1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Obviously we know pads haven't come on yet. But when 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: you're going against when you're going against Andrew Thomas, what 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: is that good on? 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Good like? 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Because we saw you put a pretty nasty move on 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: him the other day and that never happens to him. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: That never happens, never happens to him. Uh nah, It's 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: been a constant battle between me and him. You know, 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: I embraced the opportunity so ever since he got back, 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: because you know, he wasn't practicing in the beginning of OTAs. 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: But ever since he got back, you know, I've been 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: on his side. We're definitely gonna get each other better. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Today he kind of got me a little pissed off. 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: He airs me out today, So yeah, tomorrow we got 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: to battle. Then we gotta get that back for sure. 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: No side preference, I ask you that. Nah, I don't. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: I can restue the Side've been rushing both sides for 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: since I've been in the league, since I've been in 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: college something playing ball actually, But now I don't have 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: a side preference. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: Which I mean, it's obviously early in training camp, but 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: you've had the spring and now a little bit here 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: in the summer. What's your impression of how they're planning unutilized. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: Again, I haven't been dropping a lot, so that's Uh, 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: that looked good to me. As long as we can 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: keep those numbers to a minimum, I'm fine. I'd rather 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: be going forward. 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Obviously, Bowen's defense is a lot based on the front foor. 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: It's not a lot of blitzing. 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: When you guys know that it's all gonna be on 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: your shoulders like that, how do you how do you 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: guys take that challenge? 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: I take it seriously. And with that being said, today 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: we had too many quarterback scrambles. Uh. I don't think 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: we kept it tight enough pocket today. You know, it's 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: still early. We're still learning how to rest with each other. 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: So it's gonna take time. But day by day we're 38 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: gonna get better. But I do take it seriously and 39 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: that that puts a lot on our group. So and 40 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: I think we got the guys to do it. 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: You think of when we talked here in the spring, 42 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned like you're early growing connection with Kavon. 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: How's that developed and what have you seen them? It's 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: still been going good. We had a competition yesterday in 45 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: that last call it peer, whoever got the first Sack 46 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: had like twenty five points up or something like that, 47 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: and he got it, So I'll give it to him 48 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: for now. But yeah, we still have a friendly competition. 49 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna help us get better. 50 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, here is what. 51 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Your impress. 52 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Has been have been here because he's a guy who's 53 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: been a pretty effective pass rusher when he stays healthy. 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: But it's got some trouble staying healthy. 55 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: He's a great pass rusher. He's very natural. He has 56 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: natural ability. It comes very, very natural to him. I 57 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: think he's very gifted, you know, just his build alone. 58 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: He has extremely long, gong to natural leverage. Uh so 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: that makes him, you know, a premium pass rusher as 60 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: far as his bill. But he's been doing great so far. 61 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: I expect big things from him this year. 62 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: I know you lived it, but have you seen the 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: hard knocks about how the kind of trade went down? 64 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: And then oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what'd you think? I 65 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: think it's an interesting side of the story, you know, 66 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: to see the I guess the background of how things 67 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: actually go, the operations of it. Other than that, I mean, 68 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: I went through so I know the ins and outs, 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: but just to see that slide was interesting. 70 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: Were you surprised that what the end price was for 71 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: you not I'm not I'm not talking contract wise, I'm 72 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: talking draft pick wise, considering you know, you heard that 73 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: conversation with them and maybe dance like. 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, I gotta give us two first rounders. 75 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: You know that ended up being what it ended up being. 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: A lot surprised. Now, I ain't looked too too deep 77 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: into it as far as like the picks anything like 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: that conversation. It was just I had to get get 79 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: ready for the transition, so I was more focused on 80 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: that than than what they gave up that. 81 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Uh, that was up till three am. I guess the 82 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: night before the trade happened working out a contract with 83 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: your agent, Like when did you find out that? Did 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: you know before the trade that the contract was already 85 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: in place and you were just waiting to hear fun. 86 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Out where y'all found out? I hope I found out 87 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: where y'all found out the same time it came across y'all, 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: ticket came across mind. What was important to you in that, 89 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: like obviously the contract, Like what was what was your prostability? Uh? Security, 90 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: you know, uh being able to call you know what 91 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying place a home for a while. You know, 92 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: going through those contracts, talks were tough, you know, not 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: knowing where what was gonna happen with the futures, what 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: the future had, uh help what held before me or whatever. 95 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: But you know that was the main thing. Is security, instability, 96 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, So yeah, that was it. 97 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: You already had a familiarity with Jacks. But what's it 98 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: like on these practices to be out there with him? 99 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: It's a process we have to uh, you know, we 100 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: have to really prioritize that process. You know, it's gonna 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: be day by day. I learned how you rest because 102 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: you know, I never rested with him. So learning his 103 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: moves and what his go tos are, what he's thinking, 104 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: is gonna be a main part in our success. Uh 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: this season? Has he ever amaze you? Does he? Yeah? 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: Just look at him. A guy that big should be 107 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: moving that fast, you know, and when he takes growing 108 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: in and talking to to decide, Yeah, it's amazing. 109 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: You've seen that a bunch of times already on the field, 110 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: and I'm talking about training camps. 111 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, without pass Yeah it's crazy. We'll take two more. 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: How is that an action between DL and all group 113 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: has kind of been developing again, the connection between the 114 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: outside linebackers and the defensive line. You guys were working 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: together in the spring. How has that been developing. 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: It's coming along. It just has to keep getting better. 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Like I said, we're still a new group of guys, 118 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: you know, so we have to learn how. We have 119 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: to learn each other, learn what each other is thinking. 120 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: So it just takes time. But so far as as well, 121 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: it's going. 122 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 4: Good kicking for you kind of that that next. 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: Step as far as preparation goes or you still kind 124 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: of nah, definitely nah, definitely the first first first practice 125 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: will pass. Yeah, that's definitely the next step. And so 126 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: that's a big step for this whole team. See where 127 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: everybody's at, uh, physically, on their mentality. It's gonna tell 128 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: a lot about our defense how we come out and 129 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: go against our offense. So it's big, definitely a big step, 130 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put a lot of ephasis on that 131 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: to our defense.