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Speaker 1: usual suspect with me, mister Isaiah Standback, former Cowboys wide
Speaker 1: receiver and Super Bowl champ. And man, we've made a
Speaker 1: trade for one big play, first play, your first round pick.
Speaker 1: There's some guys that have gone now to this guy's
Speaker 1: but you know what, I feel like he's been itching
Speaker 1: his whole career to get down here and yeah for
Speaker 1: this show, for this show. Yeah, and he's finally with us. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got we got Nicholas even what's up? Man? And
Speaker 1: you're the first time we goes down a show together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is okay, good because I would hate for you
Speaker 1: to say, like, no, it's the sixth time, this is
Speaker 1: our first time. I thought We've had a lot of
Speaker 1: sports arguments. Yeah, first time I ever met this guy.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know him. It was like at a
Speaker 1: Christmas party. He was I heard your shoulder the day.
Speaker 1: I don't think you know what you're talking about respectfully,
Speaker 1: and I was like or something like that. I was like,
Speaker 1: respect that. Hey, you're used to it. I am. That's
Speaker 1: what I just tweeted out though I hit the transfer
Speaker 1: a portal for one day? Is that what it is? Like?
Speaker 1: I like kept it. You know what I should have said?
Speaker 1: I should I was named an alternate because that's kind
Speaker 1: of the theme of what's happening here this week. You
Speaker 1: are an alternate? Yeah, and I didn't pass like Dak.
Speaker 1: I took it so m Yeah. But my man, he's
Speaker 1: coming out with the five guns blaze. I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: I think from what I heard. I know we're supposed
Speaker 1: to talk about maybe Pro Bowl on the list, maybe not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a few things on the list. Just that
Speaker 1: Dak said that, like he you know, I guess he
Speaker 1: wants to rest or. That's what's been implied that he
Speaker 1: wants to rest I've covered the Pro Bowl a couple
Speaker 1: of times. It's not boot camp. I mean, like, it's
Speaker 1: not like it'd be Okay, I don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know what his body feels like
Speaker 1: or whatever. But man, I'm taking that that third Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance if it's offered to be, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's not. I said, what about you, what say
Speaker 1: you on turning down the Pro Bowl the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it. It's pretty just chill, It's super chill. Now,
Speaker 1: there's always a risk. I mean, that's the angle that
Speaker 1: he's taking. I totally understand that there's always a risk
Speaker 1: to injury even when you're in chill mode. Okay, there's
Speaker 1: a reason why cast don't go back and play pick
Speaker 1: up basketball after they'd done, after he get done playing sports.
Speaker 1: But you know, for the most part, two year, two year,
Speaker 1: and to your point, and I was able to go
Speaker 1: attend the Pro Bowl when when Terrell man a TiO
Speaker 1: made it my first year here in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: he took the whole receiver group and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: Makes perience, man, just team bonding, you know, being able to,
Speaker 1: you know, to celebrate those on your squad that had
Speaker 1: high achievements because everybody has a part in that um.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know the reasoning for him
Speaker 1: stepping away and not wanting to participate, but every man
Speaker 1: has the right to make their own decisions. Well, fellas,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask y'all how y'all feeling today, but
Speaker 1: everybody's fired up. Nick brought the energy. I mean, he
Speaker 1: came out blazing saying he's gonna transfer portal. But before
Speaker 1: I get in trouble with the powers that beat upstairs.
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Speaker 1: that Tostitos. Excuse me, all right, So guys, over the weekend,
Speaker 1: obviously we've had a lot going on with the AFC
Speaker 1: and NFC championship. However, at eight forty today an announcement
Speaker 1: was made and I want to get you guys as
Speaker 1: thoughts on one. Tom Brady walking away from football after
Speaker 1: twenty two seasons, which is unheard of, and Isaiah I'll
Speaker 1: start with you, because you played with the man. What
Speaker 1: were your what was your reaction? Proud of him? Proud
Speaker 1: of him? I mean he has set the mark that
Speaker 1: maybe unattainable by most, by most standards, I mean, this
Speaker 1: dude is a he's a professional man. I mean he's
Speaker 1: a great person. He's a great teammate. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: anybody work harder mentally at the game of football. I
Speaker 1: obviously when I was released here in two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine at their camp, the last last preseason game, my
Speaker 1: next stop. Two days later, I was sitting New England,
Speaker 1: sitting in the meeting room with Tom Brady right in
Speaker 1: the quarterback room. So it was myself, Brady, Brian Hoyer,
Speaker 1: and Billy O'Brien, and I was thrown into that, you know,
Speaker 1: and I had to learn what it meant at that level,
Speaker 1: right at his level, to be a professional. And deceed
Speaker 1: to watch his approach to the game, to watch his
Speaker 1: approach to fitness and training and practice and walkthroughs, and
Speaker 1: just to attendimness and his focus. It was amazing to
Speaker 1: be a part of it and experience it. So I'm
Speaker 1: super duper proud of him and his career and I
Speaker 1: hate that somebody leaked it, you know, last week that
Speaker 1: I can't believe that, But you know, that's not going
Speaker 1: to take away any portion of what he's been able
Speaker 1: to accomplish in his career. About I think he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's obviously the most accomplished player I think in NFL history.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if you can say arguably
Speaker 1: the best quarterback, you know. I mean, I've always been
Speaker 1: a guy that that thought for one game, you know,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, I take him, But I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how you can can argue that, really. Um, but
Speaker 1: we'll say this about Tom Brady and it's absolutely one
Speaker 1: thousand percent not a dig at him. I think what
Speaker 1: he did is he took the turn bus driver and
Speaker 1: threw it out the window. Because to me, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: has been a bus driver quarterback and that is not
Speaker 1: a bad thing. It was considered a bad thing at
Speaker 1: one time, but now it's like this is he's doing
Speaker 1: exactly what you've got to do, and there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with being a bus driver. Sometimes you got to go
Speaker 1: twenty through a school zone. Sometimes you gotta go ninety,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Sometimes you're driving with a bomb,
Speaker 1: and they're like speed you know the movie. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta drive this thing. Sometimes you take it off
Speaker 1: into the ditch. Do whatever you gotta do, but control
Speaker 1: it at all times, at all speeds. Take a four
Speaker 1: yard pass, take at sixty. He is I think the
Speaker 1: best at it all time. And he's never got greedy.
Speaker 1: You get greedy. He was like, whatever's here is there.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I do think Dak could
Speaker 1: could learn the best is don't be so greedy. You're in,
Speaker 1: you got a contract, You're gonna be the starter. Just
Speaker 1: take what's there and let's keep rolling. And so much
Speaker 1: of my comments, I know, heck might I get into
Speaker 1: it all the time. So much of my comments when
Speaker 1: it comes from a quarterback position, doesn't just come from
Speaker 1: my personal experience of playing a position, but also sitting
Speaker 1: in that meeting room with TB twelve for that year
Speaker 1: and really understanding the conceptually how to help a team
Speaker 1: win ball games. So so much of my comments come
Speaker 1: from this man right here in terms of taking what
Speaker 1: the defense gives you take the little dumb you know,
Speaker 1: and how many times does he throw out to his
Speaker 1: running back? You know, that's a death checkdown all the time.
Speaker 1: Why did he always make sure that he had a
Speaker 1: good scap back because that's it was valuable to him.
Speaker 1: He understood that they're gonna have to be coverage down
Speaker 1: the field. So to your point, Nick, I do I
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly agree that Dad can take a big chunk out
Speaker 1: of the tom Brady's book and not only just make
Speaker 1: his career at lasts a lot longer, but help this
Speaker 1: organization be in a position to win some Super Bowls. Like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold any punches on this one. Man.
Speaker 1: I for a good part of his career, I have
Speaker 1: not liked Tom Brady as a player, and he's had
Speaker 1: me in a submission hold his whole career. It's just
Speaker 1: being successful in beating you down. And my favorite Tom
Speaker 1: Brady moment has to be in the Super Bowl versus
Speaker 1: Atlanta when he's down twenty one three, he's down twenty
Speaker 1: eight three, and he's sitting there on the bench and
Speaker 1: they're panning right on him, and it's like the depth
Speaker 1: of a dynasty right in front of you. It's like
Speaker 1: it's finally over. He's just gonna walk off into the sunset.
Speaker 1: And that joker got up and he brought this team
Speaker 1: back and won a Super Bowl, And to me, that
Speaker 1: was that was my moment where I said, I kiss
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. It's his greatness. I'm watching something
Speaker 1: great and what he did last year, which is just
Speaker 1: he just echoed. He just went on even further with
Speaker 1: how great. That happens to me with a lot of athletes,
Speaker 1: like you're younger in their career, whether maybe they're on
Speaker 1: the team you don't like, but when they keep going
Speaker 1: and keep going and they get, you know, an older guy,
Speaker 1: and then there's a there's a young guy you know
Speaker 1: now that comes along that's kind of pushing them. That
Speaker 1: happened to me with Brett Farve. That happened to me
Speaker 1: with Kobe Bryant, you know, like the older that they
Speaker 1: get and you're like, I don't really know if I'm
Speaker 1: pulling for them and their team, but like you gotta
Speaker 1: respect what they've done for so long. Absolutely, I mean
Speaker 1: it happens, you know, and he's in that category for me,
Speaker 1: like how can you hate this guy? You can't? And
Speaker 1: speaking of man, that's a that's a good transition for
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship, talking about a young gun going up
Speaker 1: against a guy that has done it a few times
Speaker 1: so far. Now, what did you guys think that showdown
Speaker 1: between Mahomes and Burrow in the championship till the two halves.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Cowboys nation knows a lot about
Speaker 1: that through a couple of our games this year. But
Speaker 1: I think Mahomes the first half balled out. That first half,
Speaker 1: they took care of business. They were to Kanca City
Speaker 1: that everybody expected. The second half, I don't know what
Speaker 1: was going on. I mean, the coverage was good, they
Speaker 1: had he had all the time in the world pocket wise,
Speaker 1: and then he was just running around like on a
Speaker 1: Tasmanian double, making bad decisions and it was like, what
Speaker 1: the heck is going on? I honestly feel as if
Speaker 1: they got comfortable. I honestly feel like four straight trips
Speaker 1: to the a FC Championship game, yeah whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens versus a team that was super duper hungry,
Speaker 1: hasn't been there since Jesus was born, and they're like,
Speaker 1: we're not missing this opportunity. I think that was the
Speaker 1: difference in the game, and obviously you see the heads
Speaker 1: hanging low. You know they missed opportunity. And then tying
Speaker 1: us into a question of tying us into the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that first half when you watch Andy Reid not kick
Speaker 1: a field goal at the end of the first half,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was arrogance, yea, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's arrogance or if it's analytics or
Speaker 1: if they all go in together at this point, does
Speaker 1: it remind you of some of the struggles that we've had,
Speaker 1: you know, coaching wise, clock management wise. Did that kind
Speaker 1: of take you back deja vu? I think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big like guy, a big on clock
Speaker 1: management against McCarthy that much. And I have I said
Speaker 1: this I think last week and I'll explain it again
Speaker 1: later on. But but for that particular one, I just thought,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there should have been two plays and
Speaker 1: you know, he threw Mahomes messed it up. I mean,
Speaker 1: he threw it to a guy and he thought maybe
Speaker 1: he would he would break the tackle and didn't get in.
Speaker 1: But I mean that was that was where the game
Speaker 1: was lost. At the end of the first half, end
Speaker 1: of the game or in a regulation, they had the
Speaker 1: ball first and goal on the one first goal in
Speaker 1: the five they got three points out of it. That's
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I think if you score a
Speaker 1: touchdown there, especially a touchdown, was it twenty one to ten, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's twenty eight. And then I coming back from that, yeah.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing was even in the first half,
Speaker 1: I thought when they didn't kick the field goal, I said,
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose this game simply because that's your ball
Speaker 1: game right there. As you just mentioned, if you're if
Speaker 1: you just play a little bit of defense in the
Speaker 1: second half, they tie you up, you win the game
Speaker 1: on the field goal. You don't even need to And
Speaker 1: that's again the end of the first half and then
Speaker 1: the end of the second half with the miscues, and
Speaker 1: I just thought that that was really something to see
Speaker 1: those coaching mistakes and again tying it back into the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. But man, we gotta go over to the
Speaker 1: NFC because Isaiah Stanback has been la Rams from the
Speaker 1: beginning and just basically saying that this is a team
Speaker 1: of destiny. Was what were your impressions of the game
Speaker 1: versus to forty nine US, They showed out, I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody who needed to step up, all the acquisitions that
Speaker 1: they made to ensure that they had this opportunity showed
Speaker 1: up this That's what I was saying. They were not
Speaker 1: going to miss this opportunity. Von Miller, even though he
Speaker 1: didn't show up in the stat line, he affected the
Speaker 1: dog On game in a major way. Aaron Donald, you
Speaker 1: saw him and be soft spoken, right, He's a Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper of defensive linement, right, He's very soft spoken. He
Speaker 1: pulled that team together. It's like, hey, figured this crap out, right,
Speaker 1: and he went out there and led by example. He
Speaker 1: was dominant, causing all all kinds of issues, big games
Speaker 1: right there in the middle from you, he killed it
Speaker 1: as well. And then you go on to the back half, right,
Speaker 1: then you got Ramsey and then offensively Odell Beckham, even
Speaker 1: Audio Matthew Stafford making good decisions. All these guys took
Speaker 1: care of business right, and they took the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers out of their game. They took them out of
Speaker 1: their game. They were no longer able to play the
Speaker 1: bully ball that we've heard about this entire you know,
Speaker 1: a playoff run where you shocked by the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and the way that they came out, I mean,
Speaker 1: they had a lead and it seems like they just
Speaker 1: could not hold on to For a second there it
Speaker 1: looked as though like the game was over, but we
Speaker 1: were your impressions. I thought, those are two great teams
Speaker 1: that know each other well. I thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be a good game. It's kind of the flip
Speaker 1: of the game we saw in week eighteen when I
Speaker 1: was pulling for the wrong team, I was thinking that
Speaker 1: was that was good one. You know. Nah, in hindsight,
Speaker 1: I wish you that didn't happen, But um, you know,
Speaker 1: I said it best. I mean those guys that came in,
Speaker 1: I mean, they all did their thing, and I'll feel
Speaker 1: another one in because I don't think he was this year.
Speaker 1: It might have been the year before, but it kind
Speaker 1: of seemed like it started with that trend with Whitworth,
Speaker 1: the tackle who you know looks like Santa Claus. But
Speaker 1: were like, he's still balling, he's still playing, you know,
Speaker 1: and that guy is outstanding. And I just think I
Speaker 1: hope that the teams and the Cowboys to look at
Speaker 1: that and go, you know what, this win now approach?
Speaker 1: I mean not not go ahead, yeah you get because
Speaker 1: you're geting ahead of my man pulled back a little
Speaker 1: bit because that was my next question after watching what
Speaker 1: they did. After watching the championship weekend, how far or
Speaker 1: did you look at you were you looking at your
Speaker 1: television like we're nowhere close to that or we're right there. Uh.
Speaker 1: As far as being in those championship games, well, I
Speaker 1: can't say that because I've never been there. I've never
Speaker 1: been to a championship. I don't even know what that's like.
Speaker 1: But I think this team is close. They are close.
Speaker 1: They were close to the teams that beat them. They
Speaker 1: is not good enough to beat them, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that this team it's
Speaker 1: called mean that they were close to the Chiefs relatively
Speaker 1: with playing with you know, kind of shorthanded there. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna sit here and say like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is good. I mean, they were way better than
Speaker 1: the teams in their division and the teams that were mediocre,
Speaker 1: but they weren't ready to take that next level. And
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to do that with losing some
Speaker 1: of the players. They're gonna lose, but you know, coaches
Speaker 1: should be back. You know, you know the band I've
Speaker 1: been on here. It frustrates me, and I get it.
Speaker 1: As a general manager of an organization. You have to
Speaker 1: prepare your team for the future, right, you have to
Speaker 1: secure the future of the organization. But the future doesn't
Speaker 1: mean a dog on thing if you don't take care
Speaker 1: of them now. Sometimes now predicates, you know, has a
Speaker 1: has a big effect over what's gonna happen down the line.
Speaker 1: So if you're not balling out and winning ball games,
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, winning championships, and who really wants
Speaker 1: to come play for you? Yeah, so people come the
Speaker 1: people go to different organizations for two money championships. That's it.
Speaker 1: I don't give a dog on what anybody else says.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get paid or I'm going to win
Speaker 1: a championship, And sometimes I would give on the money
Speaker 1: to get a championship. We see that, and we saw
Speaker 1: that in Tampa, right, We've seen it over and over again.
Speaker 1: Guys want to go play with TV so well, Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys have had a number of opportunities to go and
Speaker 1: secure the bag in terms of getting a dominant player
Speaker 1: that could really push them over the edge, and they've
Speaker 1: pulled back numerous times, numerous times, not just once, not
Speaker 1: with the Honey Badger and everybody. I can go down
Speaker 1: the line of all these guys that could have had
Speaker 1: a big effect on this roster now, right, just as
Speaker 1: just throw the money out there, kick the can down
Speaker 1: the road with the other stuff like we always like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys always do and secure the bag. They didn't
Speaker 1: do so, right, So they even with that, even with
Speaker 1: that statement, they still had a stacked roster. They still
Speaker 1: had one of the most talented rosters in the league
Speaker 1: top three. I would have to say next to KC
Speaker 1: in LA, I would I would stand behind that all
Speaker 1: day long. But play calling, players, not making plays, all
Speaker 1: those things came out to the same result that they've
Speaker 1: had in the past. Has to change. Do you put
Speaker 1: a trigger on something major going for it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: But to next point, you got to make sure that
Speaker 1: you have the foundational pieces in place going into next year. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to do what the Rams did. I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to know to not pick I mean before
Speaker 1: the next Olympics here, I mean like that they're not
Speaker 1: they don't like three years the fourth round man um.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like I've always thought this, you're
Speaker 1: in the third round, you're in the fourth round. Teams
Speaker 1: want picks, and you you look at a guy I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna throw a name out there, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you find a player in his last year,
Speaker 1: second to last year in his contract, they'll trade them,
Speaker 1: They'll dump them, you know, Like that's what I would do.
Speaker 1: I would try to get a player like that instead
Speaker 1: of I mean, so, okay, so I don't get another
Speaker 1: O DIGGI Zoo or Chauncy Golston or whatever, Jabril Cox
Speaker 1: third or fourth round, but I get a guy that's
Speaker 1: now the money's a little different, but if you can
Speaker 1: handle it on your on your salary cap. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what the Rams did. And they didn't just trade
Speaker 1: first round picks. I mean they figured out ways to
Speaker 1: get these guys. But speak historically from the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and they've made those kinds of trades before, with a
Speaker 1: Joey Galloway or trading for Roy Williams, or trading up
Speaker 1: to get Roy Williams, are even trading for Maury Cooper.
Speaker 1: Those haven't necessarily paid dividends for them. So do you
Speaker 1: think they're gunshot to do that now or do you
Speaker 1: think that's just they just hadn't found the right combination
Speaker 1: or guy that's going to fit their system. I think
Speaker 1: all three of those are a little different. I really do.
Speaker 1: And I say that Joey got hurt, and then the
Speaker 1: quarterback got hurt, and then that was and then he
Speaker 1: was catching passes from Quincy and Anthony Wright and all
Speaker 1: the stirner but Roy, you know, And I think that's
Speaker 1: a good example. You were here when Roy got traded, right, See,
Speaker 1: that was interesting because I don't think he did anything
Speaker 1: that first year. It took him a little bit. I
Speaker 1: gotta give the Rams credit not just bringing the guys in,
Speaker 1: but their coaching staff of figuring out ways to get
Speaker 1: them to play at that level. Because Roy Williams when
Speaker 1: he got here was not ready to be the star
Speaker 1: that's of the first round pick. I think he needed
Speaker 1: an off season and all that. And that's what's kind
Speaker 1: of tough with receivers Von Miller. I mean, go go
Speaker 1: rest the passer. I mean, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: there is for him to see a part of them.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is it's a different psychology. The Rams
Speaker 1: don't give a dog on about years down the road,
Speaker 1: because that's that's it's down the road. Obviously, it's down
Speaker 1: the road. Right, What what what can I control? I
Speaker 1: can control today and hopefully tomorrow. Right, that's all I
Speaker 1: have control over. But I'm gonna take care of today.
Speaker 1: So we remember when they brought in Odell Beckham, who
Speaker 1: who were their receivers? Cupping Woods, right, yeah, Cups Woods,
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson Right, then Woods got hurt, right, So they
Speaker 1: had Van Jefferson Cup and then they had and they
Speaker 1: had Odell. But they were intending on having a four
Speaker 1: hitded monster a receiver plus Higbee right there. They didn't
Speaker 1: give a dog on right, Acres Sony Michelle in the backfield, right,
Speaker 1: they've been they've been building this for a minute now.
Speaker 1: So they wanted an offense that was impossible to stop,
Speaker 1: and they secured that impossible to stop. I don't care
Speaker 1: if you can't stop our receivers. You can't stop our
Speaker 1: tight ends, you can't stop our running backs, you can't
Speaker 1: stop our back at all levels. We're gonna dominate you offensively. Cool. Now,
Speaker 1: let's move to the defense side of the ball. How
Speaker 1: can we ensure that we always have guys that can
Speaker 1: take care of business? Okay, okay, let's go and get Ramsey.
Speaker 1: All right, Ramsey the best shutdown corner in the league, right,
Speaker 1: one of the few if one of one or two
Speaker 1: shutdown corners in the whole league, legitimately right, Let's grab
Speaker 1: Ramsey Okay, okay, cool, we got Ramsey, we have the secondary.
Speaker 1: Okay cool, Let's go out there and grab oh grab
Speaker 1: who can go good with Aaron Donald? Oh Va Miller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's make it happen. I don't care how has happen.
Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. Let's get this, get this, get
Speaker 1: this on the books so they they've single. Hanley went
Speaker 1: out there and said, these are are guys, these are
Speaker 1: the guys are gonna push us over the edge. We
Speaker 1: don't want guys who are gonna give us a chance.
Speaker 1: We want guys that are gonna make us dominant. And
Speaker 1: when these guys were all playing their best, they're all hungry,
Speaker 1: they all want to ring, and they're all willing to
Speaker 1: go out there and do whatever it takes at their position.
Speaker 1: Put them in position to be successful, much like dan
Speaker 1: Quinn did this year. Put guys in position to be successful.
Speaker 1: But these are all hungry, dominant players in the league.
Speaker 1: Not guys that are question marks, not guys that may
Speaker 1: give you an edge. No, these guys are effective, and
Speaker 1: I wish that Dallas would do. Now they still had
Speaker 1: a chance. I'm saying that Dallas still was more than
Speaker 1: in position to take care of business this year, and
Speaker 1: they just did it with the roster that they had.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and Women Clay, those guys amazing freaking job
Speaker 1: stacking this roster up. Unfortunate in the league. We know
Speaker 1: it's hard to double double down on that, right uns
Speaker 1: Kansas City has done it, Tampa Bay has done it.
Speaker 1: But it's very difficult to retain guys now they have
Speaker 1: their pieces in and I'm sure we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: The guys are that are they be able to retain
Speaker 1: coaching wise, But it makes it very difficult going forward
Speaker 1: now because now not only are you looking at oh, well,
Speaker 1: we could have got these pieces that really would have
Speaker 1: pushed us over the edge. Now they're back to the
Speaker 1: conversation of all right, now we need to foundation of
Speaker 1: guys who's gonna be on our depth. Now they can't
Speaker 1: even talk about the big time players. Now, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: going to have us in a position. I'm glad you're
Speaker 1: not the general manager. We wouldn't be picking until twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. It wouldn't be the Rams though. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the Rams wouldn't be talking about the nineties. I mean,
Speaker 1: like if they lose, If the Rams lose to the Bengals,
Speaker 1: was it worth it? Yes, if you had a chance,
Speaker 1: and you're saying, yeah, that's it's worth it. I think
Speaker 1: so to be in the Super Bowl, Yeah, that's all
Speaker 1: you can That's what you played for. That's what you
Speaker 1: played for. I mean, it'll go down, the game will
Speaker 1: be close in the fourth quarter. You're not gonna blow
Speaker 1: out the Bengals. I mean, they're not gonna go down.
Speaker 1: I mean, so they'll they'll fight back and and I
Speaker 1: think it'll be close. And yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: see it being a failure. Now, if they didn't make
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, yeah that's a failure. Then they fell
Speaker 1: short of their goal. But yeah, to get there, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna struggle. I mean, the Rams are going
Speaker 1: to struggle after this. Their quarterbacks older and all those
Speaker 1: pieces that can't keep them on and then they don't
Speaker 1: have the draft picks. They will struggle. They will struggle,
Speaker 1: But it's worth it. If you go and win and win,
Speaker 1: you play for one reason. Man. People are in Cowboys
Speaker 1: Nation or holding onto what what's the last championship that
Speaker 1: was here ninety five. That's what we're holding onto. Their
Speaker 1: holding onto that. That's the hold on that, right, that's
Speaker 1: the whole. They literally all grasping that thing. Like you
Speaker 1: remember back in ninety five, Well, we was killing them.
Speaker 1: That's what they're holding on too. Now. The last opportunity
Speaker 1: that they've had was back then. That's the last shot
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have had at a super I'm talking
Speaker 1: about being in the game. By right, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: keep any any fans. I mean you talked about holding on.
Speaker 1: There's people that are listening right now that weren't alive.
Speaker 1: They want to they want to be a Cowboy fan.
Speaker 1: God bless them because I mean, like you know, they
Speaker 1: what do they have to cheer for? I mean, what
Speaker 1: have they had? What has been their their moment? And
Speaker 1: so you know it's tough. I mean, yeah, you're saying
Speaker 1: older fans are holding onto it, younger fans are looking
Speaker 1: for the grass, don't have it, So agree, Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna look for something to hold on to. In the
Speaker 1: second segment, because Kyle Jovian's is gonna be calling in
Speaker 1: from Mobile, Alabama from the Senior Bowl We're gonna find
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Speaker 1: That's all I got as WrestleMania. I didn't get anything.
Speaker 1: Try and go to that too. Well, when you get
Speaker 1: when you know the person personally that hands these autum you,
Speaker 1: you kind of geta yeah, yeah, if you were a
Speaker 1: w w W E superstar, who would what would your
Speaker 1: name be? Oh? God, manhead? Oh my, what the damn it? Incredible? Incredible,
Speaker 1: Chris help us out, heck Hogan. But my head's been
Speaker 1: the size it's like five, you know, I mean the
Speaker 1: hit lieutenant from Liver Color. Who Those that don't know
Speaker 1: who that is, don't look it up. We gotta see.
Speaker 1: This is how you do. I knew you at some point,
Speaker 1: and I was prepared to say he's gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't let you do this. You
Speaker 1: don't ask that question that you don't have your own answer.
Speaker 1: You know what, I tried out for the w w E.
Speaker 1: When what just what? You think? You know a guy?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Yeah? I went down there for a tryout.
Speaker 1: What what you're in? Why twenty two? I think I
Speaker 1: went down there in like two thousand and seventeen, maybe
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen. I'm thinking it didn't go well. Nouderstand more personality.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, No, it was good. It was funny.
Speaker 1: I offered your deal, They offer me a deal, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you said no. Yeah, it wasn't enough money to
Speaker 1: be moving my family enough down to Orlando. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna see this. It was good. It all makes video,
Speaker 1: it's on YouTube. It all makes me. Can you do
Speaker 1: the moves? You know? It was a it was a
Speaker 1: three day camp. I think it was my home. I
Speaker 1: got my body hurt so bad I have after that.
Speaker 1: I had a whole due respect. I unders I don't
Speaker 1: want I'm ruining for the kids, but we all know
Speaker 1: what wrestling is. Okay, but the physicality, oh yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, top rope all that I didn't get there.
Speaker 1: All we did was we did we did handstand, summer saults, flips.
Speaker 1: You know, bumps is what they call it when you
Speaker 1: hit the you know, hit them, Matt running the ropes.
Speaker 1: My back, bro was done. You know it's elevator cables.
Speaker 1: The ropes are elevator cable wrapped in tape. So if
Speaker 1: you don't hit it right, it would take your soul
Speaker 1: from you. But my whole lats, my back was all
Speaker 1: just ripped up and read and swollen. It was bad.
Speaker 1: I'll show you guys a video. I know there's different terms.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't have the right terms. I mean,
Speaker 1: but are you a good guy or a bad guy?
Speaker 1: He'll I think it's the time. I was a good guy.
Speaker 1: I was a real one. You're gonna be a good guy.
Speaker 1: Oh that was a good guy. You might be one
Speaker 1: that turns though on your everybody turns. Everybody turns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they make everybody turn. I am so impressed right now.
Speaker 1: Can you tell by my face? I am impressed right now?
Speaker 1: Big w W fan, huge, huge. Whenever they come into town,
Speaker 1: I'm there. It was your favorite wrestler of all time?
Speaker 1: Stone called hands down Coco Beware. Oh yeah, what was
Speaker 1: his parents name? Oh, don't do me like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he can't be a big fan. Dang Coco beware, I
Speaker 1: mean I love I did too, I did too. What's
Speaker 1: his parents name? Frankie? Oh wow, I thought you didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I'm not here, but I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: sound right, Well, let's get this thick back on the rub.
Speaker 1: You got, Tammy, who's your favorite w W? I mean
Speaker 1: the von Erics. I mean, but they're not, you know,
Speaker 1: just Kevin's with us now, but uh yeah, I like them.
Speaker 1: I like the von Erics for sure. And and then
Speaker 1: I liked I mean, I like Randy Matchaman Savage. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: what's up? Chris? Who who's yours? Now? I was just
Speaker 1: looking up this and it says on Twitter Frankie Blue
Speaker 1: and Yellow Mocaw named Frankie that loser. I know. Oh
Speaker 1: my wrestling sort of. I'm not Rob Phillips. There's no
Speaker 1: way y'all done this with Rob Boy. He was with
Speaker 1: the Entertaker on a side. I'm still yeah, just be
Speaker 1: like hey Rob WrestleMania nine. He's like, wow, that was
Speaker 1: one of then Ultimate Warrior fought the Sergeant Slaughter. It's
Speaker 1: really kind of brain man esque the way that he
Speaker 1: does that. I really, I think he has a written
Speaker 1: down somewhere. It's no way that he knows it. Like
Speaker 1: it's like Nick with games. Super Bowls is kind of
Speaker 1: my thing. I could do that. But what he's got
Speaker 1: it miss his two teams playing in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and it's a party everyone goes to get. Like WrestleMania
Speaker 1: twenty one, it was like, wow, you know Tugboat won
Speaker 1: the Internet Continental Championship. I am such a loser. You
Speaker 1: get that right? Yeah? What about Jake the Snake? My son?
Speaker 1: My son is named Jacob. When we call him Jake,
Speaker 1: what was his snake's name? Don't don't, Duke? What are
Speaker 1: you doing me like this man? Damien? Damien? I think
Speaker 1: I'm pretty that sound right? But yeah, you know this man,
Speaker 1: you're just showing out right now you got me with
Speaker 1: the pair and now you get I'm showing out with
Speaker 1: wrestling love the well, look, let's get let's get this
Speaker 1: thing back on. Senior Bowl. Senior Bowl is going off
Speaker 1: in Kyle Yeoman's I think I could hear him breathing
Speaker 1: on the phone. Kyle Yeoman's how are you, sir? I'm good.
Speaker 1: It's probably the wind because I kind of escaped all
Speaker 1: the way up to the top of the stadium here,
Speaker 1: because I'm still trying to get a look at some
Speaker 1: guys while I'm waiting on you to ask me who
Speaker 1: who my favorite wrestler is? Oh well, well, let us
Speaker 1: ask who is your favorite wrestler? Kyle Yeomans, I'm with
Speaker 1: Isaiah one stone Cold all day every day. You glad
Speaker 1: my friend the North Texas Brethren. So yeah, stone Cold.
Speaker 1: I liked him before I knew he went to North Texas,
Speaker 1: but now now it's solidified. Okay, there any offensive linemen
Speaker 1: down there that remind you of stone calls if you busted,
Speaker 1: if you found yet, there's a couple of guys that
Speaker 1: are bigger than Stone Cold, So that's exciting. That's actually
Speaker 1: who I'm watching right now. So they've got they've got
Speaker 1: all of the position groups separated at the moment, and
Speaker 1: I'm right up on top of the offensive line. And
Speaker 1: really I tweeted this out a couple of moments ago,
Speaker 1: but Trevor Penning, offensive tackle slash guard out of Northern Iowa.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be a tackle because he's six foot
Speaker 1: seven and just a long, lean machine. I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy is the most physical, imposing guy out on the
Speaker 1: field at the moment. But there's a couple of guys.
Speaker 1: There's Gadecki out of Central Michigan who could potentially be
Speaker 1: a guard and maybe swing out the tackle as well.
Speaker 1: He's had a pretty good couple of reps. And then
Speaker 1: I really like uh Filol from Minnesota who is out
Speaker 1: here as well. So there's three guys that I've already tad,
Speaker 1: guys that could potentially come and slide in and fit
Speaker 1: into a potential mix if the Cowboys wanted to potentially
Speaker 1: go to that offensive line. Hey, Kyle, eighty centers out there?
Speaker 1: Uh not that I can really see nobody snapping at
Speaker 1: the moment, at least near me. I'm complete opposite side
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. And they they waited until I mean
Speaker 1: Robert Sala and company, the Jets coaching staff, is the
Speaker 1: one that's leading this practice. It started quote unquote at
Speaker 1: eleven thirty and I mean we're at what almost twelve
Speaker 1: and we're in the first drill, so i haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to see a whole lot of centers yet, But I'll
Speaker 1: let you. I'll get back to you on that one
Speaker 1: for sure. I said you got anything for Kyle. Uh,
Speaker 1: Kyle How are you doing, man, I'm good. How are
Speaker 1: you Isaiah? I'm kind of worried though, because you're out
Speaker 1: of breath. You said you went up up those stadium stairs. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then I'm trying to blame it on the wind.
Speaker 1: I just could just make sure to stay on your
Speaker 1: training regiment. Um, I am, I am, I'm good. No,
Speaker 1: this is definitely the wind that promise. Are there any um,
Speaker 1: you know big boys up front on the defensive line?
Speaker 1: Are there any you know guys that can consume some
Speaker 1: blockers for us on that defensive front? You are you
Speaker 1: seeing anything down here? Yeah? I think there's a couple
Speaker 1: of guys. I mean those trash cans full of dirt
Speaker 1: types that we kind of called like quintin Bohana last year.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of those guys down here. But of course,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a they have a track record of
Speaker 1: picking defensive tackles out of mobile. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: just two years ago, Nevill Gallimore in the third round
Speaker 1: Osa diggi Zoo last year. They like picking interior lineman
Speaker 1: that they get a really good look at. And I've
Speaker 1: seen Will McClay kind of wandering that direction on the
Speaker 1: field surface. And on the sideline, Perry On Winfrey is
Speaker 1: one guy that I really like. He may not be
Speaker 1: available if the Cowboys wanted to wait into the second
Speaker 1: round to pick him, which I don't think he would
Speaker 1: be an option at twenty four. I think he'd be
Speaker 1: a little bit rich for that. But at fifty eight,
Speaker 1: that's certainly a spot where he could land and maybe
Speaker 1: be an investment. In terms of stopping the run out
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma, he's a bigger player. He was a transfer
Speaker 1: that came in after Neville Gallimore, and honestly, his tape
Speaker 1: is better at stopping the run than Nevill Gallimore. Gallimore
Speaker 1: could rush the path through a little bit, but but
Speaker 1: Pierre On Winfrey looks like a guy who can maybe
Speaker 1: stop the run. So I'm excited to see what he
Speaker 1: has this week, and we'll get a better look at
Speaker 1: that when we get into team drills to Isaiah, because
Speaker 1: there's a really talented class of running backs. I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe eight of my ten top running backs are
Speaker 1: in Mobile right now, and so I think there's a
Speaker 1: good chance you're going to see exactly how an offensive
Speaker 1: line is going to get moved by those big trashkin
Speaker 1: full of dirt types in the middle of the defensive line,
Speaker 1: which is what the Cowboys could be looking for. Hey, Kyle,
Speaker 1: do you have your roster in front of you? It's
Speaker 1: on my phone. I've been going to digital route today,
Speaker 1: So what do you need to know? I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, tell me who's who's practicing what team and
Speaker 1: look at their corners. And then just because because I
Speaker 1: know how you've got usually you know, you're all you
Speaker 1: got all this color coded sheets and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Just go by the height the tallest corner that you're watching.
Speaker 1: That's the guy dan Quinn's looking at right there. Look,
Speaker 1: you got anybody in the sixth range that I've got,
Speaker 1: I've got your name And I mentioned him on the
Speaker 1: Draft Show last week. But to Rik Woolen, how to
Speaker 1: utsa Reek? The freak is Heckman. Got a chance to
Speaker 1: see him with me when called that North Texas utsa
Speaker 1: game six foot three. He was a wide receiver turned corner,
Speaker 1: which of course the Cowboys like those guys Treyvon Diggs
Speaker 1: um so they different competition there Alabama and Utah. Big
Speaker 1: week for him though, right, I mean, this is this,
Speaker 1: this is where those guys have to show that, all right,
Speaker 1: I didn't just do it in conference. Your say I'm
Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, that's kind of what what I'm leading into,
Speaker 1: because he did it in the best competition games that
Speaker 1: they had all year. I mean Western Kentucky, who has
Speaker 1: a quarterback here and a wide receiver here and Bailey's
Speaker 1: appy and a wide receiver slot guy that that Woolen
Speaker 1: actually got to cover a little bit, and he shut
Speaker 1: him down for one reception for six yards. And so
Speaker 1: even the best competition that he's seen still is here
Speaker 1: in Mobile. But now he's got an even playing field.
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to see what he's able to do. Uh,
Speaker 1: moving into the latter practice. He's not on the field
Speaker 1: at this very moment, but he will be in the
Speaker 1: late practice, and I think he could certainly kind of
Speaker 1: rise up draft boards and maybe be on the radar
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys if they wanted to take a guy.
Speaker 1: Moving forward, We've got Kyle Yeoman's on the phone from
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama, and Kyle, I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you about wide receivers and with Michael Gallup possibly
Speaker 1: leaving in free agency, and who knows what's going to
Speaker 1: happen with Amark Cooper, gotta ask, man, is there any
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel's prototypes down there? Do we have any of
Speaker 1: those Tarik Hills laying around? Yeah? Those? Wouldn't that be
Speaker 1: nice if you could just have a tag on a
Speaker 1: guy and say, hey, he's gonna be Deebo Daniel. That
Speaker 1: sounds great. Probably the closest thing, maybe not Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: but the closest thing to what the Cowboys could see
Speaker 1: is Johan Dotson. He's my number five rated wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He's the top guy here at the Senior Bowl. He's
Speaker 1: from Penn State, five foot eleven hundred and eighty five pounds,
Speaker 1: really really solid football player playing in the slot. He
Speaker 1: played a little bit outside, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: he would necessarily translate that into the NFL. I think
Speaker 1: for the most part, he'll probably stay as a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: But even if a guy like Gallup comes back and
Speaker 1: they hold onto a Mari and CD, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a guy that could rotate in and successfully play meaningful
Speaker 1: snaps and play some meaningful time with with this offense,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna probably he's probably limited this week.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of sad that I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a whole lot of chance to see him.
Speaker 1: But he's on the Senior Bowl Lift. He's down here
Speaker 1: in Mobile, and hopefully he's he's somebody that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: could maybe look at as well. Moving forward. Well, good, Kyle, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I have a question for him.
Speaker 1: You got a question, okay, Kyle. Well, you've had two
Speaker 1: meals there. I would imagine since you've been in Mobile,
Speaker 1: what have you where have you gone or just what
Speaker 1: have you eaten? Okay? So the first one, first stop,
Speaker 1: and it was actually the place where I learned about
Speaker 1: your Super Bowl trick was Mose Barbecue. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: went to Moose for lunch yesterday, and last night I
Speaker 1: met a friend of mine out for sushi at a
Speaker 1: place called klux Uh And it's a it was like
Speaker 1: a home grown sushi bar, like from from boat to
Speaker 1: table sort of deal. And I had this like big sushi.
Speaker 1: Roy was called the Donkey. Yeah, yeah, I lost. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter when you said barbecue, I was good. That
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, as long as you just went
Speaker 1: to Mobile and barbecue. Yeah, at least you know, one time,
Speaker 1: maybe two or three whatever. You gotta get barbecue if
Speaker 1: you go down there, oh yeah, or anywhere. What's the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl trick? I don't even know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. Where you can
Speaker 1: name every player and every coach or not coach, every
Speaker 1: player or him like that. Yeah, that'll trick. You mentioned
Speaker 1: it a moment ago with oh oh yeah. We had
Speaker 1: that conversation out there. Okay, my bad. We went Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was I gonna like when we go to the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I mean I'm going to like every barbecue
Speaker 1: place there is, so I mean, yeah, it's phenomenal, it
Speaker 1: really is. Most that's right. Well, Kyle, I'm the first
Speaker 1: drift though. All right, I'm keeping your seat warm today, sir,
Speaker 1: and I've got Chris Beam yelling in my ear to
Speaker 1: get off with you. I'm choking. I'm just choking with you, bad.
Speaker 1: But it's all good. We will be here waiting on
Speaker 1: you when you return. When are you getting back, by
Speaker 1: the way, new doctor Pepper, zero sugar. We would get
Speaker 1: back on Thursday. Yeah a good. Well, that's where Nick
Speaker 1: will be putting rose petals on the ground. We'll see
Speaker 1: you then, bro, Thank goodness. I love it. Later kay yo,
Speaker 1: soy ain't getting back Thursday. I'm just gonna tell you
Speaker 1: that that is not happening. And maybe he's good. Does
Speaker 1: he not know what he knows a little bit. We've
Speaker 1: we've talked about with the weather and all that, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening. So when you see that
Speaker 1: weather alert, you don't even yeah anyway, because he's Seattle,
Speaker 1: so obviously what this is like, it doesn't happen. Just
Speaker 1: Texans is freaking out. Man. It's cold weather. So if
Speaker 1: you don't know this. In Dallas, we're expecting some inclement
Speaker 1: weather on Wednesday night and Thursday and guaranteed schools will
Speaker 1: be closed. They they're already gearing up for my kids, said,
Speaker 1: we may I have school on Thursday. Said, why is it?
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna be cold. I'm like turning heat on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well we call it snow mcgedton around here. We just
Speaker 1: get it, just get some lights. Yeah. But going back
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl, guys, and I don't know obviously
Speaker 1: what you know about the players, the players that we
Speaker 1: are expecting, but as far as you know, obviously looking
Speaker 1: around the NFL, and we talked about being close, uh
Speaker 1: to championships weekend, any players in particular you're looking at.
Speaker 1: Are any group in particular you're looking at. I know
Speaker 1: you said something about defensive line, center, or those of
Speaker 1: positions in particular that you're looking for. I think for
Speaker 1: this team to be where they want to be, I
Speaker 1: think you have to secure the offensive line just right
Speaker 1: off the back. I mean you're you're asking, you're asking
Speaker 1: a lot of Dak. Now, obviously he has a lot
Speaker 1: of work he has to do this offseason. Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: has a lot of work he needs to do this offseason.
Speaker 1: Everybody has work to do. But you can't do any
Speaker 1: of it offensively unless you have those guys up front
Speaker 1: there taking care of business. You can't have a run
Speaker 1: game with the inexperience that we have at the guard
Speaker 1: in center position, and you can't have an effective passing
Speaker 1: game when you're giving up that kind of pressure from
Speaker 1: the interior offensive line. You just can't. You can't afford it.
Speaker 1: Or so our bookends are perfectly fine. I think Collins
Speaker 1: and and tiring out longs that they don't neither one
Speaker 1: of those guys try to shut it down or we
Speaker 1: call it a career. I think you're good there. Obviously
Speaker 1: you got you got a big boy, you know, at
Speaker 1: the right guard position, Martin, He's good. Now it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of getting hey, can it is beyond Is
Speaker 1: gonna be your guy or in good? We know Connor
Speaker 1: is not the guy going forward, so left guard for sure,
Speaker 1: and then I think you have to look at somebody
Speaker 1: who can challenge beyond Is and push him maybe to
Speaker 1: the level he needs to be playing at. What about
Speaker 1: you agree with that? I mean, and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, when you're looking at Senior Bowl where you're
Speaker 1: you know, the when you're picking up twenty four, you
Speaker 1: can get value. You can get value there. You can
Speaker 1: get maybe the best center, or maybe not the best
Speaker 1: center because the guy from Ioway here is really good.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you can get a guard center. Those
Speaker 1: guys are usually ready to play, and they you can
Speaker 1: get them at that ring. You can't if you get
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or defensive end or twenty four. You know,
Speaker 1: who knows if they might be the fifth or sixth
Speaker 1: best one. I won't go back to what he said
Speaker 1: about the running backs. He said eight of his ten
Speaker 1: running backs are there. That that means that they're all seniors.
Speaker 1: I don't think this means that it's a great class
Speaker 1: of running backs. I could be wrong there, but typically
Speaker 1: if you're a running back and you're a junior, you're
Speaker 1: ready to get out. You're not gonna you're gonna get
Speaker 1: paid if you're getting hit, and so you don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of great senior running backs. So to have
Speaker 1: them there and if that is the best in the group,
Speaker 1: maybe that, you know, it doesn't mean that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be It doesn't sound like there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of great running backs this year. But that's that's okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was just my observation, and that's not
Speaker 1: one position. I think the Cowboys got to go and
Speaker 1: get I think they do then to get one, you know,
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds, I think, I think it's time
Speaker 1: to draft the running back in a decent spot. Four
Speaker 1: fifth round, Do you have you got me? I think
Speaker 1: I think I think you've got your seven. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think they've lost one.
Speaker 1: I can't remember one for some reason. Six pop right up,
Speaker 1: I thought, they think, and I think they'll probably get
Speaker 1: a compensatory so they're probably gonna be right at seven. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now this obviously you've heard that this is in a
Speaker 1: quarterback rich draft, which we're obviously not in the market
Speaker 1: for one of those, but with Dalton Show and then
Speaker 1: asked this question, but Dalton Show could could possibly leave
Speaker 1: in free agency as well. It's tight end become that
Speaker 1: need that you you want to get Will McClay on
Speaker 1: and say, hey, let's get us one of these guys.
Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, because I also, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do with Jarvin? I mean, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got some money that you could get rid of. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to or if you want to just
Speaker 1: ride this thing out and say, hey, he was the
Speaker 1: guy and you know, first year coming back from ACL
Speaker 1: is always kind of tough. Um and see, you know,
Speaker 1: if he'll if he'll be the guy next year. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like I don't like losing Schultz.
Speaker 1: But I do think whoever you bring in you can.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this offense is not built around Schultz.
Speaker 1: It's built around the other guys, and those guys are
Speaker 1: going to benefit from it. So I think you let
Speaker 1: Schultz walk. I think I think you have to you
Speaker 1: let him walk out. The reason being it's not a
Speaker 1: capability thing in terms of that position. It's a can
Speaker 1: you get Jarwin to turn his dog on motor on?
Speaker 1: That's really all it comes down to. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything that Schultz does that jar One is incapable
Speaker 1: of doing. Is you know what I mean? You guys
Speaker 1: understad I'm getting it's not a talent thing. So they
Speaker 1: need to have offseason with jar One and say, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: we gave you the bag, Now it's time for you
Speaker 1: to start catching this thing in. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a discussion that has to be had with him. I
Speaker 1: think he needs to get his motor going. I think
Speaker 1: he has to have a willingness and a want to
Speaker 1: in terms of a blocking game. Um, that's something that
Speaker 1: they are going to expect of him. Schultz isn't a
Speaker 1: great blocker. Schultz isn't the greatest of receivers. He's not
Speaker 1: the greatest of yack yarders. There's nothing great about Schultz.
Speaker 1: But he was just effective. So I think you can
Speaker 1: ask that same thing of jarn Win, especially when you've
Speaker 1: already cut the check to him. Yeah, especially in a
Speaker 1: season where you needed some great tight end play with blocking,
Speaker 1: we never got any of that. And so obviously so
Speaker 1: many things coming down the road. We got a big
Speaker 1: time draft coming and twenty two Dallas Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: look a lot different than this year's squad. So look,
Speaker 1: stay with us. We'll be right back here on talking
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Speaker 1: See more, do more. Hello, I understand why his mic
Speaker 1: flip is so good is he has a stiffer micn
Speaker 1: My mind is a little bit looser over there. I
Speaker 1: have some w D forty on his is like you
Speaker 1: gotta force it. No, no, that that that Mike is
Speaker 1: about to fall apart. So okay, dispect this to Mickey
Speaker 1: Mike my fault. Oh, we already know what's this. Mic
Speaker 1: is messed up because of Hellman. Oh. I think Hellman
Speaker 1: likes it. Every time he talks, he's got to get
Speaker 1: in there like he's a DJ and he's got to
Speaker 1: move it and shake it and like you're not doing anything.
Speaker 1: He's like, come back an R and B singer, exam Raw,
Speaker 1: you just put David Hellman into jodasy category. And I
Speaker 1: can't un see it now. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: come and talk to me. From a previous segment. By
Speaker 1: the way, I looked up. You're right on Jake the
Speaker 1: Snakes us, that's use snakes. Do you know what the
Speaker 1: second Snakes was named? No, Damien two. No, it's ludicrous.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer, Yes, I kind of remember that, now, Lucifer,
Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. Man, it stopped like nine and then
Speaker 1: it's over. It's over eighty. Not what happened yet? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's Sean Keena? Right? Okay, Paw Patrol, hey man,
Speaker 1: Dora the Explorer, those are my people. But guys, I
Speaker 1: gotta get Das on the case though. Yeah, he's always
Speaker 1: been believed. Boy, I'm telling you on every case that dude,
Speaker 1: don't even don't even show. I got a game I
Speaker 1: want to play with you. Guys. It's called moving on,
Speaker 1: grooving on a slow down gym shoes, slow down gym shoes.
Speaker 1: All right, if we need to wait a minute, there
Speaker 1: may be something a little bit more and we can
Speaker 1: add to this stop the process. All right. So first
Speaker 1: player that I get to two players, I'm gonna combine
Speaker 1: them together. Okay, Randy Gregory versus Darren's Armstrong versus m hmmm,
Speaker 1: are you moving on? Grooving on from Randy Gregory. Are
Speaker 1: you slow down? Gym shoes on? Randy, oh Man, I
Speaker 1: hate to say this. Come on, I'm moving on. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm moving on. Are you serious? I am what? You
Speaker 1: have been the biggest Randy Gregory supporter for many I've
Speaker 1: been a big fan of his and I love his story.
Speaker 1: I love what he's been able to do. But you know,
Speaker 1: you can't keep everyone, and he's not gonna take a
Speaker 1: discount North shitty, and so I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: think I think I think you have to move on.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're gonna do something with Tank, But
Speaker 1: I think i'd rather have Tank than than Gregor. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to move on with him. I
Speaker 1: think he's he's outstanding, but I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of production there at the end.
Speaker 1: The penalties are still a problem and you can't sign everyone.
Speaker 1: That's really the main thing for me. Move on, you're
Speaker 1: moving on, getting move on? I like it, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Jerry Jones though it doesn't want to
Speaker 1: do that. He doesn't want to. He stood by him
Speaker 1: for a long time and when no one else was,
Speaker 1: and so that's the dude. Yeah, it's gonna That's and
Speaker 1: the thing. Randy loves dan Quinn too. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the first thing he talked about training camp. Love this guy.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, you might have a shot,
Speaker 1: but I just I can't compete with these other teams.
Speaker 1: But I you know, I don't know. You think these
Speaker 1: other teams are gonna just being up backing up the truck.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, but I don't. I still don't
Speaker 1: believe that Dallas is in a position to pay him,
Speaker 1: even on a little bit of a discount. I just
Speaker 1: can't do it unless they get rid of a Mary Cooper.
Speaker 1: All right. That's yeah. So Darren say, I'm strong your
Speaker 1: defensive end. You've had him on your on your roster
Speaker 1: for we already moved on from Brandy. We gonna move on.
Speaker 1: We gotta move on. Gonna think that's what I think.
Speaker 1: We got a group yeah with him. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, Dorn's armstrong is gonna piss people off.
Speaker 1: I can promise you that this is my prediction. Third
Speaker 1: day of free agency, shuff will be out the door,
Speaker 1: Gregory out the door, curse maybe and then they're gonna
Speaker 1: hit him with the door's armstrong. Even though that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good, solid signing, people are gonna be pissed.
Speaker 1: You know. They're like this guy Dornce, it's four and
Speaker 1: a half sacks or whatever he's got. You know, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy about it. Even though you gotta
Speaker 1: have good, solid players like that, defensive ents that can
Speaker 1: play special teams and do that. I mean, he's kind
Speaker 1: of those core players. But I just you know, I
Speaker 1: think you have to keep them if you're not gonna
Speaker 1: sign Randy. Now. My next group of players to moving
Speaker 1: on grooving on the slowdown gym shoes is the Monte
Speaker 1: kayz and versus Kean O'Neill. Are you moving on? Grooving
Speaker 1: on from Kaz, I'm moving on, moving on, moving on,
Speaker 1: so dramatic. This is this is my radio voice. This
Speaker 1: is radio. You can't play you can't radio, Yeah, absolutely can.
Speaker 1: That's like that's like, yeah, that's Hayes right there. It's
Speaker 1: not good. But wait, what do you what about you
Speaker 1: for de Monte Casey? Well, I think I'm gonna evaluate
Speaker 1: this position and um, are you going color? I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do that's funny that you said.
Speaker 1: I always wonder that about Kyle, Like, do you ever
Speaker 1: turn it off? I mean, do you ever just say
Speaker 1: I'll take a big mic and a six piece snuggets please,
Speaker 1: I'll take a sprite with that, thank you? He never
Speaker 1: turns it off. Sorry that I did not hit the
Speaker 1: sponsor with that. He definitely never turn Can you spare
Speaker 1: a square? Kyle? Is that you? They know good voice?
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't reach out to this tall you asking
Speaker 1: for trouble a girl? Can you past? You're acting like
Speaker 1: he doesn't keep one with him? This is right? So
Speaker 1: he autographs in the bathroom. Oh man? All right? So
Speaker 1: what about Kean O'Neill, nick? No, bye, what's what's that
Speaker 1: moving on? That? That didn't work? I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think it worked out. I think it did. I
Speaker 1: think it worked out. I don't think that is a
Speaker 1: position that you can't fulfiel what he did. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I look at that, right, you
Speaker 1: look at what you got to pay a veteran versus
Speaker 1: what you'd be paying for a young guy. I think
Speaker 1: you can get that same productivity out of out of
Speaker 1: somebody who's younger. Now, now did the guys have a
Speaker 1: year under their belt with dan Quinn? Right, the main
Speaker 1: reason why you brought those guys in was because of
Speaker 1: their understanding to help launch this thing with dan Quinn
Speaker 1: as the leader on the decided ball. Now you have
Speaker 1: that year under your belt, guys are understanding of the
Speaker 1: of the system. I think you can now walk away
Speaker 1: from those guys if they're asking for too much. You
Speaker 1: do need some linebackers. Somebody, somebody's gonna played linebacker, because
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be Laton. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Layton needs to play with somebody that.
Speaker 1: I mean. I think Layton needs to go into like
Speaker 1: the AFC North, I mean, I really do. I think
Speaker 1: he needs to go to a team or that faces
Speaker 1: running styles like like we saw against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: He played well in that game. He had some nice plays.
Speaker 1: It was a physical matchup. But when you're going up
Speaker 1: against these these offenses that are throwing the ball around,
Speaker 1: that's not his thing, right, He needs and I think
Speaker 1: he needs to go in a division where it is
Speaker 1: a little bit more like that. I mean, so my
Speaker 1: next group, where are going to be Jerun Curse and
Speaker 1: Layton vander Ess. But you've already got the Layton. So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you're moving on from him? I move
Speaker 1: on from him. Um, what about Jay Run Curse? Do
Speaker 1: you pay premium for Ja Run Curse? This is the
Speaker 1: slowdown to find priest premium. This is a moment brought
Speaker 1: to you by Slowdown Gym shoots Slow down right, yeah?
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah? How about you on the slowdown Jim Shoes?
Speaker 1: If I'm using that correctly, you think I think that
Speaker 1: you have two dgs. I mean I think you just
Speaker 1: have to call it that. It's so popular you just
Speaker 1: call it SDGs. Right, slowdown Jim Shoes. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: supposed to be with the j you hit it with that.
Speaker 1: I think you need him on the roster. I did
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that you're your best opportunity
Speaker 1: to retain him. Just happened this past week. Yeah, alright.
Speaker 1: My new nickname for him is a K twenty seven
Speaker 1: AK tent seven as like that. He's an askick now
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he brings the attitude and he
Speaker 1: doesn't care. I mean, really, that's what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: brings that and he doesn't care. Whose defense it is
Speaker 1: to him Tank was out for so long whatever, somebody
Speaker 1: needs a leader and he steps up and does that.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's needed on this roster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm groving on with him. I think his impact act. Obviously,
Speaker 1: no one went during two days or thought that he
Speaker 1: was going to make the impact that he did, and
Speaker 1: he came out of nowhere and absolutely became a star
Speaker 1: on this squad. But this is one for Nick. I
Speaker 1: really hope that this infuriates you. Leo Collins to left guard,
Speaker 1: okay with it? I'm okay with if he's if he will,
Speaker 1: if he's gonna do it, I mean, if he's going
Speaker 1: to do it. This is a huge offseason for him. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, that's a that's a lot
Speaker 1: of money you could save there. He very well could
Speaker 1: be in the moving on because if you look at
Speaker 1: his contract, especially post June one, you'd have to clarify
Speaker 1: him as a or doesn't him post June one? You're
Speaker 1: saving about ten million there. Wow, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if you would even want to pay that for your
Speaker 1: left guard who hasn't done it in five or six years, right,
Speaker 1: So would be a slowdown gym shoes for you to
Speaker 1: possibly get something in return because you don't just let
Speaker 1: him walk, do you. I mean yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: trade him, but you can't trade somebody post Tune one.
Speaker 1: So it is a big difference there as you saved
Speaker 1: like two or three this year and you saved ten.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna do it, you'd have to do
Speaker 1: it in a post June one and I don't think
Speaker 1: that would be a trade part of it. But I
Speaker 1: don't know with tiring situation. I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: gotta have three tackles. You gotta have three tackles, you do,
Speaker 1: I mean lyle might be in a situation where you
Speaker 1: actually do cut the guy post June one, like, not
Speaker 1: just designate him that because you wait till trade it.
Speaker 1: You wait till the draft. You see what you got. Oh,
Speaker 1: you ended up getting a guy at twenty four who's
Speaker 1: a left tackle, can play a little bit of guard.
Speaker 1: He's your third guy with steel and tiring, maybe not
Speaker 1: in that order, but tiring and steel, and then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you can you can part ways. But I want
Speaker 1: to hear what Isaiah says about the left guard part.
Speaker 1: Do you like that? I don't like him going to
Speaker 1: left guard because then you have to try to find
Speaker 1: a tackle. And I think it's a lot easier to
Speaker 1: find a guard than it is to find a tackle.
Speaker 1: So I think that you keep your book ins where
Speaker 1: they are. You address your center in your left guard
Speaker 1: position with some either some competition at the center position.
Speaker 1: Definitely need to find a veteran left guard, not a rookie.
Speaker 1: You get a rookie and develop him unless he's an
Speaker 1: absolutely just beast and dog that you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: come in there and just just power drive guys. You
Speaker 1: need to get a veteran in there because you don't
Speaker 1: need Dak questioning. You don't need anything else on his
Speaker 1: plate in terms of him you're having question marks regarding
Speaker 1: what his capabilities are or killing Moore. You don't need
Speaker 1: to take out all the excuses. Look, Kellen, listen, there's
Speaker 1: there's protection now what you know who they need? They
Speaker 1: need an old cowboy. Fans will get this and you
Speaker 1: guys will get this. They need Kyle Kozar. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: need that guy. That's gonna be cheap in free agency.
Speaker 1: He's been around, maybe it hasn't worked out. He comes here.
Speaker 1: He was the worst player on that offensive line and
Speaker 1: one of the best players still, because that was a
Speaker 1: talented line. It was a big line. That's the thing
Speaker 1: they got to go back to. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: the center. The center was Andre Gerad three thirty, you know,
Speaker 1: but then he had Leonard Davis, which was a country
Speaker 1: and then I mean right flow, and then Mark Colombo,
Speaker 1: who is his zip code? Yeah? Mark Colombo was just
Speaker 1: like I mean, if he wasn't playing football, he'd have
Speaker 1: that black t shirt on outside the club that just
Speaker 1: said staff. You know, he's just a bouncer. You're just
Speaker 1: ready to fight people. Yeah, that's the guy that you
Speaker 1: don't not show your ID. Here's my ID, sir, I
Speaker 1: just want to get in, say leather vest On, Show Judge, right,
Speaker 1: that's show Judge, Chris Judge. This is so the last
Speaker 1: last guy I forgot about that. Yeah, no, Joe Josher didn't.
Speaker 1: So then you're fine with tern Steele at the right
Speaker 1: tackle position. I'm fine. I'm not fine. You hold your
Speaker 1: breath every time, but you're grooving though. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you didn't even mention tern Steele. He's not You keep
Speaker 1: your tackles, You keep your tackles. Tern Steele could be
Speaker 1: your swing tackle once again. Back up, but you want Tyran,
Speaker 1: you want like in there, and you need to ensure
Speaker 1: that your tackle. It's too hard to find good tackles.
Speaker 1: It's too hard. Even if they're even if they're not
Speaker 1: what they were, they're still better than what you could
Speaker 1: probably find. Let's start looking though. Oh absolutely, but yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely you that now. I'm not saying you don't address
Speaker 1: it by bringing somebody in to start developing them, but
Speaker 1: in terms of finding somebody that can just walk in
Speaker 1: and be your starter, don't. I don't think that's really
Speaker 1: a reality right now. From the guy that is ready
Speaker 1: to mortgage our future, Isaiah stand Back. Way to put
Speaker 1: it all online, Guys, this has been fun. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Talking Cowboys Episode five hundred and eighty. Chris
Speaker 1: Beam in the back, thank you so much, into Nick Eatman,
Speaker 1: thank you for standing for pushing pe Island, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and obviously my guy here, Isaiah stand Back, and for
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys and Kyle Joms. I have to throw him
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