Speaker 1: I Am all In.
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Speaker 1: and that might be coming. In Reality Season six, episode sixteen,
Speaker 1: Bridesmaid revisited. I am joined by my intrepid Crucies and French.
Speaker 1: You know are your lover Amy Sugarman? Too bad she
Speaker 1: isn't more busy. She wouldn't be able to sleep? And
Speaker 1: how is everybody doing?
Speaker 3: How is the Tara isn't here yet because she's loading
Speaker 3: up part of the set for Wednesday and do her car,
Speaker 3: which is hilarious, right, She's got part of Luke's diner
Speaker 3: and it's sort of a Luke slash Gilmour living room
Speaker 3: shoving in the trunk of her car.
Speaker 1: Big responsibility, let me tell you pressure. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on Tara.
Speaker 3: So we wish we actually sending text she's coming, And
Speaker 3: she's in a text a minute ago and said it's fit,
Speaker 3: it's fit.
Speaker 1: Well we are, Yeah, we're still prepping. The big night
Speaker 1: was January seventeenth at the Rhart Theater, Bourbon, California. Still
Speaker 1: get tickets at our.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we're taping a couple of days out.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, So go to our Instagram page. I am all
Speaker 1: in pod Instagram. You see the links and you'll be
Speaker 1: able to get the live show tickets and the streaming tickets,
Speaker 1: which I think more of you will be able to
Speaker 1: do since this is a global audience. Yes, and man,
Speaker 1: I tell you it's just getting We may add another
Speaker 1: layer to this which we can't announce yet. But there's
Speaker 1: uh some interesting food things happening. There are food negotiations happening.
Speaker 3: Considering you're the proprietor proprietor of a diner, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Does everyone think that you know how to like cook?
Speaker 1: I do know how to cook. And once they've had
Speaker 1: my food, then they're convinced.
Speaker 3: That and they're convinced that you are Luke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cooked. I cooked some mean burgers last night
Speaker 1: for the family.
Speaker 3: You're you are out of meat this week though, because
Speaker 3: you fired the meat guy. There's no bacon at the
Speaker 3: diner right now.
Speaker 1: Not at my home. There's plenty of meat and juicy
Speaker 1: burgers abounded in our kitchen.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, Oh, I like it. Insider on
Speaker 3: the grill outside. O.
Speaker 1: No, I just do it in a pan. And to listen.
Speaker 1: My test is when my little guy bites into that
Speaker 1: burger and he's holding it perpendicular and the and and
Speaker 1: the blood comes out of the eat and hits the plate,
Speaker 1: then he gets that smile on his face. Very animalistic ritual.
Speaker 1: We perform once a week on Burgernets.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh so you do Burger Night once
Speaker 3: a week.
Speaker 1: Oh, we love it.
Speaker 3: That's so cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love it. We have our rituals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and we hope to make these live shows
Speaker 1: a ritual as well. Oh.
Speaker 3: I like how you did that.
Speaker 1: And wouldn't that be nice to have a nice family dinner.
Speaker 1: Not once a week, but maybe I don't know, a
Speaker 1: couple of times, a couple times a year, maybe every
Speaker 1: other month. We'll see. It's we'll see how it goes
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. It's shaping up to be quite the affair one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I do think it's gonna be really really fun time.
Speaker 3: So if you are in the California area on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on down and you can catch me up
Speaker 1: to CCA's on Sunday. This will probably drop Monday so
Speaker 1: I've already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wait, you're going to the Critics' Choice Awards.
Speaker 1: I am yeah. Oh goody See w one says to go,
Speaker 1: wants me to go and represent the show. We're going
Speaker 1: to do the red carpet. We're gonna be sitting in
Speaker 1: the room with the big muckety MUCKs. They're all going
Speaker 1: to I like it.
Speaker 3: That's cool. So when this, when people are listening to this,
Speaker 3: U will have gone last night. It's Friday right now,
Speaker 3: so this will air Sunday, So Scottland, you'll basically be
Speaker 3: there when this airs.
Speaker 1: Right, which explains the redness.
Speaker 3: Now, will you be wearing to the Critics' Choice Awards
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to be wearing on Wednesday? I'm nervous
Speaker 3: about that now. No, okay, good.
Speaker 1: I actually dug into my closet because I was panicked, like,
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to wear. I do have a suit.
Speaker 3: I thought of what you should wear on Wednesday?
Speaker 1: No, no, you did, because I was panicked and I
Speaker 1: text you and like, what am I going to wear
Speaker 1: this thing? Because I you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do and I want Amy's professional opinion. She like, right,
Speaker 1: I want to dress that and I told her, I
Speaker 1: want to dress up. This is a big deal. I
Speaker 1: want to you know, I'm in the Johnny Carson Jay
Speaker 1: Leno Theater for God's sake.
Speaker 3: So I'm going, So, what are you gonna wear on Sunday? What?
Speaker 3: What did you wear last night?
Speaker 1: Well, I went through my closet, didn't think I had anything.
Speaker 1: Five brand new suit with the tags.
Speaker 3: Still forget about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't go out dress fancy. So I lay
Speaker 1: them out on the bed. I find this one fan
Speaker 1: it fits like a glove. When I put it on,
Speaker 1: I actually heard the theme song to the James Bond movie.
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 3: It is true? And this was like used to be
Speaker 3: more sort of problematic. Is that like men would wear
Speaker 3: their suits they were like, were you too big? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was sort of in the nineties.
Speaker 1: It was like, this one is fitted. I like it,
Speaker 1: and it's a couple of years old. I can't even
Speaker 1: remember when I got it or how I got it.
Speaker 1: It's always it's always a photo shoot or an appearance
Speaker 1: and somebody gives you something, and so I have a
Speaker 1: ton of these things. I didn't realize it. So this
Speaker 1: thing fits. I've got a shoe issue. So I've got
Speaker 1: to get shoes for it.
Speaker 3: So we've improved upon a vineyard Valentine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have very much. I think we
Speaker 1: The bar was not too high, but this one bounded well.
Speaker 3: Yes, the craziest thing, and I'll let Suzanne do the
Speaker 3: synopsis is the guest stars, the famous now not famous
Speaker 3: then guest stars throughout this episode. It was almost like
Speaker 3: crazy too muchuld me out of the episode a little bit,
Speaker 3: but yet I was still kind of into it.
Speaker 1: It might be the best guest star episode of all time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Leslie Odom Junior, Abigail Spencer, Ard and Mirran
Speaker 3: Like it goes on and on and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. But Suzanne, I digree.
Speaker 6: All right. So this is Bride'smaids revisited. It aired on
Speaker 6: February twenty eighth, two thousand and six, which was my birthday.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, old day, I mean birthday in
Speaker 6: two thousand and six, Yeah, thank you. Rory and Logan
Speaker 6: attend Honor's wedding, but Rory finds out what Logan was
Speaker 6: really up to during their time of part Lourai plays
Speaker 6: babysitter to Christopher's daughter Gigi and Lane and Zach take
Speaker 6: a big leap in their relationship.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I know we're going to dig into it.
Speaker 3: We won't answer these questions yet, but my main questions
Speaker 3: I want to address throughout this episode is did Rory
Speaker 3: overreact or underreact Lane and Zach getting married?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: And Laura I and Gigi and Christopher? Did she handle
Speaker 3: that correctly? Not correctly? Did Christopher? So as we talk
Speaker 3: about it, I really want to dig into all.
Speaker 1: NOA.
Speaker 3: So we start with the diner, no bacon. Kirk is
Speaker 3: on a juice cleanse of some kind. He's sort of
Speaker 3: ahead of his time on that him and the food
Speaker 3: stop sniffing my fiance. Yeah, and then you know, I
Speaker 3: think the sort of important thing is that Laura Lai
Speaker 3: tells you she's going to Rory's panel discussion and that
Speaker 3: Christopher is going to be there. So she's really working
Speaker 3: hard to sort of inform you, be overly transparent right
Speaker 3: until she took Gigi for the day and didn't tell you.
Speaker 1: But whatever, it didn't matter to me. As soon as
Speaker 1: we got to that panel, I was like, why the
Speaker 1: hell isn't looked there? You know?
Speaker 3: I also was like, why so much cheek kissing? Between
Speaker 3: these it's a kiss. Yeah, we need to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I think the writers are very good at making us
Speaker 1: feel very uncomfortable about this relationship. I think they're just
Speaker 1: sticking it in, you know, they're just twisting the knife
Speaker 1: in us. Man.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it was interesting that Luke didn't go. You
Speaker 3: would have thought he would be there. But it's also
Speaker 3: like middle of the day, and it wasn't the biggest
Speaker 3: It was sort of a you.
Speaker 1: Know, I think I think it's kind of a big
Speaker 1: deal Lane. That's a pretty big deal. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: on a panel at Yale, so it's like that'd be
Speaker 1: a nice thing to attend, if you know.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a little painful light I would assume for
Speaker 3: Loralai am me to find out that Lane was spending
Speaker 3: so much time with April. Not that I didn't think
Speaker 3: Lane should spend time with April, but that Loralai hasn't
Speaker 3: been included. And obviously Luke has no issue. I thought
Speaker 3: they got a little sideways on all the games and
Speaker 3: the battleship, and I didn't care.
Speaker 1: So he hasn't once, he hasn't he hasn't once invited
Speaker 1: her to spend any time with the two of them,
Speaker 1: has he or no, Susanna, No, that's correct. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's a little odd.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I I this this whole opening gave me kind
Speaker 6: of some big feelings because you could really see when
Speaker 6: Lane was talking about, you know, I played this game
Speaker 6: with April and she she seems to know April well,
Speaker 6: and Laurelai is like trying to contribute to the conversation, like, well,
Speaker 6: I used to play games like you can see she's
Speaker 6: kind of sad that Blayne is forming a relationship with April,
Speaker 6: and yet she's not even allowed to be in the
Speaker 6: same room with her, Right, it's weird. So I already
Speaker 6: started out kind of annoyed with Luke at that whole
Speaker 6: scenario or the situation in line later because she mentions
Speaker 6: the games later when Gigi comes in, so talk about
Speaker 6: that when we get there.
Speaker 3: But is it Luke not quote allowing her or is
Speaker 3: Laura Lai not clushing it? Like for me, it's all
Speaker 3: sort of like what's going on?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Luke trying to protect her. Lauraized
Speaker 1: feelings that she couldn't handle something like that. I think
Speaker 1: Laura I can handle any situation, right, I mean she's
Speaker 1: very adaptable. She can fit into you can plug her
Speaker 1: into any situation, and she's going to thrive. I just
Speaker 1: think it's a weird Luke quirk that I wasn't aware of,
Speaker 1: and now it's coming to the fore and it's a
Speaker 1: bit odd, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is there.
Speaker 6: There is this when we get there's an episode coming
Speaker 6: up where he actually says why he's acting like this.
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to give any spoilers.
Speaker 1: You have four knowledge. It's not fair, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know all it's not fair. Do hit us over the
Speaker 1: head with the Susan I know, all sword over our heads?
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're sort of like mystified.
Speaker 6: I think she's trying to let Luke take the lead
Speaker 6: because he's the one that has the kid, and so
Speaker 6: you know, she's trying to let him take the lead
Speaker 6: on bringing her in. But at the same time, he's
Speaker 6: just completely oblivious to her feelings. And like I said,
Speaker 6: when we talked about the Martha's Vineyard episode, I had
Speaker 6: hoped that he kind of he almost was like on
Speaker 6: the edge of an epiphany right there, like, hey, I'm
Speaker 6: kind of screwing this up. And I'd hoped that it
Speaker 6: would get better and he would start kind of integrating
Speaker 6: her into that relationship. But now we see it's really
Speaker 6: not happening that way yet.
Speaker 1: Is it that he feels so secure and they're so
Speaker 1: good in their relationship, so solid and rounded, that it's
Speaker 1: like she's giving me my space and I'll just take
Speaker 1: the space.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I think you're onto something. First of all,
Speaker 3: Susanne said that so well, and Scott, I think you're
Speaker 3: getting where my head is at. It's sort of like
Speaker 3: he's almost just thinking this is how she wants it
Speaker 3: to so he's like, Okay, you know, I don't think
Speaker 3: he's intentionally trying to even control the situation. I think
Speaker 3: he thinks, like, oh, this is just how we're both
Speaker 3: equally deciding it to be right.
Speaker 6: Right, even though it wasn't equal at all.
Speaker 1: That's right, I was right. Yeah it's unspoken, but yeah
Speaker 1: it is not. It is not equitable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So that's interesting. That sort of is
Speaker 3: subtext of this sort of you know, kind of goof
Speaker 3: somewhat goofy scene with Kirk. So then we go to
Speaker 3: the paper and we're sort of continuing to realize how
Speaker 3: unhinged Harris is Doyle sort of dealing with it.
Speaker 1: She's in the eye. She wouldn't look Rory in the eye.
Speaker 3: That was a stick, right, And she's like my favorite
Speaker 3: part of So two things are happening. First they see
Speaker 3: the credits and you see Abigail Spencer, ardmir and Leslie
Speaker 3: Odam Junior, all these names of people that you're like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, they really went on to do more. And
Speaker 3: then I loved there's a Saw to shout out yes,
Speaker 3: which I thought was so funny because you haven't even
Speaker 3: done Saw whatever one you were in.
Speaker 1: Were you in four, four and five?
Speaker 3: Right? So it's like it was so you know what's
Speaker 3: in a crystal ball, knowing, Hey, we're gonna give Saw
Speaker 3: a shout out? Maybe Saw people are watching. Then they
Speaker 3: discover Scott and put you in the movie. You were
Speaker 3: in two of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't die in Thaw was supposed to be
Speaker 1: in three.
Speaker 3: Did you die in Saw five?
Speaker 1: I died in Yes at the end of five, So
Speaker 1: you didn't do sick because the big money in the
Speaker 1: contract was coming in six and they didn't want to
Speaker 1: pay me.
Speaker 3: I love it. I gotta I gotta rewatch it, but
Speaker 3: I say that every time. So we kind of get
Speaker 3: the gist of Doyle and Rory are chatting and you
Speaker 3: sort of realize like, oh, paris kind of a mess, right,
Speaker 3: And it was fine.
Speaker 1: It was inevitable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sort of later enjoy it was a nice
Speaker 3: setup for the bar scene later, so we sort of
Speaker 3: had to have it to get there. Then we go
Speaker 3: to the music store and Lane's going in to hang
Speaker 3: her sign and she realizes there Zach playing banjo.
Speaker 1: That song was so funny. It was so good. It
Speaker 1: was so good.
Speaker 3: Joel's still around.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joel just killed it. You know what? What what
Speaker 1: that is some facial can Can we just talk about
Speaker 1: the mutton chops on steroids on Joel? How great is that? Look?
Speaker 1: I mean that is a talk about a muppet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, legit. And then you start to realize like, ooh,
Speaker 3: Zach's feeling something. We're not totally sure yet what's going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 1: But wow, best episode I've seen with Zach.
Speaker 3: I agree, I totally killed it.
Speaker 1: He just killed it because yeah, this.
Speaker 3: The Mitzvah scene is great as well as in the
Speaker 3: diner when we get the big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd Low killed it in this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, it was great. So then we
Speaker 3: get Rory and her fancy outfit for the panel, which
Speaker 3: was a bit sexy for the panel.
Speaker 1: I thought it was you you know, I'm not even
Speaker 1: going to comment because I don't want to get the
Speaker 1: emails so I will. Don't you no idea what you're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: It was a very cute outfit that was probably a
Speaker 3: bit low cut for a Yale panel, but you do
Speaker 3: you boot like whatever?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very.
Speaker 3: Cute, very cute. And Logan was in his tie and
Speaker 3: he looked very cute because he was heading to the
Speaker 3: rehearsal wedding rehearsal, which he has his sort of bit
Speaker 3: about why am I have to go to this?
Speaker 1: Can I just say something here? Logan's an alcoholic. He's
Speaker 1: drinking hard stuff in the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was having a cocktail. I put a note
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: That ain't no more.
Speaker 3: I don't know that it was seven am, though I
Speaker 3: kind of thought it was more like one. But I
Speaker 3: think what we're supposed to understand is that he needs
Speaker 3: that because he's heading to this train wreck with his family.
Speaker 6: I think kil I think he actually, if I'm remembering correctly,
Speaker 6: they did actually say the time was two o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wedding rehearsal.
Speaker 6: He's already drinking and then she makes a comment about
Speaker 6: how he could he can take his flask with him
Speaker 6: to get through the red right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, correct, not ideal.
Speaker 1: Boy's got a lot on his mind. Let's just say that.
Speaker 3: I do like the kiss. I do like their entryway.
Speaker 3: We do sort of realize it's a big, a very
Speaker 3: very large studio.
Speaker 1: Right with a walk in closet.
Speaker 3: Loft, right, but it is one very big room, right.
Speaker 3: And he comes back and says, you look incredible. Knock
Speaker 3: him dead?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: That was cute?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was perfect because it was like, as soon
Speaker 1: as they closed the doing like, where's the kiss? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Boom?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a cute scene. Fine, and maybe belabored
Speaker 3: the wedding rehearsal bit a tab bit too much, but
Speaker 3: otherwise we are.
Speaker 1: Being let around by our nose rings by the writing staff.
Speaker 3: Yes. So then we get to the panel and Chris
Speaker 3: has had a haircut and I thought the kiss that
Speaker 3: was the first cheek kiss, which I thought, okay that
Speaker 3: it wasn't. I noticed it.
Speaker 1: It was too baby, it was too much. It was
Speaker 1: one sided, and kiss really dug his lips into her cheek.
Speaker 3: It was a lot.
Speaker 1: It was not a friendly thing. It was like we're
Speaker 1: in a relationship deal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't. It wasn't a fan. I did like
Speaker 6: the haircut. I thought the short hair looked good, but
Speaker 6: I'm just generally not a Christopher fan, and I thought
Speaker 6: he was a little like I felt like he was
Speaker 6: kind of trying too hard, like he was trying to
Speaker 6: be witty with the jokes and yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you know, he doesn't know any vocabulary words,
Speaker 1: so that kind of wipes that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind this part. I have more critique
Speaker 3: later when with the gg sitch, but we'll get to that.
Speaker 3: There was a funny milk deadline, Yes, should I done him?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Out of Do you know what the feeling I get
Speaker 1: from the situation is that Christopher is holding on to
Speaker 1: hope that they are going to get back together. So
Speaker 1: there's like some Emily in him, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: interest And that's the thing that's a little jarring.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's like it's sort of in the back
Speaker 3: of his mind, like you can tell it. It's not
Speaker 3: like he knows. He sort of has no chance right now.
Speaker 3: But I don't think he ever thinks he actually has
Speaker 3: no chance?
Speaker 1: But is he right? Is he? Is he really respecting
Speaker 1: that boundary right that she's in a committed relationship, does
Speaker 1: it get to like, hey, we're a family again, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. It's almost like it's it's very subliminal, right,
Speaker 3: But it's almost like he sort of is always like,
Speaker 3: even though she's got this, I'm still the priority. I'll
Speaker 3: always be the priority because I'm the.
Speaker 6: Father whatever, right, And and the way you said it
Speaker 6: was some liminal. I agree with that because I noticed
Speaker 6: I've seen this episode a lot of times, but for
Speaker 6: the first time when I rewatched it last night and
Speaker 6: noticed for the first time that the way that the
Speaker 6: scene was blocked, they it really seemed like they were
Speaker 6: trying to emphasize the three of them as a family,
Speaker 6: Like when they finished the panels standing together and she
Speaker 6: joins them and they have a group hug. I don't know,
Speaker 6: just the way they were all arranged in the shot,
Speaker 6: I'm like, hmm, I think the writers are trying to
Speaker 6: make us think a certain way here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're creating tension, building tension, which is what they
Speaker 1: have to do because there's no more tension left in
Speaker 1: the Luke Lorelei getting together. So now it's a new.
Speaker 3: So this is where we see Leslie Odom Junior, which
Speaker 3: a young sort of before he was a star Leslie
Speaker 3: Odom Junior, except I did not understand one thing he
Speaker 3: was saying in the panel, like anything that they were
Speaker 3: sort of saying, I was like, didn't get it.
Speaker 6: I think they were trying to emphasize that these people
Speaker 6: are just on a Harry plane of intellectuality, that the
Speaker 6: rest of us just aspire to right.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And that he was, you know, espousing opinions based on
Speaker 1: no experience in Rory slammed him for that.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you get the gist that she nailed it.
Speaker 3: She did great. The crowds with her there, you know,
Speaker 3: Chris and Laurli are like we created her she and laughs.
Speaker 3: Then she has to take a rain check because she
Speaker 3: can't go get a milkshake or whatever. They whatever, sort
Speaker 3: of like fifties collogy.
Speaker 1: Let's and let's not talk ethics unless you're in the
Speaker 1: real world, pal, you know.
Speaker 3: Come on, right, So then we kind of have that.
Speaker 3: I think the conversation between Chris and Lorelai that he
Speaker 3: wants to take his mom to see the fathers, you know,
Speaker 3: at the father's fought at the cemetery, and the single
Speaker 3: parent thing is hard, and he's trying to get her
Speaker 3: into school, and I think this is where Laura Li
Speaker 3: says I'll take her. I think they're walking out or something,
Speaker 3: and you're like, that's weird.
Speaker 5: It's a weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting a little too chummy there and uh
Speaker 1: in that world. But we're but I just again, I
Speaker 1: think we're just it's good writing. It's where's what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to feel. We're supposed to feel awkward and uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: We're suppose the tension is supposed to ramp up. So
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 6: It's all good, right, And it's it's setting up a
Speaker 6: contrast which is starting to make me a little uncomfortable
Speaker 6: because we have Luke who is saying no, no, no,
Speaker 6: you can't be a part of my kid's life. And
Speaker 6: now we have Christopher who's like, here, take my kid.
Speaker 3: For the afternoon. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's making me a little nervous.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's getting too far down the road
Speaker 1: there with these three and they're going to get together.
Speaker 3: Again, that's an important call out, Susan. I think there
Speaker 3: that like right, Chris is so like sakre be involved,
Speaker 3: like yeah, blah blah blah. So then we get to
Speaker 3: the scene, the scene at the bot mitzvah. So you know,
Speaker 3: the minute you walk in, you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: here it is.
Speaker 7: You can hear his voice, Oh beautiful?
Speaker 3: Is that a montage he did? I pulled the lyrics
Speaker 3: because it's not all of Haulla back Girl, right, like
Speaker 3: he's created sort of a montage.
Speaker 1: Well, he did his own.
Speaker 3: It was a segment of it, right, So he says,
Speaker 3: So that's right, dude, meet me at the bleachers. No principles,
Speaker 3: no student teachers. Both of us want to be the winner,
Speaker 3: but there can only be one. So I'm gonna fight,
Speaker 3: gonna give it my all, gonna make you fall, gonna
Speaker 3: sock it to you. That's right. I'm the last one
Speaker 3: standing and another one bites the dust. A few times.
Speaker 3: I've been around that track, so it's not just gonna
Speaker 3: happen like that. I ain't no Hala back girl. I
Speaker 3: ain't no Halla back girl.
Speaker 7: And yeah, hello, Tara has gotten the rug yes in
Speaker 7: a trunk and she is now here.
Speaker 1: All right, good job, good job.
Speaker 3: We're jumping in at there. You're joining us at the
Speaker 3: bot Mitzvah.
Speaker 8: Oh perfect.
Speaker 3: The bot Mitzvah was iconic. Gil's speech is sort of
Speaker 3: oh gody and amazing.
Speaker 6: I had to laugh when Brian said, I think you
Speaker 6: used too much whammy bar on my humps, because that
Speaker 6: just I just bust it out trying to think of
Speaker 6: them doing my humps.
Speaker 3: My hump. It's so good. The party's iconic because it's like,
Speaker 3: first of all, I don't know if you guys all
Speaker 3: watched the Adam Sandler movie about the bot Mitzvah that
Speaker 3: just came out that everyone watched. Oh, it is really good,
Speaker 3: and that that bot Mitzvah is like, you know, the
Speaker 3: six figure bot Mitzvah so over the top. And this
Speaker 3: one is sort of the classic nineties early two thousand's,
Speaker 3: like we're in some sort of a weird room at
Speaker 3: a hotel or like at a like.
Speaker 6: A wreck hall.
Speaker 3: So that call, yeah, like I was gonna say it
Speaker 3: like the veterans all with the sort of cutout decor,
Speaker 3: all the kids jamming. I just loved everything about it.
Speaker 3: And then that this is where Zach has this big
Speaker 3: speech and moment to get the band back together, the
Speaker 3: whole thing. I was just like, this is so.
Speaker 8: Rad, you know.
Speaker 6: I had a little tiny flag on this though, because
Speaker 6: I thought it was interesting that Brian and Gil stayed
Speaker 6: together but they didn't keep Lane with them like they
Speaker 6: had some other guy on drum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe she chose that. She maybe just was
Speaker 3: like I'm out.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's too painful.
Speaker 3: She doesn't want to do bot mitzvahs, right. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I also in the beginning she was talking about how she,
Speaker 6: you know, she's making that flyer, that she wants to
Speaker 6: be in a band again and she misses playing and
Speaker 6: she wants to be in a band again.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just thought it was kind of
Speaker 3: interesting that those two. Do you think Lane wants to
Speaker 3: be playing hav Anigila. I don't, But to me it
Speaker 3: was like, maybe she doesn't want to be doing the
Speaker 3: bot mitzvah circuit. And Brian were like, I think it's more.
Speaker 1: I think it's just more that it's it's ruined for
Speaker 1: her because of the exact thing. Yeah, it's just like
Speaker 1: it's no, I just let me scrub this some start
Speaker 1: anew with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just like that the Feldman boy was
Speaker 3: eating Maraschino cherries.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Tom, I would say my flag was really really random.
Speaker 4: But when they stopped playing and they're like, all right,
Speaker 4: we're gonna get ready, it's like it was just silent,
Speaker 4: like no.
Speaker 8: Party is there were just like silence. I was like,
Speaker 8: can we put like a backtrack on or something.
Speaker 3: Like God the kid shoving the Marashino cherries and it's
Speaker 3: just all more rough.
Speaker 1: Actually turned away on that one.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so good. All right, So then
Speaker 3: we go Now Logan and Rory are back together at
Speaker 3: the wedding. There's someone's looking for their cufflings. I think
Speaker 3: Josh is looking. Somebody's looking for their cuflings. Rory looks
Speaker 3: very cute. She's in a great dress with a great coat.
Speaker 3: The brides in the wedding sweats, which seemed like all
Speaker 3: those bridesmaids and brides were in juicy sweats.
Speaker 8: I was like, are they Yeah? Yeah, that was so
Speaker 8: the era to.
Speaker 3: The wedding planner, the whole thing. So I thought, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is all great. We're getting the setup of the wedding.
Speaker 3: Then we go back to the house where Christopher has
Speaker 3: dropped off Gigi, and that was insane to me.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when a child is in discipline.
Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. That's how they are.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I've never seen a kid hackling
Speaker 3: that I have. I have that was really over the top.
Speaker 1: I have, no, No, that is not over the top.
Speaker 4: Actually no, that's just a kid who gets told yes
Speaker 4: whatever they want, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they turn into monsters. They do wow and
Speaker 1: they scream at the top of their lungs and it's
Speaker 1: it's wild. It's just absolutely wild. And that was even
Speaker 1: a that was a mild version of some of a
Speaker 1: spoiled kid.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Lorlai was really calm.
Speaker 4: If that happened at my house, I would be losing
Speaker 4: my mind. Yeah, like I would actually have a panic attack.
Speaker 3: I don't think I would like sharpie on my hardwood floor, yeah,
Speaker 3: my new hardwood floors. Yeah, that would be stressful.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they just remodeled, yeah, yeah new.
Speaker 3: So we kind of are getting the scene. There's a
Speaker 3: funny full house shout out. There's they kiss again. There's
Speaker 3: a Christopher kiss again. So that was sort of man,
Speaker 3: these two kiss a lot, right.
Speaker 1: They're kissing there. They know how to get on our nerves.
Speaker 1: They really really know how to get under our skin.
Speaker 1: And when I say us, I mean the fan base.
Speaker 3: No exactly, of course.
Speaker 1: Guys, lunch is here. I have to eat. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Can you keep talking about you?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yeah, okay, my apologies.
Speaker 3: Don't what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm starving.
Speaker 3: You're even going since five am? You're good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starving. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Okay. So then we go from Lorelei's house, which still
Speaker 3: to me, I was like, Gigis, She's like a devil child.
Speaker 3: But anyway, then we get to the bridesmaids and we've
Speaker 3: got all the bridesmaids dealing with their looks, and they're
Speaker 3: warning worry about the dignitaries, and we're trying to get
Speaker 3: honors slingbacks on and YadA YadA, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you know, I already was nervous because I knew. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I know what's coming. And then one of the bridesmaids
Speaker 3: talks about how she wants to hook up, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's like, been there, done that, and
Speaker 3: you just realize, oh my god, they've all been with
Speaker 3: Logan all of them, which is also so weird.
Speaker 8: I thought I didn't think it was that surprising actually.
Speaker 4: Just knowing, I was like, I was shocked that Rory
Speaker 4: was as shocked as she was the timing and we'll
Speaker 4: get there the timing that they talked about, yes, but
Speaker 4: like I was, like, doesn't she expect that he slept
Speaker 4: with all these girls, let's.
Speaker 3: Say, his sister's friends. That's creepy and gross, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was my thing.
Speaker 6: I knew he's been with a lot of people, but
Speaker 6: like his sister's friends, Like, he could have probably any
Speaker 6: woman that he wanted. That's what I think. He's rotating
Speaker 6: through his sister's friends.
Speaker 4: Like that was Oh see, I just thought he was
Speaker 4: I didn't think that was abnormal because like, well, it's also.
Speaker 3: Weird friend code. Right, So let's let's suspend disbelief and
Speaker 3: they Okay, he's going to hook up with one of
Speaker 3: his sister's friends. I just don't think all of them
Speaker 3: of them after one of them. Right, So, say you've
Speaker 3: got a best friend group, Like if my best friend
Speaker 3: Lisa kisses somebody in the group, I don't think our
Speaker 3: other five friends are going to also go. Right. That's
Speaker 3: where right, that's a girl. He said, bridesmaids not have
Speaker 3: any code with each other.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's troubling. I don't know. It was just
Speaker 8: a weird one.
Speaker 1: She just kept saying she didn't care she sleep with anybody.
Speaker 1: That one. Yeah, yeah, she was hysterical.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so casting note on that scene, that bridesmaid who
Speaker 6: said she would sleep with anybody. She was also one
Speaker 6: of the debutantes at Rory's coming out. She was no
Speaker 6: one talking about her lipstick and all that.
Speaker 3: So Abigail Spencer, who obviously was on Grey's Anatomy and
Speaker 3: she was on that time travel show that I Love
Speaker 3: with Matt Lantern.
Speaker 1: That working which one was in.
Speaker 3: She's a dark haired one.
Speaker 6: The brunette with the long hair.
Speaker 3: She's on that new show with Donald Faison and John Cryer.
Speaker 1: She had she had a great turn phrase there and
Speaker 1: that that was a really fun scene. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: They're all talented. So Arden Mieran, who's going to be
Speaker 3: on with us, has gone on to do many things. Susan,
Speaker 3: do you know the name of the actress that was
Speaker 3: also the debutante?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 6: I did until you just asked that.
Speaker 8: By the way, Abigail. Abigail was on suits. I didn't realize.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she also what was that great time travel?
Speaker 3: Somebody look up?
Speaker 8: Oh timeless, timeless.
Speaker 3: That was so good.
Speaker 6: And the other bridesmaid with the short hair that was
Speaker 6: ed herman's daughter.
Speaker 8: No way, no way.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, they really just put a great group
Speaker 3: of bridesmaids together.
Speaker 8: So I will say the banter between them was great,
Speaker 8: totally fun.
Speaker 3: Hiding the pain.
Speaker 4: Too, yeah, I mean not a fun scene, but the
Speaker 4: banter between them was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, but uh yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: rough and she has to hide it, and then you
Speaker 3: sort of see her I mean combination of like shock,
Speaker 3: her sadness, disappointment, just the whole thing. All the error
Speaker 3: is just sucked out of that would have been even
Speaker 3: if on some level she forgives him. Oh Samantha Shelton,
Speaker 3: that's who the other one was. Yeah, that's it. So
Speaker 3: even if she knows they were broken up on a
Speaker 3: break it was very friends with that, it still sucks.
Speaker 3: It doesn't sucks.
Speaker 6: It's still shocking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sucks because she didn't go out and do that.
Speaker 1: No, it's a double standard almost right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And also.
Speaker 4: Like she again, she didn't realize they were ever separated.
Speaker 4: She just thought they were on a break not talking.
Speaker 3: What is on a break? Though? If you're on a break,
Speaker 3: doesn't that mean you can go kiss girls?
Speaker 4: I don't think you have I think you have to
Speaker 4: equally decide that though.
Speaker 8: I think you have to be like, are we just
Speaker 8: not going to see each other for two weeks and
Speaker 8: not talk.
Speaker 4: Or are we going out and dating other people and
Speaker 4: then we'll come back together. I think you have to, Like,
Speaker 4: I think you have to decide as a couple, parameters.
Speaker 1: Parameters were not negotiated in this one.
Speaker 3: No, But I think Logan. I don't think Logan was
Speaker 3: wrong in sort of thinking they were broken up, because
Speaker 3: the fight in the pub was pretty major, and I
Speaker 3: sort of was like, that seems like they're broken up,
Speaker 3: but they never broken up. Now.
Speaker 1: Look, I think the question in her mind is we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be in love. You said you love me.
Speaker 1: How can you sleep with somebody else because we're on
Speaker 1: a break.
Speaker 3: Oh, he hadn't said it yet, right, he hadn't said
Speaker 3: it yet. She'd said it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and also Logan he he doesn't know what a
Speaker 4: relationship is like, So I'm not trying to say what
Speaker 4: he did was okay, But I think in his head
Speaker 4: he doesn't know how this works. When fer Rory, if
Speaker 4: someone's in an argument, you have an argument, you maybe
Speaker 4: don't talk for a day, and then you just like
Speaker 4: figure it out.
Speaker 8: You kind of move past it, like with anyone you love,
Speaker 8: friend's family.
Speaker 4: Like you get into an argument and then you pick
Speaker 4: up the next day and you're like, hey, we did
Speaker 4: that happens.
Speaker 1: I think that's an excuse that guys use. They don't
Speaker 1: know how that works. Now they know how it works.
Speaker 8: Do you think in this moment Logan knew now he.
Speaker 3: Thought they were broken up. He thought they were broken up.
Speaker 3: He says it, we were broken up, and she says
Speaker 3: we were taking a break, And I think, look, I
Speaker 3: don't condone Logan, like, I don't think you should break
Speaker 3: up with somebody. In four seconds later, you're sleeping with
Speaker 3: your sister's bridesmaids. That being said, I don't know that
Speaker 3: he I think he was hurt. He says that later
Speaker 3: in this you know, two scenes away, he was distraught
Speaker 3: and he's just doing it. Was like drinking, right, so
Speaker 3: he's like drinking out of his flask and like that.
Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe his insecurity made him do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't think he was worthy of her in the
Speaker 1: first place, and now that's confirmed. So he's just gonna
Speaker 1: screw it, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, Because I do think Look when they have that
Speaker 3: fight in the pub and off they go. If I
Speaker 3: was just a bystander, I'd be like, well, those duo
Speaker 3: just broke up, and I don't really there is no
Speaker 3: like what so she needed a formal conversation or paperwork
Speaker 3: saying we broken up? It's like, no, they had this
Speaker 3: massive fight. She basically tells him to hit the road.
Speaker 3: They're broken up. Do you think Ross and Rachel were
Speaker 3: broken up?
Speaker 8: I feel like that's like the forever argument.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like no one's that were gonna figure that one out?
Speaker 8: Is that really where like we were on a break?
Speaker 8: Really like we were on a break.
Speaker 4: I knew it was from that, but I'm like we
Speaker 4: all now referred to it as like really that's why.
Speaker 3: So that's why this storyline. You're like they were on
Speaker 3: a break or they were broken up. It's the same thing.
Speaker 8: Wait, so what do you think about friends? If if
Speaker 8: we're just comparing, I think.
Speaker 3: That they were on a break, But that if Ross
Speaker 3: he didn't cheat because they were on a break.
Speaker 6: Because didn't they I'm trying to remember, it's been a
Speaker 6: while since I've seen that Friends episode.
Speaker 3: But didn't they.
Speaker 6: Literally say they said, and they need a break right
Speaker 6: of us?
Speaker 3: Like they they literally named it a break, right, and
Speaker 3: and that's what Rory said. We were on a break.
Speaker 3: Isn't a break? A break? To me is a temporary
Speaker 3: break up.
Speaker 8: But did they say that to each other?
Speaker 4: Scott's like, Scott's just like listening, sitting back eating listic.
Speaker 4: But like, but that's the thing, is like Rory and
Speaker 4: or Logan never said it to each other.
Speaker 8: I think that makes a difference.
Speaker 3: True. I guess true way a minute.
Speaker 1: If you're a couple and things are going well, you
Speaker 1: have a blowout fight like that, you if you say
Speaker 1: let's take a break because it's so heated, then the
Speaker 1: chances are greater that you're going to end up breaking up.
Speaker 1: After the break is over, then you are getting back together,
Speaker 1: because if you were going to get back together, you
Speaker 1: would talk the next day.
Speaker 3: I agree, Scott, right, Like they were on such a
Speaker 3: break right, So Rory and Logan did not talk. It's
Speaker 3: not like they had that big fight and then the
Speaker 3: next day they talked, it was like days on days on.
Speaker 1: Days, nobody's reaching out to resolve they were broken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Logan is kind of right. Like I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say he was a thousand percent right, but he
Speaker 3: was sort of right.
Speaker 1: I think they're both right.
Speaker 3: I think you're right, Scott. I think they're both right,
Speaker 3: And it's just two perspectives and two things can be true.
Speaker 8: And how many girls did you hook up with?
Speaker 3: Like a lot?
Speaker 4: But that's Logan but like no, I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: think like realistically, like you how many they were apart
Speaker 4: for like the whole holiday season.
Speaker 3: But I didn't get that he hooked up with all
Speaker 3: of them during the that I sort of also thought
Speaker 3: somewhere before Rory, I don't know, I was confused on that.
Speaker 6: We know that just amongst the bridesmaids, he slept with
Speaker 6: two of them and fooled around with the third one.
Speaker 6: But there osridesmaids, I mean, right, right, we don't know exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know one, not like I'm saying it's
Speaker 4: a pass. But if you're on a break, one is
Speaker 4: like okay, if you're going with that many girls, then like.
Speaker 8: All right, dude, you know yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean some people eat ice c guys like you don't
Speaker 3: know Logan now I know, but like six girls and
Speaker 3: Rory every day at his house and someone knocked on
Speaker 3: the door, like it was so crazy.
Speaker 8: But like every day someone's what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't write, it's a it's also still a
Speaker 3: TV show. So we go back to lower Lies and
Speaker 3: Gigi is just totally unhinged. It's just totally crazy. She's screaming,
Speaker 3: and then the line is funny, wait till your father
Speaker 3: gets home, Like, but it was also just so like
Speaker 3: this kid's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the kid's fault, though. It shocking that Christopher
Speaker 1: is not an effective parent. I did, but I do,
Speaker 1: I do under I do empathize with him. It's hard
Speaker 1: to say no to your kid, but you got to
Speaker 1: learn to do it, Yeah, because you're not You're not
Speaker 1: serving them by saying yes all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can relate. You have one kid, so it's
Speaker 3: so hard, you know, like you I get it, but like, right,
Speaker 3: you can't just say yes all that.
Speaker 1: But he's he's a sweetheart, he's a good boy. He knows,
Speaker 1: he knows the boundaries.
Speaker 3: He just that's probably because you did it from the
Speaker 3: beginning too, right, Oh yes, yep. So okay, So then
Speaker 3: we go back and now we have Rory and Logan.
Speaker 3: So Logan comes in and Rory has not attended the
Speaker 3: wedding and has just stayed in that room, and you
Speaker 3: sort of get the like you made me walk into
Speaker 3: a room full of girls you had sex with that
Speaker 3: we have the debate did he cheat in his mind?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: In her mind, yes, he loves her. He was lonely
Speaker 3: and depressed, and I why would he tell her?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Like, was he supposed to tell her?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Do you guys think on that?
Speaker 1: No, because that's ending the relationship. Because if he tells her,
Speaker 1: if he calls her and says, hey, I met somebody
Speaker 1: and he makes a big meal out of this and
Speaker 1: a big deal out of it, that means maybe he
Speaker 1: loves her. Why is she Why is he telling me this?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: That's the tough part to interpret, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have told her either. It's like they
Speaker 3: were broken.
Speaker 1: Up because and then he makes if he makes a
Speaker 1: phone call and says in a general sense, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: going to see other people. That's also to her that
Speaker 1: we're broken up. Yes, they're not going to do that.
Speaker 8: Do you think so?
Speaker 3: I agree?
Speaker 4: I agree, Like he wouldn't have told her, but he
Speaker 4: knows his sister's friends and that group and they're all gossips,
Speaker 4: Like did you not think that? I feel like logan,
Speaker 4: if you me smart guy, that they would just start
Speaker 4: chit chatting at some point and gossiping and like, oh
Speaker 4: I or at least warn her, like some of those
Speaker 4: girls that you're going to agree with that too.
Speaker 3: I agree with you there because some of them a
Speaker 3: lot more.
Speaker 1: Nervous, Like he's just smart guy that drinks it too
Speaker 1: in the afternoon and carries around.
Speaker 3: Flask Right, he should have been more nervous.
Speaker 1: And he's twenty.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was like way too cool about it.
Speaker 4: Like even let's say, even if he didn't hook up
Speaker 4: with some of those girls on their break, he hooks.
Speaker 8: Up with some before they were together, right, it would
Speaker 8: be awkward.
Speaker 1: Listen all it is it's it's it's a classic case
Speaker 1: of reversion to the mean, which means he's in a
Speaker 1: an outlier relationship that he's never been in before. He's
Speaker 1: in love. Now that's taken. Uh, there's an obstacle. Now
Speaker 1: they're they're somewhat broken up. He's going to revert to
Speaker 1: the mean old behavior. That's his old behavior. So that's
Speaker 1: what he's going back to.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's Scandival. They all do this. They date
Speaker 3: like scand of all, Tom sand of Aal was dating
Speaker 3: Arianna and Rachel. It's like a mess, like who the
Speaker 3: hell is that? Everybody listening knows. Everybody listening knows, so.
Speaker 6: Don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding my French fries.
Speaker 3: So it's like it happens. Guys don't think like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's the ultimate dopeye in the pool you swim in.
Speaker 3: But they but everybody does it, you know, I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: So anyway, I thought it was interesting when they were
Speaker 6: back at the apartment getting ready and he he was
Speaker 6: talking badly about them and calling them names like I
Speaker 6: forget what he said, like bimbo and blow and stuff, and.
Speaker 3: But he slept with that, Like I.
Speaker 6: Don't know, I just had.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 6: He was kind of denigrating them to Rory that he
Speaker 6: slept with all of them. I thought that was a
Speaker 6: look for him, exactly.
Speaker 3: Look agree. So all right, we kind of have that
Speaker 3: situation and it's very sort of awful. It kind of
Speaker 3: was like, oh oh, so then we go back to
Speaker 3: the diner and Kirk is eating people's remains on their cross.
Speaker 3: Zach comes in. First of all, I was like, who's
Speaker 3: Babett sitting with? She was like, with a dude?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I noticed that too. It wasn't anyone we've seen.
Speaker 3: Before, and then I thought it was yeah, I didn't
Speaker 3: know that guy. So then it was sort of funny
Speaker 3: because Lane and Zach are having this very loud, intense
Speaker 3: conversation in what's quite a small diner, and half the
Speaker 3: diner is fully paying tension only to Layne and Zach.
Speaker 3: But then you had some rando diners that just kept
Speaker 3: eating and.
Speaker 8: I'm like, They're like, this is normal, but.
Speaker 1: This is normal.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, what is going on? Because at first
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, the whole place is listening, and
Speaker 3: then I'm like except for that table, like so that
Speaker 3: was which was kind of closer to them.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I got jealous. I thought that proposal was a
Speaker 1: heck of a lot better than Luc and laurelize.
Speaker 3: It really is it real? It? Get the will you
Speaker 3: marry me? Lane says yes, got the whole deal. Wait
Speaker 3: did Bibet or Kirk or both say kiss? Him sugar
Speaker 3: us both. Yeah, that was the best. So that was
Speaker 3: a great scene. A little too soon for them to
Speaker 3: be getting engaged in my humble opinion, but yet great scene.
Speaker 4: It just felt I don't know, I'm I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: a little bit of a hater. I'm not a of
Speaker 4: some of these scenes with Lane and like her relationship,
Speaker 4: just because it's so like, like they weren't even together
Speaker 4: now they're engaged, like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: it's just we went from like zero to one hundred
Speaker 4: and I kind of just like let it slide.
Speaker 8: But I don't know, I kind.
Speaker 6: Of felt the same way, like I was happy that
Speaker 6: Lane was happy, but at the same time, I'm like,
Speaker 6: that was like you would have expected at least like
Speaker 6: a high how are you doing kind of phone call
Speaker 6: or something like just but like you said, to go
Speaker 6: straight from.
Speaker 3: Being broken up to being engaged sort of romantic. He
Speaker 3: got them ring. I'm kind of into it. I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm going to respect y'all, but I'm like, you know
Speaker 3: what great.
Speaker 1: Luke Steiner is a place you want to go for
Speaker 1: really abrupt propositions.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it likes to be that's the new slogan.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with Lane and Zach, Like, I'm not like
Speaker 3: they're not my favorite, but I'm not like irritated by that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, it's okay.
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Speaker 3: So we go back and Gigi's asleep in Rory's room
Speaker 3: and the mess and the books and it's just a
Speaker 3: big mess. She's very hard to handle. She tells Chris
Speaker 3: and it becomes an argument, which I thought was like, wow,
Speaker 3: that's where you go. I get it, but also like
Speaker 3: he is enabling this kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got very angry very quickly.
Speaker 4: Did there.
Speaker 8: I was about to say the same thing it went.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it escalated quickly and for no reason, like he
Speaker 4: started to you.
Speaker 6: Know, she's a mess, Like have some aware everybody else's
Speaker 6: fault it's the fault, and it's the school's fault, and yeah,
Speaker 6: it's he doesn't understand that it's his fault.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe him. Christopher and Logan should get together.
Speaker 1: They're kind of acting well.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a whole theory and I couldn't help
Speaker 3: but get sucked into it over the holidays that okay,
Speaker 3: I'll say it out because we can talk about it.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it after the movies. But there's a
Speaker 3: whole theory that Christopher that it's all parallel lives, right
Speaker 3: that Rory and I'm sorry Rory and Lorelei a living
Speaker 3: parallel lives and Christopher is Logan, yes as Luke and
Speaker 3: and Max. I think it's Max is Dean and it's
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and it's not so like what it
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be so correct, right, It's just it's loose, right,
Speaker 3: it's loose parallel lines.
Speaker 8: And I sort of was like, you know, did this
Speaker 8: scene bring it out for you?
Speaker 3: I just thought, oh, there's something to that theory that
Speaker 3: is all over the internet. And then what I did
Speaker 3: think was interesting that I will say and we can
Speaker 3: discuss it for the next year. The ending to the movies,
Speaker 3: which I won't say because Danielle's coming back and I
Speaker 3: don't want to ruin anything, but the ending to the
Speaker 3: movies is allegedly how Amy Sherman Palladino wanted to end
Speaker 3: the series, which would have made a lot more since
Speaker 3: ten years earlier or whatever it was, and then you
Speaker 3: really would have been like, oh, these two are living
Speaker 3: complete parallel lives.
Speaker 1: How many what's the theory on how many seasons she
Speaker 1: wanted the show to go before she ended it?
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Actually, that's a great question. Nobody knows,
Speaker 3: so I don't know. So which is I sort of
Speaker 3: agree like that would have been an amazing ending to
Speaker 3: the show. Ten years it still was a good ending
Speaker 3: to the movies, even though the movies were But we'll
Speaker 3: talk about that later.
Speaker 1: So okay, let's go back, so that that ending that
Speaker 1: she wanted was really a beginning of a new chapter.
Speaker 3: That's right, right, because Rory would have had that ending
Speaker 3: at the age of twenty something, right, as opposed to
Speaker 3: thirty something, which is sort of like, well, okay, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's just a different
Speaker 3: like it's not as big of a deal or it's
Speaker 3: just sort of a different deal too, right, Like okay, Well,
Speaker 3: then Mary logan and start your family with him, and
Speaker 3: that's you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think Warner Brothers was thinking about the end
Speaker 1: of the series. They were thinking about this thing going
Speaker 1: for fifteen seasons, right right. The money, h well, I
Speaker 1: mean sure. I mean they were operating in a deficit
Speaker 1: for so long and then they it became a hit
Speaker 1: after four years and they started making a little money.
Speaker 1: You know, they got to make some money. That's what
Speaker 1: they're doing it for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So all correct, and we can debate this for
Speaker 3: the next literally year.
Speaker 6: So we go to the bar, which.
Speaker 3: I did think was like Ory being drunk is funny.
Speaker 3: It was a little interest like barkeep, like no one
Speaker 3: says that. But then there's Nassim Pedrid from Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 3: Another person who went on to do many things. She
Speaker 3: was on brooklyn n I knew girl Snel all these things,
Speaker 3: so I thought, Okay, there we go again. That's interesting.
Speaker 3: Another famous person in this episode. And then there's drunk Doyle,
Speaker 3: Rory's drunk, Doyle's drunk.
Speaker 1: Such a scene, pretty funny. That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Love sucks pairs through me out, that's too many blondes
Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8: And like him wearing her coat at the end.
Speaker 1: Classic and then he.
Speaker 3: He runs out of money like the old thing, and
Speaker 3: then he's like yeah, with her, it's just so weird.
Speaker 4: Was and I love how she never brings it up
Speaker 4: like Rory never brings it up again.
Speaker 6: She probably didn't remember it.
Speaker 8: Having a good point.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like waiting, I don't know that
Speaker 1: image of him in the coat and her walking away
Speaker 1: saying what a day or what a horrible day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just day keeps getting worse.
Speaker 8: Also with her like.
Speaker 3: Her like laptop case, Oh my god, it's just so bad.
Speaker 3: So then you get Christopher and Laura Lai on the
Speaker 3: phone sort of having the conversation where he finally is
Speaker 3: like I'm sorry, like I was wrong. Thank God, because
Speaker 3: I didn't need to drag that out. And he's sort
Speaker 3: of like I've ruined her. I suck as a dad,
Speaker 3: you know. And he's kind of having his moment and
Speaker 3: Lauraai sort of talks him down and also interestingly sort
Speaker 3: of says like I'm here for you, like I'll help anytime.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like we're like, that's a lot to
Speaker 3: tell him.
Speaker 1: It's just getting too it's getting too tender here.
Speaker 3: And yes, I.
Speaker 6: Wrote that in my notes. She literally said we will
Speaker 6: fix this, not you can fix this, She said we
Speaker 6: will fix this.
Speaker 3: Right, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: I think she just views it like we have to
Speaker 1: be friends for R's sake and for our sanity, and
Speaker 1: you know, yes, plus yeah, it's a friendship thing. It's fine.
Speaker 3: I think she's drawn to him, right. We know that
Speaker 3: she's always drawn to him, and I think especially right now,
Speaker 3: so she's vulnerable with Luke. She's going right back to
Speaker 3: the guy that she's she likes.
Speaker 1: The connection just shows how fragile people really are.
Speaker 3: You she goes, Susanne, tell how you change.
Speaker 6: She's got like a hole where Luke is pulling away
Speaker 6: from her. And now here comes Christopher, who wants her
Speaker 6: help with his kid. So that's like the antidote to
Speaker 6: her situation with Luke. And so I think that she's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: you know my fiance doesn't want me. Well, here this
Speaker 6: guy wants to let me be part of his kid's life.
Speaker 6: So maybe, you know, I'll start leaning in that direction.
Speaker 6: So that's why I caught my attention when she said
Speaker 6: we will fix this, because she's thinking, you know, now
Speaker 6: I have an opportunity to kind of fill that gap
Speaker 6: that is left by Luke treating me the way that
Speaker 6: he is.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I hear what you're saying. I just
Speaker 1: I just think she's a good friend. I think she's
Speaker 1: being a good am.
Speaker 3: I being naive, yeah, because she's getting something from this.
Speaker 3: I think she's getting fulfillment, connection connection. I know I
Speaker 3: sound like a therapist, but it's like she wants connection
Speaker 3: in connection and she's getting it from him.
Speaker 1: So it can be it can be both things at once.
Speaker 1: She can just being a friend and she's also getting connected, right, sure.
Speaker 6: Yes, agree, I totally agree, right, okay, Yeah, And he's
Speaker 6: he's going along with it because you know, he always
Speaker 6: is trying to get with her, so he's like sure, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, we we just see his game and don't
Speaker 1: like it. But it doesn't mean her. She's just you know,
Speaker 1: she's there for everybody. She's a really good friend to everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, she's she's a good person underneath it all.
Speaker 1: She's a good person. Yeah, and she's there for him,
Speaker 1: and why would she abandon him the we I mean,
Speaker 1: she's not like him. You know, she's actually strong and
Speaker 1: she's a very capable person.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know he's getting sort of that mothering, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a romantic thing. I think it's a you'd be wrong.
Speaker 3: I love the Luke and you just sold so get that.
Speaker 3: It's all kind a messy. And then we go to
Speaker 3: the apartment and I won't belabor it, but that was
Speaker 3: a funny sort of scene in Paris and Rory makeup
Speaker 3: and hug and you're a good friend. And now she's
Speaker 3: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Do a fashion shout out. I really like that sweater
Speaker 1: on Paris, and that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good sweater. Sweater. I want to get her from her.
Speaker 3: It's a good scene and you get sort of the
Speaker 3: pin in it when she calls Loreli to say I
Speaker 3: have a new address.
Speaker 4: For you, and you're like, oh, like she just moved
Speaker 4: back in. I also like that she kind of she
Speaker 4: knew what Paris wanted to hear. And she's like, you
Speaker 4: came here.
Speaker 8: Because I broke up with her. Yeah, where He's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 4: She knew if she did, like started with I broke
Speaker 4: up with Logan, it's gonna be Liker.
Speaker 5: It's all about you.
Speaker 3: They're both all about themselves and then they found each other.
Speaker 1: She layered properly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good scene. It's all good. And and
Speaker 3: what I would say is great episode, like we came back.
Speaker 1: Strong, absolutely, Yeah, Vineyard Valentine at a lot of belly
Speaker 1: laughs in this one.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it isn't the.
Speaker 3: Best episode ever, no, but and and also it's you know,
Speaker 3: I've got I'm thinking about Lorli and Christopher and what's
Speaker 3: going on there, and I'm thinking about Lane and Zach
Speaker 3: and like, well they're engaged, and I'm thinking about Rory
Speaker 3: and Logan, and like it's deeper. There's sort of deep
Speaker 3: stuff in there that I said it enjoying thinking.
Speaker 4: About it's setting up to the end of the coming
Speaker 4: to the end of the season for sure. I feel
Speaker 4: like there was like the lull in the season with
Speaker 4: Vineyard Valentine. Now we're picking back up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's very weird to think about that. So
Speaker 3: next week is episode seventeen. So with that seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, what is it? Five six more episodes?
Speaker 3: I have to see how many is it are.
Speaker 1: In this Man? This is that's twenty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like we're almost not almost to the
Speaker 3: end of Amy and Dan working on this show.
Speaker 1: That's wild. It's so weird. Isn't that just weird?
Speaker 3: Which look, many shows can sustain the change of a
Speaker 3: show runner. The Walking Dead did it, Like that can happen,
Speaker 3: and I think West Wing, you know, Aaron Sorkin was
Speaker 3: there in the beginning and then he it was still good.
Speaker 3: It's never quite as good, but it can still be good.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I got it. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: interesting to watch season seven again.
Speaker 1: It really is. I'm a little a little nervous about it.
Speaker 4: They're writing is so specific. I mean, like I watched
Speaker 4: Marvelous Miss Maisel and you can even know it. Gilmour
Speaker 4: you just know that that's them. So it's very, very
Speaker 4: specific and hard to do.
Speaker 3: Not be afraid of Bunheads, I'm telling.
Speaker 8: You, as I love bad.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get into masl but I loved but great,
Speaker 3: but Bunheads was also awesome. I wish Bunheads would have
Speaker 3: gone on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and are like the Laurel and Hardy of TV.
Speaker 3: Someone said they're working on something new, Suzanne.
Speaker 6: Do you know are there was a casting call out
Speaker 6: like sometime last year for dancers. Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he is a ballerina thing. There's something.
Speaker 3: It does have something to do with ballet.
Speaker 1: It's called Let your Hair Down. I don't know, just speculating,
Speaker 1: who knows?
Speaker 8: Oh yes, actually, oh my god.
Speaker 4: There was an article three days ago Gilmore Rolls creators
Speaker 4: are working on a brand new show called Let Your
Speaker 4: Hair Down. Though I can't pronounce this.
Speaker 3: It's tall.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know how to say it eat twelve yeah.
Speaker 3: Because I would say twell, it's twel. I think it
Speaker 3: has something to do with ballet, right.
Speaker 1: Hold on, that's a French word, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Dancers and staff from two ballet companies from New York
Speaker 6: City and Paris.
Speaker 8: So it's a it's another go around at Bunheads.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of another stab at Bunheads. But we
Speaker 3: do need to watch Bunhead, Scott. I know you think
Speaker 3: we don't, but we do. We're gonna after we finish
Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls, before we do Gilmer.
Speaker 8: Where can we watch Bunheads?
Speaker 3: Amazon? I'm sure?
Speaker 1: Really, that's what we're doing after.
Speaker 3: We're going to do Bunheads because you will love it,
Speaker 3: and so many good people are in it, and then
Speaker 3: we will also good ideas. We've got plenty of time
Speaker 3: before I have to worry about this, but don't worry.
Speaker 3: We've got ideas.
Speaker 1: Apple TV.
Speaker 3: Apple TV has bun Heads.
Speaker 1: What are we gonna we're gonna call it? I am
Speaker 1: all in Bunheads?
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, really fine? Yeah, Okay, favorite lines and and
Speaker 3: give your.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the what's what? What's the uh measuring stick?
Speaker 1: And Tara, what do you give this episode?
Speaker 8: I'm going to go last because I'm not prepared.
Speaker 3: I'll give it nine.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go nine Saw two, nine Saw twos.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's eighteen saws. So you're giving it eighteen saws? Okay? Uh, Suzanne,
Speaker 1: I am going to give it seven behind the barn and.
Speaker 3: The side of that.
Speaker 1: I don't love it, you corn flakes.
Speaker 6: I know I don't like Christopher. Anytime Christopher comes.
Speaker 1: Around, that's legit, that's legit, that's a two.
Speaker 3: You can like him, you cannot like him.
Speaker 1: Amy, She's entitled to her deductions. It's just.
Speaker 6: My measuring stick is going to be Marachino cherries.
Speaker 1: But well done, well done, Tara.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do actually enjoyed it, eight point five
Speaker 4: engagement rings.
Speaker 1: On the nose. Uh, Suzanne, you might be swaying me
Speaker 1: to deduct some more, but I actually I'm going to
Speaker 1: go below nine. I think I'm going to do eight
Speaker 1: six three two four eight point six three two four
Speaker 1: h h crusts Kirk.
Speaker 3: I wanted to do that. That was a good one.
Speaker 3: You know. I know one used bacon as their measuring
Speaker 3: stick because we're out of it. We're out of bacon
Speaker 3: this week. The meat guy's going to have to be fired.
Speaker 3: For the casting director though.
Speaker 1: For sure, always, I mean always ahead of time every week.
Speaker 3: I way to know how to cast because all those
Speaker 3: people went on to do more get your tickets.
Speaker 8: Get your ticket?
Speaker 6: Did we do favorite lines?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I was gonna say everybody give you ready favorite lines?
Speaker 4: Fire West trying to find it the exact line. So
Speaker 4: Paris says, you could have hooked up with some hot,
Speaker 4: chicked Oyle says yes, and Paris says, in Ryan's buttons,
Speaker 4: who was it?
Speaker 8: Sheila e.
Speaker 1: Random Suzanne.
Speaker 6: My favorite line was in the beginning when Luke said,
Speaker 6: stopped sniffing my fiance.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's my line, Amy, I can pick a different one.
Speaker 3: I have a backup. I do like, but do you
Speaker 3: even know what you're saying? I mean, have you even
Speaker 3: thought about this? And then he pulls out the ring
Speaker 3: and she's like, oh my god, you have thought about this.
Speaker 1: What's Susanna, what's your backup? Because I'll use that one.
Speaker 6: My backup was when Rory was in the bar and
Speaker 6: this is this is more of a delivery than the
Speaker 6: line itself. But when she was arguing with the waitress
Speaker 6: about the cocktail napkins and she puts her hands around him,
Speaker 6: she goes, I'm so sick of people touching my stuff.
Speaker 1: There you go. There, that's my favorite one. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much Susan for providing that. Actually, it was my
Speaker 1: favorite line. That was one of my favorite scenes in
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Next episode, Season six, episode seventeen, I'm okay,
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