WEBVTT - The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. It's great to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be doing our show in Green Bay starting

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and first come, first serve

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<v Speaker 2>as far as a studio audience. Once we get to capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>then we will have to close the doors. We'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a meet and greet on Wednesday night at the Bar

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<v Speaker 2>on Home Grown Way. That'll be from four to six

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no admission fee there. Basketball yesterday over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacers are a sneaky good team. I know they're

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<v Speaker 2>facing a banged up Bucks team without Dame Lillard, but

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<v Speaker 2>they win nuggets and overtime over the Clippers. The Knicks,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were going to lose to the Pistons,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was a twenty one to notzhering run

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<v Speaker 2>and the Knicks survive Game one, the Timberwolves over the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then yesterday the Thunder beat the grizz by fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one points. That's the largest Game one victory margin of

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<v Speaker 2>victory in NBA history. Fifty one points, the largest in

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<v Speaker 2>a playoff game since twenty fifteen. And you're watching the

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<v Speaker 2>game and I felt bad for Mike Breen, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>play by play voice, and I'm going, Mike, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to do some Phil You're gonna have to tell

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<v Speaker 2>some stories with Richard Jefferson here and Doris Burke because

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<v Speaker 2>this game is going to get out of hand early.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers somehow were surprised at the physicality of the Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 2>I never understood that. I don't know if I'd ever

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<v Speaker 2>admit that where I go. Yeah, dang man, they play physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Luca played well, but the rest of the team didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hold up there under the bargain, and Minnesota came after

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<v Speaker 2>them and didn't let up and picked up the victory there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you can't lose games at home, can't,

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<v Speaker 2>not first round, can't. And you can't be surprised at

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<v Speaker 2>the physicality of a team there, but they were. But

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<v Speaker 2>Luca did have a respectable game, but you know, Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>had a balance to attack here. Oh, Claoma City, they're

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<v Speaker 2>a cute story. They're no longer a cute story. They're

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<v Speaker 2>a real story. And I think sometimes we get caught

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<v Speaker 2>up and he go, oh that team out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>Oklaoma City, Oh look at them. How many wins do

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<v Speaker 2>they have? They went sixty eight and fourteen. They dominated.

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<v Speaker 2>You got some other players on that team. I know

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to have the MVP in Shay Jalen Williams

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<v Speaker 2>is a rising star. Chaed Holmgren maybe a future Defensive

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the Year winner. They got a really good bench.

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<v Speaker 2>The Thunder no longer a cute story. They're a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>They are They're a real problem. And sometimes you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>teams I mentioned this with Houston. Houston lost to Golden State.

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<v Speaker 2>There are certain teams that go into the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like it's a fact finding mission. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a school trip. You're like, let's go see what that's like. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go into the playoffs and see what that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we can kind of collect our thoughts and

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<v Speaker 2>then get ready to go into next season. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to say that they're not going to beat

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<v Speaker 2>Golden State. I will be surprised if they beat Golden State,

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<v Speaker 2>only because of Golden State has been there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at just Steph Curry, Steph has more

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<v Speaker 2>playoff games than the entire roster. Then you throw in

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond Green, then you throw in Jimmy Butler, then you

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<v Speaker 2>throw in some of these bench guys, then you throw

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<v Speaker 2>in Steve Kerr. It's an incredible advantage for them. And

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<v Speaker 2>you saw with Steph and Playoff Jimmy, they're probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best tandem in the NBA. And I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Luca and Lebron the way they were playing at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the regular season, and I would probably still

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<v Speaker 2>side with them. But probably the general consensus is Steph

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<v Speaker 2>and Playoff Jimmy the best tandem. But the Cabs rolled,

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<v Speaker 2>they beat the Heat, but the Warriors beating the Rockets.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised at that at all. It's just different basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's certain teams. Oklahoma City, they were on a

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<v Speaker 2>fact finding mission last year, then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you go, Okay, what did we learn? Go down through

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<v Speaker 2>history a lot of times you have to lose to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to win. What does it take? What do

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<v Speaker 2>we do, what didn't we do? What do they do

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<v Speaker 2>better than us? And I think that's what you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>with Okacie Cleveland, big question mark there. They were great,

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<v Speaker 2>best team in the East during the regular season. The

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<v Speaker 2>general consensus is what the Boston Celtics, and rightfully so,

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<v Speaker 2>that team is so Deep. It feels like everybody can

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<v Speaker 2>shoot a three. You could probably get the trainer out

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<v Speaker 2>there and he might be able to be respectable from

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<v Speaker 2>three point range. Everybody and then an oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Derek White, you know Olympian. See that's the dangerous part

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<v Speaker 2>of this. When Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum aren't great

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<v Speaker 2>but they're great, that's when you win championships.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Marvin, have we ever disrespected a team like the

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Celtics, And I don't mean that like purposefully, but

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't talk about them at all all season long

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<v Speaker 3>and they were the defending champs with the best starting

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<v Speaker 3>five in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>But it might be a compliment that we've just taken

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<v Speaker 2>them for granted, that there's certain players and certain teams

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<v Speaker 2>that they get elevated and then we go, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>told that story. Now let's move on, because that's really

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the storytelling business. What's the story you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>about the Celtics this year? Man? Can if the good

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<v Speaker 2>Rod Deep Ross, how about Peyton Pritchard? You know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you just we run out of ways to describe somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of these teams you don't look at

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<v Speaker 2>where they are in the playoff seedings. The same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with San Antonio. People would get caught up in oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to be the number one seed and

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<v Speaker 2>have home court advantage. Spurs didn't care. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we use the regular season to get ready for the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain teams are like, we use the regular season to

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<v Speaker 2>make the postseason. Boston uses the regular season, just like

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. They used the first three or four games

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<v Speaker 2>of the regular season for their training camp, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is our preseason, and then they use the regular season

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<v Speaker 2>to get ready for the postseason. And that's a compliment

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<v Speaker 2>to them. All Right, Seaton's not here today, So I'm guessing, Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing the poll question? I do have the

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<v Speaker 2>odds to win the NBA Championship? OKC is your favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's the Celtics, and then a distant third the Cabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Really distant fourth is the Warriors, and then even further

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<v Speaker 2>down the list is the Lakers. It does feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a two race, two team race. But the Cavaliers.

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<v Speaker 2>Cavaliers are a lot of fun. And I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>last night. You might go, who's this guy who's lighting

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<v Speaker 2>up the Miami Heat. Ti Jerome. Well, Ty Jerome played

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<v Speaker 2>for Virginia and I remember when he was playing and

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<v Speaker 2>mcleven and I went back and forth because he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>this Virginia team isn't good. I said, man, this they

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<v Speaker 2>can shoot, they can shoot. And Ti Jerome, who's that?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't know who he is, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know he can shoot. All of a sudden, Ti Jerome

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<v Speaker 2>pops up and you go, I'll be damned. It took

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<v Speaker 2>a while, but he had a couple of games this

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<v Speaker 2>year that got on the radar and I went that dude,

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<v Speaker 2>and they went at Tyler Hero last night. It was

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<v Speaker 2>not nice. It was not nice. That's where you needed

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<v Speaker 2>parental guidance because I'm going, damn. Everybody wanted Tyler Hero

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<v Speaker 2>guardian last night. But Ti Jerome went at him. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know they did a great job. Great job, Yes, poet, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Had to look up Ti Jerome. I couldn't lie to you.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been on four teams in six years. He's played

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<v Speaker 4>six seasons and only started ten games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, but he can shoot. He can. He got

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<v Speaker 2>some buckets. He had twenty eight points and win. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the most by any Cavalier in their first NBA playoff

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<v Speaker 2>game since Kyrie had thirty against the Celtics back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen. Stat of the day, stat of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>that past stat of the day, stat of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Day, here comes that what stat of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, Thank you, Will Ferrell. Stat of the day, brought

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<v Speaker 2>to you by Panini America. And you try not to

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<v Speaker 2>get caught up in one loss, you know, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ja Moran says, you know, we won't play this way

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<v Speaker 2>next time around against Okay, see wow, stop the presses.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't play that badly. You're gonna play a little better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost one of those where he could say if

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<v Speaker 2>they lose by fifteen, see I told you we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play that bad. We're improving here. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>there was no pulse. Yeah, the body that there was

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<v Speaker 2>no pulse. There was a corpse. But sometimes you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>these big blowouts and then you know these teams flipped

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<v Speaker 2>the switch on you, and maybe have that with Memphis.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it, just because I think Okac knows,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be great. We were great. Continue to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't take anybody for granted, and don't be surprised. The

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers were surprised. That's what surprises me. Wait a minute, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, you know, and it's not like Memphis is

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota is Memphis Minnesota. They can play for a title,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where you just you can't be goofing around here.

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<v Speaker 2>Take something for granted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Mark Lakers, Hey, this is the team that beat

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<v Speaker 3>the Denver Nuggets last year in the playoffs. They took

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<v Speaker 3>jokij out. So why are we surprised that nas Reed

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<v Speaker 3>and Julius Randall are being physical with them? Did he

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<v Speaker 3>not see the Scott report?

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<v Speaker 2>But then JJ Riddick says hey, and Lebron said that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of surprised at their physicality. There should

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<v Speaker 2>be no surprises right now. You play together long enough,

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<v Speaker 2>you got you know, Luca playing well. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>think that they have a chance to play, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for in the Western Conference finals. I mean, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>But it comes down to defense. But I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>physicality was going to be the difference. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Uh poll questions don.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, we're a roll with this one from Paulie. I

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<v Speaker 6>think the Thunder will win the NBA title? Sure, too early, okay, yeah, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>Or too early okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're better than the Celtics. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're a great team. This is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those where they don't get a lot of publicity, just

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<v Speaker 2>like the Cavs didn't get a lot. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>the media steers you where they want to steer you.

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<v Speaker 2>They guide you. So when you turn on ESPN or Fox,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to guide you to where they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>guide you any place else maybe the Nicks, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna guide you to well, Memphis because Jaw's in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Where else are they guiding you? Therefore, you really don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a unless you watch these games. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a good opinion, a strong opinion on a team because

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, okay, see I see the highlights. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, SGA and he's really good. But that's all

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then you'll see some of these other

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<v Speaker 2>teams and you'll go, oh, wow, I was watching the Pistons, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty good. It's because the media will hold your

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<v Speaker 2>hand and take you where they want to because that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the stories are. And we do a disservice to

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<v Speaker 2>some of these other teams that play really well. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I'm Glad Sga is getting recognized because he

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<v Speaker 2>has been great and players will say this, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>said this, Jokers the best player in the game. But

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<v Speaker 2>they're happy that Sga is going to be the MV pick,

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<v Speaker 2>like he he deserves to win the MV pick because

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<v Speaker 2>of what the team did during the regular season. So

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<v Speaker 2>that'll give you a sense of the players know. But

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<v Speaker 2>is anybody talking about the Indiana Piecers. The WNBA team

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<v Speaker 2>in Indiana gets more, you know, headlines, credit attention than

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacers do. The Pacers are a really good team,

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<v Speaker 2>but once again, the media does not guide you there.

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<v Speaker 2>The only member of the media who does is Pat

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<v Speaker 2>McAfee because he's in Indianapolis. But there will be some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting stories that come out. And if you haven't watched Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>yes they did blow the lead the Knicks twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>to nothing run. But Kate Cunningham is real. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a real star. Yeah, Paully, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't want to bring this up so early, but I

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<v Speaker 4>was watching thunder Grizzlies. I'm just looking at that. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know all the Grizzlies players and like, oh, Scotty

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<v Speaker 4>Pippen June on the team, and I think he got

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<v Speaker 4>the start for the Grizzlies. He spells his first name

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<v Speaker 4>s c O T t y. His father, Scotty Pippen

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<v Speaker 4>Senior spells it s c O T T I E

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<v Speaker 4>m hm. That blew my mind. I always thought if

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<v Speaker 4>you named your son after you, that exact same spelling of.

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<v Speaker 2>The name back to you. Okay, thank you, Paulin break

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<v Speaker 2>it down. Yeah, it's worth break breaking into programming. Wo no, young,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess who stell of the day? Style of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>start of the day, stell of the day. This is

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<v Speaker 5>the stele of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, Paulie, would you stay on that story? Please? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I E?

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<v Speaker 2>Or why with Scottie Pippen Junior the third Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>in your head though, is he junior? No, it's gone?

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<v Speaker 5>Is he?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he junior?

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<v Speaker 7>He is Scottie Pippen junior.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's s c O T T Y again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, his father I E I E E Yes.

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>I found that kind of interesting as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that poly mention, that's not a good sign.

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<v Speaker 5>No it's not.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Fritzy, Fritzy sent this to me. He was a Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Luca's number is seventy seven. I go okay, And do

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<v Speaker 2>you realize seventy seven days after they traded Luca, the

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<v Speaker 2>Mavericks were eliminated from the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 7>Fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I go okay. My thing numerology, I know it is,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, love it, I know. But did you notice

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<v Speaker 2>that no one responded to you as well?

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<v Speaker 5>I totally annoyed.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't get a k or a thumbs up or

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<v Speaker 6>a smiley thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was way too busy for some rey. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I was doing, but I'm sure I was

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<v Speaker 2>way too busy to then, you know, very nice respond

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<v Speaker 2>to your seventy seven seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chimberwolves beat the Lakers Minnesota made a franchise playoff

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<v Speaker 2>record twenty one to three pointers. So when JJ Reddick

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<v Speaker 2>and Lebron say, hey, you know, we were surprised at

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<v Speaker 2>the physicality of that, well, okay, but what about the

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<v Speaker 2>three pointers that you gave up twenty one Let's talktor

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Haynes senior NBA insider and host of the Haynes

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<v Speaker 2>Briefs show on YouTube. He is covering the Bucks and Pacers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he's going to go to the Rockets and

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors. Worst first round lost so far turned in

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<v Speaker 2>by who.

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<v Speaker 10>Hmm, Well, I mean I think you definitely got I

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<v Speaker 10>mean the worst. I think you say the worst by

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<v Speaker 10>a point differential. You can say to Memphis Grizzlies. You

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<v Speaker 10>know the way they lost to Oklahoma City. But I

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<v Speaker 10>think most people believe that Oklahoma City is going to

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<v Speaker 10>get out of the first round relatively unscathed. But the

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<v Speaker 10>team you just talked about right now, the Lakers and

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<v Speaker 10>the Minnesota Timbwolves, even though that's not I understand the

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<v Speaker 10>Lakers have the higher seed, but I think that's a

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<v Speaker 10>prey even matchup. And I think when you look at

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<v Speaker 10>the athleticism, you look at the dog of Anthony Edwards,

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<v Speaker 10>and you just look how they went into LA and

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<v Speaker 10>took care of business in the threes. Those threes were

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<v Speaker 10>opened up by driving penetration overhelping Anthony Edwards would be

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<v Speaker 10>able to get to whatever he wanted to get to

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<v Speaker 10>on the court, and it was setting up guys and

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<v Speaker 10>guys found the rhythm and once they found it, they

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<v Speaker 10>didn't let go of that rhythm.

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<v Speaker 8>So the Lakers have some issues for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The Memphis loss like it was laughable, Like after a while,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just going, I mean, does Memphis have any pride here?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we see teams turn it around, get

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<v Speaker 2>blown out, and then they come back and they'll make

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<v Speaker 2>it competitive, maybe win that game. But Oka C seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have learned something from last year like that. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like they understand, you know, how to be a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff team. I don't know if you have them going

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<v Speaker 2>to the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 10>Put me on the spot, DP, I haven't made a selection. Nobody,

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<v Speaker 10>nobody has ever asked me yet for my prediction. I

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<v Speaker 10>got them in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Clint Waits you know have started, Chris, you know how

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<v Speaker 2>this works. You can't wait till you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, usually, DP, Usually that's how it works. Like if

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<v Speaker 10>you don't get asked, because now, because now you get

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<v Speaker 10>to see these games, go on to see a trend

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<v Speaker 10>and then somebody they might ask you in the semi

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<v Speaker 10>finals round, then I'll have a better gaze.

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<v Speaker 8>Then I'll look much more smart, smarter, and brighter than.

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<v Speaker 2>You give me your two favorites to win.

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<v Speaker 10>The favorite two favorites, I would say, okay, see come

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<v Speaker 10>out the West and Boston to come out the East.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then give me your other two. Following them.

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<v Speaker 10>The other two I would have to go with. God's tough,

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<v Speaker 10>you know. I want to say Denver. I want to,

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<v Speaker 10>but there's been so much the team is different, changing

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<v Speaker 10>of a coach. I think that series with the Clippers

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<v Speaker 10>is going to go seven games. I don't know who's

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<v Speaker 10>coming out. I want to say Denver.

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<v Speaker 8>DP.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't hold me to that. Please, don't hold me to that.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to say Denver. But in the East, I

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<v Speaker 10>understand Cleveland had the best record over there for the

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<v Speaker 10>most part. Oh boy, there are about a few other

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<v Speaker 10>teams that I can see making noise in the East.

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<v Speaker 10>I think if New York gets on the run, they

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<v Speaker 10>can do some things. I think if Damian Lillard gets back,

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<v Speaker 10>I think the Bucks and Giannis can do some things.

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<v Speaker 10>It's tougher in the East for me, DP, I will say,

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<v Speaker 10>I will say between New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And Milwaukee, a team not in the playoffs, the Atlanta Hawks,

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<v Speaker 2>the Trey Young situation. Yeah, you look at his numbers

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<v Speaker 2>and you go God those are great numbers, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what kind of I mean. I can watch

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<v Speaker 2>him play, but it just seems like he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>put up really good numbers for a team that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>really cares about. And I wonder does he need to

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<v Speaker 2>be on another team to show how good he can

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<v Speaker 2>really be, how clutch he can be playing in big moments.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, like Dame Lillard, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a fair comparison, but we look at Dame and go, God,

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing great and meaningless games for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden he gets traded and

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<v Speaker 2>it's at the latter part of his career. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the Hawks are at that point where they yo.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe we're better off without Trey Young. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think?

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<v Speaker 8>So?

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<v Speaker 10>I had Trey on my show, The Hainsbury Show on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 10>Everybody check it out. I had him on my show

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<v Speaker 10>last week and I asked him about that DP, just

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<v Speaker 10>about where he's at with the organization, with his career,

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<v Speaker 10>and he said he's.

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<v Speaker 8>In a good spot.

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<v Speaker 10>He said he knew that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 10>speculation once the Hawks went to a younger core had

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<v Speaker 10>the number one pick. He knew there was gonna be

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<v Speaker 10>speculation about his future, but he said he bought in.

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<v Speaker 10>He took the you know, Zach number one pick. He

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<v Speaker 10>brought him to his hometown in Oklahoma to show him around,

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<v Speaker 10>to spend some time with him right after Zach was drafted,

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<v Speaker 10>just to get him engaged.

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<v Speaker 8>And so he's somebody.

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<v Speaker 10>Who again just just told to me about a week

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<v Speaker 10>and a week and a half ago that he's down

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<v Speaker 10>with the process. He wants to see this Atlanta Hawks

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<v Speaker 10>squad turn the corner, and he wants to be a

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<v Speaker 10>pivotal partner. And then dp he changed his game this

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<v Speaker 10>past season like he was more I think we know

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<v Speaker 10>that trade is a great facilitator, but he modified his

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<v Speaker 10>game like it wasn't just shoot first trade. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>this was a guy who was getting guys involved. And

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<v Speaker 10>so that that speaks to his maturity, and that speaks

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<v Speaker 10>to you know, him trying to empower his teammates. But

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<v Speaker 10>with that being said, there definitely are teams out there

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<v Speaker 10>who are monitoring his situation and trying to see if

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<v Speaker 10>there's going to become a point this all season where

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<v Speaker 10>that he can be had and where he can be

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<v Speaker 10>moved because he's definitely a guy who want. Like Trey

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<v Speaker 10>is one of the most competitive guys in this league.

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<v Speaker 10>When he went to that conference finals a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 10>played against the you know, he wanted, he wanted to

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<v Speaker 10>continue on. He wanted the organization to do things, to

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<v Speaker 10>make moves to keep the team on the trajectory. Now

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<v Speaker 10>they took it a little backstep of the you know

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<v Speaker 10>in recent years. He wants to get back to that point.

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<v Speaker 10>But as of now, DP, I can say I haven't

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<v Speaker 10>heard anything on Trey side that will lead me to

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<v Speaker 10>believe that he wants out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Yannis finish his career in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think so. I don't think so. I just

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<v Speaker 10>you know, this is going to be a pivotal playoff.

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<v Speaker 10>This the twenty twenty five playoffs for the Milwaukee Bucks.

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<v Speaker 10>It's going to be pivotal, you know, will if they

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<v Speaker 10>don't get to the finals, win the finals, or even

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<v Speaker 10>make a deep run, you can probably see some wholesale

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<v Speaker 10>changes going on in Milwaukee from you know, you can

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<v Speaker 10>go from coaching staff, from front office to the players,

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<v Speaker 10>like it can be a pretty big significant wholesale if

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<v Speaker 10>Milaukee Bucks don't make a significant run this postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you see them trading Joannis?

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<v Speaker 10>I could see them going in a different direction, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I can see that possibility if things go sour this postseason,

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<v Speaker 10>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Chris Haynes, senior NBA insider, host of the Haynes

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<v Speaker 2>Briefs show on YouTube. He's covering Bucks Pacers for Game

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<v Speaker 2>two and then heading to the Rockets and the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Warriors winning the game against Houston and

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<v Speaker 2>then we see that playoff experience that they have and

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<v Speaker 2>Golden State, to me, is a fascinating situation because can

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<v Speaker 2>you do this? Can you win four games? Can that group?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because that's what it takes every one of

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<v Speaker 2>these series, you can say, are you able to win four?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think they I think they could go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Western Conference Finals. And I don't know if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>would be surprised, but would you be more surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors went to the Western Conference Finals or the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers did.

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<v Speaker 10>I would be more surprised as the Lakers went to

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<v Speaker 10>the Western Conference Finals because the Golden State Wars, they

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<v Speaker 10>still have their nucleus in place, and they've upgraded in

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<v Speaker 10>Jimmy Butler, somebody who fits seamlessly in what they're trying

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<v Speaker 10>to do on the offensive end and defensive end.

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<v Speaker 8>The Lakers, we knew there was going to be some

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 8>growing pains.

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<v Speaker 10>You're talking about two Hall of Fame basketball players, but

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 10>they have very similar ways of playing the game and

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 10>they both require the ball and it's worked better than

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 10>what I thought when I'm talking about Lebron James and

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 10>Luca doctors. But we're talking about going to State, man,

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 10>they're just plugging in.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.360
<v Speaker 8>You know. They Jimmy Butler with.

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<v Speaker 10>Somebody who could fit, and he saw what he did,

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.479
<v Speaker 10>clutch baskets after clutch baskets, making plays, and he's somebody

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 10>that doesn't have to take a lot of shots to

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 10>be efficient. And so I think if you know, talking

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 10>about the Lakers and Warriors, I think the Warriors will

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 10>have an easier path to get to the get to

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 10>the finals than the Lakers.

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Best in basketball right now is who.

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 10>Are we talking about in the playoffs or overall?

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's do playoffs?

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 8>DP.

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 10>You know what, DP, You're really good at what you

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 10>do because you know this is this is why, this

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 10>is why you get a lot out of Charles Barkley.

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 10>You know, you know how to answer. You know how

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 10>to ask the right questions. You never know what you're

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 10>going to ask and it requires an answer.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me say, now you were stalling with the compliment.

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 2>I see right through you, Chris.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 10>Okay, this works here, that's why you do.

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a better tandem not in the

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>playoffs than in the playoffs? No?

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 10>I can't say that, Okay, and I would get ridiculed

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 10>for even saying there's a better tantent that's not in

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 10>the playoffs, because if they were, they would be at

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 10>the playoffs.

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 2>You're stalling once again by saying regular season play homes.

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 10>Okay, let's let's allow me to go. I don't want

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 10>to disrespect the champions.

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 8>Allow me to go. Jason Tatum Jaylen Brown? Is that safe?

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 8>Is that safe? After DP?

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 2>But I don't want safe. Do you really feel that

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>right now the best tandem in basketball is Tatum and

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Brown over Jimmy Steph, Luca Lebron.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 8>The best talent in basketball pound for pal is No,

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 8>we're not.

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>We're just best tandem.

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Will you stop?

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 2>You're better than this.

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 7>Lebron?

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<v Speaker 8>Luca?

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, see that's not that hard.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 8>It actually was.

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<v Speaker 2>Which team did the best job of tanking for Cooper Flag.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what it was.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 10>There was a lot of teams that had a really

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 10>good job. You know, I'm going to go with the

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 10>Utah Jazz. They let it be known pretty early on.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 10>They put out a They put out a release and

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 10>just basically said, these seven guys aren't playing for the

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<v Speaker 10>rest of the season.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, it was these minor injuries.

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>The NBA Awards season, you have to play at least

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 2>sixty five games. I was wondering Jared Jackson Junior. I

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>thought was gonna win the Defensive Player of the Year.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>He's not one of the finalists here.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 8>How many games did he plays?

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 2>He played seventy four, but he's not one. So it

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even one of those where because it's that super

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Max deal. If he wins Defensive Player of the Year again,

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and I thought with Victor wen Been Yama out, then

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 2>he was the favorite. He's not even one of I

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>got Dyce and Daniels, Draymond.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 5>Dra Well d P.

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<v Speaker 10>Draymond's had a phenomenal season. But you know, Dyson Daniels

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 10>leads the league in steals. Evan Mobley I would have

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 10>you know, I felt like all along Evan Mobley might

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 10>have been the front runner to win that award award

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 10>what he's done with Yeah, I do think I think

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 10>so as well. I think he's the favorite. But Jared Jackson,

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 10>you know, it was a tough this was a tough

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 10>one this year. And and DP, I'm telling you I

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 10>don't have a vote this season, which I'm glad because

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 10>DP around this time, you know, players that have those

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 10>claus in their contract, they start to call me around

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 10>the last two weeks of the season, Hey, you know

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 10>my situation, who are you voting for it?

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 8>And it just puts me in a tough spot.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 10>I'm not gonna name names, but I've had multiple players

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 10>call me constantly over the path last you know, the

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 10>lab but the last two weeks of the season, just

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 10>to get a gauge, and I'm like, damn, man, that's

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 10>that's tough about to.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Be anybody try to buy your vote, like saying, hey,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Chris uh Man, I got these new Jordans and what

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 2>changes do you wear? Or hey, you know once you

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>go out go out to dinner, you know, maybe made

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>me go to Cabo. I'll make sure you take care

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of you.

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 10>They haven't said that they haven't tried to buy it.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 10>But what they did do they do? They do try

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 10>to propose an appearance.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 10>Hey, you know they the way they say it, like, hey,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 10>you know what, you have a nice show. I could

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 10>think about coming home if.

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Great to talk to you DP any time.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 8>Man, you take care of brother.

0:29:53.920 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Best tandem in the NBA is who Luca?

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 10>All right?

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure, thank you, Chris.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.440
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0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.160
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0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:35.480
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<v Speaker 2>Why do so many opinions seem to shift based on

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff that's not from actual games that these players play.

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<v Speaker 7>It's college the pro Dan, That's what makes it so

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 7>so difficult. You're seeing guys play in college against players

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 7>who will not be in the National Football League, so

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 7>you're not getting apples to apples. And then some games

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 7>you want to watch an offensive tackle, but the defensive

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 7>ends going on the right side or side opposite where

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 7>the player you want the one on one to be,

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 7>so you get little snippets, okay, snapshots here and there

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 7>of a player against another great player. That's why senior

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 7>bowl practices are so important because you're getting good on good.

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 7>You don't get that in college on a regular basis,

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 7>so a lot of times the stats can.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 5>Be skewed one way.

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 7>You can have great numbers against I call am aog

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 7>s DAN another occupation. Guys, that's what they are. You know,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 7>they're aogs. That's what you go up against in college.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 7>I can win that phrase years ago. That's what it

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 7>is because that's college football. That's the same thing when

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 7>you talk about high school. It's tough to go from

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 7>one level to the next and be accurate with your evaluation.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 7>So when you end today, it's over evaluation too, because

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 7>you're talking about so much time between the end of

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 7>the season until late April that you do kind of

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 7>overthink it and you do factor in things that maybe

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 7>shouldn't be as heavily weighed because it's so much time

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 7>and it is level to a different level, and you

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 7>have to look at everything possible to try to make

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 7>a good evaluation. Certainly, Dan, a lot of scouts believe,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 7>and funeral managers later in the draft, take the talented kids.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 7>Bill Polli and Hall of Fame were always told him, no,

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 7>take the talented guys later in the draft. The guys

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 7>are call him under achievers, Dan, but they have a

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 7>big time skill set and for one reason or another,

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 7>they got dinged in the process a bit. Take those

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 7>kind of guys in the fifth, sixth, seventh round or

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 7>bring him in his undrafted free agents.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>How do you grade Travis Hunter considering there's two positions.

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 7>He's it's a hard decision on wide receiver and corner

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 7>when you have other players that are fully invested in

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 7>that one spot. So you say, Okay, Travis didn't play

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 7>just wide receiver, he didn't play just corner. He was

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 7>out there every play, every snap. That to me prevents

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 7>him from being as good at one or the other

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 7>that he could be.

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 5>So even with that said, Dan.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 7>He's my number one wide receiver and he's my number

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 7>one corner, and it's amazing that he would just focus

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 7>on one position, how great he could be. So to me,

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 7>Travis is as unique as any player in the history

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 7>of the draft because he is going to play both ways.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Right away, dion said it perfectly.

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 7>You're not going to have a drive at the end

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 7>of the first half, or a drive in the fourth quarter,

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 7>or two drives in the fourth quarter, settling that game

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 7>that outcome and have Travis Hunter standing on the sidelines

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 7>when our cornerbacks are getting beaten in the quarterbacks, driving

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 7>his team right down the field against my defense. You

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 7>can't have that. So Dionna is perfectly correct. It's a

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 7>thousand percent correct on that this kid's got to play

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:21.479
<v Speaker 7>both ways.

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you love or love love Shador Sanders?

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 7>Like really love Shador Sanders. I tried to be loyal

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 7>to what like I said August and what I thought

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 7>throughout their careers. And I understand if you want Dan

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 7>somebody who looks the part. I call them ltpeers. That's

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 7>what they are. They're ltpers. There's a couple other guys

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 7>that that's positioned that are more physically gifted. Okay, when

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 7>I talk about arm strength, when I talk about just

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 7>imposing size, the rocket arm, the four six speed. There

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 7>are other quarterbacks that have that, Dan, if you want that,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 7>take those guys. If you want a kid who can

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 7>just surgically take a team down the field, pick you apart,

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 7>see things, recognize things, diagnose, make decisions that are sound. Also,

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 7>get the ball to accurate points and precise points to

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 7>a receiver, and hang in tough in that pocket, take

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 7>hits and keep getting up. Don't point fingers, don't assign blame.

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 7>Win football games. He didn't have a running game for

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 7>two years of Colorado. Dan, his leading rusher, upset it

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 7>for the last month, his leading rusher the last two years.

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 5>The two top running.

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 7>Backs in this draft, genty and Hampton, would have had

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 7>more yards in a game.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 5>And a half then they had the whole year.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 7>Think about that and an offensive line, Dan, you saw

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 7>that offensive line that was a bad group in twenty

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 7>twenty three, a little bit better in twenty four. But

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 7>bottom line is he had no chance, and a lot

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:39.760
<v Speaker 7>of those snaps he had no shot.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 5>So I'd give him a lot of credit, Dan, But.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 7>If he's not the guy that you want physically, and

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 7>you can't reconcile taking a guy that high, I get it.

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 7>But does that not mean that, hey, in the mid

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 7>late first round, he can't be a heck of a pick.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 7>And all this notion too, Dan, Well, if you love them,

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 7>or you'll like them, whatever, if you'll just like them,

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 7>you can't take them. Well, I give you an example.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 7>In nineteen eighty four, Dan, my first year at ESPN,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 7>I had Boomer Assias and the third highest rated player

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 7>on my board.

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 5>Right now, Schador is at five. By the way.

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 7>Okay, so say Shador goes in the late first think

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 7>it was in the second what an idiot Kuiper is right?

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 7>He had Well, guess what Boomer was. Three Bengals had

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 7>three picks in the first round. Then I'm sitting there,

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 7>first year at ESPN. You know what's going through my head.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 7>I'm one and done. I'm sitting there with Book, I'm

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 7>sitting there with Chris Berman, Boomer and Bob Lee. I'm

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 7>thinking now I'm not gonna be back for the nineteen

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 7>eighty five draft. My third highest rated players there, and

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 7>the Bengals passed them three times, Dan, and two of

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 7>those three were bus They took him in the second round. Now,

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 7>according to that philosophy, if you didn't like him, enough

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 7>to take him with your first three picks in there.

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 7>Why are you taking him in the second round. He's

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 7>gonna be your quarterback. He's gonna be the guy, whether

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 7>he was the first second round or he's your guy

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 7>moving forward. You didn't even like him enough to take

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 7>ahead of Ricky Hunley, Petekotch and Brian Bladoes. Okay, so

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 7>again I don't buy into any of that nonsense. Brent

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 7>Fahr was like highly rated player, went in the second round, right,

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 7>look what happened with him. Aaron Rodgers was supposed to

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 7>go number one three full of draft, the twenty four

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 7>the six of the eight sliding picks in terms of

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 7>my rankings over the last yeah, since nineteen seventy, Dan,

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 7>I want all the way back to nineteen seventy. Six

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 7>of the eight hit. Six of the eight sliding quarterbacks hit.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 7>So maybe Schador will be one of the six that

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 7>does really well.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Mel Kuiper, Draft Expert, forty second NFL Draft,

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.479
<v Speaker 2>and you can see ESPN with every pick there that'll

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 2>be Thursday through Saturday, it'll be a mel and Field Yates,

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Mike Greenberg the First Draft podcast as well with Mel

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Kiper help me understand this that I know we get it.

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 2>We fall in love with quarterbacks. But if I say

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 2>to a team that guy right there that you're going

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>to take, it's not a quarterback, but he's going to

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>be a future Hall of Famer. But instead, you'll roll

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the dice on cam Ward, and cam can be maybe

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 2>he's a Hall of Famer. But if you said Travis Hunter,

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Abdul Carter, you know there's a couple of guys in

0:36:56.400 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 2>here that you go. Chances are they could be the

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>safest picked and be a future Hall of Famer. But

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna roll the dice on cam Ward. He explain

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 2>the logic there at the top of the draft. It's

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>a arm talent, Dan, it's the trades. It's that skill

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>set that Brian Callahan. I listened to an interview with

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Brian Callahan and he.

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 7>Said, I want a quarterback doing everybody in the stadium

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 7>knows we're throwing a ball, can throw the ball and

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 7>deliver a pass and complete it. I want a guy

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.919
<v Speaker 7>that's wired, right. I want a guy that certainly you know.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 5>Can be not just good.

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 7>Because he said he said just good, just good, it's

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 7>not good enough, Dan, It's been told to us.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 5>Listen to what they're saying. I don't want to go.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 5>That's just good.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 7>They want Joe Burrow, they want Jaydan Dan, he mentioned

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 7>Joe Burrow and Jaydon Daniels in an interview. That's what

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 7>he's shooting for. He's not shooting I said this for

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 7>the last couple of years, Dan, The singles and double

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 7>days for quarterbacks are over. This is and even maybe

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 7>even a triple. You want a Grand Slam or a

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 7>home runner. You don't want that guy, Dan. So what

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 7>they're doing now is they're just keeping taking shots. They're

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 7>taking shots. If my guy's not a triple, triple double

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 7>or a triple, a home runner, Grand Slam, he's just

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 7>a double or single, just good. Then I got to

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 7>get better. I got to get better. And the one

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 7>phrase that came out of everybody's mouth this last couple

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 7>of years is I want a quarterback, my quarterback to

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 7>play at consistently high level. Well they aren't looking at

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 7>great then, right, Yeah, consistently high level?

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 5>Who does that?

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 7>Dan Patrick does it every day because he's a Hall

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 7>of Famer, bottom line knows, does these these quarterbacks do

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 7>it every day? Consistently high level? Dan, And that's where

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 7>again you look at what we're doing here. If we

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 7>got a quarterback and we think he could be good,

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 7>but we got to get better. This kid has the

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.240
<v Speaker 7>arms talent. Shador Sanders doesn't have the rocket arm. Doesn't

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 7>that have the four to six speeding, This is the

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 7>six three two thirty. Cam Ward has the rocket arm,

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 7>has maneuverability and creativity. The GM was with Patrick Mahomes.

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 7>Patrick Mahomes has a lot of creativity and a live arm.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 7>They all see a little bit elements of the quarterback

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 7>they were with.

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 5>With a quarterback they're.

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 7>Going to select, and I think they see some elements

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 7>there of what Mahomes does to the way cam Ward does.

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 5>Shouldar doesn't do it that way. That's why cam Warden

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 5>goes I'm.

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Like, are you sure that cam Ward is going

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 2>to be more successful or as successful as Travis Hunter?

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 5>No? No, I don't think anybody can.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Be sure of. So might not take that guy? That's

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>a generational talent there. This is what I don't understand.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, you can't do you have to have It's the

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 7>most important position in all sports, This quarterback in the NFL. Okay,

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 7>so you got to keep taking chances. You're always say,

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 7>if you don't have that quarterback, Dan, you're spinning your wheels.

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 7>They got Joe Burrow in Cincinnati, didn't make the playoffs. Okay,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 7>so you are you gonna have all these pieces? That's

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 7>what they said. And I was a big Trent Dilfer supporter.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 7>Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Ironically, you're in Baltimore, right.

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 5>My homes have worn and raised in Baltimore.

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 7>I right, how it all came full circle for me, Dan,

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 7>But people say, well, you needed everything around. They'd let

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.879
<v Speaker 7>the Trent Dilfer go. They cut him loose the next

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 7>year for Elvis Kirback. They wanted to get better. Okay,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 7>they felt like, okay, we need everything around Trent. But

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 7>he galvanized that team. He was the true leader. He

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.479
<v Speaker 7>was the difference maker on a team. They were one nowhere.

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 7>T Trent took over that year. Okay, and he let

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 7>them all those wins. But it wasn't good enough even then.

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 7>Think about that, Dan, it was a long time ago.

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 7>It wasn't even good then. They had a super Bowl

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 7>winning quarterback. They kicked them to the curb to try

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 7>to get better. This has been going this thought process,

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 7>Dan has been going on a long time. The good

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 7>isn't good enough at the quarterback position in the NFL.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I need you to you gotta pace yourself because you

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>got to get ready for a Thursday. Here, Mel, I

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 2>mean you're you're in first round mode right now.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't know about that. Dan, the voice that always

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 7>goes by, You're right by Thursday. I get all fired

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 7>up this week and they start yelling and screaming, and

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 7>by Thursday, Friday and Saturday you got nothing left. So

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm with you. But hey, Dan, I could listen to

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 7>you say pace it. I've been listening to you say

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 7>pace it for about hell of a year's day we've

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 7>been together.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 5>Do I ever, Dan? Listen to Dan Patrick?

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I know. I think it's interesting though,

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 2>that your mock draft is saying this, this is your potential.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 2>This is how you grade them, not what the philosophy

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>is of the teams. Is that correct?

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, philosophy?

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 7>You want positions like I say, don't take a running

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 7>back in the first But I'm not going to grade

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 7>a kid like Ashton Genty or Amari and Hampton from

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 7>North Carolina and put him as my six fifth player

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 7>because I don't agree with taking your running back in

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 7>the first you great, I'm based on their ability, and

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 7>that's why all those running backs were rated high. I

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 7>have a philosophy that people said was idiotic, Dan, and

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 7>now they're all agreeing with it. They all agree with it.

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 10>Now.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 7>You notice that how that's come full circle too. They

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.839
<v Speaker 7>all said I was a nut. Now they say, oh,

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, you shouldn't really draft a running back in

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 7>the first round unless you're one of those great teams

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 7>that just is missing the running back, or that team

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 7>won the CUSP that's just missing a running back. Tell

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 7>me a team Dan in the top ten right now

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 7>doesn't think they're going to be a pretty good team

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 7>this coming year. Tell me a team that thinks you're

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 7>going to be picking first next year. Tell me a

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 7>team going into next year's this coming season it thinks, oh,

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 7>we're going to be the worst team in the league

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 7>next year. Tell me a coach and that building or

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 7>a player in that building they were a GM or

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 7>an older that believes that. Okay, so to me, look

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 7>at Tennessee. They were within a whisker last year of

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 7>beating Chicago opening week of being the Jets. The second

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 7>week they ended up beating Houston. They had a lot

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 7>of games where they're just a mistake here or or

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 7>a block that wasn't made, or a drop pass whatever

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 7>it may, or penalty or whatever, or an interception to turnover.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 7>So again, this is a fine line, Dan, Washington went

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 7>from being a team that was nothing to be because

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 7>they had to hit with Jaden Daniels. And that tells

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 7>you what we talk about a quarterback. They hit with

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 7>Jade and Daniels, and now look where they are now.

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 7>Look at the future of the Washington Commanders.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 7>I give Cincinnati, Hey, you get a mulligan with Joe Burrow.

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 7>You're not getting two years with Joe Burrow where you

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 7>don't make the playoffs. You got an MVP quarterback, you

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 7>better get in the playoffs. I said I'll give you

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 7>one year. I'm not going to give you two. So

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 7>once you get that guy, you better win consistently.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you regret not being a GM in the NFL?

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 7>Not at all, Dan, though I had that chance to

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 7>get into the league when a great probably the best

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 7>friend I ever had in the NFL, where we're all

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 7>you think about Ernie you Corsi general manager who was

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 7>going to bring me in.

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 5>At age twenty three, before I came to.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 7>ESPN, Dan, he offered me the position to come work

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 7>for him, just do whatever now as an assistant GM

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 7>like some you know. Erroneously said it was just to

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 7>be his assistant as a young kid coming in. If

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 7>I need kaiper to go wherever, I'll send them if

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 7>I need him to find out something else. And I

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 7>said great. He said, what do you want to do?

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 7>He said, just keep going through the eighty three draft.

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 5>Will announce you in July.

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 7>I had the NFL security come down and interview and

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 7>go through all the process to be accepted in and

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 7>all that.

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 5>So I was gonna that was all gonna happen.

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 7>In July, Ernie had drafted John Elway without his knowledge.

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 7>Er John Elway was traded to Denver. There was talking

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 7>about the Colts leaving town. Ernie would obviously be leaving

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 7>as well. He wasn't going to bring me in as

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 7>his guy, knowing the future is so uncertain for him

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 7>with this organization. He called me in June, Dan and

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 7>he said.

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 5>No, I can't bring you in.

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 7>I said, I said, okay, what do you want me

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 7>to do?

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 5>He said, Hey, nobody knows that I was going to

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 5>do this.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 7>It hasn't an announced to anybody. You've got a great

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 7>business going. Keep doing what you're doing. Everybody craves that

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 7>type of information.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 5>Keep doing what you're doing.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 7>I did, and guess what, five months later, got a

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 7>call from ESPN to come up an interview for the job.

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 7>Got that started in nineteen eighty four. So without Ernie

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 7>caring about a twenty three year old kid, and he

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 7>would have just brought me in, I'd have been with

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 7>the Colts, hit a left. I'd have been gone at

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 7>some point. ESPN would have had another draft analyst, and

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what that go I'd be doing right now, Dan, But.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>That leads me to what happen. Happen with Brent Musburger.

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I campaigned for him. I reached out to the Pro

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Football Hall of Fame, the Pete Roseld Award. I'd like

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 2>to do the same with you. I think you should

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 7>I appreciate that, Dan, but I don't. I don't, I really,

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 7>I never. I just believe there's so many people that

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 7>just you get you're fortunate, you get a little lucky,

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 7>on your side.

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<v Speaker 5>You're around great people. I was, Dan, work with you.

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<v Speaker 2>All those you you changed, You changed an industry. You

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<v Speaker 2>what you have meant to the NFL can it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a different version of John Facenda, Like he was the

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<v Speaker 2>voice and you were. You were the draft guy. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>look at what it's a cottage industry that you created

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<v Speaker 2>that is contributions to the game. I know you're modest,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I'm going forward with it. You you

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<v Speaker 2>deserve to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 8>You do, Dan.

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<v Speaker 7>Your great friend Andy Poland has been saying the same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I tell Andy the same thing. You know, Andy, and

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<v Speaker 7>he said he's gonna. I said, you know to me,

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<v Speaker 7>you get into this and you see so many people

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<v Speaker 7>that were responsible with ESPN for what's happened.

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<v Speaker 5>So you say I did this.

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<v Speaker 7>ESPN really did it, Dan, because they televised this thing

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<v Speaker 7>when the NFL didn't want it to be televised.

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<v Speaker 5>Think about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Think about all the great producers that were from Bill

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<v Speaker 7>Fitz who offered me that position in eighty four, all

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 7>the way up John Wildhack. You think about what he did.

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<v Speaker 7>Freddy Gadelli. Freddie Goadelli was able to coach me along

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<v Speaker 7>and teach me so many things about this business. Jay Rothman,

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<v Speaker 7>Brian Ryder now, Robert Dampsky, all the great producers.

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<v Speaker 2>Way you're giving your Hall of Fame speech, Wayne.

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<v Speaker 5>Markman is believing in me all these years. Seth has

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<v Speaker 5>been a great friend.

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<v Speaker 7>So all the ESPN guys, Dan, they were responsible, and

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<v Speaker 7>all the people that cut those highlight packs, that all

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<v Speaker 7>that worked behind, they were responsible for the drastics. That's

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<v Speaker 7>keep in mind. Dan, ESPN televised draft before I got here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>so the draft was on a ESPN because before I

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<v Speaker 7>became a part of the telecast changed you changed.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I appreciate that. But for John for sending what

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<v Speaker 5>you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>The voice, that voice.

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<v Speaker 7>Dan pulled people into the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the hair, he's the voicemail.

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<v Speaker 7>My great friend, You'll make great friends. George Young, right,

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<v Speaker 7>late great George Young, Calvert Hall's owns. George Young, famous

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<v Speaker 7>famous graduate of Calvert Hall history.

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<v Speaker 5>Great friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 7>Used to write me handwritten notes after he got the book,

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<v Speaker 7>when suggestions and just thoughts. He'd called me during the

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<v Speaker 7>draft even and give me, get me to tell him

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<v Speaker 7>his opinion of what went on George Young always said

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<v Speaker 7>one couple of things. He said, first of all, when

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<v Speaker 7>you draft a player is just as important as who

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<v Speaker 7>you select. So value is important. He said to me

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<v Speaker 7>yours when I basically when I started ESPN, you got

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<v Speaker 7>to you gotta get a voice, coach Mail, you got

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<v Speaker 7>to get that ball to you gotta get that Baltimore

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<v Speaker 7>accent out of that. You gotta lose that Baltimore accent.

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<v Speaker 7>George Always, I said, Charles, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>Going I gotta change it.

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<v Speaker 7>Whatever I am, I am, and it's not. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>resonate and his voice isn't getting done. I can't change

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<v Speaker 7>my voice. George, you got to get that Baltimore accent

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<v Speaker 7>and lose it. You're never gonna have any chance. So

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<v Speaker 7>it was funny all the conversations I look back to

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<v Speaker 7>with George and like Elady of course, and my great

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 7>friend Jack Faulkner with the Ams was phenomenal back in

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<v Speaker 7>the day. Today, I mean, all the way, all the

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<v Speaker 7>way through my career between Jack Ernie George.

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<v Speaker 2>Save it for your Hall of Fame speech, Save.

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<v Speaker 5>It, I would say, give that up. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>got a lot of people in the lake that hate me.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I got a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>people know they have hated me for a long time.

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<v Speaker 7>I do not think anything n f L related through

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<v Speaker 7>the Hall of Fame whatever, that will never work hand

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<v Speaker 7>in hand.

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<v Speaker 6>Then no.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'd say pace yourself, but you're not capable, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>good to talk to you. As always, We'll see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Take everybody