Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you
Speaker 1: hear from our studios at Lambellfield and West. The training
Speaker 1: camp train keeps rolling along here. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been hit by it a couple of times, especially these
Speaker 1: last couple of days with the hot and humid weather
Speaker 1: out there at Raynichki Field. But before we get to
Speaker 1: our observations of what we have seen through that steamy
Speaker 1: weather on the practice field, Packers are going to be
Speaker 1: wearing a white helmet. They are against the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: on October twentieth. That was announced this morning. The winter
Speaker 1: Warning eight October all white. The white out uniforms now
Speaker 1: include a white helmet. Personally, I think they look pretty sharp.
Speaker 1: I would not want the Packers to wear them all
Speaker 1: the time, but for one game a season, I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Well, so it's the old chocolate cake analogy. I mean,
Speaker 2: you enjoy having chocolate cake for dessert every once in
Speaker 2: a while, you don't want to eat it for every
Speaker 2: single meal, right, That's how that usually goes, but I
Speaker 2: love them. I was excited about it when this all
Speaker 2: started to kind of rumble up. And and I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what too, I think it's gonna be such a
Speaker 2: cool thing because the big promotion that's gonna be tied
Speaker 2: to this with the Texans game is everybody in the
Speaker 2: crowd wearing white as well, eighty thousand fans. If that
Speaker 2: can come to fruition and have everybody get that buy
Speaker 2: in with it going into the game, I think it
Speaker 2: could be a really neat atmosphere. I've always felt even
Speaker 2: with the yellow, the gold helmets, the honey gold that
Speaker 2: those are such a cool look under the lights with
Speaker 2: the you know, the full white uniform. But I think
Speaker 2: you know, these type of matchups, man, and you find
Speaker 2: ways it's kind of like the college football sort of
Speaker 2: fervor entering into the National Football League a little bit,
Speaker 2: just to find ways to kind of amp up, you
Speaker 2: know what. Otherwise could be somewhat just of a typical
Speaker 2: October football game. I think it'll raise the stakes a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it'll be interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 1: so many fans that come to lambeau Field and they
Speaker 1: wear you know, the home jersey, of their favorite player,
Speaker 1: like will they go get the road jersey so that
Speaker 1: they wear the white you know, to to fit in
Speaker 1: with the white out thing. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be pretty cool too, So something to look forward to.
Speaker 2: Quick shout out to our people too. Our social team,
Speaker 2: our digital team did an amazing job, Lauren Anderson Stone.
Speaker 2: Some of the photography that Evan Siegel got just an
Speaker 2: awesome package and awesome rollout. Kudos to them on how
Speaker 2: they went about unveiling this on Thursday morning. There you go, yep,
Speaker 2: I know what day of the week it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I do. Kudos to that career. Some
Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff on the field West. There have been
Speaker 1: two more practices since our last show, and I think
Speaker 1: in a very general sense, and we'll get to maybe
Speaker 1: talking about some more specific players as the show goes along,
Speaker 1: but in a very general sense, we're starting to see
Speaker 1: Jordan Love and this number one offense find its rhythm
Speaker 1: a little bit, Jordan Love getting his training camp legs
Speaker 1: under him, so to speak. After observing for the first
Speaker 1: four practices. Now he's been involved in running the number
Speaker 1: one offense for four practices, we're starting to see the
Speaker 1: offense make some of the plays that we're accustomed to
Speaker 1: see them making.
Speaker 2: And everybody getting involved in that playmaking as well. That
Speaker 2: was as I walked away from the practice field on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: I was thinking a lot about how you think about
Speaker 2: the forty seven yard pass to Christian Watson, something that
Speaker 2: him and Love had talked about because they saw the
Speaker 2: safety's up, They're going to try to take advantage of it,
Speaker 2: go for a big explosive play. It seems like more
Speaker 2: often than not in these practices, Love has been hitting
Speaker 2: Watson on some type of game breaker, some type of
Speaker 2: explosive play. You look over at Jaden Reid, he doesn't
Speaker 2: run the right route in one of the two minute periods,
Speaker 2: but him and Love are able to connect on the field.
Speaker 2: Love scrambles to buy time. You can even see him
Speaker 2: pointing out there where what he wants Reid to do.
Speaker 2: Lofts a twenty two yard pass and then they keep
Speaker 2: it what ends up being a touchdown producing drive going,
Speaker 2: which was finished off with don Tavian Wicks in the
Speaker 2: back of the end zone. Love then throws just an
Speaker 2: absolute laser on the two point conversion to convert because
Speaker 2: there wasn't a kicking day, so they were down seven,
Speaker 2: they had to go for two. There were so many
Speaker 2: and then I mean Romeo Dobbs is as steady as
Speaker 2: they come. So for Love to reconnect and get that
Speaker 2: chemistry and get back and sync with his top four
Speaker 2: wideouts again, I think has been so encouraging. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not flawless, as Love talked about Xavier McKinney baited
Speaker 2: him into an interception during one of the team periods,
Speaker 2: but by and large, this offense, just seeing how it
Speaker 2: operates now with Love back under center, it's been so smooth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and offensively. Looking at the guys up front, a
Speaker 1: couple of comments that are worth making here. One is
Speaker 1: that in that competition at right guard between Jordan Morgan
Speaker 1: and Sean Ryan, we're seeing Jordan Morgan, the rookie first
Speaker 1: round pick from Arizona, is the first guy up now
Speaker 1: and he's been taking more of the first team reps
Speaker 1: than Sean Ryan has. Now, you know, things can always
Speaker 1: change once the preseason game get games get going and
Speaker 1: all that, but it is a little bit of a
Speaker 1: shift in that in how those reps are being divided,
Speaker 1: and so that's worth keeping an eye on with regard
Speaker 1: to Morgan and a guy that we haven't talked about
Speaker 1: but certainly deserves to be talked about, is Rashid Walker
Speaker 1: left tackle. Because the assumption was when Jordan Morgan was
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round with that twenty fifth overall
Speaker 1: pick that the Packers used in April, that Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the competition for Rashid Walker at left tackle. The former
Speaker 1: seventh rout pick who settled into that job last year
Speaker 1: did a fine job. He's going to have to hold
Speaker 1: off a first rounder. Well, he basically held him off
Speaker 1: through OTAs in mini camp because, as we heard from
Speaker 1: Adam Stenovich, when the coaches sat down leading up to
Speaker 1: training camp to look at things and decide, Okay, we
Speaker 1: have a first round draft pick on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: We want him to be able to compete for a
Speaker 1: starting job. Where is his best opportunity to compete and
Speaker 1: get himself into the lineup as a rookie first round pick,
Speaker 1: they decided it was at right guard, not at left tackle.
Speaker 1: And that tells you all you need to know about
Speaker 1: how the Packers and this coaching staff and this offense
Speaker 1: feel about Walker as he now enters year three, really
Speaker 1: year two in terms of his playing but year three
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's the beautiful thing about the National Football League. We
Speaker 2: just got done. I just got done going through the
Speaker 2: top four receivers on the Packer step chart, the plays
Speaker 2: that they're making, and then a lot of times with
Speaker 2: offensive linemen, particularly the tackles, the less you hear about
Speaker 2: them through the first week of training camp, the less
Speaker 2: you hear about them in games, the better it is.
Speaker 2: That's how Zach Tom got noticed because it was almost
Speaker 2: like a week or two into it a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, it was like, Wow, so this guy just
Speaker 2: doesn't really do anything wrong. This kind of plays the
Speaker 2: position and holds his guy at bay in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways. You know, Walker has been able to do
Speaker 2: that as well. And you know he's facing extremely difficult
Speaker 2: competition in the form of Preston Smith and Rashawn Gary
Speaker 2: and really high level edge rushers in this National Football
Speaker 2: League in practice on a daily basis, and yet you
Speaker 2: can see how that has sort of fortified his game.
Speaker 2: I thought Larry mcchaern in our Three Things video, I
Speaker 2: watched that same exact play Larry did. He broke it
Speaker 2: down more from the fundamentals the footwork and the body
Speaker 2: be balanced, but just watching him stand up to Presto Smith.
Speaker 2: There is no wide eyed glare there. He understands what
Speaker 2: his assignment is. He executes it and over and over again. Mike,
Speaker 2: I think back to the twenty twenty three draft and
Speaker 2: the fact that I say the twenty twenty two draft, yeah,
Speaker 2: and the fact that you know he goes in the
Speaker 2: seventh round, and I remember looking up Sheet's name afterwards
Speaker 2: and seeing these mock drafts from a year earlier that
Speaker 2: Adam as a potential first rounder. Right. I can't tell
Speaker 2: you everything that went into those that three hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty five day switch, but because it's nothing wrong. The
Speaker 2: guy didn't do anything wrong in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Kailin King deal. But that
Speaker 2: being said, I think solely but surely, he's proving this
Speaker 2: guy was supremely underdrafted and the Packers really seem to
Speaker 2: have found a guy that could be a really lockdown
Speaker 2: offensive lineman for them for years to come.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, because because it speaks to the Horton's
Speaker 1: and the value of player development, because during Rashid Walker's
Speaker 1: rookie year, we were all saying, typical seventh round pick,
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play. He's got a long way to go,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And and he didn't play. He played what
Speaker 1: was it like, four snaps on special teams his entire
Speaker 1: rookie season. That's all he saw the field. But he developed,
Speaker 1: he stuck with it, you know, he you know, then
Speaker 1: he sort of gets thrown into it when David Baktiari
Speaker 1: goes down again last season, and uh, and now you know,
Speaker 1: and then there was for a while there was the
Speaker 1: job sharing thing between Walker and yash Naim last season,
Speaker 1: but you know he sort of, you know, put that
Speaker 1: to rest and uh and lock down that position for
Speaker 1: the stretch run last year and and uh and now
Speaker 1: here he is. So uh so hats off to Walker
Speaker 1: and uh, if he becomes, if he becomes what it
Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be going to become, could
Speaker 1: be one of the one of the most amazing seventh
Speaker 1: round picks. You know, you know, there have been some
Speaker 1: good ones in history here since the reduction of the
Speaker 1: seventh seventh round draft. When you're talking about guys like
Speaker 1: Scotty Wells at center and Donald Driver at wide receiver
Speaker 1: and Mark Tauscher at offensive tackle, and guys like that
Speaker 1: he could be talked about maybe maybe in in that
Speaker 1: that same realm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly you know ways to go for him,
Speaker 2: but the fact that he's playing a premium position as
Speaker 2: good as Mark was, as good as Scott Wells was.
Speaker 2: We're talking about left tackle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is one of these and that that that
Speaker 1: is kind of what changes the the dialogue about it
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: And and before we pivot, just to throw a shout
Speaker 2: out there to Shordan Morgan as well. This guy being
Speaker 2: planted in at right guard the first time he's playing
Speaker 2: that position. You were talking about how that rotation kind
Speaker 2: of stopped in the practices we've watched this week so far,
Speaker 2: where he's been kind of just he's he's a right
Speaker 2: guard right now. That's where they're keeping him. I think
Speaker 2: that's a credit to him that he's actually showed own
Speaker 2: that too. That Okay, even though I came in here
Speaker 2: as a tackle, I want to play tackle. I was
Speaker 2: a college left tackle. He has stepped up to that
Speaker 2: challenge and the Packers have allowed him to be in
Speaker 2: that role different rounds in which they were selected. But
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, it does remind me of
Speaker 2: John Runyon, who was in all big ten tackle miss
Speaker 2: two time, all big ten times, and he actually had
Speaker 2: to come in and I don't want to say learn guard,
Speaker 2: but that was like, that's where you're gonna be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he ended up. You saw the contract he got
Speaker 2: this offseason. He made the most of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. One other quick note on offense before he shift
Speaker 1: gears to the defense. You mentioned the top four wide receivers,
Speaker 1: the chemistry, the way things are developing and evolving with
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, But there's a guy further down the depth
Speaker 1: chart at wide receiver who's potentially gonna make for a
Speaker 1: very difficult decision for the Packers personnel folks when it's
Speaker 1: all said and done here. Obviously it's early in training camp.
Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten a family night or the pre
Speaker 1: season games. But Grant Dubo's I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to say I don't want to overplay it
Speaker 1: and make it sound like he's been a superstar every day.
Speaker 2: Well, you and you and I have been.
Speaker 1: Doing this for a long time, and more than when
Speaker 1: there's a guy, when there's a guy who shows up
Speaker 1: and makes a player two every day on the practice field,
Speaker 1: you can't help but notice it and then you can't
Speaker 1: help but watch him a little bit more. Right, Grant
Speaker 1: Dubo's is starting to do that. Can he continue it?
Speaker 1: Can he make the push from after essentially a red
Speaker 1: shirt year as a rookie where he was a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick, dealt with injury issues, spent the whole season
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. But he's making a run out
Speaker 1: a roster spot, at least from what I've seen.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Mike, if you just flashed the
Speaker 2: calendar back for a year, if you look at it
Speaker 2: like an eight hundred race, eight hundred meter race and tracks,
Speaker 2: two trips around the track, right the guy due to
Speaker 2: that back injury, they were already one lap into that
Speaker 2: thing by the time he even got on the field.
Speaker 2: But you saw him run that one lap that he ran,
Speaker 2: and he did it in a pretty good time. Grant
Speaker 2: Dubo's last offseason, last training camp, those two preseason games
Speaker 2: he got in, those handful of practices looked good. The
Speaker 2: problem was Packers end up having guys like Malik Heath.
Speaker 2: They had three, you know, rookie draft picks that came in,
Speaker 2: they had all the bow Melton was back. They had
Speaker 2: so much competition at that position. Yeah, it's all still there,
Speaker 2: and Grant Dubo's comes out in this first week of
Speaker 2: training camp with the reps that he's gotten, with the
Speaker 2: reps he's received, and he showed yet I was a
Speaker 2: part of that triover rookie draft picks last year. I
Speaker 2: was pretty darn talented coming out of Charlotte. I was
Speaker 2: a big play machine. And seeing him high point that ball,
Speaker 2: they in one of the number two team periods on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: they get a free play. Sean Clifford goes back, he
Speaker 2: throws him just a beautiful ball down the sideline. Du
Speaker 2: Bo's is double covered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two defenders.
Speaker 2: Evan Williams and Zane Anderson are both in coverage there
Speaker 2: and not like playing off they're right there. But Doubo's
Speaker 2: times his jump perfectly high points it comes down. You
Speaker 2: know you're paying for that type of catch, and the
Speaker 2: way he landed on his body and bounces right back
Speaker 2: up and just the way the offense responded to that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it hasn't just been that, It's been some of
Speaker 2: the slant routes, some of the things he's doing. He
Speaker 2: has a really natural physique and frame for the receiver position.
Speaker 2: You could see that from the beginning, but what he's
Speaker 2: been able to do with it in a competition that
Speaker 2: has seven former draft picks, eight guys with NFL experience,
Speaker 2: Grant Dubo's is very much in this thing.
Speaker 1: If he's able to make the Packers fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: and even if even if he's on the practice squad again,
Speaker 1: but who knows, he could end up be end up contributing,
Speaker 1: as you know Bo Melton did last year when he
Speaker 1: made the switch from the practice squad of the active roster.
Speaker 1: However this thing works out, he becomes a heck of
Speaker 1: a story. You when you look back at you mentioned
Speaker 1: Charlotte Packers drafted him out of Charlotte, but before that
Speaker 1: he was at a small school I believe it was
Speaker 1: called Miles College. Yeah, on Alabama. That a Division two
Speaker 1: school that essentially canceled cancels football during COVID, like it
Speaker 1: just went away, and his football career might have been
Speaker 1: completely over at that point, like nowhere to go, nothing
Speaker 1: to do. He ends up making his way to Charlotte,
Speaker 1: get gets a Division One opportunity there, becomes one of
Speaker 1: the last players picked in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: and and here he is in probably the most crowded
Speaker 1: position group on the Packers roster, on the playoff contender's roster,
Speaker 1: and he's making some noise on the practice field and
Speaker 1: trying to make a run out of roster spot. It's
Speaker 1: pretty cool to see. On the defensive side. A few
Speaker 1: guys were talking about and I'll mention them quickly. I'll
Speaker 1: let you elaborate if you want to. Eric Wilson turned linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's become very quickly a special teams leader for the Packers.
Speaker 1: But he's also not exactly getting budged out of that
Speaker 1: third off ball linebacker spot in the four to three
Speaker 1: base And when you watch practices, you watch the eleven
Speaker 1: on eleven, he's around the ball all the time. And
Speaker 1: every time you see him near the football, especially on
Speaker 1: a running play, you're reminded, Yeah, this guy had one
Speaker 1: hundred plus tackles one year with the Minnesota Vikings as
Speaker 1: a starting linebacker, even though he's not a household name
Speaker 1: by any means. You mentioned Xavier McKinney earlier. He got
Speaker 1: an interception against Jordan Love yesterday. The day before he
Speaker 1: dropped that interception, he got the goal line, so he
Speaker 1: kind of got his revenge a little bit. He was
Speaker 1: able to hang on to the one get the pick there.
Speaker 1: And with all the other safeties that the young safeties
Speaker 1: that have been making plays, Xavier McKinney's starting to make
Speaker 1: his too, and he'd would almost have two interceptions in
Speaker 1: a row in practices if he'd hung onto the one
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And then King Lenigbari, his his story in
Speaker 1: terms of his injury was was something that, as we
Speaker 1: talked about in the spring, just unheard of in a sense.
Speaker 1: But he's out there running around getting pressures, knocking down
Speaker 1: passes at the line of scrimmage like like he was
Speaker 1: never injured at all. And uh, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: knock on wood with Enigbari in that knee. If everything,
Speaker 1: if everything truly is okay, he's going to be a
Speaker 1: key player in the edge rushing rotation for this defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to just mention quickly to you. You know,
Speaker 2: obviously I think brab Demovsky might have been on that
Speaker 2: that huddle as well. Uh. I really appreciate how informative
Speaker 2: and Inggbari was on where he's at physically, because at
Speaker 2: first he was a little bit guarded about what exactly
Speaker 2: had happened with the knee in the locker room on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: he went into a bit more detail. You know, he
Speaker 2: did say, Yeah, the a cl is partially torn and
Speaker 2: there was a time where that happens. You have to
Speaker 2: get it repaired. Football's over. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: But you know, he went through the rehab, He developed
Speaker 2: the muscles around the injury, around the knee, strengthened the leg.
Speaker 2: He feels like he's in the best shape of his
Speaker 2: life right now. And I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 2: ask him this myself. I would have been interested to
Speaker 2: think to see what he thought in his mind when
Speaker 2: he had that rep. I believe it was against Luke
Speaker 2: Tanuda in practice on Wednesday, where I mean he pulls
Speaker 2: off like the spin move type thing looked quick, explosive, fast.
Speaker 2: The offensive lineman could not get a hand on him,
Speaker 2: and he won the rep for a sack. He goes back,
Speaker 2: defensive players just mauling him, high fives, all that type
Speaker 2: of thing. This is a guy that six months ago
Speaker 2: was sitting in the Dallas locker room with the towel
Speaker 2: over his head, thinking that the twenty twenty four season
Speaker 2: is probably not in the cars for him, at least
Speaker 2: not most of it. And here he is filling out.
Speaker 2: We're talking with all these positions, Mike, and it just
Speaker 2: seems like you look down the list of the Green
Speaker 2: Bay Packers man. Yes, receiver is re supremely stacked, but
Speaker 2: like outside linebacker now, defensive end is a very talent
Speaker 2: rich position. And even though you have Lucas van s there, Uh,
Speaker 2: Andigbari is still right at the top of that rotation
Speaker 2: as well. It's an exciting thing for this Packers defense
Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see what he does with this opportunity.
Speaker 2: It's a day to day thing, he said, he's just
Speaker 2: got to keep monitoring where this thing goes. But from
Speaker 2: what we've seen on the practice field, kings Landing Bari
Speaker 2: looks like, you know, nothing had ever happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Uh and I should I should mention as
Speaker 1: well with regard to the defense when I bring up
Speaker 1: Eric Wilson, that Isaiah McDuffie has been holding down that
Speaker 1: spot with the number one defense alongside kway Walker with
Speaker 1: with that off ball linebacker group Edger and Cooper. I
Speaker 1: believe I saw him drop out of practice yesterday. We
Speaker 1: haven't really had a time we're taping this, so we
Speaker 1: haven't really gotten an update as to as to what's
Speaker 1: up with that. But but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Hats on Tuesday, we'll have an update.
Speaker 1: Hats off to McDuffie and Wilson because because those guys,
Speaker 1: those guys have you know, have held onto their spots
Speaker 1: with the number one defense thus far in training camp.
Speaker 1: They deserve a lot of credit for that. So quickly
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Speaker 1: Last thing before we go. Next up after today's practice.
Speaker 1: Next up will be Family Night under the Lights Lambeufield
Speaker 1: Saturday Night. Just wanted to get your thoughts on kind
Speaker 1: of what are you going to be watching for from
Speaker 1: the press box? Our first, my son, our first, our
Speaker 1: first foray, our first foray into the press box in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. What are you gonna be watching for?
Speaker 2: Well, other than my son, we'll be attending his first
Speaker 2: family night. Very excited about that.
Speaker 1: Does he like fireworks?
Speaker 2: He does, Okay, he also likes like the show.
Speaker 1: I mean, we never get to see it because we're
Speaker 1: always working, but but it is quite the show to
Speaker 1: end the night.
Speaker 2: He likes fireworks. He also likes sleep. We're going to
Speaker 2: see which one prevails on Saturday night, so you know
Speaker 2: I have family. That's one of my favorite nights of
Speaker 2: the year. Like you said, we've never seen the fireworks.
Speaker 2: I've never seen the Laser show. I'm usually trying to
Speaker 2: convince players in the locker room to talk to me
Speaker 2: for thirty four seconds. But that being said, I remember
Speaker 2: the first It's the first event I ever covered as
Speaker 2: a member of the Packers Beat. It was when Brandon
Speaker 2: Ross intercepted Aaron Rodgers Oh sure, in what I think
Speaker 2: was like an eight minute family night because of like
Speaker 2: Thunderstrucks or something like that. And there's always moments like
Speaker 2: that where it's an undrafted guy that makes a play.
Speaker 2: It's somebody that shines on that stage. We're going to
Speaker 2: see the kicking competition some more. I would imagine between
Speaker 2: Anders Carlson and Greg Joseph it's always a neat experience
Speaker 2: because the vibe and the energy level inside lambeau Field
Speaker 2: with people welcoming the team back into the stadium bowl
Speaker 2: for the first time in seven eight months, is always
Speaker 2: just electric. So I'm very much looking forward to that
Speaker 2: and just seeing you know, it's not the old scrimmage format.
Speaker 2: I understand that that's been done away with for about
Speaker 2: you know, ten years now, but you know, the two
Speaker 2: minute drills, We've seen some of them. We've watched some
Speaker 2: of them in downpouring rain before. Yep. They've done live
Speaker 2: tackling underneath Matt Lafloor in this era too with the
Speaker 2: number three, so so many different elements in play with it.
Speaker 2: But I just think watching how players interact with the
Speaker 2: fans and just how that camaraderie gets built up again
Speaker 2: after having so much time apart is always the most
Speaker 2: fun for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be keeping an eye on, certainly the
Speaker 1: kicking competition. I think it's the next step between Carlson
Speaker 1: and Joseph in terms of, you know, will there be
Speaker 1: some kind of a separation here in terms of in
Speaker 1: terms of somebody taking the lead. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot to watch in terms of we've been talking about
Speaker 1: the offensive line in terms of the backup tackle positions and.
Speaker 2: How swinging tackles huge.
Speaker 1: How the Packers are going to sort this out between
Speaker 1: Andre Dillard and Canem Telford and Caleb Jones, Caleb Caleb
Speaker 1: Jones in that mix, Luke Tanudo who you mentioned before,
Speaker 1: All these guys in the mix, all sort of with
Speaker 1: different stories in terms of how they got to this point,
Speaker 1: you know, and and battling for a for a roster spot.
Speaker 1: Uh the the depth on the Packers offensive line, because
Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly, if Jordan Morgan is potentially going
Speaker 1: to be starting at right guard, Sean Ryan, who would
Speaker 1: be a backup guard, is not a tackle, hasn't been
Speaker 1: playing tackle since he came into the NFL. Jordan Morgan,
Speaker 1: I don't think is suddenly going to bounce out to
Speaker 1: tackle as as the you know, the first guy up.
Speaker 1: If something happens there, maybe they would go that route,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem that way at this point. So,
Speaker 1: uh So, how the uh how the the swing tackle
Speaker 1: and and the depth at that position gets sorted out,
Speaker 1: I think is.
Speaker 2: Important keep in mind, I mean Zach Tom is at
Speaker 2: all times could be a back up at every single
Speaker 2: position right, which means even if it's an unrelayd to
Speaker 2: Zach Tom, there could be somebody that has to step
Speaker 2: in at that right tackle post. That's why these reps
Speaker 2: at Telford has been taking have been so critical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The other thing I'm just gonna see.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the the layout of the practice
Speaker 1: schedule is, but I'm wondering if we're going to see
Speaker 1: some of some live reps of the kickoff the new
Speaker 1: yeah right, new kiss thing, because you know they're working
Speaker 1: on it here and there in practice, but you know,
Speaker 1: we're watching from field level, and quite frankly, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to really see what's going on and and really
Speaker 1: understanding schematically, you know, kind of how this is being
Speaker 1: set up. So that the chance to watch it, and
Speaker 1: it'll be more important in the preseason games and we'll
Speaker 1: talk more about it then, but the chance to see
Speaker 1: it from up above for the first time and just
Speaker 1: and see the timing of it and just kind of
Speaker 1: the function and how it works. I'm kind of looking
Speaker 1: forward to that because because I'm hoping that we get
Speaker 1: a chance to see it.
Speaker 2: I like an inbox. You had to edit it. But
Speaker 2: somebody had asked me, like, hey, how much they've been
Speaker 2: practicing this, you know, so far this play, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: they've been practicing it. But to me, it kind of
Speaker 2: feels like an avant garde performance where I'm just sitting
Speaker 2: there like, oh, yeah, I have no idea what I'm watching. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: we don't. We just don't.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's it's a whole it's a whole
Speaker 1: new world, a brave new world.
Speaker 2: There's a lot fell special teams, there's players, there's cones,
Speaker 2: and they're figuring it out. People. You're just gonna have
Speaker 2: to trust me on that one. But you're right. I mean,
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, that's gonna be a big moment too, to
Speaker 2: see what this thing starts to look like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we've got to get out to
Speaker 1: the practice field shortly, so with that, we'll call it
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