WEBVTT - Five Things About the 2023 U.S. Open with Geoff Shackelford

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Today I am joined by Jeff Jackelford. It is lacc

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<v Speaker 2>Us Open week. We are so excited, obviously the last

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<v Speaker 2>week in professional golf. I think it's taking a little

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<v Speaker 2>oxygen away from this US Open, but it is something

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<v Speaker 2>to really be excited about. And uh, I think one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things we learned last year with the live

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<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour drama then was that once the ball is

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<v Speaker 2>in the air on Thursday, it becomes all about the golf.

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<v Speaker 2>And this week should be spectacular. I can't wait. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of circled on my calendar for years, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we are we are really thrilled to be

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<v Speaker 2>there and be on the ground for this week's US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are doing our traditional five things about the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open with Jeff Shackelford. Jeff obviously a long list

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<v Speaker 2>of accomplishments in golf, but in particular here in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's from here and I had a hand. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a co architect on the Los Angeles Country Club

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<v Speaker 2>restoration with Gil Hans and Jim Wagner. So Jeff you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and also writes a substack about you know, major championship golf.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was a no brainer for the guests for

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<v Speaker 2>this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We are.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be on site all week at at the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open. We are. We can't wait to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a couple things housekeeping things about the fried egg

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<v Speaker 2>before we get in there. We are releasing on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>night on YouTube at eight pm Eastern five pm Pacific. A.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call it a documentary or a film.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't kind of take ourselves that seriously when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to, uh, you know, naming of things. But we

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<v Speaker 2>put together a George Thomas video is It's George Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles. It's about thirty minutes. It features Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>gil Hans and Tom Doak, all of whom have worked

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<v Speaker 2>at George Thomas Designs. Here and is a look at

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<v Speaker 2>the life of George Thomas and his accomplishments and impact

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<v Speaker 2>on golf in Los Angeles. It is. It is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really proud of what the team put together, Garrett and

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Hurdis on this project. It was. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>big undertaking and I'm really please that they we got

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<v Speaker 2>it done and it will be out on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 2>So join us. We're doing a YouTube premiere. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a chat and join us put it up on

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<v Speaker 2>the big screen. It is. It is a beautiful piece

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, footage and insight into Thomas's three famous

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<v Speaker 2>courses as well as his life and some other just

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<v Speaker 2>cool historical photos. Also, it's gonna be a big week

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<v Speaker 2>for Club TF our membership program. We have a every

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<v Speaker 2>Hole at LACC video that will be going up early

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<v Speaker 2>in the US Open week. If you're interested in joining.

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<v Speaker 2>We we do basically daily content on that on that website.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred and twenty dollars for the year. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome way to support us. It is. You can

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<v Speaker 2>join and look at it at the Frida egg dot

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<v Speaker 2>com slash membership and yeah, we get all kinds of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>early access to events when we when we launch those

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<v Speaker 2>discounts in the pro shop, but then regular content from

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<v Speaker 2>US you know, video and written. So without further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>here is Jeff Shackelford. Jeff, welcome on. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not much. I was excited to talk US Open

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<v Speaker 2>and this US Open preview. I was excited, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>finally the first tournament where things seemed to start to

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<v Speaker 2>become normal majors. Weren't this like spectacle of gathering of

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<v Speaker 2>these two parties. And here we are at this historic

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<v Speaker 2>LACC major US Open, first time they've ever hosted, and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole pre lead up will not be about the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I know it's a I've had mixed feelings about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but then as I thought about it, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>good we got this out of the way. If it

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<v Speaker 1>had leaked in mid midwe week or early week tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been even worse. So at least we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get this out of out of the system to roll out.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I mean, I mean we I yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>just have to talk about the elephant in the room though,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think I mean, it's not Yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be right to do a pod without addressing one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest stories of our time, which which one

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<v Speaker 1>is that this this this general Patton running the smash

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<v Speaker 1>GC squad.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well I was, I was thinking about looping

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<v Speaker 2>it into one of my five things here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, what's going to be the workout program

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<v Speaker 1>US Open week for Brooks and uh, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if the team is not there, if he's not on

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<v Speaker 1>team time, and and by the way, is anybody on

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<v Speaker 1>the team in the US Open besides him?

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell you that, I could tell you with

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<v Speaker 2>certainty that Chase Kopka is not in the USO.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, I'm confident there. And but I I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I I that that was the And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure people are going who didn't listen to the shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>start are are regretting it now and they will go listen.

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<v Speaker 1>But just one of the greatest stories I've ever heard, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and such a much needed tonic in this time of

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<v Speaker 1>strife and sadness and whatever and rage, rage, all the rage,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I love the rage. And it's over nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that has to do with anything of substance. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>all these people in the club of the BGA tour

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<v Speaker 1>weren't informed. But my god, I mean, if there was

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<v Speaker 1>ever a story that validated why we need team Golfox

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<v Speaker 1>ordering the team to the gym, Brooks ordering a vigorous

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<v Speaker 1>workout that rendered two of his four players unplayable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what was he thinking looking at Cocrak, thinking, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that getting him in shape overnight. That's gonna help smash,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, finally get the top ten of the uh

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<v Speaker 1>of the live whatever whatever they call the thing in DC.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't even get to know what these tournament name

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<v Speaker 1>names are, or will we. I don't know they're going

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<v Speaker 1>away as we record this. They may not be going away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's there's lots of uncertainty. Other big news, other big

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<v Speaker 2>news in golf this this this week, I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be within the calendar. If the day week

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<v Speaker 2>you released a book. Yeah, you know, you're jumping up

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<v Speaker 2>the charts. You might be the number one golf book

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<v Speaker 2>in Amazon. Golf Architecture for normal people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gone great, it's gone. I mean, there's already

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<v Speaker 1>a second printing coming. It's about to sell out the

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<v Speaker 1>first one. It's gone beautifully, so thank you to all

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<v Speaker 1>who ordered. And so far the reviews have been what

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of hope for, or even exceeding my my.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was just hoping for mild satisfaction of

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<v Speaker 1>reading it. And so I've had some cool responses of people. Well, first,

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<v Speaker 1>I love when I hear that people quickly read it

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<v Speaker 1>because it was meant to be a quick read, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people wanting to play more golf because of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the things that you kind of hope to

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<v Speaker 1>do with a book like that, and and and then

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bad review on Amazon today say it

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<v Speaker 1>was too basic and for too many it's geared to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just somebody who doesn't know anything. I'm like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best review possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to ask, is that a bad review

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<v Speaker 2>given a book title?

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<v Speaker 1>Gave it a gave it, I don't know, two three stars.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, uh, that's that was the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like we bamboozled you. That was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the idea. But I mean, I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>people who are really into architecture, I hope it will

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<v Speaker 1>open their eyes a little bit too. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely geared toward you know, probably your audience a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that person who's and we have so many

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<v Speaker 1>people now that are are intrigued by what goes into

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<v Speaker 1>a course design or the construction or things to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to look for. And so that was the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the book, was to give those people something without

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<v Speaker 1>going off the rails the way that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the rankings have. So so I'm thrilled and excited and

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to more hearing more feedback for people.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read it. I've thoroughly enjoyed it, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>I tell people this all the time, but like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons that I got into golf architecture was

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<v Speaker 2>You're writing on golf architecture as I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I, uh, you know, for somebody I get asked

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<v Speaker 2>this question all the time, what are what are things

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<v Speaker 2>I should read? You know, to get into this to

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<v Speaker 2>start to realize. I thought this was a great entry

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<v Speaker 2>point to the discourse. And in like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an easy read, a lightlift. It's not too long. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could read this and then you could go dump

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<v Speaker 2>jump into George Thomas's golf architecture in America. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you really enjoyed this, right, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not a laborious read, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you're reading you know, sometimes I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, When I'm reading golf architecture stuff, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a ten to fifteen page read and then I'm putting

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<v Speaker 2>it down because it's you know, it's like this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a textbook type stuff like this, this thing

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<v Speaker 2>you can breeze through. Uh so congratulations. I would recommend

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<v Speaker 2>everybody going and checking that out that is interested in

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<v Speaker 2>getting into architecture. That is. That is even somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>has you know, read a ton about architecture is additive it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there are there are things in there that

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<v Speaker 2>that will make you think and that's really what you

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<v Speaker 2>want from a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. I appreciate that. That's just what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear. And I'm going to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>transcribe that and blurb that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, oh you know this this fancy system we use,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I could transcribe it here.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so IV on the phone, I get, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I have means. So thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we uh, we're going to l a CC this week.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a full disclosure. I'll probably say this in the intro.

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<v Speaker 2>This is recorded on Thursday afternoon, June eighth, with the

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<v Speaker 2>stay of the Golf world. Some really big stuff might

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<v Speaker 2>happen this weekend. This is going to be released on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>June eleventh, So you know, if something big happens, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't cover in this. Maybe I'll add it at the intro.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is what we're we're operating with the information

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<v Speaker 2>as of June eighth. This is a big picture podcast

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<v Speaker 2>about the US Open. So, Jeff, this is a as

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<v Speaker 2>an l A native. Uh, this is a property that

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<v Speaker 2>you're quite intimate with your a co art.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have an intimate with I'm intimately familiar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had an intimate, whether we might we might

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<v Speaker 1>have to call the police. But I'm sorry, go.

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<v Speaker 2>On, you know you could you might be you might

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<v Speaker 2>be able to describe some of the things. All the

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<v Speaker 2>photos you have is being intimate with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is that. Yeah, yeah, I do have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of photos in the drawers, so yeah, there is that.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, we're you know, I figured this would be

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<v Speaker 2>a great podcast to have you on. You write a

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<v Speaker 2>The Quadrilateral, a substack newsletter that is uh that centers

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<v Speaker 2>on the major So we got Major Championship golf in

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<v Speaker 2>l A at a golf course that you are a

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<v Speaker 2>co architect of the rest of who better to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you, and we're doing our traditional five things about

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<v Speaker 2>the US Open. So I will give you the first

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<v Speaker 2>at bat here, And what's the first thing you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't want to make people's eyes glaze over

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<v Speaker 1>because it probably sounds rather drab, but obviously the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm really watching and fascinated by is we

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<v Speaker 1>have a golf course that nobody knows, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of players who have some experience there, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a world right now where War One, there's that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing going on off the course, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>live in a time where players rely a lot on data,

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<v Speaker 1>and they rely a lot on their caddy more than

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<v Speaker 1>they used to, and they like to play nine holes

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<v Speaker 1>a day and I don't see that working real well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm fascinated by how this early week is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go in terms of people get to know the course,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand it, because it it is a it

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<v Speaker 1>is a course that has some elements that takes them

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<v Speaker 1>getting used to. And so yeah, not to start off

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<v Speaker 1>with about the least sexy sounding thing you could throw out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really do feel like, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to watch how these players take a crash course

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<v Speaker 1>when they're just not used to this kind of thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they used to do the pre scouting trips,

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<v Speaker 1>and there have been guys who've gone there for scouting trips,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as many as you think. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we saw it at ok Hill, which was essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>new golf course, and I was out there at late

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon Monday, beautiful day. Marshalls were all out there and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, where are the players. I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean. I've been here on about six hour

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<v Speaker 1>six of my shift and I've seen four golfers come through,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, it's a new world. They like to rest,

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<v Speaker 1>they watch aerials, the caddy tells the where to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just don't think that's gonna fly on La

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<v Speaker 1>North and so that I think that's just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's a different type of golf course

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<v Speaker 2>than Okill too. I would I I don't mean this

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<v Speaker 2>to smirch oak Kill, but I think it was different

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<v Speaker 2>very in front of you. You know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there was much nuance to o Kill. It was you

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<v Speaker 2>know the fairways. Aren't asking you ever a question other

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<v Speaker 2>than just please try to hit me at okill Here

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<v Speaker 2>at La CEC, there might be a little bit more strategic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, the idea of strategy and pro

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<v Speaker 2>golf is you know, limited, but there is some space

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<v Speaker 2>to operate here. There's some space to think about playing

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<v Speaker 2>a whole a different way. You talked about this, what

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<v Speaker 2>what's one area you think? Think like you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>particular spot you think is an example of maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>want to see this more times so that you understand

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<v Speaker 2>the way something works.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I mean you could. You could go through

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<v Speaker 1>so many holes, but I guess I would. The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that comes to mind are the fifth and sixth holes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very different holes. You know, at one point

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<v Speaker 1>in my lifetime, the fifth was always considered the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>holl in La It's it's about four ninety and uphill

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<v Speaker 1>t shot, but it's it's going to have a massive fairway.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet if things dry out and it's sunny today, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>uh here it's bliss. We're nice to see the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>The course is pretty green right now. But if it's dry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this this massive fairway. But you have this this

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<v Speaker 1>slot up the left side, and you have to get comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you know it just it just calls for

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a big, beautiful cut. But if you get

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<v Speaker 1>that running and it runs down the fairway into the rough,

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<v Speaker 1>into the with a semi obstructed view of the see

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<v Speaker 1>shot by trees, you're going to be kind of annoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an awkward line and you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>get comfortable with that. Is it? Are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to hit a slight draw? Are you just going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to start it left? But if you start

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<v Speaker 1>it left and double cross it, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in massive trouble. So that's one, and then the whole

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<v Speaker 1>right after. It's a drivable four. And I just know

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<v Speaker 1>how these guys tend to play ten at Riviera, But

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<v Speaker 1>that one's data driven, andy, so you know they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the data to say, well, just bomb it up

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<v Speaker 1>there and gouge.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what Google Earth's for. You can figure out

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<v Speaker 2>anything on Google.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth right exactly. And of course that's just just just

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<v Speaker 1>not the case here. And you know, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you read the book I do touch on the value

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<v Speaker 1>of Google Earth and the things you can get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But I also make very clear there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things you just can't get out of

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<v Speaker 1>Google Earth. In terms of how you approach a course,

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<v Speaker 1>you can. It's a great starting point. It's a great

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<v Speaker 1>sense of place thing, knowing where the bathrooms are, or

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<v Speaker 1>where the range is, or where the bunkers are, or

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<v Speaker 1>where the bunkers are cut short or set short of

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<v Speaker 1>a green. But in terms of a hole like the

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<v Speaker 1>six that La, it just has so many dimensions depending

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's a it's a version of the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth of Riviera, only it has a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of hazard. E Baranca won't be marked as hazard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. I know that decision was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be made this week by Thomas Pegel. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a it's not a waterway, so it'll be this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sandy problematic thing. And then you have a green

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<v Speaker 1>that's perched and it's a long green, and I happen

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<v Speaker 1>to be of the view that you know, it's a hole.

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<v Speaker 1>You lay up down the fairway, you basically hit almost

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<v Speaker 1>the same link shot you could hit to the front

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<v Speaker 1>of the green, and that's just gonna make head spin,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just just that notion that a two two

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<v Speaker 1>point eighty shot what you get when it's two ninety

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<v Speaker 1>to the front of the green, let's say, or to

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, but you really should lay up to eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five and then have a wedge end of the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the green. That's just not the way they play

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<v Speaker 1>golf today. So they have a lot to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>on that hole, and I just don't think you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that in one day. And so things like that

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<v Speaker 1>I think are those would be those holes just stand

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<v Speaker 1>out immediately to me to your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the other aspect of it is like

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<v Speaker 2>getting comfortable just with some of the targets that some

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<v Speaker 2>of the little nooks of the greens are going to present,

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<v Speaker 2>where you just you don't have a bailout option. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're bailing out, you're going to have twenty, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a longer putt like where you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>getting comfortable with that idea, right, is something that is

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<v Speaker 2>unique about this golf course. It almost has the tongues

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't see at Augusta that you see in

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<v Speaker 2>the old photos in certain wings and stuff. And with that,

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<v Speaker 2>like one of my things about this US Open is

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of the anti US Open test right

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<v Speaker 2>the traditional narrow fairway, thick rough test we've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>USGA they started to go away from that narrow fairway,

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.120
<v Speaker 2>thick rough test. It feels like they've gone a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit back into it. But this is a place with space.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's going to reward some creativity shot making.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not going to be a bludgeon fest like

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<v Speaker 2>we saw at Wingfoot or Tory Pines. You know, this

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.679
<v Speaker 2>is a golf course that is going to potentially, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>reward some different skill sets that we've typically seen at

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<v Speaker 2>the US Open that's become superpower driven. So with that

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, it kind of brings to me to Jordan Speeth,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that won a US Open at a non

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<v Speaker 2>traditional US Open site of Chabers Bay that had wide fairways,

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<v Speaker 2>that was firm and fast, that presented a golf course

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<v Speaker 2>that you had to think about where you were landing shots,

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<v Speaker 2>you know where they were going to end up because

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<v Speaker 2>of contours in the ground. And obviously he played phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>at the Memorial, a golf course that doesn't suit his

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<v Speaker 2>his his really profile of game. The swing looks great,

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers look great, and I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>we see a player that we usually don't consider a

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<v Speaker 2>US Open type player in the mix here he's.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely is that your number one? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have I don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've usually used mine. I'm a host here. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the conversation flowing. This is just one of

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that I had written down that with our conversation, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great one and he definitely is a player.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking a lot about partly for the reasons you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that he that he seems to be past the

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<v Speaker 1>worst part of whatever was going on with the wrist,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, to survive okill without re injuring it

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic because that rough was just beyond belief. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff like that, and we will get into it

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<v Speaker 1>because one of my items involves some stuff with the

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<v Speaker 1>bunkers and the grass. But he's played there a decent amount.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's played some some Wednesdays of LA or

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesdays of Genesis week with Jay Danzy and some members

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<v Speaker 1>and likes the course. But more importantly, I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>always that's always a nice thing to your point on creativity,

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<v Speaker 1>imagination and the things that this course brings out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've thought a lot about the course, what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>most excited about, and I may be proven wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like all sorts of styles of play can

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<v Speaker 1>handle this. If you're playing well, you're going to be rewarded.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think there's some some T shots where

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<v Speaker 1>if you can hit a very long, high draw, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a huge advantage. And I do think

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<v Speaker 1>being able to kind of hit a soft cut into

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the greens like any US Open, will still be a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful advantage, both because of assuming the greens get nice

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and firm and all so just the shape of the shots.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of holes where it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have a right to left bend T

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<v Speaker 1>shot and the kind of a nice cut second. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're playing well, it just doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're short, you're long, whatever you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do well there. But I do believe that he is

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<v Speaker 1>still of a generation where I think he goes up

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<v Speaker 1>to a different level if he feels like he can

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<v Speaker 1>be uh creative and that he can that he can

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<v Speaker 1>work his magic, and so yeah, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's just set up really nicely for him, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>anxious to see how he manages a week. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think having played their decent amounts really gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>him kind of you know, ease into the week, whereas

0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:49.639
<v Speaker 1>some guys are gonna be on this crash course Monday

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<v Speaker 1>through Wednesday trying to trying to learn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the thing about this golf course that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to yield the variety of of styles is that

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<v Speaker 2>by the space, by offering some space off the t

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 2>some latitude off the tee, it doesn't make driving it

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 2>long a prerequisite, right because it is affording it's going

0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to afford players the opportunity to hit a substantial amount

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 2>of irons, you know, like we see are a substantial

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<v Speaker 2>amount of fairways and have good iron shots into greens.

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, they are going to be extremely challenging iron

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>shots with the way the greens are, the little nooks

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and crannies that they have. But you know, there's a

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 2>feasible world where somebody might hit every fairway in a

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 2>round of golf out here, which you cannot say about

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 2>the majority of US Open courses. They're like, I would

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<v Speaker 2>not be surprised if somebody hits fourteen to fourteen fairways

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 2>in a round of golf here And to me, you

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>know what, like, if you're talking about a test, it

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 2>makes sense that somebody should be able to excel at

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that component of the test. And it to be that's

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>where so many venues get it wrong in major setup

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 2>is like, are we really striving for a success to

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<v Speaker 2>be sixty percent on one of the aspects of the test?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as well, it's just that obedience kind of golf

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<v Speaker 1>versus letting the players play, and they andre's there are

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>plenty of opportunities, by the way to get in trouble

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 1>if you start to get a little sloppy and just

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking you can just bomb it out there. You still

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 1>have to be careful at times, but you also are

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>not going to be you're gonna be able to hit driver.

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's just start there. And we know what that kind

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>of does to the whole mojo of a tournament when

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>when when they take the a driver out of their hands,

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it just becomes this, It immediately loses something and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I guess we should explain a lot

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people maybe wondering why is it wide.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's a very severe property in places. And

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>if it gets running, and we've seen it in the

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Pac twelve and a little bit in the Walker Cup,

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to be careful because a couple of these

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>massively wide fairways can get to where they play so

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>narrow that it's a little bit goofy that that no

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 1>good drive is rewarded, not every hole but a few

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>key holes. And the USA doesn't want that, and that's

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a great thing. That's where they've changed, i think in

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways. Or they're just more cautious, and

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>they really do. They're not paying lip service to this

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.919
<v Speaker 1>about the architecture. They're they're genuine. They want to they

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>want to let the design when the design is good,

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they want to let the design determine the champion. And

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>they they are less concerned with the winning score than

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they used to be, even though they used to claim

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>they never were interested in the winning score. They are.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking the winning score will probably unless we

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>get just a ton of afternoon when it'll probably be

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>thirteen fourteen under. But I think it'll be as I

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>think it'll be a great finish in a sensational week, don't.

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it being something like a birdie shootout.

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll still separate the field, and uh, that's

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>what you want. I think.

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of my things to watch is

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the winning score. And I think we're gonna if it's

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 2>at thirteen or fourteen under, there's going to be an

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>outrage that this isn't a US Open.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And there's always that, and I think.

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 2>That's just the silliest thing. It's a you know, I

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>think the different ways that this golf course puts pressure

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 2>on your game is super unique, and the different shots

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>that it's going to require, different shapes. It shows you

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different windows off the tee, like you said,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>some some really wide fairways that play super narrow, some

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>more narrow shots, like I mean, like the way fourteen

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 2>is narrowed down, Like you got to hit a perfect

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.959
<v Speaker 2>T shot on fourteen to hit that fairway. And one

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>of the things I think about is like the variety

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 2>of windows. Not showing somebody the exact same with every

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>hole makes driving much more difficult because you don't get

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 2>used to what you're looking at. And I think that's

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 2>a big part of this is looking at you know,

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>around the greens, you're gonna have bunkers, you're gonna have baranka,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>which is different than the bunkers. It's a very unpredictable

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 2>lie like you don't know what you're gonna get when

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>you go into a baranka. You have thick rough, you

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>have short grass like that's the type of around the

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>green tests that you want to see every type of shot.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>People aren't just it's not just a hack it out

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 2>of the rough or I'm in a bunker. There are

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of variety, and that's what I want from

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>a test. I want I don't care about the score.

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I care about the wide range of shots that are

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>being asked to be hit to succeed. We want a test,

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 2>a well rounded test that looks at everybody's game. And

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that this has the opportunity to do that

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 2>regardless of score.

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where the games just more enlightened, that more

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>people appreciate that element and not trying to have it

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>be well, just not go back to some of the

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>things that they used to do. And there will be

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>people who miss that. And I get it a little

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>bit in that you know, we love the differentiation of

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the four majors, but we've seen when you go to

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a great golf course and then you sort of emasculate

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it with narrowing and rough. Yeah, it just doesn't feel good.

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>You feel robbed, you feel cheated, And I think that's

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>what's exciting about this setup, regardless of whatever the whatever

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the score is. And so, but you set me up

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>for my second thing to look for pretty pretty nicely there,

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>so if I may, if you, if you'd like me.

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>To, I only jumped in because it was a good time,

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>so you know, well it was.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>A beautiful jump in and then it was a beautiful segue.

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>So I mean you asked me to think about the

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>five things or so that that people should be looking

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>for and expecting or watching and enjoying. And I think

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>number two, I mean after that early week stuff and

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>just sort of what players say. And and by the way,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it will be fun to contrast early week comments with

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>after four rounds, uh, their assessments of the golf course,

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I do expect some some unhappiness in

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>some ways because there's there's some blindness out there. But

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to your point on variety, uh, I feel like this course.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>If these part threes are set up well, there's five

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of them, has the best set of part threes in

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the United States. And that's I understand that there's pine

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Valley in Cyprus point places like that, and places with

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>oceans and dramatic shots. But I think when you pick

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>these apart, and again, if they're set up well, and

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and when I say set up well, what happened, Uh

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>when we did the restoration work, you know, we we

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>got away from box t's and so you have kind

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of what you saw at Southern Hills, a lot of

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know that fair way moment or cut, and you

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of flexibility and and we were more

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>than comfortable doing that because George Thomas was big on

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>day to day variety. That was his that's where he

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see architecture go in the future, and did

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that you use this course as his example, and so

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>we actually went beyond the original design concept. You know,

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a new left tee on nine that happened after

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>some eucalyptus trees died. There's a longer tea on four.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>There's two long te's on seven and eleven that I'm

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that those were built by us. Those were meant to

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>be alternate par four ties and his courses in the course,

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>but well now they're Part three t's. But I hope

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>those I hope those teas are moved around a lot, because,

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>as you said, all these wings and nooks and crannies

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>in these greens allow you to just have these radically

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>different yardages. But more than that, radically different shots, you know,

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the feel it's just can be so different day to

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>day that that these part threes never feel the same.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing worse, you know, just watching where they

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>just know what they're gonna hit, where to put it,

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and and I don't know how they're gonna figure that

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>out in the practice rounds, and I don't know how

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>much the USGA will telegraph. You know, Carrie Hague didn't

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>do that at all this year. It's o kill, which

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you thought was interesting. I mean one, I think one

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>spot he had some netting, but other than that, he

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>just left left the Part three t's wide open and

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>he moved him around, which was fun for me to

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>see because he I think he used to kind of

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>roll his eyes at that a little bit. But we

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>saw and we've seen it over and over again, it's

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a better test, it's more interesting for the player, it's

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>more interesting for us to watch. And and then within

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>this set of five at LA again it's just, uh,

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see how they're set up and

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>what they do to kind of kind of ring every

0:31:55.480 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of of character out of them. And I

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>know what you think in terms of a set of

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>par threes and where they rank. But I know, and

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I know some people would probably question that comment, but

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I but I do believe if they're set up with

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun and variety, they'll they'll people will

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>see like, oh wow, that was that's a pretty cool

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>set of holes.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I might want one that plays kind of uphill. That's

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>my it would be my my one critique where you

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>have you have two down two significantly downhill par threes

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and then three flat par threes effectively granted one to

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>you're fifteen over.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen slightly up and you can't see the greens. So

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that's somewhat of a it's I think I measured it

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>on Google or it's not much, but I know what

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you mean. Yeah, And I'm not, as you know, I don't.

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't care for downhill par threes or I don't.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like they're essential to the game. Where

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at most of the great part threes,

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>they are flat too slightly up. I do.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think that the downhill par threes work well

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>in in the way they're set up, right. I like

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>the idea of the fourth with the tabletop green, how

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.239
<v Speaker 2>it how everything repels on a shot that's really you know,

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>that downhill shot makes distance control more tough or more difficult,

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna miss right and left a little bit

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>more on it. And having that combined with a green

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that that runs really repels everything is a really fun shot, right,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think that one is, you know, it probably

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the the one that probably gets least talked about of

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the par threes. And then I would say I think

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the the leventh works well downhill because of its length, right,

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and just the the whole setting with the skyline. I

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>mean that, yeah, that par three And I don't think

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>from a playing standpoint, that's my favorite par three out there,

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>but from a just a setting standpoint, and and like

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>knowing where you are and everything about it, it's a

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>hard one to pass up. And I'm sure that's gonna

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>to be that banner shot of live from all week

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of going to commercial breaks the skyline, the eleventh green, that

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>one is going to get it. It's a lot of airtime.

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that And and by the way, number nine

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>plays a little up and nine is the one that

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm most interested in. It's the one I'm most proud of,

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah. And so when I first played La

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>as a as a kid, that green was this little

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>just awful. You know, the bunkers had just swollen up

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and you just had one row of pins up the middle,

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and it was too steep and it played long, and

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>then there was this horrible shoot of Yuke's and yeah,

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>if you hit one of those, you drop down, you're

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>just You're just dead. And it just was it just

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>was not a good hole. And so that was the

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>one where we most just completely rebuilt the entire green

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and we had some great photos and and Gil I think,

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>just did a phenomenal job of recapturing those contours. He

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>did that one on the dozer. I mean, it was

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>all the other greens, you know, we were kind of

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>working in a general shell, but that one was really

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a full destruction job. And what's so cool about that

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>one is that you know you can play it, and

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>we've already seen it. You could just play the tee

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>up to a front pin that's that's got a big

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>tier behind it, that's just a wedge, maybe a nine

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>iron if it's blowing in the afternoon, depending on where

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>they put the tea, And it's just this delicate shot.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>You just got one little place to put it. And

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>then you have these other dimensions when the pins are

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>on the upper shelf on the right where it's kind

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of a you almost want to cut it in and

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you almost want to play safe to the middle and

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.959
<v Speaker 1>just take your two putt. And then oddly the back

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>left pin the kind of dramatic, the one where you

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>could put the tea back, put the pin back. It

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>can be fifty yards difference from that front tee to

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>front pin, so you know, two three clubs difference. At least.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 1>That's actually probably the easiest pin on the green because

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the green kind of can funnel down to the pin

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's but it's a great feeling shot.

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You can kind of air it out, you can play

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>a draw, you can kind of cut it and and

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I just love like it just every day that hole

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>can just be it's like a new hole to the players,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and so it's probably the one I'm I'm just most

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>excited about watching what happens there and with the setup

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>and then how the how the players deal with that

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and whether they like that or not. And and it's

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>one that's really affected by the afternoon win. If we

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 1>can get this this morning marine layer to lift, that

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>afternoon breeze can really be something. But but in the mornings,

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, people just be ready when it's when it's foggy,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's when max Omer shot is sixty one. When

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>it's that marine layer, look out, there's gonna be some

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>good scoring because players just it's funny. I mean, I

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>asked them, I've tried to do an article on it,

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>and you just can't. You just can't. You just can't

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>break through. But yeah, Ken Venturre used to always believe

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that that that marine layer was just so much better

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>for scoring. It just took away the shadows. You just

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>saw what you needed to do better. Everything was just

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>just quieter. And I agree with him, and I think, yeah,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>we don't have the shot linked at it because I

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think they enter the weather I've asked if that's

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>possible to start entering weather hour by hour and someday

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>be able to see this difference. But I think you're

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>going to see some amazing scoring in the morning waves

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday and Friday.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I oh, we didn't.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Even talk about fifteen by the way, on the part threes,

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 1>so I think everybody's starting to hear that one. But

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's going to be the coolest of them all,

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>just because it's such a little little wei hole after

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>these two you know, eleven and fifty yards of hull

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>on thirteen and fourteen.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 2>And are just sixteen after it at.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Sixteen and seventeen and eighteen are all just huge. But

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>then in between and in my lifetime, you know, that

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>hole was always viewed as an afterthought and this kind

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of mistake and what the hell happened here? And so

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess other than number nine, that's probably the other

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>one in the third green, or probably the ones were

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>at least I can't speak for for Gil and Jim,

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>but that we're most proud of, just because I mean,

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about all the new dimensions to it and how

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>cool it was in the Walker Cup. So I'm a

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>little nervous. You know, it's that was a walker cup.

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>That's that was not a lot of players. We'll see

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>how it behaves when they go, you know, to the

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight eighty yard shot with a full field and

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, just more.

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe it's a Saturday. Maybe it's a Saturday.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably Saturday, would be my guest, but yeah, yeah,

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it'll definitely be the weekend if they when they do it,

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and I know they're going to do it, they loved it.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean they took all the numbers. It was so cool.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean will Zalatoris. I wrote about it in the

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>newsletter in my recap, and it sounds kind of clich ish,

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't know why else to put it.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>But anybody who was there that'll talk about the up,

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>the way he got up and down. He was long,

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and he had to use the little bump in the

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>green and funnel this crazy little shot. And I was

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>standing down in the front. It was just the coolest

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>little shot you've ever seen. And we had guys almost

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>hole out. There'll be a couple of hole in ones.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I almost guarantee it if they put it in the

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>right spot and a couple tap ins. You know, in

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the Pac Twelves in twenty thirteen, Casey Martin was out

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>there on the green standing I mean actually coaching. This

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is a real truth, Like I've never seen a golf

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>coach to get this much into coaching, showing the guys

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.959
<v Speaker 1>what line he won, and two of his guys hit it. Yeah,

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>they just had tap ins. It was so beautiful. It

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.720
<v Speaker 1>so cool to watch, you know, and he was allowed

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to do that. And because you kind of have to

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 1>pick a spot and then let it. If you catch

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it right, you spin it and it'll just kind of

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>funnel down. And so it's going to be a magnificent hole.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many people will be able to

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>get around it. You know, it's in a very busy intersection.

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>But I sure hope it's a featured hole, coverage hole.

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have those are Yeah, it just it would

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>just be so cool, it better. But I know Tommy

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Roy even a year ago, was already starting to talk

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>about it the NBC producers, so pretty confident. He has

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.959
<v Speaker 1>a good sense of what a what a great little

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>hole it's gonna be. I mean, like the eleventh the

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Country Club last year, it was a nice little part three.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>This has got way more going on as a short

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 1>short part three.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the eleventh of the Country Club was a nice

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>par three to look at, but like you know, in

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 2>a professional golf space did not. I don't think it

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>really put put the screws to to the players, like

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 2>like this par three will where the target targets here

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 2>are so small because of that central bump. You know,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>there's just not you just have to kind of take

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 2>that aim on a lot of these or use the bump.

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<v Speaker 2>g A. I guess this is a combination. I've decided

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to combo this. We're gonna spin with the with the

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously the Saudi Arabia news, the the great, the great merger,

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<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour brought to you by Saudi Arabia that

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 2>we have entered into, and then obviously the U. S

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 2>g A and their efforts to reign in the golf ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a this is gonna be a

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>big week. We will get a ball update. There's been

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>some presentations made to the PGA Tour, you know obviously, uh,

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Mike One will have it. We'll speak at this event

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure I'm just this is the through line

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I think of major championships, uh for the foresee of

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 2>future is you know, and this will be one at

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the Open. But like, what's our update on the golf ball?

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>In our pursuit to maybe not have these these fantastic

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>athletes that just be able to drive the ball to

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>where they render five hundred and forty yard par fours

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>into driver nine iron like we'll probably see this week.

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's going to be a lot to look

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 1>at on this course for people if they if they

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>care to see what had to have been done to

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>get the holes relevant in certain spots and some of

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the crazy tea locations and numbers and intersections. And I

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>hope people see that and see what a what a

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>way it alters not just the playing experience, but the

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>access fan movement all that stuff. You know, there's some

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>areas that in the past would have been a great

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.439
<v Speaker 1>place for a grand stand, Well now there are back

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>tee for another hole and things like that. I don't

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>expect him to give us much because I think that

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>comment period goes through August, so I'm guessing that we

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we won't get much of an update on how that

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that meeting went. And uh uh, it'll be interesting to

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>hear where that is on the priority list of the

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of the players now in light of everything that's going on,

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to think it's about forty eighth on the

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 1>list of things that really should matter to them, which

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>is their their their deals with companies, and their their

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>their their victimhood at at possibly losing thirty yards. Although

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, of course now we're hearing the they were

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>told the professional ball would fail under the new testing parameters.

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>The ball from the mid nineties where we saw the

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>huge leap ironically here at Riviera in the ninety five PGA,

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>is when I really saw the the leaf from them.

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's it's one of those things that

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that I look at some of these t's in THATXT

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>week and I just I just shake my head. They're

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 1>they're in some crazy places. And uh and then but

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.240
<v Speaker 1>this time of year when the guys are it's warm,

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>hopefully warm. Uh and and and and the forecast of

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>the tournament days is looking pretty good in terms of

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>warming up. It's warm, they're in shape, they're in peak

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>performance mode. They just hit it some crazy places.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 2>It's uh it seems like the other aspect of the

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the golf ball out here, uh in in the the

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 2>tee locations is going to be the the flow and

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 2>possibly the pace of place. Yeah. I you know that

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 2>we saw this last year at the Open Championship at

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 2>the Old Course. It just was impossible for anybody to

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 2>get around the golf course in a brisk pace because

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of you know where tea boxes are and having to wait.

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, you've done it again. You seg you segued. You

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know my My next thing to look for

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 1>was but uh so there's a stretch at l Country Club.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:04.479
<v Speaker 1>The things I'm really looking for, I'm not looking forward

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to watching this. I'm just looking to watch this. So

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Captain George Thomas was, you know, not a big template

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:14.919
<v Speaker 1>guy as you know any but one of the things

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>he wrote about in his book was starting off with

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>some longer holes and spacing out play. He was ahead

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of his time on pace of play and so he

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>had a set formula. It was the only really formulaic

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>thing that he and Billy Bell did started it really,

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess with well White Marsh has a par five opener,

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 1>but at Griffith Park, which he spent his own money

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>George Thomas to finish in nineteen twenty three, and that

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was before he was working with Bell. Starts with a beautiful,

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>beautiful par five and then a really great tough part

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>four and that became his thing. And so the good

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>news is LA Country Club with between one and two

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>good ghettle par five should average about four point five

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>or something. They'll they'll play it well, and I think

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>number two will probably average four point five. Uh, And

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that's his thing, and he did it at Riviera. Although

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I've heard I've heard rumblings that when they have the

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 1>US Open there in twenty thirty one, they're going to

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 1>go par four part five, which doesn't quite go with

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>his concept of letting you ease into the day. But whatever,

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's their thing. And so you then you

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>have three and then fours. A par three and five

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>is a good long par four, so you kind of

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>can space it out there. But then you get this stretch.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Six is driveable, seven is a hard part three, eight's

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a reachable. Par five be a lot of waiting on

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>six and eight. Nine's a devilish little part three. And

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think in the US Open conditions and especially in

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the afternoon when the wind starts picking up and then

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 1>ten is ten and twelve or two, you know, three

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>eighty ish par fours on the back nine that I

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>have no idea how those are going to play, but

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna. Yeah, they're not going to be

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>fast holes. And the elevens a hard part three, So

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that stretch of six through twelve has the potential to

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 1>be quite a slow play nightmare. So I'll be really

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 1>curious what they're going to be able to do, if anything,

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to try to prevent an all out debacle on that front.

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am I am I being overly nervous here?

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Or is that something you noticed when you when you've

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>been looking at the golf course?

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's the combination of the holes.

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, are are the just the the

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 2>gazelles of the PGA tour, you know who managed to

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 2>render every golf course slow?

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 2>But then then furthermore, how you're going to have people

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>waiting on tees like the ninth and sixteenth tees right

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 2>or the ninth and seventeenth teeth. Yeah, yeah, Like that's

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 2>a spot where you have tea boxes right next to

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 2>eleven and sixteen.

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Eleven and sixteen, Yeah, we have some you.

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Have these close proximity areas where both groups can't tee

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 2>off at the same time, so they could both tea

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 2>effectively tee off, but one's waiting for the other, and

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 2>those little delays over and over again just reverberate their

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.240
<v Speaker 2>way through the field and then all of a sudden,

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>if you're at the back of the bus of one

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of these waves, you're going to be you know, maybe

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.479
<v Speaker 2>maybe one of the tips for the players is bring

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>bring a little chair out with you. Yeah, you have

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 2>the cardy, have the caddy, bring a little stool for yourself.

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 2>At every style.

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what they'll do, uh yeah, Or I was

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking more I was going to go with Hogan and

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the shooting stick a little more you know, dignified. But

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I don't know what they'll have in the

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 1>way of they should have some bench seating on some

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>of those teas, or maybe they want to encourage it.

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they don't really do benches in the in

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the US Open, do they.

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 2>It like reminds me of that of the college event

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 2>at Greyhawk when they did they moved that when it

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 2>was a sixteen or seventeen up to drive a bole

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 2>where you had three or four groups of college players

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 2>just sitting on the tea box. So that's gonna be

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, the slow play. The rounds are going to

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 2>be obviously you have all the light in the world

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 2>at this time of year, but that that's going to

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 2>be a tough, a tough situation, yeah, especially.

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Six, and I don't I've watched now at Riviera the

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>last few years. I'm not even convinced that that waving

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>people up does any good. In fact, there are times

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>where I feel like it makes it worse. And now

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>six in La is interesting because it's so drivable, but

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it's blind. So yeah, I would not want to be

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a marshal on that whole, the whole, the whole h

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>dealing with that situation marshaling wise is I hope they

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>put their best people on that one in terms of

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>flags and systems of when to go. And I mean

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the good news. I think only the only good news

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I can find. Well, we'll see is if a decent

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>number of guys actually see the benefit of laying up

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 1>down the fairway and then they'll just hit, they'll lay up,

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and they'll uh, they'll they'll I could see, you know, ready,

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>golf being something the USGA is willing to to to ponder.

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I may ask about that early in the week. I'd

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>be curious. I'd love to see that. But you know,

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.919
<v Speaker 1>and this will be as you know, I've talked, tried

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk to many players about slow play and how

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the architecture and the weights and the and the distance

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 1>component plays a role, and they just they're just not

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>interested in hearing it. They really aren't. So it's mine fading.

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 2>My next thing. I'm gonna go. I'm kind of cheating here.

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting Brooks, Brooks, the smash captain, who I'm sure

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 2>will be, you know, doing military workouts himself all week. Brooks, Koepka,

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Scotti Scheffler, and John Ram to me are kind of

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the stories of of golf this year. There there two

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 2>of them are the stories of the major championships. I

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 2>think Scotty's probably in the same mix as a major

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 2>championships stories. And there there are three players that are

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 2>playing outstanding golf and they come in to a venue that,

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously I think fits their games. I don't

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>know of many venues that don't fit their games. But

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, can can Brooks, you know, he's gone first

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and second in the majors this year? Can he continue

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 2>on a pace that we've seen him do before? Could

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 2>he add another? Here? Is it another? In contention late

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:48.760
<v Speaker 2>moment with Scottie Scheffler. Obviously you've got the putter issues,

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time. When you hit it as

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 2>good as he's been hitting it, you know, you can

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 2>put poorly and win. And then John Ram Finally this

0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 2>this seemingly would be a golf course that really will

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>highlight his strengths. Those three, to me are the are

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the three big favorites, and they have some separation from

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 2>probably I would put you know, Rory in a bucket

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 2>of other players next, But those are the three favorites.

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Do we get one of those players winning and continuing on,

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, in all three like Brooks, it's kind of

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate he's not playing on on the regular two on

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour, so we could see how this year

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>might be with Brooks because those other two guys have

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 2>just been such dominant stories of every tournament they tee

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 2>it up in.

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Seemingly Brooks can't play a regular event. What are you

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about?

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 2>He won, He won a live event. He's one. He's

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.280
<v Speaker 2>the only player this one too live event.

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>You argue that's one of the greatest wins of his

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>career given how he plays in non majors.

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why I'm so if we just gave him

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a tour win. You know, you all sudden like instead

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 2>of the live win. Like you, you look at the

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:04.399
<v Speaker 2>tour schedule and Rom's got five, Scott He's got two

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.399
<v Speaker 2>in a top five in every other event that he's

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:10.399
<v Speaker 2>played in effectively, and then you got Brooks with two.

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's kind of like there aren't many

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.920
<v Speaker 2>tournaments that weren't won by these guys in the twenty

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 2>three calendar.

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I agree with you, and those three are

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>all obvious favorites. And Scheffler and Rom both have experience.

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Rom in the twenty thirteen Pac Twelves as a freshman,

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 1>played four rounds and then Scheffler was playing on the

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Walker Cup team. Now mind you, but you know Rom

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:36.919
<v Speaker 1>is a freshman and Scheffler was not having a good

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>week and so they're totally different golfers coming to this.

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But I just think having that time around the golf course,

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 1>some memories will come back. I mean, I think Scheffler

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is the favorite just because of his experience there and

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the way he's hitting the ball and the greens being

0:55:56.440 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>yeah it's a mix of greens, Yeah it's George Thomas

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>was not a great putter, so he did build a

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of He didn't go crazy with the contour, but

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.720
<v Speaker 1>there's some that are really steeply pitched and some really

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 1>devilish putts out there. However, I don't think you need

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to be incredibly creative and you need to be below

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the hole a lot. That's really as I've been going

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>through these holes in the newsletter and I hate even

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>writing it, but you know, really be good to be

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 1>below the hole here. Yeah, thanks Sherlock. That's brilliant, but

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it really speaks to how well you you need to

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>be playing with your irons and maybe even miss a

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>few greens just short, uh, and not have that down

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Hiller And and I think that the key with him

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is is is he going to let this frustration with

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the putting eventually sort of boil over into into his game.

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So far he hasn't, but he doesn't look like he's

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, exactly patient with those around him and not

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 1>finding a solution. That's it again. The last time he

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>was there, he was struggling that week, And I mean

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Camera Champ hit a four hundred yard drive on fourteen

0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you could walk out in the fairways and

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:14.919
<v Speaker 1>everybody was wanting to watch Camera Champ that and hits

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a four hundred yarder on fourteen, he delivers and Scott

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he hit it so far out of bounds. I mean,

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>he had the entire golf course to the left and

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he hit a four iron just past Aaron Spelling's house

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the manor excuse me, and which is down below the

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 1>fourteenth hole. And he didn't play in the afternoon that

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>day and it was probably that shot. But he even

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>just kind of knew he was struggling coming into the week.

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's funny he was Alatauris and Scheffler were the

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>two that were really just not on their game coming

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.440
<v Speaker 1>into that Walker Cup. But some things have changed. So yeah,

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you those three. And then I yeah,

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw. I mean, I just I think it's

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 1>just a phenomenal golf course for Rory, but I can't

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>get past all this drama and not having been there

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and trying to play Canada come in and do the

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>crash course. I mean, if I were him, I would say,

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 1>no press conference. I'm not doing a press conference, and

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and just I mean, I I don't know why he

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>needs to do one.

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 2>He ever he plays, he does and it's like I

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 2>feel bad because he goes up there and it's like

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 2>what what He's going to answer the same exact questions.

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 2>He answered the last.

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Thing exactly, and he's great at it. Yeah, he's a

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>good sport. And you know what, it's time to not

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>be a good sport. It's time to be an ass

0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and say, you know what. I know, I'm a former

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>US Open champion. I have work to do. I have

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 1>rest to do.

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He's spoken how he can't. He loves West Coast Opens,

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>he loves the idea that it's going to be in

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills. I've got my family. I just can't talk

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to you. There's nothing. There's nothing I'm going to be

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 1>able to tell you about the golf course. Nothing I

0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 1>can tell you about live and all that crap. I

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about it. And I would have

0:58:56.680 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 1>all the admiration in the world for him and doing that, because,

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said, man, some of those t shots, Oh man,

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I would love to be able to hit his drive

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>on his And even there's even a couple that in

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 1>this setup in the Open you wouldn't normally call draw holes,

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that that are really becoming draw holes because of the

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of US Open. Tees one and sixteen immediately come

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to mind so and then yeah, I'm I'm I'm just

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but I am with you on speeth and and just

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>feeling like you know, Bermuda grass too. You know, that's

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 1>another thing people need to remember. That's the Yeah, he

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.439
<v Speaker 1>plays that a lot. I mean, it's not a big thing,

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of stars aligning, certainly for speed,

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but it is hard to get past Ron, Scheffler and

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Kopka and Brooks. No reason why he won't love the

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>golf course. I can't, I don't. I don't believe he's

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>been there. I believe he did answer that question. I

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 1>don't believe he's been so I'll see when he rolls

0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>into town.

0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Were any of those on your list? Were any what

1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:03.920
<v Speaker 2>those players on your list of things to watch?

1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>No? No, I didn't. I didn't want to. I wasn't

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>going to specify any players I was. I was, Yeah, No, So.

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:11.000
<v Speaker 2>What do you got next?

1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll go back to since we just mentioned grass

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and architecture. But I would love to make a little

1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 1>explanation because I'm a little nervous about the reception to

1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the Bunkers, and I think the Bunkers are going to

1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be a big story. Yeah, so try to explain this

1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 1>because it's I don't think it's that complicated, but and

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:35.680
<v Speaker 1>try to give people kind of an idea of what

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>we tried to do and where they're at for this

1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 1>this championship. But so George Thomas and Billy Bell worked

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.280
<v Speaker 1>together and they kind of had a style and it

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:49.520
<v Speaker 1>evolved with each course. They got a little more aggressive

1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:53.600
<v Speaker 1>with it. It was sort of a fringy dune blowout,

1:00:53.720 --> 1:01:00.040
<v Speaker 1>baseball glove, floating cloud, you know, irregular edges look. And

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:03.160
<v Speaker 1>we had good photos, but we didn't have every whole

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a perfect groundshot of And so when we pitched this restoration,

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 1>we said, look, we you know, the bunkers become totally dysfunctionally.

1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>They were hard to get in and out of. Everything buried.

1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a Friday egg everywhere. They were awful.

1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:25.439
<v Speaker 1>They had these shelves h they'd just been edged to death,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd been rebuilt not very well. And we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get get everything backed down a little bit, a little

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<v Speaker 1>less swollen and nice, nice easy walk in on the

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<v Speaker 1>low side with fairway right up to the edge, and

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to see that and then get back

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<v Speaker 1>this this look that Thomas and Bell did but we said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an old club and it's an old golf course,

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<v Speaker 1>and he should look old. And Gil and Jim had

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<v Speaker 1>done a process that created a process of creating a

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<v Speaker 1>thicker lip and you know, just just just that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool old look. And so we did a test

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<v Speaker 1>bunker figured out which grasses would be best. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>fine fescue kind of as you'll see on the lips,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's tall fescue on top, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a popular or was a popular lawn grass. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it is as much now because it loves water.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool season grass, and so they're very hairy and

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<v Speaker 1>they're very there's a lot going on in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then with all the rain we had, they're really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're thriving right now, and there may be a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much, so you know, it's a visual thing mostly

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<v Speaker 1>was the goal, but also just to kind of really

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<v Speaker 1>make those bunkers pop. You know, Bermuda edges wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>done so, so those things are pretty hairy and wild

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Whereas the rough on the course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just haven't had much warm weather, so it may

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<v Speaker 1>not be the dense Bermuda rough that people expect. Also

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<v Speaker 1>because the style of grass bandera, it just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it grows. Sometimes the ball sits up on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even at three inches, it just doesn't just doesn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>fall down as much. So I'm very nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>Two types of bermuda, right, isn't there bandera and something else?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the bandera is in the rough. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the fairway grass. And uh so I'm a little nervous about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that dichotomy of of the two kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>rough grasses. And then obviously some of the lies that

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<v Speaker 1>guys will get her in those bunkers are around them

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<v Speaker 1>and then inside the actual bunkers. You know, the USGA

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<v Speaker 1>does not They're not big on firm sand and and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what the tour tends to do to not

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure guys don't get embarrassed. So they and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's been standard of the US Open a while. So,

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<v Speaker 1>uh there's no liners in these. You can get some

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<v Speaker 1>funky stances sometimes if you really hit a weird shot,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so, you know, I hope that well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm thinking. Players don't view these things

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<v Speaker 1>as now I'm so naive they they just they think

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<v Speaker 1>they're just very spoiled when it comes to bunkers as

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<v Speaker 1>we know. U.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, take about the Southern Hills drama. Remember the

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Hills drama, like the sand pebbles.

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<v Speaker 1>And the changing the bounce, and they they they got

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<v Speaker 1>a little carried away with the pebbles and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the the outrage and they were, uh yeah, they had

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<v Speaker 1>all week to practice him, I mean Tiger at least

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<v Speaker 1>when he sculled them out of him in the first round. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't blame the sand. I don't think he did,

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<v Speaker 1>at least not that I recall. He was he was,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew he hit bad shots. So I mean, these

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be as firm, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, it would be nice again if

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<v Speaker 1>we keep getting some sun to dry it out. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just hope that people understand that they are they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be hazards. George Thomas did not throw at

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<v Speaker 1>bunkers everywhere, and they're really well placed and and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in one, you know that's your problem. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I'm naive. I realize that's that

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<v Speaker 1>that the guys and then you may not have a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect lie on them, and I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have some meaning and the areas around them will have meaning. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't I don't know if players will be

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<v Speaker 1>how receptive they'll be to that. So that's definitely something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm bout my fifth one, okay, and I

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<v Speaker 2>use this one for oak Hill, But I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a develop big story that needs to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, we love our best player to never

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<v Speaker 2>win a major debate best player without majors. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great topic that everybody loves to be on. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I think these two have just a sneakily

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<v Speaker 2>worked there that been just top ten players without doing

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<v Speaker 2>much of anything in notable events. But they are quickly

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<v Speaker 2>ascending the weeks of the top ten of the world

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<v Speaker 2>rankings list, and I think they need to be talked

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<v Speaker 2>about like these This is a perfect fit for both

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<v Speaker 2>of them, xanderst Patrick Cantley to Southern Californians coming to

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<v Speaker 2>play LACC. You know, they do everything well. This golf

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<v Speaker 2>course should should set up beautifully for them. They've spent

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<v Speaker 2>each of us Xander's been in the top ten in

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<v Speaker 2>the world for one hundred and eighty nine weeks. Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Cantley has been in the top ten for one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy nine weeks. To put that in perspective, Ricky Fowler,

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<v Speaker 2>who everybody always cites is the best player that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>win a major of this generation, he was in the

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<v Speaker 2>top ten for two hundred and six weeks. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he'll get back there. Luke Donald at two twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>So really in the next year, in the next calendar year,

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<v Speaker 2>these two will have passed. Luke Donald will have passed

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Fowler, and we'll be bearing barreling down on the

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<v Speaker 2>next next longest stint without a major, Steve Stricker. And

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<v Speaker 2>at that point there are Lee Westwoods, the only next

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<v Speaker 2>target really that's on this list in Monte without majors.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, these guys, I don't see them falling

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<v Speaker 2>out of the top ten in the world rankings because

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<v Speaker 2>they seemingly knock off a win or two in these

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<v Speaker 2>in these elevated, uh hitting giggles on the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 2>that are contested. So to me, in particular with with

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Cantley, I need to see something from a major championship,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and if.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't the weak line up for him. He shot

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two. Now when he shot the sixty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, very clear here, I'm not in any

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<v Speaker 1>way demeaning the round. In fact, the round was spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>The greens were soft, they were having some trouble in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of the growing and there was some

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<v Speaker 1>scalping going on and it was a stunning round because

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<v Speaker 1>the greens were not perfect. So he has a sixty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows members, he's played there a decent amount. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just so Jeckyll and Hide and these in majors.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he does show up sometimes and and but

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<v Speaker 1>seems to and then their weeks is just not there

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I I really do expect him to play well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this one is just set up for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we know, there's a lot of pressure too

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<v Speaker 1>that can really throw you off. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>good news is, by the way, another guy who should

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<v Speaker 1>not do a press conference because I just again I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a week where he needs to go. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that's a big one for me. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my my my area. I have a lot of views

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<v Speaker 1>on the tour thing. I don't want to get I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go down that I want to. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to play well here. I played a lot here

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<v Speaker 1>at U C l A, So I hope he does that.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I don't think his press conferences are very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So then there's Xander. Yes, I mean great US Open

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<v Speaker 1>record again this one just he's played there with Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>he by all. I talked to him at Riviera this

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<v Speaker 1>year and he really likes the golf course. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just like to step back to and just

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<v Speaker 1>point out what an unbelievable time this is for us

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<v Speaker 1>in Southern California. And I know the people think that

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<v Speaker 1>golf here is is really a wonderful place for a

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<v Speaker 1>developing player. It is not. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great ranges, especially if you're a public course person, you

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<v Speaker 1>have no place to hit off of grass and so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I include San Diego in this. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>few better ranges, thankfully than La Area. So and Xander's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the San Diego side of Southern California. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have Max Homa, you have Xander and Patrick a Southern Californians.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick obviously grew up at Virginia Country Club. Not a

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<v Speaker 1>public course guy, but but somebody who played you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the junior stuff around here, and so you have yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Max saiath Thikala, Yeah who played. I just found out

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<v Speaker 1>as a ten year old and a qualifier at LA

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<v Speaker 1>Country Club, a US junior on Earth by either somebody

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<v Speaker 1>at the USGA. But Julia shared that with me, Julia Pine.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, those two. You have Colin Morricawa, another public

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<v Speaker 1>course kid from southern California. I mean this, you know

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<v Speaker 1>my dream scenario is and.

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<v Speaker 2>All these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky's Temecula absolutely, and I think Ricky would be rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for a little that afternoon Sea breeze because we know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great win player and he's playing really well

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't have any idea on his track

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<v Speaker 1>record at LA. So it's a very special time in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of players we've produced, and most of them being

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<v Speaker 1>public golf golfers. Now what what that means when they

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<v Speaker 1>come to LA Country Club? Because yeah, what about him?

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<v Speaker 1>He's northern, Northern Cown, Northern cow Clovis. Come on, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Californian, now you got Yeah, we don't count that. No,

1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that's central California, I guess, but no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we draw the line. Plus it's him, So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have these I mean, I feel like all those

1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:11.439
<v Speaker 1>players should have a great shot. I mean, so I

1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:15.320
<v Speaker 1>was playing beautifully. Another person who this is, you just

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<v Speaker 1>look at the golf course. It's great for him. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about all of those players and and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like all of them are. And it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>it's just an amazing thing to think about when if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been here, I know we have beautiful weather. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing is most of those people all grew

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<v Speaker 1>up on Coculea and Poa, Coculia Fairways, Poa Greens, so

1:11:36.439 --> 1:11:40.040
<v Speaker 1>uh La is beautiful, Bent and Bermuda. It's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a upscale southern golf course kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I yeah, you know how it is you get

1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to your home area. You know, there's something about the

1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:54.840
<v Speaker 1>sea breeze you just you just remind us comfortable. I think, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. And and just knowing the city of

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<v Speaker 1>l A and kind of where to be and where

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<v Speaker 1>to stay and and and all that stuff is those

1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:06.120
<v Speaker 1>are all little things. And having some some hometown crowds

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<v Speaker 1>behind you, which also sets us up for my last item.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I feel like it's an exciting time.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the Australians love La too. There's there's

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<v Speaker 2>something about La and Australia and and you know, I

1:12:20.640 --> 1:12:24.120
<v Speaker 2>could see like I feel like this real quick. The

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<v Speaker 2>screams camp Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, it does, and he doesn't need to you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to be super long. And yeah, it should

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<v Speaker 1>be good for him. I mean, Adam Scott has shown

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<v Speaker 1>some moments lately and it should be a good week

1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.120
<v Speaker 1>for him. I'm I'm I'm assuming he's probably gonna roll

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<v Speaker 1>into town if he hasn't. He loves l A. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing how my players don't, yeah, don't like it

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<v Speaker 1>here and it and it seeps into their game. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be the time of year they come to Riviera

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just different. It's winter, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>traffic and crazy stuff going on. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like some people love it though, because

1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like you they there's stuff to do. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>Riviera and this one I think it's just so cool,

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<v Speaker 2>like the you know, in the sense of like God,

1:13:11.200 --> 1:13:14.559
<v Speaker 2>these guys get to just be immersed in culture in

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<v Speaker 2>like a in a cultural experience outside the golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, obviously for these guys, there's extraordinary food

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<v Speaker 2>in the areas of of these courses and and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know would be just a you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a delightful place to visit. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And nearly all of them could walk down any street

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles without their logos on and no one

1:13:37.479 --> 1:13:39.479
<v Speaker 1>will have a clue who they are. I mean, I

1:13:39.520 --> 1:13:42.240
<v Speaker 1>know Rory loves uh. I mean, he's mentioned going to

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee shop in Santa Monica with his wife before.

1:13:45.200 --> 1:13:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows who he is in LA. They're oblivious. It's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he can sit there read his book and

1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and nobody's gonna bother him. And you know, the other

1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:56.479
<v Speaker 1>thing is too is even if people recognize you in LA,

1:13:56.920 --> 1:14:00.800
<v Speaker 1>there's something here about celebrities. Uh. People are kind of

1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:03.840
<v Speaker 1>used to seeing them out in the wild and they

1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:07.720
<v Speaker 1>generally kind of leave them alone. So yeah, I think

1:14:07.720 --> 1:14:10.400
<v Speaker 1>there's an element to that that people don't quite understand

1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:13.639
<v Speaker 1>how centered this course is in the city. And there's

1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:15.720
<v Speaker 1>all these neighborhoods you can go off and it's not

1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like everybody's staying in the same area. There're gonna be

1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:23.120
<v Speaker 1>people in the Palisades Brentwood, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Hollywood,

1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Culver City. They're going to be coming at the place

1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:27.960
<v Speaker 1>from all these different directions, and you can kind of

1:14:29.000 --> 1:14:32.120
<v Speaker 1>leave the course and not be in that sort of

1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:34.960
<v Speaker 1>herd like tour World. And some players I think are

1:14:35.280 --> 1:14:38.240
<v Speaker 1>like that. They like being with the herd at the hotel.

1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But we know the great ones don't, and they want

1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to be left alone. They need their they know, in

1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a major they need their their quiet time or their

1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:48.280
<v Speaker 1>getaway time. And yeah, go out to dinner. They can

1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.200
<v Speaker 1>actually go out to dinner, although they all bring their

1:14:50.320 --> 1:14:52.960
<v Speaker 1>chef now I know, and there's a very good chance

1:14:52.960 --> 1:14:56.680
<v Speaker 1>they won't be bothered. There's some amazing, amazing things to

1:14:56.720 --> 1:14:59.800
<v Speaker 1>do in terms of foods. So but yeah, that sets

1:14:59.800 --> 1:15:01.840
<v Speaker 1>me up for the last thing, which is is another

1:15:01.920 --> 1:15:05.640
<v Speaker 1>weird one. I'm a little you know, besides obviously the

1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:10.120
<v Speaker 1>location and you know, I've been kind of covering both

1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the architecture, but the surrounds of the golf course are

1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:17.240
<v Speaker 1>just amazing, you know, the homes are crazy, and then

1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the views and the idea that you're on the cusp

1:15:20.000 --> 1:15:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of Beverly Hills u c LA to the West Century City,

1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the towers. You know, everybody's probably getting tired of hearing

1:15:25.280 --> 1:15:26.880
<v Speaker 1>about it, but when you're on the property, it really

1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is spectacular. But I am I am nervous, and I

1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:36.160
<v Speaker 1>will defend my hometown Andy because the last time we

1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:39.439
<v Speaker 1>had a major championship, we had very poor attendance at Riviera.

1:15:39.439 --> 1:15:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It was one of the last majors before Tiger. They

1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:47.320
<v Speaker 1>overpriced the ticket. It was August. People do other things.

1:15:46.920 --> 1:15:50.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a big place, but nobody knows this

1:15:50.160 --> 1:15:50.840
<v Speaker 1>thing is coming.

1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:54.799
<v Speaker 2>There's been no It does seems like it. I noticed

1:15:54.840 --> 1:15:58.360
<v Speaker 2>that with Airbnbs, Like I was, you know, you anytime

1:15:58.600 --> 1:16:01.280
<v Speaker 2>these US opened, you go to you're you know, you're

1:16:01.320 --> 1:16:03.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to we rent a house, you know for these

1:16:03.840 --> 1:16:07.080
<v Speaker 2>US opens, and it's like, uh, you know, you're just

1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:09.439
<v Speaker 2>trying to find the deal. And I'm looking around, like

1:16:09.520 --> 1:16:12.200
<v Speaker 2>close by them, like it's like this is this isn't

1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:14.599
<v Speaker 2>jacked up from their normal rank, right if you look

1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:16.439
<v Speaker 2>at it, you know, a month later, it's like they

1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:17.599
<v Speaker 2>don't even know it's coming.

1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:20.120
<v Speaker 1>They don't. They don't. And I mean I've even talked

1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:24.479
<v Speaker 1>to golfers and and they'll say, now, yeah, what year

1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:29.479
<v Speaker 1>is that again? I go it's in June. It's coming hello. Uh,

1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know what's happened. There's no there's

1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:33.160
<v Speaker 1>no there's no banners on this. You know. We have

1:16:33.240 --> 1:16:36.400
<v Speaker 1>these street signs and uh they tend to put good

1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:40.479
<v Speaker 1>uh charitable things or event things, you know, the Hollywood

1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:42.960
<v Speaker 1>ball season coming on the on this lamp post. There's

1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:45.840
<v Speaker 1>nothing about the US Open. Uh. You know, the Genesis

1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:48.320
<v Speaker 1>sold out this year, So I just want to establish that.

1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:51.200
<v Speaker 1>First of all, yes, Tiger was playing, but the price

1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was actually raised and they did cut off because they

1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:56.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have a quality fan experience at a certain

1:16:56.120 --> 1:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>point That's never happened in my lifetime. And there were

1:16:58.040 --> 1:17:02.080
<v Speaker 1>crowds were fantastic. It was also the one decent week

1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:06.760
<v Speaker 1>of weather we all of January and February, and we're

1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:10.840
<v Speaker 1>not complaining. We needed the rain. But so this is

1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a very expensive open and they've sold you know, two

1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:17.160
<v Speaker 1>thirds of the tickets are going to the members or

1:17:17.200 --> 1:17:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to the corporate world. So I'm just very nervous about

1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:24.120
<v Speaker 1>what this is gonna be like energy wise, We're gonna

1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:27.519
<v Speaker 1>be playing late in the day. Uh, I got you know,

1:17:27.720 --> 1:17:32.240
<v Speaker 1>thank thankfully NBC doesn't have the synchronized swimming trials to

1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:37.160
<v Speaker 1>cut away to. So we're gonna have nothing Olympics. Wow.

1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there'll be some tacky promos to remind us

1:17:39.240 --> 1:17:42.519
<v Speaker 1>about Paris. But I am nervous about what it's going

1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to be like out there in the evenings with with

1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the amount of people and who's out there, and how

1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:51.320
<v Speaker 1>much energy they're giving the players, because already it's a

1:17:51.360 --> 1:17:53.080
<v Speaker 1>tough one in terms of you know, with all these

1:17:53.120 --> 1:17:55.640
<v Speaker 1>back teas, getting close to the getting close to some

1:17:55.680 --> 1:17:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of the greens and teas. So it's just something, you know,

1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you want things I'm looking for and I'm looking for

1:18:01.479 --> 1:18:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that how that fan experience goes and what kind of

1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:09.759
<v Speaker 1>energy is there, And I'm hopeful, but I am nervous

1:18:09.840 --> 1:18:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that that uh, you know, later in the day and people, Yes,

1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:15.439
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on and people might be worried

1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:19.960
<v Speaker 1>about traffic or whatever getting back to their car. I

1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I uh, I think it's something to watch and we'll

1:18:22.240 --> 1:18:24.120
<v Speaker 1>see how that how that plays out.

1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:26.919
<v Speaker 2>If they ride it out long enough, they'll miss the traffic,

1:18:27.080 --> 1:18:28.439
<v Speaker 2>you know with how well well.

1:18:28.320 --> 1:18:30.880
<v Speaker 1>That would be my argument. Yes, correct, We'll be playing

1:18:30.960 --> 1:18:33.000
<v Speaker 1>late on Saturday and Sunday for a while. We know

1:18:33.040 --> 1:18:36.800
<v Speaker 1>they're late Thursday, Friday, let's hope they finish and uh

1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, Saturday Sunday they will be late, and yeah,

1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you'll be you'll and and traffic on the weekends is

1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>is uh is not so bad. But uh but you

1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:47.080
<v Speaker 1>got a long walk to the parking structures down in

1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Century City and all that kind of stuff. You got

1:18:49.160 --> 1:18:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to go over a bridge, and I know how people are.

1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:55.400
<v Speaker 1>They start to ah, we gotta go. You know, it's

1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like the uh, the commercial where they arrive at the

1:18:58.160 --> 1:18:59.760
<v Speaker 1>game and you know they're already wanting to know what

1:18:59.800 --> 1:19:02.920
<v Speaker 1>time they're gonna leave. So uh uh So we'll see

1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:05.600
<v Speaker 1>how that plays out. But uh I I if the

1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>sun comes out, it's gonna be spectacular on TV. And

1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you know the way the bunkers look, uh, you know,

1:19:12.760 --> 1:19:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they've had a lot of time to plan how to

1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>how to show this visually. And I don't think they'll

1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:20.879
<v Speaker 1>do anything that matches your you know, your drone shots,

1:19:20.920 --> 1:19:24.759
<v Speaker 1>but I'm confident that they'll they'll do some great stuff.

1:19:25.200 --> 1:19:27.559
<v Speaker 2>And you gotta turn the saturated You gotta turn the

1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:31.800
<v Speaker 2>saturation down. You gotta, you can't, you just gotta, you

1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:35.120
<v Speaker 2>gotta start by not just auto jacking up the saturation,

1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, actually show something what something looks like.

1:19:39.120 --> 1:19:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's pretty green right for a lot.

1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Of photographers also, you know.

1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it's look you know they uh that's television.

1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>They that people like green, and this place is green.

1:19:49.800 --> 1:19:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Right now. We had a lot of rain and uh,

1:19:51.880 --> 1:19:54.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'm I'm hoping that today it baked out a

1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:59.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit. And uh. Unfortunately the weekend here as as

1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:04.400
<v Speaker 1>very cloud drops, very cloudy and dank. But I you know,

1:20:04.520 --> 1:20:07.040
<v Speaker 1>later in the week it'll it'll be nice. But more importantly,

1:20:07.080 --> 1:20:11.160
<v Speaker 1>there will be no smoke from fires, and there will

1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:15.240
<v Speaker 1>be no thunderstorms that force us into Monday. I'm confident

1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in that. Although I did see some little afternoon thing

1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>on Monday, I don't know. That may have been my

1:20:21.080 --> 1:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>weather app getting confused about it. Rained.

1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:27.840
<v Speaker 2>It rained in my town on Tuesday.

1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we may get a morning drizzle. Let's be clear,

1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:36.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a big difference. So between drizzle and potentially stopping play.

1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:38.880
<v Speaker 1>We won't be we won't be having that. So weather

1:20:40.680 --> 1:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>will will definitely be a story in a different way,

1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>but a great way. I mean, you imagine if they

1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:49.120
<v Speaker 1>were trying to play it at oak Hill this week. Yeah,

1:20:49.160 --> 1:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds like the again. By the time

1:20:51.960 --> 1:20:53.760
<v Speaker 1>this drops, people will know. But the I think the

1:20:53.760 --> 1:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Belmonts in jeopardy and yeah, so we're so we'll focus

1:20:58.479 --> 1:21:02.400
<v Speaker 1>on the positive, sunny beautify California, and I just, uh,

1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait, and I can't wait to hear what

1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>people think. But I'm pretty confident they're gonna They're gonna

1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>have a great, great show to watch.

1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. So who's your pick to win?

1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I think Scotty Shuffler's gonna win. I do believe that.

1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll have we'll see the best major we've

1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:21.559
<v Speaker 1>ever seen from Max Homa. I just think he loves

1:21:21.560 --> 1:21:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the golf course and I think he'll I think he'll

1:21:24.920 --> 1:21:27.640
<v Speaker 1>he'll figure out how to deal with the obvious pressures

1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and distractions, and I think we'll see can't le give

1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it a good run. I really do think he's he's doing.

1:21:33.920 --> 1:21:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Rory will be very dangerous if he can

1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>compartmentalize and learn the golf course. I think he's good

1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:45.719
<v Speaker 1>at at at picking up a golf course pretty quickly.

1:21:45.760 --> 1:21:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But man, it's still I still don't like the rolling

1:21:48.479 --> 1:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in late and I do love the idea that the

1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>way speed's trending, But I I just think that Scott

1:21:54.360 --> 1:21:58.519
<v Speaker 1>he's on a slightly different level right now and and

1:21:58.640 --> 1:22:01.840
<v Speaker 1>rom I yeah, I I just I'm back on that

1:22:01.960 --> 1:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>on some of those t shots, I don't know if

1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:08.719
<v Speaker 1>he has that shot that that that he really feels

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>great turning one over if he has to, I don't know.

1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I've seen many of those though

1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>over time. So uh, but I think I'm most excited that.

1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it's going to be a course.

1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It rewards a lot of different styles and and I

1:22:26.640 --> 1:22:28.599
<v Speaker 1>think that's the most exciting thing. I don't think it's

1:22:28.600 --> 1:22:31.599
<v Speaker 1>going to pigeonhole this into a bomb bomb and gouge

1:22:31.600 --> 1:22:34.760
<v Speaker 1>thing group or anything like that. And uh. And then

1:22:34.760 --> 1:22:37.759
<v Speaker 1>there's some great qualifier stories too. I'm excited about those.

1:22:37.840 --> 1:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>And I mean Stafford getting four four guys in the

1:22:41.400 --> 1:22:46.519
<v Speaker 1>field and Barry the Yeah, so yeah. I watched him

1:22:46.520 --> 1:22:49.639
<v Speaker 1>a little bit at at at Hillcrest on Monday, Omore

1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Morales and really cool story talking to his coach Arman

1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:56.360
<v Speaker 1>at U C L A and UH finished d D

1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.639
<v Speaker 1>D F L in their first tournament in the fall,

1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and UH won the last tournament they played, and you

1:23:02.960 --> 1:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>see Davis qualified for the Mexico Open a one spotter

1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:09.479
<v Speaker 1>shot eleven under. I believe it was at Hillcrest and

1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>has a low round of the Bruins this year at

1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:16.519
<v Speaker 1>the North Course where they play a lot. Weirdly, Yeah,

1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it's mostly USC club and yet U C. L A

1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:21.360
<v Speaker 1>plays there more than then sc don't don't ask me

1:23:21.400 --> 1:23:25.120
<v Speaker 1>why that is. So yeah, he's a he's an interesting

1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>one to keep an eye on if you're you're looking

1:23:27.280 --> 1:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>for for a young player that you've never heard of. Uh,

1:23:31.280 --> 1:23:34.439
<v Speaker 1>and gool representing Mexico. And but yeah, I mean I'm

1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.480
<v Speaker 1>still just blown away by Stanford that is, that's impressive.

1:23:37.479 --> 1:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>And then we'll get to see Gordon Sergeant see what

1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>he does and uh, you know a lot of short

1:23:43.240 --> 1:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>grass around the greens, so we'll see how that, how that,

1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:48.719
<v Speaker 1>how the chipping is and and but it's it's easier

1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:51.519
<v Speaker 1>chipping than I guess this is guess this tricky chipping.

1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:54.519
<v Speaker 1>So I I don't know if I don't know if

1:23:54.520 --> 1:23:56.519
<v Speaker 1>that's a good one to judge somebody on the more

1:23:56.560 --> 1:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought about it after the Masters. So and yeah,

1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Barry the uber driver, I mean how about how about this.

1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but I I think so. So

1:24:06.320 --> 1:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>when we were in the.

1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:10.759
<v Speaker 2>What the Hensonator, Oh.

1:24:10.680 --> 1:24:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's what we're calling for. But I want

1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to know why himself? Yeah yeah, why if we found out?

1:24:17.800 --> 1:24:19.559
<v Speaker 1>You why it's Berry with an E. I haven't I

1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have an article open, I haven't read it.

1:24:21.080 --> 1:24:24.680
<v Speaker 2>But he told what he what do? He appeared on

1:24:24.720 --> 1:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the Shotgun Start. He told just a great story of

1:24:28.200 --> 1:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it was you know, he plays on the

1:24:29.960 --> 1:24:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Asian Tour and one of his first starts in the

1:24:32.080 --> 1:24:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Asian Tour, he got introduced as you know, attempting to

1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>pronounce his name. It came out very handsome. It was.

1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful story. I mean that that's from

1:24:50.960 --> 1:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>five years. It was the near the beginning of the

1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Shotgun Start, but the the very very handsome.

1:24:57.280 --> 1:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, why did you have him on the Shotgun.

1:24:59.479 --> 1:25:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, we were just we were just interested in the

1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>American Plane Nation Tour. You know what that what that

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.880
<v Speaker 2>whole experience was like. And it seems like it's been

1:25:10.200 --> 1:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>quite nice that. I mean, he told the uber driving

1:25:13.160 --> 1:25:16.599
<v Speaker 2>story on that podcast, you know, because what he spent

1:25:16.640 --> 1:25:19.200
<v Speaker 2>whenever he's home, he drives an uber around.

1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but how about this. So we're sitting around the

1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:25.839
<v Speaker 1>little press room at Hillcrest and I, you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>gives me the synopsis and I'm like, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>find out his UBER rating. So I got an email

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday from from Julia Pine. He's a of the USCA

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<v Speaker 1>four point nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's more impressive. That's more impressive than qualifying for the

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<v Speaker 1>US Open. Nobody's a four point nine. No driver gets gets.

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<v Speaker 2>That, having having uh you know, talked to him over

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<v Speaker 2>the years and it communicated with him. He's a lovely guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I could I could foresee him being just like a

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<v Speaker 2>terrific guber driver, like a guy you get you get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the car, You get out of the car

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh what a nice guy. Wow what

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<v Speaker 2>I said? Uh? You know a few years ago, you

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<v Speaker 2>remember Brad Merrick from Kiowa, the club Pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the club Pro. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I grew up playing golf against him and I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen him for years and New Years. I was

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<v Speaker 2>out at a bar, I get in the cab, I

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<v Speaker 2>get into the Uber. It was in the early years

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<v Speaker 2>of Uber and Brad Merricks by driver. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Uber driving is a is actual uh

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<v Speaker 2>an actual occupay, regular occupation for aspiring professional golfers. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think about think about like the I think about

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, in even like two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ten, before Uber was around, you know, the occupation

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<v Speaker 2>was caddying or or waiting tables. Talk about any way,

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<v Speaker 2>better job for somebody trying to play professional golf is

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<v Speaker 2>Uber then then having to wait tables at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>You go practice all day and you you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go wait tables at night, or you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get up the next day after waiting a table, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>versus like sitting in a car and driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you get to kind of quiet your mind. Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you run into somebody that gives you some cash

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<v Speaker 2>for upcoming tournament, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>A future sponsor. You're not in the gym before the

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<v Speaker 1>round with the two behind the lead and doing reflex

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<v Speaker 1>work and and hurting your back and having to withdraw.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just you know, sitting in the car with the

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<v Speaker 1>seat heater on hopefully and uh yeah. Although I was

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<v Speaker 1>shocked when he came on the screen, like geez, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's in good shape, So it didn't really fit the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of the uber driver sitting there just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuffing their face with Cheetos all day in between rides.

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<v Speaker 1>He was ripped.

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<v Speaker 2>He's apparently transformed his game because what we when we

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed him, he wasn't a long hitter, and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's apparently gained like over the last few years tons

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<v Speaker 2>of speed. He's done the speed training, the Patrick Harrington

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<v Speaker 2>yeah even yeah so, but uh but yeah, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>for Barry Henson. He's not a pick. I'm taking, uh

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<v Speaker 2>take Brooks, gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks never never played the golf course, and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't think it matters works for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not, it may not. Okay, Well that's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we didn't really go on a limb with

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<v Speaker 1>either one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's hard to not, well, like my

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, like, it's really hard not to pick one

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<v Speaker 2>of those three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is just on form and we have no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to think there in any way less outstanding at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I for some reason, just something tells me

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<v Speaker 1>there is a little bit of an edge to of

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<v Speaker 1>having played there. But it is about two hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>longer than it was in the back twelves. Uh so

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<v Speaker 1>there is that, but I mean it's it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>same that was only ten years ago. Wasn't that long ago?

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<v Speaker 2>So the other thing is I'm in a one and

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<v Speaker 2>done league and I need to take Brooks and amazing

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<v Speaker 2>real truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, well that's impressive. You haven't used them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's a better choice than Hoylake. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that's but no, I think it'll I think it'll be Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, it'll be a great week.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, Jeff, thank you. Everybody can find your

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, thank you, and thank you for the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>work you've done to highlight Captain Thomas and and all

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<v Speaker 1>the good stuff. And I think you've made people more

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<v Speaker 1>excited about what's what's to.

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<v Speaker 2>Come, appreciate it. Thank you for listening to another edition

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<v Speaker 2>of the Friday Podcast. Today's episode was produced by Matt Rushes.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Matt. As a quick reminder, we will have

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<v Speaker 2>about at the open. We've got the big LACC preview

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<v Speaker 2>for listening to the pod. We will be back later

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<v Speaker 2>this week, Garrett. We'll have another podcast and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back after the US Open to talk about what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks and thank you to be Draddy and we

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<v Speaker 2>hope for a great championship here at Los Angeles Country

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