WEBVTT - #783 Packers Unscripted: Train keeps moving

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>hear from our studios at Lambellfield and West. The training

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<v Speaker 1>camp train keeps rolling along here. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been hit by it a couple of times, especially these

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days with the hot and humid weather

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<v Speaker 1>out there at Raynichki Field. But before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>our observations of what we have seen through that steamy

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<v Speaker 1>weather on the practice field, Packers are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a white helmet. They are against the Houston Texans

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<v Speaker 1>on October twentieth. That was announced this morning. The winter

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<v Speaker 1>Warning eight October all white. The white out uniforms now

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<v Speaker 1>include a white helmet. Personally, I think they look pretty sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not want the Packers to wear them all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but for one game a season, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so it's the old chocolate cake analogy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoy having chocolate cake for dessert every once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while, you don't want to eat it for every

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<v Speaker 2>single meal, right, That's how that usually goes, but I

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<v Speaker 2>love them. I was excited about it when this all

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<v Speaker 2>started to kind of rumble up. And and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what too, I think it's gonna be such a

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<v Speaker 2>cool thing because the big promotion that's gonna be tied

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<v Speaker 2>to this with the Texans game is everybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>crowd wearing white as well, eighty thousand fans. If that

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<v Speaker 2>can come to fruition and have everybody get that buy

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<v Speaker 2>in with it going into the game, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>could be a really neat atmosphere. I've always felt even

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<v Speaker 2>with the yellow, the gold helmets, the honey gold that

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<v Speaker 2>those are such a cool look under the lights with

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the full white uniform. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you know, these type of matchups, man, and you find

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<v Speaker 2>ways it's kind of like the college football sort of

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<v Speaker 2>fervor entering into the National Football League a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>just to find ways to kind of amp up, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what. Otherwise could be somewhat just of a typical

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<v Speaker 2>October football game. I think it'll raise the stakes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it'll be interesting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so many fans that come to lambeau Field and they

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<v Speaker 1>wear you know, the home jersey, of their favorite player,

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<v Speaker 1>like will they go get the road jersey so that

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<v Speaker 1>they wear the white you know, to to fit in

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<v Speaker 1>with the white out thing. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty cool too, So something to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick shout out to our people too. Our social team,

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<v Speaker 2>our digital team did an amazing job, Lauren Anderson Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the photography that Evan Siegel got just an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome package and awesome rollout. Kudos to them on how

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<v Speaker 2>they went about unveiling this on Thursday morning. There you go, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what day of the week it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I do. Kudos to that career. Some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool stuff on the field West. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>two more practices since our last show, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>in a very general sense, and we'll get to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some more specific players as the show goes along,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a very general sense, we're starting to see

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love and this number one offense find its rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, Jordan Love getting his training camp legs

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<v Speaker 1>under him, so to speak. After observing for the first

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<v Speaker 1>four practices. Now he's been involved in running the number

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<v Speaker 1>one offense for four practices, we're starting to see the

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<v Speaker 1>offense make some of the plays that we're accustomed to

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<v Speaker 1>see them making.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody getting involved in that playmaking as well. That

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<v Speaker 2>was as I walked away from the practice field on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking a lot about how you think about

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<v Speaker 2>the forty seven yard pass to Christian Watson, something that

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<v Speaker 2>him and Love had talked about because they saw the

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<v Speaker 2>safety's up, They're going to try to take advantage of it,

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<v Speaker 2>go for a big explosive play. It seems like more

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<v Speaker 2>often than not in these practices, Love has been hitting

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<v Speaker 2>Watson on some type of game breaker, some type of

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<v Speaker 2>explosive play. You look over at Jaden Reid, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>run the right route in one of the two minute periods,

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<v Speaker 2>but him and Love are able to connect on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Love scrambles to buy time. You can even see him

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<v Speaker 2>pointing out there where what he wants Reid to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Lofts a twenty two yard pass and then they keep

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<v Speaker 2>it what ends up being a touchdown producing drive going,

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<v Speaker 2>which was finished off with don Tavian Wicks in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the end zone. Love then throws just an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute laser on the two point conversion to convert because

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a kicking day, so they were down seven,

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<v Speaker 2>they had to go for two. There were so many

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<v Speaker 2>and then I mean Romeo Dobbs is as steady as

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<v Speaker 2>they come. So for Love to reconnect and get that

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<v Speaker 2>chemistry and get back and sync with his top four

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<v Speaker 2>wideouts again, I think has been so encouraging. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not flawless, as Love talked about Xavier McKinney baited

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<v Speaker 2>him into an interception during one of the team periods,

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<v Speaker 2>but by and large, this offense, just seeing how it

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<v Speaker 2>operates now with Love back under center, it's been so smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and offensively. Looking at the guys up front, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of comments that are worth making here. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that in that competition at right guard between Jordan Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean Ryan, we're seeing Jordan Morgan, the rookie first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick from Arizona, is the first guy up now

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been taking more of the first team reps

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<v Speaker 1>than Sean Ryan has. Now, you know, things can always

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<v Speaker 1>change once the preseason game get games get going and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, but it is a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>shift in that in how those reps are being divided,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's worth keeping an eye on with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to Morgan and a guy that we haven't talked about

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly deserves to be talked about, is Rashid Walker

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle. Because the assumption was when Jordan Morgan was

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in the first round with that twenty fifth overall

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<v Speaker 1>pick that the Packers used in April, that Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the competition for Rashid Walker at left tackle. The former

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<v Speaker 1>seventh rout pick who settled into that job last year

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<v Speaker 1>did a fine job. He's going to have to hold

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<v Speaker 1>off a first rounder. Well, he basically held him off

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<v Speaker 1>through OTAs in mini camp because, as we heard from

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Stenovich, when the coaches sat down leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>training camp to look at things and decide, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a first round draft pick on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>We want him to be able to compete for a

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<v Speaker 1>starting job. Where is his best opportunity to compete and

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<v Speaker 1>get himself into the lineup as a rookie first round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided it was at right guard, not at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that tells you all you need to know about

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<v Speaker 1>how the Packers and this coaching staff and this offense

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<v Speaker 1>feel about Walker as he now enters year three, really

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<v Speaker 1>year two in terms of his playing but year three

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the beautiful thing about the National Football League. We

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<v Speaker 2>just got done. I just got done going through the

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<v Speaker 2>top four receivers on the Packer step chart, the plays

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<v Speaker 2>that they're making, and then a lot of times with

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<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen, particularly the tackles, the less you hear about

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<v Speaker 2>them through the first week of training camp, the less

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<v Speaker 2>you hear about them in games, the better it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how Zach Tom got noticed because it was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a week or two into it a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, it was like, Wow, so this guy just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really do anything wrong. This kind of plays the

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<v Speaker 2>position and holds his guy at bay in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways. You know, Walker has been able to do

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<v Speaker 2>that as well. And you know he's facing extremely difficult

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<v Speaker 2>competition in the form of Preston Smith and Rashawn Gary

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<v Speaker 2>and really high level edge rushers in this National Football

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<v Speaker 2>League in practice on a daily basis, and yet you

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<v Speaker 2>can see how that has sort of fortified his game.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Larry mcchaern in our Three Things video, I

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<v Speaker 2>watched that same exact play Larry did. He broke it

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<v Speaker 2>down more from the fundamentals the footwork and the body

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<v Speaker 2>be balanced, but just watching him stand up to Presto Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no wide eyed glare there. He understands what

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<v Speaker 2>his assignment is. He executes it and over and over again. Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>I think back to the twenty twenty three draft and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that I say the twenty twenty two draft, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that you know he goes in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh round, and I remember looking up Sheet's name afterwards

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing these mock drafts from a year earlier that

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<v Speaker 2>Adam as a potential first rounder. Right. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you everything that went into those that three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five day switch, but because it's nothing wrong. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy didn't do anything wrong in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like the Kailin King deal. But that

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<v Speaker 2>being said, I think solely but surely, he's proving this

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<v Speaker 2>guy was supremely underdrafted and the Packers really seem to

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<v Speaker 2>have found a guy that could be a really lockdown

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman for them for years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, though, because because it speaks to the Horton's

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<v Speaker 1>and the value of player development, because during Rashid Walker's

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<v Speaker 1>rookie year, we were all saying, typical seventh round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna play. He's got a long way to go,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And and he didn't play. He played what

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<v Speaker 1>was it like, four snaps on special teams his entire

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season. That's all he saw the field. But he developed,

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<v Speaker 1>he stuck with it, you know, he you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>he sort of gets thrown into it when David Baktiari

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<v Speaker 1>goes down again last season, and uh, and now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was for a while there was the

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<v Speaker 1>job sharing thing between Walker and yash Naim last season,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know he sort of, you know, put that

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<v Speaker 1>to rest and uh and lock down that position for

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch run last year and and uh and now

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<v Speaker 1>here he is. So uh so hats off to Walker

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, if he becomes, if he becomes what it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's going to be going to become, could

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the one of the most amazing seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round picks. You know, you know, there have been some

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<v Speaker 1>good ones in history here since the reduction of the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh seventh round draft. When you're talking about guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Scotty Wells at center and Donald Driver at wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Tauscher at offensive tackle, and guys like that

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<v Speaker 1>he could be talked about maybe maybe in in that

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<v Speaker 1>that same realm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and certainly you know ways to go for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that he's playing a premium position as

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<v Speaker 2>good as Mark was, as good as Scott Wells was.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is one of these and that that that

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of what changes the the dialogue about it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And and before we pivot, just to throw a shout

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<v Speaker 2>out there to Shordan Morgan as well. This guy being

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<v Speaker 2>planted in at right guard the first time he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>that position. You were talking about how that rotation kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stopped in the practices we've watched this week so far,

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<v Speaker 2>where he's been kind of just he's he's a right

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<v Speaker 2>guard right now. That's where they're keeping him. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a credit to him that he's actually showed own

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<v Speaker 2>that too. That Okay, even though I came in here

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<v Speaker 2>as a tackle, I want to play tackle. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a college left tackle. He has stepped up to that

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<v Speaker 2>challenge and the Packers have allowed him to be in

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<v Speaker 2>that role different rounds in which they were selected. But

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways, it does remind me of

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<v Speaker 2>John Runyon, who was in all big ten tackle miss

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<v Speaker 2>two time, all big ten times, and he actually had

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and I don't want to say learn guard,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was like, that's where you're gonna be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended up. You saw the contract he got

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<v Speaker 2>this offseason. He made the most of it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. One other quick note on offense before he shift

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<v Speaker 1>gears to the defense. You mentioned the top four wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry, the way things are developing and evolving with

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love, But there's a guy further down the depth

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<v Speaker 1>chart at wide receiver who's potentially gonna make for a

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult decision for the Packers personnel folks when it's

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<v Speaker 1>all said and done here. Obviously it's early in training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even gotten a family night or the pre

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<v Speaker 1>season games. But Grant Dubo's I don't want to I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say I don't want to overplay it

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<v Speaker 1>and make it sound like he's been a superstar every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you and you and I have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing this for a long time, and more than when

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy, when there's a guy who shows up

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<v Speaker 1>and makes a player two every day on the practice field,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't help but notice it and then you can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but watch him a little bit more. Right, Grant

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<v Speaker 1>Dubo's is starting to do that. Can he continue it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can he make the push from after essentially a red

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<v Speaker 1>shirt year as a rookie where he was a seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, dealt with injury issues, spent the whole season

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad. But he's making a run out

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<v Speaker 1>a roster spot, at least from what I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, Mike, if you just flashed the

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<v Speaker 2>calendar back for a year, if you look at it

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<v Speaker 2>like an eight hundred race, eight hundred meter race and tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>two trips around the track, right the guy due to

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<v Speaker 2>that back injury, they were already one lap into that

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<v Speaker 2>thing by the time he even got on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>But you saw him run that one lap that he ran,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did it in a pretty good time. Grant

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<v Speaker 2>Dubo's last offseason, last training camp, those two preseason games

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<v Speaker 2>he got in, those handful of practices looked good. The

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<v Speaker 2>problem was Packers end up having guys like Malik Heath.

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<v Speaker 2>They had three, you know, rookie draft picks that came in,

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<v Speaker 2>they had all the bow Melton was back. They had

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<v Speaker 2>so much competition at that position. Yeah, it's all still there,

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<v Speaker 2>and Grant Dubo's comes out in this first week of

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<v Speaker 2>training camp with the reps that he's gotten, with the

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<v Speaker 2>reps he's received, and he showed yet I was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that triover rookie draft picks last year. I

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty darn talented coming out of Charlotte. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a big play machine. And seeing him high point that ball,

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<v Speaker 2>they in one of the number two team periods on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>they get a free play. Sean Clifford goes back, he

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<v Speaker 2>throws him just a beautiful ball down the sideline. Du

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<v Speaker 2>Bo's is double covered.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two defenders.

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<v Speaker 2>Evan Williams and Zane Anderson are both in coverage there

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<v Speaker 2>and not like playing off they're right there. But Doubo's

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<v Speaker 2>times his jump perfectly high points it comes down. You

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<v Speaker 2>know you're paying for that type of catch, and the

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<v Speaker 2>way he landed on his body and bounces right back

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<v Speaker 2>up and just the way the offense responded to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it hasn't just been that, It's been some of

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<v Speaker 2>the slant routes, some of the things he's doing. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a really natural physique and frame for the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see that from the beginning, but what he's

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<v Speaker 2>been able to do with it in a competition that

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<v Speaker 2>has seven former draft picks, eight guys with NFL experience,

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<v Speaker 2>Grant Dubo's is very much in this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's able to make the Packers fifty three man roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if even if he's on the practice squad again,

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<v Speaker 1>but who knows, he could end up be end up contributing,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know Bo Melton did last year when he

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<v Speaker 1>made the switch from the practice squad of the active roster.

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<v Speaker 1>However this thing works out, he becomes a heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a story. You when you look back at you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Packers drafted him out of Charlotte, but before that

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<v Speaker 1>he was at a small school I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>called Miles College. Yeah, on Alabama. That a Division two

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<v Speaker 1>school that essentially canceled cancels football during COVID, like it

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<v Speaker 1>just went away, and his football career might have been

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<v Speaker 1>completely over at that point, like nowhere to go, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. He ends up making his way to Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>get gets a Division One opportunity there, becomes one of

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<v Speaker 1>the last players picked in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and and here he is in probably the most crowded

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<v Speaker 1>position group on the Packers roster, on the playoff contender's roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's making some noise on the practice field and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a run out of roster spot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool to see. On the defensive side. A few

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<v Speaker 1>guys were talking about and I'll mention them quickly. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you elaborate if you want to. Eric Wilson turned linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>He's become very quickly a special teams leader for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also not exactly getting budged out of that

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<v Speaker 1>third off ball linebacker spot in the four to three

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<v Speaker 1>base And when you watch practices, you watch the eleven

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven, he's around the ball all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>every time you see him near the football, especially on

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<v Speaker 1>a running play, you're reminded, Yeah, this guy had one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred plus tackles one year with the Minnesota Vikings as

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<v Speaker 1>a starting linebacker, even though he's not a household name

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<v Speaker 1>by any means. You mentioned Xavier McKinney earlier. He got

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<v Speaker 1>an interception against Jordan Love yesterday. The day before he

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<v Speaker 1>dropped that interception, he got the goal line, so he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got his revenge a little bit. He was

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<v Speaker 1>able to hang on to the one get the pick there.

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<v Speaker 1>And with all the other safeties that the young safeties

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<v Speaker 1>that have been making plays, Xavier McKinney's starting to make

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<v Speaker 1>his too, and he'd would almost have two interceptions in

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<v Speaker 1>a row in practices if he'd hung onto the one

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. And then King Lenigbari, his his story in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of his injury was was something that, as we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the spring, just unheard of in a sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's out there running around getting pressures, knocking down

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<v Speaker 1>passes at the line of scrimmage like like he was

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<v Speaker 1>never injured at all. And uh, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>knock on wood with Enigbari in that knee. If everything,

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<v Speaker 1>if everything truly is okay, he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>key player in the edge rushing rotation for this defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to just mention quickly to you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I think brab Demovsky might have been on that

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<v Speaker 2>that huddle as well. Uh. I really appreciate how informative

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<v Speaker 2>and Inggbari was on where he's at physically, because at

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<v Speaker 2>first he was a little bit guarded about what exactly

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<v Speaker 2>had happened with the knee in the locker room on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>he went into a bit more detail. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>did say, Yeah, the a cl is partially torn and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a time where that happens. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>get it repaired. Football's over. It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he went through the rehab, He developed

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<v Speaker 2>the muscles around the injury, around the knee, strengthened the leg.

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<v Speaker 2>He feels like he's in the best shape of his

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<v Speaker 2>life right now. And I didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>ask him this myself. I would have been interested to

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<v Speaker 2>think to see what he thought in his mind when

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<v Speaker 2>he had that rep. I believe it was against Luke

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<v Speaker 2>Tanuda in practice on Wednesday, where I mean he pulls

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<v Speaker 2>off like the spin move type thing looked quick, explosive, fast.

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<v Speaker 2>The offensive lineman could not get a hand on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he won the rep for a sack. He goes back,

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<v Speaker 2>defensive players just mauling him, high fives, all that type

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. This is a guy that six months ago

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting in the Dallas locker room with the towel

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<v Speaker 2>over his head, thinking that the twenty twenty four season

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<v Speaker 2>is probably not in the cars for him, at least

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<v Speaker 2>not most of it. And here he is filling out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking with all these positions, Mike, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems like you look down the list of the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers man. Yes, receiver is re supremely stacked, but

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<v Speaker 2>like outside linebacker now, defensive end is a very talent

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<v Speaker 2>rich position. And even though you have Lucas van s there, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Andigbari is still right at the top of that rotation

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<v Speaker 2>as well. It's an exciting thing for this Packers defense

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited to see what he does with this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a day to day thing, he said, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>got to keep monitoring where this thing goes. But from

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<v Speaker 2>what we've seen on the practice field, kings Landing Bari

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<v Speaker 2>looks like, you know, nothing had ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Uh and I should I should mention as

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<v Speaker 1>well with regard to the defense when I bring up

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Wilson, that Isaiah McDuffie has been holding down that

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<v Speaker 1>spot with the number one defense alongside kway Walker with

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<v Speaker 1>with that off ball linebacker group Edger and Cooper. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe I saw him drop out of practice yesterday. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really had a time we're taping this, so we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really gotten an update as to as to what's

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<v Speaker 1>up with that. But but yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Hats on Tuesday, we'll have an update.

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<v Speaker 1>Hats off to McDuffie and Wilson because because those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys have you know, have held onto their spots

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<v Speaker 1>with the number one defense thus far in training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>They deserve a lot of credit for that. So quickly

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing before we go. Next up after today's practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up will be Family Night under the Lights Lambeufield

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night. Just wanted to get your thoughts on kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what are you going to be watching for from

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<v Speaker 1>the press box? Our first, my son, our first, our

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<v Speaker 1>first foray, our first foray into the press box in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. What are you gonna be watching for?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, other than my son, we'll be attending his first

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<v Speaker 2>family night. Very excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he like fireworks?

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<v Speaker 2>He does, Okay, he also likes like the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we never get to see it because we're

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<v Speaker 1>always working, but but it is quite the show to

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<v Speaker 1>end the night.

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<v Speaker 2>He likes fireworks. He also likes sleep. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see which one prevails on Saturday night, so you know

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<v Speaker 2>I have family. That's one of my favorite nights of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Like you said, we've never seen the fireworks.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen the Laser show. I'm usually trying to

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<v Speaker 2>convince players in the locker room to talk to me

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty four seconds. But that being said, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>the first It's the first event I ever covered as

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the Packers Beat. It was when Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>Ross intercepted Aaron Rodgers Oh sure, in what I think

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<v Speaker 2>was like an eight minute family night because of like

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<v Speaker 2>Thunderstrucks or something like that. And there's always moments like

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<v Speaker 2>that where it's an undrafted guy that makes a play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's somebody that shines on that stage. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see the kicking competition some more. I would imagine between

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<v Speaker 2>Anders Carlson and Greg Joseph it's always a neat experience

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<v Speaker 2>because the vibe and the energy level inside lambeau Field

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<v Speaker 2>with people welcoming the team back into the stadium bowl

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time in seven eight months, is always

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<v Speaker 2>just electric. So I'm very much looking forward to that

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<v Speaker 2>and just seeing you know, it's not the old scrimmage format.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that that's been done away with for about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ten years now, but you know, the two

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 2>minute drills, We've seen some of them. We've watched some

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 2>of them in downpouring rain before. Yep. They've done live

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<v Speaker 2>tackling underneath Matt Lafloor in this era too with the

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<v Speaker 2>number three, so so many different elements in play with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think watching how players interact with the

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<v Speaker 2>fans and just how that camaraderie gets built up again

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<v Speaker 2>after having so much time apart is always the most

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<v Speaker 2>fun for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna be keeping an eye on, certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>kicking competition. I think it's the next step between Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>and Joseph in terms of, you know, will there be

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of a separation here in terms of in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of somebody taking the lead. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to watch in terms of we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line in terms of the backup tackle positions and.

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<v Speaker 2>How swinging tackles huge.

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<v Speaker 1>How the Packers are going to sort this out between

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Dillard and Canem Telford and Caleb Jones, Caleb Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>Jones in that mix, Luke Tanudo who you mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 1>All these guys in the mix, all sort of with

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<v Speaker 1>different stories in terms of how they got to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and battling for a for a roster spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh the the depth on the Packers offensive line, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quite frankly, if Jordan Morgan is potentially going

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<v Speaker 1>to be starting at right guard, Sean Ryan, who would

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<v Speaker 1>be a backup guard, is not a tackle, hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>playing tackle since he came into the NFL. Jordan Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think is suddenly going to bounce out to

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<v Speaker 1>tackle as as the you know, the first guy up.

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<v Speaker 1>If something happens there, maybe they would go that route,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't seem that way at this point. So,

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<v Speaker 1>uh So, how the uh how the the swing tackle

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<v Speaker 1>and and the depth at that position gets sorted out,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is.

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<v Speaker 2>Important keep in mind, I mean Zach Tom is at

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<v Speaker 2>all times could be a back up at every single

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<v Speaker 2>position right, which means even if it's an unrelayd to

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Tom, there could be somebody that has to step

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<v Speaker 2>in at that right tackle post. That's why these reps

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<v Speaker 2>at Telford has been taking have been so critical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The other thing I'm just gonna see.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the the layout of the practice

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<v Speaker 1>schedule is, but I'm wondering if we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>some of some live reps of the kickoff the new

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<v Speaker 1>yeah right, new kiss thing, because you know they're working

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<v Speaker 1>on it here and there in practice, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching from field level, and quite frankly, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to really see what's going on and and really

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<v Speaker 1>understanding schematically, you know, kind of how this is being

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<v Speaker 1>set up. So that the chance to watch it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be more important in the preseason games and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about it then, but the chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>it from up above for the first time and just

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<v Speaker 1>and see the timing of it and just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the function and how it works. I'm kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that because because I'm hoping that we get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like an inbox. You had to edit it. But

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had asked me, like, hey, how much they've been

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<v Speaker 2>practicing this, you know, so far this play, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been practicing it. But to me, it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feels like an avant garde performance where I'm just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there like, oh, yeah, I have no idea what I'm watching. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't. We just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, it's it's a whole it's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new world, a brave new world.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot fell special teams, there's players, there's cones,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're figuring it out. People. You're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to trust me on that one. But you're right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in Cleveland, that's gonna be a big moment too, to

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<v Speaker 2>see what this thing starts to look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Well we've got to get out to

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field shortly, so with that, we'll call it

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<v Speaker 1>a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

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