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Speaker 3: Lava for Good and Stand Together in Music Present The

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Speaker 3: War on Drugs Podcast Season two. This season, we're diving

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Speaker 3: deeper into the real stories behind the War on Drugs.

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Speaker 3: It's impact, it's failures, and the people offering a better

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Speaker 3: path forward. Today on the show, rapper, songwriter, storyteller, member

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Speaker 3: with Lil Wayne, Buster Rhymes, Eminem and Snoop Dogg, and

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Speaker 3: modern cannabis impresario Benny the Butcher. All Right, welcome to

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Speaker 3: another addition of season two of The War on Drugs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and again this is the season we're talking to people,

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Speaker 3: real people, talking about some of the problems that we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very well, one of the best to do it, man,

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Speaker 4: Benny the Butcher.

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Speaker 3: We got him right, here on the world drugs and

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Speaker 3: I think you said it's kind of Rick James and

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Speaker 4: Community, that's you know, that's the click and Benny Bennie

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Speaker 4: great meeting him, solid dude. Man, I didn't realize he's

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Speaker 3: Was that was amazing. I was pretty excited that we

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Speaker 3: Talk about even then. We just dragged your ass from

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Speaker 3: No, but Benny was amazing. I'm you know, I'm thirty seven,

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Speaker 3: I think you'll if you haven't listened to music.

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Speaker 4: He's got that gritty feel that nineties hip hop they

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Speaker 4: And I think people get hyper focused on the mainstream stuff.

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Speaker 4: the war on drugs, it's no place better than Bennie

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Speaker 4: He listen to his music, not only will he you know,

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Speaker 4: Broke that down perfectly, and I don't think I've look

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Speaker 4: don't get your medical advice from a podcast. Anything we

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Speaker 4: Got it, man, We got Benny the Butcher right now

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Speaker 4: Yes, Buffalo's finest. Let's jump in, man, because I think

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Speaker 2: I was a guy who got there, who got there, really,

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Speaker 2: It's like, man, growing up a lot of times we

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Speaker 3: Exactly, you know.

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Speaker 2: Coming from that neighborhood had an influence on us. You know,

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Speaker 3: Here we talk about like drugs were the thing that

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Speaker 3: robbery or what are you gonna do? War on what drugs?

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Speaker 3: That's physical, it's money. It's going across state lines, and

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Speaker 2: Yesterday in you know, I got a weed charge down here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I got a lawsuit going on with Eric

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Speaker 4: So got with him. He told me they doing this lawsuit.

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Speaker 4: The lawyers did research. They found out they call it

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Speaker 4: Months from when air got stopped and when I got stopped.

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Speaker 2: and I wanted to bring my weed.

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00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was legal from where I.

440
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,200
Speaker 2: Was leaving at When I layed, I'm like, oh shit,

441
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 2: that's in a bag, you know what I'm saying. And

442
00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 2: they locked me up for that shit, right, So me,

443
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,440
Speaker 2: I just attested it to that, you know what I'm saying.

444
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 2: Every time I go they pulled me over like yo, less,

445
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 2: we got to go through your bags, you know what

446
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Or start staying over here because I get

447
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 2: that all the time.

448
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 1: Even when I go through Claire.

449
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 2: You go through clear this like random random idea Like

450
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 2: how I always get random, I like all the time.

451
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: You fee what I'm saying.

452
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure this wasn't that random.

453
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 2: You're like, something's changed, Something's changed, you know what I'm saying.

454
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 4: But you know, in New York getting the legalization of weed,

455
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 4: how's that affected Buffalo? Has it made any you see

456
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 4: any positive changes? You see anybody like us? You see

457
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,680
Speaker 4: any black people that are allowed, you know, to get

458
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,879
Speaker 4: the license or however they're going about.

459
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 2: It one hundred percent because it's like this in New

460
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 2: York State, people who who had drug felonies, those was

461
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 2: the first people eligible to open up dispensaries.

462
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I'm saying. They did that.

463
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: So like a couple of years ago, people was hitting

464
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,360
Speaker 2: my phone, you know what I'm saying, like Yo, I'm like, damn,

465
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 2: I you know, I got feeling like yo, you want

466
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 2: to dispensary?

467
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: Man?

468
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: They shooting it at us first. So from that time

469
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 2: to this one, you got two things. You got the

470
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 2: we business, right, you got the cannabis industry. The cannabis industry.

471
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 2: The cannabis industry happens in dispensaries, is on farm. You

472
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, maybe after six pm when those

473
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: clo when those dispensary lights go off and other lights

474
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 2: come on, you know, it's still weed being sold in

475
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 2: like America everywhere that's not through dispensaries. Because I'm gonna

476
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 2: say the quality, and I'm gonna say the access. You know,

477
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 2: some people don't. Some people don't. They don't got access

478
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 2: to to go to dispensaries. It's a drug still now.

479
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: And I'm learning too. I'm learning how to shop for

480
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: marijuana dispensaries. You gotta learn, you know what I'm saying.

481
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: You gotta get familiar with the brands and everything like that.

482
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 2: But man, it definitely changed so much. And I probably

483
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 2: know two or three guys who got dispensaries, and I

484
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 2: want to see two or three hundred, you know what

485
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and around the nation two or three thousand,

486
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 2: two or three million, because you know, they threw it's.

487
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: A bone, you feel me. They threw it's a bone,

488
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: and it could work.

489
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: I see it working for a lot of people, you

490
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And.

491
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 1: So I do feel like it be changed for the good.

492
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: And how much you know, cannabis is like the kind

493
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 3: of gateway into a lot of people, like the government

494
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: to be able to intruse like the smell smelled, the

495
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 3: odor of marijuana coming from the car to sarch the car,

496
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: those types of things, and so even just getting it,

497
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: you know, determinalized and legalized, to be able to remove

498
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: those types of like kind of arrows in the quiver

499
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: from government to kind of in true in your life,

500
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: is is a good stuff for it. And obviously from

501
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: the commercial side, so you're in the cannabis business.

502
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: The cannabis industry, industry, industry, and so it's I'd be curious, uh,

503
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: kind of talk about what you've seen just as a

504
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: small you know, small business owner, would have been some

505
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: of the impediments that you've seen.

506
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: I know we've talked seen a lot about like how

507
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: there's like kind of big cannabis kind of coming in

508
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: and taking over. Seeing we have similar stuff with like alcohol,

509
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: where there's like you think there's all these brands, but

510
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: there's really like four huge mega brands owns like every

511
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: drink you've ever had. Some times they get the first

512
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: foot forward in a lot of states because they write

513
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: the laws if it goes to a ballot. I know

514
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: we've seen that in a lot of places, so talked

515
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: about that, like, what are some of the things that

516
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: you've seen that have been great, like kind of improving

517
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: in the cannabis industry. What has been impediments Still, I'm

518
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 3: just curious to kind of hear about all that.

519
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like the cannabis industry, Like when I go

520
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: to dispensaries and I see uh, you know, middle class

521
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: people walking the dispensaries and they buy they weed and

522
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: shit not like that, you know what I mean, that

523
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: shows growth in the industry. But that's what you which

524
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: is what you want to know. It's like it's certain

525
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: neighborhoods that the dispensary is never going to effect. You

526
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's like it's like it's it's

527
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: it's regular neighborhood dudes who got them under a foothold.

528
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: You you know what I'm saying.

529
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: Friend loyalty.

530
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: But when when the goal the goal is because like

531
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: I said, I want to see I want to see

532
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: more entrepreneurs do it the right way.

533
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: So so the goal is afford to happen.

534
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: And when it do happen, like we said, it's only

535
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: like a few big companies hopefully they reach out, you

536
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, not saying that, not saying that

537
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: like one of the top company is gonna call a

538
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: trapper or pull up in the hood, but it's like

539
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: hopefully those opportunities through through educating ourselves and learning more

540
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: on about it, you know what I'm saying, with those

541
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: guys who those guys who trapping, who are doing shit,

542
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: through educating themselves, learning more about learning more about that shit,

543
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: and building their team up, those more opportunities because guess what,

544
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe it will kind of like turn into

545
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: a McDonald's type of thing, you feel what I'm saying,

546
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: where the neighborhood is eating off of it, because like

547
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: just like McDonald's when you're going I'm from the hood.

548
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: When you're going McDonald's, it's like everybody in the hood

549
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: working that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So maybe

550
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: it would be a thing where it's really giving back

551
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: to the community where people work there, you understand, instead

552
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: of just buying weed there, you actually work there, and

553
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: it's three of them to this neighborhood. That's the ultimate goal,

554
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: because it's a weed trap in every hoood, you know

555
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it really can turn into a

556
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: thing like that, you know what I'm saying. And I think,

557
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: like that's years years down the line, though. I think

558
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because it's gonna take. It's

559
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 2: gonna take two different sides how it did with the government.

560
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, the government, the weed business,

561
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: cannabis industry.

562
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying. Let me speak on this too.

563
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't feel like the the cannabis industry affects the

564
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: weed business. It's two different things. You feel what I'm saying.

565
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, you know, it's it's seafood to McDonald's. Man,

566
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: when you want seafood, you're going you know what I'm saying.

567
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: You don't got to taste for them, both of them motherfuckers.

568
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: At the same time. You feel what I'm saying. You know, Okay,

569
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: the difference between the cannabis industry and the weed business

570
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: is this first and foremost.

571
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the with the product.

572
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, because federally, you can't go

573
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 2: state the state with right, Yeah, the state has to

574
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: grow the flower. You know, a lot of states is not.

575
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: You know, they don't got top notch growers. Like everybody

576
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: don't got them green thumbs like that. Some people grow

577
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: up better. Like I said, it ain't like you can

578
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: have legally. Ain't like you can have this place supplying everything.

579
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: So you know, what's that a one ship and then

580
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: the second is the uh it's where you're getting it from, right,

581
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: you know? We know like you got to maybe call

582
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: somebody with the phone. Old school called somebody with the

583
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: phone and they pull up on you.

584
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

585
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: But now the cannabis industry helped the weed business because

586
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: a lot of these dudes got traps and you walk

587
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: in them and it looked just like a dispensary, and

588
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: you don't you can't, you can't tell the difference.

589
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: But you're really in a legal weed and everything.

590
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how it is in New York

591
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: State or in other places where weed as legal is at,

592
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure they can't. The police can't put

593
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 2: up like crazy efforts to shut this building down.

594
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: It's more regulators and stuff. There's not like criminal penalties

595
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: as Yeah, as.

596
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: Much where you where the product, definitely the product.

597
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: Like I said, sometimes the weed business got better product

598
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: than the cannabis industry, and then like the location where

599
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: you get it from, because maybe ten years from now,

600
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: if a middle class person wanted to go get their

601
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: weed and shit, they had to still go to the

602
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: hood or call their dealer, if whoever he was.

603
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

604
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: You used to have to like almost be in a

605
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: sketchy situation to get it. Now it's not like that.

606
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: You could walk in even in a weed business. You

607
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: could walk up some shit like, man, this is a

608
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: nice dispensary. It's illegal.

609
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Fuckers got eight k's back in the back, you know

610
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

611
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: But people willn't go fully legit when they got all

612
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 2: the abilities to do. They invest in money in and

613
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: putting it together or you know what I'm saying, and

614
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: they got that ship rocking and rolling already. Man, the

615
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: guy who runs that is nowhere around it, right, you

616
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And the people who are in there,

617
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: by the time the police stop hearing and do what

618
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna do and say what they're gonna say, we

619
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: made a lot of money and it's gonna be a

620
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: slap on the risk by the time of come and

621
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: people did this. People do this ship when it's dangerous.

622
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: Let alone a slap on a risk. People do this

623
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: ship when they making a tiny bit of money and

624
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: gonna get life. Let alone, you're making a bunch of

625
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: money and police don't give a fuck, right, So it's like,

626
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: why you know what I'm saying. But like I said,

627
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: through educating them them fellas more, I can say if

628
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: them fellas was a little bit educated, a little bit more,

629
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure they know they shit, they switch

630
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: it up because because why he even had that looming

631
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: over your head.

632
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: Right, And the more it comes down in the open,

633
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: it's well, why wouldn't I do this?

634
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: And one thing I think is the government not gonna

635
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: stand for that because everybody got people paying taxes on it.

636
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Now. Because when I open up.

637
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: When I open up the Butcher's dispensaries and I open

638
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: up ten in the neighborhood, I don't want motherfuckers just

639
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

640
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: You don't see yeah liquor stores there, right.

641
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to get there.

642
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: Man, It's gonna get so refined in the next ten

643
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: ten years that it'll be something totally different than what

644
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: it is today.

645
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, but now that you said it,

646
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: we business cannabis industry. I lived out in LA for

647
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: about three years. I would even see it out there,

648
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: because of course you got the cookie store, you got

649
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: the mid man, you got the store to do it right,

650
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: and then you got stores where you can't have your

651
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: phone out. You know what I'm saying exactly, You're like,

652
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: hold on, are y'all running power off a generator in

653
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: this bitch? Sh Yeah? And so you see and so

654
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: like that makes perfect sense. And I know I knew

655
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: what was going on, but I never made that distinction

656
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: and separation like that.

657
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: That's how it go ooh, it's a big fucking difference

658
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: between the cannabis industry and the weed business. Because I

659
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: want people to know the difference. And I'm thinking about

660
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: we're talking. Another thing is it's the players in the game.

661
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. They all hustlers. They just

662
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: hustlers from different aspects of life. They all hustlers.

663
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Man.

664
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: I was in Buffalo one day. I was at a rooftop.

665
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: I lived in this name I lived, I lived in

666
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: this building. We're going away to the rooftop. I was

667
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: coming in a building I've seen tall motherfucker with jewlry

668
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: and ship your outfit on him, and no, this is Buffalo.

669
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Somebody fucking come here. If it ain't me, I'm like,

670
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy. You know what I'm saying.

671
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: Me and my nigga, right, you know what I'm saying.

672
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: But he looked familiar though, so he came came and

673
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: spoke to me. He came like, Yo, I fuck with

674
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: your ship. So I'm not realizing it's James Johnson play ball,

675
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh shit,

676
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, think a man, like what the fuck are

677
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: you doing here? And he's here with an investment group

678
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: of people. And they opened up a dispensary in Buffalo,

679
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, coming to look at the land.

680
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: And they asked me up there. It's like, Yo, we

681
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: need somebody with skinning the gang who from here, So

682
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: be a partner and don't got to give no money

683
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: or know nothing.

684
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean,

685
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: shout out my boys.

686
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's a few of them.

687
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: And a that was that was to what you were saying.

688
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: What I was saying. The players of the game is different.

689
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: Those are cannabis industry guys who made their money elsewhere

690
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: who are looking to make investments.

691
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying.

692
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: Any other investments, Yeah, they won't return all exactly.

693
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: So those are the players.

694
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: And then you know you got the you know, you

695
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: got the street guys stay the same way they made

696
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: their money. They're trying to get the heat off of them.

697
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, They're trying to go legal.

698
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: But to what you were saying, it's like, open up

699
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: your network, you know what I'm saying. You know, James

700
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: JJ with his people and they and they kicking it

701
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: with me about you know what I'm saying, These guys

702
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: who I wouldn't have met on a regular basis.

703
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: So open up your fucking network. That's important thing.

704
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: And opening people that made it in other places that

705
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: you would never have even thought about in your entire life.

706
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like me, what I'm

707
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: what I'm what I'm doing is I got the I

708
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: got my my brand, and I'm putting the brand in stores.

709
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, like I said, it's so premature right now.

710
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: It came a long way from where it was. But

711
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, you know, dudes is getting all type

712
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: of ideas of how they're gonna do this and work together.

713
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the wills is turning with these guys

714
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: where they're trying to figure out how we're going to

715
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: take this to the next level you feel, I'm saying,

716
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: and the consumption is the next is that's the next thing.

717
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: But your answerment, I really don't know. But the guys

718
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: who I meet, they are smart dudes who do that ship.

719
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: They are smart dudes. They come from they come from

720
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: a lifestyle where they made money already, or they made

721
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: money from the game, you know what I'm saying, or

722
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: they just super ambitious and they gonna figure it out.

723
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: You know what hustlers say, if you can make it,

724
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: you can make it again.

725
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Hunt saying, that's that's what that's about. That's what it's about.

726
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: One of the things we know where some of the

727
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: investments are not coming because you know, cannabis industry is

728
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: still treated so differently than so many other industries you

729
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: alluse to earlier, Like you know, if you you have

730
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: to grow in your state, you can't ship it across states.

731
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: You can't ship it internationally. There's limits on what types

732
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: of products you can have, the type of financial institutions.

733
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of it's still a lot

734
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: of big cash only business where you're carrying around lots

735
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: of cash, so you're not actually in the regular market,

736
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: and that still spooks people a lot. And actually, really,

737
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: you know, if we want to have you know, when

738
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: you're talking about two three million, you know, cannabis iners

739
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: coming out there, obviously those are the limits because then

740
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: your competition is only going to be domestic and only

741
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: limits how much we get to sell. And I know

742
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: that's been a big issue with where kind of the

743
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: black market starts coming in, because all these people sell

744
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: as much weed as they possibly can, and then any

745
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 3: other offload from their fields, you know, maybe you can

746
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: go over here over here, And so yeah, I'm just curious,

747
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: like do you have you seen some of those impediments

748
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: like to seeing like, okay, we could see the cannabis

749
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: industry getting to this point, but you know, being from

750
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: inside the game, like what are you seeing from that

751
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: that you see like there's impediments that like, hey, we

752
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: got to destroy these barriers and this is how we

753
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: can get to that next level, either government, private or

754
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: whatever it is.

755
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a government thing first.

756
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: I think it's a government thing first. Where the transpole

757
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: the transpole because it's some big brands right in the

758
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: WE business, some big popular brands, and if you put

759
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: that that might drive some some consumers to the dispisaries

760
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: who from the streets.

761
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, they got that ship right, We're going

762
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: over there, right.

763
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: So I think it's like definitely definitely governmental. And it's

764
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: like guys just got to integrate with the cannabis industry

765
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: and WE business. Now a lot of these guys, Man,

766
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to put nobody the fucking business out there,

767
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: but sometimes the same people.

768
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying.

769
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: It's it was like they really got to figure it

770
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: out and take this loophole and run with it. And man,

771
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm just now realizing that. It's like it's like one

772
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: day we're going to be able to be like fucking

773
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: Morgan Freeman doing the fucking joint commercial.

774
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

775
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Like when it gets to that, when the government like

776
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: let's just full all the way off, because like I said,

777
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: through through motherfucker's a bone. But when they let they

778
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: foot all the way off and then people looking at

779
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: it like yo, it's like alcohol.

780
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

781
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: Eat what I'm saying, Like once they once it fits

782
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: the agenda again, you know what I'm saying. Maybe it'll

783
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: go further, but I think it's a lot of integration.

784
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: Like I said, I believe we in the premature states

785
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: of this shit. You know what I'm saying, Cause I

786
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: remember going to I remember seeing it change over time

787
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: in California. My first time ever going to California was

788
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: like was only twenty seventeen, and I remember the prices

789
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: being low and they being high, and they being low

790
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: and being different. So even them over there, they're going

791
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: through shit. So like I said, man, we just caught

792
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: the We just caught the early stages and figs for

793
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: this whole thing right now, exactly.

794
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: Like you said, they're figuring it out legally to where

795
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: everybody get big, everybody.

796
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: It's not blurred. It's really one thing, and I think

797
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: that'll work for everybody. Know what I'm saying. There's one thing.

798
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: You know, we're taping this on election day, which.

799
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: Is crazy, and.

800
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: But it's the first time in United States history where

801
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: the two parties both the candidates have advocated for legalizations.

802
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: Start crazy change, yes, dynamic. Yeah, it feels like it's

803
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: happened in such a short period of time, at least perception.

804
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: I think so too.

805
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: I think so too, because we went like we illegal

806
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: for fucking ever. Yeah, you know what I'm saying just now,

807
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: in the past few years, you could like do this

808
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: in front of a police officer.

809
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: It's like they find some ship on you and be like,

810
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, well that this is legal now.

811
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: I mean, man, the places that that has happened has

812
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: surprised me. Man, I'm driving to do a show. Alabama

813
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: got a little bit on me. They pulled me over.

814
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: I don't even want to deal with I told him.

815
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: I said, hey, I got a little bit. I'm thinking

816
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 4: it's Alabama. I'm already here, and like, let me go ahead,

817
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: call somebody to get to buy. But he said, man,

818
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 4: dump it out and step on it and I'm gonna

819
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: let you go. And I was like, is this a trap?

820
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: Like right?

821
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: But it's definitely like that. And I've been I've been

822
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: let off too, but still with that. That's why they

823
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: need to get rid of this ship and just do

824
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: away with it, because I still have I got another

825
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: open case for weed for half a blunt. No, you know,

826
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm when I talk too much ship to the police

827
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: some time I just tell them some ship, like if

828
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: you want to do your day doing paperwork, I'm willing

829
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: to do it with you.

830
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: This ship gonna last me till the next morning. Whatever.

831
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: If you really want to throw your day away, let's go.

832
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They don't like that ship.

833
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Still roll something up, you know what I'm saying.

834
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: I had to go to court and I'm still going

835
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: to court for this shit happened like almost a year

836
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: and a half ago, and for a literal half a blunt.

837
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The weed was bullshit too.

838
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

839
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: You had I did talk to my attorney and it

840
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: was like it's going to get when I go to court.

841
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: It's going to get resolved, okay, right, But it's like it's.

842
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: Particular how many resources and harassing you. I was. I

843
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: work in like policy and things like that. So we

844
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: were looking at a situation in Tennessee actually as a

845
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: family from Alabama, going to Tennessee or vice versa cop

846
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: stop them did this like field drug test kit thing

847
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: where it's like a two dollars kit and it test

848
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: substances and then it said it was like, oh, you

849
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: have cocaine and you had like all this stuff in

850
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: your system. Took their kids away because of like cannabis,

851
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: because they had like someone had used and they did

852
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: like a follicle test and said like, you can't be

853
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: around your kids anymore. And if that sort of stuff,

854
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: it's not always just like the arrests the jail, because

855
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, you hear a lot of saying there's not

856
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: a bunch of people in prison for a joint in

857
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: their and it's like, you know what, that's right, But

858
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: it's all the other stuff that comes around with that.

859
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: It's the harassments, the criminal record that doesn't get you

860
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: a job anymore. It's all the other things that makes

861
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: you a second class citizen in our society that still

862
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: is around the cannabis industry wall it's still being legalized

863
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: and people are making millions around the country.

864
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen crazy, it's going to be more. It's

865
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: gonna end up being more conflicting then then then smooth.

866
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: So they're going to have to figure that out. There's

867
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: too much shit going on, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,

868
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: for sure when a bunch of those cases when it

869
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: when it become when people start like you know, like

870
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: raising hell about ship like that, then they're gonna come

871
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: like why not, you know what I'm saying. But that's

872
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: what I was thinking about it, like maybe it's about

873
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: to be legal everywhere because that's what they're gonna do.

874
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna fucking rake in all the money they can

875
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: because this ship when it's gone, it might be gone forever.

876
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

877
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: That's like millions of dollars, if not billions a year

878
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: that people pay through fines and bills and all types

879
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: of crazy shit, you know what I'm saying.

880
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you see that with like you know, after

881
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: like Ferston happened in that time period of the dj came

882
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: in Department of Justice and did a report about what

883
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: was going on in the in the city. Before that,

884
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: they toiled all these emails from like the city council

885
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: telling the police like hey, we need ten percent more revenue,

886
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: can you take it more? People?

887
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: So all right, man, what do you think you know this,

888
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: this whole thing needs to go. What needs to happen

889
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 4: to give Benny the Butcher's vision, because I like your vision.

890
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: If you was running for office today, I put it.

891
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 4: I vote for you, brother, vote yeah you get put

892
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: him on the red and blue folks. Yeah, but go

893
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: back to what you said in the beginning. You what

894
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: you're shown and what you're showing people exactly is don't

895
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: you're showing people all sides?

896
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate the opportunity to do this. Man,

897
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: you appreciate Drugs over are still going on, still going.

898
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming through and doing this.

899
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: Man.

900
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: Positivity on the day that is, we're gonna be very unpositive.

901
00:38:49,360 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: Watch the election like it's the super Bowl. There it is, there,

902
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: it is. Man. The story about their raid crazy.

903
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 4: Just think about what would have happened if he wasn't

904
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: able to flush that, or if he would have got

905
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: caught at that point.

906
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, or he thought the people that you know sprang

907
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: in and into this place were trying to rob them

908
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: or cause harm. Yeah, Baronna Taylor incident is a great

909
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: I mean literally, when he was describing it, I mean

910
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: the broad strokes sounded almost identical.

911
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I hope people can hear that and understand

912
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: that these types of things is not uncommon for somebody

913
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: to come and rob somebody. Well, why would she shoot back?

914
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: Why would this person have a gun? Why would It's

915
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: all it's always why did they do this? Or if

916
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: they did that, then it must be this. And I

917
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: think everybody is going to try to protect theyselves and

918
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: those no knock warrants.

919
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Man, it is dangerous for everybody involved.

920
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: It is. No, it's it's dangerous for the people. It's

921
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: dangers for the police officers. Mistakes happen, honest, mistakes happen,

922
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: you know, miss like where you get the wrong address

923
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: or again, it's.

924
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Just we've seen this happen so many times.

925
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: When you're working in an organization where you know, certain

926
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: people may come.

927
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: To your house and yes that have nothing to do

928
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: with law enforcement, yes, you know, and they'll have the

929
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: same tactical gear, just no badge.

930
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love you know, Benny coming from another time.

931
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes we're you know, we're always like, oh it's doing

932
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: loom and bad and there's always these things. But like

933
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: you could really tell, you know, even asks like oh,

934
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: the drug wars still going on because you know, in

935
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: a lot of ways, a lot of those things have

936
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: ended like that. You know, he sees as like the

937
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: real you know major, you know the things that we're

938
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: going on, and so we have made that progress, but

939
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: we still have a lot of bad thing. No knock

940
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 3: warrants are still going on all the time, all day

941
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 3: every day.

942
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 4: It still places where there's not progress, and even where

943
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: there is progress, it may just be in one small

944
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: are like we talked about with Atlanta, Like he got

945
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: arrested outside of Atlanta for having the wheel and that's

946
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 4: an Atlanta thing. If you're in Fulham County, you're good.

947
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: If you have a little bit of weed. I think

948
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: they give you up to an ounce and it's a ticket.

949
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: But you cross the county line going anywhere, you know,

950
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 4: you could be in the cab. You could be in Clayton,

951
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: you could be in Cobb. You're not going to see

952
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: a sign or anything. You just go see those lights

953
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 4: and it's going to be a different type of car

954
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: pulling you over. And now you're sitting in jail for

955
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 4: something that half a mile a mile up the road

956
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: would have been a.

957
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Ticket as rot.

958
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's crazy, this piecemeal like system that

959
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: we have, and you know, Benny getting you know, he

960
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: was telling a story like being in a legal county,

961
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: crossing over a non legal we're a legal ones over there,

962
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: and then getting busted in between and like and that

963
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: happens all the time, and so it allows for this

964
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: drug war to kind of still proliferate and you're kind

965
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: of supposed to be able to move around. I think

966
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 3: people would be shocked to know that drug possession arrests

967
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: is still by far the largest types of arrest that

968
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: happened in the United States, overwhelmingly, and the majority of

969
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: those are for cannabis related defenses. So it is even

970
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: with all the progress that we've made, it is still

971
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: the driver of the criminal joze. Even if people, you know,

972
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: the processer's allowed to say like, hey, no one's going

973
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: to prison for a joint, they might not be, but

974
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: they might be getting harassed for it. They might be

975
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: able to get their car search for it, they might

976
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: be able to have to go to jail for it

977
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: for a second. They might miss their.

978
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: They might not they might not go to prison, but

979
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: they might lose their job, which results in them losing

980
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 4: where they live, which results in them losing their kids,

981
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: which so the results can go on and on and

982
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: in so many ways that the whole war on drugs

983
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: rears its head, Like even when you try to get

984
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: out of it, you know, I mean, and we call

985
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: it the trap you're selling drugs. Even if you try

986
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: to get out of that, like Benny did, he's still

987
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: getting looked at. He's from You're the easiest target, so

988
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 4: let's harass you some more, even when you're trying to

989
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: make a transition to a better life.

990
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I mean, condition of a lot of

991
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: people's probation is keeping their job. And so so many times,

992
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: so many times someone loses their job because they've had

993
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: to sit in jail or something else has happened, and

994
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: then it just goes back in the cycle. So just

995
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: something that worth noting. You know, as we continue to

996
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: make this produc there are still a lot of you

997
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: know a lot of people still sitting in prison right

998
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: now for things that people are making millions out in

999
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: the real world. Yes, it's going to be mindful.

1000
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, when Benny was talking about everybody coming together,

1001
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: like creating a collective, and that kind of brought me

1002
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: back to the conversation we had would be.

1003
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: Really absolutely yeah, you said the same thing. So it

1004
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: is like two entrepreneurs, you know, kind of on the

1005
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: opposite side, the kind of being like, yeah, this is

1006
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: actually what we need to do and come together. So again,

1007
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: may we're just uh, we're going to go back on

1008
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: the recruitin trail, just bringing people behind us here, man, one.

1009
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: Get them together.

1010
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: And like you said, that's coast to coast, So it

1011
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: is we're feeling it on both sides. And both of

1012
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: them have their own brands exactly as far as yeah, yeah, and.

1013
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: It's felt like they were kind of saying like, oh,

1014
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: they don't really know like who's else is in the industry.

1015
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: It just feels because you're working on so much try

1016
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: to build your own stuff, like there does need almost

1017
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: be like oh yeah, we're all doing kind of the

1018
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: same thing here and dealing with the same issues. Like

1019
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: we came together. We could really show some of these

1020
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: So maybe by the time you hear this, we'll uh

1021
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: lots some more announcements.

1022
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be some stuff working. Yeah, stuff in the works.

1023
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, But again, thank you so much, Benny for real appreciate.

1024
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: It, man, I appreciate it. Took it took longer than

1025
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 4: he had to. We only had it for a little

1026
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 4: a little while, and he stayed longer with us.

1027
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think his manager was like, come on, man, yeah.

1028
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Time let's go.

1029
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: He was like, man, so everything you heard, super genuine,

1030
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: super real. Didn't have to do it, but did so

1031
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: we appreciate it, man. Yeah.

1032
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: And then uh, next week, Uh, one of literally the

1033
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: best voices you'll ever hear come out of your radio,

1034
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: Brent Smith from Shine Down and you know he has

1035
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: he talks in the interview. I'll just tease it here

1036
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 3: about like almost like a Hollywood blockbuster, you know, moment

1037
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: where he's struggling with addiction. He's about to make it

1038
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 3: and his addiction is about to bring it all down.

1039
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: And it's almost like this moment with his manager who

1040
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: comes on with us as well, and they kind of

1041
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: are like, which way are you going to go? And

1042
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: one of the most successful bands, you know, not only

1043
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: of our time but all time. So an amazing conversation

1044
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Speaker 3: with him. So with that, I'm Greg Lott. It's the

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1046
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1057
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1059
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1060
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