WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2020 NFL MegaPod Week 6 Preview with Brent Musburger 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:11.880 Check it on Man No Down Man Thursday Morning, oct 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:19.279 The Book Podcast Megapod for week number six. Thank you 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.600 everybody for being here live from the D in downtown 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.000 downtown Las Vegas, our second to last D episode. Is 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.080 that what we're talking about? Mikey pen Ultimate? I think 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:38.080 that's right, pen Ultimate, he brend appreciates good English. Pen ultimate, Uh, 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:39.720 the second to last for those who didn't go to 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.040 private school like Mikey. That's Mike Palm, the conciliary at 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.840 UH at Circus Sports, obviously the vice president of Operations 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.320 and Circuits Sports, UH and UH Todd Wishnev Staple in 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.880 his mom's addict somewhere in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. A cork addict, Right, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.520 we've a stabled not cork. I don't know why you 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.920 guys keep saying that, but okay, what's cork? Uh wood Ingles. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.440 This is a true honor UH to have on the 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.399 show today, a true legend, and he has has been 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.800 kind enough to to do a one on one podcast 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.920 with me in the early days of East. But this 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.000 is the first time he has ever been on the megapod. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.640 It's really the first time I've asked, the first time 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.959 I've had the nerve task, but he's very kind to 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.800 do so. You know him from so many sports, the 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.000 NFL today in one era, NBA basketball, college football at ABC, 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.200 and of course, the the founder of the Vega Stats 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.080 and Information Network, the great Brent Mussburger. Good morning to you, Brent, 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.920 Good morning, Good morning guys. Pleasure, pleasure to be with you. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.360 First of all, let me congratulate Mike Palm. We're going 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.959 to add a note her Dame legend Amy Coney Barrett 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.560 to the Supreme Court. Uh, Mike, I know she was 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.919 a great, great professor at the school there in South Bend, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.280 and it's a pleasure to have her coming on board. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:58.080 My friend Grant, we're so happy. It's it's such a 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.800 measure of pride for us. And I had it in 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.600 my notes. I wanted to mention it in the open 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.440 when Gail came to me, and you you beat me 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.800 to it. But now maybe Notre Dame the terrific law 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.600 school will be considered in the elite ranks of the 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.920 ivy League who supplies all the Supreme Court? Justice Todd 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.360 is this where Todd is this where I take a 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.440 phone call from Merrick Garland or should I not take 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.760 that call? Well, you don't do that because fairness is 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:27.040 not is not part of the situation. Just just oh wait, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.080 what kind of show is this? Uh? Uh? All right, 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:31.840 So here's how this works, as you all know, three 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.960 best bets from everybody. I will do it in around 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.919 the horn fashion, either sides or totals. Then we'll do uh. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.560 We would typically start with Thursday night football thoughts, but 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.320 we don't have Thursday night football because the Kansas City 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.119 Buffalo game got delayed because the Buffalo Tennessee game got 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.680 delayed because of COVID outbreak on the Titans didn't seem 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.760 to bother the Titans the other night. So we will 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.560 will do the best bets, will do the teaser of 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.840 the week, survivor for me and Todd, and then the 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.040 final two questions. Let us begin with our esteemed guests, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.080 Mr Musk, Burger, Brent Sider, total, your single best bet 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.480 of the week, and your reasons why, sir. I'm gonna 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.480 go right to your Thursday night postponement. I like the 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.800 Kansas City Chiefs. Ordinarily I would be aware of the hook. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.919 I've seen it at three and a half around town. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:20.400 But Buffalo coming off a short week and their poorest 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.600 performance of the season when they were destroyed by the 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.920 Tennessee Titans on Tuesday night. But there's a bigger, longgoing 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.359 issue with the Bills, and that's the injury in their 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.440 secondary Tridavias White did not play in that game Tuesday night. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.360 There is no chance that they can cover those wide 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.360 receivers of the Kansas City Chiefs without him back there. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.240 They did sign the veteran Josh Normal before the season started, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.680 but there was he couldn't handle a j Brown. Good 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.720 luck with Tyreek Hill and the rest of those White receivers. Also, 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.720 I think the Chiefs were perhaps just peeking past the Raiders. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.840 They have dominated this over the last two seasons. This 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.080 was the first Glendon John Bruton has against them since 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.720 you returned. But if you take a look at what 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.360 the Chiefs did at Baltimore, they had been taken to 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.680 overtime by the Chargers prevailing and then they just blew 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.560 out Baltimore on that Monday night or twenty, I think 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.640 the same thing could happen here in this game. Josh 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.400 Allen reverted to some of the mistakes he's made in 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.240 the past. You can forgive him his first interception, but 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.000 not the second one. They sealed the deal. Let me 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.039 have the Chiefs and I'll give the three and a half, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.200 So be it Chiefs minus three and a half from 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.599 Brent to start things off. That is the first of 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:42.279 a Monday night doubleheader five pm Eastern, two pm Pacific start. Uh. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.479 Just to make that clear, because a lot of people 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.640 are gonna sort of sleep walk their way through the 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.240 start of that game. If you don't know that, and 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.800 go write it down. Kansas City at Buffalo on the 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.240 Chiefs couldn't agree more about Josh Allen first pick, not 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.839 his fault. Second pick, good lord, just a complete underthrow 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.800 to Malcolm Butler in that ballgame which the Titans and 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.080 up winning big time with four short drives, two of 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.200 those from those two interceptions. Mikey your first bet. I'm 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.599 gonna go back to where I've been going the last 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.960 three weeks, and because it's been successful, I'm gonna fade 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.719 the Dallas Cowboys. I'm gonna go to the other Monday 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.200 night game and I'm gonna lay a point and a 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.880 half with the Arizona Cardinals. Is that the consensus? I 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.400 saw a lot of one and a half too. If 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.120 it's two. It's two, Todd, what do you say? I think? 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.000 You know what. I usually don't like to go on 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.360 Mike Palm side, Gil and I like you because you're 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.880 always up on the numbers and have it all together. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.599 But I see enough one and a half that we 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.599 can give it to poor Mike. And you know, you know, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.960 he's in a big mood because of Notre Dame and everything. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.839 So given the one and a half is, are the 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.920 Cowboys a better team with the beige water pistol than 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.760 they were with dak I don't know. The number is 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.600 almost reflective instead of read well, he's yeah, he's not 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.039 the red rifle, he's the beige water pistol. I mean, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.200 I mean he I mean, you know, for most of 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.600 his career, Matt Ryan was just Andy Dalton playing in 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.640 a dome. I mean, come on, let's let's be honest 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.360 about it. He's going to become a game manager here. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.760 But they still have this god awful defense. What's uh, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.919 what's the jack rabbit gonna do back the road runner? 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.479 I mean he's there gonna run all over him. I 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.120 think that I take Arizona puts up forty in this game. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.679 Brent and this new NFL where the score is just sore. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.440 I don't see Dallas staying within a touchdown here. I 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.000 was happy to take points against him in the last 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.640 two games. I'll be happy to lay a point and 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.120 a half year with a better team. Arizona is a 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.479 better team. I think if this game was played on 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.920 a neutral field, Arizonas, it should be a four and 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.279 a half or five point favorite. I don't know that 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.120 that that home field is worth three and a half 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.200 or four points anymore with the sparse crowds, and I 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.720 just can't trust this Dallas defense. So once again, top 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.040 pick Cardinals minus one and a half, Cardinals minus one 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.600 and a half. We give him the one and a 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.640 half from Mike Palm Toddy what you got. By the way, 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.200 some people were complaining that we we don't talk about 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.000 how we're doing over the season. Yes, please, I don't 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.240 mind it, Toddy. Mikey Is is red hot with his 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.200 three and oh last week. He moves to nine five 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.479 and one on the picks. Gilly with a huge week, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.480 moves from three eight and one all the way up 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.600 to five nine and one, which is two and one 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.320 with his Miami also outright. He deserves more credit for that. Yeah, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:20.600 but can we talk about sorry, maybe we'll talk about 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.320 how you don't get paid on bets in a month. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.880 I had a terrible one in two weeks to fall 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.160 to six and nine. But that being said, all three 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.680 of us are four and one with our teasers, some 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.440 of us getting more lucky than others, including a man 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.440 from Iowa who had a point nine four zero zero 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.679 zero zero chancel wining that game on fourth and inches 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.160 and somehow the Minnesota Vikings gave it to Seattle and 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.160 he somehow pulled out his teaser. So Mikey also moves 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.320 to four and one along with me and Gil on 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.680 the teasers. That is the recap that people were asking for. Hey, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.800 how about the survivor you and Gil? You on this 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.360 show and Gil in real life still still alive and 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.160 survivor love? How many? How many elect that we are 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.640 still Gil is alive? In his second usage of um 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.680 survivor was he had Arizona last week and I had 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.880 New Orleans and also was fortunate to survive. But as 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.320 we said before, Hashem will have me winning this year 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.640 and getting cash zero like Gil and Sham Brent. Just 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.200 so you know, is the Hebrew for the name, which 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.280 is the literal translation. What it really means an Orthodox 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.200 Judaism is God. That's who Todd is referred to. Grant, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:33.240 I know a little too much about religion. Listen, my 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.960 favorite word. My favorite word was always schmuck. You know 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:42.040 what I mean. By the way, the last time I 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.480 probably hit all my opinion, because the last time I 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.079 saw Brent, I remember it specifically was the day Navy, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.160 on fourth and five from the forty five yard line 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.480 late last season, decided to run a halfback pass down 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.440 to the two yard line, and because of that, I 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.839 hit a huge middle in that game. And I remember go. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.200 I was going up to the Visa like next to 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.800 the Visa studio in my living room at the South Point, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.560 and Brent was there. I was talking to a bunch 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.120 of people around there, and I was like, I can't 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.319 believe me ran a half back past like fourth and 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:16.640 five was the greatest thing. Brent has no recollection of that. Todd, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:22.400 actually he does remember. I do remember that. He doesn't 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.920 remember that I was paying no attention to that game. Gill. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:33.840 I had no clue, okay, and ran on fourth and 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.720 five with like less than fifteen seconds left. This guy 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.000 throws it half. It was the greatest thing every anyway, 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.920 the incredulity is amazing. You know. The halfback passes one 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.080 of the staples of the aerial attack of a trip. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.880 They run them every game like not on fourth and 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.760 five with less than twenty second left. Okay, Todd, Todd, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.440 it's it's one thing to interrupt me. Could you not 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.520 interrupt Brent? Can we just make that agreement right here? 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.920 Could you not do that again? I was doing really well. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.840 Mikey Survivor up there, Key week and Survivor. We went 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.520 from six forty down to could have been so much more. Well, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.320 Tom got knocked out with the forty niners, right, but 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.120 but we wouldn't have had almost another hundred out that 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.120 had Seattle and then New Orleans on Monday nights. So 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.240 but we still made made big round down to around 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.800 four hundred. Uh. I really think, I really think there's 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.920 somebody asked me this, do you think how long this 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.480 will last? What week? I think that somebody people will 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.319 go undefeated? Number I asked you, what happens again? If 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.040 multiple people make it through eighteen weeks? What happens again? 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.440 So let's say four people go eighteen and oh, Derek 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.640 adds a million and they split it. Yeah, correct to 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.959 thank you one point three nine million in the pool, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.679 so it goes to two point three nine million, and 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.040 four people would split that, so almost six hundred thousand each. Mike, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.720 I had to say it again because Gil is not 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.599 good with sports book rules. I don't know if you 0:10:53.800 --> 0:11:00.360 if you yes, sir Gil, this is this is very 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:05.479 this is very painful conversation for me. Full disclosure, Full disclosure. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.320 I went down. I went down to the d and 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.319 I dropped the grand and I got in the Survivor 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.040 and I studied hard on Thanksgiving and I took Derek 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.040 and Mike's advice. I have to say, the Dallas Cowboys. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.840 So where am I going to go? In week one? 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.480 There is no way the Indianapolis Colts are gonna lose 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.120 in Jacksonville. We all know. We all know what happened 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.040 to me in week one. It's just the words Survivor 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.400 causes heartburn, you know what I mean. Well, I'm no 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.800 better than you. I had Indianapolis too, but I just 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.560 had two entries. So that's that's the only thing I 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.760 had over you were smarter. Brett. Mike and Gil both 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.640 lost lost their Survivor picks in the first week. I 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.480 was the only one who survived, So you're not the 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.320 only one who went down with the indie. But are 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:00.320 you still going? Are you still? Are you still? I 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.439 have five picks going, And since I'm not in any contests, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.240 That's what I was saying before is God hates me 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.840 so much that this year I will pick every single 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.960 survivor pick correct. But because I'm not in a contest, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.720 I will not cash the money. That's like the ultimate 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.280 sticking to me by God. Brett, I told him to 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.480 get in, but he's too cheap to use the proxy 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.199 okay in Pittsburgh. But he won't. He won't. He won't 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.040 come up with the he won't come up with the 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.280 fifty bucks for the proxy for the survivor entry. Todd, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:35.840 what's your best bet? Okay? My best bet is by 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.280 the way, I'm gonna be with Mikey on that Arizona later. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.000 But my I'm not going to use that as my 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.440 best bet because Mike already used that, So I'm going 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:48.600 to use the Carolina Panthers one and a half. Is 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.199 that what you have? One and a half or one 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:55.000 one one? I'll take even better Carolina minus one. And 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.360 here's why I really like what's happening with this Carolina 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.160 football team. They're showing a professionalism with Teddy two gloves. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.680 They don't make mistakes. They just play it real solid. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.600 They don't try to do anything flashy. Just move me 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.520 the football down the field, play some good defense. And 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.200 I like this Carolina football team. I think they're under 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.880 the radar. People don't really realize they're a decent football team. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.640 The Chicago Bears, on the other hand, are a the 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.440 gazy and they are the most ridiculous four and one 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.640 I've ever seen. First of all, they didn't even deserve 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.320 that game last week. I can give you multiple reasons why, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.920 but one of the biggest reasons was that roughing the 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:40.160 passer inside yard horndous. And then people are telling, well, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.320 but but they still stopped them on the drive later 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.199 at the forty I don't care. Because of that, that 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.960 flipped the field and then when they punted to Tampa 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.679 and Tampa couldn't make it, it gave the Bears a 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.400 chance to get the field goal to win the game. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.400 And of course Tom Brady, for the first time in 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.720 his life, forgets what down it is that's my luck. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.800 But whatever. Anyways, the point is the Bears are shagazy. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.520 They are not for in one. Folks who remember the 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.160 Detroit game, the guy dropped the ball in the end 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:13.040 zone wide open guilt me. Even you are Mike Palm, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.600 who are not as athletic, could have caught that pass. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.600 The Bears do not deserve to be for fun. I 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.800 don't understand why this line is only at minus one. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.240 At first, I was like, somebody injured? What's going on here? 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:30.080 Give me the professional Carolina Panthers and Teddy too well, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.000 at the risk of sounding boring, that's my number one 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.080 picks my number two. All right, well we're getting to 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.720 let me just let me just add to the Chicago thing. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.720 Four and one. Biggest paper tiger at four and one 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.360 there ever has been. What Todd is referring to is 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.480 Mitch Drabinsky's unbelievable fourth quarter comeback against the Lions in 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.520 Week one. It was a pass to DeAndre Swift that 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.960 he just dropped that could have beaten the Bears. Even 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.200 after that remarkable comeback, then the Giants had the all 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.840 in their hands. Down four final drive of the game 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.480 could have taken out the Bears. If it weren't for 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.360 the ineptitude of Daniel Jones in that offense, then the 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.320 percent win probability for the Atlanta Falcons one percent win 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:18.480 probability for the Bears. Nick Foles comes in and beats 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.240 the Falcons. Shouldn't have won that game, but miraculously they did. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.400 Then they lose to the Colts. Well, one second, they 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.600 did deserve the Atlanta game. We know Atlanta loves to 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.400 give up leading, Okay, but they you know, you know 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.200 what I'm saying, one percent win probability, you you're probably 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.160 not gonna win that hundred times. That's what that means. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.840 They lose to the Colts and then Tampa Bay. Just 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.040 to to flush out what you were saying, on that 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:43.080 final drive, not only the uh, the very shaky flag 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.359 on the head to head to the quarterback to Nick Foles, 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.520 but also an uncatchable pass. And I'm curious what Brent 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.320 thinks about this. I am of the mind now that 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.160 if you're never going to call uncatchable, just expunge it 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.320 from the rule books already, because there was clearly uncatchable 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.320 pass that's got flagged for a p I on that 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.480 draft on that drive. Rather and Chicago did end up 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.000 kicking a field goal. By the way, last thing about that, 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.520 Matt Naggie on a in a situation, I'll get the 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.960 exact situation right on this. They the uh, the Bucks 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.880 had one time out left in there at their disposal. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.520 Matt Naggie and the Bears could have bled that clock 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.360 out and had Cairo Santo's kick a game go ahead 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.000 field goal with very little time left on the clock. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.120 Instead a pass play, an incomplete pass that stop the clock. Yeah, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.600 they got the field goal, but they gave Tom Brady 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.520 more than a minute to go down the field. Now 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.160 he failed to do so, But how there four and 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.880 one is the miracle of all miracles. Brent. Your thoughts 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.840 on the uncatchable, Well, I I don't disagree with you. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.280 If they if they wish to uh, if they wish 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.000 to change the rule uh specifically in that game. The 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.320 one thing, the one thing that you all are overlooking 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.920 just a little bit. And I'm not a defender of 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.880 the bearer's record or by any means, but that is 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.520 a very good defense. And I think Teddy Bridgewater is 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.639 the most underrated quarterback in the in the NFL. I 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.520 think what he did last year, replacing Drew Brees and 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.320 leading them to five straight wins was unbelievable. One of 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.400 them was up in the Northwest, up and up in Seattle. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.800 I think Matt Rule will eventually put the put the 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.320 show on the road in in Carolina, and they've had 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.119 a very good run against Chargers Arizona Atlanta here with 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.600 this windstreak. But I don't think the Panthers um have 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.520 a very good defense as of yet. Okay, now Matt 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.840 Rule and the staff, I think Joe Brady has a 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.160 chance as the offensive coordinator to become a head coach 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.159 somewhere they in the NFL, because I would expect that 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.760 we're going to have about five six openings when this 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.840 when this season ends, I don't mind putting down the 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.280 Bears overall. Certainly the dropped touchdown passing the end zone 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.399 stands out for all of us, but I would be 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.320 a little bit careful. Uh, this is a big time 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.439 defense and um Teddy Bridgewater is going to have some 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.480 problems moving the ball against that everybody else has, so 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.760 there's no reason to think that they won't show up. 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:04.080 On some cautionary note from Brent about about all the 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.520 things he said Chicago's defense being good. Caroline is uh 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:12.160 warts as well. You Mike, hold on Mike because it's 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.840 Mike's number two pick. It's my number two. First of all, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.960 Todd must have been watching No Hyperbolee. This was my 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:22.080 number three. Was the roughing the passer call? You know, 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.960 Alex Kemp, Brent, you might have known his dad's stand 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.359 was an NFL official. Alex Kemp, he's becoming like Joe West. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.560 The whole show is about him every week. He disqualified 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.879 Jamie Collins in week one when he was trying to 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.200 show him about the lower in the head. And now 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.600 this big call, I mean a shoulder to shoulder content. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.639 He's looking right at it. His crew is getting like 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.480 Corinti's crew. They never get together to the to the 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.480 point about uncatchable. There's three other officials to see that 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.800 balls uncatchable. They have to get together when there's an 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.040 obvious call. It's just like Brent. If there's a grounding call, 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.679 they all get together to make sure there was no 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.520 receiver in the area. He was out there in the 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.240 tackle box. And they don't do that. These crews get bad. Uh. Yeah, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.920 it's my number two pick. There's no team I've been 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.400 more impressed with as the season has going on in Carolina. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.560 I think they've improved. Brent, I was wondering about your 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.840 feelings on Matt Rule and and how do you think 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:16.159 he will fare in the NFL? Uh, Mike, I think 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.639 he's gonna do very very well. Uh, you know, turning 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.959 around college programs. Let's let's look at Nick Saban had 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.800 a lot of things going for him at Alabama. I'm 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.120 not taking anything away from coach say that he did 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.919 a fabulous job. But when you go to the Temple 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.040 and then moved down to Baylor where they've been decimated 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.960 by the scandal down there, and you turn both those 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.040 programs into winners, you absolutely know how to lead in 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.720 this case young men, and I think it will carry over. 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:45.679 Let us not forget that he spent a year as 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.280 an offensive line coach with the Giants. He's been in 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.760 the National Football League. I have got enormous respect for 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.000 Matt Rule, and there is no doubt in my mind 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.840 that he will turn the program around in Carolina. But 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.040 I would just warn everybody that that is still a 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:05.280 team that is not deep in experienced talent going forward, 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.840 and they're gonna come up against it, uh sometime, and 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.440 he won't be able to pull it out until he 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.800 get some better players. They obviously Davis has done a 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.120 great job for him as a running back. McCaffrey, their 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.679 best player still on the sideline went to the I 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.640 R And that just shows you how good this coaching 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.000 staff is going to be going forward. I've got I've 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.600 got enormous respect and and I don't have a problem 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.480 with anybody picking Carolina this week, but I just want 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.320 to remind everybody beware of that Bear defense. Okay, it 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.520 can still flat out play all right, And Indianapolis had 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.560 a hit and hustle uh in that game. I think 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.400 they scored nineteen points in that in that win. And 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:49.480 even with Philip Rivers problems throwing the ball downfield, that's 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.240 still a pretty good football team and in they so UM. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.199 I don't have a problem with anybody picking Carolina, but 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.600 I wouldn't put the Bears completely down because of that defense, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.400 if you know what I mean. Brent, your second best 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.959