WEBVTT - Monday Night Football + Jayden Daniels = Cheat Code? | The Booth Review Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on the Booth Preview of Monday Night Football, Logan,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington's got to stop by dynamic Connection tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and with the addition to t Higgins, that gets

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. How about Jadon Daniels though we might have

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<v Speaker 1>our own cheat code in.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington, man, I certainly hope so. And like with jayde

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<v Speaker 2>and Daniels and versus Cincinnati, defense is a really narrow

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<v Speaker 2>path to victory, but it's there.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully they can get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>We're saying there's a chance on the Booth Preview. It's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Welcome into this week's edition of the Booth Review.

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<v Speaker 1>Bram Einstein, Logan, Paulson. We're going to call this the

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<v Speaker 1>Booth Preview because we have not called Washington and Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>first primetime Monday Night game that Washington's had early in

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<v Speaker 1>a season in a long time, in the first Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night game that they've had in two years since they

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<v Speaker 1>had that memorable one in Philadelphia, the b Rob game

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<v Speaker 1>where they ran the ball down the Eagle's throat ended

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<v Speaker 1>a Philadelphia undefeated season. Psyched, Logan, you psyched to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the Booth tonight for the Monday Night against Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, really excited. I mean, I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a really fun game to watch. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the more it's so funny every time you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>do a preview, you know, whether it's for Command Center

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, like, there are some engaging storylines and some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thoughts experiments about like football at its core. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be fun to watch that be executed tonight

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<v Speaker 2>on a primetime stage.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go. Let's do a little booth review

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<v Speaker 1>of the other teams in the nfcas really quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>just on Dallas where the score looks better than at

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<v Speaker 1>least the first three and a half quarters were against

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. Their run defense was swallowed up by Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>They were getting blown out yesterday. Suddenly off of a

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<v Speaker 1>quick turn of events and a recovered on sidekick, they

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<v Speaker 1>made the score look better than it was. What, just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, is your take on Dallas right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I think Dallas has got to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of figure out like who they are defensively and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of figure how to stop some of this stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these run schemes that people are thrown at them,

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<v Speaker 2>and to me, it's not even like super technical at

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<v Speaker 2>least the stuff that I've seen. It's more just a

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<v Speaker 2>physicality mindset, and like how they've constructed the team.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we talked about a little bit last night.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got these kind of undersized defensive tackles and they

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<v Speaker 2>are used to playing in a certain type of game flow.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be ahead, so they can rush the pass,

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<v Speaker 2>they can run stunts, they can bring pass rushing pressers,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, when you're in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a close gamer year behind, that's really challenging to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with with the personnel you have on the field. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>like Mazie Smith for them, hasn't lived up to the

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<v Speaker 2>billing in terms of being that kind of big, disruptive,

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<v Speaker 2>run stopping defensive tackle. But I do think that's something

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<v Speaker 2>they definitely got to look at. They're young at the

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<v Speaker 2>linebacker position, they're kind of Lafou from Notre Dame is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a guy that I thought was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be very productive for them, but it is struggling to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of find his feet from an intellectual standpoint. So

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<v Speaker 2>they got some they got some growing to do on

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive side of the football. For sure, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you've got a defense like that, offensively, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to make sure you're you're you're more productive and

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<v Speaker 2>you're more consistent. And they just weren't that yesterday, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least Ax wasn't that yesterday. And obviously they came

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<v Speaker 2>on late in the game, which is important. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's the way that teams built is the offense

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<v Speaker 2>has to be excellent, and the offense wasn't excellent yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, how about the Eagles real quick who got

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<v Speaker 1>by had some interesting decision making, right, and then Saquon

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley saves them, I mean, makes a couple of humongous

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<v Speaker 1>runs and they're in a tight game and they get

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is a pretty good early season win

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that's a's a

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<v Speaker 2>nice win for that team. I think, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of adversity, and some of that was

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<v Speaker 2>done by themselves, you know, in terms of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going forward on fourth down in the red zone. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that shows a grit for that team and

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that they needed to do. You know, people

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<v Speaker 2>are calling for Sirianni's job out in Philadelphia and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that win like had to happen, and it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of came in in a little bit of an unconventional way.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's supposed to play from the running back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this position that's supposed to be devalued, and obviously they

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<v Speaker 2>went it made an investment there, which is fantastic for them, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Dallas Goddard with an explosive playoff of a

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<v Speaker 2>coverage bust and then you end up getting the w

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<v Speaker 2>late late late in the game. So showed a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of grit and you know, you're never supposed to root

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<v Speaker 2>for Philly, but I like seeing teams kind of persevere

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<v Speaker 2>through those moments, and it was great to see Philly

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<v Speaker 2>manage that and hopefully at least not versus the Commanders,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully, you know, that's something that they can that

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<v Speaker 2>organization can carry for a little bit because it is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those kind of character defining wins.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, so let me go back to Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment and get your thoughts on something, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it kind of applies to Cincinnati, who's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on them. They have an all

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<v Speaker 1>world quarterback, there's high expectations, there's an assumption that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really good playoff team and potentially more.

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<v Speaker 1>And in Dallas, who's got a lot of expectations and

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<v Speaker 1>a very good quarterback and all this stuff, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple things that I think are kind of characteristic

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<v Speaker 1>of both of these teams. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with Dallas and I'll transition over to our game tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas can't seem to run the and can't stop the

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<v Speaker 1>run right now. So if you can't do either one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things effectively, or you really can't do both,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you have some high expectation of

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<v Speaker 1>what your season is going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, right well, I mean now, I mean it definitely

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<v Speaker 2>seems like defenses, you know, like this is the era

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<v Speaker 2>of defenses catching up and they're playing softer coverage structures

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, one of the like kind of football

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<v Speaker 2>one on one day one installs in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>to get people out of two high shells to run

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<v Speaker 2>the football. And if you're not impacting the game effectively

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<v Speaker 2>running the football like you're going to get these You're

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<v Speaker 2>going to allow them to like play bracket over cd Land.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to allow them to play these two high

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<v Speaker 2>structures which are going to limit your explosive plays. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like if you look at explosive plays corollary

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of you know, top ten offenses the league,

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to find a way to drive explosive plays,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you can't get them out of these two

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<v Speaker 2>high shells, they're really going to limit what you can

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<v Speaker 2>do from a production standpoint offensively.

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<v Speaker 3>So I definitely think running the football.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's like kind of archaic in terms of philosophy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just think when you look at what defenses

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<v Speaker 2>are doing now, like it's something that you have to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you can't do it, you're putting everything on

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<v Speaker 2>Dak and like that's just not an effective way to

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<v Speaker 2>run an offense. Like even when you look at some

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<v Speaker 2>of the best offenses and some of the best quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at you know, Peyton Manning, you look at

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady, look at Drew Brees, like all those teams

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that made them excellent. And I think when

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<v Speaker 2>you look around the modern landscape of the NFL now,

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<v Speaker 2>like like Detroit, San Francisco, they can do both. They

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<v Speaker 2>can beat you throwing the football. They have explosive playmakers,

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<v Speaker 2>but when they have to put it in four wheel drive.

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<v Speaker 3>They can get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>And so right now, I think again, Dallas has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of youth on the offensive line. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what is their actual identity. I don't really have a

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<v Speaker 2>definitive answer for you at the moment, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>they definitely need to figure out a way to get

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<v Speaker 2>that done because they're going to need it at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in this season obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me transition over to the Washington game tonight

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati's zo in two. They've got tremendous amount of

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<v Speaker 1>expectations placed on them for a lot of good reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the same time, here's what their problem is.

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<v Speaker 1>Early in the season. They're giving up one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty yards per game on the ground. They're having a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time stopping people. Some of that is injury related,

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<v Speaker 1>which we can get into because they're missing people in

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<v Speaker 1>their interior defensive line. And they also don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>run game they've had in the past with Joe Mixon.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a run game that is struggling as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I see similarities here between these two issues. With

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<v Speaker 1>slow start doesn't mean watch he's going to go win tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I see the pathway, don't you. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do see the path I mean it is a

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<v Speaker 2>narrow pathway, but I do see it. I think when

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<v Speaker 2>you're a team like Cincinnati that is, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of known for your quarterback and your two wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 2>like people often lose sight of like kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>fundamentals of football. And so what I mean by that is,

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<v Speaker 2>like we just talked about it with Dallas, like your

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<v Speaker 2>ability to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>The run, your ability to run the football when you

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<v Speaker 3>have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, like if you're Cincinnati, like that seems foolish because

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<v Speaker 2>you know your best player, you want him touch the

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<v Speaker 2>football all the time, but you need to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>find ways to de leverage him, you know, to make

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<v Speaker 2>it easier for him to play good football, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the entirety of the football game. So I do

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<v Speaker 2>think there are a lot of similarities. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Joe Mixon being gone. To me, it's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a personnel thing, you know, when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the offensive tackles specifically that they brought in,

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<v Speaker 2>and they bring in Trent Brown, they bring in Orlando Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>who again are great pass protecting tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>They're big hulking guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're six eight, they're three thirty, they're three forty,

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<v Speaker 2>They're gigantic. I think in trends, Casey might be closer

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<v Speaker 2>to four hundred pounds. But when you bring in guys

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you use, you lose some of the lateral

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<v Speaker 2>mobility of the on the offensive line and you and

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<v Speaker 2>you make your run game less effective. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>seems counterintuitive, but like that, you know that right tackle

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<v Speaker 2>has to cut off a three technique on the backside

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<v Speaker 2>of an outside zone run, and if you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>that done, that three technique is going to make the tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>In the NFL n aut of ten times. So they've

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<v Speaker 2>made stylistic decisions in terms of roster construction. I think

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<v Speaker 2>inform inform why the run game has been semi inefficient.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, like you know, you about Joe Mixon. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying he was a world beader. He was an

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<v Speaker 2>efficient back, and I think they felt that they, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of played the moneyball game and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we can bring in you know, Moss and he can

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<v Speaker 2>be sent he can be just as efficient. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is true. But I also think you've seen, like we

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about in the Philly example, like how an

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<v Speaker 2>excellent runner can elevate an offensive line. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>saw that Week one in Houston with Joe Mixon and

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<v Speaker 2>how effectively he ran the football there. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've made some decisions in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>they've built the team. And again, it makes sense to

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<v Speaker 2>me because you want to protect Joe Burry, you want

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<v Speaker 2>him to be the focal point, so pass protecting offensive

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<v Speaker 2>linemen are going to be at a premium for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that informs why they're having such

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<v Speaker 2>a difficulty running the football and then defensively stopping the run.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've just been absolutely waylaid by injuries. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, guys that they brought in, they brought it

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft haven't played yet. The veterans they brought

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<v Speaker 2>it in are hurt hamstring, soft tissue injuries, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, scrounging the bottom of the barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>They brought in Guy Lawrence, a guy that was playing

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<v Speaker 2>when I was playing, to kind of fill in on

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive line. So they are in a tough spot there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, as much as you want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, defense is a mass game in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of stopping the run, and it is you need some

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<v Speaker 2>bodies in there that are capable of standing up and

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<v Speaker 2>stopping the run. So I think there's it's multi factorial

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<v Speaker 2>for them. I think offensively in terms of running the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>it's stylistic that they want that. And defensively, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're just they're they're so banged up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, so let's stay on their offense, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals offense. And if you're Washington, you're Joe at Junior

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn, don't you want them running the ball tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Like to your point of people are playing defense where

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<v Speaker 1>they're basically begging you to run the ball, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing passing numbers across the league go down, and people

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<v Speaker 1>like mel Kiper literally complaining about the passing numbers going

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<v Speaker 1>down because the way people are playing defense and describing

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<v Speaker 1>this as baseball, like we should outlaw the shift like

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, Like, isn't though, this isn't this what

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<v Speaker 1>you want? Don't you want Cincinnati running the ball tonight

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible if you're the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 3>One thousand percent. These remind me of games.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a couple of years ago, when you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there kind of was this movement to too high and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was playing you know, these too high structures, these

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<v Speaker 2>quarter structures versus Patrick Mahomes, and they were forcing Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Reid to call runs, and like I want I would

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<v Speaker 2>prefer that, I would prefer that they run the ball

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<v Speaker 2>forty times and throw the ball twenty because again, the

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<v Speaker 2>most effective weapons in their offense are Joe Burrow and

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<v Speaker 2>Chase and t.

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<v Speaker 3>Higgins and they're all going to play and then they've

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<v Speaker 3>got a great tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>In Gaseki in terms of catching the football. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want them running the ball. Force them to run the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like analytically, you know, like they're just in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of VPA, is just a less efficient play, Like

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we want to say, like you got

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<v Speaker 2>to run the ball to get the amount too high,

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<v Speaker 2>like run the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>As many times you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Because one of the things that happens is when you

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<v Speaker 2>watch team teams that are good at running the football,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have like a five yard run, a six yeard run,

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<v Speaker 2>a ten yard run. Then they'll have a neutral run,

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<v Speaker 2>a run of zero yards, and then that's where you

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<v Speaker 2>have to make your money defensively and capitalize because now

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<v Speaker 2>you've pinned them into a kind of more obvious passing down.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you get an incomplete pass? Then you got a

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<v Speaker 2>third and ten, and now we're cooking. So I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>baseball here, playing you know, playing the moneyball game and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a less efficient play, especially for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get them to do it as much as possible

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<v Speaker 2>so that we can capitalize when they hit on a

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<v Speaker 2>non official. And that's the other thing is, even though

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<v Speaker 2>like mathematically, like if we play light boxes, they just

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<v Speaker 2>have not run the football well at all this whole season,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Bangals. So not only is it a less

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<v Speaker 2>efficient play across the NFL, but it's especially less efficient

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<v Speaker 2>for the Cincinnati Bengals. So lean into those things. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to make a mistake. It kind of reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of the Shane Baddier playing defense on Kobe Bryant. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like he's he's the most he's the least efficient

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<v Speaker 2>off the dribble. So I just forced him off the

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<v Speaker 2>dribble as much as possible and kind of played into that,

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<v Speaker 2>and his shooting percentage was like twenty percent or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Like that's all you're doing just playing math,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kobe Bryant is going to score, Cincinnati's going to score,

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<v Speaker 2>But how do we limit the total number of points

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<v Speaker 2>they score? And I think it's like enticing them to

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<v Speaker 2>run the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that the pathway here and to

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<v Speaker 1>your point might be narrow. But Washington successfully running the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, possessing the ball, hopefully doing so against a

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<v Speaker 1>weaker you know, run defense, and this is their strength

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<v Speaker 1>obviously coming in at least of the first couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati forced to run the ball more, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>against their will, runs the clock shortens the game. Suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a close ballgame in the fourth quarter, and

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<v Speaker 1>then who knows what happens. There's a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>things that are going on with Cincinnati that I think

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<v Speaker 1>are really interesting. They have a new offensive coordinator this year,

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<v Speaker 1>their ex offensive coordinator's head coach Tennessee Now and last

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<v Speaker 1>week against Kansas City, they threw fourteen targets the tight ends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know T Higgins wasn't playing and he was injured,

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<v Speaker 1>but that seems off to me. That their best weapons

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<v Speaker 1>are on the outside, and yet the bulk of the

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<v Speaker 1>offense isn't going through it. So what do you make

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<v Speaker 1>of how Cincinnati's in general played offense through a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I think that's kind of how they're

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<v Speaker 2>constructed at the moment. Obviously, yoshievsh is the other guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of playing opposite Jamar Chase at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a good player. He's kind of got that

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<v Speaker 2>big prototypical like ex Bill, you know, sixty three, two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifteen pounds. He's from Princeton and a good player,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely not t Higgins at this point in his career. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>They've got Burton, the kid from Alabama who's the speedster,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hits some explosive plays.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you look at.

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<v Speaker 2>The experience of the receiving corps, I mean, I look

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<v Speaker 2>at the tight end position and I say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Koseki has been around for a long time and

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<v Speaker 2>he's basically a big slot at this point in his career,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like six six, he's like two thirty five, So again,

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<v Speaker 2>not like a big, hulking guy, and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes a lot of sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be able to create favorable matchups very

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<v Speaker 2>similar kind of actually to the Washington Commanders going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to create favorable matchups underneath, and he did

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<v Speaker 2>and they were able to capitalize on that. He's explosive.

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<v Speaker 2>He ran a four to four coming out of Penn State,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see that explosive speed.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say it was like the fifth or sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the game where they're trying to hit a

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<v Speaker 2>choice route to Jamar Chase. They bracket him, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow kind of works the progression. Extensive play hits

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<v Speaker 2>him across the middle of the field, he beats a

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<v Speaker 2>safety in one on one Mike Koseki does and is

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<v Speaker 2>able to run the sideline for a forty five yard game.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have Eric All I think is his name,

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<v Speaker 2>Eric All, the tight end from Iowa, who is like

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<v Speaker 2>super physical in the run game but can run. They

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<v Speaker 2>hit them on like a little scissors concept. So post

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<v Speaker 2>by number one, corner by number two off of play

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<v Speaker 2>action and he can get after it. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>look at the athletes they have there and the experience

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<v Speaker 2>that they have there, I say to myself like that

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<v Speaker 2>it makes a lot of sense because you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>draw good matchups now with t Higgins, back, I expect

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<v Speaker 2>that target share to distribute more of the way you'd

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<v Speaker 2>assume it would, right, you know, the two outsides, we

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<v Speaker 2>get more targets, But don't sleep on the guys they

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<v Speaker 2>have in the middle, especially at tight end. Like when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at their depth chart in terms of tight end,

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<v Speaker 2>they have five guys active on game day, five guys

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<v Speaker 2>because they all bring something a little bit different to

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<v Speaker 2>the party, and I think they honestly do. Envision Gaseki

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<v Speaker 2>is a true big slot, Like he's not playing in

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<v Speaker 2>line a lot. So to me, don't think of Gasek

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a tight end. He's more of a receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think when you kind of break it down

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you say, you know, treat Gaseki receiver. It's

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<v Speaker 2>only actually then seven targets for true tight ends, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a more reasonable number. So I think when you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of contextualize it that way, it makes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more sense and quite fine. Frankly, like last week, those

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<v Speaker 2>were the best players in the field were the tight

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<v Speaker 2>ends and Jamar Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it will be for this week of Higgins's back up,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tanner Hudson's injureds He's already been deemed out, so

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<v Speaker 1>they will be missing one of those tight ends this

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<v Speaker 1>week tonight. On Chase, I think the striking number with

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<v Speaker 1>him through a couple of games, and only they can

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<v Speaker 1>really answer this, because you know, he didn't practice in

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<v Speaker 1>camp because he was in a contract stalemate with the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's part of it, or maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>structurally what's going on around the league, or maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>just them. His yards per catch numbers way down from

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<v Speaker 1>where he's is as explosive a receiver as there is

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. He's getting under ten yards per catch,

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<v Speaker 1>So at least through a couple of weeks, teams that

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<v Speaker 1>have played them have limited the big play to him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is such an obvious key to tonight that he

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<v Speaker 1>cannot defeat them on the outside with over the top

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<v Speaker 1>explosive plays. So I don't know what you've seen so

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<v Speaker 1>far that people have limited Chase, but clearly that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be replicated coming into tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the problem is, I'm not sure it will be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be replicated because when you look at how

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<v Speaker 2>teams the Kansas City Chiefs and the New England Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>played Cincinnati, it was literally like the old school Julio

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<v Speaker 2>Jones megatron coverage where like devil be damned, like we

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<v Speaker 2>are rotating the safety over the top of the over

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<v Speaker 2>the top of Chase. We've got him in a bracket,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got him in some type of advice. And I've never

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure I have before at some point

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<v Speaker 2>in my career, but I don't remember both teams playing

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<v Speaker 2>that level of volume towards that coverage structure in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Like it was like almost every single staff

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<v Speaker 2>and definitely every third down, definitely every second and along

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<v Speaker 2>like you could almost set your watch by it. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think basically what the last two teams said

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<v Speaker 2>is like they don't have another receiver opposite him that

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<v Speaker 2>were really worried about. Obviously, Burton's very fast. Your CIVS

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<v Speaker 2>is a good kind of possession guy. I mentioned Mikeseki

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside, but like there's nobody that scares them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they were basically like, we're going to just

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<v Speaker 2>you are not going to hurt us. And so like

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<v Speaker 2>just crazy coverage structures, like they're playing man coverage. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no plug player, it's zeroed out across the board. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a true true double team over Chase, and that's just

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<v Speaker 2>you don't see that very often, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>just speaks to kind of the playmakers that Cincinnati has,

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<v Speaker 2>like we already had. But so I would say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we should replicate that same game plan, We should do

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, and I would encourage teams to do

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<v Speaker 2>that because if that's if that's the main weapon, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure take that away.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is to Higgins is coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>We already mentioned how good Mikeseki's in the slot, So

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<v Speaker 2>I think with T Higgins coming back, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>really limits your ability to do that unless you feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, that Benjamin Saint Jews can match up in

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<v Speaker 2>a one on one situation favorably with T Higgins. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know, after watching him versus Mike Williams, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>the play. Maybe it's like, hey, you know, Saint Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>go earn your money today, lock up with T Higgins.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll live with a couple explosive plays to that, but

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<v Speaker 2>we can't let you mar Chase beat us. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>the play that the Commanders go with today. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have atually hate that matchup, you know, like because

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<v Speaker 2>te Higgins isn't like super super quick again, he's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a contested catch ball guy. And I go back

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<v Speaker 2>to how Saint Geu's played against Mike Evans, and he

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<v Speaker 2>played that game about as well as he could have.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe you feel good about that and you can

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<v Speaker 2>go with the bracket. I just think it becomes way

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<v Speaker 2>more challenging to engage in that game plan when you

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<v Speaker 2>have two dynamic guys on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the other part of this, obviously is they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to get pressure on Joe Burrow. Last week

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<v Speaker 1>against Daniel Jones, I think it's safe to say that

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<v Speaker 1>not enough pressure was applied and he had a very

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<v Speaker 1>good game against them. With Burrow, it's different, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about it when we were calling the game

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>last week with Jones. With Jones, if you pressure him,

0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>there's no telling what he'll do. He'll become inaccurate, he

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<v Speaker 1>might turn the ball over, he slides into pressure like

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>he gets rattled, for lack of a better term, That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what happens here. Burrow will literally step up into

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. He will take the hits. He's got the

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<v Speaker 1>respect of all the coaches. He's very tough. You'll hear

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.240
<v Speaker 1>people like Dan Quinn talk about a Tapia's and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the injuries to show for it through his career

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<v Speaker 1>that he's willing to do it. So, as you think

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<v Speaker 1>about pressuring Burrow, how do you think about getting to

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<v Speaker 1>him in a way that could be effective to get

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<v Speaker 1>the outcomes that you're looking for tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think everyone says pressure, and I think that's important,

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's more it's more important to keep

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.880
<v Speaker 2>him unsettled and not fall into a rhythm defensively.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you look at some of the best

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<v Speaker 2>game plans against him, it's the ones where he asked

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<v Speaker 2>to hold the ball for a little bit. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>the coverage contour look like? Can you disguise what you're doing?

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Can you drop you know? Can we bring simulated pressures?

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Can we drop eight? Can we bring those like overload

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.920
<v Speaker 2>five man six man pressures when we have to and

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.280
<v Speaker 2>get home with him. So I don't think it's I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's about necessarily getting pressure. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>an oversimplification. I think it's more how do you make

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 2>him uncomfortable and how do you make him second guess

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.640
<v Speaker 2>what he's looking at? And I know that's that's easier,

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.680
<v Speaker 2>said than done right that he's one of the best

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.720
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks in football. He's you know, he's got that, you know,

0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow cool. He seems to be unphased that return

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<v Speaker 2>by what defenses present. But when you look at when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Kansas City, there were down in distances

0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.120
<v Speaker 2>where they did a good job of disguising what.

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<v Speaker 3>They were in.

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<v Speaker 2>He held the football and it didn't lead to a

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<v Speaker 2>sack necessarily, but it leads. It leads to incomplete passes,

0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and incomplete passes leads to lead to punts and those

0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.240
<v Speaker 2>are wins for the defense. So that's that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>would say. It's not so much pressure, it's just how

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 2>do you make him mentally and physically uncomfortable? And again,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a million ways to do it. I'm really excited

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:28.879
<v Speaker 2>to see what Joe Witt chooses to do. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, what do the disguises look like? What do

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<v Speaker 2>our what do our pre snap pressure looks look like?

0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Do we drop out of them? Are we bringing stuff

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 2>from those looks? Because again, if you much like the

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 2>quarterback with the offensive line, if you're able to present

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 2>different looks and different angles to the quarterback, you can

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.400
<v Speaker 2>create kind of sneaky pressures off four man rushes. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I would kind of keep an eye on today.

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And again, the pressure is important, but you can help

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 2>yourself out by making the quarterback a little bit confused

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and a little bit tentative, and hopefully Joe Junior comes

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:00.480
<v Speaker 2>with the game plan that does that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one other thing with him, and this is what's

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 1>different obviously about Jones and Burrow. And Burrows in MVP

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>caliber quarterback and so I think it's unfair to judge them,

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>but when you get pressure around the outside on him,

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 1>he typically will step into the pocket. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the real big talking points of this entire week is

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<v Speaker 1>John and Doran and the impact that they've had in

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<v Speaker 1>the games, or some belief outside that they haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>the impact that people have anticipated. Here's an opportunity, right

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.120
<v Speaker 1>if you know that, Like where he's going to go

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 1>when he gets the pressure around the edge is come

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<v Speaker 1>back into the teeth of your defense, or what you

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<v Speaker 1>hope is the teeth of your defense. Here's a night

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<v Speaker 1>where John and Deran can make impact plays if they win,

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<v Speaker 1>right or am I off?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I think you're hundred percent right. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think That's one thing good quarterbacks tend to. They should

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>step up into the pocket. You see kind of young,

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 2>inexperienced guys stepping back out of the pocket, and that's

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 2>becoming more and more common, kind of with Mahomes doing

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<v Speaker 2>it all the time. But you know, most traditional pocket passers,

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, you Drew Brees or Tom Tom Brady, your

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Mannings are going to step up into the pocket.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So Joe Burrow to me, is definitely in that mold.

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And obviously when you have a guy that does that

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>or has that skill set, you want to create internal pressure.

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know, like and I do think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a good week to do it. I do think the

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Bengals defensive or offensive interior is just okay. I think

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 2>they're very solid. I think they're a good group together.

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I think in terms of one on one pass bro

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>especially when you watch the New England game, you know White,

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I forget his first name, they're defensive tackle number ninety nine,

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 2>really put them in a blender in obvious passing situations

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and really stress that group out. So obviously he's coming

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<v Speaker 2>on strong as a young player in the NFL. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do think John and Deron have that ability. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's about identifying the moments when you can really and

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<v Speaker 2>hook unleash the beasts kind of so to speak, and

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<v Speaker 2>like really get after the quarterback. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>especially with a guy like Burrow who's not quite as mobile,

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you can be more aggressive with your rush plan. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's going to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was one thing you saw last week

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<v Speaker 2>with Daniel Jones, a little bit more conservative rush plan,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think the other thing is the New

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<v Speaker 2>York we talked about this on the last Booth review

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>we did, is they were very, very aware of the

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>pass rush and so there was a lot of max pro's,

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of heavy play action pass You're not going

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to get those same that same plan, or you shouldn't.

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think from Cincinnati because they haven't shown that

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>all year, they're going to be like, hey, we trust

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow to get us right, we trust our offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line to help them help them protect them, much like

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay. And I think if you look at the

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay game, obviously the six of the five or

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>six pressures that they had are well documented. They got

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to get home and finish those. But I think that

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 2>a performance like that in this game because of the

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 2>offensive philosophy is definitely on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, let's get to the other side of

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the ball. That's what the broad blood, which I thought

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>was really funny, was, here's, you know, Jayden daniels first

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Monday night game, and it's bright lights and all this stuff.

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>When Cliff Kingsbury was asked about it the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, I don't know, He's played in Death Valley

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>at Night a million times. I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be and he kind of surprised him and

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<v Speaker 1>through all of this, the whole cool calm collected. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been there before, he has acted the part, lived the part,

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.479
<v Speaker 1>and I honestly have no concerns about that. There are

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<v Speaker 1>other rookies that I would, but I don't here tonight.

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>He's done this kind of too many times. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you play Georgia and Death Valley on a Saturday night,

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>trust me, and I don't know that it does get

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger than that on a football stage, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm not worried about the lights being too bright,

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 2>because he's definitely showed that's on an issue. I'm worried

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>about Lou Anarroumo and his defense. Like, that's what I'm

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 2>worried about, because this defense is very unique in terms

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>of like the coverage structures they present, like the pressure

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 2>practices that they bring, the kind of the game plan philosophy,

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>and so what I mean by that is like they

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<v Speaker 2>run a lot of stuff, and they play hard, and

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 2>they're pretty good in the back end. There's no like

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>elite name back there necessarily, but they're very consistent and

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 2>they're on the same page, and so they.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Do a great job disguising coverage.

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>And so some of that stuff that we talked about

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 2>with Joe Burrow that the commanders have to do, this

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 2>ant room defense does it all the time. That's like

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>that's part of their DNA is we are gonna kind

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 2>of hold coverage shells, gonna we're gonna we're gonna get

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that you're not expecting. We're gonna play man match,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna play straight man, we're gonna play cover two,

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna play quarters, and we're good at all of them.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>And so the thing I'm worried about is like when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at what happened versus Todd Bowles and Tampa

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 2>Bay and I mentioned this to you last night, is

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 2>he was a little bit uncertain, he was a little

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>bit accelerated, and in this game, like I think the

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 2>same thing's gonna happen, like if from a coverage perspective,

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and again like Anromo does bring pressure. He brings a

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of first down pressure to stop the run, he

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>brings a lot of third down pressure. He wants to

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 2>be aggressive. But my big question for tonight is not

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 2>the environment. I think he's gonna be totally fine, it's

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 2>just what is Can he trust what he's seeing and

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>is he effective with that? Because if he's effective, we're

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna be fine. But if he's a little accelerated and uncomfortable,

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what issues start to happen. And you know, obviously

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>this Cincinnati defense picked off Patrick Mahomes twice in their game,

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 2>so you know, they do find ways to get turnovers,

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and a big reasons of it because they've got very

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 2>consistent players in the back end who embrace the defense.

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 2>They play hard, and it's a good scheme. So it's

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of like this trifecta of very challenging things for

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a young quarterback to navigate.

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was funny. I was talking to Dave Quinn

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the other day, and you know, he always talks about

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>year like how we bring it and you know where

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>ball is life and we're going to get the ball

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. If you watch Cincinnati, you see it,

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>like you literally see it. And he was talking about

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>how they've been in the system for a long time,

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>they trust this system for a long time. They go

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>after the ball, they're around the ball a lot. I

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>think to your point, they're speeding up some decision making.

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>They're also very aggressive trying to punch things out. So

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this team hadn't turned the ball over yet in two games.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a miracle if they don't turn

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it over tonight against what is an extremely aggressive defense.

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I couldn't I could have said any better myself,

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Like that's like, that's the main concern for me is

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>this offense has been crazy efficient in terms of protecting

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the football, and that always allows you to be in

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 2>the game because if your defense is able to sneak

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 2>one or two, you're able to gain two possessions like

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>in a game and you have and turn the football over,

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>that's excellent. But in this game, like that's going to

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>be the real challenge, like b Rob holding on the football,

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Austin Eckler with great ball security, and then Jayden Daniels

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 2>consistent like you I heard you.

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 3>You did a I was listening to a podcast you

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 3>did last night.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>You were talking about how effective Jade Daniels been about

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 2>not turning the football over. I think that becomes even

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>more important tonight, Like it becomes such an important thing.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 2>It's always important, but in a game where you might

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit outmatched offensively, like it becomes kind

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of the most important thing is offensive efficiency, staying on

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the field and protecting.

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>The football, Like I'm with you on Like in the

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>first game, it felt like the internal clock was really

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>sped up. But it was his it was his debut.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>He's taking on a defense with exotic blitz packages. They're

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>blitzing forty percent of the time, Like, no kidding. But

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>at no point in time we did have the sack fumble.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But at no point in time did he instinctually make

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>what I thought was a bad decision with the ball.

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>He didn't throw it in a bad spot. It was

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>never close to being intercepted. Did he vacate the pocket

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a little too soon, sure, you know, like we could

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>parse out and nitpick some of the things he did.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And in week two, similarly, a lot less blitz is

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>coming his way, maybe sped up a little bit at times,

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>but again, instinctually, he's not putting the ball in Harm's way.

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>He's not making poor decisions, and to that this is

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>where I'm very positive. And as Fred Smooth put it,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>if this is ground zero, what's next for him? Because

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he's playing the position really well, and obviously we're hoping

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, he's going to improve and prove and prove.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>But the part about his game that really impresses me

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to this point, go watch the other rookie quarterbacks that

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>are out there, or any young quarterback or the ones

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that's taking years like Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield to

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>find a spot where they're not turning the ball over regularly.

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>This is off to a really good start from that perspective.

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>You win or tie the turnover battle you're in every

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>game that you play, and he's not putting them to

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>this point in Harm's way. I do think that's going

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to be tested tonight. But it's the most impressive part

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of his game to me to this point.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, And again I think the thing about

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>this the game tonight that is so compelling is I

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>think this is going to be the biggest challenge for

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 2>him so far this year. You know, you mentioned the

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>prime time environment. We haven't even talked about Trey Hendricks yet.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>He was an absolute maniac. But the coverage in the

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>back end are you trust? And again I look at

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Cliff and I say, you've done. You did a great

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>job against the giants of kind of easing him into

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>that game plan, easing him into that game, excuse me,

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like with kind of easy RPOs, quick game you know

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>these kind of quick pre snap reads in terms of screen,

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>no screen, that type of stuff. So can you do

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>that tonight? And what is at Roumo's plan? Like he

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>has seen this, he understands the issues that Cliff Kingsbury's

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>offense is going to present.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Like what is his solution? Like does he play a

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>lot of man here?

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Does he kind of change his coverage philosophy to kind

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>of say, hey, like we want Jade Daniels to beat

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>us from the pocket.

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Like I really think there's a lot of really.

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Compelling things happening on that side of the football to

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>stop us. And again, how does Jade and Daniels, How

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>does Cliff Kingsbury does his offensive staff manage and handle

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>that while still being able to maintain some of the

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 2>some of the ball efficiency that you just talked about there.

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me get to Terry McLaurin. He was another

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>humongous topic, you know, this entire week. The number with

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>him is yards per catch is under five. Okay, So

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>they haven't found a way to unlock him. It's not

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that he's not part of the game plan. He's the

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.239
<v Speaker 1>most targeted receiver. They just haven't figured out a way

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to put him in a spot to be effective. The

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>two shots that they've taken in two games were in

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the Tampa game, neither ended up being complete, and one

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>was a near miss at the beginning of the second

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>half against the Buccaneers. So as you think about Terry

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and his role in this offense, what is Cliff Kingsbury

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about to try to find some space for him

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to work.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think you know, there were shots in

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 2>the Giants game. The Giants just covered it well, you know,

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>So I do think I think that number will definitely

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 2>level out here. You know, maybe levels out tonight and

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe as an explosive play, and we're not talking about

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 2>his you know, under five yards per catch average anymore.

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it just it's such a small sample size

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>this early in the season. I don't think we can

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>like make those conclusions because again, like if he hits

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>if he hits the ball the first incomplete ball versus

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay, we're not having this conversation. Then there's the

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>one that Jane misses. Then there's the two that the

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Giants cover like they're trying to get the football down

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the field.

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 3>But I do give Cliff a lot of credit.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>They have been very selective about those moments, and I

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>think that's really smart. I think you want to be

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>selective about when you take those chances because a the

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>young quarterback you want to feel very comfortable. But B

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>it's also the offensive line too, you know, kind of

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>insulating that group and keeping them protected. So I do

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 2>think that number will definitely change. Hopefully it changes tonight.

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully there's an explosive play. To Terry, we can stop

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>talking about this. But to me, I'm not worried about it.

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Just like when I watched the All twenty two I'm like, Oh,

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to get this done. For whatever reason, it

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't work out, so hopefully tonight's tonight and they're ready

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>to go.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 3>And they hit on a.

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Couple of those explosive plays to him, and this offense

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>looks amazing and we're coming out of here with a dub.

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>But and again, if Terry gets an explosive I think

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a huge part of our offensive success,

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>because we just talked about at the top, like, if

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you find explosive plays, usually you're finding ways to win

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the football game. So again, I'm not that worried about it,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see how it goes for the rest of

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the year. But I think we need more data points,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>we need more games, and I'm very confident Terry's going

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to find ways to impact this game, and I'm very

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 2>confident Cliff's going to find ways to include them in

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the game plan.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, So let me get to what is,

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, seemingly on its face, the path to victory

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>for them offensively, which is, here's a team that rushed

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>for over two hundred yards as a team a week ago,

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Brian Robinson at a career high. They're running the ball

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field. Cincinnati's given up one

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty yards per game to New England and

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. They're missing Sheldon Rankins. BJ Hill is probably

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>not going to play. They're calling up guys off the

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>street and off the practice squad. They had a draft

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>pick that got hurt in the middle of training camp.

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not available to them, so they're they're weak in

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>injury in the middle of the line. They're already not

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>defending the run very well. This is Washington's strength. Explain

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to me how this is not a heavy run offense

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>tonight for Washington.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it is. I think it's going to

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it has to be to a certain level.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think you got to look at how Cliff

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>did it and against the Giants, it wasn't like we're

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>not coming out, We're not running the ball, run, run, run, No,

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 2>it's hey, we got to spread them out. We've got

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 2>to earn the right to throw to run the football.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's one thing I really appreciated. Uh,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, watching watching that Giants game is it reminded

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>me a lot of Kyle in terms of approach, Like

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Kyle and Sean and Mike McDaniel and Matt Lafleura, like,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>they'll never find offensive coordinators more motivated to run the

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 2>football than those guys. But the thing about them is

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>they're very fastidious about not running into bad looks. And

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I think when you look at what made this group

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>so effective running the football is their ability to not

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>run in the bad look And they ran into favorable

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 2>box counts right a bunch of times. B Rob's big

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>explosive run I think it was in the third quarter,

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of on that double pool play. They're running into

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>a five man box and I can't tell you, I

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think I've ever seen I've ever seen a five

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>man box on first down ever with a tight end

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>or running back in the backfield.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Never. And so like Cliff earned that, he earned those looks.

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 3>He earned those explosive plays by being patient. So and

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 3>again it comes back to kind of a more you know,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>a more what's the word. I'm looking for, a more

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 3>fundamental principle of football, and that you need to make

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 3>sure you're getting first downs your stacking plays. I think

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 3>about how kind of herky jerky the offense felt against

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Tampa Bay because they weren't able to sustain these long drives.

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 3>They weren't able to get deep into the playbook. And

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I look at the Giants game and it's like the

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 3>total opposite of that. We're able to get to some

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 3>trick plays. We're able to get to the run looks

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 3>we want, We've earned those looks. We're able to be

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>efficient on second and long in third and tens, like

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 3>with Jayden Daniels running the football, like, there's other elements

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 3>of the offense that are required to make sure you

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 3>can run the football efficiency and efficiently. And one is

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 3>stacking plays, one is earning the right opportunities, and the

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 3>other is being really really good on third down.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 2>And so if you look at that game against the Giants,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>obviously this team is amazing on third down. And so

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the storyline I'm following. Averyone says, Oh, we

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>got to come out to run and run the ball

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 2>to win the game. It's more complicated than that. You

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>got to you got to get first downs, you got

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>to be efficient running the football, and if those things

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>all happen, then you're in a good spot. So that's

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>what I would say. It's like because Leu andor Room

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>is gonna have a plan. He's gonna have a plan

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>to stop the run. They know they're banged up, they

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 2>know that that's this team's strength, at least through two games.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>They're going to have a plan to stop it. What

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>is Cliff's plan to get them out of that plan

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 2>and let us do what we want to do. And

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 2>I think again that talk about compelling moments, like we'll

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 2>know within the first quarter who's being successful with that.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, we were talking a lot about this last night,

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, So they know that they have their injuries,

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they know this is Washington's strength. What do you expect

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to see early from the Bengals defense to try to

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>force Washington out of running the ball right up the

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>middle of the field.

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>So, for me, it's just math. It always comes down

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>to math. I mentioned the five man box against the Giants, right,

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 2>And I don't care how good you are, how wonder

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>man you are from a personnel standpoint. If I say

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.479
<v Speaker 2>everyone has a gap and then there's one free hitter

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 2>for the ball carrier, it's really hard to run the football.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to run the football at any level. Right,

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>If you just have more guys committed to it, then.

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 3>We have blockers.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Basically, the problem is, like again I just talked about this,

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the plan for Lou. I would assume

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>coming at the gate is just be plus one. That's

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is you have to earn the right

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>to run the ball by throwing these kind of little

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>dink and duck screens. Because like if you watch the Giants,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>they came out with a very similar approach. Early in

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that game, they had, you know, seven man box they

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>had six man boxes. But as the game went on

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and we kept throwing those little dink and dunk kind

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>of RPO screens out on the perimeter, they started playing

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>four over three. There was three receivers to the right,

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 2>there's four receivers, there's four defensive players over there. If

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you're doing that, then of course you can run the football.

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 2>And I look at how Jayden handled some of those

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 2>in terms of checking to runs when they needed to.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Like that's big time stuff. So to me, the game

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>plan out the gate is we're going to be We're

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna beat you with math. So how am I going

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>to do that? I gotta play man coverage on the outside.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>If I'm playing man coverage on the outside to take

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>away those screens and bubbles and all that kind of stuff,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to press up on you, and I'm

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Jayden Daniels like that gives me deep shots down the field,

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 2>which are lower percentage throws. So is he enticing me

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 2>to throw lower percentage throws lu and Roumo? Maybe? Also,

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 2>if he's playing man coverage, it makes Jaden a little

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>bit more effective as a scrambler. So there are drawbacks

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to some of these things we're talking about, But I

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 2>do think that I think if if I'm luing Rouma,

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming out with I'm playing the math game, or

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm finding ways to artificially increase my chances from a

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>math perspective with line stunts, you know, like for example,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>these Tampa two teams back in like the Indianapolis Cult heyday,

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>they'd stud four. They bring the linebackers straight down in

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>the B gap and basically what you've done is you've

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>taken the offensive line. You've made them double up on

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>guys they don't need to double up on, so you

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 2>have the free runner that way. So those are the

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>two ways I think he kind of comes out and

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>does it. But then what is the reaction of Cliff

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 2>and are we able to beat the weaknesses.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Of those new schemes that he's calling.

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am expecting some zone read tonight, and I'll

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you why. So obviously the run game and the

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>effectiveness of it, you know, based on the attrition that

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati comes in with and the deficiency that they've shown

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>here early, and this is the strength just reads like

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>this is something there to try to take advantage of.

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Trey Hendrickson with you in

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a minute, like personally, because he's off to an incredible

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>start to his season, dangerous, dangerous pass rusher, he's been

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>winning a ton But what he will do I don't

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>like when we were talking about earlier, Like if you

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>watch Burrow closely, what you'll see when the pressure around

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the edge comes is he will step up. So here's

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for maybe our defensive players to make a play.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>His tendency is to go to the outside, and we

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I think can win, right, I think we can win.

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>In the interior offensive line against the backups that are

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>coming in for Cincinnati. It screams zone read to me

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that there should be some opportunities with gaps between left tackle,

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>left guard, center, et cetera. Catch them, Jaden makes the

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>right call, pulls the ball down. There should be some

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>open gaps there, and that's why I expect zone read

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe not to be prominently displayed, but could have big

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>moments for Washington if they catch and they catch Hendrickson

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>doing what he typically does, which is his tendency to

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>go around the outside with a speed rush.

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's how he rushes.

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know, in terms of running, like how he

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 2>stops the run, he's usually pretty gaps sound. But again,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>like that's one way to handle a really good football

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>player is to read that player. And again, if you

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>can stay efficient, if you can stay in second and manageable,

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.760
<v Speaker 2>third and manageable like that play becomes way more effective.

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think you saw the effectiveness. I think they

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 2>ran it three times against the Giants, because again, it

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 2>makes those rushers less effective than those short down in distance.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But if you're in a third and ten, like, it

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. You can read that guy all day and

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to change anything. So I definitely think

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>zone reid is going to be a big part of

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the game plan. I think they got to be smarter

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 2>about winning, how they're implementing it, and so again something

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>for sure to keep an eye on. But yeah, they

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 2>definitely need to figure out a plan for our guy

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Hendrickson and make sure that he doesn't ruin this game

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 2>and get some more tackles benched because he hasn't he

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 2>gotten a couple of guys bench this year. Yeah, I think, yes,

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to understand.

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Last week the rookie, the rookie tackle from the Chiefs

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>got benched.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Didn't Sumatia Atlanta yep?

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>The week before He's had an impact game. What are

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>these new metrics I've seen called quick rushes getting to

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the backfield in a certain amount of time. He leads

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the NFL with that. So why don't we get nerdy

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>with Professor Paulson here, Because while I'd like to try

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to see if the Commanders can catch him and take

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>advantage of some of his speed tendencies the outside and

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>find a gap in between left tackle, left guard, et cetera,

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>however they formulate doing that. He's a real problem this year.

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>He's among the league leaders in sacks. Over the last

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>couple of years, he's had an extremely disruptive start. So

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're Kingsbury and company. How are you thinking about

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to limit Trey Hendrickson tonight?

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you just got to call a really

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 3>good game.

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And I know that's like duh, But so what I

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 2>would say is, like we talked about managing first and

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>second down efficiency, and one of the things that he does,

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Trey Hendrickson does a really good job of is understanding

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>when it is a passing down and kind of selling

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the farm on passing downs, which all good rushers do,

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like Von Miller is excellent at that.

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 3>TJ. Watt is excellent at that. And so how do.

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I limit his ability to assume it's a pass rushing

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 2>down is make sure I'm third manageable, right, third and two.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Because then you talked about then we can get into

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 2>some of our RPO stuff. We can get into some

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>of our z own read stuff and handle that quick game.

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Is another way to really mitigate that guy that kind

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 2>of rusher's effectiveness, because like they predicate themselves on getoffs,

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 2>So if I'm always getting the ball out quickly, he

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 2>can never get in a rhythm in terms of attacking

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the tackle and setting up multiple moves throughout the game.

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I think is actually, you know,

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the more you think about it is going to be

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 2>a huge part of this game is the screen game.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And I look at how Cliff called it and when

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>he called it against the Giants, and I thought it

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>was very masterful in terms.

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Of insulating the offensive line.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 2>Because the screen again, it's much like the quick game,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 2>it just limits his ability to be super aggressive to

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 2>the pass because he has to retrace and get back

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>in on the play. But it all kind of circles

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>around this principle. You cannot be and obvious passing downs

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot in this game.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 3>So what does your.

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 2>First and second down efficiency look like? And that is

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe the number one tell number one key to eliminating

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 2>a guy like that, Guys like that effectiveness. And I

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 2>think back to, you know, when Montes Sweat was here

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>and Chase was here, and how other teams would call

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a game. They would call a game to eliminate that

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 2>group from the field. And I think that's kind of

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>how you got to call a game here. And I

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>think when you look at what Cliff did last week

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>against New York, did a great job of doing the

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 2>things we just talked about. Quick game, RPO zone read

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 2>on that player to make sure that he can't impact

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the game, like you isolate him by him having to

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 2>make a decision right and Jaydeen Daniel's ability to keep

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 2>them in second and manageable third manageble by running the

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>football on scrambles and design runs. So that's what I

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>would look at is that's the way you kind of

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>keep him out of the game. Now the problem is,

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 2>let's say you have a bad we have a neutral

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 2>run on a first down, it's second and ten, and

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>then you have an Inglebley pass and a third and ten.

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You better believe he is coming with reckless abandon to

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>come get the quarterback. Now, what's the plan. Do we

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>send the slide to him? Do we always send the

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>slide to him? That can be a little bit easier

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>with an edge player, right, going to kind of work

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the three man slide to him so the guard can

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 2>help out if he needs to probably chip help. Do

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 2>you line a tight end over top of him so

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>he can't get the correct angle to rush and that

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>tight end could even be in a two point So

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>those are some tools to kind of keep an eye

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 2>on in those third down situations, third and long situations

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to kind of just make him a little bit uneasy,

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 2>and again you're never going to fully be able to

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 2>disrupt how effective he is. But those are some things,

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 2>some tools that I would probably look at. Draws or

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>another great example, quarterback scrambles are also super effective because

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 2>it forces them to be more disciplined. So there's a

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of tools at the disposal, it's just about the implementation.

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>And again that's one of the reasons I'm so excited

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 2>to watch this game is because every it seems like

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>at every position, there's a little chess match between the coordinator,

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>between the player, between the individual matchup, whatever it is,

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and I can't wait to see how it chicks out.

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Washington's had a lot of more than

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>more success than you would think with a rookie quarterback

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>on third and longs, but often it's been Jane's legs

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that have ended up getting the yardage that's been necessary.

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>And I think to your point, you know, obviously a

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of attention is going to go to if they're

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in third and long situations, so they're gonna have to

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>make decisions about that. Sam Hunter Sam Hubbard is a

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.720
<v Speaker 1>very good pass rusher on his own on the other side,

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm picturing the Cincinnati defense looking at Andrew

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Wiley and thinking that there might be an advantage here

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and bringing someone and forcing him to make a choice.

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm actually worried about the other side if they

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>get into these third and long situations. I think third

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and long tonight is a death sentence for this team. Honestly,

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't like in the first couple of

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>games they got by, I would describe it that they

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>got by and oftentimes it was Jaden making some decisions

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to pull it down. Take Off made some great plays

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>with his legs. This one feels a little to your point,

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I think this is the biggest challenge they faced from that,

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is going to be a tough

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>one tonight. They need to be in third and manageables

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>as much as possible this evening.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again that's like that's true of every team

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, but there are certain teams that are

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 2>better equipped to overcome it. And right now, even if

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>you look at the offensive line construction for the Commanders,

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>like those dudes are excellent in the run game, they're

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 2>excellent in the screen game. They're excellent draws, they're excellent,

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 2>like moving around straight drop back. You know, five step

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 2>drop not great, and there are very few teams that

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 2>are great at it. I think when you look at

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati and how they've constructed their offensive line, it's kind

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>of the reverse, right, they're good at these like long

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 2>drop back scenarios while they're bad on first and second down.

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of the decisions that they've made or

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 2>what they what they inherited from the previous regime. But again,

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 2>like Jade Daniels in this in this instance is the

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>ultimate trump card because as much as we want to

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 2>talk about how good Trey Hendris is going to hit

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Trey Hendrickson is, they have not played a quarterback like

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Jayde and Daniels in terms of his ability to run.

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And it really again, it affects your ability to be

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>confident with your rush. Like you know, I do some

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>consulting for three or four d ns around the league,

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and that is a thing that comes up every single

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 2>week when you're playing a Russian quarterback. It's like, how

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>do you stay aggressive with your rush but also maintain

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>rush integrity and keep the pocket nice and tight. And

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 2>so maybe they do that, maybe they're able to kind

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of say, hey, Trey. We're going to think more power rushers,

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>more bowl rushes, off the edges, compress the pocket, force

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>them to step up or force them to step back.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>That's something else to kind of keep an eye on

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 2>with Hendrickson is like, do you say, hey, Sam Hubbard,

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you are a bull rush guy, only right down the

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 2>screws of Wiley to compress the pocket down, force Jade

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Daniels to step back, and then Hubbard then Trey hundredsdon

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 2>takes a nice ha angle around. So there are some

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.280
<v Speaker 2>things that you'll see from a four man rush perspective

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:27.439
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna that they'll utilize to try to get Jade

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Daniels where they want to get them from a pocket standpoint.

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>But again, like I can't wait to see what those

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 2>look like. There are a couple things that I just

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that they could do, but we won't know until

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>tonight obviously.

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, last thing, I also believe a third and

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>long I think is a death sentence for them. I

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>think if they have if they're incapable of scoring when

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>they have their opportunities like they did a week ago

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>against the Giants, I think that's gonna be a problem too.

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So as you now have had like a week to

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>think about zero for six in the red zone a

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 1>week ago. What's just your general takeaway and how could

0:48:58.560 --> 0:48:59.399
<v Speaker 1>they execute better?

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<v Speaker 2>Starting to well, I think the first thing is like,

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 2>you cannot this offense isn't good enough to take negative plays,

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 2>like when you're watching Kansas City, you know, last night

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.439
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday Night football against Atlanta, they take negative plays

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>left and right, they take negative runs, they take penalties,

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and then they have this ultimate trump card back there

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and Patrick Mahomes is able to overcome. Most teams don't

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 2>have that. So the things we're talking about are just

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>like normal day one install stuff. Can you be efficient

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>on third down? Can you be efficient on first and

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 2>second down? And can you be efficient in the red zone.

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>It's situational football, and I know that's kind of basic,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 2>but for a team like this, for a team like

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the Commanders, these things become even more important because the

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 2>margin for error is so small. So for me, it's

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 2>just can we not take penalties? And this is where

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 2>the environment of Cincinnati I think becomes relevant, is because

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you had a whole bunch of false start penalties at home.

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be insanely loud here like, don't get

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.240
<v Speaker 2>it twisted. They're going to be turned up for tonight.

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 2>And can you manage the game? Can you manage those

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 2>pre snap processes and not draw penalties in the loudest

0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 2>moments of the game in the red zone, the when

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the home.

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Crowd is really juiced up.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, that's a major one because I don't

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 2>think I actually don't think that the play calls were bad.

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the play designs were bad.

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>It's just it comes down to not shooting yourself on

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the foot because most offenses, I don't care how good

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 2>you are, you cannot operate from first and twenty. It

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't work right. You just put yourself behind the

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 2>eight ball from the jump. So and no sacks. No,

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 2>you cannot take negative plays in the red zone. You

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 2>can't do it. It's just going to kill you. So

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>that's something that I would say, like did you get

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 2>that corrected? Does Jaden feel good because some of those

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>he's taken sacks on RPOs? Like the ball needs to

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>be out even if once you've pulled it you don't

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>like what it looks like, throw it away.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Like we just got to be a little bit more

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 2>efficient with that stuff. So no negative plays in the

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>red zone. I know that's like great football analysis, but like,

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>make sure the quarterback feels comfortable, make sure he knows

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he can get the ball out, and let's get some

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.959
<v Speaker 2>points on the board. Because the play designs were not bad,

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>it just came down to, for whatever reason, inside the fifteen,

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 2>inside the twenty, execution was not where it would be.

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. And this happened in the Tampa

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>game too. This team, and it's all new, they're not

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>equipped yet to make up for the mistakes that occur,

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>especially in a situation like that. And I think this

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 1>was underrated too, because I thought Jayden played very well

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and again is instinctually playing in general really well. And

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>he's not putting the ball in arms way it's really important.

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>He's clearly capable of these really electric plays, specifically with

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 1>his legs. He took two sacks in the red zone,

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.399
<v Speaker 1>now one of them, you know, and both in both

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.280
<v Speaker 1>cases there were throwaways there. Eat it, throw it away,

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>get to the next play, don't take a negative play.

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>In one of those cases, he checked into the Eckler

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 1>run that went third and fourteen to fourth and one.

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>They gave them a shot, right, they gave them a shot,

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:42.479
<v Speaker 1>and then they had the pen that was the first

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>of the three penalties that backed them up again, and

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>they chose to kick a field goal there. But like

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>it's him too, Like it's everybody. It's not just him.

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>He took two sacks on red zone in red zone

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>territory as well, So it's everybody, and they're still learning

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 1>as they go here.

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's something you know that you're I can't

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 2>tell you how many meetings I've said and where that's

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 2>been the discussion. We got to be more efficient in

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the red zone. We got to be more efficient in

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 2>two minutes, we got to be more efficient on third down.

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 2>It's I think the million dollar question is how you

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 2>do that. I feel like after watching the New York

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 2>game and after watching the Tampa Bay game, the path

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 2>for this team is very is relatively simple. It's let's

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 2>be better with our pre snap process season, let's not

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:20.320
<v Speaker 2>take sacks.

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 3>And so those are.

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Kind of easily I want to say, relatively easily corrected.

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously Jade Daniels is trying to make a

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 2>play on two of those sacks. But I think it's

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 2>about that's again where he's learning what he can and

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.879
<v Speaker 2>cannot get away with as a runner, and like when

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it's time to kind of you know, get you know,

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.320
<v Speaker 2>like take the loss and throw the ball away or whatever.

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>So that again, that'll come with time. But I think

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 2>the pre snap stuff like that, again, that's something that

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I think can be improved on just by making it

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 2>a point of emphasis. And hopefully it's better this week,

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully they score some touchdowns, which which I which

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited for maybe Jane daniels first touchdown of

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the season, So I really really excited for those things

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 2>in the red zone specifically, and really excited see how

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Jade Daniels just handles this Luin Romo Divas defense in general,

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:05.879
<v Speaker 2>and again like he's gonna have some special stuff dialed

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.359
<v Speaker 2>up throughout the game, but also specifically in the red zone.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 2>So really really interesting matchup from that standpoint.

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>This is really a great matchup in a big time

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>primetime spot, and I think like we're both on the

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>same page about this. There's a lot of unanswered questions

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is this is a heck of

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a matchup to find out a lot about where this

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>team is regardless of the outcome. I think this is

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a big time opportunity to find out kind of where

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>they are on both sides of the ball.

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, no, I totally think so too. And you know,

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 2>like we didn't talk about the Giants in our kind

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of preview of the division or review of the division,

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but they beat the Cleveland Browns and look pretty gosh

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>start and good doing it. So maybe maybe the Giants

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 2>are better than they think, and you know, maybe the

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys are worse than we think, and maybe Philly is

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 2>exactly what we thought. But the moral of the story

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 2>is it's open. And the thing about the NFL is

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 2>every single week, if the game plans right, if the

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 2>stars aligned correctly, you can win the game. And so

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.799
<v Speaker 2>I haven't felt that way in a long time about

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 2>this team. But I think with Jayden Daniels at the

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 2>quarterback spot and some of the new energy with the coaches,

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you're like, man like, maybe they can do it. If

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the plans right, if they put these guys in a

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>good spot and the guys execute it, it gets there.

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm encouraged and I think that's what And again,

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 2>like Cincinnati, I think is a roster but like this

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 2>team could be better coached potentially, and I will see tonight,

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's another thing I'm really excited to see.

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also we just we also have not had

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the cheat code quarterback in a very long time, and

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we're seeing the beginnings of that. Where we

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about these things where you go, can this team

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>overcome mistakes? And you're like, well, the Chiefs have that

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>guy back there doing that. Maybe we do too, And

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too far ahead of it,

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>but like at some point, maybe we do too, and

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll find out.

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and we'll find out tonight. But these are

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the types of games where you find out, right, does

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 2>he make a big play? You know, does he make

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 2>that big completion of Terry? Does he make the right

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>decision on his own read to the red zone and

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 2>walk in for a touchdown? Like these are the moments

0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 2>And I hate to put it all on the young guy,

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and I think credit to Dan and credit it to Cliff,

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 2>like they haven't put it all on him. But he's

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.839
<v Speaker 2>going to need to make some play tonight, and if

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.320
<v Speaker 2>he does, like that'll be really exciting obviously because it

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 2>will kind of to your point show that we're on

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 2>that path of finding the guy as opposed to, you know,

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 2>someone who's still growing and kind of figuring it out.

0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, Logan, I'm excited for tonight seeing the boot.

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too, looking forward to it.