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Speaker 1: I Am all in, will kiss You. I Am all

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Speaker 1: In with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: We're back with another episode. I'm Scott Patterson and this

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Speaker 1: is the I Am all In Podcast with our Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and one eleven productions. Star Crossed Lovers and Other

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Speaker 1: Strangers that perhaps got soft and got but hurt like

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Speaker 1: Dane did when he got blown up by the saucy

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Speaker 1: blue eyes from that innocent Gilmore Rory who did not

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Speaker 1: respond to his I Love you Riley. If you could

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Speaker 1: give us the synopsis for the episode, please. This is

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Speaker 1: episode sixteen star cross Lovers and Other Strangers, Air date

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Speaker 1: March eighth, two thousand one. Emily agrees to let Rory

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Speaker 1: miss the weekly dinner so she can celebrate her three

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Speaker 1: month anniversary with Dean. Elsewhere, the town prepares for a

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Speaker 1: festival that celebrates the founding of Stars Hollow. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: what happened to Dean? I mean, in in in what

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Speaker 1: twelve episodes he goes from like, I'm from Chicago. I'm

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Speaker 1: not from here. Hey, come on over here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: kiss you in the cabbage section in front of everybody,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know I'm talking to your mom, And

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Speaker 1: now is at my turn to speak, and hey, let's

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Speaker 1: watch Boogie Nights. What what happened to that guy? And

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's sitting in his junkie car

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Speaker 1: that he's building for this girlfriend that's never got a

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Speaker 1: m V. And he says, and he says, I love you,

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Speaker 1: I love you, And at big mats of ball hanging

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Speaker 1: biggest mats of ball hanging out there I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: on television. And then she just but but her face,

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Speaker 1: that's sweet innocent, sixteen year old face with those blue

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Speaker 1: eyes like open wide, like how's waiting for her to

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Speaker 1: say thank you? Thank you? Oh oh, that's a big

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Speaker 1: swing and a miss for Dean. I mean, I've been there,

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Speaker 1: I've been that guy. It's happened to me. It's not

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Speaker 1: that's how But that's that personality, that guy. He was

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Speaker 1: so humiliated. Dean was so humiliated he had no other

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Speaker 1: choice but to save face. Right, just shows you he's

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Speaker 1: not the guy for her. Right, he's not cool, calm

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Speaker 1: and collected that he came. I see, I knew it.

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Speaker 1: That tough guy act. It's it's all, it's just an act.

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Speaker 1: He's just a softie underneath. And if he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: sitting in a junkie corvet going I love you? Is

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Speaker 1: it's like raft, yeah, and you and she was completely

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Speaker 1: this is moving very quickly? Three boy? I tell you

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Speaker 1: She's a Gilmore. Yeah. It's like, listen, man, we're in

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Speaker 1: It's not Darth Vader, but it's kind of the Darth

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Speaker 1: Vader of stars Hollow. Mr Taylor Dozy of Dozie's Market.

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Speaker 1: Michael Winters, the the incomparable, the brilliant Michael Winters is

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Speaker 1: waiting in the wings. I cannot wait to talk with him.

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Speaker 1: up and rid the prairie with Taylor Dozy. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I'm Scott Patterson. This is I am All In podcast.

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio will be right back after these words

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Speaker 1: with Michael Winters, Ladies and gentlemen. Michael Winters is in

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Speaker 1: the waiting room. He's in the green room eating lollipops

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Speaker 1: and striped candies and caramels. And I how are you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 1: Where are you from? Where you where in Seattle? You're

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Speaker 1: I want to start from the beginning. Beginning. There's a

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Speaker 1: Kristen and Boulder, Colorado. Boulder. I spent a summer in Boulder.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the boxes. We never actually dealt with them.

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00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: Was mostly in background. If anything had to be packed

426
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: in a sack or you know, anybody was checking out

427
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: or anything, then that was much more likely to be real.

428
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: But you couldn't grab an apple and eat it. I

429
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: don't think you would very careful about that. Um So

430
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: here's a question. This is one of my questions. You know,

431
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: it's too thousand twenty one. We did the reboot five

432
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: years ago. Where do you think? Because I always think

433
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, when I was preparing the

434
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: two rebot, where you know, where's Luke Ben? Where is

435
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: he now? That kind of thing? Where's Taylor? Does he

436
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: in two one? What is he doing right now? Uh? Boy?

437
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: Probably if he can get away with it exactly what

438
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: he's always done. You know, maybe he is mayor maybe

439
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: he uh maybe he does run for mayor in fact,

440
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: he runs for you know, there's a one episode which

441
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: has some very fun stuff in it. I think where

442
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: I ran for Ambudsman. Uh, Who's a sort of a

443
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: voice for the people, not the mayor, but somebody who

444
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: could bring up problems and difficulties with the people who

445
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: actually run the town, even though I felt like I

446
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: was running the town. Um and and Laura I decided

447
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: that I just wanted out of hand. There was no

448
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: there never was any opposition. I just sort of got

449
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: the job every year. So she decided, no, I'm going

450
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: to and she got she got somebody to run against me,

451
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: and I can't remember who it was, but of course

452
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to get rid of the Taylor, so he

453
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: was winning. And then and and uh. One of my

454
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: favorite moments in the entire series for me, my fun

455
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: moment was by that time, they had opened that window

456
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: up between the diner and the sweet shop, My Sweet Shop,

457
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: so you could see from the diner into the sweet Shop.

458
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, you and Laurel I

459
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: were talking in the diner about the election and looked

460
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: over and saw me sitting at the at the counter

461
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: in My Sweet Shop with the lights off, looking very

462
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: dejected because I was about to lose this election. And uh,

463
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: and at one point I picked up a can of

464
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: ready whip and just sprayed a mouthful of it in

465
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: my mouth to make itself a better And she felt

466
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: so bad about that that she turned it around and

467
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, sort of put the kai bosh on whoever

468
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: it was she was getting to run against me, and

469
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: I want again anyway, I'm I can only imagine that

470
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Taylor is just finding new ways to annoy everybody in town.

471
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't mean to annoy them, but he just has

472
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: big ideas and great possibilities. If everyone would just understand

473
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: how right he was, you know, so my bad. He's

474
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. I don't imagine he every time.

475
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I can't imagine taking a vacation, like taking a cruise

476
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: or anything like that, because who knows what would happen

477
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: in his absence. What are the memories you have of

478
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 1: the two of us getting into trouble, Well, mostly our

479
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: trouble was with each other, wasn't it? Uh trying to

480
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: get things done and uh and uh just butting up,

481
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: betting heads against each other. Yeah, there were no high

482
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: jinks off set. We were definitely not that kind of

483
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: It's not like we you and I after shooting him

484
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: was finished, we go grab a drink and get into

485
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: bar fights or anything like that. We didn't do that.

486
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: Oh you mean you and me, not Taylor and Luke. No, no,

487
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I think they've mean Taylor and Luke. Yeah, yeah, no,

488
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I can't imagine Taylor going to the bar.

489
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Everybody would have kicked him out if he had tried

490
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: to go, because he wouldn't been able to go in

491
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: and just sit down and have a drink. He'd be

492
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: bugging everybody about his Lady project. So I think if

493
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: he ever went, he'd go home and drink alone. You know,

494
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: maybe he'd have a bottle of wine or something. So

495
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: what is your absolute favorite memory of the show? Wow,

496
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: the Ready Whip as the one I always think of.

497
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I love Um. I had to ride a horse and

498
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: we did another sort of Civil War reenactment where I

499
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: had to ride a horse, just ride it into the

500
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: shoot and get off the horse. I didn't even have

501
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: to get on the horse, which was great because I

502
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And I was in this huge uniform

503
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: with a sordinary thing, and that was fun. And they

504
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: sent me out because I am not used to horses.

505
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: They sent me out to a ranch way the hell

506
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: out in the valley to work with the guy who

507
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: was the horse wrangler, and he was very very helpful

508
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: and help me get on and ride, and I rode

509
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: around a whole bunch that day, just around a corral,

510
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, so if the whole event was really really fun,

511
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: and I remember that that being great. Um. My favorite

512
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: moments often were the town meetings because Liz and I

513
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: were would sit up on that dias and not do

514
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: anything most of the day, just throw the lines in,

515
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: you know. We wouldn't even get dressed, we'd get makeup

516
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: on and just sit around in our street clothes and talk.

517
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: And and she was so full of starters. She knew

518
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: and had worked with everybody. And we had a thing

519
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: we do where um um, somebody would start singing a song,

520
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, because she was a singer, and uh we

521
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: sing old saloon songs, you know, famous old standards, but

522
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: none of us knew neither of us knew all the lyrics.

523
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: So one of the others would start and do three lines,

524
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: and then the other person would try to remember the

525
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: next three lines. It was just this endless game, and

526
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: I love that. I loved the day that Carol King

527
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: was there and did that was the reboot again, I think,

528
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: And we worked all day and she was fantastic. We

529
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: had we had great fun and worked all day on

530
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: that one scene because it was all of us in

531
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: a circle and so everybody had to get there their

532
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: separate shots. And at the end of the day, you know,

533
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: everybody was starting ready to go home, and she said, well,

534
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you can all go home if you want, but I'm

535
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: just gonna stay round and play the piano. If anybody

536
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: wants to stay, that's fine. And she did half hour

537
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: at that beat up, old out of tune piano and

538
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: nobody left. Everybody stayed, and that was a high point.

539
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: That was just so amazing, so great. I heard about that.

540
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I wish I was there. It was sublime. Those things

541
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: were great. That never happened with Sebastian Bach though, you know, no,

542
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: but he said he stick around. You guys can go home,

543
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: but stick around. I'm gonna screech for you know half. Yeah,

544
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: not his style at all. That was another fun one

545
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: with all the with all of Amy's favorite pop stars

546
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: as street troubadors. You know, when when she got them

547
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: all on the show, that was sort of amazing, Uh,

548
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: to have them all around, only half of whom I know,

549
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,920
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Speaker 1: fast as you can. Here we go, okay, get me

574
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: all right? How do you take your coffee? I don't

575
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: drink coffee. Can you smell snow? Dare you? People say

576
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: to be in the theater? I never drank? Can you?

577
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Can you? Well? It's good. Can you smell snow? Yes? Oh? Absolutely?

578
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Midwest. I know it's are

579
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: you team Logan, team Jesser team Dean? Hard to say,

580
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I knew those two guys much better,

581
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: so I guess I'd have to say Logan. I like

582
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Tim a lot. I thought he was the real deal.

583
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Who's the daddy in what situation? That's that's the thing

584
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: that shifts, wouldn't you say? I the Rory's baby. Rory's

585
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: baby at the end of the the Netflix thing, she's pregnant.

586
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wonder if they know. You don't know.

587
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: You can't speculate, you don't want to speculate. I don't

588
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: want to. I wanted to leave it mysterious. I like that. CLIFFP. Hager.

589
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it means we'll all be back chance graduation from

590
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: High school or something. Best memory of Gilmore Girls, Well,

591
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: she's so hard to say. I just loved starting, I

592
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: loved coming. But you know what was great was coming

593
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: back for the reboot and everybody knew how long the

594
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: shoot was going to be, so there was none of

595
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: that my god, will we ever be finished with this?

596
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: And I think that was great for you guys who

597
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: were always there. But when we came back for that,

598
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: it was like a reunion and everybody was free and

599
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: loose and knew they were only going to be doing

600
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: it for three months. Everybody was wild about being employed again,

601
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, on a on a place that was such

602
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: wonderful work to do. You know, it was a pleasure

603
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: to look forward to going to a show that was good.

604
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: You know that we were on a show that had quality,

605
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: and because you know, we all did bits on other

606
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: shows where it was like, oh God, thank god, I'm

607
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: not on this week after week after week. You know,

608
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: was I'd love to be on this week after week

609
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: after week when I could do it. So that was

610
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: a great way when coming back for that, that was

611
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: a it was a big deal, um show that you're

612
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: binge watching right now. I just got done with Hacks

613
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: I watched Hacks. That was the last one. What happened

614
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: to me is I've only had a smart TV for

615
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: a few months and when I got it, I got

616
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: Turner Classic movies again, which I had not had on

617
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: my other one for three years. So I am now

618
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: up to my ears in old movies and I haven't

619
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: been watching streaming things. But I did watch Hacks because

620
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: I like her and i'd heard it was good. And

621
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: she used to work in Seattle before um team Smart

622
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: who was the main the main person in that, and

623
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: so a lot of people I know in town know

624
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: her and they all said, oh, you should she Sacks

625
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: Hacks because she's really great. And I had just seen

626
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: Mayor of Easttown she just got done doing and she

627
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: was so fabulous in that. So so that was my

628
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: last That was my last big binge uh cast member

629
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: you texted most recently, UM, well you for this, But

630
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: before that, who would it be? Well, um, um cast member,

631
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: not a cast member, but Valerie Campbell who hooked me

632
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: up with this woman named tarn in New Zealand who

633
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: has already written a big encyclopedia book about Gilmore Girls,

634
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: and she's writing a new one now and she wanted to.

635
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: She wanted to talk to me, and Valerie hooked us up.

636
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: So val and I were trading uh emails. Alright, Valerie,

637
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: it is one word to describe Gilmore Girls. Sweet good.

638
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the creepy clown pillow? I shan't explain.

639
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: I shan't explain it, um, which is something on the show.

640
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: It was a pillow that that's in laulized living room.

641
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: Because you know what, we keep caring it. We're working,

642
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: we're a little bit well, some people on the show

643
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: are a little bit obsessed with it and they want

644
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: to spot it in every episode and we're it. Oh,

645
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: well I can I can understand that. Well, I'm going

646
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: to look for Michael. It's been a pleasure. So see

647
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: you again. Good to see um. You know, I'm just

648
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I are raising our son.

649
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: He's seven now, and he's he's seven and he's in

650
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: second grade, and and you know, we're just we're just

651
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: living a normal life, you know, and that is great.

652
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, and it's good to see you.

653
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: To my friend. I hope we get to work again

654
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: soon on something, if it's not Gilmore Girls. Something, Yeah,

655
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: any place. You're one of the people who just made

656
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: it a homey place to be. Well you too, but

657
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: I thinkes place to go to work. I loved it,

658
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: and I've always been very fond of you. Thanks a lot,

659
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: and thanks for asking me to do this. We'll have

660
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: you back on. You're the best. Do Yeah, when you

661
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: get farther into the seat. I forgot to. Amy had

662
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: left me a thing saying, look at this episode, and

663
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: I just didn't do it. I forgot to do it.

664
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: So if it happens again, let me get a leg

665
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: up on it, because I haven't watched them all for years.

666
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: It will Well, we'll be in touch for sure. It

667
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: was really fun and God knows I don't have all

668
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: that much to do, so my time is free. Thanks God,

669
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Amy to take care buddy. Yeah, the best talk

670
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: to Oh my god, he is so lovely. I literally

671
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: was texting Danielle going, this guy is so great. He's

672
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: such impeach literally impeach. Just a total class act. Yes,

673
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: and you know, he was a kind of guy. He

674
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: was such a professional. Uh. And everybody knew we had

675
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: this tight schedule and he was always doing a play. Uh.

676
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: And he would, you know, have to really put together,

677
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, his hit a tent dialogue to do and

678
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: rapid fire, and he always came to the set fully off, book,

679
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: fully prepared, hotly professional. It was amazing. It was just amazing.

680
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: He's an acting machine and he's so good at it.

681
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: In doing this, every single person that we have spoken

682
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: to loved making this show and and they want to

683
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: come on with you, And we have so many more

684
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: people coming up, and it's like that means something. So

685
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: it's like, we love watching this show, and all of

686
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: you loved making it. It's really touching. We knew that

687
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: we were in something very very unique. We did, and

688
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: it didn't take long for us to realize it. I

689
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: mean I realized that the minute I read the script

690
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: before the first audition, UM, that it was very very special,

691
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: And I mean I don't think anybody could have predicted

692
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: what it would become what it has become, but we

693
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: knew that it was very high quality, uh, and that

694
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: we were very lucky to be involved in it, UM

695
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: because it would have been very easy not to cast us,

696
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, UM, thank god they did UM. But yeah,

697
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: I think that's we really miss because we've all had

698
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: experiences prior and especially after the show with other productions,

699
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: and they fall well short of how that show was run,

700
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: the people involved, the quality of the writing and and

701
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: and the actors, and it was just it was just wonderful.

702
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: It was just a wonderful experience. Yeah, you would hope

703
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: that something like that could go on forever and ever

704
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: and ever. But maybe that's what it makes it so

705
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: special is that it had was it lasted a finite

706
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: period of time that will be forever be frozen and

707
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: the emotional memory banks of the planet Earth. I think

708
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: it does mean a lot to people that love the show.

709
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: How much you guys loved doing it. Yeah, it's really contagious.

710
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: And then you're just like, oh, it makes me love

711
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: it more, you know. You know what they don't see

712
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: is and a lot of them do know, Uh, the

713
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: road that it the road that we were on to

714
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: get to that point in our careers where we had

715
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: a shot at something like that. And then you find

716
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: yourself in in the belly of the beast, as it were.

717
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there you are, you know, you know, maybe

718
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: ten years prior, you know, I was in New York

719
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: and I was sweating it out man and doing off

720
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Broadway theater and off off Broadway theater and acting classes

721
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: and no money and hustling and you know, working jobs

722
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: till five am and and just really trying to make

723
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: things happen, and auditioning for agents and getting rejected, and

724
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, going on commercial auditions and getting rejected, and

725
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: every once in a while you get one and you

726
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: could eat for a couple of months. And you know,

727
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: there was a time where I was eating. I could

728
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: not afford Kraft macaroni and cheese because it was cents

729
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: a box. I had to go for Springfield because it

730
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: was like thirty three cents of box, and then maybe

731
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: I'd steal a potato. And I think everybody's been there,

732
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: and it was just like you're you're just but you

733
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: love what you do, you believe in what you're doing.

734
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: Um and then here you are. You find yourself with

735
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: people that you admire and respect, and you're on this

736
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: show and the critics love it and the network loves it.

737
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: And limousines and then the parties and then this then

738
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: the celebrities that you meet, because we didn't feel like celebrities.

739
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean we were, but we didn't feel like it.

740
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: We felt like the new people. You know that got

741
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: invited to the party somehow, and we didn't belong. I

742
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: remember the first I went to the to a Golden

743
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Globe party before after the Golden Globes in like two

744
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: thousand or two thousand and one, and I saw, you know,

745
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: I saw the most stunning, stunning looking woman I ever

746
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: seen in my life. And it was Charlie's there on

747
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: and she was surrounded by a gaggle of like short

748
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: handlers and here she was the statue istue like queen

749
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: of the Amazonian beauty of a human being. And it

750
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: was shocking. And I was like, I was with the unique.

751
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I was, I think I was with you unique and uh.

752
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: And we just stared at her, like, good lord, what

753
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: are we doing in this room? We are not worthy?

754
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: And Pacino was over there and this it's like so

755
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: we felt like you know, kids in a candy store. Um.

756
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, we all struggled. We all came from

757
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, very humble beginnings. I think, uh, And I think,

758
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, even if Herman were alive to tell his story,

759
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what he went through in New York too

760
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: to get in to get to the level that he

761
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: got to. Yeah, I mean everybody has their story and

762
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: it's just and you here you are and you're making money,

763
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: and you buy a house and you're going on vacations

764
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and you and people want to phtograph and it's like

765
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. Well, that's like Michael saying he bought

766
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: that house that he's in now because of Gilmore Girl's money.

767
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: And that was like wow, and he he doesn't take

768
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: it for granted. If it feels like everyone that we've

769
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: had on appreciate show. So I stayed in my ice

770
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: had a little studio apartment in West Hollywood. I stayed

771
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: in there for the first three years of the show.

772
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: I was afraid to buy a house. And my account

773
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: is like, you need to buy a house now. I said, well,

774
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to buy a house. I like where

775
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: I am. I'm I'm used to this. It's like, you know,

776
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't I didn't want to come out

777
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: of my cave. Um, I've been there for so long.

778
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: And he said, well, you have a decision to make.

779
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: You either have to buy a house or you have

780
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: to write the government a check for this amount of money.

781
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: If you don't, I said, let's buy a house. So

782
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I was kind of forced to do it. And it's

783
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: a it's a nice position to be in, but I mean,

784
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I never ever thought I would be able to afford

785
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: a home, especially in l A. And uh and even

786
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: back then home prices were high. But yeah, it's just

787
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: it's just a wild it's like. And then you think

788
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: of that, you know, I think of those early years

789
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot, when I when I first started studying in

790
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: New York and the craziness of that city and how

791
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: wonderful all those experiences were. But all of the work

792
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: that you put in and then there you are, You're

793
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: working with a Michael Winters in a candy shop and

794
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: lighten it up and it's like, wow, you know, all

795
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: the training pays off, all the years, all the blood,

796
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: sweat and tears are just paying off, and and uh, yeah,

797
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a strange profession, you know.

798
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: It's a it's feast or famine, and we we definitely

799
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: feasted for for seven years. And then you see the

800
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: craft service table and it's just filled with food and

801
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm going to go over there home.

802
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. You know, I hadn't I hadn't worked

803
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: in a couple of years after Gilmore was over. And

804
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: then I did a couple of episodes of I did

805
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: something while I was working in independent films, and you know,

806
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: they don't have huge budgets for craft service or food

807
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I mean they do what they can.

808
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: They're great about it, but um. And then I did

809
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: a couple episodes. I did an arc on nine O

810
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: two one oh and drove down to Manhattan Beach where

811
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: they're filming in these oh yeah, the new one, the

812
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: new nine two one oh yeah on the c W. Yeah, right,

813
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: these great studios down in Manhattan Beach. And I walked

814
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: onto the sound stage and it was like something out

815
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: of a sci fi film. It was so large and

816
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: so clean and so high tech. And the craft service

817
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: table was like the stadium full of food. I've never

818
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: seen anything I get it in my life. And I thought,

819
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I forgot how good network television was. Man,

820
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: they really feed you. Yeah, we don't have that at

821
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: I Heeart. You get like a bag of weird oreos

822
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: and you're lucky weird. Yeah. Like those mini orio they

823
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: are not even like the full size and there that's

824
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: wrongs them up and you go that's just wrong. I

825
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: cannot dunk that. Look at how how lucky you are now,

826
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Michael is a

827
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: real deal. He's like super professional and just gracious and

828
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: grateful and and such a great actor to work with. Man.

829
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think he carried me more

830
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: times than I'm willing to admit in scenes because his

831
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: timing is so good. And um, I remember one time

832
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: I was really tired and I just couldn't deliver the

833
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of energy that the scene needed, and he just,

834
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, he had a little talk with me and

835
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: he told me he was there for me. That's all

836
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: he did. He said, you know what, I'm here for

837
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: you man. You know, he was just offering support. He

838
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: knew I was struggling a little bit because I had

839
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: this sort of rapid fire monologue, you know, and how

840
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: to really get through it, and I just wasn't getting it.

841
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: And I was just like, God, am I going to

842
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: be able to do this? And he just took me

843
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: a sign. He said, you know what, because you're doing great.

844
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: You're doing great. No, he says, I know how tired

845
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: you are. I know what the schedules like sometimes and

846
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: he says, you know what, but you know you wouldn't

847
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be here if they didn't believe in you,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you can, you can,

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Speaker 1: you can do this in your sleep. And I just

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Speaker 1: gave me a little lift and we kind of held

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Speaker 1: the scene and he's just a lovely guy, lovely team

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Speaker 1: logan because so am Yeah. Well that's the one black

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Speaker 1: mark against him, all right. Uh So anyway, that was

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Speaker 1: the illustrious, lovely, talented professional actor, the real deal, the

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Speaker 1: real raw deal. Michael Winter's to a k A. Taylor

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Speaker 1: dosy uh and we're gonna have him back on. What

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Speaker 1: a great interview. Love the guy. I love you, Michael,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Let's dive into pop culture, guys.

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Speaker 1: Riley take it away. I'm Riley and this is your

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Speaker 1: pop culture. So first we have Laura La looking looking

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Speaker 1: like she's having so much trouble in the kitchen and

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Speaker 1: she says, I want to arrange things on a plate

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Speaker 1: so we look like a pretty little hat. I want

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Speaker 1: to be an iron chef. So Iron Chef was a

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Speaker 1: Japanese cooking show from two thousand two. The show was

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Speaker 1: recreated in America on the Food Network from two thousand

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Speaker 1: five to two thousand eighteen, And there are actually eight

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Speaker 1: hundred pounds of food stocked in the pantry for each

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Speaker 1: episode for the chefs to use, and there's a hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty pounds of dry ice pumped through the studio

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Speaker 1: for the filming, so the fog can create dramatic moments,

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Speaker 1: and finally, the schedule can be grueling with back to

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Speaker 1: back battles. The Food Network shoots twenty six episodes in

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Speaker 1: just three weeks. Next we have um Tristan is making

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Speaker 1: out with the girl against the locker and he quotes

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Speaker 1: uh Sonnet forty three by Elizabeth Barrett Browning and when

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Speaker 1: he says, ah to be young and in love, and

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00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: Paris says, what a shame. Elizabeth Barrett Browning wasn't here

879
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: to witness this. She put her head through the wall.

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00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: So Elizabeth was a poet and the eldest of twelve children.

881
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: She battled an illness her whole life that doctors at

882
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: the time could not diagnose, and her family made a

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00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: fortune from Jamaican sugar plantations. Colonialists. So Laura La talks

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Speaker 1: to Rory about the way Luke and Rachel are acting

885
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: in the diner. You could tell they were still in love.

886
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: And by the way they looked at each other. Luke

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00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: was stuttering and Rachel was staring deeply into his eyes.

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00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: And Laura La says, and he's looking at her like

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Speaker 1: she's Miss September, and she's looking at him like he's

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Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. So at the time of the episode in

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, Johnny Depp was known for his iconic

892
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Speaker 1: roles in Edward Scissor Hands and Chockole Lot. Hang on,

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Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt here, I have to interject here

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Speaker 1: is I want to take a poll with you ladies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know what I'm gonna ask. He's all that

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Speaker 1: a bag of chips, right, Johnny Depp is like beyond

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Speaker 1: beyond right, Yes, yeah, okay, I would say up until

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Speaker 1: like but yes, And he's got himself into a few

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Speaker 1: pickles lately. So it's kind of like, but I've heard

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Speaker 1: there's been some controversy. Um, but I love the one

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Speaker 1: jump Street Johnny Depp the most. Yeah, you know, I

902
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Speaker 1: met him. I met him backstage at a Patti Smith

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Speaker 1: concert a couple of years ago in downtown l A.

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Speaker 1: He was with he was with Joe Perry, he was with.

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Speaker 1: It's quite a story telling it here, but I did

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Speaker 1: make had lots of bodyguards outside. Was he nice though?

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Speaker 1: Was he nice? Yeah? He was all that and a

908
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: bag of chips, so much that he was named sexiest

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Speaker 1: Man Alive two years, two thousand three and two thousand nine.

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00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: But he's best no own for his role as Captain

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00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: Jack Sparrow on Pirates of the Caribbean from two thousand

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Speaker 1: three to two thousand seventeen. And it is a little

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Speaker 1: known fact that Johnny Depp appeared on a Nightmare on

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Speaker 1: Elm Street in nine four. He got murdered by Freddy Krueger.

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Speaker 1: Remember it got like sucked into the bed and murdered.

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Speaker 1: What a nightmare on Elm Street. Rory says to Dean

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Speaker 1: she would be relocated in a plastic bubble if she

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Speaker 1: misses dinner for their three month anniversary, and Rory says, well,

919
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Speaker 1: that special occasion better include my being relocated to a

920
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Speaker 1: plastic bubble if my grandmother is gonna let me out

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Speaker 1: of the dinner. So this is in reference to The

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Speaker 1: Boy in the Plastic Bubble, a nineteen seventy six drama

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Speaker 1: film starring John Travolta inspired by the Life the Lives

924
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Speaker 1: of David vetteran Ted Da Vita. During filming, twenty two

925
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Speaker 1: year old John Travolta and forty year old Diana Highland

926
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Speaker 1: began dating and fell in love. Sadly, Diana passed in

927
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven of cancer, and then in John's wife

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Speaker 1: Kelly Preston passed a cancer as well. Jake Jillenhall also

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Speaker 1: played a boy in a plastic bubble in the two

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Speaker 1: thousand one comedy Bubble Boy. It's a lot of bubbles.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of bubbles. Run Roy says. Dean is

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00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: taking her to a fancy restaurant for the anniversary. There's

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Speaker 1: an iconic scene in the animated film Lady in a

934
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Speaker 1: Tramp where Tramp pushes the meat ball with his nose

935
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Speaker 1: and the lady uh he and Lady Sheriff strand of spaghetti.

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Speaker 1: Laura Lai says, Wow, it's going to be just like

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Speaker 1: Lady in the Tramp. You'll share a plate of spaghetti,

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: but it'll it'll be just one strand. But you won't

939
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: realize it until you actually meet in the middle. Animated

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00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: romance film produced by Walt Disney. Animators use their own

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Speaker 1: faces as a reference for the characters, and Tramp was

942
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: first called Homer, then Rags and Bozo, even though the

943
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: canine was referred to as Tramp. Laura Lai says, oh god,

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Speaker 1: this is where the Misery reference comes in. Get ready, Amy,

945
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh God, mom has gone a little crazy with the

946
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Speaker 1: figurines here, huh, a little Cathy Bates. Although you probably

947
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: haven't seen Misery, which is a good thing, because Rory

948
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep for a week after she watched it. Do

949
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Speaker 1: you remember from Missouri when James Cohn's character Like gets

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Speaker 1: out and then he accidentally knocks the figurine, but he

951
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: catches it and he puts it back up. But she

952
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: was some cuckoo that she knew the direction it faced,

953
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Speaker 1: and so that's how she caught him get out of

954
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: the cocka duty car. That movie was so so good. Oh,

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Speaker 1: very very funny. Genius reference to genius. So for those

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Speaker 1: of us that don't know. Miseries an American psychological thriller

957
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: novel written by Stephen King and made into a horror

958
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Speaker 1: film in nine. Cathy Bates actually won the Oscar in

959
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: for her role as the terrifying Annie Wilkes. The original

960
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: inspiration for King's novel came from a nightmare he had

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 1: while flying, and Jack Nicholson was offered the leading role

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Speaker 1: of Paul Sheldon. However, he had such a difficult EXPERI

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: riants filming the Shining. He didn't want to do another

964
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Speaker 1: King adaptation. And who can actually watch the horrific ankle

965
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: scene without cringing? I cannot, I cover my eyes. But

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Speaker 1: interesting tidbit about Jack Nicholson, I might be the only

967
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: one that stood up and applauded during that scene. Oh,

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00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: that movie was so good. Chase was explaining to Lorela.

969
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: He grew up around the corner and the names of

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00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: his dover min's were Leopold and lobe So Nathan Leopold

971
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: and Richard Loebe were famous killers who were convicted of

972
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: the kidnapped and murder of a young boy in Chicago.

973
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: The Rope was American psychological crime thriller film directed by

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Speaker 1: Alfred Hitchcock, loosely based on the famous Killers, and the

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00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: film provided industry first since it took place in real time,

976
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: which is also crazy creepy that his dogs were named

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: after killers. Paris is trying to get to a locker

978
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: and Rory refers to the girl Tristan is making out

979
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: with as Belle Lotley, Paris says, yep, right behind Bell Watley.

980
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: Bell Watley was a prostitute and later the madam of

981
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: one of several houses in Atlanta's Red Light District. From

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Gone with the Wind, Gone with the Wind was a

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00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: ninety nine American epic historical romance film adapted from the

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00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: six novel by Margaret Mitchell. Margaret Mitchell actually wrote Gone

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00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: with the Wind out of boredom and had no intention

986
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Speaker 1: of publishing the book. Lastly, we have laurel Ized having

987
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: a nervous conversation with Richard and he tells her to

988
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: just sit down and put her hands in her lap.

989
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: Emily comes in and asked if they're having a good

990
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: conversation and Laura la says, yeah, we're having a great conversation,

991
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: me and Maury. So this is in reference to Tuesdays

992
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: with Marie, a memoir by American author Mitch Album about

993
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: a series of visits Album made to his former sociology

994
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: professor Maury Schwartz as he slowly passes from a l s.

995
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: Morey's final days are spent giving his former student Mitch

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00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: his final lesson of life and discuss various topics important

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00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: to life and living. The book was adapted into directed

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01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: by Mick Jackson, and then into a play That's it

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Speaker 1: for pop culture. Wonderful. A round of applause. Yeah, well done, Riley,

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Speaker 1: that's hard work. Well, thank you very much. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: we're back. I'm Scott Patterson. This is the I Am

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Speaker 1: All In Podcast with I Heart Radio, one of leven productions.

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Speaker 1: We are going to get into favorite lines here we go.

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Speaker 1: We are often running with favorite lines. Amy your first. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So they're at dinner with the guy Chase, and he says,

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: are you in the d a r And Laurel says

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01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: d A r in? And she says, boy, these carrots

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01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: sure are tiny, and then she stabs the d A

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Speaker 1: r in and they're all looking at her like so good,

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, Riley, you're on Mind's from Laura Lay

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01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: and she's talking Luke and she says, hey, tomorrow, if

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Speaker 1: you have time, I'm planning on despising everyone who says says, hey,

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01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: how's it going? M hm, Danielle. My favorite line is

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Speaker 1: after Dean professes his love to Rory, she goes, I

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Speaker 1: I love the car Scott, Uh, you stole Amy, you

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Speaker 1: stole my favorite line. She had some really good ones,

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Speaker 1: some really good ones. But yeah, I really enjoyed that

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Speaker 1: d A. R. And the tiny I thought that was

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Speaker 1: a wonderful little piece of acting right there, because that's

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Speaker 1: all you know, that's that's where you show your comedy chops.

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Speaker 1: It's like, not a lot of people can do that.

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Speaker 1: I agree, that would be hard. It's hard all that,

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Speaker 1: all those little subtleties and pauses and inflections and how

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Speaker 1: to use your props in the whole thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was just it was just wonderful to watch. You

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Speaker 1: have to nail it. Yeah, Yeah, it's really funny. Just uh,

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Speaker 1: it's disconnected yet linked altogether and it flows beautifully. So, Riley,

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Speaker 1: what episode is after this one? We still have more

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: to talk about. We need to turn this into a

1030
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Speaker 1: two parter. But Riley, what episode are we all watching

1031
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Speaker 1: for next? Next week? We have episode seventeen, The Breakup

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Speaker 1: Part two. Hi everybody. Uh, that's it for the star

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Speaker 1: Cross Lovers and other strangers. And that was episode sixteen.

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Speaker 1: And thanks for downloading, And we're gonna see you next week.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna do a mini Uh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: We're gonna follow with a mini discussion about the remainder

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Speaker 1: of this episode because we got into a little bit

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Speaker 1: and that was fun. Uh, this is one of the

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Speaker 1: better episodes to to dissect. But we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: it a little more with this additional episode that we'll

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll drop in the middle of a week

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Uh, you know how we do it. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: all the best, loved, everybody, stay safe. I'm Gott Patterson

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