WEBVTT - The SGT. Kendall Cobb Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Gill. You know, boys, it's back and reoaded all in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the

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<v Speaker 1>truth escape building, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North

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<v Speaker 1>South East coat is the g b my keeping your

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<v Speaker 1>head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>drips head by. And then the system is so corrupt

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<v Speaker 1>they throw the rock out of their hands and then

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<v Speaker 1>blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code

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<v Speaker 1>and me and danced for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie

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<v Speaker 1>d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of information

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<v Speaker 1>and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful world. In the studio, Sergeant Kendall Cop, Farmer, Sergeant

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall Cop, how you doing, good man? Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same Do you feel the same way that like

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<v Speaker 1>ex ball players feel when you've done something for so

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<v Speaker 1>long and you gotta retire. You gotta face that retirement

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<v Speaker 1>and now it time question. That's a good question. M No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't cry. Why So I've always known the day

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<v Speaker 1>was coming. When I came on ninety two, I said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving. I'm doing thirty years. This year was thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've always had in my mind and I never

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<v Speaker 1>like grew up on the police. So this is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I did it. Thank God for it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>HPDs allowed me to feed my family and do my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm ready to turn the page and moving. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't. My identity wasn't all no, because

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<v Speaker 1>my identity wasn't all HPD. My my identity is like

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<v Speaker 1>helping people, which I'm still gonna continue to do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm doing a different capacity. Okay, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>served this purpose. I'm cool with it. Was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>move on. That's a young man's game. So back back

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<v Speaker 1>back in the early nineties, man, um, when when you

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<v Speaker 1>just got with the force, did you notice that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of um, a lot of profiling going on, like

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<v Speaker 1>pulling kids out, like you you you witnessed this what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean back in the nineties, I'm talking about it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Look, so here's the name. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my neighborhood and I'm in a red Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh five twelve, I'm doing the speed limit. I'm chilling,

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<v Speaker 1>bubble gum, Come on, all right. I got my shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>over in my you know how we drove with the

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun on the passage side. So he pulled me over.

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<v Speaker 1>He made me get out of the car. He uh

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me because I searched the car. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>him no. He called the dogs. He you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was really really went to the extreme, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is my neighborhood. And then some black cops that

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<v Speaker 1>I actually know was pulling up, and it was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he could he ain't. He didn't want to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing something wrong. I had drugs on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could, I could. I can honestly say that

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a target of profiling back in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties for a long time. But I think that now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm older, excuse me, they don't really pull me

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<v Speaker 1>over and target Well that's that's that's because you're older.

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<v Speaker 1>They see what you see, they know who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're hitting that when they get behind you, they

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<v Speaker 1>hit it. Uh. He's seventy five years old. Guy's harmless

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<v Speaker 1>along here got along, there's something that the bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>is listening. So back what you're saying, I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>Delaway State the other days told y'all stuff still get profiled.

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<v Speaker 1>And again then then the Delaway State state thing in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>like they knew who it was and once they got

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<v Speaker 1>on so who it was, they were very extra with

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<v Speaker 1>how they went about it. But nonetheless, back in the nineties, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>profile was going on. Profile still goes on to a degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Um is not so much because we have to put

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<v Speaker 1>our we have we have to put racial profiling card

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<v Speaker 1>in every traffic stop. That again, you have to put

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<v Speaker 1>a racial one filing card. Yes, there's a mind of cards.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically and again I just let the go last month.

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<v Speaker 1>So up until the until months ago when I did

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<v Speaker 1>my stops, I don't do stop very often. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be do something crazy for me to stop you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still stop you. And even I as a supervisor,

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<v Speaker 1>had to put in a racial profile and car. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>it's a demographic cards saying you know who did you stop?

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<v Speaker 1>We're you stopping? You know? What's the demograph of the person? Race? Uh? Sex?

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<v Speaker 1>And then um, did you know this prior to all

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<v Speaker 1>the different aspects, and that helps track people who were

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<v Speaker 1>racially profiling people. So so, but let me just again.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a thousand stories I've been stopped throughout my career,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it was racially profile. I mean, I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't make this if I wanted to come. So

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<v Speaker 1>you want your quick story. The story we'll be hearing six,

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<v Speaker 1>So listen. So I just worked you not division, and

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<v Speaker 1>we work night shift. So there's a subway like it

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<v Speaker 1>Holcom in the medical center. So it was my do

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<v Speaker 1>the food run. You know I'm going I'm getting food everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go to subway in uniform. Okay, No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing close by man a police raid jacket and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in an unmarked car. So so somebody blowing my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I come out of subway with the food. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to make a you term on Holking whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was to get back to the station. I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all my cow. Okay. So I'm sitting at I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stopped at a traffic light waiting for the light to turns.

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<v Speaker 1>So I made to you, uh, constable is going the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite way. So he passed me. I looked at him.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks at me. Precincts seven. I don't know precining

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It's right there in the area, so made

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<v Speaker 1>precinct one. I don't know. I can't appreciate time, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a constable. So so he looks at me, and

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<v Speaker 1>he turns around and gets behind me. Now he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to ops way. He makes the worlds are the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>and gets behind me. I just away from my light

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<v Speaker 1>to term, so my light turns. I make to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes you and pops me. As soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>possed me, I put and I shouldn't have done this,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is like ninety seven night seven. I merely

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<v Speaker 1>went to the first driveway and I jumped out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. And I shouldn't have done that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I was so incessed because I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even moving. You can't say I did okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't doing ship. Why are you? I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>got behind me, and I don't think. I'm like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>turning on. PopEd me, so I make that you. He

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<v Speaker 1>popped me. I jumped out the car. I made my

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<v Speaker 1>rade Jack I like what And I went up told

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<v Speaker 1>me me Lee and he's like, oh, no, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went some lie about it was some uh

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<v Speaker 1>cars broken into or whatever. He he reached out of

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<v Speaker 1>his ass and made that excuse. But the bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>is once he saw me jump out in my rage jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, hey, motherfucker, if you look at the plate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're so hell been on who you saw driving.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take the time look at the plate, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Texas exempt plate. That should be a clue Texas

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<v Speaker 1>exempt plate, law enforcement or some governmental agency that alone

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<v Speaker 1>should that exempt plate should to spark you that hey

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't you know, brother USA or whatever. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>I am brother, you are saying what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stationary at a stoplight, waiting for like the terms,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could say I did something. When he got

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<v Speaker 1>behind me, I still had moved because the lighthead yet

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<v Speaker 1>to turn. So that's that's one quick story. So again

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<v Speaker 1>he went to been some breaking man, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just walked off, man, get out of here. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted I could have checkn it further and

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<v Speaker 1>like no supervisor and stuff. But at that time I

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<v Speaker 1>was an officer so I let it ride. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to your humble beginnings. Man, Like I want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what inspired you to want to be a police officer?

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<v Speaker 1>But even before you get there, I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically who who put it into you? That's say

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to have a different lifestyle, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And where did you come from? Where? Where were you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where were you raised? Okay, so I'm from outside Detroit, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>met Point Westland, Michigan, outside Insure Westland, just outside Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you fly into Detroit, fly, when you fly

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<v Speaker 1>into Detroit Metro at Rhymeless, I'm right next to Rundless.

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<v Speaker 1>You like my three months from the airport. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up outside there, went to Catholic schools, so

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<v Speaker 1>I show in that regard. So what made me want

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<v Speaker 1>a police? That's funny again, I didn't grow up one

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<v Speaker 1>of the police. I went to Tuskegee for veterinary medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went I went there with the mindset of

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<v Speaker 1>chasing skirts instead of chasing my grades. So I get

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<v Speaker 1>Pisspoort grades. So therefore you don't get accepted VET school

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<v Speaker 1>if you had Pittsport grades. So therefore I didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it invest school, so graduate, I got her first RTC

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<v Speaker 1>because has Air Force RTC program went through that deal.

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<v Speaker 1>UM was in Vanderberg Air Force Base in California. Did

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<v Speaker 1>not do well, very academically challenging, so washed out of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I came here. My brother lived here. He

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<v Speaker 1>still does, but he lived in periand that time, so

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<v Speaker 1>I came here and I was doing UM credit card

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<v Speaker 1>collections at that time. So at that time and I

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a john. Got this degree, can't really use it,

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<v Speaker 1>so teach for America. I don't. If you have from

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<v Speaker 1>your Teach for America degree animal science animal husbandry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so UM Chief of America. If y'all heard of it

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<v Speaker 1>before I started nine to check out of Princeton when

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<v Speaker 1>they cop Kopp started his program where he got these

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<v Speaker 1>corporations and fund all these people who were reaching college

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<v Speaker 1>grads who didn't teach but wanted to teach, didn't didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have degrees in teaching, but wanted to teach. So it

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<v Speaker 1>took five hundred of us. We went to USC's campus,

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<v Speaker 1>trained and went every four different locations around the country

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, Rural North Carolina, Nowork rural. UM Louisiana and

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<v Speaker 1>then l A and New York, and I chose New York.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm in New York City doing my thing, teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>loving what I'm doing. Hated New York, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. Hated New York too fast to route to dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Brooklyn. I was living in Brooklyn, so

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Park Slope. By taught best I, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would take a little my little train and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go to do with our best I And I love

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. I love I love teaching by hated New

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<v Speaker 1>York is too fast for me and too I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it no nature anyway. So while teaching right Nick

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<v Speaker 1>King Captain, Yeah, so Rodney King cappen, I said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is messed up. I watched the tape

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else said, and I was like the enforcer

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<v Speaker 1>for my school. In other words, you know, very few

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<v Speaker 1>Maale teachers and middle schools. I was at junior high

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<v Speaker 1>school to forty eight, which is you know, right off

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<v Speaker 1>the hard the bed stye. So they come to me

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<v Speaker 1>and hey, Mr cop, you need to you know, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to whom ever. I had young men stay afterwards, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them, try and mentor give him some guidance because

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<v Speaker 1>you know they've running around foot loose, fantasy free, something like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>let me go ahead and try and get us some insight.

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<v Speaker 1>So from that kind of put me in that mode

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<v Speaker 1>of hey, let me try and help. But when Rodney

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<v Speaker 1>King happened, I said, Man, wait a minute, police department,

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<v Speaker 1>black community. I'm black, and I'm black black, So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get in here and make a difference. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that planned to see. So I taught one

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<v Speaker 1>is a two year commitment. I taught one year in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Did not supposed to come down here for

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<v Speaker 1>the second year. And the lady who down here in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I promised me all this stuff. When I

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<v Speaker 1>got down here, She's like, I didn't never told you that.

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<v Speaker 1>So she sold me out. So I had to find

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<v Speaker 1>a job on my own. And that's why I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Fleming. I went and talked to Chester Smith. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the presion PRINCIPI Fleming. No I went back, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking you know my niece. Okay, So I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like ninety one. So I'm teaching Fleming. Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Smith gave me an opportunity and at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>I apply for Harris County and I apply for HBD,

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing the difference. I didn't know. I'm not from here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't know. First of all, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>the consult was because when I have counselors in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, so, whoever called me first is who

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<v Speaker 1>I was going with. An HPD called me first. So

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<v Speaker 1>while I was teaching, I started my little background check

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<v Speaker 1>and then I didn't even finish that year out. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked like three quarters of the year and that class started.

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<v Speaker 1>So I told Mrs Smith, I said, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity, but department is calling. I got the six

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<v Speaker 1>month academy. I gotta go. And he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for you know, doing what you did in

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Friends, I was again trying to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>young men. You know, I talked to young ladies too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really focus on young man. No, you only

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<v Speaker 1>cause no, hey, you know, no, people look at you

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<v Speaker 1>crazy when you talking, so you gotta keep your distance

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard. By death. Only did my thing with

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<v Speaker 1>young men, trying to like just direct them and put

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<v Speaker 1>them in the right path. And again I'm not the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people, I'm an answer, I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the final say. I'm not the word, the black word

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<v Speaker 1>of life for black police. I'm just telling you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>giving you what I learned in fifty five years on

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<v Speaker 1>this earth. And I like to think I got a

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<v Speaker 1>level even kill approach to it. Who sparked that learning, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>hunger in you from the beginning? Your mother, your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty year teacher, year teacher, and she talked, and what

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the lessons that coming up like that

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<v Speaker 1>you learned from your mom that you said, man, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're still taking with you, you carried to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>You Accountability is big, Like I'm really big on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>only what you do good, bad, happier said you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and being in the gift back you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the class is saying you blessed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing. That's my stuff for real. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>like some little thing to put on a bumper circle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my stuff for real. I'm like, I'm like, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I got, you know, and I came from the classic

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<v Speaker 1>two parent house or whatever. I'm like, I got that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I can help recreate that, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out cool for me. So let me, let

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<v Speaker 1>me jump the ship real quick, so don't jumping straight

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<v Speaker 1>to my first year of HPD. So I'm in. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a Park fourtune district, so yeah, solo. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie in South Park solo so low. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't God babies and foods right, So that's that goes

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<v Speaker 1>back that rap story. So anyway, so, um, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>my thing, and um, of course my number one place,

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<v Speaker 1>my number one call for service was leving not left him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know that according's departments, so get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>calls there. So what had what made a big impression

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<v Speaker 1>on my mind early on and still affects me now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in terms of where I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>with stuff. So the number one call I would get

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<v Speaker 1>is mom being beaten by boyfriend, never husband, no, no, never,

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<v Speaker 1>this always boyfriend, followed shortly by my mom's boyfriend touching kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But the main thing that really clearly number two that

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<v Speaker 1>like actually one and one A. But what's the first thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Mom catching catching hands. That's the number one call I

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<v Speaker 1>would ever get. And the second call was mom's boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>doing something with kids and something like sexual. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like like that's the second most call you that I

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<v Speaker 1>came across, and I understand this. I'm fortune district and

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<v Speaker 1>a night shift, so I I didn't put the my

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<v Speaker 1>numbers for like you know, the crime reports for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the year per whatever category. Crimes have categories, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, I'm I'm fourteen district, night shift, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's my calls. Assault domestic abuse by birdfornd on mom,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by boyfriend doing something sexual to the boys and

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<v Speaker 1>the girls. So let's not get it twisted to the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop boyfriend, boys, boyfriend not husband, never husband, which never,

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<v Speaker 1>that's never husband and to me that anyway, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a whole another solicity on that about the whole Marriors

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<v Speaker 1>thing and us in marriage. But nonetheless, so that's that's so,

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<v Speaker 1>this was my thing, and I'll wrap upon this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting the calls and I will sit there and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, so I get there three o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>mom beating up something, you know, getting information, going to

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment. Kids are up watching TV three clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning or not or knocked out. But here's the point,

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<v Speaker 1>either up, day up now because all the drama fully clothed,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's will kill me. You fully clothed, Yet in

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<v Speaker 1>about three to four hours, that teacher is expecting you,

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<v Speaker 1>the kid to show up fed, rested, clean and ready

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<v Speaker 1>to learn. But you have none of those things because

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<v Speaker 1>mom is trying to get the wood and she forsakes

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<v Speaker 1>all her responsibilities for this new dude. And again, and

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<v Speaker 1>the new dude just go on. The the beat goes

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<v Speaker 1>on in terms of the next dude. Who wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be the next sire of the next child. No, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do this, nobody. And that's what again, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that was my number one thing. And I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what That's what really pricked my heart. I'm like, these

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't even have a chance. So so somebody blown

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<v Speaker 1>me up. So listen. So when no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you could um so check this out. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta one day with um with my wife. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about two years ago, and we're in um fish

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<v Speaker 1>local I don't know where, some little independent fish story

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<v Speaker 1>fish shop, and there's a check there. She was decent

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<v Speaker 1>looking and she had like a maybe five kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>all that look difference. I'm assuming that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the story of All I know is she was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had all these kids, and she looked through

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<v Speaker 1>to me, she looked like she was off, like she

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<v Speaker 1>was mentally off, but she was still looked physically she

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<v Speaker 1>was esthetically appealing. Like I mean, I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>given normal circumstances, it would be somebody you shot at.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you don't see what the whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, she pregnant, you got these kids? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I didn't talk to her and go in detail,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just telling you. I told him, I said, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. So he got this kid. You see

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<v Speaker 1>she throw and I could tell she throw just by

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<v Speaker 1>her interaction with kids. So what do is willing? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what she looks like. I don't care. Look, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we all love it. Yeah, it's it's great. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>But there has to be at some point in time

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be just about getting this stuff. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be about responsibility and you get this stuff, Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you creating a life you can get the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and get on. Why are you making a life that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even anyway? So I told my wife, what

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<v Speaker 1>what person would even take time to impregnant her again?

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<v Speaker 1>And you see you throw, you see she throw. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm going down. But my point is this.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is that, y'all, I have a soapbox for this,

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous soapbox for this. What does that mean? This

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<v Speaker 1>is the hill I die on. I'm about Black people

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<v Speaker 1>in America need to marry. And why not? Okay, okay, y'all, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because because I think it's very important that we understand

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<v Speaker 1>what goes into that. It's not just a piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>not just a It's a bonding thing. It is it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not it's a bonding thing an institutional thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's both. You know you even to be in an institution. Okay, dog, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>if you won't go to intri rob But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually bigger than what Man has said about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bonding thing because it creates that unity and

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<v Speaker 1>he creates that that that that self sustainable situation that

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<v Speaker 1>you can branch home from. And what I mean by

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<v Speaker 1>that is this. I have two sons. My first son

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<v Speaker 1>is by marriage. My wife was marriage before. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>young widow, so you know my biology. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>adopted and so he's mine and my the one I sired,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's my pastors name on is very important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that I tell them, you know you,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something to the name that means something to you

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<v Speaker 1>that I show you. Hey, I've done this and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not me. This was done for me and I'm just passing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kicking this can further down the road. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I got this from my parents, who got it from

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<v Speaker 1>their parents, and I'm just building on this for future generations.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's very important. Again, I ain't look everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>do you do what you do? I'm saying if you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, I think that is the key to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our woes because it will bring in unity,

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<v Speaker 1>it will bring in a sense of structure, it will

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<v Speaker 1>it will bring in responsibility, and it will bring in

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<v Speaker 1>familiarity so that child in that situation you can come

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<v Speaker 1>home nor Okay, I'm gonna come home on, get on

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<v Speaker 1>my work, on, get on my goal, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to further that. And I have that support

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<v Speaker 1>based there to make that happen. I got the environment there.

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<v Speaker 1>We all see weeds growing between uh concrete cracks, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so those weeds are surviving. For all those weeds thriving,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? What or what is that grass? Let's

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 1>let's weeds are bad? Let's say grass. Is that grass thriving?

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<v Speaker 1>The ideal setting for that grass would be good, rich, fertile,

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<v Speaker 1>solt is water intended to the grass can steal, grow

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<v Speaker 1>between the cracks and survive. But what is the best

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<v Speaker 1>setting for that grass to thrive? I submit to you,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever else, so listen that if we create the setting

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<v Speaker 1>by which we can grow this next generation and grow

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<v Speaker 1>these kids up. Not to say everybody gonna come out

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<v Speaker 1>on top, but you've at least nurtured the environment and

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<v Speaker 1>create created the structure by which they can. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>is my thing. So that's all I mean by that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the hell. I'm dying on the marriage here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dying on for us. And again not that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about others, but I care about us. Voice

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<v Speaker 1>reloaded podcast will be right back after the spot. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you say to people who said, who point to

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<v Speaker 1>the high divoice rate between not just black people but

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<v Speaker 1>a people in the United States agree as evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>marriage is a lost cause. I completely disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely I mean I don't know. People say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it as well, and then I know the

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<v Speaker 1>divorce rate is high, and it's a lot of reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>so I say, still go forward. But see, it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be the reason why you marry. See, you can't

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 1>just marry the Mary. You can't rer because she got

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<v Speaker 1>the big butt or he got the nice car, or

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>you want to you gotta marry. Yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people get married because they don't want to see the

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<v Speaker 1>next person with this woman with this man. Correct, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a funk. Okay, so this is my my

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<v Speaker 1>two cents. You got to marry the internal person. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong. You can like the packaging, but the

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<v Speaker 1>packaging comes and goes. Man supposed she big as hell

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<v Speaker 1>and got teeth missing and her breast. Think that's you

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<v Speaker 1>cool with that as long as you like your personal

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<v Speaker 1>know you that good question? The only personality. But she

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<v Speaker 1>funny too? Yeah exactly, So No, you still gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>You still gotta be attracted to her, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about your boys being attracted to her. You got

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<v Speaker 1>it long as long as she does it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like that, and y'all are building something. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's my little thing. So in me, in my own situation,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my wife and she thought about

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<v Speaker 1>the proposed to her and for Christmas, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point I didn't find it out. Too

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<v Speaker 1>later she said, when you didn't propose me because I

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<v Speaker 1>took her to meet my parents. You know, I'm old school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like old school beaver cleaverand you know, the black

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<v Speaker 1>beaver cleverand I'm like, you know, meet the parents, get

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<v Speaker 1>the blessing, that type of stuff. So we went to

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<v Speaker 1>see my parents and and she just knew she would't

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 1>come back with a ring and all her coworkers, Girl,

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you get a ring, She's like nope. So at that point, y'all,

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I was on the clock, but I didn't know it.

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>So I ended up proposing a couple of months later

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>because I'll do it all my time, I won't try

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and do it like some traditional stuff. So anyway, pointy

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<v Speaker 1>is I believe I believe it's imperative that, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be attracted tour, but long as y'all are building

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.199
<v Speaker 1>something together, like building is that? Is? That? Is? That?

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that money that we that everything? It's all the above.

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It's funny say it's every category. Y'all know Dave Ramsey, right,

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't Willie Probabie do? Will you know everybody? Willy

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>his friends with everybody. He is, He's friends with everybody.

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>He's a he's a financial guy to Nashville, Tennessee, old white.

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>He checking out Dave rams dot com. He talks about anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So he talks about these four categories, and I'm hook line,

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>sinker soul. He says, if for a marriage, through my marriage,

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're rationale for hooking up with somebody, he said,

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 1>for marriage, your work. If you can be on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page of these four categories worries, this will be

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.959
<v Speaker 1>your path to success. Not every single instance, but this

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>is if you If you get on these four categories,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>usually usually set your faith, your finances, sex, and child raring.

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 1>So those four categories not in that order, but you know,

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>for that order for those who faith, your money, your sex,

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you know how y'all get down, and your child raying.

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.159
<v Speaker 1>You might be a spanker, she might not be a

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>spanker or whatever. But the point is, if you can

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>get on st page of those categories, you have a

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>high percential making it on the sex part. So back

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<v Speaker 1>to your question about the divorce ry. I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know things are crazy with divorce because we live in

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the social media world, and yeah, you have a lot

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of different information coming in and different stimulis, so you

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>it dilutes the message. But y'all know who friends to

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Chris Wilson is. You'll remember her, right, okay, all right,

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, So I'm a big, big, big friends to

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Chriss Wilson. I just meant to do that day telling

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>telling him about the icest papers. So for INDs to

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Chriss Wilson used to say, she said, don't marry to

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<v Speaker 1>your thirty And she said, in the meantime, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get your cell phone, get your career until you at

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<v Speaker 1>least at least that's what I'm saying to correct. And

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>she said, you know, get yourself. You know, all the fellows,

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>get your silling inside of you, get sow your oats,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>but get your career on. She get her career on.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So by time y'all come together, your mature And when

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.360
<v Speaker 1>she talking about maturewing about us, you know, we're way

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>behind the females in terms of years, light years exactly exactly.

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm two years old, my wife, but I'm four years

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>younger than her, because you know, she just she's running

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>ahead of me. So so the point is she talking.

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>She talks about that, and I've also abscribed to that

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>notion that, yeah, you gotta be about something. And so

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I know it's divorce rate, but I think people get

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>married because you heard she can really blow. She heard,

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>she heard you got a big one. Come on, it's

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>just nonsense. I mean nothing, nothing based on meaningful things.

0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>You gotta marry the person. So yeah, she could be

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<v Speaker 1>big or whatever. But if you got to look in

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the side, Yeah, but one of them titties might be

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>bigger than the other. I can't do nothing. I can't

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>do nothing with that. Let's let's let's a whole another

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole. You a moment ago, you talked about you

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about your career path Dodge. Now, considering the murky

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>relationship that the inner city communities have with law enforcement,

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>do you feel any type of responsibility to merge that gap,

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>especially with the youth and as a black man. Completely,

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Listen, That's what I told you.

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>That's why I got into this in first place. Please,

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in first place. So it's funny you mentioned that, So

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<v Speaker 1>April At for American Places, the league, that's our brand,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what that's what we do that listen seven and growing.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So so okay, So back in the day, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>again hold another tangent, back in the black officers weren't

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>allowed to do their thing. They really do have a

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>union or I have an organized group. Oh so again

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>may Walker and the founders of a pole At for

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>American Place actially just like seventy four. In the seventy

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>five the organzation started. Seventy five finally got this unionformed

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and you know, did their thing because you know, just

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>things were fouled, you know, across the board for yeah, right,

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>so so started this deal. So now it's grown to

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like I said, this membership. We have white, we have Asian,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we have like Latin members because we're all about community.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So back to your question, Yeah, there's you won't believe

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the number of officers. See people be like uh you

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>um oh, Curry, I mean that that's that's there's a

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>connect to that. But the vast majority officers are down

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>for they're not lost with who they are. They know

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly who they are and they understand why they're there,

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and you trust me, you want the officer that officer

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in that scene because that also changes that am of

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 1>how things go when they're present. Why really this So

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you have a predominantly black neighborhood, right, let's just say

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>an all black neighborhoods and you have um white officers

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>controlling or patrolling in this area. Do you think that

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that draws Uh? Uh, that's that's like that's like all

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>in water right completely, So, so why don't why are

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>we not responsible as black people to police our own area?

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, we speak the same language. You know you

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you you have you have compassion towards us as you

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>know somebody else would not have no compassion towards us whatsoever.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>We still we just little niggers to them with the

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>E R. So so, so answer your question. So there's

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a contingency of people who want to go in police

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>white alls who want to go to the neighborhood cause

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they can just do whatever. And let

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>me give you a prime example. I came on the

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>dude I used to ride with UM we were my

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>chance live in the same neighborhood, and we found that

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>out like first week, So we started um car pool together.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>His brother worked in northeast. Brooks the last name Brooks.

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Your brother worked in northeast and he said, yeah, my

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>brother said, He said, man, I can't wait on North.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Don work night shift. I'll be like I'm walking down.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh he said. He walked with me by on the corner.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Come here and grab my throat. And I'm like, what

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? So I'm like, I'm not going

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 1>northeas I didn't want to even get down like that,

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, so, so there's a contingent of people. Yes, yes,

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>who who who who? Because his brothers already there and

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he telling him this is how you get down. So

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a part of individuals who want to come and

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>keep talk about this a long time ago, you know,

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, do you eight our and hit the showers,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>come here and please this group this certain way, and

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they get on. Unfortunately, have officers of color who also

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>ascribe to that notion because they're trying to assimilate. Yeah,

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>but a right, But again that's a small minority their individuals. Yeah,

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you should have individuals who look like you because you

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>can relate. See when you have your officer coming from

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Iowa and you're like the third last person he had

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>his dealings with. He's not gonna know anything and his

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>he and there's no compassion like type of compassion. He

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>can't see himself and you or your nephew or your

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>little brother or the little that's not his mama, that's

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>not his. There you go. And that's not saying I'm

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>not saying you can't fairly please, No, they listen. I

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>just told you. I just I was a sergeant, was

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a patrol sergeant, so I had and I worked uh

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>um acre zone like fourteen sixteen fifteen, fourteen fifteen, so

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I had all right officers and maybe one spend concer.

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>No issues. I'll show up on seeing. And now because

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm showing up on seeing, they just they just did

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>things right. They just did things right. And I'm like, man,

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they handled their business. I wrote them up ardally because

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>they handled their business. They police fairly. Body Warren cameras

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>came out, so we review everybody's body one camera. You

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>have a squad, so you're as a sergeant, you have

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, so many officers up under you. You're required

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to review everybody on camera every month, so you see

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>what they do, not granted you you might miss the

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>one day act, the crazy on, but you get a

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>feel for them, you get a little JPR, little ratings,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and you see how they do and you just go

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to a couple of scenes how to interact. Again, nothing

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>is fool proof, y'all. But the bottom line is you're

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna just have to get individuals to understand treat people

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the way they should be treated and not just treat it.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Just do what's right. And let me throw this here

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>since we're talking, and this is this is I have

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a thousand sayings, but this is one of them. White

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>is not right? Right is right? M hmm. People think, oh,

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that's you're doing it this way. Just that's the white

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>man's way. So early on, when my early days in

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>South Park, they I got a couple of the times,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and it bothered me, uh just loose sleep. It bothered

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.959
<v Speaker 1>me insessantly. I'm like, why my uncle Tom up here

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to and that. So then this is my little

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>comeback I devise. I said, okay, So I said, okay,

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so why I'm uncle Town. Yeah, if you're down here

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>arresting song and so song and so for whatever, So

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I said it, check this out, man, all black world,

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody black? Is what you did to cry? Is that

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>an offense against somebody? You're stealing, you're beating somebody up,

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>you're doing Is that a crime? It is a crime.

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Shut the funk up there, and this this is about

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>what's what it's about. Right, And everybody across the board

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>ascribes right. Just nest too white. Nobody's caring to marketing

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>on righteousness. No group as a corner marketing righteousness. Now,

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>if you want to spit some groups, let's spit the

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>group of those who want to do right and those

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>who will commit to doing wrong. If you want to

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>spit some groups, but across the board, you've got individuals

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>who who want to help, and you got individuals who

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>want to tear down. So you know that's that's the

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>we're going on. That's not the end the race where

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's about individuals who want to do right.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>So went back to your initial question and your point

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>when you come to police. First of all, you have

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a special breed to you even want to

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>do this. It's kind of crazy. Remember gunshots, we're running

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>towards gunshots. People, everybody's running away from it, and we're

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to get to the bottom. And a lot of

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>times we be a cooperation for the public. Sometimes we don't,

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but we're still wanting to get out there and put

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>our life online for people who know them to know.

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's crazy because again I didn't grow up going

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to do this and like I wanted to do this

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>is just you know, it happened. So you ought to

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>be person who wants to help. But you gotta want

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to help everybody fairly. You can't just want to help

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>one particular group of one social and economic group or

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>one No, you gotta be across the board. So you know,

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>actual jobs also work at your jobs. So I would

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you work at a MC at willow Brook And I

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>had some some skinheads come in and this is horrible,

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. So I had like, there was two

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>chicks and to do and they had like some crazy

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>shirts on and the church. The one female shirt was

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like a black T shirt and had the Europeanist Christ,

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, the very Christ like laid back like almost

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>in the tumb on some rocks and had a nun

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>kneeling in front of him, so you see the back

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>of the nun and he laid back almost like she's performing.

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>And then on the back on the back, now that's

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>front of the shirt offensive as it is. Then on

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the back of the shirt it said Jesus was a cunt.

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>So unt, you know, you know everybody that's a that's

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a big no word. So people come to me, white, Black,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Porterrican come to me just so I had to go

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>talk to him. They don't like me, and they're ready

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to jump on them. But I'm still I can't be like, uh,

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I can't know. I when I signed

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>shook his own. I took his own for everybody, so

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I gotta provide the same protection to you did I

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>do everybody else, regardless of how you your ideology. So

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I know got them out of it safely. But the

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>point is it's not about what someone thinks. It's about

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>when I signed up for this. I gotta be fair

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to everybody. So any officer, white, Black, Puerto Rican, Asian, Latino, whomever,

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care what what side of plates you

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 1>back from. If you're out here to help, then damn

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the help. But how do you reconcile being a black

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>man in America and working for an organization that was

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>founded to hunt intimidate, destroy, diminish, subjugate black people. Good question.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>So obviously slave patrols. Yeah, that's how police started, right,

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>we get that, right, so understood. I mean I'm saying

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that I have known that for a long time. Bottom

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>line is you got to get in to mix it,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to mix it up and make that difference. You know,

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>we can be on the outside and be like ra

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>ra ra, or we can get in and change the culture.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>And again if going back to what you're saying, if

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>if that's the case, then if you never get in,

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna remain all white and you never get you

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>get the guy from Iowa and Idaho coming to police

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>who can't relate verse you getting in. So you know

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that classic be the change you want to see. Or

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to your point, you know, back in the day in

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>New York, the Irish people used to be abused all

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the time by police officers. There were Irish community was

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in either Italian community was abused by police. They were scum,

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, were degenerate exactly exactly. And what they did

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>is that they started becoming police officers. But what's interesting

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>is that once they overtook these departments, they started doing

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing to the next class of people

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>who they viewed as a lower class. They started murdering

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and robbing and planting cases and your story they started.

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's where we are right now in New York.

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>New York NYPD is one of the worst police forces

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>on the planet, not just the United States of America,

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>but the planet agree. There are rings of their, prostitution rings,

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>narcotics rings, all the things within the ind agree. And

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if any of Houston, but I'm you know,

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>in right, because it's just just numbers along simple fourth

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>largest city. It is gonna be third. So and answer

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>your question again, I say to you, what's your motivation

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>for getting into this? Do you really want to help?

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>If you really want to help, again, it's a calling,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's above and about the money. You gotta

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>really want to get out there and help somebody and

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>do the right thing. And not every single person can

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>do the right thing. I have classmates who have been arrested.

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.479
<v Speaker 1>I had a classmate who took his own life because

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>these I did doing file stuff. Um that's my academy classmates. Um,

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>all things happen. But if you're in this for the

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>right reason, and you stay true to your your why.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>So so before I retired, I would go on occasion

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.280
<v Speaker 1>talk to some academy classes and one of my another

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>saying is monderline messages. You remember your why you know?

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And this even for old heads, why did you get

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>into this? You know, when you were green and idealistic,

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Why do you say you want to do this? And

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>aby as those kids now you know, we go to

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.240
<v Speaker 1>talk to you, dad, I want to make a difference.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a chance. Okay, what you gotta

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>keep that as you're carried, you know, in front of you,

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>because you want to come across opportunities to do all

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>kinds of stuff illegal. You're gonna come across bribery. You're

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna come across Back to my rookie year. I was

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>in thirteen district. And remember, jump our boys. Obviously I

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>mean to say that because you know, I remember I

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:41.399
<v Speaker 1>understand this. Listen, this is new to all this stuff

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>new to me because I'm not from here, so all

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>these terms, it's okay again, I know the consplate was

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, so jump my boys. We're going to go

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>do it in thirteen right across the street. You know,

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>right across on Maccawa, East Macawa, and they need to

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>marking to go, so I'm the marketing is chosen. So

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>they're go and kick the door. Get my man down,

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>young brother hens I'm in there, hooked him up. They're like, rookie,

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>stay here and watch this room. And I'm in this

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>bedroom with I can't tell how much money A lot,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I'm there to guard the money and

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I did. But um, the whole deal is I never

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>thought once about, oh, let me get some of this money.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>That's not how that's not why I got into this,

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, jumping subjects the police department. If for those

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>who were interested, they want to know if you have

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>good credit, and I didn't understand why they thought that

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>was why would you want? What difference does it make?

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And it makes a difference because your credit speaks of

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>your integrity, It speaks of if you know you, oh,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>are you want to pay? Are you going to default

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 1>on it? So so that's the little miss testing of itself.

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>But I don't understand that coming in. So you'll have

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>opportunities to do crazy stuff and if you choose to

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>do it, you that's you ain't no coming back. That's

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that. You know you ain't on the Jedi right,

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you're going the sixth route. You know you're going You're

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>going on the dark side route. Because once you do it,

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you caught, it gets good to you. Remember Drew Peterson

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that also up in Ohio, killed all his wives and stuff. Okay,

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you start doing stuffing, you just start doing crazy stuff,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and you never when you turn it off. So the

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:20.479
<v Speaker 1>ideal is, try to never ever be corrupted. Try never

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>ever don't let the temptation of money or whatever, or

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>girls or whatever your thing is. I don't whatever your

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>thing is, understand your why because if you understand your why,

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you'll stay resolute. Look, look, I'll tell you a thousand stories.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, but he's too quick. I've been at

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>movie theater minded my business, off duty, doing my thing

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>about four times so many my years. Dudes coming to me,

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>he man, what's up? Like, hey, what's up here? You

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 1>remember me? He's smiling like nah, you're like, man, you

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>arrest me back and so on. So he he's telling me,

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>rest him with a smile, ask me why what? Because

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I could respectful exactly. Look, look I get it, you

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>do what you do. But it's not personal. Now I

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>just started personal, man when you put me in jail,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, bro, Listen, listen, listen, real talk.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>So that I was an acre song, so night shift, awesome,

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>six district, so six O one, all those. Also I

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>told you about the young young, so I would show

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>them this clip and then y'all can watch it later on.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>It's an old um, not bugs Bunny, but during that era,

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like offshoot. It's it's Sam the sheep

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>dog and Ralph the coyote, and it's basically they meet

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the cartoon and they punch a clock.

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>They literally punch a clock, and the sheep dog get

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>on guard and the kyote starts stealing sheep and they

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>spend time and he's still something me catching beat him

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>up and one at one point he got about to

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>blastom and that the lunch whistle blow, so they stopped,

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>go eat lunch together. Then they go resumed. What's the

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>blow again? He go resumes the thing be right, and

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>then at the end of the day he said, see exactly.

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So I showed a lot of I didn't always show,

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>but I would show some of my young officers who

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 1>were just coming out that video, just say, look, dude,

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not personal, so you can't take it personally. This

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>dude is doing a crime. You put him in jail,

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and he does his time and and get on. It's

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 1>not your job to judge jury, executioner. You do your job,

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>get him to the jail. That course doesn't play it

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>out and that's it. Don't take it so personally that

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you how dear you want me? They

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be the jets that you and the execution

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Boys reloaded podcast will be right back after the sport.

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>This is one thing that I wanted to, uh say

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>say to make sure that I speak on I heard

0:42:55.160 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you moments to go talk about how this co that

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe from Iowa who cannot relate to people in the

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 1>black community, uh may commit transgressions against them because he

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>can't relate to them and he don't feel anything, He

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>don't see his brother, his himself or whatever. Yeah, in

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>these situations are with these people now. The reason why

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and I understand that I do understand that's part of

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the reason, but the greater reason is because they're not

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>being held accountable. You see, because you can flip the

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 1>strip and script and say, well, why don't black officers

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing. I see black officers patrolling white

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods all the time, and black officers aren't jumping out

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>killing white folks. Black folks are not black folks. Black

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>black officers are not abusing white folks and stretching their

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>authority because they know they're gonna be penalized. They know

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be punished. And but but I'm but I'm saying,

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.879
<v Speaker 1>even if they were on that tip, retribution keeps them

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>in order. The imminent retribution keeps them in order. And

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>these white cops are not in order because there is

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>not imminent retribution. And so a lot of these cops

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>out here doing what they're doing because they know that

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to be consequences, and even if they are,

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that they're gonna be exonerated at

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>some point. Because they got this strong union. Well it's

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>not so much it's just good I mean union, Yeah,

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 1>that's part of you. But really it's the good boy thing.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>They got the union, they got the prosecutor, they got

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>the judge, they got a whole lot of things going

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>on that that allows them to continue their So so yeah,

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a fact. I mean, it's it's unfortunate. And

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you would think that the buckaroo system is going where

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the dinosaur, but there hasn't. But again, understand this, as

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>time goes on, thing is changing. It's a slow process.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>But again state of course, you know, I'm not with

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the slow progress process though. You know why because when

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>white folks in this country won't something they get it

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>ain't no slow process. The motherfucker's go straight into that

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 1>room and write along and the next day that ship

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>is happening. Immediately they do that ship. I don't want

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to hear that slow process ship. I don't want his

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>change is slow and all that ship? Now, now what

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 1>what what slow? Is a motherfucker who don't see what's happening.

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 1>That's slow, you know what I'm saying. Like, so when

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 1>we talk about uh, when we talk about um um reform,

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>police reform, uh, this is not like some type of

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>foreign concept, man, This is this is going back to

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>what you were saying, really treating people how they want

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to be treated. We don't really need police reform. We

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>need police to fucking conform. You know what I'm saying.

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.320
<v Speaker 1>You new laws. Exactly, do we need these motherfucker's to

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>be held accountable? Because the laws are already in prace.

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>They need to be held accountable. They're not being held

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>at time. Hold on, and let me say this. It's

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>not just it's not just they're superiors who are not

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>holding them accountable. It's not just the unions that's not

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>holding the accountable. It's not just the prosecutors. It's not

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just the judges. It's also your local politicians, your your

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>your your city, your city councilmen, it's your state reps.

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>It's your congressmen and women, it's your presidents. It's all

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 1>these motherfucker's are in the same game. And if they wanted,

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>they got the power to stop this ship overnight. They

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>could not overnight right now if they wanted to. If

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they right now, I said, okay, we're coming after every

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker that get out of line, every one of you.

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>So you raise his motherfucker's that crossed that line and

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do that fucked up ship, We're gonna get you. And

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 1>once it start happening and they see that, they're gonna

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 1>buck at first, They're gonna buck at first, The Union

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna buck well, we're not gonna go to work. That's

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>what we'll do. We won't show up. They'll buck at first,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but the moment they start replacing their asses them, that

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 1>ship will change. Like that. They're not willing to hold

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>them accountable because they're playing politics with people's lives. The

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>police force in New York turn their back on the

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>S's what I meant. That's what I meant. That's the

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>type of ship they'll do. They got too much power.

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>The unions have too much power. They got they got

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>too much power. So agree, So here's your deal. So

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>answer your question. So let's go back in time a

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit and I go to shrine a lot. Well

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you two haven't gone recently, but trying Black Madonna and

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I will go to those three class they had there,

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and they talked about this incest incessantly, so they would say,

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, back in the day, the government had a

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>choice either start investing money and resources into the community.

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Well let it go to the where you're going the

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>way you see it went with the drugs, and just

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>turn it. Let let whatever happens happened. And you see

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the decision that was made, and we're still in that

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>flux of that decision being that was made years ago,

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and what you see now is just a mansversation of

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>what decision made late six yearly seventies into as we

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>speak now, and it continues to be made. So so

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it goes back to that accountability thing. And I hate this.

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I hate this because okay, so again I'm fifty five,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm voting both y'all. Right, now we're insane. You're older

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>than me. Both of y'all older than me. Wh's your birthday? September? September. Yeah,

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 1>he's older than one can okay, alright, cool, So here's

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>my point. Here's my point. So so remember downing here,

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So downing here, you know, pre open days, it was

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>done here. So on you had um, somebody on and

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe a fair kind I don't know who was, but

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the point is that, don't You had somebody on and

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>a white lady got up and she said, and I

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:12.320
<v Speaker 1>think I think I hear vowed not not that, not that,

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.479
<v Speaker 1>not that that clear. That's funny they say that because

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I know that too. So um, she says, she says, yeah, um,

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you get yourself out of situation. She was spitting so

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>much venom. She got up and She's like, yeah, you

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:28.240
<v Speaker 1>get yourself out of the situation. And I'm a teenager

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of time, and I just I felt like crying, like,

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>give myself you you have created a situation. Get ourselves out,

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you're asking. I just thought that was such a hard

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.439
<v Speaker 1>line to take, But unfortunately that's what we've been told, Mary,

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>So get yourself a situation. So it goes back to

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>let's get back on my horse. That goes back to this,

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that goes back to us doing what's right. And I think,

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and again this is I could be outside my neck

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 1>on this from but I don't think. I am. I

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 1>think if we start doing our things, and I'm not saying,

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>lets look, we gotta do our thing too. We we

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>got some skin in the game too, because it's our

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 1>own futures. It doesn't matter what others are doing. If

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you start at home, if we just keep it at

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>home with how we handle ourselves. I can't step on

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>your shoe and you want to shoot me or you.

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>It can't be that. I can't, I can't wanna. It

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>has to be bigger than that. My my love, my

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>love for you has to be way greater than some

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>affront you did to me. So side note to the

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>side note personally, and I don't know y'all stories. I

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>let a lot of ship ride over the years on

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>end off because I'm like bigger fish to fight, a

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>bigger fish to fry, and bigger fight to go at.

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't that little incidental stuff on the race tip

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 1>within the rate. I let a lot of stuff. Yeah, okay, whatever,

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not trying to fight you bro, we gotta.

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to build some community. I'm trying I want

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 1>some families, some structuring, some guidance in a sense of

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>commun did when people actually care. You know again, I

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.800
<v Speaker 1>can go all over the map on this. George Floyd,

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>let's jump here, let's go let's go here. This is

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>so so y'all know. The deal happened in twenty like

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>more of day twenties when he got killed right right

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>here front of everybody. So you know, he had they

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>had a funeral form in Minnesota, and then like July

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>June nine, they had a funeral form here. So I'm

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>working at casts Maxtra job the one on the orisional

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>one of West Timer and um pandemis on. But you know,

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Bami is still kind of fresh. So we're still letting

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>people in and won't know, like stop people at door.

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>So the blobby is full and it's a dude in

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>there and he's wearing I remember he I knew he wouldn't.

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>He just looked like he was out of town. He

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.720
<v Speaker 1>had Los Angeles Los Angeles sippers instead of clippers, like sippers,

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I just remember that shirt stood out.

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>And he's with a girl, real bad girl, super bad girl,

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like super bad, and he's like, yeah, he just like

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>made a spectrum himself, and he's messed with this other

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 1>brother in line, and I'm like, I'm watching up there,

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm watching further than that. He like started

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 1>almost wanted to dude, and the other dude had a

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>pregnant girl with him. I'm going on like, hey man,

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, hey, hey, why don't you calm down?

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>And I asked him step outside. He goes outside and

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he's with a crew and they were like they were, uh,

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.240
<v Speaker 1>are seen him in parking earlier, like maybe twill deep anyway,

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 1>So we're going going back and forth and now I'm like,

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>hey man, you know you need to calm down. He

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>getting agitated about like he wanted to get that. To dude,

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>he like looking over me, taller to me, you're looking

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>over me, and I'm like, hey, man, calmed down, and

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>he slapped my hand and the dude with him, the

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 1>dude's name was Trey. Because I even I end up writing,

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I even journald about this, I call I called it

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the Trouble with Trey, based on the trouble with troubles

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>with Starting. So I put because I thought it was

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.440
<v Speaker 1>so troubling that that this dude. Now, this is the

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>week of George Foord fer. We're here in Easton, so

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a Friday before so like the funerals like

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>on the ninth or whatever that Tuesday Wednesday, So just

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the Friday right before this, so everybody knows George forsting

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are about to be in this week. So this dude

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 1>slap my hand away, and dude with him who said

0:52:57.840 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he to do? Say? It was his cousin and Quincy,

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>he's actually name. He said, what are you doing? He said, trade,

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? And Quincy grabbed train and tried

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to shove him back towards the parking lot and I

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:11.239
<v Speaker 1>let that ride. Now while I let her ride, Bro,

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 1>this is the week at George Flord's funeral. I'll be there.

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I gonna get into some officer on blackmail confrontation the

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>week at George forrest funeral. And then I told you

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a twelve deep and in me getting some skirmmage in

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the officer assistant that this thing could have snowballed until

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>who knows what if. I was like, hey, respect my authority.

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Time I let her ride. I let it ride because

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I thought, big picture, this can go sideways real quick.

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And for what this dude clearly was out of his head,

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>zoned up doing whatever he had in the system. So

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he's at the restaurant. So that was it. Long behold

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and I wrap it up long behold. After he's out,

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>some other dude come in and giving me I'm talking

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>about some me mugging, so like, hey, what's up, you know?

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>And he's like he was part of the group, And

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I said, you looking for your boy? I said, yeah,

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>he's not in here, and we met him getting a

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation and I'm like, do you wanna do you want

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to eat here? Do you want to leave? And I'm like, listen,

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I ain't trying to go this route, but bro, we

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>sure gotta have arter, we should go have a structure.

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Your boy was fouled, the other dude removed him, Thank

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:17.320
<v Speaker 1>God for that. But we ain't trying to lenker this

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>own and they end up lieving. Nothing became of it.

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I never had to call for units or nothing like that.

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But my point is, just think if that slap of

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>my hand would have turned into me and him scuffling,

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and me and him fighting and then them jumping in

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and weapons draw for what. This is the week of

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd's funeral in Houston for what. So I don't

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.280
<v Speaker 1>know if that. I'm sure I'm way off on a tangent,

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>But does that make sense what I'm saying It does

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.440
<v Speaker 1>make sense, and and and if more officers had your

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>type of mentality, especially white police off and by the way,

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>let me say this right now, I believe, I believe

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that white police officers should not police in the United

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 1>States South America because they're too bias. Now I'm serious

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that they're a one is doing all these killing the

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 1>white right. The white police officers are the wars doing

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>all these killing, So they should be white police. These

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>white police officers should be profiled just like they profiled

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Middle Easterners and thinking everybody gonna blow up something. Totally

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>vet them to make sure that they ain't got it

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>in them. You know, they really need to be checked hard.

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I know we gotta go, but I got I gotta

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I got a couple I got a couple more questions.

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I really want to ask you real quick. I need

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.879
<v Speaker 1>to first of all, get your thoughts on the Young

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Thug and Ghana situation where they've they've been brought up

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>on charges. What's your thought about these rappers? Yeah, we

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 1>just just with Young Thug and Rico UM and Young

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Thug and UH and Ghana was brought up on RICO

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:57.399
<v Speaker 1>charges along with several other members of their uh their

0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>camp okay, and then us other rappers around the country

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.839
<v Speaker 1>that have been brought up on RICO charges because they're

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>closely affiliated to the streets and so whereas they may

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 1>not even have anything to do with it, but they're

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>being accused because they're hanging out with these guys. They're

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>kicking it with these guys, and these guys are being

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 1>accused of committing crimes they're getting connected to the RICO Act. Well,

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are your thoughts to that in the

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>way that law enforcement uses to not be the case

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>only simply because, I mean, you can't control who you

0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>grew up with. You can't control family members if you've

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 1>got them doing whatever. Again, I'm not one. I'm not

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna sit and tell y'all I'm down with people doing

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>file stuff. I'm not. I just told you I'm walk

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to straight lines best you can. However, I don't want

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to sit up here and just brought stroke everybody because

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of your affiliation with whomever. So just because you know

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.839
<v Speaker 1>somebody or do whatever, don't mean you are also doing

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the same dirt. So that's it's not good at what

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>they're actually accusing young thug of O can a hit

0:56:56.200 --> 0:57:01.439
<v Speaker 1>goddamn different. That's that's a little different now that they're

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>they're accusing me. I don't know. I don't know if

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they have any proof of that, but that's what they're

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they're saying. Uh, before we let you go, man, what

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what is it that we can do, society, the people,

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the community can do to to forge a better relationship

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>with law enforcement. What we can do the forge better

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>relationship with law specifically black people. We got got you.

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>So what we can do is, first of all, it's

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>from the officer's point of view and our point of view.

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Stop being adversario with each other. Officers got to stop

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 1>being oh a long come to his neighborhood, plice this

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:42.439
<v Speaker 1>way and think I'm gonna do this, And individuals gotta understand, Look,

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't. Every officer is not gonna be treat you

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the same way that last officers treated you. And see

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that goes back to the whole thing about hey, you're

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>ast me back there. I gotta do right by you.

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's not personally. I keep saying, it's not personal.

0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>You did a crime. I restus you. You went to jail,

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>came suspected of a crime. Suspect the cry right right, right,

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>right right, start the crime. So then let the courses

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and play it out. Good point, good clarification, suspect the crime.

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I do my deal, Let courses and play it out.

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>You've come back out. You ain't doing no crime or

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>suspect doing a crime. We ain't got no issue. So

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is we black people, let's start being

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for our actions, just like these also need be

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for actions, meaning we don't everything can't be oh

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<v Speaker 1>because whatever, Let's do the right thing. As best we can,

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<v Speaker 1>not like I said I can. I'm sure you got

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen stories. You got eighteen stories about somebody also doing

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<v Speaker 1>you wrong. I just told you one deal earlier about

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an also getting done wrong by an also. But

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<v Speaker 1>the point is we need to have a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>community back to friends of Chris Wolson, sense of community,

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<v Speaker 1>sense of Hey, we gotta look out for ourselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Panthers back in the day, what was

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<v Speaker 1>that all about. That was about community policing ourselves, protecting

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<v Speaker 1>our own community because law enforcement Open California wasn't doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, we're doing it ourselves, you know, Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>angels to some regards up in New York and every

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else. So we have to be accountable for our

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<v Speaker 1>own actions, look out for each other. Don't let so

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<v Speaker 1>and so who you know, be messing lesson kids make it.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't make it, she can't make it. That's not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You got kid, I gottet. Nobody wants who who wants

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<v Speaker 1>their child lesson? Nobody who wants their Catholytic converter stolen?

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<v Speaker 1>No one who wants there? Uh you cut me off

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<v Speaker 1>in traffic on shoot that you now no one wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just have to if you're asking, and you

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<v Speaker 1>and you are, we have to rewrite d program and

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<v Speaker 1>reprogram ourselves to have a love for one another and

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<v Speaker 1>overlook a lot of transgressions that we normally would be

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<v Speaker 1>fighting on and shooting on and personal on and let

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<v Speaker 1>it ride and look step back and look at the

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<v Speaker 1>big picture. And the big picture is we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be fully give ourselves every chance to be that blade

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<v Speaker 1>of grass, that fertile field, not that blade of grass

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<v Speaker 1>growing between those cracks and the concrete be that create

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<v Speaker 1>that setting where we all can grow up and had

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<v Speaker 1>this rich field of grass, a bunch of blades together

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<v Speaker 1>a field, not singular blade, singler blade, single blade, a

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<v Speaker 1>community of blades making a field of rich uh grass

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<v Speaker 1>that's is strong and focused on uplift. I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>answers the question. That answers the question man, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a unity and and your and your unity community

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<v Speaker 1>and your former point which is treat people like you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be treated. Man. Thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the show any time, Sergeant came to card no more time.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was produced by a King and brought to

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