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Speaker 2: Oh a lot, Oh my god. All right, it's Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to break down. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of moving parts. Today. We got Aaron Rodgers has become

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan with the Wizards, among other things. I want

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Speaker 2: to start with a game. I thought it was the

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Speaker 2: lack of the year, San Francisco by a touchdown over Tampa.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco beats Tampa twenty three to twenty. At one point,

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Speaker 2: I was rooting for Baker Mayfield. He was playing so

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Speaker 2: hard they're grabbing his face. I mean, he the kid

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Speaker 2: was just and the Niners special teams are so bad.

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Speaker 2: I think it cost him total sixteen points today I

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Speaker 2: could be missing and Brock Purtty had a wonderful last drive.

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Speaker 2: But this game wasn't close. I was just looking at

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Speaker 2: total yards. San Francisco had double average, the almost double

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Speaker 2: per yards per play. Brock Purty was twenty five to

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Speaker 2: thirty six, three hundred and fifty three yards two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: The fact it was close to me is an indictment

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Speaker 2: on Shanahan. These special teams now are in the running

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Speaker 2: for the worst in the league. And you're a you

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Speaker 2: know the Niners as well as anybody. What did you

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Speaker 2: make of that mess?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's an overall embarrassment. And you

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Speaker 1: know Deebo gets into it with a long snapper when

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Speaker 1: he just tells the guys to lock in, like I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: the long snapper and the kicker are like that. The uh.

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Speaker 1: To me, they are in theory should be the most irrelevant,

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Speaker 1: never should be heard of or guy in the company.

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Speaker 1: And yet with the forty nine Ers, their special teams

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Speaker 1: unit always somehow overshadows the offense and the defense. And

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Speaker 1: to me, it's on the head coach, like he does

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Speaker 1: not care about special teams, which most people don't. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go to the driving range, usually don't

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Speaker 1: one ever does. Just like every head think about McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: Lafleur and Kyle, the three top young offensive guys, all

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Speaker 1: their special teams usually are pretty bad. Yeah, why because

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Speaker 1: they do not care? Who are the two old guys

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Speaker 1: Andy and Belichick. What did they always take really seriously

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Speaker 1: special teams because in this this is not college where

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Speaker 1: if your team is so good, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: All these games, the majority of them unless you're the Jets,

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Speaker 1: are close and today to miss the field goals. If

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Speaker 1: the guy's not healthy, he rolls his ankle, he can't

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Speaker 1: be out there kicking field goals. Colin, Now, I understand

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Speaker 1: cut him, but like, that's a pretty big injury for

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Speaker 1: a kicker. Yeah, high ankle sprain. I clearly he was

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Speaker 1: not ready. It wasn't even close. They got very lucky

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Speaker 1: think there's a coach, Liam Cohen, the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs were both the Broncos and the Niners

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Speaker 1: a day coming off that Monday night game. Both teams

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Speaker 3: That both would really be flat. The Chiefs kind of

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Speaker 3: were what we expected. Oh yeah, the Bucks were fighting

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Speaker 3: their ass off. I mean, how well Baker's played. He's

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Speaker 3: dramatically better than he was last year, and he was

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Speaker 3: who does not care. It'd be like it'd be like

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Speaker 3: if we had audio issues right all over the volume, Like.

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Speaker 1: Eventually it's like, wouldn't that be kind of on you? Like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I also thought about something because brock Prudy in the

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Speaker 2: really well down the stretch. But Ricky Piersall had a

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Speaker 2: game today and my takeaway was, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: great he'll be, but with all the I mean, George

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Speaker 2: Kittle that play in the back of the end zone, God,

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Speaker 2: George is great.

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Speaker 1: How has he been this cela every week for them?

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Speaker 2: I mean he's like old Gronk Whenever you doubt him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Travis Kelsey, same thing. But the Brandon Ayuk

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Speaker 2: Kittle's still an elite tight end. Christian McCaffrey back. You know,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't great today. I just thought they averaged six

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Speaker 2: yards per play. How it's close is remark And when

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Speaker 2: I would tell you.

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Speaker 1: Penalty penalties took. I mean they had so many defensive penalties,

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Speaker 1: hands of the face, face mass that were just killers.

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Speaker 1: Collin on third down that gave them life.

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Speaker 2: It's I know Kyle Shamahan is a good coach, but

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Speaker 2: I do feel like this organization leaks a lot of

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Speaker 2: they mostly went. I mean, wasn't this the first time

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Speaker 2: they'd won back to back games all season?

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Speaker 1: I mean it has to be. I mean, they're five

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Speaker 1: team that is running on fumes, that just played in

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Speaker 1: an overtime game on the road on Monday night. Whose

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Speaker 1: they have no wide receivers, and for this game to

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Speaker 1: be close, it was really pretty embarrassing, you know. And

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Speaker 1: this is a game that I would say the last

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Speaker 1: three years, coming off of bye, the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: getting healthy. I think they win by twenty plus points.

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Speaker 1: I mean I expected this to be like thirty five

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Speaker 1: kicker situation, I think it was very reflective the kicker

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Speaker 1: and then the long snapper getting in with Debos like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: Debos made huge plays in this game. Let's just keep

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Speaker 1: like you're not in the position, be over there yapping

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Speaker 1: around like you are losing this team games right now,

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Speaker 1: or putting them in position. Because if they would have

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Speaker 1: lost today with Arizona, I mean just absolutely mauling, they

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Speaker 1: would have been in major trouble. Right, they would have

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Speaker 1: been four and five. You have the Cardinals now at

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Speaker 1: six and four, who look like, I don't know, playing

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Speaker 1: as well as top five team in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: terms of the way they're playing today.

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Speaker 2: Right, and the Rams are now healthy.

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Speaker 1: Are getting healthy. Yeah, So it would have this, This

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Speaker 1: was must win for the forty nine ers. They get

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Speaker 1: Seattle next week, who they've owned, but they do not

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Speaker 1: feel anywhere near the team that was a legit Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl threat. These last years they got issues. And it's

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Speaker 1: not Kittle, and it's not you know, Party's playing well.

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Speaker 1: It's not Trent Williams. It's all these weird bosses playing well.

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Speaker 1: Fred's playing well. But for some reason, they dominate teams

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Speaker 1: and you look up, You're like, it's thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 1: What the hell's going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers are incredible. Okay, Steelers beat Washington twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. So I went today and I said, and

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Speaker 2: I watched Russell. So the Steelers are three and zero

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Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson averaging about thirty a game. It's the

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Speaker 2: first time in several years they have the offense moving.

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Speaker 2: And I went back and I took Russell Wilson with

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Speaker 2: Pete Carolyn, Seattle, Russell Wilson the one year with Sean Payton,

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Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson with Mike Tomlin, the three times he's

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Speaker 2: had competent coaches, and you know what he gives you.

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Speaker 2: He moves sixty four percent completion percentage a passer rating

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Speaker 2: over one hundred. He doesn't miss any starts. He's not

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh he has brought it's a little big Ben. He's

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Speaker 2: a totally different player. He's brought the deep ball back

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Speaker 2: to the Steelers. So now you have veteran just say

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Speaker 2: it out loud, veteran coach. Great defense, tough at home,

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Speaker 2: solid run game, good deep ball offense. That's pretty good

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Speaker 2: football team. That's pretty good team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, that stat that they show that they

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Speaker 1: were averaging twenty points with fields and their averaging over

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty much And what do they get a

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Speaker 1: game winning touchdown on the deep ball throw to Mike Williams? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do what are their three best wide receivers now

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Speaker 1: adding Mike Williams with pickens and their tight end big guys,

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Speaker 1: throw them up, give them fifty to fifty balls, because

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Speaker 1: they're not fifty to fifty balls with those guys right there,

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Speaker 1: seventy five to twenty five balls with those guys. So

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Speaker 1: I thought at times a day like this where you

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Speaker 1: gotta be careful about writing your takes down at halftime,

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Speaker 1: Like the gap Jayden looked way better. Their offense was rolling.

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Speaker 1: But Russell there is something to be said. I think

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Speaker 1: he can be kind of corny and kind of just

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Speaker 1: at times. But he is very steady Eddy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't go into the tank when it looks just

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Speaker 1: looked off early. And the Fields he also can make

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Speaker 1: the throw that that lob touch throw that won them

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Speaker 1: Trubisky forever. You know, Fields is a more talented Trubisky,

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Speaker 1: but cannot make that layered kind of lollipop throw. And

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Speaker 1: at this point in time, that is Russell's go to throw.

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Speaker 1: And even back when he was better, Win did his

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Speaker 1: game like when he got DK metcalf. So you give

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Speaker 1: him these big targets. Sutton like they had some plays

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Speaker 1: because I thought I was thoroughly impressed with Washington. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a great win, and then Russell

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Speaker 2: this weekend's tastiest matchup, Sunday Night food Ball, brought to

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Speaker 1: it just feels like they're all over the map. I

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Speaker 1: don't even put it on them, I put it on

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Speaker 1: the organization. You think sauce Gardner would look like that

431
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Speaker 1: if he was playing for Andy Reid, No chance. But

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Speaker 1: that's what happens when you put talented players in dysfunctional places.

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Speaker 1: They usually fall apart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's.

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Speaker 1: The Jets stick calling. I mean, they are bad. They

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Speaker 1: got We haven't talked since Thursday night. Game. Two of

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Speaker 1: their touchdowns came with Garrett Wilson. He didn't use his

438
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Speaker 1: left arm. I mean that's pretty big outlier, right, I

439
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Speaker 1: mean that they easily could have lost that game if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't for one of the greatest catches we've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, And the question becomes, does Aaron come back?

442
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Speaker 2: It's when when Brett Farv went to the Jets, he

443
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Speaker 2: had a lot left in the tank. He went on

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Speaker 2: to Minnesota after that and had a couple of huge years.

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Speaker 2: Aaron's done. He just there's just nothing there and he

446
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Speaker 2: never he never had the gamesmanship or sort of the

447
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Speaker 2: the fox whole quality of Brett Farv. Anyway, when you

448
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Speaker 2: get to be an older radio host, an older quarterback,

449
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Speaker 2: or an older CEO, you'll have diminishing skills, You'll have

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Speaker 2: less energy. What you want to do is be able

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Speaker 2: to kind of galvanize the group, rally people around you

452
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Speaker 2: because you can't put in eighty hours a week. You

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Speaker 2: can put in sixty five, but you have to rely

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Speaker 2: on people. I've always said, Aaron's not a galvanizer. He's

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Speaker 2: not a foxhole guy. He's a bit more of a

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Speaker 2: bayler than a baller. He's a guy that if that's

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Speaker 2: why I has so few career come from behind wins.

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Speaker 2: If you go back to twenty twenty two, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: has I think fifteen, Aaron has six, you know, and

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Speaker 2: they're both old guys coming off of surgery. Both have

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Speaker 2: had two teams. Cousins isn't cool, so you don't think

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Speaker 2: he's a great come from behind quarterback. He's outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Aaron's not.

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Speaker 2: He's living. You know, he's the band now touring and

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Speaker 2: I don't feel there's a good I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about another game. Let's go back

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Speaker 2: to an interesting game. Kansas City beats Denver sixteen to fourteen,

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Speaker 2: and I just i wrote what Kansas City has become

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Speaker 2: is a great moments team. Two for two on fourth down,

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Speaker 2: block to kick, great on third down, only three penalties.

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Speaker 2: They're still trying to figure out what the hell they

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Speaker 2: are a little bit offensively like they don't you know,

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Speaker 2: they know.

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Speaker 1: They're this Colin is just ugly. Just keep us in

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Speaker 1: the game and we'll just try to win it with

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Speaker 1: five minutes left.

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Speaker 2: But when you have the best coach, the best quarterback,

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Speaker 2: arguably the best defense, the best third down offense, that's enough.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this about two weeks ago. About

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Speaker 2: every six years, I went back and looked at it.

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Speaker 2: But every six to seven years a great team wins

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. But mostly it's a really good team

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Speaker 2: with no huge hole that coaches can pick on you.

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Speaker 2: In a two week laft for the Super Bowl, when

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Speaker 2: Mahomes didn't have both tackles, he gets routed. If he

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Speaker 2: had one, it would have been a game. Kansas City

516
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Speaker 2: is not terrible at anything. They're beat up. They're trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out their receiving corps. But because Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: so good and Andy Reid is so clever, it's functional.

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Speaker 2: It makes plays when you have to. I thought this

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Speaker 2: was the game. This was the game I did not

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Speaker 2: pick in Blazing five. It was my last pick. I

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Speaker 2: thought Denver had a chance to win today. Same but

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Speaker 2: the takeaway I had beyond Kansas City doing that Bonnicks

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Speaker 2: That final drive thirteen plays a little bit like brock Purty.

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Speaker 2: You're like, I mean he had eight different receivers today,

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Speaker 2: twenty two to thirty, two hundred and forty five yards,

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Speaker 2: a couple of touchdowns, great final drive. I think all

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Speaker 2: those college starts, like, I think he may have a

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Speaker 2: lower ceiling. But I think Denver is eight five drafted

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Speaker 2: players away and maybe a free agent signing from being

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Speaker 2: a pain in the ass to people. I think I

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Speaker 2: think Denver's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this game was way more about Denver

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Speaker 1: than Kansas City. I mean, Kansas City just does this

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Speaker 1: every week. They're going to go fift you know, fifteen

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Speaker 1: and two or sixteen and one, and everyone's going to go.

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Speaker 1: How the hell they do it? Well they do it

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Speaker 1: because like you said, it's the organizational competitive character that

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Speaker 1: they're no how their experience. I mean, they're missing they

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Speaker 1: the best receiver who towards ACL they're starting running back

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Speaker 1: like Kareem Hunt's been an awesome story. There's a big

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Speaker 1: drop off between the Taco and him, huge, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get him back hopefully in December. It's a broken leg,

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Speaker 1: so you know that that'll be a big boost for

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Speaker 1: them because they're gonna win like this right twenty one

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Speaker 1: to seventeen twenty. But to me, Denver went in there

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Speaker 1: as they should have short week, Kansas City, a little, gas,

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Speaker 1: a little and they came in ready to win and

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks hit sudden on the on the beautiful touchdown pass.

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Speaker 1: You're like, there's gonna be the game. I thought, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's finally the Chiefs just lose twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to fifteen or something, and they just find a way

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Speaker 1: because defensively they're good. Obviously the home crowd is pretty special.

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Speaker 1: But I think Denver this was probably one of their

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Speaker 1: more impressive weeks of the year, even counting their wins,

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Speaker 1: just because like, well, off to see how it breaks

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Speaker 1: out like that. That's seven seed. When you look like,

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Speaker 1: obviously the Jets are done, Cults are in major trouble.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the AFC playoff, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals are screwed. You basically have the Steelers and Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know, one team's gonna win division. One team's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in. Steelers charge the Chiefs and the Chargers are in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I think Denver could get the seven seed.

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Speaker 2: Colin so do I I think the top is very

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Speaker 2: good Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City, and then I think the

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Speaker 2: wild card feels like do.

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Speaker 1: You throw Pittsburgh in there too? Though I would do.

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Speaker 2: I think let's say Pittsburgh become.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out when they play each other this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Baltimore at their best is better than Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: at their best.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 2: So I think this the wild card teams and they

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Speaker 2: don't feel quite as good. Chargers not a ton of

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Speaker 2: juice offensively, but a good team Denver rookie quarterback and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: You have some limitations, I think on you know, I

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Speaker 2: think Russell from the pocket, there's limitations if he was

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Speaker 2: trailing in a game, and he put big heat on him.

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Speaker 2: But I will say with Denver, I mean Mahomes last

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Speaker 2: two games, no picks, first seven games, nine picks. So

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Speaker 2: what Kansas City has basically done, They've gotten those ugly

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Speaker 2: Remember the start of the year were like Jesus, Mahomes

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Speaker 2: has like one or two just horrible pick. They've gotten

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Speaker 2: out of that space. The win for Kansas City is

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Speaker 2: harder than you think because of the short week. But

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Speaker 2: I think to your point, I think you looked at

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton and bow Nicks and I think we could

589
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Speaker 2: both say he found his Drew Brees. He found his guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's as good as him, but

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Speaker 2: he found his guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean he's he's definitely made strides. Because

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Speaker 1: it was early. I think I didn't put as much

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Speaker 1: stock into some of the early games in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter when he played well, because it's like I don't

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Speaker 1: the context of that the defense gave up. But I

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Speaker 1: do think the last couple of weeks you feel a

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Speaker 1: lot better about it. And let's face it, like there

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Speaker 1: are some rookie quarterbacks playing and obviously Jayden and Daniels,

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Speaker 1: it couldn't have gotten much better. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: great Like, I mean, we saw one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: rookie seasons of all time last year with CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: I would put Jayden Daniels right there, toe to toe

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Speaker 1: of like, geez, it can't be this good, can it.

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Speaker 1: And then you have like Drake May who's on a

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Speaker 1: team that's so shitty. We don't but you're watching me

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Speaker 1: go there's something there. Oh yeah, I would take that guy.

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Speaker 1: And then you watch bo who doesn't have Drake's physical characteristics,

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Speaker 1: who's not as talented. Why one guy goes three the

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Speaker 1: other guy most people thought was overdrafted. But you go

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Speaker 1: with this coach with this infrastructure, their defense. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing. Like if Sean Payton's has a

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Speaker 1: defense as he did in New Orleans with Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: they were elite, right, So if you just give it defense,

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Speaker 1: like he'll figure out the offense. Most teams are not

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Speaker 1: Kansas City to me, I think they get to nine

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Speaker 1: wins and they would be the seventh seed. Now the

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Speaker 1: difference though, is, you know, depending on who they play. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you're the seven seed, you're playing the two seeds,

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Speaker 1: So you're playing Baltimore or Buffalo, Like, no one's betting

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Speaker 1: on Denver. I would say, no one's gonna want to

622
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Speaker 1: see the Chargers as the sixth seeds. Like if you're

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Pittsburgh, that will be a team that like, wait,

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Speaker 1: they're a five point underdog, like who I think Harball

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Speaker 1: would be a team that people would believe in. Or Denver,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. One and done team in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs probably like the Commanders, and you tip your

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Speaker 1: hat to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at their schedule, John Denver now

630
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Speaker 2: hosts the Falcons Dome team cold Weather, then they get

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Speaker 2: they face the Raiders, then they face the Browns at home,

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Speaker 2: then they get the Colts at home, and then they

633
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Speaker 2: go to the Chargers. I think they match up. It's

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Speaker 2: very close. So to your point, here is the you know,

635
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Speaker 2: preseason we're like, oh, you know, you look at some

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Speaker 2: of these teams. Then the Broncos end with the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, they host the Chiefs in the

638
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Speaker 2: last week eighteen, Kansas City could be resting guys. At

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Speaker 2: that point, they could be just.

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Speaker 1: Why and I'm looking at it right now. Technically at

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Speaker 1: five and five, they are in the seventh spot. Trailed

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Speaker 1: by Indianapolis, who, let's face it, I don't blame them.

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Speaker 1: I think they did the right thing. But the Flacco

644
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Richards things all out of whack. Now. Flacco looks terrible, terrible,

645
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Speaker 1: and the Bengals, who have this quarterback who's can't play

646
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Speaker 1: any better, and Jamar Chase, who looks like Jerry Rice

647
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Speaker 1: in his prime, cannot win games. So you know, you

648
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Speaker 1: don't feel very and just because of the division they're in,

649
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Speaker 1: it's just a lot harder when you got to play

650
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in Baltimore right then, they don't get the Raiders

651
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Speaker 1: even Cleveland now throwing in Jamis as a real team

652
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Speaker 1: with real players. I would much rather play the Raiders

653
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Speaker 1: in the Browns. So I like that. That was a

654
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: pretty devastating loss for the Bengals the other night. And

655
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Speaker 1: that could be the difference why Denver gets the seventh

656
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Speaker 1: seed and the Bengals end up eight to nine. I mean,

657
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Speaker 1: it could just be the different one teams nine and eight,

658
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: the other team's eight, and it's that big of a difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Denver schedule right now looks very formidable. Okay,

660
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Speaker 2: let's talk a game that wasn't nearly as captivating, but

661
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: it made a statement. New England nineteen Chicago three twenty

662
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: one straight drives for the Bears, without a touchdown, third

663
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: straight game, no offensive identity, Caleb under fifty four percent

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Speaker 2: completion rate, third straight game. He's lost one for fourteen

665
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Speaker 2: on third down. Pitiful at Drake May again, seven different targets.

666
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Speaker 2: They didn't ask him to do much. You know, they

667
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Speaker 2: averaged five and a half yards of play with with

668
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Speaker 2: without you know, much to work with. But I think

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Speaker 2: the story here is, and I've said this, poorly coached teams.

670
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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley last year start the year. Remember that, Brandon,

671
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Speaker 2: I think it was last year. They start, They almost

672
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Speaker 2: beat Miami to start to wild crazy game, and then

673
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Speaker 2: about week six you're like, man, they're not well coached.

674
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Speaker 2: And then by like week twelve, the players have quit.

675
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Speaker 2: A poorly run business can fool people three or four

676
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Speaker 2: five weeks. I mean that Tennessee win. I mean they

677
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: were out played by the Titans at home in week one.

678
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 2: It was a Will Levis mistake or that's an l

679
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Speaker 2: I think what you look at this team now is

680
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Speaker 2: you look at a poorly coach team. There's a lack

681
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Speaker 2: of belief. There's absolutely no identity. Offensively, they average two

682
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: point four yards of play. Ryan Poles said last week,

683
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: we're not making coaching changes. This is not Jacksonville. Chicago

684
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Speaker 2: is a loud media. Do you fire Matt Eberflus during

685
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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a decent chance by the

687
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Speaker 1: time you know, we wake up or before lunch on Monday,

688
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: he's relieved of his duties. You can't go back to

689
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: back games like they have just had when they were

690
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: a play away from looking like is this team about

691
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: to win ten or eleven games? And it now feels

692
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: like if I told you they win one more game

693
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. We've talked about their schedule.

694
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: They're in shambles. They're coaching staff's in embarrassment right now,

695
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Speaker 1: and it's going to get absolutely destroyed by every fan,

696
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. But I also think that, like Ryan Poles,

697
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: bears responsibility. He drafted Roma Dunza, who we all like.

698
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is pitiful and there were countless offensive

699
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Speaker 1: linemen on the board at pick nine that would have

700
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Who's Jim Harbaugh take? He takes an offensive lineman where

701
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like take a receiver. He's like, no, who would

702
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid have taken in that spot? He would have

703
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: taken a guard or a tackle because you have to

704
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Speaker 1: protect that guy. And they took a wide receiver when

705
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: they already got multiple wide receivers. And let's face it,

706
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: they got a problem on their hands because Dj Moore,

707
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: who for like a five straight year stretch, Everyone in

708
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: the NFL is like, listen, I don't know this guy.

709
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what quarterback he's playing with. This guy's a stud.

710
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: People liked him, who's high character. He does not like

711
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Caleb like they have an issue, that they have an issue,

712
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: and they just extended him. Now obviously it's not like

713
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: if you have to pick one or the other. They

714
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: have no choice. They're all in on Caleb Williams. But

715
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Speaker 1: that is a problem for them. And I saw this

716
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Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. And I'm not comparing Caleb

717
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: to Trey Lance. He's obviously much better player. But they

718
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: never believed in Trey Lance, not the coaching staff, not

719
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: the front office, the players. Why they wanted Jimmy, Why

720
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Speaker 1: they had no problem going to Purdy because they see

721
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Speaker 1: every day in practice. I think we were talking before

722
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: you jumped on about like I think Nick Wright had

723
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: a take about like just go with Trey Lance right now,

724
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: because maybe you get something and best case he just

725
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: sucks and you lose. You know why you can't do

726
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: that because Micah Parsons and Ceedee Lamb would be like,

727
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? Right? Because they see

728
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: practice and I think you have this Caleb William situation.

729
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to point to Shane Waldron, who actually I

730
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: always kind of liked, but clearly this is not going

731
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 1: well for him, and eber flus Over said is gonna

732
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: get fired. But there are plays to be made for

733
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Speaker 1: Caleb and he doesn't look remotely close. Like even if

734
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Speaker 1: you are a Caleb supporter, which I with you, like

735
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: most people, I would have drafted them number one overall.

736
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Speaker 1: But like the draft happened. Now we're ten games in.

737
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Speaker 1: There are plays. It's not all his fault, but I

738
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Speaker 1: think we also have to acknowledge like Drake May plays

739
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Speaker 1: in an organization that's in Tron. His the former head

740
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: coach who's one of the most legendary sports figures of

741
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: all times, ripping drowed mail. Like three weeks ago, everyone's

742
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: ripping the owner the coaching staff's more than questionable. There's

743
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: not that much talent. You watch Drake mayor're like, God,

744
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: he was the best quarterback by a wide margin on

745
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: the field, no question. And the other thing Colin is like,

746
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: let's use Jared Goff as an example. Remember that rookie season.

747
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Speaker 1: It felt like is this guy, this guy even an

748
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: NFL player? But the one thing you knew Jared Goff

749
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Speaker 1: could do in college was like he was a pocket quarterback.

750
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Speaker 1: So he's never gonna have to run. He's a pocket.

751
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: If you could protect him, he could play in the pocket.

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00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: There is just a question with Caleb like can he

753
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: play within the pocket? That was a question coming out,

754
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: like it's not something he's comfortable doing. You don't just

755
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: get to freelance all the time in the NFL, so

756
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: it's like one, two three, get rid of the ball now.

757
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: Our receivers not getting open all the time. Obviously some plays,

758
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Speaker 1: But I do think there's a legit question of like

759
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Speaker 1: what offense to make this guy successful? Like I watched

760
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Drake may It's like, I think that guy could fit

761
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Speaker 1: in a lot of offenses. Yeah, you know, I thought Jayden

762
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: was like I think he's gonna have to play in

763
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Speaker 1: like mor of a Lamar style. I'm watching like, well,

764
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Speaker 1: what Lamar is now? What Lamar was when he was

765
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: really young? Yeah, the version now? And you watch Jayden

766
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: right now, it's like this guy's awesome in the pocket.

767
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Speaker 1: So I just think the question marks on Caleb that

768
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: you look at this job like this sab like Mike Vrabel, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for Caleb to throw forty touchdowns anymore.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's not his game. Let's just kind of go

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Speaker 1: what Pete Carroll did in thirteen and fourteen, like, Hey,

772
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Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball, We're gonna have a tough defense.

773
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Speaker 1: You're gonna play within my system. That's what We're taking

774
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Speaker 1: the cooking utensils away from your hands.

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Speaker 2: That's what Philadelphia has done with Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts

776
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: today is throwing twenty four times and it's very effective.

777
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: He throws a good deep ball. They're not letting Jalen Hurts.

778
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Speaker 2: And by the way, outside of a Mahomes or a

779
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I don't want my guys throwing forty two times.

780
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: I don't want my offensive lineman backing up forty two

781
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: I want him going forward forty two times. It's interesting because.

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Speaker 1: Jalen's a little less hrky jerky, though Caleb, I think

783
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Speaker 1: it's a little shorter. I think Jalen's a better runner,

784
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Speaker 1: but little a little more quick twitch, and to me,

785
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: his herky jerkiness throws everything off. And part of it's young.

786
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Speaker 1: He's kind of seeing ghosts, but it's just I don't

787
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Speaker 1: know if we've seen something this like this goes back

788
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: to like Sam Darnold jets like this is a train

789
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Speaker 1: Wrecklin offensively well.

790
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Speaker 2: When he was coming out. I talked to every scout

791
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: I could, and they all had the same concern. There

792
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: were two concerns. Number one was accuracy. People said, I

793
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: think we could clean it up, but he gets really

794
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Speaker 2: erratic every game with USC. They're like, he gets real

795
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Speaker 2: streaky and then he just has, you know, a Notre

796
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Speaker 2: Dame game where it's just nothing works, you know, like

797
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Speaker 2: for an entire half. The second thing they said is,

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Speaker 2: you know, guys said, didn't love the fingernails, didn't love

799
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Speaker 2: jumping into the crowd with mom. Really emotional. Doesn't mean

800
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Speaker 2: he's a bad kid, but he's really emotional and really

801
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: emotional players tend to be high and low, especially when

802
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: they're young. So you're gonna have to deal with a

803
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Speaker 2: very emotional kid with some accuracy issues. And it kind

804
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: of goes back to my say it out loud, those

805
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: aren't great highly emotional player accuracy issues. You know, bo

806
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Speaker 2: Nix is very stoic. Accuracy is not an issue. It

807
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Speaker 2: just sounds better.

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Speaker 1: So it's Russell's defining characteristic. How just kind of just

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Speaker 1: you know, fake optimistic. It feels like he's but it works.

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Speaker 2: It works for him, and I think so. I think

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Speaker 2: with Caleb he can be a bit moody. I remember

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Speaker 2: the game at USC It was the I think it

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Speaker 2: was year one with they went to Corvallis. He had

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Speaker 2: a terrible first half. He got really moody on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: I think they came back to win that game, but

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Speaker 2: it was the first time I thought, yeah, dude, you're

817
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Speaker 2: on TV. This is a big TV game, Come on,

818
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Speaker 2: get it together. And I think that was really I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like he goes in the shell more now. He

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Speaker 1: we got to work together and figure some stuff out.

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Speaker 1: You can't isolate in this position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that was a J. Cutler issue.

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Speaker 2: By the way, in Chicago, Culor was a guy that

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852
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Speaker 2: Lance came in third quarter. This was a really predictable blowout.

853
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: I watched Caroline and the Giants to start the day.

854
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: I believe what I'm going to say is true that

855
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: Dallas is the worst team in the NFL right now.

856
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: I really believe that. I think they're the worst team

857
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL because at least the Giants have Daniel

858
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: Jones and Brian Dable. They could engineer a good drive.

859
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys have two excellent players, Micah Parsons

860
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: and Ceedee Lamb. And I think Zach Martin was great.

861
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Now he's you know, he's a good player. I'll go

862
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: back to something I said before the season. If I

863
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: can identify this, how could the Cowboys not. It is

864
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: the worst running back room in the league. It is

865
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: maybe the thinnest wide receiver room in the league. The

866
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: offensive line is in a rebuild, dak is hurt again,

867
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: and their defensive players a couple of my like tend

868
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: to be. It feels to me a little overhyped and

869
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: a tad injury prone. I could spend a lot of

870
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: time on Dallas. But on the other side, I looked

871
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: at Philadelphia and I thought, I'm not a Sirianni fan,

872
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: but they are playing formula football with that offense, and

873
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: that formula with those players feels like it's working to me.

874
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: That's why I picked him at the beginning of the

875
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: year to win the division, just because the talent on

876
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: the roster is just immense and the quarterback does not

877
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: need to be what Joe Burrow's doing right now. They

878
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: adding Saquon Barkley, who I would say is I mean

879
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: him and Derrick Henry have been two of the great

880
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: chief acquisitions in like the history of the NFL. But

881
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: one thing that they look a lot better on, and

882
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: this is why you pay a guy five million dollars.

883
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: There was a scheme. I don't want to say disagreement,

884
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: but it was just different from the players. They had

885
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: to what VIC usually likes. So there is gonna be

886
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: some time that it takes to get things figured out. Well,

887
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: what's happening over the last month. Jalen Carter, the premium

888
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: player in which they draft, has played a lot better.

889
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm watching today, na Kobe Dean making plays all over

890
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: the place. Nolan Smith has come on. They have just

891
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: some of these young players have just slowly made more

892
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: plays the season goes on. Why Vick fanjo knows what

893
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: he's doing now. He's an intense a lot different than

894
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: what they had last year with the Patricia Deci situation.

895
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: But they and listen, obviously they're playing the Cowboys today.

896
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: But I would just say over the last month they

897
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: have looked like a much more capable defense. Yeah, early

898
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: on in the season, it was like, this is not possible.

899
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: That's my question mark with Baltimore. You can't play that

900
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: bad a defense and wins Bowl. It's not possible. I

901
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: can't do it, especially in the conference in there in

902
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: playing Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and probably justin Herbert

903
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: as well. But you watch the Eagles. If their defense

904
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: is just solid when healthy AJ Brown, Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard,

905
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, with Jalen passing and running ability, it just

906
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: doesn't get any better in the NFL.

907
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Does Philadelphia? I watched them today as I was kind

908
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: of disappointed in San Francisco. I think Philadelphia has the

909
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: best roster in the league.

910
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: I think offensively, definitely. I think offensively definitely. I think

911
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: defensively they have players so young.

912
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: Some of their best players are young.

913
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think offensively, when Jalen's playing like he has

914
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: the last month, there's no you can't even compare. And

915
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: when the left tackle is healthy, their offensive line is excellent.

916
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

917
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: They have a top I don't know, two or three

918
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, they have a quarterback who's played like

919
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: a top six to seven guy all season long. They

920
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: have a high end tight end. They have elite two

921
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers, So listen. I know Kellen Moore takes a

922
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of shit. I followed his career since he was

923
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: a player. I think he's a pretty bright guy. Yeah,

924
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he was pretty good for the Cowboys.

925
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Nipick them all we want. I do think when you

926
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: watch Dallas, you know NBA coaches talk about this a lot,

927
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: like when you play a team and their star player

928
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: goes down, like the day before you play him, your

929
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: team just like, oh, Giannis is out, you don't take

930
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: him serious. All of a sudden you lose. Like I

931
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: thought that first half was the Eagles, Like how could

932
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: they take the Cowboys too seriously? Once Dak rips his

933
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: hamstring off the bone and they felt like they were

934
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: sleepwalking through the game for about the first twenty five

935
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: minutes and then they realize, okay, this is JV versus farsity.

936
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: They flipped a switch and basically fifteen minutes they scored

937
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: would felt like thirty points and it was over in

938
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. I also think Dallas, we talked about this

939
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: last week was Zeke. They had to leave him at

940
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: home because he was being late, and you know, for

941
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: an older player who's supposed to be like a high

942
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: level leader, and then today he's playing and he fumbles

943
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: on the zone, like in what world? And this is

944
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Jerry doesn't want to cut him. You

945
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: can't tell me, Mike McCarthy if he's willing to leave

946
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: a veteran player who's clearly not on board, then would

947
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: play him the next week. Why did you just cut

948
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: a player like that? Like what's the point? And then

949
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: look today he fumbles, it leads to a score. I

950
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: just think the Cowboys are all out of whack from

951
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: the hierarchy. And we talk about this all the time,

952
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: the parallels with the you know that late Postgruden al Davis,

953
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: where you have this owner who's also in charge of

954
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: the personnel, who's just in charge of the money. And

955
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: it just like the Eagles. You know, if a guy's

956
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: on the field, you know who's in chart Howie the

957
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: GM who works hand in hand with the coach. Right

958
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: with the Niners, it's Kyle and John was like, yeah,

959
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: why Zeke playing out? Jerry likes him? You know, I'm

960
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: good right, Like what are we doing? Jerry's eighty two

961
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: years old. Just this season clearly was gonna get away

962
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: from him. But it's and now they're better off column

963
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have a new coach. You know, the

964
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: Chargers won five games last year, which led to McConkey

965
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: an alt So aren't you better off here? The Cowboys

966
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: just losing all these games he's wrong to end up

967
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: with the fourth pick, and then you could just revamp

968
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: your roster.

969
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: I think, listen, there's two games left, they have a

970
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: chance to be favored. Carolina look pretty good today. That

971
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: rookie receiver Cuba Hubbard.

972
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: I think I take Carolina in that game if they

973
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: played next week.

974
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: Yep. I think Bryce Young. You know, at the end

975
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: of last year, Bryce was okay in the last like

976
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: four games. Bryce looked comfortable today. You know, I think

977
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: we both like that coach Canalis. They brought in, like

978
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: a smart guy. I think Carolina can move the ball.

979
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: I think that wide receiver they picked early as a

980
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: hit and he's a really.

981
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: Really South Carolina guy. Yeah, Debo, yep, you can play.

982
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: And now New York they probably win, But that schedule

983
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: is it's El's and my take is where you want

984
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: to get. So you're Giants will probably have the number

985
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: one pick. New England's playing New England a real off,

986
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: two more, three more wins. They're not going to be

987
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: number one, and they don't need a quarterback. And I

988
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: think Gered Mayo, now forget Brissette, Drake's their guy. Drake

989
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: may They're gonna they're gonna this, This locker room is young.

990
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna fight their ass off to win games. Giants.

991
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: I would I would buy some stock. Now we'll see

992
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: if the coaching. Drake May is a pretty interesting player

993
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 1: called Ye, he's he's hard to watch and go, there's

994
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: something there well, a lot of coaches would want to

995
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: work with that.

996
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, his comp was justin Herbert. He was an unpolished

997
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: justin Herbert. You can completely see it. You can absolutely

998
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: see the movement, the size, the arm. He's just his

999
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: feet aren't quite as good. I mean, Herbert looks like

1000
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: the league logo. He's got that perfect wide stance.

1001
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Is how good does he look right now? Oh my god?

1002
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: God. But my takeaway here with Dallas is if Carolina

1003
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: plays well and they'll have something to play for here.

1004
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: I think they want to keep Bryce young and keep

1005
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: him healthy. I think the Cowboys could have the second

1006
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: to third pick in this draft. Again, if Chicago was worse,

1007
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: they got a quarterback, If New England was have a quarterback,

1008
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: you start getting into that three or four spot. Right now.

1009
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: They're a three win team. Let's say they finished with four.

1010
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: John somebody's going to move up for cam Ward. Somebody's

1011
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: moving up for him, and I think Dallas could get

1012
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: a couple seconds, a couple thirds, that's how you read.

1013
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: That's what Duah Houston, you know what I think makes

1014
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: it really hard for Dallas. Obviously, Mike McCarthy was in

1015
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: the last year of his deal, had to have success

1016
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: to keep his job. He's gonna get fired. But if

1017
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: you look at the resumes when they fired Jason Garrett

1018
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: and hired Mike mc Mike McCarthy was just a way

1019
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: better coach than Jason Garrett. Like, what are the chances

1020
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: that they are going to upgrade firing Mike McCarthy like

1021
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: his Belichick lined up to work with his eighty two

1022
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: year old GM owner. Probably not, even though their relationship

1023
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: and their roster has a lot of questions, Like, honestly,

1024
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: the only thing they're gonna have going for him because

1025
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: they always they never have cap space, is going to

1026
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: be their high draft picks in every round. But in

1027
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: terms of coaches lined up, like is this something Belichick

1028
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: and vrabel are interested in doing? Now? You have to

1029
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: look around, like Jacksonville's kind of a weird place. The

1030
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Bears aren't as desirable if you question Caleb's ability, So

1031
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: I listen. You could just it's the NFL as the Cowboys.

1032
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: But I wonder if a lot of people are gonna

1033
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: be a little reluctant, and it's like, is Jerry just

1034
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna give rabel or Belichick fifteen eighteen million dollars? Like

1035
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: give Spannos credit. He finally said, okay, Jim Harball, okay,

1036
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: and it worked.

1037
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: Let's look at the jobs that could be open. Okay,

1038
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: Jets is not a premier job. Impulsive owner, forty year old,

1039
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: prickly quarterback. I don't think Dallas is an elite job.

1040
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: You're tied to Dak Prescott. It's a very weak roster

1041
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: in a quickly improving NFC. Let's think of the other jobs.

1042
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: A Chicago, Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Chicago. You know Trevor Lawrence. It

1043
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: just I how many times does he want to go

1044
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: and rehab? I'm not, I'm not. I mean today it

1045
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: was Vikings twelve, Jag seven, Sam Darnold. They were zero

1046
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: for five in the red zone. That game could have

1047
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: been thirty to seven. Matt Jones can't play two picks

1048
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: one hundred yards. He can't play. So I mean that

1049
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: Jacksonville has quit. There's just nothing there. Their defense is

1050
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: pretty interesting, but they got nothing offensively. Jj MC.

1051
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: I think Trevor. I think Trevor Lawrence getting injured, and

1052
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think I saw Jay Gruden said and

1053
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: he had worked there. He's like, I'd heard the guy

1054
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: needs surgery that could easily come out in the next

1055
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: couple days. That he goes under the knife, I think

1056
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: they would have been better off. It's like, you know what,

1057
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is just shitty and some coach. These coaches

1058
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: are arrogant, like I can fix this now. It's like, well,

1059
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: he's crappy and he's missing a ton of time with

1060
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: major injuries, and they just paid him Dak Prescott money.

1061
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm out, Yeah, I can't because you can't get rid

1062
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: of the guy.

1063
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: What is the best job?

1064
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: None of them. They're all terrible. It's why these jobs

1065
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: are open. It's why the best teams never have job open.

1066
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: I would say Seattle was a pretty unique job opening,

1067
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: pretty level headed organization with talent, a good GM. Mike

1068
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: mcgaught like, that's a pretty rare job. But when you

1069
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: just look at jobs consistently, it's like the Packers five

1070
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: years ago, not the best job.

1071
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: The Packers five years ago. Matt Laflorida was the best

1072
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: job justin Herbert Chargers. Some can push back on the

1073
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: Spanos family, that was the second best job. See about

1074
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 2: every four years you get one great job opening. That's

1075
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: about it.

1076
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: And I think it turned out. And there's it's it's

1077
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: always easy to play Monday morning quarterback when we have

1078
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: information like you would have to invest, you know, all

1079
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: your money in Amazon fifteen years ago if we would

1080
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: have known, but people don't know. But I would say Washington.

1081
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson has to lose some sleep occasionally knowing that

1082
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: he turned down a quarterback that like everyone with a

1083
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: straight face can go, this guy could be one of

1084
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: the best two or three quarterbacks in the league during

1085
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: his you know, the next ten years. Right, he has

1086
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: that ability. You don't turn down a job like that.

1087
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: And it's like Dan Snyder's no longer there, so you

1088
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: get an owner. Those basketball team's weird, but that's because

1089
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: of morgs into that stuff. It's like he's just a

1090
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: high level owner, pays money, will pay for people like

1091
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: clearly like that's a really really good job and that

1092
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: was only because the guy sold his team and gave

1093
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: the you know Adam Peters and Dan Quinn, like I

1094
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: think dan Quinn got pretty lucky looking back that Ben

1095
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: Johnson hung up on those guys when they were flying

1096
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: to him, because that's a game changer.

1097
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: But you know what, and this goes back to god

1098
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: every industry in the world. But when Washington got rid

1099
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: of everybody, I predicted Washington would make the playoffs because

1100
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: I like Adam Peter's history, I like dan Quinn, I

1101
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: like Cliff Kingsbury, I like Jayden Daniels. My take is,

1102
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: if everybody's new, it's okay. If everybody they replaced was awful,

1103
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: and they were, and you know, for Washington to turn

1104
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: it around quickly, and for Houston last year to turn

1105
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: it around quickly, I think it highlights john something about

1106
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: the NFL that I think fans don't think about like

1107
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: we do because we do this for a living. But

1108
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: we look at the NFL we think, okay, there's like

1109
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: five great quarterbacks and five pretty good ones. That's the

1110
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: same with owners, gms, and coaches, everything in the league

1111
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: across the board. Washington right now has a top three

1112
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. They may have one of the top gms,

1113
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: they have one of the better owners Dan Quinn's. I mean,

1114
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: look at Dallas's defensive numbers. Without it, Dan's one of

1115
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: the five best defensive coaches. Jayden Daniels. We could be

1116
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: looking at the best rookie quarterback in a decade. The

1117
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: reason Washington feels even different than Houston is because I

1118
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: think the owner in Washington's better than the owner of

1119
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: the McNair's in Houston. Is if you're if you know

1120
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: what you're doing in the NFL and you can align,

1121
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, I've always had this rule. If you're an

1122
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: a even a minus at four things, owner GM, coach, quarterback,

1123
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: your super Bowl. Baltimore will be in the Super Bowl

1124
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: conversation every year. Harbaugh, Lamar, Steve Bushetti and their front office.

1125
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: It's just they're all really good, Kansas City great. The

1126
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: truth is Washington right now, they just hit. They hit

1127
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: on everything. Coach coordinator GM. It's it's not a fluke,

1128
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: they're not ready yet, but it's it. And it also highlights,

1129
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: God John, half of this league doesn't know what they're doing.

1130
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I think you're low. I think

1131
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: it's closer to twenty. And it really crystallized when I

1132
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: went to the Combine and I'm lucky enough to you

1133
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: know know, Andy and Howie, and you just see these

1134
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: organizations like it's football. Shit's gonna go wrong. You never know,

1135
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: adversity's gonna hit, whether a guy gets in trouble, whether

1136
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: coach underachieves. But like the Ravens, the Steelers, the Eagles,

1137
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: Andy and the Chiefs, like the same teams, Kyle's this

1138
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: is the worst season of all time for Kyle Shanahan.

1139
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna end up at minimum ten and seven. You know. Well,

1140
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: so it's like McVeigh. Shit hits the fans like, oh,

1141
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the playoffs again.

1142
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: Look at this hardball comes in to a tire fire.

1143
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: Their defense is mostly the same. Their offense arguably is

1144
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: worse because Michael Williams and Keenan are gone. He's relying

1145
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: on a right tackle and a slot receiver that are rookies.

1146
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: The defense has gone from the worst in the league

1147
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: to top five. On coaching mintor Jesse Minter and Harpball

1148
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: like that tells you there are there are any one time,

1149
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: there are five coaches in this league who are coordinators.

1150
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: They have no I mean Jets have one right now,

1151
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: Chargers had one last year, they're just not head coaches.

1152
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's November tenth, Colin, and they have the Chargers

1153
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: have more wins than they did in to twenty three.

1154
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: It's November tenth. I mean, we're still several weeks away

1155
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: from Thanksgiving and they they're gonna more than double their

1156
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: win total from last year. I also think, like look

1157
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: at Rogers and Davante, who were in first class relative

1158
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: to the NFL. It's like they were in first class

1159
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: and they were complaining the blanket wasn't quite soft enough.

1160
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: And then they went to the Raiders, they went to

1161
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, and then DeVante for some reason, demands he

1162
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets, like, do you guys know how

1163
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: good you had it? Do you guys know how good

1164
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: you had it in Green Bay? No matter who you are,

1165
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: And I've said this forever, like about what I do

1166
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: for a living, because people always ask, like you have

1167
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: the dream, eventually a job becomes work, right, Like, no

1168
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: matter what you do, whether you're a football player, whether you

1169
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: talk about football, whether you're an architect, But like when

1170
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: you like it, you do have to, like sometimes be

1171
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: able to take a step back and realize, Like some

1172
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: spots and some relationships, some partnerships like I don't want

1173
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: to screw this up. I have it pretty well, and

1174
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: even Belichick and Brady for a long time, but it heads.

1175
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: But I think for the most it took till Tom

1176
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: was they do to draw a line in the sand,

1177
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: which again, twenty plus years, those guys both started making

1178
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: a stink through like what what are we talking about? Guys,

1179
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: if they would have stayed, it wouldn't have been as good,

1180
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: but it would not. Their careers wouldn't have gone what

1181
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: they've experienced. And now Rogers' careers is gonna end with

1182
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: him playing for the Jets, like that's forever. The Packers

1183
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: make fun of the Bears, and they currently do. Why

1184
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: because we're well run. They're not. They have more money,

1185
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: they're in a way bigger market. Yet we're one of

1186
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: the premier organizations for thirty years when it comes to

1187
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: television ratings and making all this league a bunch of money.

1188
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: It's us, not them, because well we are have cohesion

1189
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: with our GM and our head coach and you know Baltimore,

1190
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, all the I think you know, listen, we

1191
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: can nitpick Sean McDermott some of his late game decisions

1192
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: over the But it's he's pretty well established. He's a

1193
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: good coach, yeah right, and him and the GM working

1194
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: cohesion with their quarterback. They are a high level operation

1195
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo now, been for four or five years. And

1196
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: think that they're running circles around their division.

1197
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: Look at look at look at Sean Payton. They're in

1198
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: cap hell this year and next year. They don't have

1199
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: their full ammo of picks because of Russell. I mean,

1200
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: Sewan is coaching with a rookie quarterback. They have one

1201
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: elite receiver.

1202
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: When's the last time they had a first round pick?

1203
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: Beside Bonnick spent several years right because I traded them away.

1204
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: That is a story of coaching. I mean, Denver now

1205
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: is a viable team. It is just coaching and Harbaugh.

1206
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: It's they have better players and they have more well

1207
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: rounded roster than the Denver Broncos do. But for Harbaugh

1208
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: to walk in and Peyton to walk in. If you

1209
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: look at what Sean Payton is dealing with now, I mean,

1210
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: go look up what they're still paying Russell this year

1211
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: and next They don't have a full uh Arsenal of picks.

1212
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: It's a rookie quarterback. There is a freaking gap the

1213
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: Grand Canyon wide in coaching Cord and it just happens.

1214
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: So happens. The Jets have a D owner, probably a

1215
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: D head coach right now, a C play caller, and

1216
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Frankly, who's a seed that nobody wants to acknowledge?

1217
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Well, if you put Jim Harbond the Bears right now

1218
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams, assuming that's who he would have wanted,

1219
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think there's any guarantee that's who he

1220
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: would have want. Maybe he would have liked Drake May.

1221
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past them. You know who knows.

1222
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: But let's just say he got Caleb Williams in this roster.

1223
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind. There's a wildcard team,

1224
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind, right and they had the

1225
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: opportunity he played for him. But of course like, oh

1226
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: the Bears too cheap, they won't do that. And I

1227
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: was always really critical of the spanos is because it's like, guys,

1228
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: the paying a coach four or five million dollars in

1229
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: this modern day when you clearly have the money. This

1230
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: isn't twenty five years ago when some teams had a

1231
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: lot more. Every team's getting three four hundred million dollars.

1232
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: You have when you get the opportunity and this guy's

1233
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: you have to cut the check, and they finally did

1234
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: and they're paying Mentor is probably one of the highest

1235
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: paid defensive coordinators. Obviously, Jim makes fifteen plus million. That

1236
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: cool success like one of the reasons for twenty years

1237
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: basically since Marty. It's like, ah, they always left a

1238
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: little something to It was never their roster. I mean

1239
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers went from Drew Brees to Philip Rivers to

1240
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: uh to Justin Herbert. That's not exactly far to Roger

1241
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: to Love, but it's not far off. And it's like, ah,

1242
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: they just no success really beside a couple of playoff wins.

1243
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: And now it feels like this team's gonna be a

1244
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender for the next four or five years. Right,

1245
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: as long as they can keep that quarterback healthy, they'll

1246
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: improve their roster. Maybe they get a playoff victory this year,

1247
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: like some big upset in the first round. Watch out

1248
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: for the Chargers because they're coming in some of these teams,

1249
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: Like do you have any faith that the Bears will

1250
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: get the coaching higher, right, don't. No, they never.

1251
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, let's circle back to that. What is the

1252
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: best job available in the NFL right now? In fact,

1253
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: I'll grab my phone, I'll do this to the audience.

1254
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I want to look at the standings right now.

1255
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say.

1256
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, do you think the Giants the Giants coming open

1257
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: are probably not?

1258
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: No, because it's one quarter.

1259
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: I think that would be a good job.

1260
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking right now, so jetsill have an open

1261
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: not a good gig.

1262
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: Saints have an opening, Raiders, won't. I hear a lot

1263
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: of people I don't. I'm with you. I don't think

1264
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: they will. But I think a lot of people in

1265
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: the NFL think Antonio Pierce has a good chance to

1266
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: be They just fired four coaches the other day, clean house, so.

1267
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: I would argue the best job. God, you can't be

1268
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. There is no good job opening in the AFC,

1269
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: so let's go to the NFC. I think the Giants

1270
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Speaker 2: will keep dable. So Dallas just because you have a

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Speaker 2: capable quarterback and a couple of stars isn't bad. Okay, Bears,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that as a job. Saints, I'm not interested. Yeah,

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: I'll make the I'll make the argument, hell, Tampa would

1274
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: be the best job if available, because I get Baker.

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01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: The Glazer family is pretty classy. I know them. Jason

1276
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: Light's an excellent general manager, one of the best.

1277
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Speaker 1: Spelichick a sleeper there.

1278
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: I I'll be honest with you.

1279
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Him and Jason work together.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think Todd Bowles is the issue. I

1281
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: think injuries are the issue.

1282
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: Same.

1283
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: I to me, Tampa is the best job over but

1284
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: if it comes open, I think Todd will probably retain it.

1285
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: Glasers don't want to fire people.

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Speaker 1: They're good people, and I don't I think Todd's done enough.

1287
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 1: Like you watch him. They are a well coached team

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01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: and they play hard. Now, I do wonder if some

1289
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: of these owners like, hey, we get Bill Belichick, like

1290
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: they're the type ownership once upon a time they traded

1291
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: for who John Gruden? Right, they hired Bruce Ari and

1292
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: signed Tom Brady like they're a sneaky like a little splash.

1293
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Speaker 1: I listen most of these. I would say the one

1294
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: gig that if you do believe in Caleb that he

1295
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: can just be the Pete Carroll early version of Russell.

1296
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: They have a defense, they have pieces on offense, and

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: because their record's going to be crappy, they're going to

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01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: have high draft picks, and like, I think that's a

1299
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: pretty intriguing job. The thing is they left they don't

1300
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: want to pay anybody. I mean, these coaches Kirby Smart

1301
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: and Lane Kiffin are playing each other. They may combine

1302
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: like twenty five million. It's the SEC you're the Chicago Bears,

1303
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you call Belichick? Hey, we'll give you

1304
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: three years, sixty million dollars. These are line items to people,

1305
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, to what these teams are making now

1306
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: that means nothing. Mark Davis, who historically the Raiders were

1307
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: the poorest NFL team, right, they just didn't have the

1308
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: cash flow. They have no problem paying guys to go away.

1309
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: Now why he has unlimited money, which is scary for

1310
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: some of these owners who know what they're doing because

1311
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: they can just fire people non stop. But the cash,

1312
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: whatever you want to offer Bill Belichick for all these

1313
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: teams you can offer. You can just give him two

1314
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: years fifty million dollars. Just heay, just come in and

1315
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: get us going in the right direction. But he's like, oh,

1316
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: could we find this coordinator maybe for six million dollars,

1317
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: Like what do you don't complain when you lose? Don't

1318
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: complain when you lose. So I feel bad for Bears

1319
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: fans because I would have. This season has been a

1320
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: train wreck. It really has given the expectations and now

1321
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: feels talk about a team that we talk about the

1322
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys not winning any more games. Look at the Bear schedule.

1323
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean they might only have one win, especially if

1324
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: their players are quitting.

1325
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football is on. It's only on Prime Video,

1326
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1333
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime for details. I want to end it with

1334
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: the college football topic. So during the season, nobody's gonna

1335
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: cry for me. But during the season, you and I

1336
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: don't get days off necessarily. I don't I have a

1337
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday show, you just work on Sunday, we work,

1338
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: So I gave myself Saturday off. I looked on the schedule.

1339
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to watch LSU Bama. I watched the first

1340
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 2: half and it was over. I got a feeling pretty

1341
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: quickly that Brian Kelly's team just wasn't up for it.

1342
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: That's that's not how you should play at home in

1343
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: your third year against Alabama, your primary rival. But I

1344
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: was thinking about this, is that the concern for college

1345
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: football creating even a twelve team playoff, that it would

1346
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: newter the regular season. And it's interesting. If I said

1347
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: to you, what has been the best college football game

1348
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: this season, I think most of us would go Ohio

1349
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: State Oregon was like unbelievable. But I can count on

1350
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: one hand the games I've said, like, I thought Texas

1351
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: Georgia would be great, it wasn't. I thought LSU Bama

1352
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: could be great, it wasn't. I thought Penn State Ohio

1353
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: State was fine, but I didn't think either team played

1354
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: particularly well. You know, they had opportunities. And I will

1355
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: say this, I love college for USC.

1356
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: Michigan was really fun at the time, it didn't age well,

1357
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: but that game at the time felt huge.

1358
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and they'll be close games. But

1359
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: I will say whereas the NFL has fourteen games a

1360
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: weekend and usually about six to seven are pretty damn good.

1361
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean we got some. I mean Kansas City, Denver, Washington, Pittsburgh,

1362
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: you know those were really good games. Hell, even Buffalo

1363
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: and the Colts for a while was good. San Francisco,

1364
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: Tampa was exceptional. And I think Rams Miami tomorrow will

1365
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: be good. So you'll get six or seven NFL games

1366
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: every weekend out of fourteen. I do think it has changed.

1367
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: My mindset is that the games don't feel as definitive

1368
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: or punitive, and so right now my take is everybody's

1369
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: going to have a loss. I'm not going a mile

1370
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: deep on a strong opinion on a loss. I think

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01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: Texas is good. They had a really bad Saturday, got

1372
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: into their fields. Georgia was pissed off. Georgia lost Ole Miss.

1373
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: They're a limited team offensively. But I will say that

1374
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: the college football Playoff, it's done this to college basketball,

1375
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: where the college basketball now is a bracket. It's got

1376
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: three great weeks and a lot of stuff that nobody watches.

1377
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: I see the numbers, I do think the playoff was

1378
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: necessary for the growth of the sport. But I feel

1379
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: like Saturday, I said, Hey, I'm gonna take the afternoon off,

1380
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 2: spend it with my wife and just take a deep breath, exercise,

1381
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: just get out in Chicago. Let's go have a wild,

1382
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: fun day. And I do feel I didn't feel I

1383
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: missed anything.

1384
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1385
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: I love college football. You do too, do you? But

1386
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little different that the regular SIS season

1387
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: doesn't feel as urgent to me. But I think I'll

1388
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: get the payoff for the last month.

1389
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not, when it comes to sports topics,

1390
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,839
Speaker 1: a moral high horse guy. You know, I'm not someone

1391
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: that like pounds my chest about certain things that bother people.

1392
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: You know, in terms of this use College's example, the

1393
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: nil the transfer portal. For the most part, I'm like,

1394
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: whatever things change, you deal with it. Miller Moss was

1395
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: benched this week and immediately he just quits, I'm going

1396
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal like that that happened. And even

1397
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: Lincoln's like, eeah, he's just a new opportunity. This guy

1398
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: has been with these players now for years with the team.

1399
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: I do think something's really out of whack that that

1400
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: was like a symbolic moment that this guy finally gets benched.

1401
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: He struggled, and it's like I just quit. I'm just

1402
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: leaving the team. Like and then you watch some of

1403
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: these games, like George is not nearly as good as

1404
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: they once were because people just the moment it chick

1405
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: gets toughs like I just quit. I think Brady talked

1406
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: about it in the offseason, was like when I went

1407
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: to Michigan, like for five years, it wasn't easy. Shit

1408
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: gets hard, but he represented every kid for the history

1409
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: of college football, like I want to kill my coach,

1410
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: I want to strangle my offensive coordinator. I just want

1411
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: to quit football, and you just couldn't. And I do

1412
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: think he watched the just what's going on in college football?

1413
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix it, but like that

1414
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: that just something's off, Like people get benched. It's football.

1415
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: You know, you were playing, like shit, we're four and five,

1416
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: we can't win a game. It's like I just quit.

1417
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: So it's like there's no one means anything. Clearly, you're

1418
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: getting some money, Like it's just out of whack. It

1419
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: really is. And that's why I think it represents all

1420
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: these guys moving NonStop, which has its positives but also

1421
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: has like that for me was a story like I

1422
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: don't know if something just feels icky, like there has

1423
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: to be And I think whenever these college coaches say something,

1424
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: most of the media.

1425
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 5: Is like, you just money hungry. You guys always had

1426
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 5: the advance guys, Yes, we get it, They've always made money.

1427
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 5: They also generate all the money for the athletic department.

1428
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 5: Look at how much coaches make in the NFL. Their

1429
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 5: valuable commodity players are two.

1430
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: But if Deebo Samuel's mad today, he can't just go

1431
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: tomorrow like I quit, I'm leaving. It's like no debo,

1432
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: you're under contract. Well, these guys are getting paid. It

1433
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: just it's just way out of whack. Yeah, And for

1434
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: the first time, it was just a moment. I don't

1435
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: care about Miller Moss. I'm not even like this USC

1436
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: team turns me off, But that moment, I do think

1437
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: He's not alone. I'm just I'm not trying to pick

1438
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: on him. He represents a lot of guys. Happens all over,

1439
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: happens with guys we probably don't know because he might

1440
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: be a guard or a safety. Happens at every program

1441
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: you get benched to middle the seasons like I quit,

1442
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm just out. And then I saw the South Carolina

1443
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: has a defensive end right now, who's got a chance

1444
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: to be like Miles Garrett. He's an elite freshman. And

1445
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: I saw, you know this week maybe on like Thursday

1446
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: or Friday, that like his value in nil because of

1447
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: how good he is is going to go to like

1448
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: two to five million dollars this next season. Well how

1449
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: does he know that? Because if you think about it,

1450
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: like Oregon, just look at the teams all the nil

1451
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: they're already contacting him, which I don't blame, like there

1452
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: are no rules. It's a lawless land right now. But

1453
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 1: something's off. And I do think that some of these coaches,

1454
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: like listen, we got no problem people getting paid, but

1455
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: there has to be I can't just tomorrow be like

1456
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: calling I'm out, Like I don't know. We have contracts.

1457
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: Isn't that the way the business works? And I feel

1458
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: like the media roots for all these guys get money rightfully,

1459
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: so but like that that's not how any business works ever,

1460
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: Like there are contracts people at the fall rule there

1461
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: just are no rules. Yeah, even the coaches like why

1462
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: Billy Napier not get fired well, because he's good. They

1463
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: have to pay him twenty five million dollars. They can,

1464
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: he's under contract. It's just it is what it is,

1465
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: where players just like the moment shit, and I get it.

1466
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: Like if you're at and listen, I came from Fresno State,

1467
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: we would have lost all of our good players back

1468
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. Boysey. I don't they got very lucky

1469
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: to keep genty He was offered a million dollars and

1470
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: turned it down, but he was an outliner. I just

1471
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: think the situation of like I do think it turns.

1472
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: It's just it's just out of whack. That's all I

1473
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: can say. I still enjoy the games, like I love

1474
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: Colorado is like one of the best stories, what Dion's done,

1475
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: Warren sapp that defensive line. I watched three games yesterday

1476
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: Colorado Ole miss in Georgia, and I had a lot

1477
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: of money on LSU and I turned it off basically

1478
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Speaker 1: in the third quarter. But those games, like, I still

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01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: enjoy the pageantry between it all. But sometimes you're just like,

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Speaker 1: I what going on here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel.

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01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like what's Lincoln supposed to do? Not

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: bench Miller Moss like people get benched. It's that happens sports.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lincoln and Les Miles are really good coaches

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: and both are really struggling. And I think, I think

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01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: it is really hard to build a culture when you

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01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: have to walk on eggshells around players. I mean, Sean

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 2: Payton can dog cuss a guy? Where are you going

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01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 2: to go now the NFL? You know, in the NBA

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 2: you have to walk on eggshells around pro basketball players.

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll get you fired immediately they don't like you.

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Speaker 2: But in the NFL you don't. In college football, college

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: football is becoming the NBA where coaches are terrified to

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 2: alienate players, And so I think for guys like you

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: know it, it's Harbaugh was really lucky. By the time

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: he built them into a power, the world changed. And

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01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: then he had a couple of years within IL, but

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01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: he had established a junior senior dominant roster, and then

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01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: he left and listened Jay Wright and Roy Williams and

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: Mike Kay get me out of here. So Bill self

1501
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: is having to deal with some of this. So I

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,799
Speaker 2: think college sports the NIL.

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: It is the dude have Virginia, who's like one of

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: the highest level guys ever, just quit this insane.

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's much easier to

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: build a culture in the NFL and churned things around immediately,

1507
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: Harbaugh Demiko Ryans because the cow the coach has the leverage.

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: College sports, now the star player has the leverage. And

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01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: it's just simply it's it's harder to build a culture

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: when you're walking on eggshells. And I've known programs I've

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: talked to coaches about this that they can't announce. They

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: have to wait until a certain date in August to

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 2: announce a starting left tackle or a starting running back

1514
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: because they're afraid the player will transfer. So what happens

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: is now college coaches are much less honest with the players.

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01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: They won't give them bad news early the depth chart,

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: they don't want it published. They so you're getting a

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: really inauthentic, dishonest relationship between college coach and college player

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: because college player will bold and not even the great ones,

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: the good ones will bold. Well.

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: I think Locksley told a story at Maryland that his

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: third string running back came in after the spring game

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: and said he wanted two hundred thousand dollars. He said, godspeed,

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: go get it. What are we talking about? And I

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: think going back to the coaching thing, I think you've

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: been talking to NFL players for decades. They will all

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01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: say my relationship like they love their position coach or

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: their coordinator, especially the good ones. But you get to

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: develop a real relationship so he can tell me good

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01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: and bad whatever. Well, how do I develop a real

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: relationship if I'm terrified if I say the wrong thing,

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01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: especially you're you're there's a difference of dealing with a

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Speaker 1: twenty eight year old and an eighteen or nineteen year old.

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: Let's face it, we're just as men. We're not as

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Speaker 1: mature at that age, much more emotional, and even something

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: that is correct, I'm not gonna listen to. So it's

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01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: a much more difficult situation. And before all those guys,

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: most of the older players in the NFL, they all

1539
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: attribute like the best thing going through some adversity, not

1540
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: getting a starting spot as a five star. I had

1541
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: to earn my way. It made me a better player.

1542
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: Now saying I'm out see you, and that just can't

1543
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: be healthy for the development. I think it's something to

1544
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: keep an eye on for the draft. Is like these

1545
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: teams think the draft now are not as deep because

1546
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: you got guys bouncing all around. The development is not

1547
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: as streamlined. Ye know, it's just out of whack. And

1548
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm not some anti paying the guys or anything, but

1549
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: we have to. And I love football. I mean I

1550
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: could watch football all day long as I do, lucky

1551
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: enough to get paid to do it. But when I

1552
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: saw that Miller Moss thing, I'm like, I don't know,

1553
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: something is just this is not Caleb his coach followed them.

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: I think you see a lot of times like Bo

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: Nicks was told we're going with or no, Dylan Gabriel like, hey,

1556
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: we're going with Jack normal. Some things is like totally understandable.

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: And then there's like Miller Moss acting like you think

1558
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: you're Matt Lioner or something. Your team's four and five

1559
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: and you have been shitty in some of these big moments,

1560
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: and you have an offense and you're just where are

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: you gonna go? Like San Diego State, Who's who's lining

1562
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: up for you? Yeah? But I just thought the headline, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Something just feels a little weird.

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01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: John Middlecoff his podcast is three and out, former scout

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01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia Eagles another robust, dynamic Sunday and uh

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Speaker 2: we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Body see you Colin the volume.

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