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Speaker 1: next person with this woman with this man. Correct, I

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Speaker 1: don't give a funk. Okay, so this is my my

423
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Speaker 1: two cents. You got to marry the internal person. Don't

424
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Speaker 1: get me wrong. You can like the packaging, but the

425
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: packaging comes and goes. Man supposed she big as hell

426
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: and got teeth missing and her breast. Think that's you

427
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 1: cool with that as long as you like your personal

428
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: know you that good question? The only personality. But she

429
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: funny too? Yeah exactly, So No, you still gotta have

430
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Speaker 1: You still gotta be attracted to her, but you can't

431
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Speaker 1: worry about your boys being attracted to her. You got

432
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Speaker 1: it long as long as she does it for you.

433
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: And I like that, and y'all are building something. So

434
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Speaker 1: here's my little thing. So in me, in my own situation,

435
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: I was talking to my wife and she thought about

436
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Speaker 1: the proposed to her and for Christmas, and I didn't

437
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Speaker 1: And at that point I didn't find it out. Too

438
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Speaker 1: later she said, when you didn't propose me because I

439
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: took her to meet my parents. You know, I'm old school.

440
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm like old school beaver cleaverand you know, the black

441
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: beaver cleverand I'm like, you know, meet the parents, get

442
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: the blessing, that type of stuff. So we went to

443
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Speaker 1: see my parents and and she just knew she would't

444
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: come back with a ring and all her coworkers, Girl,

445
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: you get a ring, She's like nope. So at that point, y'all,

446
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: I was on the clock, but I didn't know it.

447
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: So I ended up proposing a couple of months later

448
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: because I'll do it all my time, I won't try

449
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: and do it like some traditional stuff. So anyway, pointy

450
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Speaker 1: is I believe I believe it's imperative that, yeah, you

451
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: gotta be attracted tour, but long as y'all are building

452
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Speaker 1: something together, like building is that? Is? That? Is? That?

453
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Speaker 1: Is that money that we that everything? It's all the above.

454
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Speaker 1: It's funny say it's every category. Y'all know Dave Ramsey, right,

455
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't Willie Probabie do? Will you know everybody? Willy

456
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: his friends with everybody. He is, He's friends with everybody.

457
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: He's a he's a financial guy to Nashville, Tennessee, old white.

458
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Speaker 1: He checking out Dave rams dot com. He talks about anyway.

459
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Speaker 1: So he talks about these four categories, and I'm hook line,

460
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Speaker 1: sinker soul. He says, if for a marriage, through my marriage,

461
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: and you're rationale for hooking up with somebody, he said,

462
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Speaker 1: for marriage, your work. If you can be on the

463
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Speaker 1: same page of these four categories worries, this will be

464
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 1: your path to success. Not every single instance, but this

465
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: is if you If you get on these four categories,

466
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: usually usually set your faith, your finances, sex, and child raring.

467
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: So those four categories not in that order, but you know,

468
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: for that order for those who faith, your money, your sex,

469
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: you know how y'all get down, and your child raying.

470
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Speaker 1: You might be a spanker, she might not be a

471
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Speaker 1: spanker or whatever. But the point is, if you can

472
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Speaker 1: get on st page of those categories, you have a

473
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Speaker 1: high percential making it on the sex part. So back

474
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Speaker 1: to your question about the divorce ry. I know, I

475
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: know things are crazy with divorce because we live in

476
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Speaker 1: the social media world, and yeah, you have a lot

477
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Speaker 1: of different information coming in and different stimulis, so you

478
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Speaker 1: it dilutes the message. But y'all know who friends to

479
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Speaker 1: Chris Wilson is. You'll remember her, right, okay, all right,

480
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Speaker 1: all right, So I'm a big, big, big friends to

481
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Speaker 1: Chriss Wilson. I just meant to do that day telling

482
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Speaker 1: telling him about the icest papers. So for INDs to

483
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Speaker 1: Chriss Wilson used to say, she said, don't marry to

484
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Speaker 1: your thirty And she said, in the meantime, you know,

485
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Speaker 1: get your cell phone, get your career until you at

486
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Speaker 1: least at least that's what I'm saying to correct. And

487
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: she said, you know, get yourself. You know, all the fellows,

488
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: get your silling inside of you, get sow your oats,

489
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: but get your career on. She get her career on.

490
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: So by time y'all come together, your mature And when

491
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: she talking about maturewing about us, you know, we're way

492
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Speaker 1: behind the females in terms of years, light years exactly exactly.

493
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Speaker 1: I'm two years old, my wife, but I'm four years

494
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Speaker 1: younger than her, because you know, she just she's running

495
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: ahead of me. So so the point is she talking.

496
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Speaker 1: She talks about that, and I've also abscribed to that

497
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: notion that, yeah, you gotta be about something. And so

498
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: I know it's divorce rate, but I think people get

499
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Speaker 1: married because you heard she can really blow. She heard,

500
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: she heard you got a big one. Come on, it's

501
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: just nonsense. I mean nothing, nothing based on meaningful things.

502
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: You gotta marry the person. So yeah, she could be

503
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: big or whatever. But if you got to look in

504
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: the side, Yeah, but one of them titties might be

505
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: bigger than the other. I can't do nothing. I can't

506
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: do nothing with that. Let's let's let's a whole another

507
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. You a moment ago, you talked about you

508
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: talked about your career path Dodge. Now, considering the murky

509
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Speaker 1: relationship that the inner city communities have with law enforcement,

510
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: do you feel any type of responsibility to merge that gap,

511
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: especially with the youth and as a black man. Completely,

512
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Listen, That's what I told you.

513
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Speaker 1: That's why I got into this in first place. Please,

514
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Speaker 1: in first place. So it's funny you mentioned that, So

515
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Speaker 1: April At for American Places, the league, that's our brand,

516
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: that's what that's what we do that listen seven and growing.

517
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Speaker 1: So so okay, So back in the day, and I'm

518
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Speaker 1: again hold another tangent, back in the black officers weren't

519
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: allowed to do their thing. They really do have a

520
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: union or I have an organized group. Oh so again

521
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: may Walker and the founders of a pole At for

522
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Speaker 1: American Place actially just like seventy four. In the seventy

523
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: five the organzation started. Seventy five finally got this unionformed

524
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: and you know, did their thing because you know, just

525
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: things were fouled, you know, across the board for yeah, right,

526
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: so so started this deal. So now it's grown to

527
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: like I said, this membership. We have white, we have Asian,

528
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: we have like Latin members because we're all about community.

529
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: So back to your question, Yeah, there's you won't believe

530
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: the number of officers. See people be like uh you

531
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Speaker 1: um oh, Curry, I mean that that's that's there's a

532
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: connect to that. But the vast majority officers are down

533
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: for they're not lost with who they are. They know

534
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: exactly who they are and they understand why they're there,

535
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: and you trust me, you want the officer that officer

536
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: in that scene because that also changes that am of

537
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: how things go when they're present. Why really this So

538
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: you have a predominantly black neighborhood, right, let's just say

539
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: an all black neighborhoods and you have um white officers

540
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: controlling or patrolling in this area. Do you think that

541
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: that draws Uh? Uh, that's that's like that's like all

542
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: in water right completely, So, so why don't why are

543
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: we not responsible as black people to police our own area?

544
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, we speak the same language. You know you

545
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: you you have you have compassion towards us as you

546
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: know somebody else would not have no compassion towards us whatsoever.

547
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: We still we just little niggers to them with the

548
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: E R. So so, so answer your question. So there's

549
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: a contingency of people who want to go in police

550
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: white alls who want to go to the neighborhood cause

551
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: they feel like they can just do whatever. And let

552
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: me give you a prime example. I came on the

553
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: dude I used to ride with UM we were my

554
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: chance live in the same neighborhood, and we found that

555
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: out like first week, So we started um car pool together.

556
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: His brother worked in northeast. Brooks the last name Brooks.

557
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Your brother worked in northeast and he said, yeah, my

558
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: brother said, He said, man, I can't wait on North.

559
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: Don work night shift. I'll be like I'm walking down.

560
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh he said. He walked with me by on the corner.

561
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: Come here and grab my throat. And I'm like, what

562
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So I'm like, I'm not going

563
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: northeas I didn't want to even get down like that,

564
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so, so there's a contingent of people. Yes, yes,

565
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: who who who who? Because his brothers already there and

566
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: he telling him this is how you get down. So

567
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: there's a part of individuals who want to come and

568
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: keep talk about this a long time ago, you know,

569
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, do you eight our and hit the showers,

570
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: come here and please this group this certain way, and

571
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: they get on. Unfortunately, have officers of color who also

572
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: ascribe to that notion because they're trying to assimilate. Yeah,

573
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: but a right, But again that's a small minority their individuals. Yeah,

574
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: you should have individuals who look like you because you

575
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: can relate. See when you have your officer coming from

576
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Iowa and you're like the third last person he had

577
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: his dealings with. He's not gonna know anything and his

578
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: he and there's no compassion like type of compassion. He

579
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: can't see himself and you or your nephew or your

580
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: little brother or the little that's not his mama, that's

581
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: not his. There you go. And that's not saying I'm

582
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: not saying you can't fairly please, No, they listen. I

583
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: just told you. I just I was a sergeant, was

584
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: a patrol sergeant, so I had and I worked uh

585
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: um acre zone like fourteen sixteen fifteen, fourteen fifteen, so

586
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: I had all right officers and maybe one spend concer.

587
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: No issues. I'll show up on seeing. And now because

588
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm showing up on seeing, they just they just did

589
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: things right. They just did things right. And I'm like, man,

590
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: they handled their business. I wrote them up ardally because

591
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: they handled their business. They police fairly. Body Warren cameras

592
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: came out, so we review everybody's body one camera. You

593
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: have a squad, so you're as a sergeant, you have

594
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, so many officers up under you. You're required

595
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: to review everybody on camera every month, so you see

596
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: what they do, not granted you you might miss the

597
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: one day act, the crazy on, but you get a

598
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: feel for them, you get a little JPR, little ratings,

599
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: and you see how they do and you just go

600
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: to a couple of scenes how to interact. Again, nothing

601
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: is fool proof, y'all. But the bottom line is you're

602
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna just have to get individuals to understand treat people

603
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: the way they should be treated and not just treat it.

604
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Just do what's right. And let me throw this here

605
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: since we're talking, and this is this is I have

606
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: a thousand sayings, but this is one of them. White

607
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: is not right? Right is right? M hmm. People think, oh,

608
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: that's you're doing it this way. Just that's the white

609
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: man's way. So early on, when my early days in

610
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: South Park, they I got a couple of the times,

611
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: and it bothered me, uh just loose sleep. It bothered

612
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: me insessantly. I'm like, why my uncle Tom up here

613
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: trying to and that. So then this is my little

614
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: comeback I devise. I said, okay, So I said, okay,

615
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: so why I'm uncle Town. Yeah, if you're down here

616
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: arresting song and so song and so for whatever, So

617
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: I said it, check this out, man, all black world,

618
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: everybody black? Is what you did to cry? Is that

619
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: an offense against somebody? You're stealing, you're beating somebody up,

620
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: you're doing Is that a crime? It is a crime.

621
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up there, and this this is about

622
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: what's what it's about. Right, And everybody across the board

623
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: ascribes right. Just nest too white. Nobody's caring to marketing

624
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: on righteousness. No group as a corner marketing righteousness. Now,

625
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: if you want to spit some groups, let's spit the

626
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: group of those who want to do right and those

627
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: who will commit to doing wrong. If you want to

628
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: spit some groups, but across the board, you've got individuals

629
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: who who want to help, and you got individuals who

630
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: want to tear down. So you know that's that's the

631
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: we're going on. That's not the end the race where

632
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: you know it's it's about individuals who want to do right.

633
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: So went back to your initial question and your point

634
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: when you come to police. First of all, you have

635
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: to be a special breed to you even want to

636
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: do this. It's kind of crazy. Remember gunshots, we're running

637
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: towards gunshots. People, everybody's running away from it, and we're

638
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to get to the bottom. And a lot of

639
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: times we be a cooperation for the public. Sometimes we don't,

640
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: but we're still wanting to get out there and put

641
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: our life online for people who know them to know.

642
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: And that's crazy because again I didn't grow up going

643
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: to do this and like I wanted to do this

644
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: is just you know, it happened. So you ought to

645
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: be person who wants to help. But you gotta want

646
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: to help everybody fairly. You can't just want to help

647
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: one particular group of one social and economic group or

648
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: one No, you gotta be across the board. So you know,

649
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: actual jobs also work at your jobs. So I would

650
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: you work at a MC at willow Brook And I

651
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: had some some skinheads come in and this is horrible,

652
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: but it's true. So I had like, there was two

653
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: chicks and to do and they had like some crazy

654
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: shirts on and the church. The one female shirt was

655
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: like a black T shirt and had the Europeanist Christ,

656
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, the very Christ like laid back like almost

657
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: in the tumb on some rocks and had a nun

658
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: kneeling in front of him, so you see the back

659
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: of the nun and he laid back almost like she's performing.

660
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: And then on the back on the back, now that's

661
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: front of the shirt offensive as it is. Then on

662
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: the back of the shirt it said Jesus was a cunt.

663
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: So unt, you know, you know everybody that's a that's

664
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: a big no word. So people come to me, white, Black,

665
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Porterrican come to me just so I had to go

666
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: talk to him. They don't like me, and they're ready

667
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: to jump on them. But I'm still I can't be like, uh,

668
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, like I can't know. I when I signed

669
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: shook his own. I took his own for everybody, so

670
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: I gotta provide the same protection to you did I

671
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: do everybody else, regardless of how you your ideology. So

672
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: I know got them out of it safely. But the

673
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: point is it's not about what someone thinks. It's about

674
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: when I signed up for this. I gotta be fair

675
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: to everybody. So any officer, white, Black, Puerto Rican, Asian, Latino, whomever,

676
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: And I don't care what what side of plates you

677
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: back from. If you're out here to help, then damn

678
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: the help. But how do you reconcile being a black

679
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: man in America and working for an organization that was

680
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: founded to hunt intimidate, destroy, diminish, subjugate black people. Good question.

681
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: So obviously slave patrols. Yeah, that's how police started, right,

682
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: we get that, right, so understood. I mean I'm saying

683
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: that I have known that for a long time. Bottom

684
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: line is you got to get in to mix it,

685
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: to mix it up and make that difference. You know,

686
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: we can be on the outside and be like ra

687
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: ra ra, or we can get in and change the culture.

688
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: And again if going back to what you're saying, if

689
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then if you never get in,

690
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna remain all white and you never get you

691
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: get the guy from Iowa and Idaho coming to police

692
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: who can't relate verse you getting in. So you know

693
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: that classic be the change you want to see. Or

694
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: to your point, you know, back in the day in

695
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: New York, the Irish people used to be abused all

696
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: the time by police officers. There were Irish community was

697
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: in either Italian community was abused by police. They were scum,

698
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, were degenerate exactly exactly. And what they did

699
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: is that they started becoming police officers. But what's interesting

700
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: is that once they overtook these departments, they started doing

701
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: the exact same thing to the next class of people

702
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: who they viewed as a lower class. They started murdering

703
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: and robbing and planting cases and your story they started.

704
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: And that's where we are right now in New York.

705
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: New York NYPD is one of the worst police forces

706
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: on the planet, not just the United States of America,

707
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: but the planet agree. There are rings of their, prostitution rings,

708
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: narcotics rings, all the things within the ind agree. And

709
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of Houston, but I'm you know,

710
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: in right, because it's just just numbers along simple fourth

711
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: largest city. It is gonna be third. So and answer

712
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: your question again, I say to you, what's your motivation

713
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: for getting into this? Do you really want to help?

714
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: If you really want to help, again, it's a calling,

715
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's above and about the money. You gotta

716
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: really want to get out there and help somebody and

717
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: do the right thing. And not every single person can

718
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: do the right thing. I have classmates who have been arrested.

719
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: I had a classmate who took his own life because

720
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: these I did doing file stuff. Um that's my academy classmates. Um,

721
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: all things happen. But if you're in this for the

722
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: right reason, and you stay true to your your why.

723
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: So so before I retired, I would go on occasion

724
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: talk to some academy classes and one of my another

725
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: saying is monderline messages. You remember your why you know?

726
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: And this even for old heads, why did you get

727
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: into this? You know, when you were green and idealistic,

728
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: Why do you say you want to do this? And

729
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: aby as those kids now you know, we go to

730
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: talk to you, dad, I want to make a difference.

731
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: I want to be a chance. Okay, what you gotta

732
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: keep that as you're carried, you know, in front of you,

733
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: because you want to come across opportunities to do all

734
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff illegal. You're gonna come across bribery. You're

735
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna come across Back to my rookie year. I was

736
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: in thirteen district. And remember, jump our boys. Obviously I

737
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: mean to say that because you know, I remember I

738
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: understand this. Listen, this is new to all this stuff

739
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: new to me because I'm not from here, so all

740
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: these terms, it's okay again, I know the consplate was

741
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: so anyway, so jump my boys. We're going to go

742
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: do it in thirteen right across the street. You know,

743
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: right across on Maccawa, East Macawa, and they need to

744
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: marking to go, so I'm the marketing is chosen. So

745
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: they're go and kick the door. Get my man down,

746
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: young brother hens I'm in there, hooked him up. They're like, rookie,

747
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: stay here and watch this room. And I'm in this

748
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: bedroom with I can't tell how much money A lot,

749
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot, and I'm there to guard the money and

750
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I did. But um, the whole deal is I never

751
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: thought once about, oh, let me get some of this money.

752
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: That's not how that's not why I got into this,

753
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: you know, jumping subjects the police department. If for those

754
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: who were interested, they want to know if you have

755
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: good credit, and I didn't understand why they thought that

756
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: was why would you want? What difference does it make?

757
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: And it makes a difference because your credit speaks of

758
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: your integrity, It speaks of if you know you, oh,

759
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: are you want to pay? Are you going to default

760
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: on it? So so that's the little miss testing of itself.

761
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: But I don't understand that coming in. So you'll have

762
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: opportunities to do crazy stuff and if you choose to

763
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: do it, you that's you ain't no coming back. That's

764
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: that's that. You know you ain't on the Jedi right,

765
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: you're going the sixth route. You know you're going You're

766
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: going on the dark side route. Because once you do it,

767
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: you caught, it gets good to you. Remember Drew Peterson

768
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: that also up in Ohio, killed all his wives and stuff. Okay,

769
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: you start doing stuffing, you just start doing crazy stuff,

770
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: and you never when you turn it off. So the

771
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: ideal is, try to never ever be corrupted. Try never

772
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: ever don't let the temptation of money or whatever, or

773
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: girls or whatever your thing is. I don't whatever your

774
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: thing is, understand your why because if you understand your why,

775
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: you'll stay resolute. Look, look, I'll tell you a thousand stories.

776
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, but he's too quick. I've been at

777
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: movie theater minded my business, off duty, doing my thing

778
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: about four times so many my years. Dudes coming to me,

779
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: he man, what's up? Like, hey, what's up here? You

780
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: remember me? He's smiling like nah, you're like, man, you

781
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: arrest me back and so on. So he he's telling me,

782
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: rest him with a smile, ask me why what? Because

783
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I could respectful exactly. Look, look I get it, you

784
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: do what you do. But it's not personal. Now I

785
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: just started personal, man when you put me in jail,

786
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: So I don't know, bro, Listen, listen, listen, real talk.

787
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: So that I was an acre song, so night shift, awesome,

788
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: six district, so six O one, all those. Also I

789
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: told you about the young young, so I would show

790
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: them this clip and then y'all can watch it later on.

791
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: It's an old um, not bugs Bunny, but during that era,

792
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: it's like it's like offshoot. It's it's Sam the sheep

793
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: dog and Ralph the coyote, and it's basically they meet

794
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the cartoon and they punch a clock.

795
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: They literally punch a clock, and the sheep dog get

796
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: on guard and the kyote starts stealing sheep and they

797
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: spend time and he's still something me catching beat him

798
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: up and one at one point he got about to

799
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: blastom and that the lunch whistle blow, so they stopped,

800
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: go eat lunch together. Then they go resumed. What's the

801
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: blow again? He go resumes the thing be right, and

802
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day he said, see exactly.

803
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: So I showed a lot of I didn't always show,

804
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: but I would show some of my young officers who

805
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: were just coming out that video, just say, look, dude,

806
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: it's not personal, so you can't take it personally. This

807
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: dude is doing a crime. You put him in jail,

808
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: and he does his time and and get on. It's

809
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: not your job to judge jury, executioner. You do your job,

810
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: get him to the jail. That course doesn't play it

811
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: out and that's it. Don't take it so personally that

812
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you feel like you how dear you want me? They

813
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: wanted to be the jets that you and the execution

814
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: Boys reloaded podcast will be right back after the sport.

815
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: This is one thing that I wanted to, uh say

816
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: say to make sure that I speak on I heard

817
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: you moments to go talk about how this co that

818
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: maybe from Iowa who cannot relate to people in the

819
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: black community, uh may commit transgressions against them because he

820
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: can't relate to them and he don't feel anything, He

821
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: don't see his brother, his himself or whatever. Yeah, in

822
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: these situations are with these people now. The reason why

823
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: and I understand that I do understand that's part of

824
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: the reason, but the greater reason is because they're not

825
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: being held accountable. You see, because you can flip the

826
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: strip and script and say, well, why don't black officers

827
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I see black officers patrolling white

828
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: neighborhoods all the time, and black officers aren't jumping out

829
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: killing white folks. Black folks are not black folks. Black

830
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: black officers are not abusing white folks and stretching their

831
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: authority because they know they're gonna be penalized. They know

832
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be punished. And but but I'm but I'm saying,

833
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: even if they were on that tip, retribution keeps them

834
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: in order. The imminent retribution keeps them in order. And

835
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: these white cops are not in order because there is

836
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: not imminent retribution. And so a lot of these cops

837
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: out here doing what they're doing because they know that

838
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: they're not going to be consequences, and even if they are,

839
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that they're gonna be exonerated at

840
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: some point. Because they got this strong union. Well it's

841
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: not so much it's just good I mean union, Yeah,

842
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: that's part of you. But really it's the good boy thing.

843
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: They got the union, they got the prosecutor, they got

844
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: the judge, they got a whole lot of things going

845
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: on that that allows them to continue their So so yeah,

846
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: that's that's a fact. I mean, it's it's unfortunate. And

847
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: you would think that the buckaroo system is going where

848
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: the dinosaur, but there hasn't. But again, understand this, as

849
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: time goes on, thing is changing. It's a slow process.

850
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: But again state of course, you know, I'm not with

851
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: the slow progress process though. You know why because when

852
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: white folks in this country won't something they get it

853
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: ain't no slow process. The motherfucker's go straight into that

854
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: room and write along and the next day that ship

855
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: is happening. Immediately they do that ship. I don't want

856
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: to hear that slow process ship. I don't want his

857
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: change is slow and all that ship? Now, now what

858
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: what what slow? Is a motherfucker who don't see what's happening.

859
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: That's slow, you know what I'm saying. Like, so when

860
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: we talk about uh, when we talk about um um reform,

861
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: police reform, uh, this is not like some type of

862
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: foreign concept, man, This is this is going back to

863
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: what you were saying, really treating people how they want

864
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: to be treated. We don't really need police reform. We

865
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: need police to fucking conform. You know what I'm saying.

866
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: You new laws. Exactly, do we need these motherfucker's to

867
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: be held accountable? Because the laws are already in prace.

868
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: They need to be held accountable. They're not being held

869
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: at time. Hold on, and let me say this. It's

870
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: not just it's not just they're superiors who are not

871
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: holding them accountable. It's not just the unions that's not

872
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: holding the accountable. It's not just the prosecutors. It's not

873
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: just the judges. It's also your local politicians, your your

874
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: your your city, your city councilmen, it's your state reps.

875
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: It's your congressmen and women, it's your presidents. It's all

876
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's are in the same game. And if they wanted,

877
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: they got the power to stop this ship overnight. They

878
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: could not overnight right now if they wanted to. If

879
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: they right now, I said, okay, we're coming after every

880
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: motherfucker that get out of line, every one of you.

881
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: So you raise his motherfucker's that crossed that line and

882
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: do that fucked up ship, We're gonna get you. And

883
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: once it start happening and they see that, they're gonna

884
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: buck at first, They're gonna buck at first, The Union

885
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: gonna buck well, we're not gonna go to work. That's

886
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: what we'll do. We won't show up. They'll buck at first,

887
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: but the moment they start replacing their asses them, that

888
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: ship will change. Like that. They're not willing to hold

889
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: them accountable because they're playing politics with people's lives. The

890
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: police force in New York turn their back on the

891
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: S's what I meant. That's what I meant. That's the

892
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: type of ship they'll do. They got too much power.

893
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: The unions have too much power. They got they got

894
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: too much power. So agree, So here's your deal. So

895
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: answer your question. So let's go back in time a

896
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: little bit and I go to shrine a lot. Well

897
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: you two haven't gone recently, but trying Black Madonna and

898
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: I will go to those three class they had there,

899
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: and they talked about this incest incessantly, so they would say,

900
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, the government had a

901
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: choice either start investing money and resources into the community.

902
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Well let it go to the where you're going the

903
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: way you see it went with the drugs, and just

904
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: turn it. Let let whatever happens happened. And you see

905
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: the decision that was made, and we're still in that

906
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: flux of that decision being that was made years ago,

907
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: and what you see now is just a mansversation of

908
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: what decision made late six yearly seventies into as we

909
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: speak now, and it continues to be made. So so

910
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: it goes back to that accountability thing. And I hate this.

911
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I hate this because okay, so again I'm fifty five,

912
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm voting both y'all. Right, now we're insane. You're older

913
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: than me. Both of y'all older than me. Wh's your birthday? September? September. Yeah,

914
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: he's older than one can okay, alright, cool, So here's

915
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: my point. Here's my point. So so remember downing here,

916
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: So downing here, you know, pre open days, it was

917
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: done here. So on you had um, somebody on and

918
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: maybe a fair kind I don't know who was, but

919
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: the point is that, don't You had somebody on and

920
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: a white lady got up and she said, and I

921
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: think I think I hear vowed not not that, not that,

922
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: not that that clear. That's funny they say that because

923
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: I know that too. So um, she says, she says, yeah, um,

924
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: you get yourself out of situation. She was spitting so

925
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: much venom. She got up and She's like, yeah, you

926
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: get yourself out of the situation. And I'm a teenager

927
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: of time, and I just I felt like crying, like,

928
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: give myself you you have created a situation. Get ourselves out,

929
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: you're asking. I just thought that was such a hard

930
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: line to take, But unfortunately that's what we've been told, Mary,

931
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: So get yourself a situation. So it goes back to

932
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: let's get back on my horse. That goes back to this,

933
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: that goes back to us doing what's right. And I think,

934
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: and again this is I could be outside my neck

935
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: on this from but I don't think. I am. I

936
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: think if we start doing our things, and I'm not saying,

937
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: lets look, we gotta do our thing too. We we

938
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: got some skin in the game too, because it's our

939
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: own futures. It doesn't matter what others are doing. If

940
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: you start at home, if we just keep it at

941
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: home with how we handle ourselves. I can't step on

942
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: your shoe and you want to shoot me or you.

943
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: It can't be that. I can't, I can't wanna. It

944
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: has to be bigger than that. My my love, my

945
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: love for you has to be way greater than some

946
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: affront you did to me. So side note to the

947
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: side note personally, and I don't know y'all stories. I

948
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: let a lot of ship ride over the years on

949
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: end off because I'm like bigger fish to fight, a

950
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry, and bigger fight to go at.

951
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: I don't that little incidental stuff on the race tip

952
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: within the rate. I let a lot of stuff. Yeah, okay, whatever,

953
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to fight you bro, we gotta.

954
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to build some community. I'm trying I want

955
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: some families, some structuring, some guidance in a sense of

956
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: commun did when people actually care. You know again, I

957
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: can go all over the map on this. George Floyd,

958
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: let's jump here, let's go let's go here. This is

959
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: so so y'all know. The deal happened in twenty like

960
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: more of day twenties when he got killed right right

961
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: here front of everybody. So you know, he had they

962
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: had a funeral form in Minnesota, and then like July

963
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: June nine, they had a funeral form here. So I'm

964
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: working at casts Maxtra job the one on the orisional

965
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: one of West Timer and um pandemis on. But you know,

966
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: Bami is still kind of fresh. So we're still letting

967
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: people in and won't know, like stop people at door.

968
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: So the blobby is full and it's a dude in

969
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: there and he's wearing I remember he I knew he wouldn't.

970
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: He just looked like he was out of town. He

971
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: had Los Angeles Los Angeles sippers instead of clippers, like sippers,

972
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I just remember that shirt stood out.

973
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: And he's with a girl, real bad girl, super bad girl,

974
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: like super bad, and he's like, yeah, he just like

975
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: made a spectrum himself, and he's messed with this other

976
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: brother in line, and I'm like, I'm watching up there,

977
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: and then I'm watching further than that. He like started

978
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: almost wanted to dude, and the other dude had a

979
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: pregnant girl with him. I'm going on like, hey man,

980
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: I said, hey, hey, hey, why don't you calm down?

981
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: And I asked him step outside. He goes outside and

982
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: he's with a crew and they were like they were, uh,

983
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: are seen him in parking earlier, like maybe twill deep anyway,

984
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: So we're going going back and forth and now I'm like,

985
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: hey man, you know you need to calm down. He

986
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: getting agitated about like he wanted to get that. To dude,

987
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: he like looking over me, taller to me, you're looking

988
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: over me, and I'm like, hey, man, calmed down, and

989
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: he slapped my hand and the dude with him, the

990
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: dude's name was Trey. Because I even I end up writing,

991
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: I even journald about this, I call I called it

992
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: the Trouble with Trey, based on the trouble with troubles

993
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: with Starting. So I put because I thought it was

994
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: so troubling that that this dude. Now, this is the

995
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: week of George Foord fer. We're here in Easton, so

996
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: this is a Friday before so like the funerals like

997
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: on the ninth or whatever that Tuesday Wednesday, So just

998
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: the Friday right before this, so everybody knows George forsting

999
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: are about to be in this week. So this dude

1000
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: slap my hand away, and dude with him who said

1001
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: he to do? Say? It was his cousin and Quincy,

1002
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: he's actually name. He said, what are you doing? He said, trade,

1003
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And Quincy grabbed train and tried

1004
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: to shove him back towards the parking lot and I

1005
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: let that ride. Now while I let her ride, Bro,

1006
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: this is the week at George Flord's funeral. I'll be there.

1007
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I gonna get into some officer on blackmail confrontation the

1008
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: week at George forrest funeral. And then I told you

1009
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: a twelve deep and in me getting some skirmmage in

1010
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: the officer assistant that this thing could have snowballed until

1011
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: who knows what if. I was like, hey, respect my authority.

1012
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: Time I let her ride. I let it ride because

1013
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: I thought, big picture, this can go sideways real quick.

1014
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: And for what this dude clearly was out of his head,

1015
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: zoned up doing whatever he had in the system. So

1016
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: he's at the restaurant. So that was it. Long behold

1017
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: and I wrap it up long behold. After he's out,

1018
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: some other dude come in and giving me I'm talking

1019
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: about some me mugging, so like, hey, what's up, you know?

1020
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: And he's like he was part of the group, And

1021
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: I said, you looking for your boy? I said, yeah,

1022
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: he's not in here, and we met him getting a

1023
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: conversation and I'm like, do you wanna do you want

1024
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: to eat here? Do you want to leave? And I'm like, listen,

1025
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to go this route, but bro, we

1026
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: sure gotta have arter, we should go have a structure.

1027
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: Your boy was fouled, the other dude removed him, Thank

1028
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: God for that. But we ain't trying to lenker this

1029
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: own and they end up lieving. Nothing became of it.

1030
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I never had to call for units or nothing like that.

1031
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: But my point is, just think if that slap of

1032
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: my hand would have turned into me and him scuffling,

1033
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: and me and him fighting and then them jumping in

1034
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: and weapons draw for what. This is the week of

1035
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: George Floyd's funeral in Houston for what. So I don't

1036
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: know if that. I'm sure I'm way off on a tangent,

1037
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: But does that make sense what I'm saying It does

1038
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: make sense, and and and if more officers had your

1039
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: type of mentality, especially white police off and by the way,

1040
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: let me say this right now, I believe, I believe

1041
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: that white police officers should not police in the United

1042
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: States South America because they're too bias. Now I'm serious

1043
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: that they're a one is doing all these killing the

1044
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: white right. The white police officers are the wars doing

1045
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: all these killing, So they should be white police. These

1046
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: white police officers should be profiled just like they profiled

1047
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: Middle Easterners and thinking everybody gonna blow up something. Totally

1048
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: vet them to make sure that they ain't got it

1049
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Speaker 1: in them. You know, they really need to be checked hard.

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Speaker 1: I know we gotta go, but I got I gotta

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Speaker 1: I got a couple I got a couple more questions.

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Speaker 1: I really want to ask you real quick. I need

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Speaker 1: to first of all, get your thoughts on the Young

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00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: Thug and Ghana situation where they've they've been brought up

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Speaker 1: on charges. What's your thought about these rappers? Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: just just with Young Thug and Rico UM and Young

1057
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: Thug and UH and Ghana was brought up on RICO

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Speaker 1: charges along with several other members of their uh their

1059
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: camp okay, and then us other rappers around the country

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Speaker 1: that have been brought up on RICO charges because they're

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00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: closely affiliated to the streets and so whereas they may

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00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: not even have anything to do with it, but they're

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00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: being accused because they're hanging out with these guys. They're

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00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: kicking it with these guys, and these guys are being

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Speaker 1: accused of committing crimes they're getting connected to the RICO Act. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, what are your thoughts to that in the

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Speaker 1: way that law enforcement uses to not be the case

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Speaker 1: only simply because, I mean, you can't control who you

1069
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: grew up with. You can't control family members if you've

1070
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Speaker 1: got them doing whatever. Again, I'm not one. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna sit and tell y'all I'm down with people doing

1072
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: file stuff. I'm not. I just told you I'm walk

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00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: to straight lines best you can. However, I don't want

1074
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: to sit up here and just brought stroke everybody because

1075
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: of your affiliation with whomever. So just because you know

1076
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: somebody or do whatever, don't mean you are also doing

1077
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: the same dirt. So that's it's not good at what

1078
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: they're actually accusing young thug of O can a hit

1079
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: goddamn different. That's that's a little different now that they're

1080
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: they're accusing me. I don't know. I don't know if

1081
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: they have any proof of that, but that's what they're

1082
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: they're saying. Uh, before we let you go, man, what

1083
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: what is it that we can do, society, the people,

1084
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: the community can do to to forge a better relationship

1085
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: with law enforcement. What we can do the forge better

1086
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: relationship with law specifically black people. We got got you.

1087
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: So what we can do is, first of all, it's

1088
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: from the officer's point of view and our point of view.

1089
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: Stop being adversario with each other. Officers got to stop

1090
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: being oh a long come to his neighborhood, plice this

1091
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: way and think I'm gonna do this, And individuals gotta understand, Look,

1092
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: you can't. Every officer is not gonna be treat you

1093
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: the same way that last officers treated you. And see

1094
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: that goes back to the whole thing about hey, you're

1095
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: ast me back there. I gotta do right by you.

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Speaker 1: And it's not personally. I keep saying, it's not personal.

1097
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: You did a crime. I restus you. You went to jail,

1098
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: came suspected of a crime. Suspect the cry right right, right,

1099
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: right right, start the crime. So then let the courses

1100
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Speaker 1: and play it out. Good point, good clarification, suspect the crime.

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: I do my deal, Let courses and play it out.

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Speaker 1: You've come back out. You ain't doing no crime or

1103
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: suspect doing a crime. We ain't got no issue. So

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00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: the whole thing is we black people, let's start being

1105
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: accountable for our actions, just like these also need be

1106
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: accountable for actions, meaning we don't everything can't be oh

1107
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: because whatever, Let's do the right thing. As best we can,

1108
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: not like I said I can. I'm sure you got

1109
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: fourteen stories. You got eighteen stories about somebody also doing

1110
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: you wrong. I just told you one deal earlier about

1111
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm an also getting done wrong by an also. But

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Speaker 1: the point is we need to have a sense of

1113
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: community back to friends of Chris Wolson, sense of community,

1114
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: sense of Hey, we gotta look out for ourselves. And

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Speaker 1: you know the Panthers back in the day, what was

1116
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: that all about. That was about community policing ourselves, protecting

1117
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Speaker 1: our own community because law enforcement Open California wasn't doing that.

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Speaker 1: So I said, we're doing it ourselves, you know, Guardian

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Speaker 1: angels to some regards up in New York and every

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. So we have to be accountable for our

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: own actions, look out for each other. Don't let so

1122
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: and so who you know, be messing lesson kids make it.

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Speaker 1: He can't make it, she can't make it. That's not cool.

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Speaker 1: You got kid, I gottet. Nobody wants who who wants

1125
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Speaker 1: their child lesson? Nobody who wants their Catholytic converter stolen?

1126
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: No one who wants there? Uh you cut me off

1127
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: in traffic on shoot that you now no one wants that.

1128
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Speaker 1: So we just have to if you're asking, and you

1129
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: and you are, we have to rewrite d program and

1130
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: reprogram ourselves to have a love for one another and

1131
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: overlook a lot of transgressions that we normally would be

1132
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Speaker 1: fighting on and shooting on and personal on and let

1133
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Speaker 1: it ride and look step back and look at the

1134
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: big picture. And the big picture is we need to

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Speaker 1: be fully give ourselves every chance to be that blade

1136
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: of grass, that fertile field, not that blade of grass

1137
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 1: growing between those cracks and the concrete be that create

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Speaker 1: that setting where we all can grow up and had

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Speaker 1: this rich field of grass, a bunch of blades together

1140
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Speaker 1: a field, not singular blade, singler blade, single blade, a

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: community of blades making a field of rich uh grass

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Speaker 1: that's is strong and focused on uplift. I hope they

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Speaker 1: answers the question. That answers the question man, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's a unity and and your and your unity community

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: and your former point which is treat people like you

1146
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: want to be treated. Man. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show any time, Sergeant came to card no more time.

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Speaker 1: This episode was produced by a King and brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the Black Effect. Podcast Network and heart Radio