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Speaker 1: What up you guys. It's your girl Seventh Street, and

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Speaker 1: I am here with my girl Colleen, and this is

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Speaker 1: eating while broke. So today I'm like cook y'all up

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Speaker 1: with a little a little hood classic that I ate

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Speaker 1: growing up. You know, when money get funny, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: can never go wrong with a classic Bologny egg and

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Speaker 1: cheese sandwich. But it gotta be fried to fried Bologni

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Speaker 1: egg and cheese. Said, Okay, don you fry the bologna. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna find some bologne, we too. Yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know if these guys we were just gonna cook the

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Speaker 1: egg and melt the cheese on it. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I've never actually had a bolognaian egg sandwich. Really. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: well listen, I'm gonna put you on on So I

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Speaker 1: I like to start with the bologney right because the

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Speaker 1: bologne is gonna take the longest to cook. You feel me,

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Speaker 1: so one piece for you want piece of me? I

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Speaker 1: won't be honest, though, I don't eat a lot of

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Speaker 1: I eat real clean now, but every now and then

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Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I just be craving the things

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Speaker 1: that I ain't growing up, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And don't get it twisted, because I will go home

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Speaker 1: to this day right now, and if it's four o'clock

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Speaker 1: in the morning and me and my family, my mom,

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Speaker 1: just have one of those urges we we might make

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Speaker 1: a little belonging. Friday was for real. Wow. So how

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Speaker 1: does someone from Haynes, Florida, Haines City, Haines City, Florida,

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Speaker 1: which I did look up. It was too small town,

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Speaker 1: very small town. How does someone go from a small

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Speaker 1: town to you know, writing on Chris Brown's records, Kelly Rowland,

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Speaker 1: Alicia Keye, Like how and you're banging out hits, but

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Speaker 1: how do you go from you know, the small town

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Speaker 1: everywhere growing up? I was saying at weddings, funerals by

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Speaker 1: Mrs Talent, shows, malls like anywhere that I could, and um,

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Speaker 1: let me into meeting Chris Brown, which led me into

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Speaker 1: writing for him, which you know, led him to me

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Speaker 1: being able to write for other artists because of what

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Speaker 1: was just a it's just a crazy it's a crazy journey,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't trade it for the world. Was he

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Speaker 1: the first person that you wrote for? He was my

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Speaker 1: first placement. My first placement was a song called Yet

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Speaker 1: three Times and um, yeah, it was my my baby.

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Speaker 1: good lesson for me because it was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: but write the hell out of his verse or you

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Speaker 1: know so, but you were now you were an artist, yes,

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Speaker 1: and then of course you're a songwriter. But how when

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Speaker 1: it came to Krish Brown, he saw so he sees you,

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Speaker 1: He's like, you're an amazing talent, come right for me?

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Speaker 1: Or was it like he saw that you wrote a

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Speaker 1: really good song. I literally we were working at the

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Speaker 1: it was about to go, right, can I come and

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Speaker 1: write with you guys? And honestly, I never had a

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Speaker 1: don't know. I just feel like that was God's saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. That's awesome that you didn't. Ye, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: It's frying, girl crying, it's frying and frying. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: So you went from girl group to us independent just

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been in girl groups pretty much all

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Speaker 1: And I didn't realize how therapeutic it was. Like songwriting

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Speaker 1: Can you explain kind of how that process works. First,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to smother me some some smothering me some

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Speaker 1: mayonnaise when its bread. Do you like mayonnaise? I love

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Speaker 1: may Okay, Mom, I got you. I'm glad you didn't

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Speaker 1: say miracle with I case. I'm not only like miracle WITHO.

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Speaker 1: And like potato salad, Okay, my grandma, my grandma Salaly

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Speaker 1: just I worked in that group until you know, for

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Speaker 1: And when I moved back to Florida, that's when I

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Speaker 1: started to UM. I started to dabble in writing a

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Speaker 1: I've just gotten uh, you know, just kind of diving

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Speaker 1: into writing a lot. I like a lot of pepper.

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Speaker 1: Two by the way, Okay, I like that. I'm trying it.

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Speaker 1: lot of pepper. So go back to the songwriting. I

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Speaker 1: I like to know what people are going through in

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Speaker 1: their lives before I write songs about them, You know

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Speaker 1: about you? You're loyal fans, by the way, because I

425
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Speaker 1: see them on your and staff and then all the comments.

426
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Speaker 1: But my fans, what don't they know about me? Um?

427
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: I really want to think about that. Yeah, I think

428
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: about it because it would be nice. It would be

429
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Speaker 1: nice to watch this episode and say, oh my gosh,

430
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Speaker 1: I did not know that about seven. I mean, you

431
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: don't have a crush on Chris at all. No. No,

432
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's something that they would be surprised And no, no,

433
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: like it was always just family. Whoever you worked with

434
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Speaker 1: that you got star struck. Alicia Keys star struggle. Let

435
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: me think, Alicia, Alicia's walked in here. I love Alicia.

436
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: I definitely got started when it was Alicia, we are.

437
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Speaker 1: The way our session started was on his zoom, like

438
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Speaker 1: on a on his zoom at the time. Yeah, and um,

439
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: even through a zoom, I was like nervous as ship,

440
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: like did you just make the disclaimer? Like look their

441
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys. No, I had to like put on a

442
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: good face like yeah, look now I'm good, Like, yeah,

443
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: what do you need for the record? You good? And

444
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: then when we hung up, then I lost my mind.

445
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: Then I lost it. But no, I love me some Alicia.

446
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Did you feel like the day leading up to those

447
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: moments where like, say, Alicia Keys, where you're excited Brandy,

448
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: did you feel like knowing that was coming up in

449
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Speaker 1: the middle of your day, in the beginning of your day,

450
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Speaker 1: did you feel like the time takes a lot slower? Um,

451
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: do I feel like it was the time was slower. Yeah.

452
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Speaker 1: You know, when you're hot, you're anticipating something, Yeah, and

453
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: you're like it's taking forever. You know, You're like, why

454
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Speaker 1: can't it be two o'clock? Um? Now I get lost

455
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: in music when I do it, and I don't even

456
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: have I don't even know what time is when I work.

457
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Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't. And I'll stay up for

458
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Speaker 1: days and just work and work and work. I'll work

459
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Speaker 1: each shower, work each showered, work, each shower. I think

460
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Speaker 1: there's something to be said when you do something that

461
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Speaker 1: you genuinely are passionate about. You know what happens if

462
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: someone hasn't found what they're passionate about. What advice would

463
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: you give them? Though? Um, For one, I'll say, I'll

464
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: just tell them what worked for me. I mean, I

465
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: have a really great relationship with God. I you know,

466
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Speaker 1: I'd wake up every morning, I've watched my sermons, I pray,

467
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: I meditate, I write all of my thoughts down. If

468
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm not writing them down, I'm recording them in my phone. Um,

469
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: listen to yourself. Let you keep a path with you,

470
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: or you just write. Um. Sometimes I keep a drawing

471
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Speaker 1: on with me sometimes I do. Um, sorry, I'm about

472
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Speaker 1: to take a bite. Take a bite sous that you eat? Chairs, chairs,

473
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Speaker 1: chairs to another successful episode of eating wall broom, m

474
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Speaker 1: just so good. That was so good, Daddy, Mama Jay,

475
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Speaker 1: I made Ardellico. Si. Okay, yes, come on, you know

476
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Speaker 1: what time it is? Yes? I really wanted to know

477
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Speaker 1: a time of something that your fans really don't know

478
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: about you. I mean, okay, do me this one? In

479
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: what area of my life? Personal? Personal? Okay? Love, family, girlfriends,

480
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: love love? We always love love songs? Right, I do love,

481
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Speaker 1: I do? I do? Um okay? Uh? Past? Present, future?

482
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Speaker 1: Which one is the juiciest? You let me know? You

483
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: gotta pick a box past present. I feel like past

484
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be juicier because future is always bright, right,

485
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's what we hope and present could possibly

486
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Speaker 1: be bright. I feel like past is always drama filled.

487
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with past. Past. Um okay, so past,

488
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Speaker 1: real relationships, past, past breakups, past loves of my life? Past?

489
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Uh past the best sex ever? Had? I think my

490
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: friends pas, who did I write, you know, writing certain

491
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: what were certain songs about in their songs that I wrote?

492
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Speaker 1: Can I get multiples, just to multiples and I'll let

493
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: you go. I promise you, all right, Okay, Um, we

494
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: want to know the best sex for all the guys. Okay, okay,

495
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Speaker 1: look guys behind the camera, like what and then what

496
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Speaker 1: was all the one? I'm sorry, I got so excited.

497
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Speaker 1: It's okay past Um we said, oh past songwriting like

498
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Speaker 1: writing songs? Yes, that one. Okay. Um, Well, if we're

499
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Speaker 1: talking about sex, and I love mixing sex sets and

500
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: food is actually a good limits a good some good

501
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: food and some good little sexy food and having a

502
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: good night and a good glass of wine and a

503
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Speaker 1: good even like set it up. That's where that's where

504
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: we really begin with like good sex, you know what

505
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean? Like you got wine and dine. It doesn't

506
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: have to have to be super fancy. It could be

507
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But um, some good food, some good wine,

508
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: some good music, and you know, pay attention to you know,

509
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: women were very sensual, pay attention to our bodies. We're

510
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: gonna tell you exactly what it is that we like.

511
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you what feels good. We're gonna at least,

512
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, we should. I think women should be more

513
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: vocal about that too, yeah, yeah, like all in the

514
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: facing owning and we don't do that's I think, And

515
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: I hate to be fully transparent, but I think that

516
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: really comes down to like how comfortable you are with yourself,

517
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: Like you gotta get with yourself first before gate with

518
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: someone else. I hate to say it, but it's true.

519
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: To be comfortable with you'll get to know yourself. You

520
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: know yourself, No, no one makes yourself tick, you know

521
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's a very important thing. Um, and

522
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: then be with some you know, when when sex is

523
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: with someone that you're really comfortable with, it's a really

524
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. It's a really really beautiful thing. And you know,

525
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: I have a record on my album call change my Mind,

526
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: and change my Mind speaks about being in such a

527
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: space with someone to wear. Um, you may try a

528
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: few things that you didn't think that you would want

529
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: to try before a life before and you know, so

530
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: all of it goes hand in hand. I like to

531
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: write about real life and um, you know, me and

532
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: my girlfriends have juicy conversations and a lot of my

533
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: like my brother type guy friends. You know, I write

534
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: with a lot of men, so these are like a

535
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: lot of our dialogue and like studio. And that's how

536
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: we how y'all think we write the sex records and

537
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: how we write it's these conversations that makes sense. Yeah,

538
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: we're human. It's human nature, all right. Now, love one. Um,

539
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear a name drop here. I don't know.

540
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: We were trying. We're trying to hear name drops on

541
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: both Okay, so go on new name drop. You know,

542
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of those things I just

543
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: I love to pull from. Um. You know, I'm a

544
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: very I'm a first of all with cancer, so I'm

545
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: very into with my emotions and very sensitive and um,

546
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: but I think that that's one of my superpowers. And

547
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: you know when I have records like say like it

548
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: won't Stop, or like before I do, or even on

549
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: on my new projects songs like you know Taboo. Taboo

550
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: was a beautiful record about um. You know, if you

551
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: you ever meet someone and things feel so great that

552
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, naturally we like to go is this too

553
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: good to be true? Right? That's a normal thing, because

554
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: let's be honest, meeting people that you actually vibe with

555
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: and you know, you can check off a few that

556
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: it's it's rare. But when you know you know it's

557
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: so taboo is a song about um not being afraid

558
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: of that you know, uh, you know too good to

559
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: be true thing. It's like, too good doesn't have to

560
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: be taboo. Why can I just want to be with you?

561
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: Why can you just want to be with me too?

562
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So um in terms of love,

563
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: I've definitely experienced that before, So that record is drawn

564
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: from that situation. I like that. I'll say this for

565
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: myself and then I'm gonna let you go because I

566
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: know you're on a very crazy schedule. Two things I

567
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: learned when it came to relationships. One, when you meet

568
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Speaker 1: someone and you guys have this like this, like why

569
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: are we just so in sync? And I went to counting.

570
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: What they had said was whatever feelings and emotions you

571
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Speaker 1: had from your childhood are being a like brought up

572
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: and that's why you feel that stronger connection. But sometimes

573
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: it's good and bad, you know, and you don't realize

574
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: it's bad. Told something you carry over that needs to

575
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: be left in your name. You don't need to carry

576
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: those on. And then some things you know they do.

577
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: But that's why it's important death conversations about it to

578
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: talk about it, and then for people who don't know

579
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: how to talk about it. That's why I take what

580
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I do so seriously because music really is a universal language.

581
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't care. You don't have to speak English, Spanish, French, whatever.

582
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: If you feel something and music can help you express it,

583
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is press play. Yeah, you know

584
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. Everybody's not good and expressing how they feel,

585
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: so you know music can be that tool. Yes. And

586
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: then the last thing I wanted to say was, and

587
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had this discussion with your girlfriends,

588
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: but when girls pick guys, we tend to lean towards

589
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: what's safe. Well, actually, I take that back. I feel

590
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: like when guys date, they date, when they make it

591
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: a girlfriend or wife, they make sure she's safe. When girls,

592
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: they we tend to like be drawn to the players

593
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: and the more riskier guys. I mean, we have a

594
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: balance definitely between hot and cold. But I definitely think

595
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: women take the most risks when it comes dating, dating

596
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: and serious relationships. I think that I don't I don't

597
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: think I won't say the most, but we do take

598
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: risks for sure, because you always hear um, you know,

599
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: we always hear that good girls like bad boys. We

600
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: get that. But also I think that it just sometimes

601
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: it's seemingly sometimes. Um, you know, let's say, men may

602
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: think that things are one way, but then you know,

603
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: things turn out to be a whole other way. Like

604
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: you can never judge a book by its cover. So

605
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: we tell my hobby that all the time. Girls, you

606
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, very ill, my brother that all

607
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, don't never get a twisted girls and

608
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: girls are very smart. Okay, yes they are. Um. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thank you so much for

610
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Speaker 1: coming out feeding me. I look forward to sharing this

611
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: recipe and the Eating Wall Broke book. You guys can

612
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: check out sevens recipe and eat what we eat while

613
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: you listen who our episode, Yes and thoughts. Yes, please

614
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: please go out check out the album. I know I'll

615
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: be listening to it on the way home. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: all right, have a good bunny, guys. Fine For more

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