1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: What's up its way? Put angela. Ye, I'm here. This 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: is going to be quite interesting for all of us. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Bounty Tank is here and I'm sure you have all 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: seen his YouTube series which is also on tub right. Correct, yes, yes, 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: which is basically you going out and you're I actually 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: could we say this word? But you're a bounty hunter? 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Correct, yep. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: But in Cleveland, Ohio, you can't say bounty hunter. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: The term is technically banned, but everyone knows us as 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: bounty hunters. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Yes, why is bounty hunter? Why? Like, why would they 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: do that? It just doesn't sound. 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: Good or the they don't want to take accountability for 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: the work that goes into the actual job of bounty huntings. 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: I'm a bondsman first, so bounty hunt just comes with it, 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: but they don't want to acknowledge that basically to say 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: that liability wise. 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: And watching your show and also reading up on you, 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: I saw there's not a lot of you across the nation. 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: It's not a job that you know. There's what about 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: ten thousand. 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not a lot. It's a dying field. 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: I mean it is. It's dangerous and it's just people 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: are getting out of the business. I mean it's a 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: dying breed. I'm probably the last of the Mohicans, you know, 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: still left. 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you enjoy what you do. What I do 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: like is how you're very humanizing to people. You know, 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: it's not like a kicking the door, drag somebody out. 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: You'll actually try to do things in a way where 31 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: you can get people to come in. They you know, 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: skip bail. What is it called jump bill? 33 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: Jump bill? 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they jump bill and that means they put their deposit, 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: but then they didn't show up to court. And you're 36 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: not like threatening to them. It's more like I want 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: to help you. 38 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you gotta look at it like this. 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm a normal human being. So I really pride myself 40 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: on treating people with respect. And because everybody goes through stuff, 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: everybody makes, you know, mistakes in life, so you don't 42 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: tear people down when they're at the lowest moment. So 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: I really strive into helping people. It's a lot of 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: people I deal with just on drugs. I try to 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: get them rehab, try to offer people jobs. I mean, 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: it's all about being a touch people in the positive way. 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: It's not all about kicking indoors. Yes, it's entertaining. You 48 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: want to see me kick a dooring. But if you 49 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: don't do something positive with the you know, with the 50 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: platform that you have, then what's the point of doing it? 51 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: So it gives it gives me, it feels that void 52 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: for me helping people. 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about how you even got to this, right. 54 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: You went to Hampton University. Yes, you graduated from school 55 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: with a nursing degree. Yep, that comes in handy sometimes. 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes you got a nursery people, man, I mean, I 57 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: mean I went to school for nights, like you said, 58 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: I got my degree. I wanted to do something that 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: was still athletic. I didn't have to work in a 60 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: in a building all day. I wanted to be free. 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: So I initially looked up being a US Marshall. It 62 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: was a hiring freeze at the time. So Bonnie Hunt 63 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: came up next and I was like, what is this 64 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: is kind of kind of similar. So I actually started 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: doing it while I was in college doing clinicals. I 66 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: started a hunting and thank god, God blessed me with 67 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: finding my niche at an early age. So it's been 68 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: going since then. 69 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: From nursing to looking for how to be a US 70 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: musha to be in a bounty hunter. I can understand 71 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: why that term though, because like hunter sounds, it does 72 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: sound harsh like. 73 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, the phrase bounty hunter stems 74 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: back all the way to the ateen Hundre. You know 75 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people called slave catchers, and you know, 76 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: so it has some different meaning, you know, retrospect to hers. 77 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: So that's why the term is kind of up in 78 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: the air. 79 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So talk to me about the first 80 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: time you ever went out on a job and what 81 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: that experience was like for you. Because it is a 82 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: dangerous job to have. 83 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Can I be really detailed? Yes, okay, this one's not dangerous. 84 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: This is more a little bit comical. So I was 85 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: in Virginia. A bondsman gave me a chance to find somebody. 86 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: I went out looking for this guy. I went to hotel, 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: the hotel, the hotels. I knew he was staying at hotels. 88 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: He was on drugs. So I went to about fifteen 89 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: different hotels and finally the clerk said, yeah, he's in 90 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: the room. So and so, so I go to the room. 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: I bang on the door. I said, open up on 92 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: the kicker there, which is my famer line. Had to 93 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: bang for about five ten minutes. Finally he opened up 94 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: the door, and what I seen still haunts me today. 95 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: There was a laptop playing porn. There was a grapefruit, 96 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: and it was a Snickers and he was button naked, 97 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: just sitting there. So all his mind was like, get 98 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: on the floor, put your hands up. Then get up, 99 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: put your hands. 100 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: Up on the floor. Please. 101 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: So that was my first time actually finding somebody. I mean, 102 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: it was pretty wild. 103 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: So what was he doing with the grapefruit? 104 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: Me? I don't know and can't imagine this. I knew 105 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: what he was doing with the grapefruit Snickers off a 106 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: little different. 107 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I was thrown off. 108 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: It was it was it was heterosexual point, I will 109 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: give him that. 110 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: It was. 111 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: So I wasn't too worried about the Snickers at that. 112 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, And I've seen you say, you know on 113 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: different occasions that the most dangerous time you ever had 114 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: was one mission in Detroit. Yes, and they actually started 115 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: shooting at you, which is definitely risk. Was that the 116 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: only time that's happened. 117 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: Then I've got shot at Yeah, I've had guns put 118 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: on me, but that's the only time that I've ever 119 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: had someone shoot at me. And I was actually running 120 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: for my life. So yeah, shout out to Detroit because 121 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: it helped me get and helped me navigate through this job, 122 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because I was out there. Yeah, 123 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: I had enough flyers thinking I'm doing something because I 124 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: got a badge, not knowing that that means nothing in 125 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: the streets, and I got a quick lesson. 126 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then so how did you move differently 127 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: after that? Because that, like you said, that was a 128 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: lesson learned when you were younger. 129 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Now I know that the badge means nothing in the streets. 130 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to show people respect, You got 131 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: to move a certain way. You give respect, you give 132 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: you know, you give respect back. So that helped me navigate, 133 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 2: not to be power tripping, not to think just because 134 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: I got this on, I could say what I want 135 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: to do what I want. You can't. Somebody will take 136 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: you out no matter who you is tough. 137 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever was that the only time you felt 138 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: like your life was in danger? I know you said 139 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: you've had guns pulled on you, but I get. 140 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Death threats all the time. 141 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're trying to But the truth of the 142 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: matter is you are trying to help. I am and 143 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: people know when they jump int, they're aware, like there's 144 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: only so long you can avoid that, right. 145 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: And I'm out the police. I'm not out here solving crime, 146 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, solving crime. I'm o batman. You know, if 147 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: you commit a crime, I don't recommend it, but you 148 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: know I'm not going to go arrest you. And I 149 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: don't have that authority unless I'm doing a citizens arrest. 150 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: But that's not my responsibility. I bond people out of 151 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: jail that need help getting out, and if they don't 152 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: buy by that contract, I got to go find them 153 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: or we lose money. That is it? 154 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: Now, how do you get paid? Because sometimes these jobs 155 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: can take Like you said, you end up going to 156 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: fifteen different hotels. Sometimes things can take a couple of weeks. 157 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: You know, who knows how long it could take. So financially, 158 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: is this something that you would be like, Okay, you 159 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: can make some good money doing this. 160 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: So being your bondsman, you can freelance. But I'm a 161 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: being a bounding excuse me, I'm a bail bondsman. So 162 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: I make my money getting people out of jail. Right, 163 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: I have to go find these people. I don't get 164 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: paid to find them That's what people don't realize. I'm 165 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: actually bounding these individuals out and they skip court on 166 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: me and I have to get them or we lose money. 167 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: So I'm not in it. 168 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So lucratively, let's talk about some numbers. 169 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: So if somebody wanted to get into this business for 170 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the way that you do it, is it something that 171 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: you would say, this could be something that is lucrative. 172 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: I'll say this crime never stops. There, you go right 173 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: jumping bill jumping people, always on skip cord and commit crimes. 174 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Now, there was a point in time when I saw 175 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: that you were getting a Netflix deal. 176 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Well I I wasn't getting a Netflix deal, Okay, No, 177 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: it was more so we were pitching today. 178 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. And so actually the producers from Cops where 179 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: they on board. 180 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: To yeah, Morgan Morgan Langley. I'm still working with them 181 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: right now. Distribution, we're going to be up. My old 182 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: episode is going to be on Real Cool and Real. 183 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: We're working there right now. Yeah. 184 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean the YouTube channel is lit. 185 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Yea, thank you? 186 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: What made you decide to even start filming this and 187 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: putting it out there for people to see? 188 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, I mean everybody knows that, you know, the famous dog, 189 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I got a different flavor 190 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: to this. I need to show it's a different way 191 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: to do this. You know, I don't wear tactical gear. 192 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: I'll have one's red bottom shoes and chain. You know, 193 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: CARDI your glasses, I'm out there fresh, you know. I 194 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: wanted to show kids that you can still have that look. 195 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: The kids want that cool factor and still do something 196 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: positive with a badge. So I wanted to be that 197 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: figure where they look at somebody with a badge and 198 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: they're not intimidated. It's like, oh, you know, maybe I 199 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: can do this. So I wanted just to stir up, 200 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: start the carture up. 201 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: And legally you can't just go into somebody's home though, right, 202 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: how does that work? Because unless you have a search warrant, 203 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: can you Because we always see the kicking the door, 204 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: do this, do X, Y and Z, But how does 205 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: that work legally? 206 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: So when you see me kicking in someone's door, they 207 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: have signed a contract given me the legal right to 208 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: go in. Okay, they have signed their rights away, the 209 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: co signer and the defendant. Now there's there's certain circumcasments 210 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: where there's a party involved that didn't sign the contract. 211 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: If we know the defendant is in there, we lay 212 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: eyes on them, we can legally go in there. So 213 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: I'm not just kicking random people doors and that's illegal. 214 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember seeing different instances where you know, 215 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I saw one woman had a case because they kicked 216 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: in her door and then they sat there and they 217 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't leave, Okay, okay, yeah, and then they turned into 218 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: a whole situation because they were like, you're not even 219 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: supposed to be in this person's home. But when they 220 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: signed to get that bail money, they're also signing for 221 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: you to be able to come correct and apprehend them 222 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: if they don't show up signing their rights. 223 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Way, so you better be careful. Who you signed a 224 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: bomb for women out just sign a bond for their 225 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: boyfriends in the streets. You better be careful because they 226 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: you get to mess with the church's blud were coming 227 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: for you. 228 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: And that's a scary thing because think about people who 229 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: do that right to help someone else that's in a bind. 230 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: And that's some people put their house up, yes, and 231 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: put up you know, all whatever for a collateral just 232 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: in case something happens and something they could not show 233 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: up to court, right, and then they can't lose it. 234 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, if a person misses their 235 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: court date, is that just it or do they have 236 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to still like come back. 237 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: And if they miss court, the court, the court is 238 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: going to notify me. You gonna say, hey, thank this 239 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: person miss court. You got forty five days to find them, 240 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: so we get a time frame to find them. So 241 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: they still have an opportunity to do the right thing 242 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: or turn themselves in. But most of them don't. 243 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, so oh really, the majority of them don't. 244 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: The majority once they missed. The people that miss court, 245 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: the majority of them, they're just on the run. But 246 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: you do have a small percentage that maybe the court 247 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: messed up, or something maybe tragic happened in their life, 248 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: maybe someone died. And if they call me and talk 249 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: to me, I'm really nice. I'll give them. I'll say, hey, 250 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: all right, you got a week to get your fears intact. 251 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: You know, after the week, I'm coming. So most people don't. 252 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember one episode I saw this guy was 253 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: at home on meth house was a mess everyone. Yeah, 254 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, And I was thinking to myself, this 255 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: is also like this plus hoarders, you know, mixed in together. 256 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: But sometimes people take to your personality and they actually 257 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: are like, okay, you all joking and laughing while they're 258 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: going to turn themselves in. 259 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm a de escalator, you know, I'm a human, 260 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: So I like to Like I said, it's people, they're 261 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: going to jail. You don't need to be mean. You know, 262 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you crack jokes. You know. I 263 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: didn't let people finish their finished bottles of liquor. I 264 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: didn't let people finish they blunts before they go to jail, 265 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 266 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: So they just give me a moment. 267 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: You know, we will kick it in a lot of 268 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: times they get out of jail, you know, cool with them. 269 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: You know I might help them out with a job. 270 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: I might kick it with some of them. So I'm 271 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: just a normal guy. 272 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: What would you advise somebody who's listening right now, who's like, damn, 273 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm on the run, and you know I didn't take 274 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity. I miss bell and I didn't go to 275 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: court and now I'm on the run. What is the 276 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: best way for them to handle a situation like this? 277 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: The best way. For one, you need to realize think 278 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: about this, who signed for you? What's going to happen 279 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: to the person to sign for If your mom signed 280 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: for you, she's gonna lose money, she could lose her job, 281 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: she can lose her house. Think about the people that 282 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: are being affected by your decision. Then after you do that, 283 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: turn your ass in. 284 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: I definitely binded somebody out of jail one time in 285 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: my life, and no, they went to court and I 286 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: but I also kept thinking until that court date happened, like, 287 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: dear God, please don't let I think it was like 288 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: a thirty thousand dollars too that I would have lost. 289 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Was it an ex? 290 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: No, it was just a friend of mine and he 291 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: really really like this is a long time ago needed 292 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: the help. So you know, you just put down to 293 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: ten percent. But I was like, dear God, if he 294 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: misses this, like, I don't even know what I'm. 295 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: Were you scared when you did the application? 296 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: I was a little I was scared. I'm not gonna lie. 297 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: I was so nervous. 298 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Was you checking all his court days making sure he 299 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: was getting there? 300 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Because I knew what Dandy had to do, you know, 301 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: And I really did not like so after I was 302 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: checking and like, make sure you go to court because 303 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: it definitely was something that'll make you nervous. That's not 304 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: a small amount of money too, it's not. And so 305 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: you're right. You do have to think about who signed 306 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: for you, because some people do that with every intention 307 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: of knowing they're not going to show up right right. 308 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: I see people screw their moms over Grandma's crazy. You know, 309 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: it couldn't be me. I wouldn't do it. I'm not 310 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: signing for nobody. 311 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: Now, you're also a rapper. Yes, let's talk about that 312 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: for a second, because and clearly you like the strip club. 313 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: You know I didn't got out of that now. I 314 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: didn't got it. Yeah, that's old news. Yeah, I switched 315 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: it up. 316 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: Now. I bet you could get a lot of work 317 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: done in there. 318 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: I do get a lot of work done there. I 319 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: didn't win in strip clubs and snatch money off g 320 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 2: strings and females owe me money. 321 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you did not. 322 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: I swear to God that you better ask about me. 323 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: That is a wild thing to do. So talk to 324 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: me about this music career that you have to. You 325 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,119 Speaker 1: have a very clear, laid back type of style. 326 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, at first, I was scared to even 327 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: get into music because of what I do. I we're 328 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: a badge. I have a bulletproofess. People look at me 329 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: in the streets as the police. So with our culture, 330 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be really hard for them except 331 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: me doing music. But I don't care. I take your 332 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: door into it. I've been doing well at it. I 333 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: talk about my life or what I'm doing, and I'm 334 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: not a street I'm not in the streets. Let me 335 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 2: say this. I'm not a street guy, but I am 336 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: in the streets right. So some of my music, you know, 337 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: street people can relate to because I'm talking talking about 338 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: kicking indoors. They might just be doing it for the 339 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: wrong reasons. But I'm just talking about my life and 340 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: having fun with it. You know, that's it. I love it. 341 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: I love music. 342 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Do you ever feel 343 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: bad like when in situations where you meet somebody and 344 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: you have to bring them in and you're like, oh man, 345 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: this is a tragic situation, Like I kind of have 346 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: a lot of sympathy for this person. 347 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: All the time. This job plays with your heart strings 348 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: a lot. I meet so many young people on drugs, 349 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: You'll meet someone that's twenty years old and when you 350 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: see them, they look sixty because the drugs are eating 351 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: them away. So that's why I have so much of 352 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: a kind heart, where I try to direct people towards, 353 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, getting rehab and getting some type of help. Man, 354 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: because it bothers you see someone your age right messed 355 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: up on drugs and you see how they used to 356 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: look and how they were performing in life. Unless you 357 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: don't have a soul, it bothers you. It does. 358 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: What do you do for yourself to make sure that 359 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: you can separate, because that's not an easy job to 360 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: separate your real life and your emotions from work. 361 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good question. I take trips, I go 362 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: to the gym. I try to find as many positive 363 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: coping mechanisms as I can, because, yeah, with this job, 364 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: you're just constantly around negativity all the time, and it 365 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: will it'll whirl on you too. So I like to 366 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: take trips. I like nature. I like to be around water. 367 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: I'll kick it with my daughter, you know what I mean. 368 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: Take the dogs on the wall, just simple stuff to 369 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: give this therapeutic for. 370 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Me, you know. 371 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: And I try to stay in church, you know, as 372 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: much as I can. 373 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, because whenever you come to the door, it's never 374 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: a good feeling for the person on the other side. 375 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: Some people be happy when I come to the door 376 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: now mostly because they know I got to show easier. 377 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: But TV people dropping shout outs and everything. Yeah, it's cool. 378 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: And so do you think it's a job that you 379 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: feel like you can do? Like I know obviously like 380 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: you've gotten a lot of attention for it. You have 381 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: damn near a million subscribers you know on YouTube and 382 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: a show that's going to be in the works that 383 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be on a major 384 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: streaming service or network at some point for you. Do 385 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: you see do you have a plan for when you're out? 386 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Is because it is something that is a really heavy 387 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: job to have every day. 388 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to be fifty five years old 389 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: kicking indoors with bad needs. So my plan is to 390 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: just coach up someone like myself to learn the game 391 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: and they can do take over the hunting part. I'll 392 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: always be a bondsman because the bondsman like it's just right, 393 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: get somebody out of jail, you know what I mean. 394 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: So I'll never get out the business but I don't 395 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: necessarily want to be out kicking doors, and so I'm 396 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: going to just find people that are passionate about this, 397 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: have good backgrounds, you really want to learn this, and 398 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: just coach up a team where I don't have to 399 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: do that no more. 400 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Do a lot of people reach out to you now for. 401 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: That, I get a ton of people to reach out. 402 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: But everybody he just wants to kick it. 403 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Dorian or carry a gun, I definitely don't want to. 404 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: You gotta have I don't want to kick it nobody. 405 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: You can't be if you were picked on as a kid, 406 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't want you. If you just want to carry 407 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: a gun, I don't want you. I need personal people 408 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: who can learn and understand. These are regular people. 409 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, well listen, I appreciate you for coming through. 410 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be looking forward to everything that you 411 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: have going on. I definitely recommend everybody pay attention to 412 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: Bounty Take go to his page if you just google 413 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: it on YouTube. If you haven't seen it, I'm sure 414 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: you've seen some clips at least somewhere, but you can 415 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: flash back and you said you can see all the 416 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: episodes right on Roku. 417 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Look season one through five you can check out on 418 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: toob Season six is now streaming right now on YouTube 419 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: and it's going crazy. 420 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I let you. You have all these different 421 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: streams of income, you know. 422 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: You gotta hustle. You gotta hustle. Yeah, I got it. 423 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm a single parent. I gotta hustle when. 424 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: It comes to you being you know, just being a 425 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: bondsman in itself? What person is a people will actually 426 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: skip out on Bill. 427 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say out of one hundred percent, I'm gonna 428 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: say about thirty percent. Most people do gotta go to court, 429 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: you know, especially if they know they're going through me, right, 430 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: But you got the vast majority that thirty percent, they 431 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: just they gonna they're gonna bust a move. Like I'm 432 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: gonna tell you this around holidays in summertime. That's when 433 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: people take off. No one wants to go to jail 434 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: in the summer, and no one wants to go to 435 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: jail around holidays. 436 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll turn myself enough Christmas. 437 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: That's what they do, all right. 438 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: Well, Frank Frazer, thank you so much for joining us today. 439 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: It's way up, way up,