Speaker 1: I Am all in, will kiss You. I Am all
Speaker 1: In with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Everybody,
Speaker 1: We're back with another episode. I'm Scott Patterson and this
Speaker 1: is the I Am all In Podcast with our Heart
Speaker 1: Radio and one eleven productions. Star Crossed Lovers and Other
Speaker 1: Strangers that perhaps got soft and got but hurt like
Speaker 1: Dane did when he got blown up by the saucy
Speaker 1: blue eyes from that innocent Gilmore Rory who did not
Speaker 1: respond to his I Love you Riley. If you could
Speaker 1: give us the synopsis for the episode, please. This is
Speaker 1: episode sixteen star cross Lovers and Other Strangers, Air date
Speaker 1: March eighth, two thousand one. Emily agrees to let Rory
Speaker 1: miss the weekly dinner so she can celebrate her three
Speaker 1: month anniversary with Dean. Elsewhere, the town prepares for a
Speaker 1: festival that celebrates the founding of Stars Hollow. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: what happened to Dean? I mean, in in in what
Speaker 1: twelve episodes he goes from like, I'm from Chicago. I'm
Speaker 1: not from here. Hey, come on over here. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kiss you in the cabbage section in front of everybody,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know I'm talking to your mom, And
Speaker 1: now is at my turn to speak, and hey, let's
Speaker 1: watch Boogie Nights. What what happened to that guy? And
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's sitting in his junkie car
Speaker 1: that he's building for this girlfriend that's never got a
Speaker 1: chance to be safe or pass inspection at the d
Speaker 1: m V. And he says, and he says, I love you,
Speaker 1: I love you, And at big mats of ball hanging
Speaker 1: out there, Amy, am I wrong? Giant? Like that's the
Speaker 1: biggest mats of ball hanging out there I've ever seen
Speaker 1: on television. And then she just but but her face,
Speaker 1: that's sweet innocent, sixteen year old face with those blue
Speaker 1: eyes like open wide, like how's waiting for her to
Speaker 1: say thank you? Thank you? Oh oh, that's a big
Speaker 1: swing and a miss for Dean. I mean, I've been there,
Speaker 1: I've been that guy. It's happened to me. It's not
Speaker 1: a place he was so dark though I didn't think
Speaker 1: it needed to be the breakup. Yeah, but that's but
Speaker 1: that's how But that's that personality, that guy. He was
Speaker 1: so humiliated. Dean was so humiliated he had no other
Speaker 1: choice but to save face. Right, just shows you he's
Speaker 1: not the guy for her. Right, he's not cool, calm
Speaker 1: and collected that he came. I see, I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I had him nailed from the beginning.
Speaker 1: That tough guy act. It's it's all, it's just an act.
Speaker 1: He's just a softie underneath. And if he doesn't get
Speaker 1: his way, he gets butt hurt and he runs home
Speaker 1: to mommy, and but he's these are kids, you know,
Speaker 1: these are kids. But he started out so he was
Speaker 1: such a cool dude, right, yeah, Bold, this this great
Speaker 1: looking kid, and he had his act together and he
Speaker 1: was just contained and he was cool. And then he's
Speaker 1: sitting in a junkie corvet going I love you? Is
Speaker 1: it a corvett? I thought it was at I don't
Speaker 1: think we know, yeah, right, little junk junkyard corvet that
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, Oh my god, what a scene. I
Speaker 1: was so happy. I was so bored with that whole
Speaker 1: thing because he was he was like he had softened
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like Jesus, what's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen now? And then he dumps her. He breaks
Speaker 1: it's like raft, yeah, and you and she was completely
Speaker 1: justified and just sort of staring at him like what
Speaker 1: this is moving very quickly? Three boy? I tell you
Speaker 1: being a guy, an eighteen year old guy, seventeen year
Speaker 1: old guy feeling that much for a girl and actually
Speaker 1: saying those words, boy, that stuff most teenage girls would
Speaker 1: have set it back. She's just a unique teenage girl.
Speaker 1: She's a Gilmore. Yeah. It's like, listen, man, we're in
Speaker 1: a junkyard and I'm I mean, we're not in the
Speaker 1: We're not even in a used car lot, which should
Speaker 1: be bad enough, right for a Gilmore. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: she could have dealt with like a used jeeper something.
Speaker 1: She handled it well. She sort of tried to explain
Speaker 1: to him, like, you know, my family, you know my life,
Speaker 1: like I can't just be as comfortable with this as
Speaker 1: you are. But he was not having it, and she
Speaker 1: was like, don't be mad, and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be mad. How can you not be mad? You
Speaker 1: just you just you just put your cards on the table.
Speaker 1: I mean, what if I was sitting there in that booth, right,
Speaker 1: because I do remember that scene where you know my
Speaker 1: all I am all in scene? Right? What if Laura
Speaker 1: la I just said that's nice? Anyway? Should we order? Wait?
Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about because Rachel, Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: Rachel show. What did you think watching yourself with Rachel Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I, you know, acting wise.
Speaker 1: I just think it was just too much on me.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't like what I did behind the
Speaker 1: owner with the pausing and I was really kind of
Speaker 1: what I was kind of mugging a little too much.
Speaker 1: I think it was that was pushing everything. And I
Speaker 1: didn't really particularly likee. I liked the scene with Laura
Speaker 1: lay on the bench during the festival. I did too.
Speaker 1: Did you see the knee touch when you touched her knee? Yeah,
Speaker 1: with a fist, with a fist, you know, it was
Speaker 1: like solid move though solid, But did I tell it
Speaker 1: was an open handed It was like a bro It
Speaker 1: was somewhere between bro and best friends. It was subtle,
Speaker 1: but it was so sweet. I really was like, wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that scene. I really like that scene because
Speaker 1: that scene had that was you know, that had a
Speaker 1: fine line you know where you had to sort of
Speaker 1: you know, walk down the middle of that scene. Um.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I I did not like my reaction
Speaker 1: to her when she came in. I didn't like my
Speaker 1: I like the scene. I thought that the girls were great,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think I was I didn't serve that
Speaker 1: scene very well. Like I think I was just too
Speaker 1: wide eyed and shocked. And it's like, okay, so that's like,
Speaker 1: that's the girl we were talking about. That's the model chick, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's the girl. That's the girl in my dreams
Speaker 1: who heard aisodes who got me but hurt. Maybe I
Speaker 1: said I love you to her and she say, I've
Speaker 1: got to go clean my lenses. Yeah. And the whole
Speaker 1: thing was interesting because Luke does really sort of reveal
Speaker 1: like she's not one for staying no no. She uh,
Speaker 1: she boked my will hawk and she she went off
Speaker 1: the Middle East. Then she went off to you know,
Speaker 1: she went off to war zones. You know, she's a serious,
Speaker 1: serious uh photographer. So she's you know, just a tough
Speaker 1: thing to deal with. But yeah, you see how comfortable
Speaker 1: LUKEA is with Laura La. That's the point. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the point. It's easy. It fits like a glove. We're
Speaker 1: just such good friends. Are rhythm is just there, you know,
Speaker 1: we pick up immediately on that rhythm. It's like we're
Speaker 1: we're on stage playing jazz and we know each other's moves, right,
Speaker 1: So it just fits, it works, it's great. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: And that was the whole point. It's the rhythm of it.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe my reaction wasn't so bad because that
Speaker 1: really stopped the music. That's like the needle goes off
Speaker 1: the record and she walks in everybody just staring at her.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's how I played it, I don't think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Laura had to sort of take control. I had
Speaker 1: to handle it for you, right, And so she got
Speaker 1: to act as a friend like, oh, poor poor guy's heart,
Speaker 1: his wounded heart, his poor wounded heart. I must help here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like it's like everything that happens
Speaker 1: to that guy, it just makes him look better in
Speaker 1: her eyes lately, right, So um yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: and now she's got uh a threat. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the word is. She she's got competition Rachel's back.
Speaker 1: She's handling it well, I thought so too's handling it.
Speaker 1: I think Laurel is handling it beautifully. Yeah, and probably
Speaker 1: because she's self aware enough to know. Like I've dated
Speaker 1: Max recently, I've dated other guys. Who am I to
Speaker 1: be mad about this? Yeah? I thought that too. Plus
Speaker 1: she's missing Max and dialing his number, and you know
Speaker 1: this kind of really miss Max. Chase, Chase, how great
Speaker 1: was Come on, how do you like your scotch, Chase?
Speaker 1: How do you what do you want to drink scotch? Need?
Speaker 1: Oh they're not good for you? That's fine, And you
Speaker 1: knew Richard was like, this guy is no good. Lets
Speaker 1: her crawl out the window. I thought that was some
Speaker 1: of the funniest stuff that I've seen so far. Those
Speaker 1: scenes with Chase and and and Laurel and the and
Speaker 1: the Gilmore parents were just supreme, just hysterically funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: her messing around with all the little chot skis the
Speaker 1: crystal Little John so good. I know we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it later, but the misery reference was just so genius.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know what, we have somebody who
Speaker 1: uh could be regarded as my nemesis and this show.
Speaker 1: It's not Darth Vader, but it's kind of the Darth
Speaker 1: Vader of stars Hollow. Mr Taylor Dozy of Dozie's Market.
Speaker 1: Michael Winters, the the incomparable, the brilliant Michael Winters is
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings. I cannot wait to talk with him.
Speaker 1: He is such a great guy and such a great actor,
Speaker 1: and uh, I miss working with him so much. Um,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to talk to him. So after
Speaker 1: we after we come back, we're gonna we're gonna saddle
Speaker 1: up and rid the prairie with Taylor Dozy. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm Scott Patterson. This is I am All In podcast.
Speaker 1: My Heart Radio will be right back after these words
Speaker 1: with Michael Winters, Ladies and gentlemen. Michael Winters is in
Speaker 1: the waiting room. He's in the green room eating lollipops
Speaker 1: and striped candies and caramels. And I how are you doing, buddy?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great? Where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 1: Where are you from? Where you where in Seattle? You're
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Yeah. So listen, now we've got you. We
Speaker 1: probably don't have you for long because you're in such demand.
Speaker 1: I want to start from the beginning. Beginning. There's a
Speaker 1: bunch of fan questions, a bunch of listener questions. They
Speaker 1: want to know things. We got to give him. We
Speaker 1: gotta give him some answers here. They want to know, Um,
Speaker 1: how did you get the role of Taylor? Um? And
Speaker 1: did you know when you got the role of Taylor.
Speaker 1: You would play the part for many years. That's from
Speaker 1: Kristen and Boulder, Colorado. Boulder. I spent a summer in Boulder.
Speaker 1: Beautiful place. There's a great Um. I got the job
Speaker 1: in the normal way. It was another audition like anything else,
Speaker 1: and Uh, I went and I did a call back
Speaker 1: and I got the job. Now when they when they
Speaker 1: offered the job, they said it was a four arc. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, four episode arc with the possibility of recurring. Well,
Speaker 1: every job you got at that time was that, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: it will probably recur, it could recur, you know, and
Speaker 1: you just sort of stopped thinking about that. So when
Speaker 1: I started it, UM, I had no idea it would
Speaker 1: be more than four episodes. And in fact, I told them,
Speaker 1: you know, I was going back and forth between Seattle
Speaker 1: in l A. Because I had theater connections up here,
Speaker 1: and I would come up here and do plays and
Speaker 1: then I'd go down there and audition and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I said, okay, four episodes. How long did that running
Speaker 1: said great, because right after that, I'm going back to Seattle,
Speaker 1: uh to look for theater work up there. And they said,
Speaker 1: that's fine, We'll do the four episodes and then if
Speaker 1: we ever need you again, we'll fly you down. So um.
Speaker 1: So I did the four episodes, and after that it
Speaker 1: never stopped for seven years and the reboot, and you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't constant. So I did come up to Seattle. Uh.
Speaker 1: Every year i'd come up. I would come up at
Speaker 1: the end of what used to be pilot season. I
Speaker 1: guess there isn't one anymore, and come up because the
Speaker 1: theaters I worked at a lot of played over the summer,
Speaker 1: so I'd come back up here for a few months.
Speaker 1: And I would always say every one of those seven years,
Speaker 1: I think I said, Okay, I'm going back to Seattle
Speaker 1: do plays. Um. I won't be done there till late
Speaker 1: in August. You know that's about when you start again, right,
Speaker 1: I said, just don't put me in the first episode.
Speaker 1: Every single time they put me in the first episode,
Speaker 1: and so, uh, several years in a row, I'd be
Speaker 1: doing a show and on a Sunday night, I'd have
Speaker 1: a friend waiting and they streak me to the airport
Speaker 1: and I'd get a late flight, which because you can't
Speaker 1: get anymore after the you know, after nine eleven it stopped,
Speaker 1: and I would fly down someplace and like spend the
Speaker 1: night in Las Vegas or something and get a quick
Speaker 1: hop over work all day Monday, which was my day off,
Speaker 1: and then into Tuesday, and then fly back up here
Speaker 1: first show on Tuesday night. That happened four or five
Speaker 1: seasons in a row. But I, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: mind doing and it was great to be able to
Speaker 1: come back. But but you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: a smaller part, so I, um, I didn't have to
Speaker 1: be there all the time. You know, I only worked
Speaker 1: and I only lived then. I only lived about well
Speaker 1: it was ten minutes tops from my house to Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers that traffic day. So it was really interested. So
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. So you did recurring roles
Speaker 1: on shows like Cheers and Fraser and what was it?
Speaker 1: How was how was Gilmore Girls different? Well? It was long.
Speaker 1: Those other ones were they didn't even really I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even call them recurring. They were guests, star parts, and
Speaker 1: some of them were just you know, one episode. A
Speaker 1: couple of them. I did more than one episode, but
Speaker 1: they were small, you know, they they didn't go on
Speaker 1: for very long. But Gilmer Girls ended up going on
Speaker 1: for seven years and then the Netflix reboot after that.
Speaker 1: So it was pure luck and I'll always be grateful
Speaker 1: for the house I'm sitting in right now. I was
Speaker 1: able to put a down payment on because of all
Speaker 1: the time I spent on Gilmore Girls. So what did
Speaker 1: you think of the character of Taylor Dozy? What did
Speaker 1: you Michael personally think of it? I just thought he
Speaker 1: was a jerk, but it was but it was he
Speaker 1: was funny, and I always thought, I think what happens is,
Speaker 1: you know, an hour long show, that's a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: a lot of time to fill. And I thought they'd
Speaker 1: get to a point where they had some time to
Speaker 1: film and say, okay, uh, make Taylor do something annoying
Speaker 1: and will spread it out over the episode. And I'd
Speaker 1: get there and be a thorn under somebody's saddle, you know,
Speaker 1: and cause trouble and then it would all get cleared up.
Speaker 1: So it was a fun distraction I think from the
Speaker 1: oh the romance and uh stuff that the girls had.
Speaker 1: You know, I was one of the local eccentrics and
Speaker 1: my my job was to annoy people. But I love
Speaker 1: it was great, It was It was. It was always
Speaker 1: fun going to work. Now when I was going to
Speaker 1: be sparring with you, if I remember correctly, the first
Speaker 1: episode was a Halloween episode, and I wanted to put
Speaker 1: pumpkins and stuff all around the door of the diner,
Speaker 1: and you didn't want it, and so we tussled. Though.
Speaker 1: That's how we started and continued for years, and you,
Speaker 1: you and I personally got along very nicely to sort
Speaker 1: of a buffer that well, it was the Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I just love working with you, I realized,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love working with all of them, but
Speaker 1: especially you, because I did too. It was great. They
Speaker 1: were just such fun scenes to do. I mean just
Speaker 1: that that bred conflict going on, I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just it was just so much fun, so much fun.
Speaker 1: Display So what did your character What did you think
Speaker 1: of Luke? What did your character think of Luke? Just
Speaker 1: another oh, somebody who didn't understand the good that I
Speaker 1: was after, you know, he was he was an obstruction
Speaker 1: to me making this town a better place, a greater place,
Speaker 1: and I knew exactly how to do it if you
Speaker 1: would just let me have my way, if you would
Speaker 1: just get out of the way and let me do
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. So uh so we were
Speaker 1: always just sort of at friendly loggerheads. We were up
Speaker 1: against each other, but you know, it never came to
Speaker 1: blows or anything. Just so you you don't feel you
Speaker 1: were misunderstood as a character, that you were just trying
Speaker 1: to take control of the town, because just what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: nobody understood how much I had to offer and how
Speaker 1: good my ideas were, and how essential it was that
Speaker 1: we did this for the town. And of course all
Speaker 1: it did was make life impossible for everybody else, and
Speaker 1: so they came. You were sort of the spearhead of that,
Speaker 1: of of standing up to Taylor and his wacky ideas.
Speaker 1: So so here's a question that I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people would be interested in. Yeah, were you given
Speaker 1: any or any amount of direction on the characterization or
Speaker 1: did you come up with that purely yourself. Well, it
Speaker 1: seemed to me the characterization was in the language, and
Speaker 1: you know, just like just like any acting job, and
Speaker 1: so I followed what I felt were the clues to
Speaker 1: the character from that. So, yeah, everybody got direction. Mine
Speaker 1: was usually go a little faster, I take it up
Speaker 1: because I was just used to the stage where you're
Speaker 1: able to sort of expand and take the time that
Speaker 1: you need. This is just a whole different world. And
Speaker 1: when I when I finally hooked into after a few episodes,
Speaker 1: then it got easy because then I was able to
Speaker 1: make all those mental connections just happened immediately. Instead of
Speaker 1: thinking about something, just react to it, you know. And
Speaker 1: so it gave me this kind of rhythm of jumping
Speaker 1: around from one thing to another. Yes, okay, fine, whatever
Speaker 1: you say, but the important thing is and I moved
Speaker 1: right on to the next thing. And uh so yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of direction, uh really helped me sort of
Speaker 1: focus on what they were after and how they wanted
Speaker 1: to get there. So so we're we're in season one still,
Speaker 1: we're about halfway through, maybe a little beyond halfway, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of Dean. What what did
Speaker 1: Tailor think of Dean? Um? He he didn't sort of
Speaker 1: get in my viewfinder, you know. Um, yes, so that
Speaker 1: that's Rory's boyfriend. I guess I don't know, but he
Speaker 1: didn't have anything I don't remember having much to do
Speaker 1: with how the town ran itself, and that was my
Speaker 1: most important thing, uh, you know, how we make it better,
Speaker 1: How how we become the greatest little town in America,
Speaker 1: you know. And he was off dating um that girl
Speaker 1: you know Rory and uh, so I didn't have much
Speaker 1: opinion about him, you know, I just as long as
Speaker 1: he kept out of my way and didn't try to
Speaker 1: stop me from doing what I wanted to do. Most
Speaker 1: of the guys were like that, And I didn't know
Speaker 1: Jared much at all. Now my level, I knew a
Speaker 1: lot better and um uh Matt Zuki. Later on we
Speaker 1: were a little more friendly, you know, just the actors were.
Speaker 1: But those guys were almost in like a different story,
Speaker 1: a different world, a different level that I. Um. They
Speaker 1: were there, and you know, I'm sort of aware of
Speaker 1: their presidents, but I never ran up against them like
Speaker 1: I would you and well lots of other people would.
Speaker 1: You know. Your character is uh very much involved in
Speaker 1: the town celebrations and overseeing them and getting permitted properly
Speaker 1: in that kind of thing. What were your favorite celebrations?
Speaker 1: I love, um, I love the art one, you know,
Speaker 1: the live I don't know what season that was, the
Speaker 1: thing that was based on the thing from Laguna Beach
Speaker 1: where they did tableau vivon of famous paintings. That was
Speaker 1: so much fun to be involved in, although it was
Speaker 1: difficult because it was another one of those things like
Speaker 1: the town meetings where I had I wasn't in the
Speaker 1: heart of the scene, but I'm running them, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm narrating them or something, or I'm trying to keeping
Speaker 1: them going so that most of the shooting of all
Speaker 1: of those would be on everybody else. And then at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, uh, we the cameras would
Speaker 1: turn around, and then I'd have to do all my
Speaker 1: stuff at the end, which was all stuck in the middle,
Speaker 1: you know, so that I remember particularly that one of
Speaker 1: the living art paintings was tyfficult because we worked all
Speaker 1: night and then it got to the end of the
Speaker 1: night and I sat around in the tucks all day
Speaker 1: and did virtually nothing, uh you know, little bits here
Speaker 1: and there. And then I had all of these introductions
Speaker 1: to do, and everybody went home. All the crew was
Speaker 1: dying to get on the road, just get out of there.
Speaker 1: And I had to do these long, complicated speeches with
Speaker 1: a lot of Italian names in it. And the guy
Speaker 1: who was directing that episode said, I don't want you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to put the extra pressure on you,
Speaker 1: but where you're standing, the sun is going to hit
Speaker 1: you in the face. In about twenty minutes, we need
Speaker 1: to get this all done in twenty minute. Early on
Speaker 1: in the very first season, because it was the first
Speaker 1: time I had it. We did the uh, the reenactment,
Speaker 1: the the Revolutionary War reenactment stuff, and we had all
Speaker 1: that stuff in the snow and the uniforms and the
Speaker 1: rifles and everything, and um h Huddleston and what was
Speaker 1: his first David David, who was the mayor. Everybody thinks
Speaker 1: I'm the mayor. I was never the mayor. Uh, David
Speaker 1: was the mayor. He did two episodes, I think was
Speaker 1: all he ever did. But he sort of ran it
Speaker 1: and he looked out for us. There were a bunch
Speaker 1: of us who had to kneel in the snow all
Speaker 1: night long. Was another night shoot, and and uh, we
Speaker 1: just had to kneel there because we were in these
Speaker 1: styrofoam things that looked like snow banks because the snow
Speaker 1: got bigger as the night when and he he finally
Speaker 1: just sort of said, listen to you've got to let
Speaker 1: these people get up. You have to get out of here.
Speaker 1: He took care of us all and I was always
Speaker 1: appreciative of that. But all of the all of those celebrations,
Speaker 1: I always had something fun to do, running around trying
Speaker 1: to keep them going, uh, trying to you know, troubleshoot
Speaker 1: as things went on. The food fair there, which was
Speaker 1: I guess in the in the reboot. That was kind
Speaker 1: of fun running around with all the countries and the food.
Speaker 1: And I loved the uh the dance marathon. When we
Speaker 1: went over to the high school out in the valley
Speaker 1: and spent the day out there. It was fun because
Speaker 1: we were in a different place and a whole different situation,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't as much in charge of that. I
Speaker 1: don't remember being, but it was something. It was sort
Speaker 1: of fun to be around. The right they were all great,
Speaker 1: you know, it was always a variety. So Charlotte from
Speaker 1: uh Smyrna Beach wants to know if the food and
Speaker 1: Doesi's Market was real. Uh, well, the canned goods and
Speaker 1: the boxes were all but the produce only if we
Speaker 1: needed to use it, if somebody had to pick it up.
Speaker 1: Then it seemed to me that the produce was real.
Speaker 1: The others, you know, they make fabulous plastic fruit you
Speaker 1: can't you know, and vegetables. You can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1: You know, a green pepper plastic looks like a real
Speaker 1: green pepper, especially you know when it's sort of at
Speaker 1: a distance. So yeah, the can goods, that the non
Speaker 1: perishable stuff, that was all real as far as I know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the boxes. We never actually dealt with them.
Speaker 1: Was mostly in background. If anything had to be packed
Speaker 1: in a sack or you know, anybody was checking out
Speaker 1: or anything, then that was much more likely to be real.
Speaker 1: But you couldn't grab an apple and eat it. I
Speaker 1: don't think you would very careful about that. Um So
Speaker 1: here's a question. This is one of my questions. You know,
Speaker 1: it's too thousand twenty one. We did the reboot five
Speaker 1: years ago. Where do you think? Because I always think
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, when I was preparing the
Speaker 1: two rebot, where you know, where's Luke Ben? Where is
Speaker 1: he now? That kind of thing? Where's Taylor? Does he
Speaker 1: in two one? What is he doing right now? Uh? Boy?
Speaker 1: Probably if he can get away with it exactly what
Speaker 1: he's always done. You know, maybe he is mayor maybe
Speaker 1: he uh maybe he does run for mayor in fact,
Speaker 1: he runs for you know, there's a one episode which
Speaker 1: has some very fun stuff in it. I think where
Speaker 1: I ran for Ambudsman. Uh, Who's a sort of a
Speaker 1: voice for the people, not the mayor, but somebody who
Speaker 1: could bring up problems and difficulties with the people who
Speaker 1: actually run the town, even though I felt like I
Speaker 1: was running the town. Um and and Laura I decided
Speaker 1: that I just wanted out of hand. There was no
Speaker 1: there never was any opposition. I just sort of got
Speaker 1: the job every year. So she decided, no, I'm going
Speaker 1: to and she got she got somebody to run against me,
Speaker 1: and I can't remember who it was, but of course
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to get rid of the Taylor, so he
Speaker 1: was winning. And then and and uh. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite moments in the entire series for me, my fun
Speaker 1: moment was by that time, they had opened that window
Speaker 1: up between the diner and the sweet shop, My Sweet Shop,
Speaker 1: so you could see from the diner into the sweet Shop.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, you and Laurel I
Speaker 1: were talking in the diner about the election and looked
Speaker 1: over and saw me sitting at the at the counter
Speaker 1: in My Sweet Shop with the lights off, looking very
Speaker 1: dejected because I was about to lose this election. And uh,
Speaker 1: and at one point I picked up a can of
Speaker 1: ready whip and just sprayed a mouthful of it in
Speaker 1: my mouth to make itself a better And she felt
Speaker 1: so bad about that that she turned it around and
Speaker 1: you know, sort of put the kai bosh on whoever
Speaker 1: it was she was getting to run against me, and
Speaker 1: I want again anyway, I'm I can only imagine that
Speaker 1: Taylor is just finding new ways to annoy everybody in town.
Speaker 1: He doesn't mean to annoy them, but he just has
Speaker 1: big ideas and great possibilities. If everyone would just understand
Speaker 1: how right he was, you know, so my bad. He's
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. I don't imagine he every time.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine taking a vacation, like taking a cruise
Speaker 1: or anything like that, because who knows what would happen
Speaker 1: in his absence. What are the memories you have of
Speaker 1: the two of us getting into trouble, Well, mostly our
Speaker 1: trouble was with each other, wasn't it? Uh trying to
Speaker 1: get things done and uh and uh just butting up,
Speaker 1: betting heads against each other. Yeah, there were no high
Speaker 1: jinks off set. We were definitely not that kind of
Speaker 1: It's not like we you and I after shooting him
Speaker 1: was finished, we go grab a drink and get into
Speaker 1: bar fights or anything like that. We didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean you and me, not Taylor and Luke. No, no,
Speaker 1: I think they've mean Taylor and Luke. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I can't imagine Taylor going to the bar.
Speaker 1: Everybody would have kicked him out if he had tried
Speaker 1: to go, because he wouldn't been able to go in
Speaker 1: and just sit down and have a drink. He'd be
Speaker 1: bugging everybody about his Lady project. So I think if
Speaker 1: he ever went, he'd go home and drink alone. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he'd have a bottle of wine or something. So
Speaker 1: what is your absolute favorite memory of the show? Wow,
Speaker 1: the Ready Whip as the one I always think of.
Speaker 1: I love Um. I had to ride a horse and
Speaker 1: we did another sort of Civil War reenactment where I
Speaker 1: had to ride a horse, just ride it into the
Speaker 1: shoot and get off the horse. I didn't even have
Speaker 1: to get on the horse, which was great because I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And I was in this huge uniform
Speaker 1: with a sordinary thing, and that was fun. And they
Speaker 1: sent me out because I am not used to horses.
Speaker 1: They sent me out to a ranch way the hell
Speaker 1: out in the valley to work with the guy who
Speaker 1: was the horse wrangler, and he was very very helpful
Speaker 1: and help me get on and ride, and I rode
Speaker 1: around a whole bunch that day, just around a corral,
Speaker 1: you know, so if the whole event was really really fun,
Speaker 1: and I remember that that being great. Um. My favorite
Speaker 1: moments often were the town meetings because Liz and I
Speaker 1: were would sit up on that dias and not do
Speaker 1: anything most of the day, just throw the lines in,
Speaker 1: you know. We wouldn't even get dressed, we'd get makeup
Speaker 1: on and just sit around in our street clothes and talk.
Speaker 1: And and she was so full of starters. She knew
Speaker 1: and had worked with everybody. And we had a thing
Speaker 1: we do where um um, somebody would start singing a song,
Speaker 1: you know, because she was a singer, and uh we
Speaker 1: sing old saloon songs, you know, famous old standards, but
Speaker 1: none of us knew neither of us knew all the lyrics.
Speaker 1: So one of the others would start and do three lines,
Speaker 1: and then the other person would try to remember the
Speaker 1: next three lines. It was just this endless game, and
Speaker 1: I love that. I loved the day that Carol King
Speaker 1: was there and did that was the reboot again, I think,
Speaker 1: And we worked all day and she was fantastic. We
Speaker 1: had we had great fun and worked all day on
Speaker 1: that one scene because it was all of us in
Speaker 1: a circle and so everybody had to get there their
Speaker 1: separate shots. And at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody was starting ready to go home, and she said, well,
Speaker 1: you can all go home if you want, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stay round and play the piano. If anybody
Speaker 1: wants to stay, that's fine. And she did half hour
Speaker 1: at that beat up, old out of tune piano and
Speaker 1: nobody left. Everybody stayed, and that was a high point.
Speaker 1: That was just so amazing, so great. I heard about that.
Speaker 1: I wish I was there. It was sublime. Those things
Speaker 1: were great. That never happened with Sebastian Bach though, you know, no,
Speaker 1: but he said he stick around. You guys can go home,
Speaker 1: but stick around. I'm gonna screech for you know half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not his style at all. That was another fun one
Speaker 1: with all the with all of Amy's favorite pop stars
Speaker 1: as street troubadors. You know, when when she got them
Speaker 1: all on the show, that was sort of amazing, Uh,
Speaker 1: to have them all around, only half of whom I know,
Speaker 1: being as old as I am, I didn't know who
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Speaker 1: rapid fire? Were we do a thing called rapid fire,
Speaker 1: and fire questions at you, and you gotta answer as
Speaker 1: fast as you can. Here we go, okay, get me
Speaker 1: all right? How do you take your coffee? I don't
Speaker 1: drink coffee. Can you smell snow? Dare you? People say
Speaker 1: to be in the theater? I never drank? Can you?
Speaker 1: Can you? Well? It's good. Can you smell snow? Yes? Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Midwest. I know it's are
Speaker 1: you team Logan, team Jesser team Dean? Hard to say,
Speaker 1: like I said, I knew those two guys much better,
Speaker 1: so I guess I'd have to say Logan. I like
Speaker 1: Tim a lot. I thought he was the real deal.
Speaker 1: Who's the daddy in what situation? That's that's the thing
Speaker 1: that shifts, wouldn't you say? I the Rory's baby. Rory's
Speaker 1: baby at the end of the the Netflix thing, she's pregnant.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wonder if they know. You don't know.
Speaker 1: You can't speculate, you don't want to speculate. I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I wanted to leave it mysterious. I like that. CLIFFP. Hager.
Speaker 1: Maybe it means we'll all be back chance graduation from
Speaker 1: High school or something. Best memory of Gilmore Girls, Well,
Speaker 1: she's so hard to say. I just loved starting, I
Speaker 1: loved coming. But you know what was great was coming
Speaker 1: back for the reboot and everybody knew how long the
Speaker 1: shoot was going to be, so there was none of
Speaker 1: that my god, will we ever be finished with this?
Speaker 1: And I think that was great for you guys who
Speaker 1: were always there. But when we came back for that,
Speaker 1: it was like a reunion and everybody was free and
Speaker 1: loose and knew they were only going to be doing
Speaker 1: it for three months. Everybody was wild about being employed again,
Speaker 1: you know, on a on a place that was such
Speaker 1: wonderful work to do. You know, it was a pleasure
Speaker 1: to look forward to going to a show that was good.
Speaker 1: You know that we were on a show that had quality,
Speaker 1: and because you know, we all did bits on other
Speaker 1: shows where it was like, oh God, thank god, I'm
Speaker 1: not on this week after week after week. You know,
Speaker 1: was I'd love to be on this week after week
Speaker 1: after week when I could do it. So that was
Speaker 1: a great way when coming back for that, that was
Speaker 1: a it was a big deal, um show that you're
Speaker 1: binge watching right now. I just got done with Hacks
Speaker 1: I watched Hacks. That was the last one. What happened
Speaker 1: to me is I've only had a smart TV for
Speaker 1: a few months and when I got it, I got
Speaker 1: Turner Classic movies again, which I had not had on
Speaker 1: my other one for three years. So I am now
Speaker 1: up to my ears in old movies and I haven't
Speaker 1: been watching streaming things. But I did watch Hacks because
Speaker 1: I like her and i'd heard it was good. And
Speaker 1: she used to work in Seattle before um team Smart
Speaker 1: who was the main the main person in that, and
Speaker 1: so a lot of people I know in town know
Speaker 1: her and they all said, oh, you should she Sacks
Speaker 1: Hacks because she's really great. And I had just seen
Speaker 1: Mayor of Easttown she just got done doing and she
Speaker 1: was so fabulous in that. So so that was my
Speaker 1: last That was my last big binge uh cast member
Speaker 1: you texted most recently, UM, well you for this, But
Speaker 1: before that, who would it be? Well, um, um cast member,
Speaker 1: not a cast member, but Valerie Campbell who hooked me
Speaker 1: up with this woman named tarn in New Zealand who
Speaker 1: has already written a big encyclopedia book about Gilmore Girls,
Speaker 1: and she's writing a new one now and she wanted to.
Speaker 1: She wanted to talk to me, and Valerie hooked us up.
Speaker 1: So val and I were trading uh emails. Alright, Valerie,
Speaker 1: it is one word to describe Gilmore Girls. Sweet good.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the creepy clown pillow? I shan't explain.
Speaker 1: I shan't explain it, um, which is something on the show.
Speaker 1: It was a pillow that that's in laulized living room.
Speaker 1: Because you know what, we keep caring it. We're working,
Speaker 1: we're a little bit well, some people on the show
Speaker 1: are a little bit obsessed with it and they want
Speaker 1: to spot it in every episode and we're it. Oh,
Speaker 1: well I can I can understand that. Well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to look for Michael. It's been a pleasure. So see
Speaker 1: you again. Good to see um. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I are raising our son.
Speaker 1: He's seven now, and he's he's seven and he's in
Speaker 1: second grade, and and you know, we're just we're just
Speaker 1: living a normal life, you know, and that is great.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, and it's good to see you.
Speaker 1: To my friend. I hope we get to work again
Speaker 1: soon on something, if it's not Gilmore Girls. Something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: any place. You're one of the people who just made
Speaker 1: it a homey place to be. Well you too, but
Speaker 1: I thinkes place to go to work. I loved it,
Speaker 1: and I've always been very fond of you. Thanks a lot,
Speaker 1: and thanks for asking me to do this. We'll have
Speaker 1: you back on. You're the best. Do Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: get farther into the seat. I forgot to. Amy had
Speaker 1: left me a thing saying, look at this episode, and
Speaker 1: I just didn't do it. I forgot to do it.
Speaker 1: So if it happens again, let me get a leg
Speaker 1: up on it, because I haven't watched them all for years.
Speaker 1: It will Well, we'll be in touch for sure. It
Speaker 1: was really fun and God knows I don't have all
Speaker 1: that much to do, so my time is free. Thanks God,
Speaker 1: Thanks Amy to take care buddy. Yeah, the best talk
Speaker 1: to Oh my god, he is so lovely. I literally
Speaker 1: was texting Danielle going, this guy is so great. He's
Speaker 1: such impeach literally impeach. Just a total class act. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you know, he was a kind of guy. He
Speaker 1: was such a professional. Uh. And everybody knew we had
Speaker 1: this tight schedule and he was always doing a play. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he would, you know, have to really put together,
Speaker 1: you know, his hit a tent dialogue to do and
Speaker 1: rapid fire, and he always came to the set fully off, book,
Speaker 1: fully prepared, hotly professional. It was amazing. It was just amazing.
Speaker 1: He's an acting machine and he's so good at it.
Speaker 1: In doing this, every single person that we have spoken
Speaker 1: to loved making this show and and they want to
Speaker 1: come on with you, And we have so many more
Speaker 1: people coming up, and it's like that means something. So
Speaker 1: it's like, we love watching this show, and all of
Speaker 1: you loved making it. It's really touching. We knew that
Speaker 1: we were in something very very unique. We did, and
Speaker 1: it didn't take long for us to realize it. I
Speaker 1: mean I realized that the minute I read the script
Speaker 1: before the first audition, UM, that it was very very special,
Speaker 1: And I mean I don't think anybody could have predicted
Speaker 1: what it would become what it has become, but we
Speaker 1: knew that it was very high quality, uh, and that
Speaker 1: we were very lucky to be involved in it, UM
Speaker 1: because it would have been very easy not to cast us,
Speaker 1: you know, UM, thank god they did UM. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's we really miss because we've all had
Speaker 1: experiences prior and especially after the show with other productions,
Speaker 1: and they fall well short of how that show was run,
Speaker 1: the people involved, the quality of the writing and and
Speaker 1: and the actors, and it was just it was just wonderful.
Speaker 1: It was just a wonderful experience. Yeah, you would hope
Speaker 1: that something like that could go on forever and ever
Speaker 1: and ever. But maybe that's what it makes it so
Speaker 1: special is that it had was it lasted a finite
Speaker 1: period of time that will be forever be frozen and
Speaker 1: the emotional memory banks of the planet Earth. I think
Speaker 1: it does mean a lot to people that love the show.
Speaker 1: How much you guys loved doing it. Yeah, it's really contagious.
Speaker 1: And then you're just like, oh, it makes me love
Speaker 1: it more, you know. You know what they don't see
Speaker 1: is and a lot of them do know, Uh, the
Speaker 1: road that it the road that we were on to
Speaker 1: get to that point in our careers where we had
Speaker 1: a shot at something like that. And then you find
Speaker 1: yourself in in the belly of the beast, as it were.
Speaker 1: I mean, there you are, you know, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: ten years prior, you know, I was in New York
Speaker 1: and I was sweating it out man and doing off
Speaker 1: Broadway theater and off off Broadway theater and acting classes
Speaker 1: and no money and hustling and you know, working jobs
Speaker 1: till five am and and just really trying to make
Speaker 1: things happen, and auditioning for agents and getting rejected, and
Speaker 1: you know, going on commercial auditions and getting rejected, and
Speaker 1: every once in a while you get one and you
Speaker 1: could eat for a couple of months. And you know,
Speaker 1: there was a time where I was eating. I could
Speaker 1: not afford Kraft macaroni and cheese because it was cents
Speaker 1: a box. I had to go for Springfield because it
Speaker 1: was like thirty three cents of box, and then maybe
Speaker 1: I'd steal a potato. And I think everybody's been there,
Speaker 1: and it was just like you're you're just but you
Speaker 1: love what you do, you believe in what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Um and then here you are. You find yourself with
Speaker 1: people that you admire and respect, and you're on this
Speaker 1: show and the critics love it and the network loves it.
Speaker 1: And limousines and then the parties and then this then
Speaker 1: the celebrities that you meet, because we didn't feel like celebrities.
Speaker 1: I mean we were, but we didn't feel like it.
Speaker 1: We felt like the new people. You know that got
Speaker 1: invited to the party somehow, and we didn't belong. I
Speaker 1: remember the first I went to the to a Golden
Speaker 1: Globe party before after the Golden Globes in like two
Speaker 1: thousand or two thousand and one, and I saw, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw the most stunning, stunning looking woman I ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life. And it was Charlie's there on
Speaker 1: and she was surrounded by a gaggle of like short
Speaker 1: handlers and here she was the statue istue like queen
Speaker 1: of the Amazonian beauty of a human being. And it
Speaker 1: was shocking. And I was like, I was with the unique.
Speaker 1: I was, I think I was with you unique and uh.
Speaker 1: And we just stared at her, like, good lord, what
Speaker 1: are we doing in this room? We are not worthy?
Speaker 1: And Pacino was over there and this it's like so
Speaker 1: we felt like you know, kids in a candy store. Um.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, we all struggled. We all came from
Speaker 1: you know, very humble beginnings. I think, uh, And I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, even if Herman were alive to tell his story,
Speaker 1: you know what he went through in New York too
Speaker 1: to get in to get to the level that he
Speaker 1: got to. Yeah, I mean everybody has their story and
Speaker 1: it's just and you here you are and you're making money,
Speaker 1: and you buy a house and you're going on vacations
Speaker 1: and you and people want to phtograph and it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. Well, that's like Michael saying he bought
Speaker 1: that house that he's in now because of Gilmore Girl's money.
Speaker 1: And that was like wow, and he he doesn't take
Speaker 1: it for granted. If it feels like everyone that we've
Speaker 1: had on appreciate show. So I stayed in my ice
Speaker 1: had a little studio apartment in West Hollywood. I stayed
Speaker 1: in there for the first three years of the show.
Speaker 1: I was afraid to buy a house. And my account
Speaker 1: is like, you need to buy a house now. I said, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to buy a house. I like where
Speaker 1: I am. I'm I'm used to this. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't I didn't want to come out
Speaker 1: of my cave. Um, I've been there for so long.
Speaker 1: And he said, well, you have a decision to make.
Speaker 1: You either have to buy a house or you have
Speaker 1: to write the government a check for this amount of money.
Speaker 1: If you don't, I said, let's buy a house. So
Speaker 1: I was kind of forced to do it. And it's
Speaker 1: a it's a nice position to be in, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I never ever thought I would be able to afford
Speaker 1: a home, especially in l A. And uh and even
Speaker 1: back then home prices were high. But yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just a wild it's like. And then you think
Speaker 1: of that, you know, I think of those early years
Speaker 1: a lot, when I when I first started studying in
Speaker 1: New York and the craziness of that city and how
Speaker 1: wonderful all those experiences were. But all of the work
Speaker 1: that you put in and then there you are, You're
Speaker 1: working with a Michael Winters in a candy shop and
Speaker 1: lighten it up and it's like, wow, you know, all
Speaker 1: the training pays off, all the years, all the blood,
Speaker 1: sweat and tears are just paying off, and and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a strange profession, you know.
Speaker 1: It's a it's feast or famine, and we we definitely
Speaker 1: feasted for for seven years. And then you see the
Speaker 1: craft service table and it's just filled with food and
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm going to go over there home.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. You know, I hadn't I hadn't worked
Speaker 1: in a couple of years after Gilmore was over. And
Speaker 1: then I did a couple of episodes of I did
Speaker 1: something while I was working in independent films, and you know,
Speaker 1: they don't have huge budgets for craft service or food
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I mean they do what they can.
Speaker 1: They're great about it, but um. And then I did
Speaker 1: a couple episodes. I did an arc on nine O
Speaker 1: two one oh and drove down to Manhattan Beach where
Speaker 1: they're filming in these oh yeah, the new one, the
Speaker 1: new nine two one oh yeah on the c W. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: these great studios down in Manhattan Beach. And I walked
Speaker 1: onto the sound stage and it was like something out
Speaker 1: of a sci fi film. It was so large and
Speaker 1: so clean and so high tech. And the craft service
Speaker 1: table was like the stadium full of food. I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything I get it in my life. And I thought,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I forgot how good network television was. Man,
Speaker 1: they really feed you. Yeah, we don't have that at
Speaker 1: I Heeart. You get like a bag of weird oreos
Speaker 1: and you're lucky weird. Yeah. Like those mini orio they
Speaker 1: are not even like the full size and there that's
Speaker 1: wrongs them up and you go that's just wrong. I
Speaker 1: cannot dunk that. Look at how how lucky you are now,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Michael is a
Speaker 1: real deal. He's like super professional and just gracious and
Speaker 1: grateful and and such a great actor to work with. Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think he carried me more
Speaker 1: times than I'm willing to admit in scenes because his
Speaker 1: timing is so good. And um, I remember one time
Speaker 1: I was really tired and I just couldn't deliver the
Speaker 1: kind of energy that the scene needed, and he just,
Speaker 1: you know, he had a little talk with me and
Speaker 1: he told me he was there for me. That's all
Speaker 1: he did. He said, you know what, I'm here for
Speaker 1: you man. You know, he was just offering support. He
Speaker 1: knew I was struggling a little bit because I had
Speaker 1: this sort of rapid fire monologue, you know, and how
Speaker 1: to really get through it, and I just wasn't getting it.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, God, am I going to
Speaker 1: be able to do this? And he just took me
Speaker 1: a sign. He said, you know what, because you're doing great.
Speaker 1: You're doing great. No, he says, I know how tired
Speaker 1: you are. I know what the schedules like sometimes and
Speaker 1: he says, you know what, but you know you wouldn't
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be here if they didn't believe in you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you can, you can,
Speaker 1: you can do this in your sleep. And I just
Speaker 1: gave me a little lift and we kind of held
Speaker 1: the scene and he's just a lovely guy, lovely team
Speaker 1: logan because so am Yeah. Well that's the one black
Speaker 1: mark against him, all right. Uh So anyway, that was
Speaker 1: the illustrious, lovely, talented professional actor, the real deal, the
Speaker 1: real raw deal. Michael Winter's to a k A. Taylor
Speaker 1: dosy uh and we're gonna have him back on. What
Speaker 1: a great interview. Love the guy. I love you, Michael,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Let's dive into pop culture, guys.
Speaker 1: Riley take it away. I'm Riley and this is your
Speaker 1: pop culture. So first we have Laura La looking looking
Speaker 1: like she's having so much trouble in the kitchen and
Speaker 1: she says, I want to arrange things on a plate
Speaker 1: so we look like a pretty little hat. I want
Speaker 1: to be an iron chef. So Iron Chef was a
Speaker 1: Japanese cooking show from two thousand two. The show was
Speaker 1: recreated in America on the Food Network from two thousand
Speaker 1: five to two thousand eighteen, And there are actually eight
Speaker 1: hundred pounds of food stocked in the pantry for each
Speaker 1: episode for the chefs to use, and there's a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds of dry ice pumped through the studio
Speaker 1: for the filming, so the fog can create dramatic moments,
Speaker 1: and finally, the schedule can be grueling with back to
Speaker 1: back battles. The Food Network shoots twenty six episodes in
Speaker 1: just three weeks. Next we have um Tristan is making
Speaker 1: out with the girl against the locker and he quotes
Speaker 1: uh Sonnet forty three by Elizabeth Barrett Browning and when
Speaker 1: he says, ah to be young and in love, and
Speaker 1: Paris says, what a shame. Elizabeth Barrett Browning wasn't here
Speaker 1: to witness this. She put her head through the wall.
Speaker 1: So Elizabeth was a poet and the eldest of twelve children.
Speaker 1: She battled an illness her whole life that doctors at
Speaker 1: the time could not diagnose, and her family made a
Speaker 1: fortune from Jamaican sugar plantations. Colonialists. So Laura La talks
Speaker 1: to Rory about the way Luke and Rachel are acting
Speaker 1: in the diner. You could tell they were still in love.
Speaker 1: And by the way they looked at each other. Luke
Speaker 1: was stuttering and Rachel was staring deeply into his eyes.
Speaker 1: And Laura La says, and he's looking at her like
Speaker 1: she's Miss September, and she's looking at him like he's
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. So at the time of the episode in
Speaker 1: two thousand one, Johnny Depp was known for his iconic
Speaker 1: roles in Edward Scissor Hands and Chockole Lot. Hang on,
Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt here, I have to interject here
Speaker 1: is I want to take a poll with you ladies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm gonna ask. He's all that
Speaker 1: a bag of chips, right, Johnny Depp is like beyond
Speaker 1: beyond right, Yes, yeah, okay, I would say up until
Speaker 1: like but yes, And he's got himself into a few
Speaker 1: pickles lately. So it's kind of like, but I've heard
Speaker 1: there's been some controversy. Um, but I love the one
Speaker 1: jump Street Johnny Depp the most. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: met him. I met him backstage at a Patti Smith
Speaker 1: concert a couple of years ago in downtown l A.
Speaker 1: He was with he was with Joe Perry, he was with.
Speaker 1: It's quite a story telling it here, but I did
Speaker 1: make had lots of bodyguards outside. Was he nice though?
Speaker 1: Was he nice? Yeah? He was all that and a
Speaker 1: bag of chips, so much that he was named sexiest
Speaker 1: Man Alive two years, two thousand three and two thousand nine.
Speaker 1: But he's best no own for his role as Captain
Speaker 1: Jack Sparrow on Pirates of the Caribbean from two thousand
Speaker 1: three to two thousand seventeen. And it is a little
Speaker 1: known fact that Johnny Depp appeared on a Nightmare on
Speaker 1: Elm Street in nine four. He got murdered by Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 1: Remember it got like sucked into the bed and murdered.
Speaker 1: What a nightmare on Elm Street. Rory says to Dean
Speaker 1: she would be relocated in a plastic bubble if she
Speaker 1: misses dinner for their three month anniversary, and Rory says, well,
Speaker 1: that special occasion better include my being relocated to a
Speaker 1: plastic bubble if my grandmother is gonna let me out
Speaker 1: of the dinner. So this is in reference to The
Speaker 1: Boy in the Plastic Bubble, a nineteen seventy six drama
Speaker 1: film starring John Travolta inspired by the Life the Lives
Speaker 1: of David vetteran Ted Da Vita. During filming, twenty two
Speaker 1: year old John Travolta and forty year old Diana Highland
Speaker 1: began dating and fell in love. Sadly, Diana passed in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven of cancer, and then in John's wife
Speaker 1: Kelly Preston passed a cancer as well. Jake Jillenhall also
Speaker 1: played a boy in a plastic bubble in the two
Speaker 1: thousand one comedy Bubble Boy. It's a lot of bubbles.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of bubbles. Run Roy says. Dean is
Speaker 1: taking her to a fancy restaurant for the anniversary. There's
Speaker 1: an iconic scene in the animated film Lady in a
Speaker 1: Tramp where Tramp pushes the meat ball with his nose
Speaker 1: and the lady uh he and Lady Sheriff strand of spaghetti.
Speaker 1: Laura Lai says, Wow, it's going to be just like
Speaker 1: Lady in the Tramp. You'll share a plate of spaghetti,
Speaker 1: but it'll it'll be just one strand. But you won't
Speaker 1: realize it until you actually meet in the middle. Animated
Speaker 1: romance film produced by Walt Disney. Animators use their own
Speaker 1: faces as a reference for the characters, and Tramp was
Speaker 1: first called Homer, then Rags and Bozo, even though the
Speaker 1: canine was referred to as Tramp. Laura Lai says, oh god,
Speaker 1: this is where the Misery reference comes in. Get ready, Amy,
Speaker 1: Oh God, mom has gone a little crazy with the
Speaker 1: figurines here, huh, a little Cathy Bates. Although you probably
Speaker 1: haven't seen Misery, which is a good thing, because Rory
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep for a week after she watched it. Do
Speaker 1: you remember from Missouri when James Cohn's character Like gets
Speaker 1: out and then he accidentally knocks the figurine, but he
Speaker 1: catches it and he puts it back up. But she
Speaker 1: was some cuckoo that she knew the direction it faced,
Speaker 1: and so that's how she caught him get out of
Speaker 1: the cocka duty car. That movie was so so good. Oh,
Speaker 1: very very funny. Genius reference to genius. So for those
Speaker 1: of us that don't know. Miseries an American psychological thriller
Speaker 1: novel written by Stephen King and made into a horror
Speaker 1: film in nine. Cathy Bates actually won the Oscar in
Speaker 1: for her role as the terrifying Annie Wilkes. The original
Speaker 1: inspiration for King's novel came from a nightmare he had
Speaker 1: while flying, and Jack Nicholson was offered the leading role
Speaker 1: of Paul Sheldon. However, he had such a difficult EXPERI
Speaker 1: riants filming the Shining. He didn't want to do another
Speaker 1: King adaptation. And who can actually watch the horrific ankle
Speaker 1: scene without cringing? I cannot, I cover my eyes. But
Speaker 1: interesting tidbit about Jack Nicholson, I might be the only
Speaker 1: one that stood up and applauded during that scene. Oh,
Speaker 1: that movie was so good. Chase was explaining to Lorela.
Speaker 1: He grew up around the corner and the names of
Speaker 1: his dover min's were Leopold and lobe So Nathan Leopold
Speaker 1: and Richard Loebe were famous killers who were convicted of
Speaker 1: the kidnapped and murder of a young boy in Chicago.
Speaker 1: The Rope was American psychological crime thriller film directed by
Speaker 1: Alfred Hitchcock, loosely based on the famous Killers, and the
Speaker 1: film provided industry first since it took place in real time,
Speaker 1: which is also crazy creepy that his dogs were named
Speaker 1: after killers. Paris is trying to get to a locker
Speaker 1: and Rory refers to the girl Tristan is making out
Speaker 1: with as Belle Lotley, Paris says, yep, right behind Bell Watley.
Speaker 1: Bell Watley was a prostitute and later the madam of
Speaker 1: one of several houses in Atlanta's Red Light District. From
Speaker 1: Gone with the Wind, Gone with the Wind was a
Speaker 1: ninety nine American epic historical romance film adapted from the
Speaker 1: six novel by Margaret Mitchell. Margaret Mitchell actually wrote Gone
Speaker 1: with the Wind out of boredom and had no intention
Speaker 1: of publishing the book. Lastly, we have laurel Ized having
Speaker 1: a nervous conversation with Richard and he tells her to
Speaker 1: just sit down and put her hands in her lap.
Speaker 1: Emily comes in and asked if they're having a good
Speaker 1: conversation and Laura la says, yeah, we're having a great conversation,
Speaker 1: me and Maury. So this is in reference to Tuesdays
Speaker 1: with Marie, a memoir by American author Mitch Album about
Speaker 1: a series of visits Album made to his former sociology
Speaker 1: professor Maury Schwartz as he slowly passes from a l s.
Speaker 1: Morey's final days are spent giving his former student Mitch
Speaker 1: his final lesson of life and discuss various topics important
Speaker 1: to life and living. The book was adapted into directed
Speaker 1: by Mick Jackson, and then into a play That's it
Speaker 1: for pop culture. Wonderful. A round of applause. Yeah, well done, Riley,
Speaker 1: that's hard work. Well, thank you very much. Okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: we're back. I'm Scott Patterson. This is the I Am
Speaker 1: All In Podcast with I Heart Radio, one of leven productions.
Speaker 1: We are going to get into favorite lines here we go.
Speaker 1: We are often running with favorite lines. Amy your first. Okay.
Speaker 1: So they're at dinner with the guy Chase, and he says,
Speaker 1: are you in the d a r And Laurel says
Speaker 1: d A r in? And she says, boy, these carrots
Speaker 1: sure are tiny, and then she stabs the d A
Speaker 1: r in and they're all looking at her like so good,
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, Riley, you're on Mind's from Laura Lay
Speaker 1: and she's talking Luke and she says, hey, tomorrow, if
Speaker 1: you have time, I'm planning on despising everyone who says says, hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going? M hm, Danielle. My favorite line is
Speaker 1: after Dean professes his love to Rory, she goes, I
Speaker 1: I love the car Scott, Uh, you stole Amy, you
Speaker 1: stole my favorite line. She had some really good ones,
Speaker 1: some really good ones. But yeah, I really enjoyed that
Speaker 1: d A. R. And the tiny I thought that was
Speaker 1: a wonderful little piece of acting right there, because that's
Speaker 1: all you know, that's that's where you show your comedy chops.
Speaker 1: It's like, not a lot of people can do that.
Speaker 1: I agree, that would be hard. It's hard all that,
Speaker 1: all those little subtleties and pauses and inflections and how
Speaker 1: to use your props in the whole thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just it was just wonderful to watch. You
Speaker 1: have to nail it. Yeah, Yeah, it's really funny. Just uh,
Speaker 1: it's disconnected yet linked altogether and it flows beautifully. So, Riley,
Speaker 1: what episode is after this one? We still have more
Speaker 1: to talk about. We need to turn this into a
Speaker 1: two parter. But Riley, what episode are we all watching
Speaker 1: for next? Next week? We have episode seventeen, The Breakup
Speaker 1: Part two. Hi everybody. Uh, that's it for the star
Speaker 1: Cross Lovers and other strangers. And that was episode sixteen.
Speaker 1: And thanks for downloading, And we're gonna see you next week.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna do a mini Uh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna follow with a mini discussion about the remainder
Speaker 1: of this episode because we got into a little bit
Speaker 1: and that was fun. Uh, this is one of the
Speaker 1: better episodes to to dissect. But we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: it a little more with this additional episode that we'll
Speaker 1: I guess we'll drop in the middle of a week
Speaker 1: or something like that. Uh, you know how we do it. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: all the best, loved, everybody, stay safe. I'm Gott Patterson
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