Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: means we've got a lot to get into here today
Speaker 1: as last night a w Revolution pay per view, and
Speaker 1: overall it's an awesome pay per view. Five matches on
Speaker 1: the main show that one could argue was the best
Speaker 1: match of the night. And it really all depends on
Speaker 1: what do you like in your pro wrestling. You like, uh,
Speaker 1: straightforward old school pro wrestling World Championship match, You got that.
Speaker 1: You want a violent, bloody thumb tax chains, you got that.
Speaker 1: You want two dudes as lutely just pounding each other
Speaker 1: into utter oblivion. Well you certainly got that. You had
Speaker 1: the the Young Bucks style crazy tag team high spot
Speaker 1: match and uh they we're watching old school Japanese pro
Speaker 1: wrestling battle from the eighties. You got that in the opener.
Speaker 1: So whatever your cup of tea is The amazing thing
Speaker 1: is not only did you get it, but I think
Speaker 1: you've got more than you bargained for in virtually every case.
Speaker 1: I was so excited for Kingston and Jericho. I was
Speaker 1: so excited for, like a lot of these matches, but
Speaker 1: that one in the Moxley Danielson match with the two
Speaker 1: that I was most excited for, and incredibly, they were
Speaker 1: both better. Like I had an idea in my brain
Speaker 1: of what I wanted to see, and both of them
Speaker 1: were better. So anyway, we can talk about that show
Speaker 1: here today. There was a lot of fallout, There were
Speaker 1: angles on the show. There were no title changes, but
Speaker 1: they did a couple of things, particularly in the Baker match,
Speaker 1: which certainly do appear to be leading towards a title change,
Speaker 1: one would think. So we'll tell you about that, And
Speaker 1: of course Dynamite and Rampage coming up and Raw tonight.
Speaker 1: We've got four segments announced for the show. We have
Speaker 1: more matches for WrestleMania when you can expect him, plus
Speaker 1: some WrestleMania updates and so much more so stick around
Speaker 1: a lot to get into after the break. Rustling Observer
Speaker 1: live back in the show. Bran Elba is here wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Live, Mike's and Berviti, also of Wrestling Observer at
Speaker 1: dot com. Man, I gotta get off this chat totally smokes.
Speaker 1: It's actually mostly this Jingo fella. Sherry's a nice I
Speaker 1: and all but man, one one take after another. All right,
Speaker 1: so let's get into the pay per view last night.
Speaker 1: There were twelve matches on the show and it was
Speaker 1: an excellent show overall. I did not see all of
Speaker 1: Layla Hirsh and Chris stad Lander. What I saw wasn't
Speaker 1: that great, but I'll leave that someone else to review.
Speaker 1: Hook and QT was absolutely positively exactly what you would expect.
Speaker 1: And uh it was five minutes and it was perfect
Speaker 1: match of the night. Of course not but it was
Speaker 1: Hook going in there selling a little killing q T.
Speaker 1: Everybody was happy, and that's what you need to do.
Speaker 1: House of Black versus Death Triangle was like any other show.
Speaker 1: This would have gotten, you know, votes for best Match
Speaker 1: of the night, but because it was the pre show
Speaker 1: and there were five Match of the Night contenders on
Speaker 1: the main show, no one's really talking about it. But
Speaker 1: it was an excellent match and everybody looked good. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Eric Redbeard's coming back but they beat
Speaker 1: him in the end, and it looked like he was
Speaker 1: kind of just you know, he was there until until
Speaker 1: um once his name comes back Phoenix, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think he deserves a job. I like this vintner.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware or not. Eddie Kingston
Speaker 1: beat Chris Jericho in a freaking great match. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would not honestly be surprised if that actually won
Speaker 1: the poll for best match of the night, because it
Speaker 1: was absolutely in the running, and it had the best
Speaker 1: heat of any of the other matches on the show
Speaker 1: because they got the opening the opener spot, and for
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes and forty seconds they just had an old
Speaker 1: school Japanese pro wrestling match. Eddie Kingston beat him with
Speaker 1: a stretch plum, but then Jericho refused to shake his
Speaker 1: hand as he had promised and he walked off. So
Speaker 1: thank god, there's more to come in this feud. Jurassic
Speaker 1: Express beat Red Dragon and the Young Bucks. Uh complicated match,
Speaker 1: simple story. Two heel teams, guess what, they couldn't coexist
Speaker 1: and as the result, the Durassic Express actually had the
Speaker 1: advantage and they got the win, and Red Dragon and
Speaker 1: the Young Bucks continue to implode, which I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: continue on as Adam Cole also didn't win the title.
Speaker 1: In the main event, Wardlow won the Face of the
Speaker 1: Revolution ladder match, which, as of today, far as I know,
Speaker 1: of all the matches in all the spots, the only
Speaker 1: person who suffered what would be We don't know the
Speaker 1: severity yet, but Orange Cassidy got thrown like a crazy person,
Speaker 1: overshot the target, injured his shoulder. He needs an m R. I. Amazingly,
Speaker 1: nobody else on this entire show was hurt, including Ricky Starks,
Speaker 1: who got power bombed onto a ladder, leading to award
Speaker 1: Low climbing up and grabbing the brass ring. He gets
Speaker 1: a shot at the TNT title. Jade Cargill beat Ty
Speaker 1: Conti the only game six minutes, which you know shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been longer. Can tell you that much. It was
Speaker 1: not a terrible match, It was not a great match.
Speaker 1: They made it through, I think is the best way
Speaker 1: to put it. Fans are very forgiving because I love
Speaker 1: Jade Cargill. I mean, she is a star to them,
Speaker 1: and she beat Tie Conti to retain the title. Ce
Speaker 1: M punk m JF brutal violent dog Collar match, double juice,
Speaker 1: thumb tax and finally MGF called out Wardlow for the ring,
Speaker 1: but Wardlow couldn't find the ring. MGF was distracted by this.
Speaker 1: He ate the GTS onto the thumb tax and then
Speaker 1: guess what I found the ring? Wardlow put it on
Speaker 1: the ring apron cm punk took the ring, he punched
Speaker 1: MJF and he pinned him to win. Two year storyline,
Speaker 1: MGF and Wardlow have broken up. And from the feedback
Speaker 1: I received and saw on social media, if you were
Speaker 1: watching this in a theater or a bar Wardlow finding
Speaker 1: that damn ring was the biggest pop of the entire evening,
Speaker 1: which is what you want for a storyline that has
Speaker 1: spanned two years. Britt Baker beat thunder rosa bullet club
Speaker 1: booking by Ghetto. Here interference, interference, interference, distraction, visual pin interference, interference.
Speaker 1: And here's what I will say about this, okay, because
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people hated it. Believe me,
Speaker 1: I am not. I am not afraid to say that
Speaker 1: there was too much interference. But there's a difference here.
Speaker 1: W w E. You see this all the time because
Speaker 1: they don't want to beat somebody, and then that's just
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. There's no like, oh, it's leading
Speaker 1: to this or that, or often it'll like lead to
Speaker 1: something that makes no sense, like hey, you know we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a bunch of interference and it's gonna lead
Speaker 1: to a wrestling match. Well they did all of that
Speaker 1: because and I can't see this, but looking at a
Speaker 1: match they have on Wednesday and a location for a
Speaker 1: match in two weeks, I believe that this leading to
Speaker 1: thunder Rosea versus Britt Baker in a steel cage match
Speaker 1: in thunder Rose's hometown. I think even on her birthday,
Speaker 1: where thunder Rosa is going to defeat Britt Baker and
Speaker 1: win the a W Women's title. So yeah, you can
Speaker 1: hate it if you want, but there was a reason
Speaker 1: they booked it the way that they did, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get that payoff. I think in uh. I think
Speaker 1: it's March fourteen. I think as St Patrick's Day, Darby Ellen,
Speaker 1: Sammy and Sting Beat andrawd A, Matt Hardy and Isaiah Cassidy.
Speaker 1: I believe the whole point of this was Matt Hardy
Speaker 1: took the l, he apologized. I expect him to take
Speaker 1: another L. I expect the Hardy Family office to turn
Speaker 1: on him, and I expect his brother Jeff Hardy to
Speaker 1: make the save and the Hardy Boys reunite his baby faces.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if that happens. Moxley and Brian Danielson,
Speaker 1: So this is like the freaking best match and Bro.
Speaker 1: They just went in there and I don't know, I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to either guy, but my assumption is they
Speaker 1: went in there with pretty much nothing and they just
Speaker 1: had an old school calling the ring, beat the living
Speaker 1: hell out of each other, kick each other to the
Speaker 1: point where I'm sure both of them probably needed assistance
Speaker 1: to get out of bed this morning. But my God,
Speaker 1: wasn't fantastic and John Moxley beat him with a cradle
Speaker 1: reversing a triangle. They got in a big fight afterwards,
Speaker 1: because there are two dudes that are just prideful and
Speaker 1: violent and who should come out to head butt and
Speaker 1: slap sents into them. But William regal Bro I've said
Speaker 1: a million times I look at all these a W
Speaker 1: shows and they're they're extremely competently booked, as you can
Speaker 1: see by Tony Khan winning Best Book or two years
Speaker 1: straight now. And I was trying to figure out like
Speaker 1: where they're going and what they're doing and whatever. And
Speaker 1: I figured Moxi was winning this match because the story
Speaker 1: was he never beaten Brian Danielson, and Danielson said, I
Speaker 1: got to bleed with a guy before a team with him,
Speaker 1: so I knew there would be blood, and I knew
Speaker 1: there would be violence. So it's like every thing. I
Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen, but I did not.
Speaker 1: I did not think that they were going to continue
Speaker 1: fighting afterwards and William Regal Lord Regal would come out
Speaker 1: slap it headbuts sent to them, put them on the
Speaker 1: same page and they shake hands. It was like a
Speaker 1: thousand times better than I would have imagined. And I
Speaker 1: have a friend, by the way, if you love this match,
Speaker 1: I have a buddy who who texted me you know
Speaker 1: that this was like just the greatest match he ever
Speaker 1: saw in his life. And then this morning he texted
Speaker 1: me he said, I can't believe I'm saying this, but
Speaker 1: this might be the second best match I saw this weekend,
Speaker 1: and I said, that's impossible, and then he explained that
Speaker 1: the other match was is She and Shingo, And I thought,
Speaker 1: my god, he might be right. So I gotta watch
Speaker 1: that match. Holy smokes, if he thought that match was
Speaker 1: like maybe better than Moxy and Danielson, I just don't
Speaker 1: know if that's possible. But if there's a match, if
Speaker 1: there is a match that could be better than this one,
Speaker 1: I can believe that would be the match. And finally,
Speaker 1: Adam Page be Adam Cole in a excellent world title match.
Speaker 1: You know, the fans were tired. They were doing joke chance,
Speaker 1: let's go Adam. Adam sucks, but hey, at least it
Speaker 1: was heat. But then the longer this went, it stopped
Speaker 1: being joke chance and it turned into Hangman and Adam
Speaker 1: Cole Chance and man, they loved them some Adam Cole
Speaker 1: because when Hangman Page got revenge for being duct taped
Speaker 1: to the ropes and he tied Adam Cold into the
Speaker 1: ropes with his belt and started super kicking, the fans
Speaker 1: turned on the Hangman. I don't think they were expecting that,
Speaker 1: but he got the win, retained the title. Bro. This
Speaker 1: meant this show. I mean, it wasn't perfect, but my god,
Speaker 1: was it fantastic. Mike's gonna give his thoughts after the
Speaker 1: break everybody, because we have a break coming up. According
Speaker 1: to my calculations true, and we'll get into more afterwards.
Speaker 1: Back in a moment, its ever Live. What do you
Speaker 1: think of this show? Michael? It was the best e
Speaker 1: W show there's ever been. I dare say that. I
Speaker 1: know Full Gear and last Year's All Out, there have
Speaker 1: been some really good shows, but I thought top to
Speaker 1: bottom this was pretty amazing for a twelve match show.
Speaker 1: And I come from that old New Japan stead where
Speaker 1: a five hour show quarterly isn't gonna I feel links,
Speaker 1: not at all, not especially not with the variety that
Speaker 1: this show had. I understand. Look, I'll take six shows
Speaker 1: a year that are paired back a little bit. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to complain about that. I am an old man,
Speaker 1: but with them only running four shows a year at
Speaker 1: this level, I completely understand why they did what they did,
Speaker 1: and I thought they offered so much variety. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody could complain about it. I thought Layla Hirsh
Speaker 1: Chris stat Lander, it was good, it was solid, it
Speaker 1: was finishing off telling that little story that they've had
Speaker 1: between the two. I thought it was you know, in
Speaker 1: another era, they would have a super show start off
Speaker 1: like this with a ten minute draw. I'll take a
Speaker 1: nine minute and fifty second victory over Layla Hirsh And
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen with Lord Regal, but
Speaker 1: if you wanted to add a woman into the mix
Speaker 1: as far as giving her something that stands out, boy,
Speaker 1: I think lay La Hersha around a group like that
Speaker 1: would work out very nicely. The thing was of the
Speaker 1: twelve matches by far the twelve pest match on the show,
Speaker 1: hooking q T Marshall. You know that it was awesome
Speaker 1: for what it was. I would have actually, I thought
Speaker 1: they were going to end the pre show with that.
Speaker 1: I thought that would have been a perfect way to
Speaker 1: go off the air with everybody going nuts after him
Speaker 1: crushing QT. But then again, how they did it with
Speaker 1: the All Universe Varsity Club of Malachi Black, Brody King
Speaker 1: and Buddy Matthews. I mean, they're tremendous, they really are,
Speaker 1: and there's so many things you could do with them,
Speaker 1: And because it's not w w E, the odds of
Speaker 1: them sticking together as a group for a significant period
Speaker 1: of time is great and I would love to see
Speaker 1: what they decide to do with them. Eric Redbrard, look,
Speaker 1: if you want to give him a job it's not
Speaker 1: gonna hurt my feelings, not my money. Have no problem
Speaker 1: with him being on the roster whatsoever and in the mix,
Speaker 1: But if you don't want to, I do like the
Speaker 1: idea of bringing him in every once in a while.
Speaker 1: If it has something to do with the Dark Order,
Speaker 1: if it now has something to do with the the
Speaker 1: Death Triangle, if it's got something to do with that,
Speaker 1: bring him in, you know, as regular basis. They got
Speaker 1: a lot of people anyway. I don't know if he fits,
Speaker 1: but hey, I'm down for anything. Then you get to
Speaker 1: the main roster and it was just it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston and Chris Jericho. I don't know if Jericho,
Speaker 1: being a veteran, looked at this card and said, you
Speaker 1: know what, let's get out there early. Everybody else is
Speaker 1: gonna try to steal the show. We'd like to to.
Speaker 1: I want to open up this show with this crowd
Speaker 1: being as fresh as possible. And he goes out there
Speaker 1: and gets thrown in that half and half by Eddie Kingston,
Speaker 1: lands on his head. I mean, what a hell of
Speaker 1: a way to start the show. How he sold that
Speaker 1: and then it was off to the races. That was great.
Speaker 1: I thought the tag match was great. Is wordlow winning
Speaker 1: is what it was supposed to be with that ladder match,
Speaker 1: and I'm cool with the ladder match. I they have
Speaker 1: got to get rid of the brass ring. I think
Speaker 1: A or G c W need to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Everybody else that does a take off of the ring.
Speaker 1: There's got to be another way. There's got to be
Speaker 1: a different thing that you can put up there for
Speaker 1: them to grab. I think it looks so cheap, it
Speaker 1: looks so cheesy. It's like, you know, here's his owning moment,
Speaker 1: well the second crowning moment of the night for him
Speaker 1: ultimately at the end, and he's standing up there holding
Speaker 1: a big gold glaze donut. And I didn't like it whatsoever.
Speaker 1: J Cargils a superstar. That match was perfect to have
Speaker 1: on there, and A J was a perfect person with
Speaker 1: enough name value for JA to beat on the main show.
Speaker 1: You know, another short match. You know that people won't
Speaker 1: complain about whatsoever. Cargirls a star. She can only go
Speaker 1: up from here. CM Punk M JF was probably my
Speaker 1: match of the night. I thought it was absolutely outstanding.
Speaker 1: Britt Baker, as you mentioned with thunder Rosa that to
Speaker 1: me is building towards thunder Rosen winning that title somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Moxley and Danielson, if you want to call it the
Speaker 1: match of the night, I'm not going to complain about
Speaker 1: that either. Just a incredible showing between those two guys
Speaker 1: going all out doing what they wanted to do when
Speaker 1: they left w W E. I'm not saying it's the
Speaker 1: pinnacle for these two guys, because God knows where they
Speaker 1: can go from here, but I thought that was wonderful.
Speaker 1: And with Lord Regal coming out there at the end,
Speaker 1: the odds that you're gonna have a group with Moriarty
Speaker 1: and Utah and Garcia, you know that's looking like it
Speaker 1: could come more to pass. Sting. I remember watching Sting
Speaker 1: in six when I was ten years old. Last night,
Speaker 1: I woke up too early on Sunday, so I fell
Speaker 1: asleep during the pay per view. My old ass at
Speaker 1: forty six years old, just turned forty six years old. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: sixty three year old Sting as he's about to be
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, here he's doing dives through tables.
Speaker 1: It was just an absolutely unbelievable performance. The video package
Speaker 1: they had, and this is another thing when it comes
Speaker 1: to video packages in two less is more. The less
Speaker 1: you do them, the more they mean, especially when there
Speaker 1: is unique. Is what you had there with Darby Allen
Speaker 1: Sting and that stuff before the match. I thought that
Speaker 1: was incredible. One thing you didn't mention Swerve signing his
Speaker 1: contract coming out there. Will he be a baby face?
Speaker 1: Will he be a hell? I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: know for a fact he's a hell in defy. And
Speaker 1: that match with Nick Wayne is up for free. So
Speaker 1: if you're looking for something else to watch that took
Speaker 1: place last weekend that just went up, that's another thing
Speaker 1: you might want to watch because that was awesome. And
Speaker 1: then Hangman Page and Adam Cole. I was not a
Speaker 1: big fan of the build leading into the thing. All
Speaker 1: that goes out the window once the bell rings. Very
Speaker 1: good performance by Hangman Out and Page again. Adam Cole
Speaker 1: not dead by any means. Got to figure out what
Speaker 1: you want to do with him. And this whole realm
Speaker 1: going on that you have with the Elite and the
Speaker 1: Bullet Club and all these other factions and everything else
Speaker 1: going on. I think he needs now. It's time to
Speaker 1: rebuild him up nicely to get him back at a
Speaker 1: level that I don't think that he's at right now,
Speaker 1: even though he had a hell of a match with
Speaker 1: Hangman Out and Page. So that's enough out of me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was hell and a hell of a
Speaker 1: night for them, and I think ultimately up and down,
Speaker 1: they may have had quote unquote better matches maybe on
Speaker 1: other shows, especially with the shows that Kenny Omega was on,
Speaker 1: but I'd say from top to bottom, I think this
Speaker 1: was their best showing by far. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys are wherever this or not, but I am
Speaker 1: a feature writer for Sports Illustrated and I've got a
Speaker 1: new article coming out here today. He'll be able to
Speaker 1: find on my Twitter at Bran Alvarez. But I couldn't
Speaker 1: help a note in that article. Then on the weekend,
Speaker 1: the day w did this fantastic show, w w E
Speaker 1: also ran Madison Square Garden. Do you guys remember this story, Well,
Speaker 1: you know I remember this story. So what happened was
Speaker 1: w w E. You know Madison Square Garden. It's there,
Speaker 1: it's there, you know, their mecca, and they hadn't been
Speaker 1: drawn all that great, and so they wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure for this Madison Square Garden show that they did
Speaker 1: huge business, and so what did they do to build
Speaker 1: up this show? Everybody? While I went on television and
Speaker 1: they ACTU really promoted a house show. They actually talked
Speaker 1: about MSG this Saturday, and they said, you know what,
Speaker 1: everybody's expecting that Lesner versus Roman Reigns is going to
Speaker 1: be a Champion versus Champion title for title match at WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: the biggest match since Warrior and Hogan, but it might
Speaker 1: not be title for title because this Saturday, they said
Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden, brock Lessner might lose that championship
Speaker 1: belt to a mystery opponent. They built it up, and
Speaker 1: they built it up. It was literally they did. They
Speaker 1: did the worthy opponent, Paul Hayman said, a worthy opponent.
Speaker 1: Their most watched segments with Lessner and Reins, they kept
Speaker 1: talking about this match in this storyline, and if you
Speaker 1: if you heard about Madison Square Garden, well what happened
Speaker 1: was they had a Roman Reigns Championship defense, which was
Speaker 1: funny because they they actually announced it would be Roman
Speaker 1: Rains versus seth Rawlins and then they pulled the advertising,
Speaker 1: but it end up being Roman Rains Versus seth Rawlins.
Speaker 1: So I actually I don't know, Like there's two options here.
Speaker 1: One they're incompetent and they were they they changed their mind,
Speaker 1: but then we changed it back to the original. Or
Speaker 1: the other thing is, well, man, if we tell people
Speaker 1: seth Rawlins, like, you know, so let's not say who
Speaker 1: it is, and maybe people will think it's like someone
Speaker 1: else and nailed buy a ticket, you know, Cody, but
Speaker 1: with seth Rawlins and then the match was like three minutes.
Speaker 1: It was just like nothing happening match. So you know,
Speaker 1: we heard from people there that they were disappointed with that.
Speaker 1: And then it's time for the big main event that
Speaker 1: they've been building up on television. Who is going to
Speaker 1: come out the worthy opponent to challenge and perhaps beat
Speaker 1: brock Lesner to screw up all of the WrestleMania Champion verse.
Speaker 1: Austin theory. Austin theory was the big surprise, and you'll
Speaker 1: never guess what happened in the match. Ruck just brutalizing
Speaker 1: and killed the guy and beat him. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I was just thinking about this and
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so let's let's forget this show. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go back to the last time you did Madison
Speaker 1: Squadore and you didn't draw very well. Why was that
Speaker 1: a bunch of matches nobody wanted to see? Lack of stars,
Speaker 1: just you know, why why didn't you draw? Okay, so
Speaker 1: now you have an idea you're going to draw this time,
Speaker 1: which by the way, I don't have the I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find the exact numbers. But they didn't draw that
Speaker 1: well even with all the promotion. So this time you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna try to get people in that may
Speaker 1: not have wanted to go in the first place. You're
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, if you weren't thinking of going,
Speaker 1: well you should think about going, because we're gonna promote
Speaker 1: it on television and we're gonna have a special secret
Speaker 1: opponent for brock Listener that could screw up all of
Speaker 1: the on storyline plans for for WrestleMania. So you went
Speaker 1: to the trouble to do that, to try to sell tickets,
Speaker 1: to boost your image in Madison Square Garden, to get
Speaker 1: people that weren't thinking of going to go, and that
Speaker 1: was what you gave them. That was what you delivered
Speaker 1: Austin theory against brock Lesser in the main event. So
Speaker 1: the point of all of this is I watched that
Speaker 1: a W pay per view, and they they they promised
Speaker 1: me a lot of stuff, And was there one thing
Speaker 1: on that show where you got less than you expected?
Speaker 1: Was there one thing on that show where you got
Speaker 1: less than you expected? Because I watched that show, and
Speaker 1: one match after another, I got more than I expected.
Speaker 1: I got angles, I got surprise debuts, I got matches
Speaker 1: that were better than I expected going in. It was
Speaker 1: amazing to see the contrast between what w W E
Speaker 1: did for Madison Square Garden and what a W did
Speaker 1: for The Revolution Paper You Mike Thoughts after the breaks
Speaker 1: over alive back in the show Bright nowbre is here
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Speaker 1: So I just want to mention very quickly that the
Speaker 1: final number of tickets distributed for the MSG show was hundred.
Speaker 1: That's distributed, so the number of tickets they actually sold
Speaker 1: to wrestling fans was under eight hundred. So overall they
Speaker 1: were with all that promotion on television and all of
Speaker 1: the promises and angles on TV for the house show,
Speaker 1: they were up from December, and that extra that you know,
Speaker 1: paid their money. Yeah, see what happens next time they
Speaker 1: do MSG thoughs on this, Mike, Well, if I'm considering
Speaker 1: the record to MSG in the last time around, we
Speaker 1: were going back to the thirties to talk about some
Speaker 1: of the times that they have drawn less paid attendance,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling they're not going back to the
Speaker 1: Garden anytime soon. Now, when they go back to the Rock,
Speaker 1: or to Barclays or out to the Island, that might
Speaker 1: be a different story. But I I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would have a feeling for the next Garden. I would
Speaker 1: assume that therey will probably be six months from now,
Speaker 1: and they probably will have a much better plan going
Speaker 1: into it, or at least i'd like to hope. So.
Speaker 1: But remember how we were talking about that whole deal
Speaker 1: with the w w E schedule, and I said, I
Speaker 1: know somewhere I have one of those pay per view
Speaker 1: flyers that they used to send out back in the
Speaker 1: day to hype all of these events. Remember that, Well,
Speaker 1: guess what I found one, and it's from two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. Finally the Rock SummerSlam here from Comcast. Even
Speaker 1: it would be the things that they would send out
Speaker 1: WWFN Natic series that they would have on pay per
Speaker 1: view the best of WWF all month long. August, Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks and Cheap Pops, September, Divas and Hedonism. Boy Tris
Speaker 1: Stratis is nice energy anyway and somehow amazingly actually not
Speaker 1: somehow she's just has gotten better looking as she has
Speaker 1: gotten older. But then again doesn't matter right now. What
Speaker 1: matters is there was an actual schedule that they did
Speaker 1: have an entire calendar. Now, unfortunately, you know, you you'd
Speaker 1: have to go to the observer to actually make up,
Speaker 1: you'd have to go to the observer to actually get
Speaker 1: the cities that they were going to be in. But
Speaker 1: on this right here, as you see, starting with Unforgiven
Speaker 1: on September twenty second, two thousand and one, we will
Speaker 1: scroll up and we have a whole set of shows
Speaker 1: leading in to Summer Slam coming up August two thousand
Speaker 1: and two. So so that's from what two thousand one
Speaker 1: you're telling us about two thousand one. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: would have uh nick On's email because I want to
Speaker 1: make sure I sent him that poster. So whoever convinced
Speaker 1: him that they didn't announce shows in advance and that
Speaker 1: this was a revolutionary concept that would turn to business
Speaker 1: around somebody call this, I got a bridge out back
Speaker 1: made of gold if somebody will actually respond to that sale,
Speaker 1: but you only get the deed anyway. A couple of
Speaker 1: notes raw Tonight Edge will addresses attack on a j
Speaker 1: from last week. The Miss and Logan Paul will throw
Speaker 1: a homecoming celebration, Jerry Lawler will make a special guest appearance,
Speaker 1: and Alpha Academy will defend against r K bro and
Speaker 1: Seth Wallins and Kevin Owens, who are number one contenders,
Speaker 1: but only in three way matches. Okay, then we got
Speaker 1: WrestleMania lineup. So for those of you that haven't bought
Speaker 1: your tickets yet, but after that MSG show you're clamoring
Speaker 1: to get a wrestle Menia ticket, we got Night one Saturday,
Speaker 1: April two, Charlotte versus Rhonda Rousy, Becky Lynch versus Beyond
Speaker 1: Anka Ray and Dominic versus MS and Logan Paul and
Speaker 1: Drew mcintyrell face Happy Corbin Night too. We have Roman
Speaker 1: Reigns versus brock Lessner, Pat McAfee versus Austin Theory, and
Speaker 1: Sammy Zane versus Johnny Knoxville. For those of you that
Speaker 1: are all on the oh Dave was wrong. Vince McMahon
Speaker 1: was not gonna have well, the line up for WrestleMania
Speaker 1: internally listed Vince McMahon versus Pat McAfee. So if you're mad,
Speaker 1: like they'b be mad at Dave Mattet whoever was running
Speaker 1: that copy machine. But the point of this is, although
Speaker 1: at this point it is Austin theory versus Pat McAfee,
Speaker 1: there's weeks to go before WrestleMania. That way, that's the
Speaker 1: I would say, it's within the realm of possibility that
Speaker 1: it was not going to be Vince in the match,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be somebody representing Vince, whether that
Speaker 1: the Austin theory, whether they have say Steve Austin decides
Speaker 1: I'm out, or whatever it's gonna be. Maybe you need
Speaker 1: something for Kevin Owens, whatever the deal is going to be.
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't actually gonna be Vince wrestling, but obviously
Speaker 1: it's going to have something to do with Vince. It's
Speaker 1: just for Austin theory. And again we're not going to
Speaker 1: get into this topic because I tend to fall more
Speaker 1: on your side. But for everybody out there that says, well,
Speaker 1: tell me you know how you can't screw up braun
Speaker 1: Breaker or how you can screw up prawn Breaker. Here's
Speaker 1: how you do it. You said him with Vince backstage,
Speaker 1: where you have him go in these ridiculous promo sessions
Speaker 1: and have ridiculous interactions and have Vince tell braun Breaker
Speaker 1: that you know, if he does something wrong, he's going
Speaker 1: to tell his mother and go after his mother or
Speaker 1: whatever it was that he told Austin Theory. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing it with Theory right now. This
Speaker 1: is amazing. And I'm sure they're saying he's getting a
Speaker 1: rub by getting f fived in every which way by
Speaker 1: brock Lesner, but it's not. And we're not seeing this
Speaker 1: guy develop in the way that we know he can
Speaker 1: and how he should because we've seen him throughout his
Speaker 1: entire career up to this point. And it's like the
Speaker 1: only thing that's retarded the process so far is actually
Speaker 1: sitting next to Vince McMahon. But I watched n x
Speaker 1: T two pointo, and this guy has been a geek
Speaker 1: from day one. He was Johnny Gargano's son, his son,
Speaker 1: I know. But when they look and when they brought
Speaker 1: him up and they were gonna do look where he
Speaker 1: was gonna, I know, and when he was gonna be
Speaker 1: an acolyte of of uh seth rollins. Remember that short
Speaker 1: second that he was going to do that. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a terrible idea too. I just and you
Speaker 1: just see how they fumble over and over, and I
Speaker 1: just I don't get it. I just don't understand. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Steve Austin may Or may not be doing a match
Speaker 1: at WrestleMania, but he is at this point still gonna
Speaker 1: be there, and he's still gonna do something with Kevin Owens,
Speaker 1: so you know they they want him, man, And uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, everybody, here's the thing. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Owen's getting stunned. Okay, So if we want
Speaker 1: to be semantic about this, there's either gonna be like
Speaker 1: a segment that leads to a short brawl and Kevin
Speaker 1: Owens gets stunned, or we're gonna have a short match
Speaker 1: and Kevin Owens gets stunned. So like, if you're really
Speaker 1: gonna be all up in arms about it, well, well,
Speaker 1: you know, they brawled for three minutes and then it
Speaker 1: was a stunner, but they didn't ring the bell, so
Speaker 1: he didn't wrestle or they wrestle for three minutes, and
Speaker 1: he stunned wrote that you're gonna get one or the other. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do I'll tell you this for sure.
Speaker 1: They ain't going fifteen minutes. They ain't going seventeen minutes. Okay,
Speaker 1: if Steve Austin does a match, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: relatively short match. I'm not thinking it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: ten seconds, but it's gonna be on the shorter end,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna end with a stunner. Or there's going
Speaker 1: to be a segment that leads to a brawl and
Speaker 1: there's going to be a stunner. So you don't get
Speaker 1: one of the other. Oh how about this, you get
Speaker 1: a brawl and Kevin owens and saying, you know, have
Speaker 1: any guts actually faced me in a match. You're gonna
Speaker 1: show up and find you you've been scared to face me,
Speaker 1: You're scared to come back. And then Steve Aoston goes, well,
Speaker 1: hell kid, you know, hit the bell, and then he
Speaker 1: gives him a stunner and pins him, and then three
Speaker 1: second match pours the beard and nobody gives a crap
Speaker 1: because they saw Steve Boston and Kevin Owens and everybody's happy,
Speaker 1: you know, especially know who's really gonna be happy. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be Kevin Owens. So everybody would be a winner
Speaker 1: in that exchange no matter what they do, as long
Speaker 1: as Steve Auston shows up. And I know they have
Speaker 1: not promoted him, they haven't mentioned him. It's all in
Speaker 1: the fans for hyping this up. But the reality is,
Speaker 1: damn it, You're in Texas. How can you have a
Speaker 1: Texas WrestleMania without Stone called Steve Auston? And the way
Speaker 1: this is going with Kevin Owens, who else is it
Speaker 1: gonna be? It ain't gonna be Kevin von Eric Who's
Speaker 1: going to save Texas? All Right? Gary Hart dead and
Speaker 1: even if he was a lie, he would be making
Speaker 1: fun of Texas. There's no Dick Murdock, There's no Dusty Rhodes.
Speaker 1: Who is going to take up for Texas if not
Speaker 1: for Stone Cold Steve Auston. Alright. Notes from the press
Speaker 1: conference last night, Tony Khn does plan to continue a
Speaker 1: Ring of Honors wrestling operations after acquiring the company, and
Speaker 1: it says he will serve as the booker. So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what that means for Delirious. I mean, is
Speaker 1: this gonna be Tony con Is, Vince McMahon and Delirious
Speaker 1: is you know, Shaun Michaels or whoever, in the sense
Speaker 1: that you know, Tony will give him the overall picture
Speaker 1: and he does the day by day or is he
Speaker 1: not going to be employed? I don't know who's gonna
Speaker 1: ask about that. I mean, everybody has been released, right
Speaker 1: do we even know if Delirious is employed? He is
Speaker 1: employed because he was. He was in charge of doing
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that they were doing on
Speaker 1: television in the meantime, So yeah, he was. They just
Speaker 1: got rid of all of the well and look, and
Speaker 1: I know people are going, well, he can't do this
Speaker 1: sort of thing. I know there's a lot on his
Speaker 1: plate as it is. And it's like, you know, the
Speaker 1: more frankly looking at this one of a sports point
Speaker 1: of view, the more he can get out of football
Speaker 1: and and proper football, and the more you invest himself
Speaker 1: in wrestling, that might be the best thing for him
Speaker 1: and everybody else anyway. And if Ring of Honor is
Speaker 1: only going to run a couple of weekends or you know, there,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a slow motion process to get the
Speaker 1: thing jump started and kick started. You know who knows
Speaker 1: Again I I'm not super sour on that, although it's
Speaker 1: a lot on his plate. But if he again, we'll
Speaker 1: just have to see how things play out. It's so
Speaker 1: early right now, we have no idea what direction things
Speaker 1: are gonna go. Oh all right, hey, what else do
Speaker 1: we have here today? Rampage different times slot. Later this month, Friday,
Speaker 1: March eighteen, eleven, thirty pm Eastern, there'll be the four
Speaker 1: first run n C Double A men's basketball tournaments on
Speaker 1: TNT that day, first one starting at one twenty eastern,
Speaker 1: last one scheduled to tip off at nine at twenty eastern,
Speaker 1: And so they'll be out of their normal time slot,
Speaker 1: which last time they are their normal time slot, they
Speaker 1: actually a better than eighteen forty nine, but worse than
Speaker 1: viewers that game in those games tend to sometimes they'll
Speaker 1: go late, So just check your DVR and if you
Speaker 1: have an older DVR two that doesn't catch up or
Speaker 1: has got some sort of issue or something like that,
Speaker 1: make sure you extend out the time. MSG Gate six
Speaker 1: hundred thousand was a number, by the way, for all
Speaker 1: of that work. Six d dollars. Guys know that the
Speaker 1: douvil or Nothing shows, Broken Million show coming up in May.
Speaker 1: Tickets just went on sale a couple days ago. Where's
Speaker 1: that show at though it's in Las Vegas. Yeah, shows
Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden and tickets were ungodly high. Well
Speaker 1: they were doll gate they've the last time around. They
Speaker 1: were in that middle of running things way too much.
Speaker 1: And then because they just added shows on top of shows,
Speaker 1: and look, I they're full scophy with the Garden. It
Speaker 1: does not mean what it once did. And it kills
Speaker 1: me to say a little bit because you know, but look,
Speaker 1: it's like for boxing, it's just not the mecca for
Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. I still love the building, so I
Speaker 1: love seeing the Knicks and the Rangers in it, but
Speaker 1: for as far as wrestling goes, I mean, Barclays is
Speaker 1: really their spot. And again I have a feeling the
Speaker 1: next time to go back to the Garden, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to give people a reason to go, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to give people a reason for those ticket
Speaker 1: prices because otherwise there's a help a lot of the
Speaker 1: things you can do on a Saturday night, man on
Speaker 1: and we've got Vader going into the w w E
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame joins the Undertaker, as the other inductee
Speaker 1: already announced passed away in at the age of sixty three,
Speaker 1: one most Improved the Observer Awards and one of the
Speaker 1: great big men of all time and wrestling. So Vader
Speaker 1: is going into the Hall of Fame. Shame. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. Maybe there were some things I'm
Speaker 1: not privy too, but I know he was one of
Speaker 1: those guys where there were a lot of people, including himself,
Speaker 1: that really wanted to see him, get him when he
Speaker 1: was still alive, And unfortunately that's not the case now.
Speaker 1: And they go ahead and they make the move. So
Speaker 1: hopefully they get somebody who was familiar with him in
Speaker 1: his career to actually give him a proper good induction,
Speaker 1: touch on his stuff in Japan, touch on his time
Speaker 1: in the a w A, in Germany, all these other
Speaker 1: places where this guy was a true legendary international star,
Speaker 1: I mean not the highest order, he really really is.
Speaker 1: And Carry Silkin has been honors part of the promotion's
Speaker 1: inaugural Hall of Fame Class Carrie Silkin a special Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame edition of r O HTV that aired this
Speaker 1: weekend was presented with the first ever Ring of Honor
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Legacy Award. Award will be known as
Speaker 1: the Carry Silkin Legacy Award going forward, Back in the
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