WEBVTT - AEW Revolution Recap/RAW Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all because it going everybody. Brian Albarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on or Wrestlings over Live. We are here every

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<v Speaker 1>day Monday through Friday, now Pacific three etern Sunday three Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern Monday here on this program. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>means we've got a lot to get into here today

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<v Speaker 1>as last night a w Revolution pay per view, and

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<v Speaker 1>overall it's an awesome pay per view. Five matches on

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<v Speaker 1>the main show that one could argue was the best

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<v Speaker 1>match of the night. And it really all depends on

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<v Speaker 1>what do you like in your pro wrestling. You like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>straightforward old school pro wrestling World Championship match, You got that.

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<v Speaker 1>You want a violent, bloody thumb tax chains, you got that.

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<v Speaker 1>You want two dudes as lutely just pounding each other

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<v Speaker 1>into utter oblivion. Well you certainly got that. You had

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<v Speaker 1>the the Young Bucks style crazy tag team high spot

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<v Speaker 1>match and uh they we're watching old school Japanese pro

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling battle from the eighties. You got that in the opener.

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever your cup of tea is The amazing thing

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<v Speaker 1>is not only did you get it, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've got more than you bargained for in virtually every case.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited for Kingston and Jericho. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so excited for, like a lot of these matches, but

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<v Speaker 1>that one in the Moxley Danielson match with the two

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<v Speaker 1>that I was most excited for, and incredibly, they were

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<v Speaker 1>both better. Like I had an idea in my brain

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<v Speaker 1>of what I wanted to see, and both of them

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<v Speaker 1>were better. So anyway, we can talk about that show

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<v Speaker 1>here today. There was a lot of fallout, There were

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<v Speaker 1>angles on the show. There were no title changes, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did a couple of things, particularly in the Baker match,

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<v Speaker 1>which certainly do appear to be leading towards a title change,

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<v Speaker 1>one would think. So we'll tell you about that, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course Dynamite and Rampage coming up and Raw tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got four segments announced for the show. We have

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<v Speaker 1>more matches for WrestleMania when you can expect him, plus

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<v Speaker 1>some WrestleMania updates and so much more so stick around

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to get into after the break. Rustling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>live back in the show. Bran Elba is here wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Live, Mike's and Berviti, also of Wrestling Observer at

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Man, I gotta get off this chat totally smokes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually mostly this Jingo fella. Sherry's a nice I

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<v Speaker 1>and all but man, one one take after another. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get into the pay per view last night.

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<v Speaker 1>There were twelve matches on the show and it was

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent show overall. I did not see all of

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<v Speaker 1>Layla Hirsh and Chris stad Lander. What I saw wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that great, but I'll leave that someone else to review.

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<v Speaker 1>Hook and QT was absolutely positively exactly what you would expect.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh it was five minutes and it was perfect

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<v Speaker 1>match of the night. Of course not but it was

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<v Speaker 1>Hook going in there selling a little killing q T.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was happy, and that's what you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>House of Black versus Death Triangle was like any other show.

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<v Speaker 1>This would have gotten, you know, votes for best Match

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<v Speaker 1>of the night, but because it was the pre show

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<v Speaker 1>and there were five Match of the Night contenders on

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<v Speaker 1>the main show, no one's really talking about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was an excellent match and everybody looked good. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if Eric Redbeard's coming back but they beat

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<v Speaker 1>him in the end, and it looked like he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just you know, he was there until until

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<v Speaker 1>um once his name comes back Phoenix, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he deserves a job. I like this vintner.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're aware or not. Eddie Kingston

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<v Speaker 1>beat Chris Jericho in a freaking great match. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not honestly be surprised if that actually won

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<v Speaker 1>the poll for best match of the night, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely in the running, and it had the best

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<v Speaker 1>heat of any of the other matches on the show

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<v Speaker 1>because they got the opening the opener spot, and for

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen minutes and forty seconds they just had an old

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<v Speaker 1>school Japanese pro wrestling match. Eddie Kingston beat him with

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<v Speaker 1>a stretch plum, but then Jericho refused to shake his

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<v Speaker 1>hand as he had promised and he walked off. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, there's more to come in this feud. Jurassic

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<v Speaker 1>Express beat Red Dragon and the Young Bucks. Uh complicated match,

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<v Speaker 1>simple story. Two heel teams, guess what, they couldn't coexist

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<v Speaker 1>and as the result, the Durassic Express actually had the

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<v Speaker 1>advantage and they got the win, and Red Dragon and

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<v Speaker 1>the Young Bucks continue to implode, which I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue on as Adam Cole also didn't win the title.

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<v Speaker 1>In the main event, Wardlow won the Face of the

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<v Speaker 1>Revolution ladder match, which, as of today, far as I know,

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<v Speaker 1>of all the matches in all the spots, the only

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<v Speaker 1>person who suffered what would be We don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>severity yet, but Orange Cassidy got thrown like a crazy person,

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<v Speaker 1>overshot the target, injured his shoulder. He needs an m R. I. Amazingly,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else on this entire show was hurt, including Ricky Starks,

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<v Speaker 1>who got power bombed onto a ladder, leading to award

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<v Speaker 1>Low climbing up and grabbing the brass ring. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>a shot at the TNT title. Jade Cargill beat Ty

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<v Speaker 1>Conti the only game six minutes, which you know shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been longer. Can tell you that much. It was

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<v Speaker 1>not a terrible match, It was not a great match.

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<v Speaker 1>They made it through, I think is the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it. Fans are very forgiving because I love

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<v Speaker 1>Jade Cargill. I mean, she is a star to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and she beat Tie Conti to retain the title. Ce

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<v Speaker 1>M punk m JF brutal violent dog Collar match, double juice,

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<v Speaker 1>thumb tax and finally MGF called out Wardlow for the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>but Wardlow couldn't find the ring. MGF was distracted by this.

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<v Speaker 1>He ate the GTS onto the thumb tax and then

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I found the ring? Wardlow put it on

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<v Speaker 1>the ring apron cm punk took the ring, he punched

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<v Speaker 1>MJF and he pinned him to win. Two year storyline,

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<v Speaker 1>MGF and Wardlow have broken up. And from the feedback

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<v Speaker 1>I received and saw on social media, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>watching this in a theater or a bar Wardlow finding

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<v Speaker 1>that damn ring was the biggest pop of the entire evening,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what you want for a storyline that has

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<v Speaker 1>spanned two years. Britt Baker beat thunder rosa bullet club

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<v Speaker 1>booking by Ghetto. Here interference, interference, interference, distraction, visual pin interference, interference.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's what I will say about this, okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people hated it. Believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not. I am not afraid to say that

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<v Speaker 1>there was too much interference. But there's a difference here.

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<v Speaker 1>W w E. You see this all the time because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to beat somebody, and then that's just

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. That's it. There's no like, oh, it's leading

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<v Speaker 1>to this or that, or often it'll like lead to

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<v Speaker 1>something that makes no sense, like hey, you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a bunch of interference and it's gonna lead

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<v Speaker 1>to a wrestling match. Well they did all of that

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<v Speaker 1>because and I can't see this, but looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>match they have on Wednesday and a location for a

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<v Speaker 1>match in two weeks, I believe that this leading to

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<v Speaker 1>thunder Rosea versus Britt Baker in a steel cage match

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<v Speaker 1>in thunder Rose's hometown. I think even on her birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>where thunder Rosa is going to defeat Britt Baker and

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<v Speaker 1>win the a W Women's title. So yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>hate it if you want, but there was a reason

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<v Speaker 1>they booked it the way that they did, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get that payoff. I think in uh. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's March fourteen. I think as St Patrick's Day, Darby Ellen,

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy and Sting Beat andrawd A, Matt Hardy and Isaiah Cassidy.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the whole point of this was Matt Hardy

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<v Speaker 1>took the l, he apologized. I expect him to take

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<v Speaker 1>another L. I expect the Hardy Family office to turn

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and I expect his brother Jeff Hardy to

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<v Speaker 1>make the save and the Hardy Boys reunite his baby faces.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if that happens. Moxley and Brian Danielson,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like the freaking best match and Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>They just went in there and I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to either guy, but my assumption is they

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<v Speaker 1>went in there with pretty much nothing and they just

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<v Speaker 1>had an old school calling the ring, beat the living

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of each other, kick each other to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I'm sure both of them probably needed assistance

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of bed this morning. But my God,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't fantastic and John Moxley beat him with a cradle

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<v Speaker 1>reversing a triangle. They got in a big fight afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are two dudes that are just prideful and

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<v Speaker 1>violent and who should come out to head butt and

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<v Speaker 1>slap sents into them. But William regal Bro I've said

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<v Speaker 1>a million times I look at all these a W

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<v Speaker 1>shows and they're they're extremely competently booked, as you can

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<v Speaker 1>see by Tony Khan winning Best Book or two years

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<v Speaker 1>straight now. And I was trying to figure out like

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<v Speaker 1>where they're going and what they're doing and whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I figured Moxi was winning this match because the story

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<v Speaker 1>was he never beaten Brian Danielson, and Danielson said, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to bleed with a guy before a team with him,

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<v Speaker 1>so I knew there would be blood, and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>there would be violence. So it's like every thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew what was going to happen, but I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not think that they were going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>fighting afterwards and William Regal Lord Regal would come out

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<v Speaker 1>slap it headbuts sent to them, put them on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page and they shake hands. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times better than I would have imagined. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have a friend, by the way, if you love this match,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a buddy who who texted me you know

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<v Speaker 1>that this was like just the greatest match he ever

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<v Speaker 1>saw in his life. And then this morning he texted

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<v Speaker 1>me he said, I can't believe I'm saying this, but

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<v Speaker 1>this might be the second best match I saw this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, that's impossible, and then he explained that

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<v Speaker 1>the other match was is She and Shingo, And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he might be right. So I gotta watch

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<v Speaker 1>that match. Holy smokes, if he thought that match was

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe better than Moxy and Danielson, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's possible. But if there's a match, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is a match that could be better than this one,

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<v Speaker 1>I can believe that would be the match. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Page be Adam Cole in a excellent world title match.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the fans were tired. They were doing joke chance,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go Adam. Adam sucks, but hey, at least it

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<v Speaker 1>was heat. But then the longer this went, it stopped

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<v Speaker 1>being joke chance and it turned into Hangman and Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Chance and man, they loved them some Adam Cole

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<v Speaker 1>because when Hangman Page got revenge for being duct taped

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<v Speaker 1>to the ropes and he tied Adam Cold into the

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<v Speaker 1>ropes with his belt and started super kicking, the fans

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<v Speaker 1>turned on the Hangman. I don't think they were expecting that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got the win, retained the title. Bro. This

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<v Speaker 1>meant this show. I mean, it wasn't perfect, but my god,

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<v Speaker 1>was it fantastic. Mike's gonna give his thoughts after the

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<v Speaker 1>break everybody, because we have a break coming up. According

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<v Speaker 1>to my calculations true, and we'll get into more afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in a moment, its ever Live. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think of this show? Michael? It was the best e

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<v Speaker 1>W show there's ever been. I dare say that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Full Gear and last Year's All Out, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been some really good shows, but I thought top to

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<v Speaker 1>bottom this was pretty amazing for a twelve match show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I come from that old New Japan stead where

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<v Speaker 1>a five hour show quarterly isn't gonna I feel links,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all, not especially not with the variety that

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<v Speaker 1>this show had. I understand. Look, I'll take six shows

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<v Speaker 1>a year that are paired back a little bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to complain about that. I am an old man,

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<v Speaker 1>but with them only running four shows a year at

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<v Speaker 1>this level, I completely understand why they did what they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought they offered so much variety. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody could complain about it. I thought Layla Hirsh

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<v Speaker 1>Chris stat Lander, it was good, it was solid, it

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<v Speaker 1>was finishing off telling that little story that they've had

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<v Speaker 1>between the two. I thought it was you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>another era, they would have a super show start off

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<v Speaker 1>like this with a ten minute draw. I'll take a

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<v Speaker 1>nine minute and fifty second victory over Layla Hirsh And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's gonna happen with Lord Regal, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to add a woman into the mix

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<v Speaker 1>as far as giving her something that stands out, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think lay La Hersha around a group like that

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<v Speaker 1>would work out very nicely. The thing was of the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve matches by far the twelve pest match on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>hooking q T Marshall. You know that it was awesome

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<v Speaker 1>for what it was. I would have actually, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to end the pre show with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that would have been a perfect way to

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<v Speaker 1>go off the air with everybody going nuts after him

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<v Speaker 1>crushing QT. But then again, how they did it with

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<v Speaker 1>the All Universe Varsity Club of Malachi Black, Brody King

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<v Speaker 1>and Buddy Matthews. I mean, they're tremendous, they really are,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's so many things you could do with them,

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<v Speaker 1>And because it's not w w E, the odds of

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<v Speaker 1>them sticking together as a group for a significant period

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<v Speaker 1>of time is great and I would love to see

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<v Speaker 1>what they decide to do with them. Eric Redbrard, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to give him a job it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hurt my feelings, not my money. Have no problem

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<v Speaker 1>with him being on the roster whatsoever and in the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't want to, I do like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of bringing him in every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>If it has something to do with the Dark Order,

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<v Speaker 1>if it now has something to do with the the

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<v Speaker 1>Death Triangle, if it's got something to do with that,

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in, you know, as regular basis. They got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people anyway. I don't know if he fits,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, I'm down for anything. Then you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the main roster and it was just it was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kingston and Chris Jericho. I don't know if Jericho,

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<v Speaker 1>being a veteran, looked at this card and said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, let's get out there early. Everybody else is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to steal the show. We'd like to to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to open up this show with this crowd

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<v Speaker 1>being as fresh as possible. And he goes out there

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<v Speaker 1>and gets thrown in that half and half by Eddie Kingston,

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<v Speaker 1>lands on his head. I mean, what a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a way to start the show. How he sold that

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was off to the races. That was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the tag match was great. Is wordlow winning

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<v Speaker 1>is what it was supposed to be with that ladder match,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm cool with the ladder match. I they have

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<v Speaker 1>got to get rid of the brass ring. I think

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<v Speaker 1>A or G c W need to get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else that does a take off of the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>There's got to be another way. There's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a different thing that you can put up there for

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<v Speaker 1>them to grab. I think it looks so cheap, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks so cheesy. It's like, you know, here's his owning moment,

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<v Speaker 1>well the second crowning moment of the night for him

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately at the end, and he's standing up there holding

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<v Speaker 1>a big gold glaze donut. And I didn't like it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>J Cargils a superstar. That match was perfect to have

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<v Speaker 1>on there, and A J was a perfect person with

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<v Speaker 1>enough name value for JA to beat on the main show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, another short match. You know that people won't

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<v Speaker 1>complain about whatsoever. Cargirls a star. She can only go

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<v Speaker 1>up from here. CM Punk M JF was probably my

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<v Speaker 1>match of the night. I thought it was absolutely outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Baker, as you mentioned with thunder Rosa that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is building towards thunder Rosen winning that title somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Moxley and Danielson, if you want to call it the

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<v Speaker 1>match of the night, I'm not going to complain about

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<v Speaker 1>that either. Just a incredible showing between those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>going all out doing what they wanted to do when

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<v Speaker 1>they left w W E. I'm not saying it's the

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<v Speaker 1>pinnacle for these two guys, because God knows where they

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<v Speaker 1>can go from here, but I thought that was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>And with Lord Regal coming out there at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>the odds that you're gonna have a group with Moriarty

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<v Speaker 1>and Utah and Garcia, you know that's looking like it

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<v Speaker 1>could come more to pass. Sting. I remember watching Sting

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<v Speaker 1>in six when I was ten years old. Last night,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up too early on Sunday, so I fell

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<v Speaker 1>asleep during the pay per view. My old ass at

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<v Speaker 1>forty six years old, just turned forty six years old. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three year old Sting as he's about to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks, here he's doing dives through tables.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just an absolutely unbelievable performance. The video package

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<v Speaker 1>they had, and this is another thing when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to video packages in two less is more. The less

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<v Speaker 1>you do them, the more they mean, especially when there

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<v Speaker 1>is unique. Is what you had there with Darby Allen

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<v Speaker 1>Sting and that stuff before the match. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible. One thing you didn't mention Swerve signing his

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<v Speaker 1>contract coming out there. Will he be a baby face?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he be a hell? I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know for a fact he's a hell in defy. And

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<v Speaker 1>that match with Nick Wayne is up for free. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for something else to watch that took

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<v Speaker 1>place last weekend that just went up, that's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to watch because that was awesome. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Hangman Page and Adam Cole. I was not a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of the build leading into the thing. All

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<v Speaker 1>that goes out the window once the bell rings. Very

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<v Speaker 1>good performance by Hangman Out and Page again. Adam Cole

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<v Speaker 1>not dead by any means. Got to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do with him. And this whole realm

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<v Speaker 1>going on that you have with the Elite and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bullet Club and all these other factions and everything else

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I think he needs now. It's time to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild him up nicely to get him back at a

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<v Speaker 1>level that I don't think that he's at right now,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he had a hell of a match with

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman Out and Page. So that's enough out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was hell and a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>night for them, and I think ultimately up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>they may have had quote unquote better matches maybe on

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<v Speaker 1>other shows, especially with the shows that Kenny Omega was on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd say from top to bottom, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was their best showing by far. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are wherever this or not, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>a feature writer for Sports Illustrated and I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>new article coming out here today. He'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>find on my Twitter at Bran Alvarez. But I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help a note in that article. Then on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>the day w did this fantastic show, w w E

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<v Speaker 1>also ran Madison Square Garden. Do you guys remember this story, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I remember this story. So what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>w w E. You know Madison Square Garden. It's there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there, you know, their mecca, and they hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>drawn all that great, and so they wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure for this Madison Square Garden show that they did

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<v Speaker 1>huge business, and so what did they do to build

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<v Speaker 1>up this show? Everybody? While I went on television and

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<v Speaker 1>they ACTU really promoted a house show. They actually talked

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<v Speaker 1>about MSG this Saturday, and they said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's expecting that Lesner versus Roman Reigns is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Champion versus Champion title for title match at WrestleMania,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest match since Warrior and Hogan, but it might

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<v Speaker 1>not be title for title because this Saturday, they said

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<v Speaker 1>at Madison Square Garden, brock Lessner might lose that championship

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<v Speaker 1>belt to a mystery opponent. They built it up, and

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<v Speaker 1>they built it up. It was literally they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>did the worthy opponent, Paul Hayman said, a worthy opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>Their most watched segments with Lessner and Reins, they kept

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this match in this storyline, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you heard about Madison Square Garden, well what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was they had a Roman Reigns Championship defense, which was

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<v Speaker 1>funny because they they actually announced it would be Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Rains versus seth Rawlins and then they pulled the advertising,

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<v Speaker 1>but it end up being Roman Rains Versus seth Rawlins.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually I don't know, Like there's two options here.

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<v Speaker 1>One they're incompetent and they were they they changed their mind,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we changed it back to the original. Or

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing is, well, man, if we tell people

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<v Speaker 1>seth Rawlins, like, you know, so let's not say who

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and maybe people will think it's like someone

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<v Speaker 1>else and nailed buy a ticket, you know, Cody, but

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<v Speaker 1>with seth Rawlins and then the match was like three minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like nothing happening match. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard from people there that they were disappointed with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's time for the big main event that

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<v Speaker 1>they've been building up on television. Who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come out the worthy opponent to challenge and perhaps beat

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<v Speaker 1>brock Lesner to screw up all of the WrestleMania Champion verse.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin theory. Austin theory was the big surprise, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>never guess what happened in the match. Ruck just brutalizing

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<v Speaker 1>and killed the guy and beat him. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I was just thinking about this and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, so let's let's forget this show. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the last time you did Madison

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<v Speaker 1>Squadore and you didn't draw very well. Why was that

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of matches nobody wanted to see? Lack of stars,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, why why didn't you draw? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>now you have an idea you're going to draw this time,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the way, I don't have the I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the exact numbers. But they didn't draw that

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<v Speaker 1>well even with all the promotion. So this time you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna try to get people in that may

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<v Speaker 1>not have wanted to go in the first place. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, you know what, if you weren't thinking of going,

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<v Speaker 1>well you should think about going, because we're gonna promote

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<v Speaker 1>it on television and we're gonna have a special secret

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<v Speaker 1>opponent for brock Listener that could screw up all of

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<v Speaker 1>the on storyline plans for for WrestleMania. So you went

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<v Speaker 1>to the trouble to do that, to try to sell tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>to boost your image in Madison Square Garden, to get

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<v Speaker 1>people that weren't thinking of going to go, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was what you gave them. That was what you delivered

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<v Speaker 1>Austin theory against brock Lesser in the main event. So

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<v Speaker 1>the point of all of this is I watched that

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<v Speaker 1>a W pay per view, and they they they promised

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of stuff, And was there one thing

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<v Speaker 1>on that show where you got less than you expected?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there one thing on that show where you got

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<v Speaker 1>less than you expected? Because I watched that show, and

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<v Speaker 1>one match after another, I got more than I expected.

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<v Speaker 1>I got angles, I got surprise debuts, I got matches

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<v Speaker 1>that were better than I expected going in. It was

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to see the contrast between what w W E

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<v Speaker 1>did for Madison Square Garden and what a W did

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<v Speaker 1>for The Revolution Paper You Mike Thoughts after the breaks

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<v Speaker 1>over alive back in the show Bright nowbre is here

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer Live Make Number viv also Wrestling Observer dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to mention very quickly that the

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<v Speaker 1>final number of tickets distributed for the MSG show was hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>That's distributed, so the number of tickets they actually sold

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<v Speaker 1>to wrestling fans was under eight hundred. So overall they

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<v Speaker 1>were with all that promotion on television and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the promises and angles on TV for the house show,

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<v Speaker 1>they were up from December, and that extra that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>paid their money. Yeah, see what happens next time they

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<v Speaker 1>do MSG thoughs on this, Mike, Well, if I'm considering

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<v Speaker 1>the record to MSG in the last time around, we

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>were going back to the thirties to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the times that they have drawn less paid attendance,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling they're not going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Garden anytime soon. Now, when they go back to the Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>or to Barclays or out to the Island, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a different story. But I I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have a feeling for the next Garden. I would

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<v Speaker 1>assume that therey will probably be six months from now,

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<v Speaker 1>and they probably will have a much better plan going

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<v Speaker 1>into it, or at least i'd like to hope. So.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember how we were talking about that whole deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the w w E schedule, and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>know somewhere I have one of those pay per view

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<v Speaker 1>flyers that they used to send out back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day to hype all of these events. Remember that, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I found one, and it's from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one. Finally the Rock SummerSlam here from Comcast. Even

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<v Speaker 1>it would be the things that they would send out

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>WWFN Natic series that they would have on pay per

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 1>view the best of WWF all month long. August, Hard

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Knocks and Cheap Pops, September, Divas and Hedonism. Boy Tris

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Stratis is nice energy anyway and somehow amazingly actually not

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>somehow she's just has gotten better looking as she has

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>gotten older. But then again doesn't matter right now. What

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>matters is there was an actual schedule that they did

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>have an entire calendar. Now, unfortunately, you know, you you'd

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>have to go to the observer to actually make up,

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you'd have to go to the observer to actually get

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the cities that they were going to be in. But

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>on this right here, as you see, starting with Unforgiven

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>on September twenty second, two thousand and one, we will

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.719
<v Speaker 1>scroll up and we have a whole set of shows

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>leading in to Summer Slam coming up August two thousand

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and two. So so that's from what two thousand one

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you're telling us about two thousand one. Yeah, and it

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>would have uh nick On's email because I want to

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>make sure I sent him that poster. So whoever convinced

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>him that they didn't announce shows in advance and that

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this was a revolutionary concept that would turn to business

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>around somebody call this, I got a bridge out back

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>made of gold if somebody will actually respond to that sale,

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.719
<v Speaker 1>but you only get the deed anyway. A couple of

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>notes raw Tonight Edge will addresses attack on a j

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>from last week. The Miss and Logan Paul will throw

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a homecoming celebration, Jerry Lawler will make a special guest appearance,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and Alpha Academy will defend against r K bro and

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Seth Wallins and Kevin Owens, who are number one contenders,

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>but only in three way matches. Okay, then we got

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania lineup. So for those of you that haven't bought

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>your tickets yet, but after that MSG show you're clamoring

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to get a wrestle Menia ticket, we got Night one Saturday,

0:27:55.520 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>April two, Charlotte versus Rhonda Rousy, Becky Lynch versus Beyond

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Anka Ray and Dominic versus MS and Logan Paul and

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Drew mcintyrell face Happy Corbin Night too. We have Roman

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Reigns versus brock Lessner, Pat McAfee versus Austin Theory, and

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Zane versus Johnny Knoxville. For those of you that

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>are all on the oh Dave was wrong. Vince McMahon

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>was not gonna have well, the line up for WrestleMania

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>internally listed Vince McMahon versus Pat McAfee. So if you're mad,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like they'b be mad at Dave Mattet whoever was running

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that copy machine. But the point of this is, although

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>at this point it is Austin theory versus Pat McAfee,

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>there's weeks to go before WrestleMania. That way, that's the

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say, it's within the realm of possibility that

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it was not going to be Vince in the match,

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be somebody representing Vince, whether that

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the Austin theory, whether they have say Steve Austin decides

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm out, or whatever it's gonna be. Maybe you need

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>something for Kevin Owens, whatever the deal is going to be.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't actually gonna be Vince wrestling, but obviously

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it's going to have something to do with Vince. It's

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>just for Austin theory. And again we're not going to

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>get into this topic because I tend to fall more

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>on your side. But for everybody out there that says, well,

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>tell me you know how you can't screw up braun

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Breaker or how you can screw up prawn Breaker. Here's

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>how you do it. You said him with Vince backstage,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>where you have him go in these ridiculous promo sessions

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and have ridiculous interactions and have Vince tell braun Breaker

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>that you know, if he does something wrong, he's going

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to tell his mother and go after his mother or

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was that he told Austin Theory. So yeah,

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're seeing it with Theory right now. This

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. And I'm sure they're saying he's getting a

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>rub by getting f fived in every which way by

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>brock Lesner, but it's not. And we're not seeing this

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>guy develop in the way that we know he can

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and how he should because we've seen him throughout his

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>entire career up to this point. And it's like the

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>only thing that's retarded the process so far is actually

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to Vince McMahon. But I watched n x

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>T two pointo, and this guy has been a geek

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>from day one. He was Johnny Gargano's son, his son,

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I know. But when they look and when they brought

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>him up and they were gonna do look where he

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>was gonna, I know, and when he was gonna be

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>an acolyte of of uh seth rollins. Remember that short

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>second that he was going to do that. I thought

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that was a terrible idea too. I just and you

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>just see how they fumble over and over, and I

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just I don't get it. I just don't understand. So anyway,

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Steve Austin may Or may not be doing a match

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>at WrestleMania, but he is at this point still gonna

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>be there, and he's still gonna do something with Kevin Owens,

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>so you know they they want him, man, And uh,

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's the thing, everybody, here's the thing. Here's

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Owen's getting stunned. Okay, So if we want

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to be semantic about this, there's either gonna be like

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a segment that leads to a short brawl and Kevin

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Owens gets stunned, or we're gonna have a short match

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Owens gets stunned. So like, if you're really

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be all up in arms about it, well, well,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, they brawled for three minutes and then it

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>was a stunner, but they didn't ring the bell, so

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>he didn't wrestle or they wrestle for three minutes, and

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>he stunned wrote that you're gonna get one or the other. Okay,

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna do I'll tell you this for sure.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>They ain't going fifteen minutes. They ain't going seventeen minutes. Okay,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>if Steve Austin does a match, it's gonna be a

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>relatively short match. I'm not thinking it's gonna be like

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>ten seconds, but it's gonna be on the shorter end,

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna end with a stunner. Or there's going

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a segment that leads to a brawl and

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a stunner. So you don't get

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the other. Oh how about this, you get

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a brawl and Kevin owens and saying, you know, have

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>any guts actually faced me in a match. You're gonna

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>show up and find you you've been scared to face me,

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You're scared to come back. And then Steve Aoston goes, well,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>hell kid, you know, hit the bell, and then he

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>gives him a stunner and pins him, and then three

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>second match pours the beard and nobody gives a crap

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>because they saw Steve Boston and Kevin Owens and everybody's happy,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially know who's really gonna be happy. That's

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be Kevin Owens. So everybody would be a winner

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>in that exchange no matter what they do, as long

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>as Steve Auston shows up. And I know they have

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>not promoted him, they haven't mentioned him. It's all in

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the fans for hyping this up. But the reality is,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>damn it, You're in Texas. How can you have a

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Texas WrestleMania without Stone called Steve Auston? And the way

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>this is going with Kevin Owens, who else is it

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be? It ain't gonna be Kevin von Eric Who's

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>going to save Texas? All Right? Gary Hart dead and

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>even if he was a lie, he would be making

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>fun of Texas. There's no Dick Murdock, There's no Dusty Rhodes.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Who is going to take up for Texas if not

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>for Stone Cold Steve Auston. Alright. Notes from the press

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>conference last night, Tony Khn does plan to continue a

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honors wrestling operations after acquiring the company, and

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it says he will serve as the booker. So I'm

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>not sure what that means for Delirious. I mean, is

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>this gonna be Tony con Is, Vince McMahon and Delirious

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>is you know, Shaun Michaels or whoever, in the sense

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that you know, Tony will give him the overall picture

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and he does the day by day or is he

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to be employed? I don't know who's gonna

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>ask about that. I mean, everybody has been released, right

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>do we even know if Delirious is employed? He is

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>employed because he was. He was in charge of doing

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the stuff that they were doing on

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>television in the meantime, So yeah, he was. They just

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>got rid of all of the well and look, and

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I know people are going, well, he can't do this

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. I know there's a lot on his

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>plate as it is. And it's like, you know, the

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>more frankly looking at this one of a sports point

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>of view, the more he can get out of football

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and and proper football, and the more you invest himself

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 1>in wrestling, that might be the best thing for him

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and everybody else anyway. And if Ring of Honor is

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>only going to run a couple of weekends or you know, there,

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a slow motion process to get the

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>thing jump started and kick started. You know who knows

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Again I I'm not super sour on that, although it's

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot on his plate. But if he again, we'll

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>just have to see how things play out. It's so

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>early right now, we have no idea what direction things

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>are gonna go. Oh all right, hey, what else do

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>we have here today? Rampage different times slot. Later this month, Friday,

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>March eighteen, eleven, thirty pm Eastern, there'll be the four

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>first run n C Double A men's basketball tournaments on

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>TNT that day, first one starting at one twenty eastern,

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>last one scheduled to tip off at nine at twenty eastern,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>And so they'll be out of their normal time slot,

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>which last time they are their normal time slot, they

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>actually a better than eighteen forty nine, but worse than

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>viewers that game in those games tend to sometimes they'll

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>go late, So just check your DVR and if you

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>have an older DVR two that doesn't catch up or

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>has got some sort of issue or something like that,

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>make sure you extend out the time. MSG Gate six

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand was a number, by the way, for all

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of that work. Six d dollars. Guys know that the

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>douvil or Nothing shows, Broken Million show coming up in May.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Tickets just went on sale a couple days ago. Where's

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that show at though it's in Las Vegas. Yeah, shows

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>in Madison Square Garden and tickets were ungodly high. Well

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>they were doll gate they've the last time around. They

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.919
<v Speaker 1>were in that middle of running things way too much.

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And then because they just added shows on top of shows,

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and look, I they're full scophy with the Garden. It

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>does not mean what it once did. And it kills

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>me to say a little bit because you know, but look,

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like for boxing, it's just not the mecca for

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that stuff anymore. I still love the building, so I

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 1>love seeing the Knicks and the Rangers in it, but

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>for as far as wrestling goes, I mean, Barclays is

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>really their spot. And again I have a feeling the

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>next time to go back to the Garden, they're gonna

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>have to give people a reason to go, and they're

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to give people a reason for those ticket

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>prices because otherwise there's a help a lot of the

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>things you can do on a Saturday night, man on

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and we've got Vader going into the w w E

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame joins the Undertaker, as the other inductee

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>already announced passed away in at the age of sixty three,

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>one most Improved the Observer Awards and one of the

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>great big men of all time and wrestling. So Vader

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>is going into the Hall of Fame. Shame. Well, you know,

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say that. Maybe there were some things I'm

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>not privy too, but I know he was one of

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 1>those guys where there were a lot of people, including himself,

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that really wanted to see him, get him when he

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>was still alive, And unfortunately that's not the case now.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And they go ahead and they make the move. So

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hopefully they get somebody who was familiar with him in

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>his career to actually give him a proper good induction,

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>touch on his stuff in Japan, touch on his time

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>in the a w A, in Germany, all these other

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>places where this guy was a true legendary international star,

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean not the highest order, he really really is.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>And Carry Silkin has been honors part of the promotion's

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>inaugural Hall of Fame Class Carrie Silkin a special Hall

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>of Fame edition of r O HTV that aired this

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>weekend was presented with the first ever Ring of Honor

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame Legacy Award. Award will be known as

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the Carry Silkin Legacy Award going forward, Back in the

0:37:51.920 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Up with Mobs or Live Back in the Show. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live mixumbur bby also Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer dot Com. A couple of notes about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>from now to Pacific five Eastern, myself and Filthy Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Lawler SmackDown New Japan, Strong and more. I'll get your shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>get my shirt. Yeah, the shirts came in Filthy Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Wawler shirts. I didn't get a shirt. Well, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>buy a shirt to support him and try to get

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<v Speaker 1>him into the g one. Brian, you didn't buy a

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<v Speaker 1>shirt from Filthy Tom Wawler. You don't have a shirt

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<v Speaker 1>that says to Brian Alvarez from Filthy to stay filthy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have this? How do you not have this?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody should have this. They should go to New Japan

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<v Speaker 1>shop right now n J p W nineteen seventy do

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, Goo, follow him on Twitter find out where

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a Filthy Tom Lawler shirt. You should

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<v Speaker 1>have one of these anyway, he'll be on in an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and you can plug his own stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we got a very special show which is so

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<v Speaker 1>special that it will be airing on both Twitch and

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube only for subscribers. If you're a Twitch homie or

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube subscriber, you can watch it live at nine

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific midnight Eastern Tomorrow night, the Ode to Rob Bartlett

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Brianan Video Show. As it is his

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<v Speaker 1>final show. We've been watching the retro ross from episode one.

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<v Speaker 1>We are now at episode thirteen. Unlucky thirteen for Rob Bartlett,

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<v Speaker 1>this final lever show. We got songs coming in oh

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<v Speaker 1>to Rob Bartlett. Songs you can send those thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 1>or less MP three thirty seconds or less MP three

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<v Speaker 1>to Briant Wrestling observer at dot com. We got poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna review Raw thirteen. It's gonna be so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun live for paying Twitch homies and pay YouTube top

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<v Speaker 1>tier subscribers. That's tomorrow night and land Storm tomorrow afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We'll get his thoughts on everything going on

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<v Speaker 1>with him JF and see him punk follow up. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for It's coming up tomorrow. Everybody a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>get into we'll talk to you next time. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike has always colors and listeners everybody's studio that'stle Can

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