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Speaker 1: swadd all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

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Speaker 1: swadd all my life. I've been grinding all my life. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of the the Club Shashay. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, Shenning Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club

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Speaker 1: sha Shay. And the guy that's stopping by for a

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Speaker 1: He's a two thousand and two Offensive Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 1: one of the eighty greatest Washington Football team players, two

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Speaker 1: University of Miami Sports Hall of Famer. My former teammate

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Speaker 1: Clinton Poulter's pol what's up? What's good, bro? How you

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Speaker 1: doing man? I'm good. Good to see a long time

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Speaker 1: little s. I used to see you back when you

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Speaker 1: shop down Atlanta, and but this is my first time

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Speaker 1: seeing you in a while. How you being here, good man.

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Speaker 1: I reach out to you. Your response you got big

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Speaker 1: time you started club say say, I'm just glad to

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Speaker 1: finally get an invite. First of all, you know how

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Speaker 1: long Club Sha Shape been in existed? Club Shah it

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Speaker 1: was an existent when you came to Denver. Hey, I know,

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Speaker 1: I can't even get acknowledged. Well, you you know what

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Speaker 1: you in club Sha Shaw. You spend a Minia night

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Speaker 1: in Club Sha Shay. Explain to people because people like,

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Speaker 1: did you really have a club? Can you explain to people?

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Speaker 1: Because I know they've asked you because you play you

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Speaker 1: It's been an imagination forever. Like I said, it's finally

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Speaker 1: I think you do a great job with your interviews,

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Speaker 1: having people getting the truth out of people. So it's

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Speaker 1: have been a beautiful creation. Well, I'm glad you don't

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Speaker 1: Come to Club Sha shading them with a hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: and borrowed money from everybody else around the temple. Tre'mo bad,

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Speaker 1: start with your rookie night out. Explain to people about

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Speaker 1: my rooky night out. This wasn't a situation like I

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Speaker 1: stuff out of my control happened that I go to

427
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: the second round, which you know, at the one point

428
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: three I think I signed for one point one point

429
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: three meal, which turned out to be eight hundred and

430
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: fifty eight thousand when I received my check after taxes.

431
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: But then you don't realize the feat. You know, I

432
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: had to pay my agent who was David Ware at

433
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: the time. I think as soon as I signed my deal,

434
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: before I catch your check, he called me like, hey,

435
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: send me that money back. The same day, I'm like,

436
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm late for training camp. I haven't even deposited to check.

437
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: He like, yo, man, send me, send me, send me

438
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 1: this money that you owe me. And I think at

439
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: the time I owe him maybe four hundred grand, you

440
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just from off season spending, traveling,

441
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: his fees, whatever that was. So then I get to Denver,

442
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: you buy a house, you buy a car. That money

443
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: go quick. You know, Mama house. Yeah, but I didn't

444
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: get mama house. Shit, I didn't get her house until

445
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: I went to DC. So when I got the Denver,

446
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, I got my crib. And the following year

447
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: before we played the Chiefs. You know, I remember going

448
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: to the bank Wells Fargo, you know, heading towards C

449
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: four seventy right that Wells Fargo on the left. I

450
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: remember going to the bank and having one hundred and

451
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: twenty one thousand. You know, I go, I go to

452
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: the bank. I got one hundred and twenty one thousand,

453
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: and betting on myself. I say, you know, this is

454
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: one of those make or breaks. I went involved a

455
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: g wagon and a five hundred the same day, I

456
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: go back, same day, I said, but it was betting

457
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: on myself, like knowing we were playing the Chiefs, the

458
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: the platform was there, the opportunity was there, and just

459
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: so happened. I go out. People don't believe how that

460
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: game happened. You know, people don't believe in man, how

461
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: you knew this game was gonna happen. How you what

462
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: made you bring the belt to the game? What? How

463
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: when did you bring the belt on the sideline? And

464
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, if you really think about this game,

465
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: I show up with the belt at halftime, I had

466
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: twelve carries for fifty two yards. I bring the belt

467
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: out on the sideline the second half. But guess who

468
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: brought the belt out? Shannon Sharp brought the belt out.

469
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp is the person that brought the belt out

470
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: to the sideline for the second half. Shannon Sharp is

471
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: the person that helped me put on the belt in

472
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. No one realizes how this game actually happened.

473
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: To go and have those runs playing again, you know,

474
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: looking at the sideline, sending priests Holmes and knowing, Man,

475
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: I gotta outperform Priests. You know what I mean, Priests

476
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: a dog. Priest. Priests was a dog at that time

477
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: in that Chief's offense was just Paul You remember, you

478
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: remember we had lost to them. We were beating them

479
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: the whole game. And that put returned by Dante Hall.

480
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: You remember how Dante Hall ran that problem like ninety

481
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: three yards. It was so loud and arrowhead. He shook

482
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: so many people. Dante Hall. Dante Hall always messed up

483
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: my highlight. Really, if I did something big in the game,

484
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: you it's gonna turn around him in priests coming right

485
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: behind each other. And it always tell people if Dante

486
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: Hall could have played in this area of the day,

487
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: he would have been the coldest receiver. Yeah, if Dante

488
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: Hall was on the field right now, the stuff that

489
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: receivers slot receivers are doing, man, that's nothing done. But

490
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: when you you go, you go into that game and

491
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: we knew, look that was pretty close to the last

492
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: game of the season because that had beating us earlier

493
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: with that big long It was week fourteen, okay, yeah,

494
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: I think it was week fourteen. It so you get

495
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: off and you know you got the belt pass. De

496
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Troy gives you the belt, and I think you were

497
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: afraid to brag out the belt because Mike would go

498
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: look at you like you're crazy, Like what the hell

499
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: you do with rookie? So you get them back to

500
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: me because you know at that time, I'm just seeing

501
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: your statesman. Me and Mike. Me and Mike had the

502
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: main piece. We had our differences early on, but he's like, okay,

503
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: eighty four whatever you think gonna be. Because it was

504
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: my job to get everybody ready to play. That was

505
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: always alread eighty four, get him going. Even in training camp.

506
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: You know, I used to come in there a we

507
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: gotta strike up the band today. Boom boom boo. You

508
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: know I'm banging on longer than everything, everybody getting everything.

509
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: So that was my job. So you get me the

510
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: belt to about a sharp take this out. I'm like,

511
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: for what you ain't You ain't, then, well I'm gonna

512
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: put the belt on you for you got fitty yard.

513
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: You ain't getting no belt with him. And then it's

514
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: just time. I knew what time it was. You know

515
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: that whole week after I bought the two cards, after

516
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: I bought the two business, I bought the g wagon

517
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: about the SLU After I bought him, I went home.

518
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: This was like Wednesday. I called past a try. I say, truck,

519
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: what's up? You know. We chopped it up doing our

520
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: weekly talk and I say, bro, y'all come out here

521
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: and bring the belt. He was like, what you feel

522
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: like that? I said, man, y'all jump a flight, come

523
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: out here, bring the belt. Like, don't worry about nothing else.

524
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: I told I didn't tell anybody I had got the cars.

525
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't tell Mama. I didn't tell nobody nothing. When

526
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: I pulled up at the stadium with the top down

527
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: bumping that that that we read it it was trouble.

528
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: That was bro I just I knew it. You know,

529
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I knew I was betting on me and that was

530
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity. But what's crazier than that is that was

531
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: week fourteen, Like within three months of that, Bro I

532
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: was traded, Like that was gone. Yeah, basically that was it.

533
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Part of Look, we stayed at the hotel the night

534
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: before the game. We stayed at the Aberness. Do you

535
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: know that I looked at my window many a night

536
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: and who did I see leaving after curfew? Did you?

537
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Did you? You didn't even know? I knew that did

538
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: you till I'm telling you to the day. First off,

539
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: you all, if you always left early in the morning,

540
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: right so after curfew, I would, I mean I always

541
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: parked my car up front, and I would leave at

542
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: like six o'clock in the morning to go home because

543
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: my mom sometimes left. Sometimes you left. This was this

544
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: was the beginning. Yeah, this was the beginning. But then

545
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I realized all these cars parked

546
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: at the front. Definitely rod Smith car parked at the

547
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: front of the hotel. And when I leave at six

548
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: in the morning, everybody card gone. So like what these

549
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: guys doing. I listened in means they said you could leave,

550
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean after bed check, so in the morning. So

551
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: I realized guys were leaving at twelve oh one, that's

552
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: in the morning. Nobody was getting in trouble. So I

553
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: started leaving at twelve o one. Bed check was at eleven.

554
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I take me an hour, power depth and go home.

555
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Uh no, they were supposed to leave either, but I'm

556
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: talking about I'm looking out my window. I like, Mayo,

557
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: what had he going? I mean two? They just because

558
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: you know two. It cried on with all the one

559
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: that did the bed check. They did the bed checks

560
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: at home and different cultures did it? I mean on

561
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: the road, but at home, I look at my window

562
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: and show enough just like clock except my watch by yep,

563
00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: they go poe. I'm like that, listen. I deserved that, man,

564
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: I deserved it. I just needed to sleep in my

565
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: own bed. How you I just needed to sleep in

566
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: my own bed. Poem? How you feeling you deserve it?

567
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: I gotta state I understand it. I've all the states.

568
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: When you wanted to stay you you used to look

569
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: forward to coming there, bothering everybody you wanted to be at.

570
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: You wanted to be around the gap. I wanted to

571
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: go home and be in my bed like it wasn't.

572
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't going out, Like that's what's crazy. People give

573
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: me this like this like party boy image. I wasn't drinking.

574
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't going out. I wasn't doing anything. I just

575
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: did stuff my weight. When your agent called and told

576
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: you that they were trading you to Washington, what went

577
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: through your mind? Man? You know it was actually before

578
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: the Asian calling told me. I remember being at the

579
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and I didn't interview you with this this

580
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: beat writer UH named Adam Schefter from Denver and I

581
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: do an interview with Adam Schefter and I go back

582
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: to the bar. I'll never forget It was me Peyton

583
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: Man and uh Donna McNabb, Joy Porter sitting at sitting

584
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: at the bar at Pro Bowl, drinking my ties and

585
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, everybody talking and it was like breaking news.

586
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: When we come back on ESPN, say everybody like, man

587
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: who got in trouble? What happened? And the breaking news

588
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: was Portis wants out and everybody looking around. I'm looking

589
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: around too, like I didn't. No, no, this is no, no, no,

590
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: this is bad. Like I didn't. I didn't ask to

591
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: be out. But some of the questions that Adam asks

592
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: me at the time, where I say, I don't know,

593
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta talk to my agent, you know,

594
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: he was like you, I'll played your contract. Now. Do

595
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: you think the Broncos are gonna pay you? Hit? This happened,

596
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: ship that happened. I'm like, bron know about all that.

597
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm just here repering the Broncos like I'm living

598
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: my life. I'm enjoying and having a good time and that,

599
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, that's what started the

600
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: trade talks. But it was only one team that I

601
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: felt like didn't pass over me, so I didn't want

602
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: to be traded. But once it came up, it was

603
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: like the only team who didn't have the first rounds

604
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: raft pick was the Redskins. So I'm like, I tell Drew,

605
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, the only place I would go is the

606
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Redskins and they had just gotten coach Gives, so I'm like,

607
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: the only place I would go as the Redskins. I

608
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: won't even go anywhere else because everybody else passed over me.

609
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: So that was the only trade destination that I would

610
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: possibly work out of trade with. And once the once

611
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: the childer started in the back of forth, so I

612
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: think Drew kept me in the house for about three

613
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: or four days trying to get the trade done. You know,

614
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: they went from h Indie, they went from Indianapolis to

615
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: the trade talks, which was like a week later at

616
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: the time, like March to third or something free agency.

617
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: So for like a week, I'm just sitting still, scared

618
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: to walk outside, just trying to make sure nothing happens

619
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: to mess this up. And once the opportunity came about,

620
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: I talked to coach Shanahan and it was just one

621
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: of those situations and he was like, Hey, you don't

622
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: have to leave, Like we could pay you and keep

623
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: you here, and we feel like we're gonna be able

624
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: to get Champ Bailey regardless, and we would like to

625
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: keep you, you know we Uh. They were really trying

626
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: to set the market on how much running Back gets paid,

627
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: which at the time I think Curtis Martin was the

628
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: lead dog in that, and so they were trying to

629
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: set the market to say, no one is willing to

630
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: pay this amount of money and the rescuing and jump

631
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: to the forefront with the with the bag so port.

632
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: When I look at you, look at the area what

633
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: you played. You played with Ladanian, Thomason, Edrin, James, Priest Homes,

634
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: and yourself, Ladanian in the Hall of Fame, Edred in

635
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, had priest Home not suffering that

636
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: career ending injury. Look with it, you had the injuries.

637
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: I still believe that. I just don't believe part as

638
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: you worked as hard as you needed to work to

639
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: be what you could have been, I believe you left.

640
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: You left the Hall of Fame career on the table.

641
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I've told you that this ain't something that I'm just

642
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: not share you could have been that you you have

643
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: and I look at it totally different because I feel

644
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: like I did all the work that I needed to do,

645
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: and I look at I was having this conversation recently

646
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: about guys and workouts. You know, I wasn't a guy

647
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: for workouts. That that just wasn't me. I hated wads.

648
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: But on when it came game day, I was the toughest,

649
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: strongest man on the field. So I didn't see too

650
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: many other people diving in three hundred pound guys chest.

651
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see too many other people hustling seventy eighty

652
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: yards trying to throw a block, you know, to carry

653
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: out my fate. Run to the other side of the field,

654
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: come back, crack back, then carry the ball. I didn't

655
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: see no more dudes doing that. I was the only

656
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: one playing at that level. Every Sunday that I touched

657
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: the field, I felt like I was the baddest man

658
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: on the field, no matter who the person was across

659
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: from me, or no matter who my teammates was. I

660
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: stepped on the field and I walked off the field

661
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: feeling like, hey, I was the toughest man out here today.

662
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: So that workout stuff just wasn't for me, and saying,

663
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: think about what you're saying. You play in the NFL,

664
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: not a contact more of collision sport, the most physical, grueling,

665
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: demanding sport there is. And you say, workoutnything for me,

666
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: and you don't think that that's better? Part of you

667
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: want to leave? You left the game at thirty, bro,

668
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: I left the game at thirty for a different reason,

669
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: like I left the game at thirty because I realized

670
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: it didn't matter once Seann t Once, once they moved

671
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: Sean t locker out of the locker room, my love

672
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: for the game disappeared. You see what I'm saying. Like

673
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: everybody looked like, oh man, you left the game so early. Now,

674
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: I said, in a locker room where for a guy

675
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: that we looked at as a as a a god.

676
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: And I saw them remove his locker and put someone

677
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: else there to create space. It was planning a space

678
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room. You could have built a new locker.

679
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: You didn't have to remove Sean Taylor locker. At that time,

680
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: I was too sensitive, you see what I'm saying. I

681
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: was too sensitive at that moment, and it happened too earth.

682
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: You know, now, I think it's a great idea that

683
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: everyone gets to see it, and you know, it's in

684
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: the stadium, in everything in and any anybody who wants

685
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: to acknowledge Shun and see Sean gets an opportunity to

686
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: walk past that locker or take a picture. But at

687
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: that time, I could I could never swallow that pill.

688
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, when I see a guy that that did everything,

689
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: that laid it on the line and he became replaceable

690
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: that quick, it changed my outlook, like because you know,

691
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: I was one of the most competitive guys. It didn't

692
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: matter what it was. I didn't have to know how,

693
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: but I believe in me, you know, so when when

694
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: I see a guy like Sean who still has an

695
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: effect on the world so positive after all the negative

696
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: that happened, you know, like in the beginning he was

697
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: a villain, and he turned that villain into the most lovable,

698
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: respectable guy that you could possibly find. You know, everybody

699
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: is influenced by Sean Taybor. I played with every Red

700
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: and shann and don't get no better than that teammates

701
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: that not to mention anybody else that I played with.

702
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: I played with everything Sean t Like, Bro, you gotta

703
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: be kidding me. And when when I see a guy

704
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: that could have been the face of the NFL, the

705
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: best player in the NFL, and you remove his locker,

706
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: I just never along with me having a coach that

707
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: didn't understand me, you know what I'm saying, Like everything

708
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: happened at at at the same time I lost my grandmother,

709
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: Sean get killed, We're bringing in a coach that I

710
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: didn't see how the eye with that, you know, I

711
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: felt like was trying to sabotage me. When I'm trying

712
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: to put it on the line and do everything that

713
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: you're asking to me, You're stead of throwing me under

714
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: the bus. So it was so much happened in your

715
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: head coach Man, I'm talking about coach On, not coach

716
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: gibbs O exactly right. You see what I'm saying. You

717
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: don't even know who it was. Coaches On. So it

718
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: was so much happened that took the love away from

719
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: the game because you feel like, Man, I'm going out

720
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: here and fighting. I'm throwing hay makers, I'm throwing punches,

721
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: and I'm running through walls, whatever it takes, and now

722
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: my head coach punching me in the back of the head,

723
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to fight for you you punching me

724
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: in the back of the head. Right. So it was

725
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: just one of those situations that my appreciation and love

726
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I felt like I wasn't reciprocated. So it separated me

727
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: from the game. So that's why I retired. That's why

728
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: I walked away from the game because I couldn't give

729
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: it that same I didn't carry anymore, right, you see,

730
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying I didn't care anymore. And that was Coach

731
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Shanahan came and I'm reunited with Bobby T who I

732
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: got the most respect in the world for Bobby Teach.

733
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: So this day I still talked about the Tea. He

734
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: still reach out, you know what I mean. And when

735
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: Bobby T came back, I I don't even think Bobby

736
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Tea saw the dog that he remembered, you know what

737
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean. And I couldn't. I couldn't. This is my man,

738
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: this Bobby Tea, this is a man who raised me

739
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: then put me in position to go out and win.

740
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: And I can't be you know, I don't have that

741
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: that that Dyer you could, yeah, because my love wasn't

742
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: the same. You see what I'm saying. So I felt

743
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: like I was cheating the game. So I wanted out

744
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: of the game. And you know, I even told Dan sided.

745
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: When we called, Dan said no, Coach Shanahan said no

746
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: to me retiring. Both of them said no, that's a

747
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: bad idea. But I told him, Hey, Bro, I'm cheating y'all.

748
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm cheating you, I'm cheating

749
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: my teammates. I'm cheating me because I really don't care,

750
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: Like I really it don't matter to me anymore because

751
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't love this anymore. You finished with nine thousand,

752
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: nine hundred and twenty three yards, seventy five touchdowns, seventy

753
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: seven yards of ten thousand, six hundred and forty eight

754
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: yards short of John Riggins all time RITZK Washington football team. Mark,

755
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. You and O. J. Simpson are

756
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: the only players to rush for at least one hundred

757
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: and twenty yards and five consecutive games. You did it

758
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: twice in your career. Think about all the great running

759
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: back A lot of them that are running, a lot

760
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: of running backs in all the fame. There a lot

761
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: of running backs currently playing that's really good. The only

762
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: Titis did back, Bro, you know when when you look

763
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: at these these accolades and uh, knowing what what I

764
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: left this game, knowing what what I left on the field,

765
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: the numbers speak for themselves. You know. Everybody's like, oh man,

766
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: you played for nine years. Well three of those years

767
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I got hurt. So I look at that spin. You

768
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: weren't working out maybe, but anyway, No what working out?

769
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Don't stop the concussion working out, don't stop tearing the

770
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: grown Yeah, looking out, don't stop either though nothing is

771
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: one hundred percent part of nothing. Nothing is one hundred percent,

772
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: but it greatly reduces the chances, not the concussion, but

773
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: it greatly reduces the chances of some of those other

774
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: injuries happening. Don't do that part. Don't do that, you know, bro,

775
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: I had I had freak injuries. I got hurt going

776
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: to make a tackle in a preseason game that I

777
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in that fee and you went out

778
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: there with that fam you hating the preseason. Yeah, but

779
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: that's that's real tall, Like, that's that's real tall. I

780
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: got hurt in the preseason game. You know, people look

781
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: at like, oh man, use injury prone. If you put

782
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: me on the field, only no one speed. Yeah, I'm

783
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna give you all that guy if I'm on the field.

784
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: So either I'm giving you all that guy, or set

785
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: me on the sideline, because once I get out there,

786
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: the competitor gonna kicking, right, you know what I'm saying, Like,

787
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: the competitors gonna kick kid. So for me, man, I

788
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: just think the numbers speak for themselves. And I got

789
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: hurt two consecutive years. When you sit and say my numbers, well,

790
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you seventy seven yards short. I got hurt in oh

791
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: nine and twenty teen. I needed seventy seven yards to

792
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: recent pinnacle, which would be ten thousand those same two years.

793
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: You say no, but two years spanning, I could have

794
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: became the all time leading rusher in an organization that

795
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: got a Hall of Famer in Rigo. And it just

796
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: wasn't me. Yeah, like it just it just wasn't meant

797
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: to happen for me because I wasn't chasing. I wasn't

798
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: chasing A idn't care about records, Bobby Mention, So I didn't.

799
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I didn't care about records. I wasn't like, oh, man,

800
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: I want to break Rigo a record. You know what

801
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If I would have knew I needed six

802
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight yards. Hey, a lot of tried

803
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: to play through marken I should No, I'm glad I

804
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: need sixty eight. I need seventy seven yards. At the time,

805
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't as serious though, right. I can remember scoring

806
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: the touchdown where I couldn't see nothing. It looked like

807
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: like kaleidoscope in the background. But that was that was

808
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: a different date. You signed a big contract eight years,

809
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: fifty fifty and a half million, seventeen million dollars signing bonus.

810
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: You're on top of the world. This is this is

811
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: not you know what, I'm straight for the rest of

812
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: my life. What looking back now, what do you wish

813
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: you have done differently? Bet on me like I should

814
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: have always believed in me. I think I had trust

815
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: issues with people, just just knowing the upbringing, knowing the

816
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: way I grew up, going from Mississippi gains Hill to

817
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: UH coming to the University of Miami to being drafted

818
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: by Denver. I ain't trust people that I didn't know.

819
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: So the moment that I started to trust people I

820
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't know is that's what I would have never done.

821
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: I never would have took their advice because people give

822
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: you the advice, Hey man, you need to trust this person,

823
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: you need to listen to this person, or they have

824
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: your best interests. Now I have my own best interests.

825
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: Like if I look back to say I need to

826
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: change anything, I never would have started trusting people that

827
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know, Like these people weren't around me, these

828
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: people didn't have my best interests, and I would have understand.

829
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: I would have understood that these people are out to

830
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: get paid the same way I'm trying to get paid.

831
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: And my bread and butter is on this field, not

832
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: not this investment over here, you know what I mean.

833
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: Like often people get involved in investments that turn out

834
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: to pay out and give them a lot of money,

835
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: but it'd be the other way around. They put small

836
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: portions in or put a reasonable portion in and end

837
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: up getting a lot of money, and not where you

838
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: put a lot of money in and if you're putting

839
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: the bulk of the money and somebody else's get you know.

840
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: So for me, I think it was just more of

841
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: trusting people that I didn't know that I never should

842
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: have trusted in the first place, in thinking that they

843
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: had my best interests. So I wouldn't point the finger

844
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: at them. I would point the finger at me and

845
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: say I didn't I didn't want to trust you in

846
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: the first place, like somebody else convinced me that I

847
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: should trust you. Right, I knew I shouldn't have trusted you,

848
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: and I would have rather betted on me and believed

849
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: in me. Because you're looking at it like I'm getting

850
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: paid on the football field. They're looking at it. I'm

851
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: about to get paid off of him while he's doing

852
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: all the work. I'm going to reap the benefits because

853
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: they know what you don't know. And that's the thing

854
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: that I tell a lot of letter I tell athletes

855
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: now is that you don't know what you don't know.

856
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: And it's hard parts we've all been in situations where

857
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: somebody's taken advantage of us because we didn't know all

858
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: the things that we should know. You just hopefully you

859
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: find the right people that would do the right things

860
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: on your behalf. And it's very unfortunate that you had.

861
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: You know, you learned the hard way that I'm really

862
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: I read you BUYO where people was writing checks on

863
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: your behalf, and that's what you learned. You can't give

864
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: anybody the power of attorney because nobody. You know, next thing,

865
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's money going out to that You're like, well,

866
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: why can't I get this? Why I don't have enough

867
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: money to cover that because they emptied the coffers. See man,

868
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: Like for me, it was just one of those situations

869
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: where everything come to life. You know, if you if

870
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: you know early right, if you know early when I was,

871
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: when I was doing this in oh five, oh six,

872
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: oh seven, oh eight, making these investments, they were they

873
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: were supposed to pay out, you know, in twenty fourteen,

874
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, you know, down the line after football was over.

875
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: So that was the thought process. You don't know, Hey, man,

876
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: I should be getting a residual income. I should be

877
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: getting a check, a monthly check. I should be getting

878
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: something a statement I should be getting I should be

879
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: getting something every month. I should be getting updated every

880
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: every week by weekly at the least. I should be

881
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: on top of this. But you're trusting someone else to

882
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: be on top of it. And with that being said,

883
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: as you said, if you don't know, you know, I

884
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: think in this era where you've seen so many guys

885
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: in Lebron James, the Dwayne Ways, these guys in basketball,

886
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: that's become phenomenal outside investors. Or when you look at

887
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: the nas or jay Z or did he how they

888
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: turned their money into an empire that wasn't in the

889
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: two thousands. Remember that, Like this has just come about

890
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty fifteen, where guys are making these power moves.

891
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: In the two thousands, we weren't doing this like it

892
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: was nobody the understanders was the prime time, the main

893
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: man to watch. He wasn't doing this right, Like we

894
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: didn't have Lebron blueprint. We didn't have jay z blueprint

895
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: at this time, like jay Z was doing the same

896
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: thing I was doing, you know what I'm saying. So

897
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: oh everybody look at it like, oh man, this should

898
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: have been second nature. You should have known back No,

899
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: we didn't have a guy in Adrian James that's gotten

900
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame that's not taken a

901
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: loss that ten minutes, you know, ten cents gone, and

902
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: everybody got to come in the room. Hey, let's talk

903
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: about this. We're missing ten dollars, Like we're missing ten dollars.

904
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Let's find let's find out why we're missing these ten dollars.

905
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: When we find out while we're missing these ten dollars.

906
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: That person is gone, you know what I mean, Like

907
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: we didn't have that that was that was being established,

908
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: and everybody look at it like, oh man, this is

909
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: so obvious. This is like this should have been known,

910
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: Like you should have already known this. No, you shouldn't

911
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: have because Bernie Madoff. Bernie Madoff took some of the

912
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: smartest people in the world, absolutely some of the smartest

913
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: people in the world. And you know what I mean,

914
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: everybody look at athletes like these dumb ass athletes, like

915
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: these athletes are they're so dumb with their money. Well

916
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: what I didn't see any athletes only made off athletes

917
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: weren't making enough money for him, right, you see what

918
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Those are some of the smartest, richest people

919
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: in the world that got screwed over. You know what

920
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean. You find yourself in a situation the last

921
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: couple of weeks about this healthcare situation. Explain, you know,

922
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: talk to us about that. Man, you know, it's an

923
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: unfortunate situation. Again, another one of those situations that if

924
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: you look back saying, man, I should have known something

925
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: was wrong. But you and I both being former players,

926
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: all the former players know how hard it is to

927
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: access anything, right, you know what I mean. So when

928
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: someone comes along and say, hey, I know how to

929
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: access this, I know how to get this done, You're like,

930
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: why I've been getting turned down? I've been missing, I've

931
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: been getting denied. Like we just talked about concussions. I've

932
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: been in a concussion lawsuit since day when I was

933
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: the face of the concussion lawsuit. I got denied. You

934
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, all the carries you just discussed

935
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: over two thousand carries. I got denyed, you know how

936
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: many times out and fellas sleep on the field, or

937
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: I can watch highlights and see myself woolsy say, you

938
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: know what, I was gonna cuss right there. They don't

939
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: care about that, you know. And it's it's not a

940
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: shot at the NFL. It's not a shot and anything.

941
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: It's just the fact that you get denied so much.

942
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: When someone finally willing to help, it's like, oh man,

943
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: I finally found somebody who can help me, and it's

944
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: the wrong person, you know what I mean. So again

945
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: it goes back to I don't trust me and the

946
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: dogs in here. Somebody fart, Hey, I'm looking at the dogs.

947
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: What's up you? Know what I mean, So I just

948
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: don't trust. Is one of those things, man, that if

949
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: you find the right people right sometimes people do. If

950
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: you find the right people, then you stick with them

951
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: people and y'all grow and the empire grow. That's how

952
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: you get all these success stories. Oh man, our whole

953
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: crew eating. That's how you get the Mavericks and all

954
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: the people that from Lebron that's just taken off and

955
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: become their you know what I mean, the rich Paul,

956
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: the Maverick car Like, that's how you get those people

957
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: because they found a good group, they grew together and

958
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: it happened. But so many people get screwed because you

959
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: don't have that many people around you with that knowledge

960
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: or to put in position to see this through. And again,

961
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: that blueprint is recent. That blueprint wasn't twenty years old,

962
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: you know, in two thousand and one, that blueprint wasn't out.

963
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Like this is we're turning over new leaves. But now

964
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: that it's out, continue to go get money. Like I'm

965
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: never gonna stop hustling or trying to get to the bag.

966
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: But what I would do is if I don't trust

967
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: this person, if I don't deal with this person, I'm

968
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: not dealing with like, I don't need newcomers. I don't

969
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: need to take a chance on outside. I got too

970
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: many successful people around me. So tapping into the people

971
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: that's successful that I know it's successful. I got an

972
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to reach out to you. I want to do media.

973
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: I love doing me, So why not call Shannon Sharp?

974
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: They say, Hey, you know what, y'all put me in

975
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: a situation and put me on your show. Let me

976
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: talk my talk, Let me do what I do and

977
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: hope that something come about. Instead of going to beg

978
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: someone that I don't know, that don't know me, who

979
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: looks at me as a screw up, who looks at

980
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: me as oh man, this dude, he need me, bro.

981
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: We could win amongst us, you know what I'm saying.

982
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: We could win with the people that we know, with

983
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: the knowledge that we have. It's just tapping into it.

984
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, I watch you grow. You've always been this person.

985
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: The entire world just got an opportunity to start seeing

986
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: it once you got the platform, right. But this has

987
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: always been sharing, are you know what I'm saying. It's

988
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: the same with Clinton porters, the people that know me.

989
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm meant too. You know what I

990
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: stand for. You know what I'm about. The people that

991
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: judge me outside is they don't know me. They see

992
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: some arrogant dude, or they heard from someone else. They

993
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: don't realize you. I'll give you the shirt off my back.

994
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure you eat. I feed everybody. I

995
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 1: feed a community in Washington, DC. Every everything is giving

996
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: four hundred people. I sit down and eat with you're

997
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: in and you're out. I've been feeding communities games in Florida, Washington, DC, Dunver, Miami.

998
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Just because I don't, I'm going to

999
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: hate it. To help take clean water. I'm traveling the

1000
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: world trying to make a difference. I go into the

1001
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: prisons to hear people's stories like people don't. People don't

1002
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: know that because I don't broadcast there. You don't you

1003
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: always anytime you see me, Oh man, what this dumbin

1004
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: n d it? You know what I mean, bro, I'm

1005
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: out here with these kids trying to make sure they

1006
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: don't make the same mistake that I make. Not just

1007
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: my kids, any kids, anybody that I can get my

1008
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: hands on and say, you know what, bro, I don't

1009
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: need nothing from you. I'm not asking you for anything.

1010
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you don't lose ten dollars.

1011
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: That's that was Ejay mentality Edrin James. I don't want

1012
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: to lose ten dollars. So if I can make sure

1013
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: you don't lose ten dollars and I can still put

1014
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: you in the right direction that you keep winning, that's

1015
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Everybody else, Hey, your opinion

1016
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: is your opinion. It's not gonna stop me from smiling,

1017
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 1: it's not gonna stop me from hustling, it's not gonna

1018
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: detoit me. I've been fighting all my life, you know

1019
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: what I mean. I've been fighting to prove worthy, to

1020
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: knock down the door, to get in the door, to

1021
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: be heard. And now that I'm heard, even though it's negative,

1022
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: some of the negative stuff, just read the fine print,

1023
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, and that's it's another issue where I was wrong.

1024
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: Read the fine print. Read it all, and if you

1025
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: read it all, you'll see some of the stuff that

1026
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: that we jump on or some of the stuff that

1027
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: we think it don't add up. And if it don't

1028
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: add up, stay away from you. I get what you're saying.

1029
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: You're saying that you know for so long, you tried

1030
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: to get what you thought you had fairly earned. Playing

1031
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: nine years in the National Football League, taking those bumps,

1032
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: those bruises, those broken bones, those concussions, you thought you

1033
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: would have easier access to gain what you felt that

1034
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: after my nine years of service to an organ, to

1035
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: a league, they would be more than willing to help

1036
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: me get on my feet, stay on my feet, Not

1037
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: get on my feet because I'm on my feet, but

1038
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: stay there. You know, you know this is what I've earned.

1039
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel that this is why? You know a

1040
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: lot of times now they'll look at it like, see

1041
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: you see what he tried to do. A lot of

1042
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: people probably don't need it, but just trying to get it,

1043
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: trying to gain access to it. Do you feel that

1044
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: that's how they're gonna judge certain people that come along

1045
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: after after you? Man? I think I think people are

1046
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: we're in a We're in a time that everybody is judged. Man,

1047
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: We're in one of those. Uh, everything is so sensitive

1048
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: that everybody is judged. Everyone's opinion of voice is heard,

1049
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: that it don't matter like somebody gonna be mad that

1050
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: I wore a yellow hat on this show? Why did

1051
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: he wear yellow he should have. He should have wore

1052
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: orange hat for the Broncos like he got on the

1053
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: yellow hat for for the Washington football team because because

1054
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: they just won, they first get like that's that's not it.

1055
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: But uh, you can't. You can't fight all those battles, right,

1056
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: you can't fight. You can't. You can't fight every battle

1057
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: that that comes about. You know. You gotta pick the

1058
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: battles and pick and shoes. And for me, I think

1059
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: I've had so many battles that's been public. Uh that's

1060
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: that's been public that I fought in the public eye

1061
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: that people like many him. He not tired yet. I

1062
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: can't get tired, because if I get tired, get ran over,

1063
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: i'ma lose, you know. And I don't want to get

1064
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: used to being a loser. I don't want I don't

1065
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: want that that concept to be associated. I want I

1066
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: want the concept of you know what man, that man

1067
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: is overcoming, that man is believing that man. You know,

1068
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: it's something special about it, whether it's God, whether it's

1069
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: the people that's prayer for him, his mama, his grandmama,

1070
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: his cousins, whoever, it is, the people that that appreciate

1071
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: him and know him for who he is. Those are

1072
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: the people that you get up for. Those are the

1073
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: people that you can't give up own because they're not

1074
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: giving up on you. So for me, this is one

1075
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: of those situations. If I got breath of my body, man,

1076
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep on moving, you know. And you get

1077
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: in these situations and it's like, man the hell I

1078
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: end up like me out of all people? Why why me? Like?

1079
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Why me? Out of all these people? And it's just

1080
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: one of those I can't question God for for whatever

1081
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: reason that this battle was placed upon me or bestowed

1082
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: upon me. It's just another obstacle that that I gotta

1083
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: get over. And I will get over and I will

1084
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: continue to believe and uh stay faithful, and I might

1085
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: reach out to you more. But I'm not afraid to

1086
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: reach out and say, you know what, Bro, I needed you.

1087
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: I know you got access, I know you got the platform.

1088
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: I know you got an opportunity, uh to help me

1089
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: get this message across. So help me, you know, don't

1090
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: be afraid to ask for help. Don't don't run from

1091
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: people that that you know are smarter than you, Like

1092
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: I blow e J phone up now because I'm eager

1093
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: to win. You see, what I'm saying like, and I've

1094
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: always had access to him. I didn't have to wait.

1095
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: I've been saw his vision, so I could have been

1096
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: tapped into it. But better you know, better, better late

1097
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: than ever. So reach out to those people. Gain the

1098
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: knowledge that you need to gain, ask the questions that

1099
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: you need to ask. That's what it is like. We're

1100
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 1: so often afraid to ask a question because we're worried

1101
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: about being rejected. We're worried about being told something we

1102
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: don't want to hear. But I'd rather I'd rather you

1103
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: reject me and know that I'm out here trying to

1104
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: get it, or knowing that I'm out here on my ground.

1105
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you. I'm not. I'm never gonna call

1106
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: you and say, shock, man, I need you to send

1107
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: me one hundred dollars. Never, but I might call you

1108
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: and say, man, I'm trying to get to this hundred dollars?

1109
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: How can I get that? Right? You see what I'm

1110
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: saying like, I'm not asking for anything, because I got

1111
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: breath in my body. I'm gonna go out and get it.

1112
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it happen. Legit not illegal, you know,

1113
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: So the legit way what does the forty year old

1114
01:01:50,400 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: plating Porters with the twenty year old quilting Porters had known. Man,

1115
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: I think the twenty year old Clint Porters didn't even

1116
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: know he would make it to forty. The twenty year

1117
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: old Clint Porters wasn't worried about getting the forty And

1118
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's just upbringing, you know, environment. So you're thinking, man,

1119
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy today and I'm not really worried about tomorrow.

1120
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: And then when tomorrow come, when kids become a factor,

1121
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: you started looking at I gotta be around, you know,

1122
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: like man, my feet gotta be on the ground. I

1123
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: gotta be able to to provide, you know, because at

1124
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: twenty I didn't have to provide. I didn't have to do.

1125
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: It was only me, right, you know. But when you

1126
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: start getting miles a feet, when you start getting people

1127
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: depending on you, when you started looking at your parents

1128
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: getting old and losing your grandparents, losing your parents like

1129
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: he's changing. You know, you're not that young, that twenty

1130
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 1: year old rip body stud, not you that that forty

1131
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: year old beer Bailly. You know that's that's still got

1132
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: to get stuff done. So just figure it out, you say,

1133
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: if I would have moved, or if I would have

1134
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't looked, just if I would have asked

1135
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: this question, you know what I mean, ask yourself questions.

1136
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: You don't need to rush to make a decision. You

1137
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 1: got time. You don't need to be on someone else's time.

1138
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: So you got time. And if it's uncomfortable to you,

1139
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: if it's something that don't feel right, if you got

1140
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: any you know, pass just pass on it. You know what,

1141
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: even though this might be good and a year or

1142
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: two from now it might pay out big, it don't

1143
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: sit right with me, so and if it don't sit

1144
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: right with you, leave it alone. You know. If it's

1145
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: something that's on you that you need to research, further researching,

1146
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: but make sure you're in make sure you get the

1147
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: answers that you need before you do anything. You know,

1148
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: and that's in life. That's that's in life period. Make

1149
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: sure you're informed before you do anything. You don't have

1150
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: to make a rational or a quick decision to move forward.

1151
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: Let's transfer to on the field currently, who are your

1152
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: best for running backs in the NFL? Man? You know,

1153
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: being that it's gonna always be the same because it's

1154
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: only like four or five backs they get opportunity. So

1155
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: for me, I would say in no particular artor, I

1156
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: would say Derek Harry uh, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Camaron and McCaffrey.

1157
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember when when you remember when little Christie

1158
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: used to be in the locker room. I've noticed since

1159
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: he was born, and I never thought, I'm like, I'm

1160
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: looking at it. Do it like, dude, I remember you

1161
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: with this big and runner riding the locker room playing

1162
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: football with your older brother, and I'm like, dude, one

1163
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: of the best running backs in football. Man. I ran

1164
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: into Eddie Mack right, and I was I was ecstatic

1165
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: to see Eddie Mack And I brought up Christian. I'm like, man,

1166
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: you sound ball. You know what he said, that's from

1167
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: watching all of your own plays, and you know, it

1168
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: was just one of those smiles to say, you never

1169
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: know the impact that you have on people who's watching, right,

1170
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: and just to constantly continuously try to be a role model, right,

1171
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: and you never know, like you never know who you're impacting.

1172
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: But when you look at Christian McCaffrey, I just think

1173
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: the situation that they put him in and the opportunities

1174
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 1: that he gets exposed his talent a lot of guys

1175
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: don't get the opportunity to Comarragant, gonna get the ball,

1176
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: Cook gonna get the ball. Here, he gonna get the ball.

1177
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: Other guys they don't know if they're gonna get teen

1178
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: to fifteen touches, right, that's run in the pass. You

1179
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: just don't know because you got running back by a committee.

1180
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: Game playing change. You know, you watch so many teams

1181
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: back in the day, it used to be away months

1182
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: Town of Far, like, these guys are gonna have forty

1183
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: passes in you know, the other quarterbacks might have twenty

1184
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: five passes. Now every quarterback throwing the ball sixty times

1185
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: a game. So a running back, you know, the opportunity

1186
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: is not there for a running back to shine like

1187
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: it was in my day. Yeah, I think the thing

1188
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: is now those guys that you mentioned, Now, Derek Henry's

1189
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: not gonna catch that many passes, but he's gonna get

1190
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: his twenty five touches and build a carry. Those guys

1191
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: are gonna get that catches because they're gonna run it

1192
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: and they're gonna catch it. That's the different. You look

1193
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: at Camaro, He's gonna get fifteen twenty touches and it

1194
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: might they might not all be runs, but he might

1195
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: get ten catches and fifteen carries. Christian McCaffrey, he's gonna

1196
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: get twenty five thirty touch of the game, and it

1197
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: might be twenty and ten. Dalvin Cook is the same thing.

1198
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: Howland Clinton Porter Fairer in today's game. It would be

1199
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: tough because for me, like I wasn't I would. I

1200
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: felt like I could do everything. Now you have so

1201
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: many specialists like, oh man, I gotta put this guy

1202
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: in for this play. I gotta put this guy in

1203
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: for this play. Like, Bro, I can run every play

1204
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: anything they need to be done, I can do it right.

1205
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: I want to go out there. I know the ball

1206
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: going to Rod Smith, but I can run this post route,

1207
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: like let me run it. You know, I know the

1208
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: ball going to Shannon Sharpe, but let me line up

1209
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: at tight end. So I felt like I could do everything.

1210
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: So I think what would be hard is the game plan.

1211
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: And I remember Edge used to say all the time, like, Bro,

1212
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: you the last of a dying breed, like we gone

1213
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: after after you. We don't have you know, Frankie g

1214
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: end up lasting fifteen more years. But the every down back,

1215
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: the first second, third down, back, the guy that could

1216
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: do everything is is kind of missing, you know. And

1217
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: I think again, you look at Camaro, you look at McCaffrey.

1218
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: They could be every down backs, but they get spelled too.

1219
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: You know. Murray was the short yardas gold line and

1220
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: the guy to come in on this occasion. It wasn't

1221
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: just Camaro, and they had Ingram as well, so they

1222
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: were running back by committee. Although Camaro got his shine

1223
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: on and still gets his shining on. It's like the

1224
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: talent that that I felt like I brought to the

1225
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: game was totally different. Like I could do it all baby.

1226
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: I want to be in on short yardage, gold line.

1227
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: I want to be in and spread. I want to

1228
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: be in two minutes, like I want the first down,

1229
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: the second down. You know, I could run the screen,

1230
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: I could run the draw whatever, I can do it.

1231
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: I think that one of the best things that you

1232
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't get, that people don't talk about is your blitz

1233
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: pick up. And I tell people this all the time.

1234
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: I watched Pope the cleat Guy, and he enjoyed it

1235
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: because he said, this is my opportunity, because you've been

1236
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: beating on me all day. You're gonna run up in

1237
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: here and not see me because I'm gonna be behind

1238
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: behind this guard. And when you by the time you

1239
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: think about, oh, I'm about to get this quarterback, your

1240
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: feet in the air because I don't put my helmet

1241
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: right up under your chain and I you know, we

1242
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: used to sitting right and wad like yeah, po, you

1243
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: got that when we be in the huddle, like yep,

1244
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, Sep, I got I got one. What

1245
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: do you see it on for him? Hey? But you

1246
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy. I think as as time went on,

1247
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: where you start to realize and this, I think this

1248
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: is missing too. Like in situational football, the defense got

1249
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: a blitz in certain gaps. You know they can't. They

1250
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: don't just get the pick a gap. If he gotta

1251
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: come up to a gap, he gotta come up to

1252
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: a gap the same way as a as a running back,

1253
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 1: like hey, you're supposed to be here or the receiver

1254
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: got to run right here. When I started to realize that,

1255
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, man, you gotta running

1256
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: between this center and guard like you don't run through

1257
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: their blind You're trying to get through full speed. You're

1258
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: trying to find me, and all this just attack you

1259
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: at the line, like, I know you got to er

1260
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: right here, and when you enter, I want to make

1261
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: sure you don't er anymore. And one of my favorite

1262
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: and I think we came to them for an oh five.

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: I think I finally got an opportunity to play the

1264
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: Broncos at oh five. And I've always been an Al

1265
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: Wilson thing. And they had Al Wilson and Nate Website,

1266
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,879
Speaker 1: who I played within in college. And these were always

1267
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: two of my favorite players because they played the game

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01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: with the way it's supposed to be playing. They coming

1269
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: downhill and they laying that lumber and I'm looking across

1270
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: and I see a I see me, and I don't

1271
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: think I'm thinking of as boy. These boys are gonna

1272
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: try to kill me, so I gotta try to kill

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01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: and Al blitz that a gap. When I see this

1274
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: foot go by my ear, I said, oh I got it,

1275
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: I got and it slowed them down. You know. I

1276
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: remember Al when we were getting ready to play the

1277
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins and whatever that the issue was he had with

1278
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams. Huh, But I remember all week long saying

1279
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna punished Rickey Williams. I'm gonna take him out

1280
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: of this game, and when we got in the game,

1281
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: he delivered. So that was one of my favorite Blisz

1282
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: pick ups. Was my old former teammate and Al Wilson.

1283
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: You understood the thing that made you great at Bliss

1284
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: pick up and what I try to explain to people

1285
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: on social media, you gotta close the distance because you're

1286
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: much more. You let I don't care how tough you are.

1287
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: You let him in, get a running start, and you

1288
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: stand in flat footed. He's gonna sit your butt in

1289
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks lap. So what you do is close that

1290
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: distance and like when he hits that a gap, you

1291
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: put your helm and right up on this chain. If

1292
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: whatever gap he hits, even if it's the edge, I

1293
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: used to tell you, if it get there quick because

1294
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 1: if he get you get there quick. You don't have

1295
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: to worry about because they do it all this juking

1296
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: and then try to get there and be to unload them.

1297
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: Take a shot. That's all you gotta do. Take a

1298
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: shot and you get it one time. You're good for

1299
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Hey, but you know what's crazy.

1300
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: That's what made me turn into a blocker, you know,

1301
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: along with Coach Solids because it was required for us

1302
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: to block at Miami. But remember we used to have

1303
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: to cut the line of scrimmage and we played the Jets,

1304
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: and I think Abraham or either Sean Ellis need me

1305
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: in the head, and I almost knocked me out, and

1306
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: I was like, man, forget this. I'm I'm jumping in

1307
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: their chests from here on. And I remember I used

1308
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: to fake like I was gonna cut to get guys

1309
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: to stop and just dive in their chests. And then

1310
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: it just took off from there, like meeting them at

1311
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, knowing I know you got to

1312
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: come in between this little gap, so I got early.

1313
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: By the time by the time you come through this gap,

1314
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm already in the airfline. You can't do but fall

1315
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: back or move back, but you're not getting to the quarterback.

1316
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: So that was my only concern. I just wish if

1317
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: I would have known then what I know now, I

1318
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: probably would have never throw a blog like I would

1319
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: have saved my body, would have got through seventy seven

1320
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: yards or that seven hundred yards that I needed to

1321
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: become the all time leading Russia for the rescue. Go

1322
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: back to to Miami. You mentioned some of the guys,

1323
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: you played with Sean Taylor, Ed Reid, uh Santana Moss,

1324
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, Frank Gore, Willis mcgahey, Brian McKennon, and Trail Roll.

1325
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean a Philip Buchana list goes on and on.

1326
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: One were those shocky U? What were some of those practices? Like? Men? Competitive?

1327
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: I kid you not. I remember when I got to

1328
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: Denver and seeing our team in realizing the team I

1329
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: played on in college was better, and y'all used to

1330
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: give me a time when because I was Miami all

1331
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: the way what each sleep I believed in us and

1332
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: we beat You do know that though we'd beat the

1333
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: hell out of y'all. Yeah, yeah, y'all, y'all probably would have,

1334
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 1: but we could have beat somebody. Now, everybody wasn't gonna

1335
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: beat us, I don't think. So this is what you

1336
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: gotta understand. Y'all had, Like let's just say, for the

1337
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: sake of argument, you guys had twenty guys go to

1338
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: the NFL from that team. Everybody in the NFL. In

1339
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, they got fifty three guys. They're going to

1340
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. So they ain't no color team beat no

1341
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: protein poke even even even in Cleveland back then that

1342
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: was terrible, and even the jack and even even the

1343
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: Houston Texas hung fifty on. Y'all, listen, I believe, I

1344
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: believe in the talent that we had now if you

1345
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: could actually, like you said, those guys are all in NFL.

1346
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: So it's tough to say, well, college team could be

1347
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: the NFL team because the NFL has grown me in college.

1348
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: You're still finding your way in the NFL. Your identity

1349
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: is that like, I'm grown and I don't see like

1350
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 1: I don't see any of this. But for those guys

1351
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: that that I played college ball with, when you look,

1352
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: all those guys started an error, you know, and not

1353
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: only did they start an error, Shocky. I felt like

1354
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: Gunzalez wasn't only tight end, probably to Shocky, and Shocky

1355
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: came in and did it his way, you know. Shocky

1356
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: gave you so much. And then Winslow and Bubba Franks,

1357
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: like these guys changed the tight end game to how

1358
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: we see it now. When you look at the Jimmy

1359
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: Grahams and uh, you look at all of the best

1360
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: tight ends, that killer and all that that's shocking, that's

1361
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's guys from the youth you know, you

1362
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: look at the running backs, Frankie g Edge me, you

1363
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: look at the guys around you know the impact of

1364
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: the influence. When you look at Julio Jones, that was

1365
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson. You know, Reggie Wayne Running one of the

1366
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: best rock runners and hands that I've ever seen. When

1367
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: when you started talking about he had Read Sean T.

1368
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: You know, running Lot and it's Steve Atwater were the

1369
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: names that prior to these guys that everybody looked up to.

1370
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: Now it's Ed Read and Sean T. You know, I

1371
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: think Philip Buchannan, barring injuries, still would have been one

1372
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: of the best best dbs of all the time. He's

1373
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 1: one of the best that I ever played with or

1374
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: I ever seen. When you look at Santana, moss I

1375
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: talked about Dante Hall and how he impacted the game.

1376
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,480
Speaker 1: Think about Santana in the slot dogar Santana was an underdog,

1377
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Santana was an underdog that

1378
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: always overachieved. He was fast, he was fearless, like he

1379
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: was just a dog. You know, when you look at

1380
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: these guys, they changed the game. And then when you

1381
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: look on the defense subside, Uh, you're talking about n Trey,

1382
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: Vincent Wilford, Villemots. You know DJ Williams becoming those those

1383
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 1: linebackers that can cover tight ends, that could do everything

1384
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: that you can move around and feel like you didn't

1385
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: have that prior. Then you go out and find a

1386
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: running I mean a linebacker like like DJ Williams that

1387
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: you could move and uh, he could go play on

1388
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: this side and he could move to this side. Jonathan

1389
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: Villeman who was who was smaller and come down hill

1390
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: and thump you like bro It was Dan Morgan. You know,

1391
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 1: these people change the the They had an impact on

1392
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: the way the game is played. Now, who's your mouth? Rushmore?

1393
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: You only get four players? You get four. You get

1394
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: four Hurricanes to put off be at Michael Irvin, Bear

1395
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: Ed Reid being, Sean Taylor, Ray Lewis it be Jay Bugget,

1396
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: Warren South, Andre Johnson. You get four, Jim Kelly, you

1397
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: get four players? Who are you for going up there?

1398
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: That's tough. I'm my first one gonna be be read Man.

1399
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean just the respect that I have for for

1400
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: Read and knowing who Read is and what Read brought

1401
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: to the game. It read two through four games. I

1402
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: would put edge up man. I don't think people realize

1403
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: the influence that Edge has had on everybody, you know,

1404
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: not just you and them guys, but the effect that

1405
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: he had on the community off the field. Being being

1406
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: our lebron Edge would go up there, I would have

1407
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 1: to put I would have to put Sat on Jern

1408
01:18:55,200 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: whom I would put people booget w before people time.

1409
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: People don't remember Jay Bucket, but he was fat before Sap. Yeah,

1410
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: it's it's you can't say Soath and not give Jerome Brown.

1411
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: But just for just say, just for people who know,

1412
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: I would say Sath because he changed, He changed the game.

1413
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: So that's read. It's Sath got one more. It's hard

1414
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: to play Maker off. It's hard to lose leave Ray

1415
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 1: Ray Off. But another one of my favorite players, and

1416
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: you know you don't really give the dude his roses.

1417
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne Man just bro. Reggie Wayne was an ultimate

1418
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: like brother man could run routes, his hands was unbelievable,

1419
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: like just everything about him, how how he played the game.

1420
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: He's selfish, but how he pla the game. And it's

1421
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: hard to say Reggie over over dre and and play

1422
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: Maker and Lamar Thomas and all those guys. But you

1423
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: only gave me for so I'm giving you my four

1424
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: favorite players, all right, I can live with that. Matter

1425
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: of fact, I gotta leave reg y'all Who'm going with Sean?

1426
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm throwing red. You got Jean red Edge and who

1427
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: is your other way? Flapp Man? You put everybody that

1428
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: you played with up there. You think you slip. I

1429
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: ain't playing with no SAPs, with the exception of Sap.

1430
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: You got edge when you play with But you got

1431
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor, you got a Reid up there? Hey listening?

1432
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: They was dogs. They changed the game. If you dogs,

1433
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: what what they brought to the game. I don't think

1434
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: you know how people lose impact of players like what

1435
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: what what Eric Crouch was to the Brass or what

1436
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson was to the University of Michigan, Right, you

1437
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: know those guys what torreyt Hold is to NC State.

1438
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: Those guys, all in their own way, all got a

1439
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: legacy like that and at one school. You know, when

1440
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: you think of Tory Hope, you can't think of other

1441
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: guys from NC State who was that legendary. You know,

1442
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, You don't know a guy who who impacted

1443
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 1: uh Michigan the way that that would impacted. Uh maybe

1444
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that old guy that feeling that Brady wasn't

1445
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: even a man that man. Yeah, but he he didn't.

1446
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: He wasn't like, he wasn't the plan that he is now.

1447
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't. Nobody saw that coming when he's in college.

1448
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: What whoy did in the NFL? You to dude one

1449
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: the heisman the dude you know you saw that he

1450
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: playing offense and defense, so you knew Woody had was

1451
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: going to compete, be great. Nobody saw Tom Brady doing this,

1452
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning doing what he did. People like, this guy

1453
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: gotta be good. They've got the gonna play hell freshman,

1454
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: so he got to be good. Yeah, Like I don't

1455
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: think people you know the impact of players, Like so

1456
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: many universities have this one iconic player. You know, when

1457
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: you think of of so many of these teams, it's

1458
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: just that one icon that you look up to. But

1459
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: when you say the University of Miami, man, it could

1460
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: go either way. You got so many guys. Okay, well

1461
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: how this Frankie g I will take. I will take.

1462
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take alumni and their pride. Do you I

1463
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: want your best? Twenty two Alabama? They're best twenty two

1464
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: UFC they're best twenty two and know the name, they're

1465
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: best twenty two. We're gonna lie it up. Who wein

1466
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: you you know who s ill fans busted body the

1467
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: best swinging. Yeah, it's gonna be the only girl. The

1468
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: only place we were struggling would be offensive line. Right

1469
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: in the defensive line. Now, I love out our D

1470
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Speaker 1: line against him. I have Vic Wilford, SAP and Drone

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: like there stuff, But bro, I would definitely take our

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Speaker 1: D line. When you look at at the linebacker positions,

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01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: you got raid. No, you want to get twenty two.

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Speaker 1: You want to get twenty two. You get leveled offen

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Speaker 1: level dfense, you spent. I already know your special team

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01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: got you got helsp so you got to get so

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01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: you get you get lever defense. Hey, that's a cheap

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01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: code O. Our wire receivers, I'm taking h you talking

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01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: about Mike Wheezy Andre Johnson. Okay, so you want to

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01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: get one until since you're starting three wide receivers, you

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01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: want to get one tighten and one running back fish.

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Speaker 1: You put it like that tight end. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with shocking it. I gotta go with shocking because I know,

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Speaker 1: shocking block in and ain't gonna go catch that thing.

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Speaker 1: Running back? Oh yeah, hey, running running back, I'm gonna

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01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: leave off a full back. I had to go two

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Speaker 1: running backs. You can't go running back. You got three

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You try to play with Dwayne right, So

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Speaker 1: I gotta go one back. I might have to go

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Speaker 1: Frankie g Man. I might have to go Bro. I

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: might have to go Frankie G if I if I

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: got one running back to pick in his dog. You

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Speaker 1: gotta understand. I've seen Frankie g before in the interest, right,

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: I saw that Frankie G. I saw the Frankie g

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01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 1: that didn't wear socks, that didn't wear underwear, didn't wear gloves.

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Speaker 1: That's the Frankie I want. I want that Frankie Ga. Bro.

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01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: When you used to a kid go stick his foot

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Speaker 1: in some some clicks with no socks, so ball out.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, okay. One state Florida, Georgia, callie Ohio,

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Speaker 1: Texas when they are Florida Florida. And you know when

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I say Florida, the first name that that pop up

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01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: when I say Florida is fred T and fred T

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01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 1: don't get you know fred t don't get his credit.

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01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 1: He don't get his chest, dude. But when you say Florida,

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01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 1: that's one of the fred T, Peter Ward and Quam

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01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: Bolden like bro. It's so it's so much work came

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01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: out of Florida, especially in today's game. But I'm just

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01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: saying all together, Uh, Florida is special, and you know

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Speaker 1: I'm Mississippi and Florida. Mississippi. Don't put out you know

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01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: we got we got Jerry, we got Walter like we

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01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: got some work over. I ain't put nobody that lately,

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: little pope. Y'all got Patrick, You got Patrick Willis. You

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01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: got Patrick Willis, You got Patrick Willis. I'm going with

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01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: Florida like I'm not even I'm not even over Texas. Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Don't have it over Texas, man, Texas, Texas, we have

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: a speed. I ain't never been crazy about Texas or

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01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: California players, like you give me your best eleven in Texas,

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01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: I give you my best ever Florida. I think Florida

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01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: stump game. You know, Texas always been one of those

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Speaker 1: states that I don't think they have any the same heart,

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01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Florida and Florida kids different,

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, Texas, Texas got that heat too.

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01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: I think I think Texas and Florida name your five

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01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: best Texas players? Well all, I mean they got running back,

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01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, like Eric Dickinson and Earl Campbell. Now not

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01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Texas is known for quarterbacks. You know, they just had

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Speaker 1: Drew Breed. They got Matthew Stafford, Kyler Murray. They're kind

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01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: of no known for quarterbacks. Now they quarterbacks to doing,

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01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback doing pretty good. Yeah, but you can

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: only start one of them quarterbacks. Yeah, I ain't never

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01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: seen two quarterbacks store passing the game. Well, y'all that

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01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: got y'all. You ain't got no quarterback from your quarterback

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Speaker 1: from Florida. Oh you would take a Lamar's somebody you

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01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: take Lamar? What with the work with the athletes arounding

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01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: the heck yeah, heck yeah. Did you always know you

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Speaker 1: wanted to play the growing up in Gainsville? Obviously the

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Speaker 1: University of Florida is in Gainesville. Did you know you

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Speaker 1: always wanted to play for the University of Miami or

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01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 1: with Florida and option? I didn't every everything wasn't option

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01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: at that time. But Florida wanted me to play dB.

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: So Florida misstyle, spur your call, like, hey, we're thinking

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01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 1: about offering you at dB. What did you think? I

1543
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: think you should offer somebody else? Miami was just you know,

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: what's crazy Miami? My visit to Miami is what did

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01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: it like? Once I got around the guys and click

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01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: me Santana Bubba Franks, like we were just talking about this.

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Speaker 1: It's hall of Fame induction. Once I got somebody in me,

1548
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: it was like, this is where I'm supposed to be,

1549
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Like this is this is what feels great to me.

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01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: This is what feels good to me. Uh, this is

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01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: where I fit in, Like this is where I'm supposed

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01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: to be. So uh it was a no brand Pop man,

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01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: you got my number. I still got the same number

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01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: for twenty five years. It ain't changed. So if you

1555
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: need something, you know how to get in touch with me. Hey,

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01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: I need a hundred dollars. I just a all right, bro,

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01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 1: I reach out. I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you. Pop.

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: Be good, bro, stay strong all my life, grounding all

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01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: my life, SA fight, custle back price one slice got

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01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: the swat. All my life, I've been grinding all my life,

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01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: all my right, been running all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: bade the price, and want a slice like the broiling

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01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: dice to swap all my life. I've been running all

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Speaker 1: my life,