1 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: hear from our studios at Lambellfield and West. The training 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: camp train keeps rolling along here. I feel like I've 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: been hit by it a couple of times, especially these 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: last couple of days with the hot and humid weather 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: out there at Raynichki Field. But before we get to 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: our observations of what we have seen through that steamy 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: weather on the practice field, Packers are going to be 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: wearing a white helmet. They are against the Houston Texans 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: on October twentieth. That was announced this morning. The winter 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Warning eight October all white. The white out uniforms now 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: include a white helmet. Personally, I think they look pretty sharp. 15 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: I would not want the Packers to wear them all 16 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: the time, but for one game a season, I think 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: Well, so it's the old chocolate cake analogy. I mean, 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: you enjoy having chocolate cake for dessert every once in 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: a while, you don't want to eat it for every 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: single meal, right, That's how that usually goes, but I 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: love them. I was excited about it when this all 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: started to kind of rumble up. And and I'll tell 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: you what too, I think it's gonna be such a 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: cool thing because the big promotion that's gonna be tied 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: to this with the Texans game is everybody in the 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: crowd wearing white as well, eighty thousand fans. If that 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: can come to fruition and have everybody get that buy 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: in with it going into the game, I think it 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: could be a really neat atmosphere. I've always felt even 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: with the yellow, the gold helmets, the honey gold that 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: those are such a cool look under the lights with 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: the you know, the full white uniform. But I think 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, these type of matchups, man, and you find 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: ways it's kind of like the college football sort of 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: fervor entering into the National Football League a little bit, 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: just to find ways to kind of amp up, you 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: know what. Otherwise could be somewhat just of a typical 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: October football game. I think it'll raise the stakes a 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: little bit. 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it'll be interesting to see, you know, 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: so many fans that come to lambeau Field and they 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: wear you know, the home jersey, of their favorite player, 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: like will they go get the road jersey so that 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: they wear the white you know, to to fit in 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: with the white out thing. I think it's going to 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: be pretty cool too, So something to look forward to. 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: Quick shout out to our people too. Our social team, 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: our digital team did an amazing job, Lauren Anderson Stone. 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Some of the photography that Evan Siegel got just an 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: awesome package and awesome rollout. Kudos to them on how 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: they went about unveiling this on Thursday morning. There you go, yep, 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: I know what day of the week it is. 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I do. Kudos to that career. Some 55 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff on the field West. There have been 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: two more practices since our last show, and I think 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: in a very general sense, and we'll get to maybe 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: talking about some more specific players as the show goes along, 59 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: but in a very general sense, we're starting to see 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Love and this number one offense find its rhythm 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: a little bit, Jordan Love getting his training camp legs 62 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: under him, so to speak. After observing for the first 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: four practices. Now he's been involved in running the number 64 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: one offense for four practices, we're starting to see the 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: offense make some of the plays that we're accustomed to 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: see them making. 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: And everybody getting involved in that playmaking as well. That 68 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: was as I walked away from the practice field on Wednesday, 69 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: I was thinking a lot about how you think about 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: the forty seven yard pass to Christian Watson, something that 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: him and Love had talked about because they saw the 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: safety's up, They're going to try to take advantage of it, 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: go for a big explosive play. It seems like more 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: often than not in these practices, Love has been hitting 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: Watson on some type of game breaker, some type of 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: explosive play. You look over at Jaden Reid, he doesn't 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: run the right route in one of the two minute periods, 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: but him and Love are able to connect on the field. 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Love scrambles to buy time. You can even see him 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: pointing out there where what he wants Reid to do. 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Lofts a twenty two yard pass and then they keep 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: it what ends up being a touchdown producing drive going, 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: which was finished off with don Tavian Wicks in the 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: back of the end zone. Love then throws just an 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: absolute laser on the two point conversion to convert because 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: there wasn't a kicking day, so they were down seven, 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: they had to go for two. There were so many 88 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: and then I mean Romeo Dobbs is as steady as 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: they come. So for Love to reconnect and get that 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: chemistry and get back and sync with his top four 91 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: wideouts again, I think has been so encouraging. And yeah, 92 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 2: it's not flawless, as Love talked about Xavier McKinney baited 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: him into an interception during one of the team periods, 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: but by and large, this offense, just seeing how it 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: operates now with Love back under center, it's been so smooth. 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, and offensively. Looking at the guys up front, a 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: couple of comments that are worth making here. One is 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that in that competition at right guard between Jordan Morgan 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: and Sean Ryan, we're seeing Jordan Morgan, the rookie first 100 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: round pick from Arizona, is the first guy up now 101 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: and he's been taking more of the first team reps 102 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: than Sean Ryan has. Now, you know, things can always 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: change once the preseason game get games get going and 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: all that, but it is a little bit of a 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: shift in that in how those reps are being divided, 106 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: and so that's worth keeping an eye on with regard 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: to Morgan and a guy that we haven't talked about 108 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: but certainly deserves to be talked about, is Rashid Walker 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: left tackle. Because the assumption was when Jordan Morgan was 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round with that twenty fifth overall 111 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: pick that the Packers used in April, that Okay, here's 112 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: the competition for Rashid Walker at left tackle. The former 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: seventh rout pick who settled into that job last year 114 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: did a fine job. He's going to have to hold 115 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: off a first rounder. Well, he basically held him off 116 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: through OTAs in mini camp because, as we heard from 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: Adam Stenovich, when the coaches sat down leading up to 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: training camp to look at things and decide, Okay, we 119 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: have a first round draft pick on the offensive line. 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: We want him to be able to compete for a 121 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: starting job. Where is his best opportunity to compete and 122 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: get himself into the lineup as a rookie first round pick, 123 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: they decided it was at right guard, not at left tackle. 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: And that tells you all you need to know about 125 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: how the Packers and this coaching staff and this offense 126 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: feel about Walker as he now enters year three, really 127 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: year two in terms of his playing but year three 128 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: It's the beautiful thing about the National Football League. We 130 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: just got done. I just got done going through the 131 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: top four receivers on the Packer step chart, the plays 132 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: that they're making, and then a lot of times with 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: offensive linemen, particularly the tackles, the less you hear about 134 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: them through the first week of training camp, the less 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: you hear about them in games, the better it is. 136 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: That's how Zach Tom got noticed because it was almost 137 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: like a week or two into it a couple of 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: years ago, it was like, Wow, so this guy just 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: doesn't really do anything wrong. This kind of plays the 140 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: position and holds his guy at bay in a lot 141 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: of ways. You know, Walker has been able to do 142 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: that as well. And you know he's facing extremely difficult 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: competition in the form of Preston Smith and Rashawn Gary 144 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: and really high level edge rushers in this National Football 145 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: League in practice on a daily basis, and yet you 146 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: can see how that has sort of fortified his game. 147 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: I thought Larry mcchaern in our Three Things video, I 148 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: watched that same exact play Larry did. He broke it 149 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: down more from the fundamentals the footwork and the body 150 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: be balanced, but just watching him stand up to Presto Smith. 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: There is no wide eyed glare there. He understands what 152 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: his assignment is. He executes it and over and over again. Mike, 153 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: I think back to the twenty twenty three draft and 154 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: the fact that I say the twenty twenty two draft, yeah, 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: and the fact that you know he goes in the 156 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: seventh round, and I remember looking up Sheet's name afterwards 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: and seeing these mock drafts from a year earlier that 158 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: Adam as a potential first rounder. Right. I can't tell 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: you everything that went into those that three hundred and 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: sixty five day switch, but because it's nothing wrong. The 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: guy didn't do anything wrong in a lot of ways. 162 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Kailin King deal. But that 163 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 2: being said, I think solely but surely, he's proving this 164 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: guy was supremely underdrafted and the Packers really seem to 165 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: have found a guy that could be a really lockdown 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: offensive lineman for them for years to come. 167 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, because because it speaks to the Horton's 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: and the value of player development, because during Rashid Walker's 169 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: rookie year, we were all saying, typical seventh round pick, 170 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: He's not gonna play. He's got a long way to go, 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: et cetera. And and he didn't play. He played what 172 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: was it like, four snaps on special teams his entire 173 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: rookie season. That's all he saw the field. But he developed, 174 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: he stuck with it, you know, he you know, then 175 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: he sort of gets thrown into it when David Baktiari 176 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: goes down again last season, and uh, and now you know, 177 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: and then there was for a while there was the 178 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: job sharing thing between Walker and yash Naim last season, 179 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: but you know he sort of, you know, put that 180 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: to rest and uh and lock down that position for 181 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: the stretch run last year and and uh and now 182 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: here he is. So uh so hats off to Walker 183 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: and uh, if he becomes, if he becomes what it 184 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be going to become, could 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: be one of the one of the most amazing seventh 186 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: round picks. You know, you know, there have been some 187 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: good ones in history here since the reduction of the 188 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: seventh seventh round draft. When you're talking about guys like 189 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: Scotty Wells at center and Donald Driver at wide receiver 190 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: and Mark Tauscher at offensive tackle, and guys like that 191 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: he could be talked about maybe maybe in in that 192 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: that same realm. 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly you know ways to go for him, 194 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: but the fact that he's playing a premium position as 195 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: good as Mark was, as good as Scott Wells was. 196 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: We're talking about left tackle. 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is one of these and that that that 198 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: is kind of what changes the the dialogue about it 199 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: And and before we pivot, just to throw a shout 201 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: out there to Shordan Morgan as well. This guy being 202 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: planted in at right guard the first time he's playing 203 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: that position. You were talking about how that rotation kind 204 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: of stopped in the practices we've watched this week so far, 205 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: where he's been kind of just he's he's a right 206 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: guard right now. That's where they're keeping him. I think 207 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: that's a credit to him that he's actually showed own 208 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: that too. That Okay, even though I came in here 209 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: as a tackle, I want to play tackle. I was 210 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: a college left tackle. He has stepped up to that 211 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: challenge and the Packers have allowed him to be in 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: that role different rounds in which they were selected. But 213 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, it does remind me of 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: John Runyon, who was in all big ten tackle miss 215 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: two time, all big ten times, and he actually had 216 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: to come in and I don't want to say learn guard, 217 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: but that was like, that's where you're gonna be. Yeah, 218 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: and he ended up. You saw the contract he got 219 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: this offseason. He made the most of it. Yeah. 220 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely. One other quick note on offense before he shift 221 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: gears to the defense. You mentioned the top four wide receivers, 222 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: the chemistry, the way things are developing and evolving with 223 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Jordan Love, But there's a guy further down the depth 224 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: chart at wide receiver who's potentially gonna make for a 225 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: very difficult decision for the Packers personnel folks when it's 226 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: all said and done here. Obviously it's early in training camp. 227 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten a family night or the pre 228 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: season games. But Grant Dubo's I don't want to I 229 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: don't want to say I don't want to overplay it 230 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: and make it sound like he's been a superstar every day. 231 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, you and you and I have been. 232 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: Doing this for a long time, and more than when 233 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: there's a guy, when there's a guy who shows up 234 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: and makes a player two every day on the practice field, 235 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: you can't help but notice it and then you can't 236 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: help but watch him a little bit more. Right, Grant 237 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Dubo's is starting to do that. Can he continue it? 238 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Can he make the push from after essentially a red 239 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: shirt year as a rookie where he was a seventh 240 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: round pick, dealt with injury issues, spent the whole season 241 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. But he's making a run out 242 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: a roster spot, at least from what I've seen. 243 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Mike, if you just flashed the 244 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: calendar back for a year, if you look at it 245 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: like an eight hundred race, eight hundred meter race and tracks, 246 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: two trips around the track, right the guy due to 247 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: that back injury, they were already one lap into that 248 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: thing by the time he even got on the field. 249 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: But you saw him run that one lap that he ran, 250 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: and he did it in a pretty good time. Grant 251 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Dubo's last offseason, last training camp, those two preseason games 252 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: he got in, those handful of practices looked good. The 253 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: problem was Packers end up having guys like Malik Heath. 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: They had three, you know, rookie draft picks that came in, 255 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 2: they had all the bow Melton was back. They had 256 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: so much competition at that position. Yeah, it's all still there, 257 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: and Grant Dubo's comes out in this first week of 258 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: training camp with the reps that he's gotten, with the 259 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: reps he's received, and he showed yet I was a 260 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: part of that triover rookie draft picks last year. I 261 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: was pretty darn talented coming out of Charlotte. I was 262 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: a big play machine. And seeing him high point that ball, 263 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: they in one of the number two team periods on Wednesday, 264 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: they get a free play. Sean Clifford goes back, he 265 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: throws him just a beautiful ball down the sideline. Du 266 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Bo's is double covered. 267 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, two defenders. 268 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: Evan Williams and Zane Anderson are both in coverage there 269 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: and not like playing off they're right there. But Doubo's 270 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: times his jump perfectly high points it comes down. You 271 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: know you're paying for that type of catch, and the 272 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: way he landed on his body and bounces right back 273 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: up and just the way the offense responded to that. Yeah, 274 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: And it hasn't just been that, It's been some of 275 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: the slant routes, some of the things he's doing. He 276 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: has a really natural physique and frame for the receiver position. 277 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: You could see that from the beginning, but what he's 278 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: been able to do with it in a competition that 279 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: has seven former draft picks, eight guys with NFL experience, 280 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: Grant Dubo's is very much in this thing. 281 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: If he's able to make the Packers fifty three man roster, 282 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: and even if even if he's on the practice squad again, 283 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: but who knows, he could end up be end up contributing, 284 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: as you know Bo Melton did last year when he 285 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: made the switch from the practice squad of the active roster. 286 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: However this thing works out, he becomes a heck of 287 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: a story. You when you look back at you mentioned 288 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Charlotte Packers drafted him out of Charlotte, but before that 289 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: he was at a small school I believe it was 290 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: called Miles College. Yeah, on Alabama. That a Division two 291 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: school that essentially canceled cancels football during COVID, like it 292 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: just went away, and his football career might have been 293 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: completely over at that point, like nowhere to go, nothing 294 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: to do. He ends up making his way to Charlotte, 295 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: get gets a Division One opportunity there, becomes one of 296 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: the last players picked in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, 297 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: and and here he is in probably the most crowded 298 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: position group on the Packers roster, on the playoff contender's roster, 299 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: and he's making some noise on the practice field and 300 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: trying to make a run out of roster spot. It's 301 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool to see. On the defensive side. A few 302 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: guys were talking about and I'll mention them quickly. I'll 303 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: let you elaborate if you want to. Eric Wilson turned linebacker. 304 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: He's become very quickly a special teams leader for the Packers. 305 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: But he's also not exactly getting budged out of that 306 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: third off ball linebacker spot in the four to three 307 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: base And when you watch practices, you watch the eleven 308 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: on eleven, he's around the ball all the time. And 309 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: every time you see him near the football, especially on 310 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: a running play, you're reminded, Yeah, this guy had one 311 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: hundred plus tackles one year with the Minnesota Vikings as 312 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: a starting linebacker, even though he's not a household name 313 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: by any means. You mentioned Xavier McKinney earlier. He got 314 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: an interception against Jordan Love yesterday. The day before he 315 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: dropped that interception, he got the goal line, so he 316 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of got his revenge a little bit. He was 317 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: able to hang on to the one get the pick there. 318 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: And with all the other safeties that the young safeties 319 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: that have been making plays, Xavier McKinney's starting to make 320 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: his too, and he'd would almost have two interceptions in 321 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: a row in practices if he'd hung onto the one 322 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And then King Lenigbari, his his story in 323 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: terms of his injury was was something that, as we 324 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: talked about in the spring, just unheard of in a sense. 325 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: But he's out there running around getting pressures, knocking down 326 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: passes at the line of scrimmage like like he was 327 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: never injured at all. And uh, and I think, you know, 328 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: knock on wood with Enigbari in that knee. If everything, 329 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: if everything truly is okay, he's going to be a 330 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: key player in the edge rushing rotation for this defense. 331 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to just mention quickly to you. You know, 332 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: obviously I think brab Demovsky might have been on that 333 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: that huddle as well. Uh. I really appreciate how informative 334 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: and Inggbari was on where he's at physically, because at 335 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: first he was a little bit guarded about what exactly 336 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: had happened with the knee in the locker room on Wednesday, 337 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: he went into a bit more detail. You know, he 338 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: did say, Yeah, the a cl is partially torn and 339 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: there was a time where that happens. You have to 340 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: get it repaired. Football's over. It is what it is. 341 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: But you know, he went through the rehab, He developed 342 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: the muscles around the injury, around the knee, strengthened the leg. 343 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: He feels like he's in the best shape of his 344 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: life right now. And I didn't get a chance to 345 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: ask him this myself. I would have been interested to 346 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: think to see what he thought in his mind when 347 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: he had that rep. I believe it was against Luke 348 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: Tanuda in practice on Wednesday, where I mean he pulls 349 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: off like the spin move type thing looked quick, explosive, fast. 350 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: The offensive lineman could not get a hand on him, 351 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: and he won the rep for a sack. He goes back, 352 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 2: defensive players just mauling him, high fives, all that type 353 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: of thing. This is a guy that six months ago 354 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: was sitting in the Dallas locker room with the towel 355 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: over his head, thinking that the twenty twenty four season 356 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: is probably not in the cars for him, at least 357 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: not most of it. And here he is filling out. 358 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: We're talking with all these positions, Mike, and it just 359 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: seems like you look down the list of the Green 360 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: Bay Packers man. Yes, receiver is re supremely stacked, but 361 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: like outside linebacker now, defensive end is a very talent 362 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: rich position. And even though you have Lucas van s there, Uh, 363 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: Andigbari is still right at the top of that rotation 364 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: as well. It's an exciting thing for this Packers defense 365 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see what he does with this opportunity. 366 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: It's a day to day thing, he said, he's just 367 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: got to keep monitoring where this thing goes. But from 368 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: what we've seen on the practice field, kings Landing Bari 369 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: looks like, you know, nothing had ever happened. 370 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Uh and I should I should mention as 371 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: well with regard to the defense when I bring up 372 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: Eric Wilson, that Isaiah McDuffie has been holding down that 373 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: spot with the number one defense alongside kway Walker with 374 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: with that off ball linebacker group Edger and Cooper. I 375 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: believe I saw him drop out of practice yesterday. We 376 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: haven't really had a time we're taping this, so we 377 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: haven't really gotten an update as to as to what's 378 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: up with that. But but yeah, I mean. 379 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Hats on Tuesday, we'll have an update. 380 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: Hats off to McDuffie and Wilson because because those guys, 381 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: those guys have you know, have held onto their spots 382 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: with the number one defense thus far in training camp. 383 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: They deserve a lot of credit for that. So quickly 384 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: was some sponsor business series XM. NFL Radio delivers hard 385 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 386 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, three sixty 387 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: five and had cousin subs. We have something for everyone 388 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, 389 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 390 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: sub and a bowl cousin subs. Fifty plus years of better. 391 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Last thing before we go. Next up after today's practice. 392 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: Next up will be Family Night under the Lights Lambeufield 393 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: Saturday Night. Just wanted to get your thoughts on kind 394 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: of what are you going to be watching for from 395 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: the press box? Our first, my son, our first, our 396 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: first foray, our first foray into the press box in 397 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. What are you gonna be watching for? 398 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, other than my son, we'll be attending his first 399 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: family night. Very excited about that. 400 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Does he like fireworks? 401 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: He does, Okay, he also likes like the show. 402 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we never get to see it because we're 403 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: always working, but but it is quite the show to 404 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: end the night. 405 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: He likes fireworks. He also likes sleep. We're going to 406 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: see which one prevails on Saturday night, so you know 407 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: I have family. That's one of my favorite nights of 408 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: the year. Like you said, we've never seen the fireworks. 409 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: I've never seen the Laser show. I'm usually trying to 410 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: convince players in the locker room to talk to me 411 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: for thirty four seconds. But that being said, I remember 412 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: the first It's the first event I ever covered as 413 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: a member of the Packers Beat. It was when Brandon 414 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: Ross intercepted Aaron Rodgers Oh sure, in what I think 415 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: was like an eight minute family night because of like 416 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: Thunderstrucks or something like that. And there's always moments like 417 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: that where it's an undrafted guy that makes a play. 418 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: It's somebody that shines on that stage. We're going to 419 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: see the kicking competition some more. I would imagine between 420 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: Anders Carlson and Greg Joseph it's always a neat experience 421 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: because the vibe and the energy level inside lambeau Field 422 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: with people welcoming the team back into the stadium bowl 423 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: for the first time in seven eight months, is always 424 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: just electric. So I'm very much looking forward to that 425 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: and just seeing you know, it's not the old scrimmage format. 426 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: I understand that that's been done away with for about 427 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, ten years now, but you know, the two 428 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: minute drills, We've seen some of them. We've watched some 429 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: of them in downpouring rain before. Yep. They've done live 430 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: tackling underneath Matt Lafloor in this era too with the 431 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: number three, so so many different elements in play with it. 432 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: But I just think watching how players interact with the 433 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: fans and just how that camaraderie gets built up again 434 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: after having so much time apart is always the most 435 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: fun for me. 436 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be keeping an eye on, certainly the 437 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: kicking competition. I think it's the next step between Carlson 438 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: and Joseph in terms of, you know, will there be 439 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: some kind of a separation here in terms of in 440 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: terms of somebody taking the lead. I think there's a 441 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: lot to watch in terms of we've been talking about 442 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line in terms of the backup tackle positions and. 443 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: How swinging tackles huge. 444 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: How the Packers are going to sort this out between 445 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: Andre Dillard and Canem Telford and Caleb Jones, Caleb Caleb 446 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Jones in that mix, Luke Tanudo who you mentioned before, 447 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: All these guys in the mix, all sort of with 448 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: different stories in terms of how they got to this point, 449 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, and and battling for a for a roster spot. 450 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 1: Uh the the depth on the Packers offensive line, because 451 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly, if Jordan Morgan is potentially going 452 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: to be starting at right guard, Sean Ryan, who would 453 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: be a backup guard, is not a tackle, hasn't been 454 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: playing tackle since he came into the NFL. Jordan Morgan, 455 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't think is suddenly going to bounce out to 456 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: tackle as as the you know, the first guy up. 457 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: If something happens there, maybe they would go that route, 458 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem that way at this point. So, 459 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: uh So, how the uh how the the swing tackle 460 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: and and the depth at that position gets sorted out, 461 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: I think is. 462 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: Important keep in mind, I mean Zach Tom is at 463 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: all times could be a back up at every single 464 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: position right, which means even if it's an unrelayd to 465 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: Zach Tom, there could be somebody that has to step 466 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: in at that right tackle post. That's why these reps 467 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: at Telford has been taking have been so critical. 468 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The other thing I'm just gonna see. 469 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what the the layout of the practice 470 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: schedule is, but I'm wondering if we're going to see 471 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: some of some live reps of the kickoff the new 472 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: yeah right, new kiss thing, because you know they're working 473 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: on it here and there in practice, but you know, 474 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: we're watching from field level, and quite frankly, it's it's 475 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: hard to really see what's going on and and really 476 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: understanding schematically, you know, kind of how this is being 477 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: set up. So that the chance to watch it, and 478 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: it'll be more important in the preseason games and we'll 479 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: talk more about it then, but the chance to see 480 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: it from up above for the first time and just 481 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: and see the timing of it and just kind of 482 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: the function and how it works. I'm kind of looking 483 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: forward to that because because I'm hoping that we get 484 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: a chance to see it. 485 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: I like an inbox. You had to edit it. But 486 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: somebody had asked me, like, hey, how much they've been 487 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: practicing this, you know, so far this play, And I'm like, 488 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: they've been practicing it. But to me, it kind of 489 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: feels like an avant garde performance where I'm just sitting 490 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: there like, oh, yeah, I have no idea what I'm watching. Yeah, No, 491 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: we don't. We just don't. 492 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's it's a whole it's a whole 493 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: new world, a brave new world. 494 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: There's a lot fell special teams, there's players, there's cones, 495 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: and they're figuring it out. People. You're just gonna have 496 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: to trust me on that one. But you're right. I mean, 497 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, that's gonna be a big moment too, to 498 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: see what this thing starts to look like. 499 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we've got to get out to 500 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: the practice field shortly, so with that, we'll call it 501 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 502 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of training camp and 503 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: everything going on with the team. We've got it all 504 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, Iam Mike, 505 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you 506 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: next time.