WEBVTT - Ep. 158: Deer Stories - Passion and Lies (Part 3)

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I got this. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what drives Amanda to jump out of bed and a

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<v Speaker 1>frosty morning and go several miles back in the mountain

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there in a tree all day.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our third and final Deer Stories episode of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, and we are now in the core

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<v Speaker 2>of the best white tailed dates on the calendar, and

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<v Speaker 2>to stoke the fire, we're going to tell some wild stories.

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<v Speaker 2>One from the big Mountains of East Tennessee, couple from Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about some decoyed bucks, some coyotes

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<v Speaker 2>and bucks, some deer doged bucks, and a two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>inch buck, and one straight up deer hunting lie. The

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<v Speaker 2>connector of all these stories in all three episodes we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard is the passion, respect, and a true appreciation of

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<v Speaker 2>deer hunting translated through the voices of these hunters. What

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<v Speaker 2>a privilege it is to be a white tail hunter

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<v Speaker 2>and we're living in its heyday. After this podcast, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going back to our regular documentary style stories, So enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>this last episode before we start learning hard stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>digging deep again, cracking into this American hunting culture. We've

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<v Speaker 2>found ourselves embedded in. But that being said, our stories

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<v Speaker 2>carry the culture, our values, and our future. I really

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<v Speaker 2>doubt you're gonna want to miss this one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a weird deal, just an old majestic buck

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<v Speaker 3>like that, you know, lived this whole life and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just my buck of a lifetime. We start taping

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<v Speaker 3>this deer well we ran out of tape.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Clay Nukem, and this is the Bear

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<v Speaker 2>Grease Podcast, where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant, search

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<v Speaker 2>for insight and unlikely places, and where we'll tell the

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<v Speaker 2>story gory of Americans who lived their lives close to

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<v Speaker 2>the land, presented by FHF gear, American made, purpose built

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<v Speaker 2>hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged

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<v Speaker 2>as the place as we explore. Henry Sioux Song is

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<v Speaker 2>eighty years old and from the rough country of East Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've never been there, trust me, it is

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<v Speaker 2>some rough country that rivals anywhere on this continent. Mister

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<v Speaker 2>Henry stands among an elite class of humans healthy enough

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<v Speaker 2>to pursue their passions into their eighties. But perhaps even

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<v Speaker 2>more unique, his internal drive for his passion hasn't decreased.

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<v Speaker 2>His fire burns hot. The man bubbles with infectious energy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went to mister Henry's home, he led me

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<v Speaker 2>into a large room filled wall to wall with deer heads,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean big deer. He grinned like a possum

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<v Speaker 2>meating red ants while describing how he and his sons

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<v Speaker 2>had taken all these deer with archery gear. Many came

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<v Speaker 2>from Tennessee, others came from the Midwest. The bucks ranged

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<v Speaker 2>from basket racks to stacks of one fifties and one sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way up to a two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>inch giant. He had one buck with a twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>inch spread on the wall. I asked mister Henry to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me his most memorable story, which was difficult, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is the one that he picked. Meet mister Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety one is when I first found sign

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<v Speaker 1>of this big buck. It was deep in a Cherokee

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<v Speaker 1>National Forest. It began when my son and I went

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<v Speaker 1>there and hunted a couple of years. He wound up

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<v Speaker 1>killing a one hundred and thirty four inch eight point

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and another big buck that they called slew

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<v Speaker 1>Foot because he was crippling one leg, which made I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that leg or the other leg. When he made

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<v Speaker 1>a scrape, it was a lot bigger than it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got to going back in this area and

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<v Speaker 1>packing in and staying, you know, three days at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>We come out. First year when I found the sign

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<v Speaker 1>of the big buck, we didn't get him. The acorn

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<v Speaker 1>crop wasn't real good. Second year, same thing. I found

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<v Speaker 1>the sign, knew there was a big buck there, but

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<v Speaker 1>again the acorns weren't real good. Probably he had some

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<v Speaker 1>rubs the size of a ball capot six seven inches

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<v Speaker 1>through quite a few of Then comes the third year,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had been to Illinois looking for some deer

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<v Speaker 1>sign and my son was all enthused about going to Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I can't go to Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I found about forty crapes on one ridge back there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mountains are pretty steep back in that end.

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<v Speaker 1>On the crest of the ridges, it's where the deer

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<v Speaker 1>makes scrapes, and I also feed on acres sometimes. The

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<v Speaker 1>sign that he made would be two miles long. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>if I go back there one more trip with you,

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<v Speaker 1>will you then go to Illinoise. I said, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>give me one more change. I said, let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>there and see if we can't get him. So we

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<v Speaker 1>went back and put our little pufp tin up packed

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<v Speaker 1>ten put her pup tin up. It was October the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth, nineteen ninety three, went hundred trees stands, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning, just a crack of daylight, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>something that i'd heard before, and it was a deer

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<v Speaker 1>having his horns in limbs over his head. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a clicking sound. A lot of people heard it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he came out the top of a ridge and I

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<v Speaker 1>could see the top of his rack. I had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen the deer before, but I knew he was big.

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<v Speaker 1>By studying the sign, you can tell a lot, but

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<v Speaker 1>the sign by the track and the scrapes, by the

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<v Speaker 1>damage he does. So he came out this ridge and

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<v Speaker 1>he had two scrapes underneath the tree I was in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, well, maybe he will go straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>If he does, he's too far to shoot. But he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He turned down the ridge comes straight to the scrapes.

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<v Speaker 1>I shot him when he's standing right below the scrape,

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<v Speaker 1>within ten foot of the tree, right down through the

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<v Speaker 1>between the front shoulders. He ran out the ridge about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five eighty yards turned down the ridge and went

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<v Speaker 1>out of my sight. So I sat there for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while, and I knew immediately it's been several years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the biggest deer I'd ever seen, both horns and

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<v Speaker 1>body wise. So I got out out of the tree,

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<v Speaker 1>went down there, and the direction he run. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>try to follow the blood trail, but I knew why

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<v Speaker 1>I could pick it up. But when I got down there,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking up on the size of the ridge

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<v Speaker 1>looking for him, and looked down and he was right

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<v Speaker 1>under my feet dead. One thing that I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. I finally found my son. He got out

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<v Speaker 1>out of the tree about eleven o'clock and come back

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<v Speaker 1>to for with camp and I told him, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I got him. So we started pulling this deer at

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<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock. We put him on the four wheeler at

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<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock at night. That's how That's how tough it

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<v Speaker 1>was to get out. It was just I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just so far back, you know, in a remote area,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got him out. So it was just an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute huge deer for the high a mountain, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing in this part of the country. Scored one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty five inches and it's only got five eighths

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<v Speaker 1>of a niche deduction on the whole rack. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an amazing thing too. I've never seen one

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<v Speaker 1>that close. That's just that's you know, that's just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the stories. He's hanging right here right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where I got this. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>drives a man to jump out of bed and frosty

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<v Speaker 1>morning and go several miles back in the mountains to

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<v Speaker 1>sit thereunder a tree all day. Except none of my people,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I can find out, fish or hunted.

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<v Speaker 1>An old man in North Carolina. When I was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old, I got acquaint which sold me a

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<v Speaker 1>used bow he had in three wooden iras for twenty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I started. I think maybe I shot

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<v Speaker 1>at a deer that year, but a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>went with men. Someone asked him, as you see a deer,

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<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, Henry shot at one. He said, how

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<v Speaker 1>close was it? He said, well, it kissed him. I

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<v Speaker 1>missed him. I found an old tree stand back in

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains and got up in it. Said I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a tree stand, and for the first three or

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<v Speaker 1>four years, I didn't have a tree stand. I finally

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<v Speaker 1>figured out I could take an old Coca Cola case

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<v Speaker 1>that they used to put bottles in it up in

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<v Speaker 1>a tree. It made a pretty good stand. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I hunted off over too through a year. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's been many years ago. But it's something you get

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<v Speaker 1>into that you love and you just get it in

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<v Speaker 1>your blood. A lot of times when I go back

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<v Speaker 1>in the mountains, I like to go back there in

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<v Speaker 1>October and watch the leaves fall when they all turn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always thought there's something magic in the mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of magical to watch boomers. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what a boomer is. Okay, a boomer is a

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<v Speaker 1>little squirrel. They're fastest green lighting and they live about

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand feet elevation in the mountains, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>to watch those play. They're fast. I like to watch

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<v Speaker 1>squirrels bear all the animals. I mean, it's just magic

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Once you get in your blood, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get it out. You've got to go every year. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the story of my favorite buck from the place

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<v Speaker 1>in the Turkey National Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you as passionate about bow hunting now as you

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<v Speaker 2>were when you were in your thirties every bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So probably the reason that is is I know what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming to an end.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been forciate enough to hunt some some people had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect for over the years. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of my one of my good friends, was ten years

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<v Speaker 1>and ten days older than I am, and he told

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<v Speaker 1>me one day, he said, there'll come a day when

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have to stop, and it'll be it'll be tough

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<v Speaker 1>on you. He said, happen to me, it'll happen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that's true. Yeah, but I still love

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<v Speaker 1>to go back in the mountains and I can still

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<v Speaker 1>do it and probably will till something happens. Give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example. Last year, I was in the remote area.

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<v Speaker 1>I called and I was on top of the mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes about an hour to get up there, up

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<v Speaker 1>a tree, and a fella came by and he finally

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<v Speaker 1>spotted me, and he stopped by and apologized for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>affecting my dear honey. I said, man, I haven't seen anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, I believe I've seen you here before

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, yeah, I've hunted here for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said how old are you? And I said

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be eighty my birthday and he said, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe it, he said. I said, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say anything. I know how lucky I am, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he left, he said, you know it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, come on top of this mountain and see

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<v Speaker 1>an old man up a tree that's seventy nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been lucky. Maybe the reason that I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the High Country's course he's taking care of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Henry is a special man, full of energy, passion,

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<v Speaker 2>and a love of white tailed deer hunting that rivals

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<v Speaker 2>any I've encountered. To my knowledge, he's never been interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>about his hunting. He never cared to be, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>been extremely successful as a bow hunter in Passing. He

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<v Speaker 2>told me that once some knucklehead had spread a rumor

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<v Speaker 2>in the community that those Sioux song boys were killing

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<v Speaker 2>all these deer at night. He chuckled and told the

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<v Speaker 2>numbskulled naysayer, they're hard enough to kill during the daytime.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine trying to kill one at night, As

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<v Speaker 2>if to say, we're not as good.

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<v Speaker 4>As you think we are. Buddy, but I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was pretty witty.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Henry, thanks for sharing your story with us. Our

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<v Speaker 2>next story is told by my friend Aaron Stanfel. He

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<v Speaker 2>was on our first Deer Stories episode and told about

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<v Speaker 2>going to the bathroom and calling in those two deer.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a short story about two wild days in Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>with his brother Andy.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother and I are in Kansas two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 3>on his birthday, November the tenth, we were hunting a

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<v Speaker 3>huge beanfield and we had decided that we were going

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<v Speaker 3>to try to decoy a deer in for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we uh, we bought us a primos I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember. I think his name was Bucky Little primost

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky Dick coming to a green bag. We set it

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<v Speaker 3>up at the edge of the beanfield, and we'd watched

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<v Speaker 3>enough videos we knew to turn it kind of turning

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<v Speaker 3>towards us in the tree. You want to do that

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<v Speaker 3>because if a deer's coming in, you want the deer

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<v Speaker 3>to come around your decoy because he'll always come in

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<v Speaker 3>and face him headfirst. He won't ever approach another deer

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<v Speaker 3>from the back. So we knew if he come around

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<v Speaker 3>to the front.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Broadside shot the deer with We put this bucky dikoy

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<v Speaker 3>up eighteen yards in front of us. We was both

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<v Speaker 3>in this big cedar tree. Here steps out a beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful nine pointer out of the corner of the beanfield,

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<v Speaker 3>probably about I don't know, one hundred yards. It was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of walking away, but it stopped and it saw

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<v Speaker 3>the decoy. And when it did, it immediately immediately through

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<v Speaker 3>its ears back straight backwards and just bristled up and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just hunched over and just stiff legged all

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<v Speaker 3>the way across the field. It was the most dramatic,

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<v Speaker 3>the most exciting thing that I've ever witnessed. Comes all

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<v Speaker 3>the way into the decoy. I had to close my eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget I had my eyes closed. I was

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to get my thoughts together. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I have got to keep it together right here.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so.

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<v Speaker 3>Nervous, I was shaking. It comes around the head of

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<v Speaker 3>the decoy and it just throws its head and it

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<v Speaker 3>knocks the whole head off of the decoy just out

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<v Speaker 3>there on the ground. Well, when it did, the deer

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<v Speaker 3>just stood there, still run off. It just stood there like,

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<v Speaker 3>what in the world, you know, And my brother's like, Aaron, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Shoot the deer? Shoot the deer, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hang on, I gotta get this together. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I can't even draw my bow back. I

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<v Speaker 3>was shaking so much. And anyway, I finally got drew back,

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<v Speaker 3>made a great shot on the deer and it expired

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<v Speaker 3>right there in the middle of the bean field. Still

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<v Speaker 3>probably the most exciting hunt I've ever been and just

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<v Speaker 3>the way that he came in was just incredible. The

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<v Speaker 3>next evening, my brother said, hey, let's do that again.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get in the same tree. We'll do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gotta be another deer in there. So we did

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<v Speaker 3>another really nice deer, probably one hundred and thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>inch ten pointer, come out the far other end of

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<v Speaker 3>the beanfield, probably four hundred yards, just had his look

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<v Speaker 3>through the binoculars to see it. My brother said, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big buck. He's like, snort, wheeze addy, So

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<v Speaker 3>I just sh you know, really loud. He heard it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he come running all the way across the beanfield,

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<v Speaker 3>saw the decoy, exact same thing, come in head first

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<v Speaker 3>to the decoy, and he made a fantastic shot on

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<v Speaker 3>the deer. We filmed the whole thing. We killed bucks

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<v Speaker 3>back to back nights over at Decoy, and but we

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<v Speaker 3>snort wheezed that deer and it was it was so

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<v Speaker 3>such a good hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some good hunting. I asked Aaron if he had

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<v Speaker 2>any more memorable stories. He hesitated for a moment and

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<v Speaker 2>said he'd like to tell one. It's really more of

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<v Speaker 2>a confession than a story. The two other guys that

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna mention here are mutual friends of ours, Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Brown and Lucas Austin. And this story is not Bear

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<v Speaker 2>Grease approved, mister Aaron, but I'm pretty sure everybody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a funny one. I don't know what year

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<v Speaker 3>it was, it had to have been nineteen ninety eight

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<v Speaker 3>or nineteen ninety nine. That's when I met all the

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<v Speaker 3>Meana bunch, and I'd invited them to come over and

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<v Speaker 3>have a deer camp with us over on some public

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<v Speaker 3>land here in north of Arkansas. And Lucas Awsen and

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Brown they had been out driving around scouting for

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<v Speaker 3>the deer camp, and they came back to camp and

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<v Speaker 3>it was a tough year. I hadn't found any sign

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<v Speaker 3>at all to even hunting. They came back to camp

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<v Speaker 3>and of course, I you know, I told him that

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<v Speaker 3>I knew the woods like the back of my hand.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I knew every ridge over there.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew well.

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<v Speaker 3>They came back to camp and they said, man, we

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<v Speaker 3>have flat out found him. Said, we have found this

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<v Speaker 3>ridge that is just covered in deer, sun, white oak,

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<v Speaker 3>acorns all over the ground. I thought, man, really we're

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<v Speaker 3>at said, you know over there, and they described exactly

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<v Speaker 3>where it was at, and I said, yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to I've got a tree stand. I've never told this

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<v Speaker 3>for I've never I don't think they're even told brown.

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<v Speaker 6>See.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've got a tree stand on that ridge. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be kidding me. We didn't see one.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, I do. I said I've got one

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<v Speaker 3>up there the top. And I didn't have a tree

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<v Speaker 3>stand there. And they thought, man, that was should have known.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Stanfield is gonna be have He's already figured

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<v Speaker 3>found out. So they went somewhere else. The next day,

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<v Speaker 3>I whilled in there at daylight and I hadn't been

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<v Speaker 3>in the tree ten minutes, and the big ol'd dough

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<v Speaker 3>come in there and I shot her, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I ever told them. We've called that liar's ridge

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<v Speaker 3>to this day. I'm not proud of it, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>just how it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron, that was downright dirty, brother. I'm glad you finally

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<v Speaker 2>got that off your chest. Confession is a powerful tool,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you owe Scott and Luca deer. The

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<v Speaker 2>way I figure it, twenty years of compound interest on

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<v Speaker 2>a doe deer, by my calculations, equals one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five inch buck. You owe both of them both

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and thirty five inch deer. Don't lie to

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<v Speaker 2>your hunting buddies, Okay, I'm going to tell the next story.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the first big buck that I ever killed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of my most memorable hunts. It was

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<v Speaker 2>October the twenty fifth, nineteen ninety eight. And that's an

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<v Speaker 2>important date because as a deer I've learned that dates

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<v Speaker 2>are very important, and it's something that I remember pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the deer that I've killed, I could tell you the.

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<v Speaker 2>Date of almost every one of the big bucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>it started with this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I was nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I was coming back to my hometown from where I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to college my first year of college at

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas Tech University, I was going back to hunt with

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<v Speaker 2>Dad on some scrubby public land that we grew up hunting.

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<v Speaker 2>This land was primarily pine plantation. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of forestry going on there, so there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of clear cuts, but they would leave the hardwood timber

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<v Speaker 2>along the riparian zones along the creeks, and in late

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<v Speaker 2>October when the acrons were falling, that's where you'd find

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<v Speaker 2>the deer wherever you found the oaks, which was along

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<v Speaker 2>the creeks. This was the spot that my dad and

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<v Speaker 2>I had hunted a lot in years previous.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a place we called blue Bucket.

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<v Speaker 2>First time Dad went in there, he saw a blue bucket,

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<v Speaker 2>and so from then on it was called blue Bucket. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a narrow strip of hardwood timber with two

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<v Speaker 2>clearcuts on either side, and the clearcuts met and the

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<v Speaker 2>timber narrowed down into a point, and right at that

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<v Speaker 2>point was where Dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Had found multiple big scrapes.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had been in there scouting in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the day the week before, bumbling around and actually

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<v Speaker 2>heard a deer coming, got real quiet and still and

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<v Speaker 2>watched this big buck come through the mill around in there,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really unusual to lay your eyes on a

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<v Speaker 2>big buck while you're scouting. And for whatever reason, that

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<v Speaker 2>next weekend, Dad didn't want to hunt in there. He

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<v Speaker 2>probably just wanted me to have the good spot. But

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<v Speaker 2>I went in there and hung a stand within twenty

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<v Speaker 2>yards of this scrape. I went in early on the

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<v Speaker 2>morning of the twenty fifth. There was a frost on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. It was just the perfect morning. At this

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<v Speaker 2>time in my hunting career, I had killed several deer

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<v Speaker 2>with a bow, but I had never killed a mature buck,

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, I had never seen a mature buck from stand.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is also a time when we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>trail cameras, we didn't have cell phones, and I might

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<v Speaker 2>hunt a whole season to get an opportunity at one

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<v Speaker 2>spike buck. Well, as the morning came on about forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes after daylight, about the time you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you ought to be seeing some game, I hear something

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<v Speaker 2>coming in behind me in the leaves.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear walking. I get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I turn around, and here comes a coyote and he's

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<v Speaker 2>zigging and zagging through the trees, mousing hunting, and he

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<v Speaker 2>starts hunting all around these oaks that are just raining

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<v Speaker 2>acrens that my deer are about to be at. The

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<v Speaker 2>kyote gets in right close to this big scrape, and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hesitate, and I still don't hesitate to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned with predators that if you're going to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>one with a bow, you can't hesitate. You just have

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<v Speaker 2>to make up your mind before they even get there

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to shoot a coyote if it's legal,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was. By the time he got into the open,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like ten feet from this big.

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<v Speaker 4>Scrape and I pull back and shoot this coyote.

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<v Speaker 2>He drops right there, right in the heart of where

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<v Speaker 2>the deer activity is supposed to be. There's a dead

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<v Speaker 2>coyote laying there. I realize I got to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>I climb out of the stand. I dragged the coyote

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<v Speaker 2>over to the creek within sight of my stand and

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<v Speaker 2>throw it in the water so it's submerged in the water,

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<v Speaker 2>so that a deer wouldn't be smelling the kyote. But

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<v Speaker 2>still there's kyote blood and scent all just right around

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<v Speaker 2>where the deer going to be I think my morning's

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<v Speaker 2>probably shot. Climb back up in the tree about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour later, so now it's probably around eight point thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear something coming. I hear steady walking, steady, loud walking.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so loud that I think it's a cow because

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<v Speaker 2>there were free range cattle on this public land, or

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a man. Typically a deer is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>walk and stop, walk a little bit and stop. This

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<v Speaker 2>was just steady for fifty sixty seventy yards, just steady

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<v Speaker 2>and loud. And I get to the point where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even excited anymore. I'm just waiting for a man

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<v Speaker 2>to pop out or a cow. Well, my eyes are

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<v Speaker 2>just fixed on where I think this sound's gonna pop up.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, I look up and there's the biggest buck

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen from the stand in my whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>probably the biggest deer.

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>And he proceeds to walk right past where that coyote was,

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<v Speaker 2>right past the coyote blood stand in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>that scrape, and go to work in that scrape. Well

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<v Speaker 2>about the time he gets there, I get to full

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<v Speaker 2>draw and I'm shooting a Matthew Zmax, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new bow to me, and it had a very

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<v Speaker 2>distinct valley, which means at the pinnacle moment of the

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>draw cycle it drops into its let off very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's great.

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>But I was having trouble though, when I would relax

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit too much right before the shot and

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<v Speaker 2>the bow would jerk down and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at full draw.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest buck I've ever seen is working a scrape,

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<v Speaker 2>which this is something I'd only seen on television, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to shoot this deer at twenty yards and boom,

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<v Speaker 2>the bow jerks down and I have this fast, erratic movement.

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<v Speaker 4>I just know that the buck has seen me.

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<v Speaker 2>I close my eyes and I just barely crack him open,

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<v Speaker 2>expecting to see a tail running off.

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<v Speaker 4>And the buck has not seen me.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's now done working his scrape and he's turning

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<v Speaker 2>and he's leaving.

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<v Speaker 4>I draw the bow back. The deer is now at.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty three yard it's quartering away, and he stops out

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<v Speaker 2>there and I touch off the trigger and the arrow

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<v Speaker 2>just arcs into one of the most beautiful shots I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever made. The Arab just buried up to the fletching

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<v Speaker 2>behind the last rib on a steep quartering shot and

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<v Speaker 2>the deer runs off.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's eight thirty in the morning.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I've now got a coyote in the creek and I've

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 2>shot a big buck. And we didn't have cell phones.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't call my dad. He was gonna come back

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>at eleven o'clock that morning. It's a really unique feeling

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 2>that I had never fully felt before. When when you've

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 2>killed a big deer but you hadn't recovered it yet.

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>It's a unique experience of the mind, soul, body, spirit.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:53.360
<v Speaker 2>There's chemicals flowing, there's emotions flowing. That's hard to describe.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that you could describe it to a

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>non hunter, that feeling that we get. And I just

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 2>paced up and down the road, paced up and down

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the road for two and a half hours, and at

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<v Speaker 2>about eleven ten, Dad pulls up and he said he

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>could tell when he saw me in the road that

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>something special had happened. And I say, Dad, I've killed

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a big buck.

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<v Speaker 4>We go track the deer. The deer hadn't run fifty

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 4>yards and it's the biggest deer I've ever killed. It

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 4>was a very mature buck.

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 2>It had to have weighed at the upper side of

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>what deer in that region would weigh. I mean, it

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 2>was a big four and a half five and a

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 2>half year old buck. We took a bunch of pictures,

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>and I remember we took a picture down to the

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.959
<v Speaker 2>local bow shop in my hometown and hung that picture

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 2>up on the wall. And I remember what a deep

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>sense of accomplishment that I felt, as I was one

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 2>of the people in the community that year that killed

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 2>a really nice deer with a bow, and I remember

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the local paper took my picture, and at the time

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have realized how meaningful that was to me

0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and how much that influenced me.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a double white throat patch.

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 2>He was a nine point that scored one hundred and

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty six inches, and that buck hangs in my office

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>to this day. That was a memorable buck that hooked

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>me on those white oak acres for life and made

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>me love October twenty fifth. At the time, I didn't

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>understand the larger significance of that date, but in general,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>many of the best hunters I know will say from

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 2>October twenty fifth through about November the tenth are the

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>best days of the classic Midwestern type rut. I'm sure

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 2>you understand that peak breeding can be slightly to largely

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>different regionally, but in many places white tails live. October

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth is when it starts getting good. In October

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth, nineteen ninety eight is when deer hunting started

0:27:53.960 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 2>getting good for me. Our next storyteller is my colleague

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>meat eater Casey Smith of East Texas, CA. C. Smith

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and Tyler Jones have a YouTube channel and a podcast

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>called The Element, and I'd say these boys are pretty

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 2>radical whitetail hunters. Case likes to run and gun, and

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>this story is about a very unique ground hunt and

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the great planes that produced Casey's biggest whitetail Meet.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Casey Smith.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I have a habit of being confident, or what

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 5>some might call reckless when chasing deer round on the ground,

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 5>and that comes from a good place, I feel like.

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I always try to be a real optimistic guy,

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>and I always like to think that I have what

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 6>it takes to go out there and shoot a big buck.

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Not always the case, but I feel.

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 6>Like you just can't approach it from a position of doubt, right,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 6>it just doesn't work out, And in fact, A lot

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 6>of this comes from the fact that we us up

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 6>so much.

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 5>Tyler and I have been trying to.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 6>Shoot big deer on the ground for quite a few

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 6>years now, and at the beginning, we used to get

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 6>so hot broken because we would just fail all the time.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 6>And it got to the point where it was like, well,

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 6>we might as well go out there and chase him,

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 6>because we're gonna mess it up anyways, Let's not put

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 6>too much into it, don't overthink it, just go after him.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 6>And somehow, some way that actually produced like a level

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 6>of confidence and we started.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 5>To get a little bit better at this.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, we are up in a plain state, and I

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 6>am just having a dog of a time.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean I didn't have any place to hunt, and

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 5>the wind direction changed on me.

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 6>I couldn't hunt that property and didn't know if I

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 6>even wanted to anyways.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 5>Because I already bumped all the deer off of.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 6>It, and that was about the only piece of public

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 6>ground that I had access to in the area.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 5>So I was just kind of in a tight spot.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 6>Well, we did the thing that we always say we're

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 6>not gonna do, and we hit the phones and started

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 6>calling landowners, and sure enough, Tyler pulled one out man,

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 6>just like one of the.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 5>Best bro moves you can imagine. He called up this

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 5>guy who he'd.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 6>Had a contact with a few years back and somehow

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 6>got us some permission on an awesome piece of ground.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 6>I end up staying up practically all night long, sick,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 6>going to the bathroom multiple times, just as bad as

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 6>you can imagine, for about.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 5>Eight hours being sick. That's what I was. Well.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 6>Round about two thirty in the morning, I finally think

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 6>I had my last episode and I get to lay

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 6>down for about two hours get some rest. But I

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 6>set my alarm for four forty five or whatever it was,

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 6>because I mean, it's November seventh. I cannot miss this day.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 6>It is one of the best deer hunting days on

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 6>the calendar. Alarm goes on off, roll over, get out

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 6>of bed. Me and my buddy Greg head out that morning.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 6>We're running late, but it's better late than ever whenever

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 6>you've been sick, and it's an awesome day of hunting,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 6>and sure enough, beautiful morning, frost everywhere, super steell, just

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 6>that great crisp feeling that we all love as deer hunters.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 6>We decided to park the truck and just kind of

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 6>hike down the hill and do something I don't really

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 6>like to do very much, but I'd call it an

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 6>observation sit.

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 5>I have my bow with me, but I'm not gonna

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 5>do too much.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't think I'm just gonna try to be out there,

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 6>maybe try to kill something that night off of what

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 6>I'd learned that day, and we hike down, go to

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 6>glassing and looking around. I do have my rattling andlers

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 6>with me just in case. Sure enough, I can see

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 6>a deer about eight hundred yards away, maybe a little closer,

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, and I watch him. I'm a by nose.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 6>I can tell it's a buck. And then he's following

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 6>this fence line and he's starts to get about as

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 6>close as he's ever going to get to us. And

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 6>if he continues on, he's going to start to get

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 6>further away, about five hundred yards out.

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 5>I said, why not.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 6>I get my rattling antlers, start hitting them together as

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 6>hard as you can, and the sound carries. I see

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 6>that deer whip his head around, and at that point

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 6>in time, it's like, oh my goodness, this just went

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 6>from who knows what to like this could happen, and

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 6>sure enough that deer does a oneint eighty jumps the fence,

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 6>and at that point in time, it's full fledged hunt mode.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 6>We're en rolling terrain and this buck is coming up

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 6>trying to get the winds. That's what they do when

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 6>you rattle at him. They try to go smell and

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 6>see what's going on. See if they know those deer

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 6>just have a safe approach to the situation. So I

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 6>run down the hill about eighty ninety yards and get

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 6>set up right on the back side of this rise

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 6>so that this deer will come up and be looking

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 6>where I was, not where I am, And sure enough

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 6>I kind of can see the top of his back

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.239
<v Speaker 6>over the hill. He drops down where I can't see him,

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 6>and we just get ready to get hunkered down. I

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 6>get up on one knee, get my bow in my hand,

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 6>ready to go, and all I see is brow times

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 6>pop up over the sage. Somehow, some way, probably my

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 6>sickness helped me hold it together, because I didn't have

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 6>enough energy to be overly excited. And this deer's looking

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 6>and he's got the sun in his eyes. He can't

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 6>see us just standing there on the ball open prairie right.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 6>He takes a couple more steps forward and then kind

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 6>of locks it up and looks at us. And somehow,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 6>some way I had the boldness as that deer's looking

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 6>at me at like thirty yards at full draw, I

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 6>give him a light snort wheeze, and that's enough to

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 6>make that deer say, you know what. I don't know

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 6>what that is, but I don't like what he said

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 6>to me. He takes two steps forward. I grunt stop.

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 5>Him, squeeze my release, and Pap just ham this thing.

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 6>And I knew right away it wasn't my greatest shot,

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 6>but it was very lethal in the vitals. And we

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 6>watched that deer run out about one hundred yards, do

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 6>a semicircle.

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 5>And then lie down. And I watched him until his.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 6>Antler's laid down on the ground, and from there it

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.479
<v Speaker 6>was just pure elation. I just could not believe I'd

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 6>had the night I had, and it turned into the

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 6>day that it did. This buck is awesome. He's a

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 6>mainframe ten twenty one inches wide. I haven't measured him

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 6>out all the way though, so I don't know exactly

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 6>what he'd score, but I'd say he pushes right at

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 6>that one hundred and sixty mark and he's got split

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 6>brow time. It's just a beautiful, beautiful deer, excellent representation

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.959
<v Speaker 6>of what a mature buck looks like on a plain state.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 5>And I just could not be more thankful.

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 4>That was a good story.

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Casey way to tough it out, take a chance with

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 2>the rattling, and make the absolute most of an opportunity.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 4>That was some good hunting.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'd say out of a hundred whitetail hunters wouldn't

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>have killed that buck. The only other one that would

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>have probably would have been your buddy Tyler Jones. These

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 2>element guys have a way of doing this kind of

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff a lot. Our next story is told by a

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>man that I have known since nineteen ninety eight and

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I consider him the real deal.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 4>His name is.

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Hooch McDonald, and he's what i'd call a bonafide dog man.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>As you've heard, I love to celebrate the diversity of

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>ways in which we hunt deer in America. Hooch is

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 2>from a region of Arkansas where dog hunting is alive

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and well, he's going to spend some time telling the

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>inns and outs of running deer with dogs. Some of

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 2>it might surprise you. Here's old Hooch.

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 7>My name is James McDonald, but most folks call me hooch.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 7>I've been hooch since before I was born. They call

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 7>me hoos because of my grandpa. He passed about a

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 7>month before I was born. It's not real shit. Which

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 7>of these were the cause of me being hooch. But

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 7>he was a moonshiner for one, and hooch is a

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 7>slang for moonshine, so that's one one thought. And then

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 7>my dad wanted to call me hoot after one of

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 7>his uncles. And then they think that my grandpa just

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 7>couldn't really get hoot out and he kept saying hooch,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.919
<v Speaker 7>so when they lost him, and then I came along

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 7>right after, the name stuck. Deer hunt in the South

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 7>with dogs is a complete social event. There is no

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 7>sitting in a tree by yourself watching sign feed Paul whatever.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 7>It's buddies and lots of camaraderie, storytelling, bull crap, you know,

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 7>messing with each other. I mean, that's that's what makes

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 7>it fun. And a typical day for us we start

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 7>off a little bit before daylight. Either somebody will pick

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 7>up breakfast and bring up there, or we'll get together

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 7>early enough and we'll cook breakfast, and then about daylight

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 7>we load dogs and then we all gather around and

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 7>we decide who's turning and loose for one and where

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 7>we're going to turn loose.

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>And then the.

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:19.959
<v Speaker 7>Way we do it is we have crossings that we've

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 7>known for years. Deer tendy use the same crossings. Like

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 7>if we go into this block of woods, there's top

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 7>three escape routes, but then there's others that you know.

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes they run up to that escape route and smell somebody,

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 7>hear something, and they turn and go the other way

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 7>and shoot out one of the other side routes. So

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 7>we try to cover everything. Rarely do we cover everything well.

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 7>The dog man, whoever's turning and loose, decides where he

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 7>wants to go, and he usually ram rods the whole drive.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 7>People will speak up and say, you know, I want

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 7>this stand if nobody else does, and then once everybody

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 7>decides where they're going, he turns loose just cast the dogs.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 7>That's the way we hunt Some people down in the

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 7>sandy country, they'll put them on a track, but we

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 7>just kind of cast into the bedding areas acorn flats,

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.439
<v Speaker 7>lots of buck sign in places, you know, that's where

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 7>with hot scrapes, and then the dogs are turned loose.

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 7>Our style of dogs, for the most part, will coal trail.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, they'll start barking some when they smell something.

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 7>Once they get that deer up and running, they really

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 7>get fired up, make lots of noise, and that's when

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 7>it gets exciting. I have always had dogs with tree

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 7>blood in them, whether it be trem walker's, red bones,

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 7>blue ticks, even some English here and there. And the

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 7>reason I like that is the tree dog always runs

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 7>the track. He doesn't run the wind like some of

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 7>these running dogs will. Some of these running dogs when

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 7>they cross the road, they may be fifteen to twenty

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 7>yards down the road, down wind from where the deer.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 7>The tree dog is almost always within a few feet

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 7>of where the deer crossed.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 4>And tree dogs are always trashy.

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 7>Anyway, right, And there's something about a tree dog that

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 7>they just they just sound different. You have a oh no,

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 7>I don't have yeah, just gray dogs. We don't care

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 7>about papers. When people bring registered dogs sometimes and they

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 7>don't pan out like they're supposed to. The running joke

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 7>is he didn't want to cross because he's afraid to

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 7>get his papers whip. Once the dogs get the deer

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 7>up and they're running, they're making lots of noise. You

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 7>know they're gonna eventually I may circle some, but they're

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 7>gonna eventually kind of line out and head hopefully towards

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 7>one of our standards. So that's when that standard's life

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 7>gets exciting. You can hear the dogs getting closer and closer,

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 7>and then brush starts breaking, your heart starts pounding, Your

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 7>adrenaline is going through the roof because you don't know

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 7>if it's gonna be a yearling, a dough or a twelve.

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 7>The only thing that I have experienced that compares to

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 7>running dogs is working a turkey in the spring.

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that Stony Edwards used the exact same analogy

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 2>of spring turkey hunting. I wanted to ask Cooch about

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>a potential stereotype about running deer with dogs.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Here's what he said.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So to address the statement from a lot of

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 7>the world about dog hunters are lazy, that couldn't be

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 7>any further from the truth. Dog hunting is three hundred

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 7>and sixty five days a year, twenty four hours a day. Really,

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 7>you've always got dogs to tend to. You've got a feed, water, vaccinate,

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 7>vet bills. It's definitely not just for those six weeks

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 7>a year. There's training raising puppies because everybody, everybody in

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 7>the business, they want to raise their own dogs. Okay,

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 7>so there's so much involved in running deer with dogs,

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 7>and it's not just you go out there and turn

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 7>some dogs loose and deer run everywhere and you go

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 7>to shooting. It's not the best way to then the herd.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 7>You will kill far more deer send in a tree.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 7>It is more about the time with your buddies.

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Who's has done a good job of explaining the context

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and how to of hound hunting, and to reiterate his

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>point about it being a difficult way to hunt, not

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 2>an easy way to hunt. Let me say this, if

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I killed a big buck in front of dogs, it

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 2>would be equivalent to me as if I had killed

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it with traditional archery equipment or some other self limiting

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 2>method of hunting. To many people, the only sporting way

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to kill a deer is when it's being pursued by dogs.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Think about that for a minute.

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting perspective, and I say that only to

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>help us all, including myself, enlarge the way that we

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>view the world and take a little walk in another

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>man's shoes. I'm going to turn it back over to

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Hooch for him to tell one of his most memorable hunts.

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 2>And you're gonna hear him talk about road crossings, but

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>it's essential to know that they're running on gated private land.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:18.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 7>So one of my most memorable stories with dogs. It

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 7>takes place December third, nineteen ninety nine. It was actually

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 7>reading day when I was enrolled in Arkansas Tech. So

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 7>the friday before our final exams, well, I chose to

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.720
<v Speaker 7>go deer hunting. It was a little bit stormy that morning,

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 7>so we didn't get to We didn't get to hunt

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 7>right at daylight. Let me back up just a little bit,

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 7>because I had hunted the weekend before, and we had

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 7>made this same drive and I was standing up on

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 7>the crossing and you could see off in the draw

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 7>a little bit, and I was standing up on a

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 7>saddle on the end of the mountain and the dogs

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 7>were coming, and boy, I thought they were coming out

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 7>to me.

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 5>My heart was pounding.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 7>I could hear the brush breaking and then the brush

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 7>breaking got really loud, and then all of a sudden

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 7>it started going away. So I run over to the

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 7>edge and stand up on a stump where I could see,

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 7>and I got two or three glimpses, and all I

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 7>could see was.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 5>Antlers, Like, oh my goodness.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 7>So now back to that Friday morning, we'd decided we

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.320
<v Speaker 7>were going to make the same drive, and me, I'm

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 7>always thinking, so I watched, I had watched what he

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 7>done the weekend before. I thought, you know, I'm not

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 7>gonna stand on the road. I'm gonna get off the

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 7>road down there in the draw. So even if he

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 7>does come up and cross the road, I'll still have

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 7>a shot adding But if he doesn't, then you know

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 7>I'll get a shot at him down there. Well, I

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 7>got off down there and found me a good stump

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 7>where I could sit and see seventy five eighty yards

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 7>in any direction. And I heard him when they started

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 7>hooping and turned the dogs out. When just a little

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 7>bit the dog started trailing, and just a little bit

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 7>longer they jumped, and I could tell, you know, they

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 7>were coming my way.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 5>Well, they they.

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 7>Come up there and started up the draw I was in,

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 7>and they got almost to me. And then kind of

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 7>turn and started going away, and I thought, well, this

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.959
<v Speaker 7>is over. And then I looked down, looked down the draw,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 7>and here come a book. Okay, so I guess. I

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 7>guess he had turned a circle quite aways in front

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 7>of the dogs and then come back to me. So

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm watching. I'm just catching glimpses, and I can tell

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 7>it's it's a really good book. Well, he gets on

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 7>up there about sixty yards and I started following him

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 7>with my rifle and watched him through the scope and

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 7>he hits an opening and I squeezed the trigger and

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 7>nothing happened. I mean, he kept coming, so I squeezed

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 7>the trigger again, and then I thought he went down,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 7>but I wasn't sure. And then all of a sudden,

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 7>here comes another buck. That's a really nice book. He turns.

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know it at the time, but he watched

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 7>the buck in front of him fall, and so he

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 7>turned and started going the other way, and then there

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 7>was another buck behind him. Well, they went out the

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 7>other draw, and when they hit the other cross and

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 7>I heard my dad shoot, there was another guy standing

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 7>there with him, and I guess the third buck had

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:30.320
<v Speaker 7>ran to him and heard him shoot. After all that happened,

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 7>I went back up. I didn't I didn't even go look.

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 7>Right then I went back up the hill, got on

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 7>the radio and found out that they had killed the

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 7>two bucks over there, and I went down there.

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 5>Shoot.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 7>I got fifteen twenty yards from it, and I could

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 7>see antlet's sticking up over the grass, like, oh my goodness.

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 7>He ended up being a nine point. That gross scored

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 7>one point thirty two, which at the time was a

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 7>giant to me. And the buck my dad killed he

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 7>was low one twenties, and then the other one was

0:45:58.480 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 7>just a five point.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 5>But you know, backstraps or backstraps.

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 7>We all got together, put them all up on the

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 7>dog box, took a picture, and even the guys that

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 7>didn't pull the trigger, they've got the biggest grin because

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 7>it's not it's not I killed a deer. When it

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 7>comes round the dogs, it's we killed the deer.

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 2>That feeling of it's not I that killed the deer,

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but we killed the deer. That stuff is pretty unique

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 2>to dog hunting. I love the solo aspects of tree

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 2>stand bow hunting, but a group experience with like minded people,

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to top.

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 4>That was a great story Hooch.

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Our final storyteller is Aaron Stanfil's little brother Andy, And

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>just because he's little doesn't mean that he doesn't kill

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 2>a lot of big bucks. And I mean, and he's

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 2>just like a normal sized guy, so you know, he's

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 2>not little. And it turns out he's actually killed bigger

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 2>deer than Aaron. These guys are deer hunters. I'm telling you.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 2>This is the story of the hunt for a giant

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Kansas buck they.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Called Daddy Rabbit.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 2>I've forgiven Aaron for lying to Scott and Luke, and

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 2>so he and Andy are going to tag team on

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>this one.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>So I'm Andy Stanphil and I'm here with my brother

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Stanfhil and our cousin has family in Kansas. So

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 3>we've been going up there bow hunting for This would

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 3>have been our twenty third consecutive year. So it all

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 3>starts back in around two thousand. We slowly, you know,

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 3>started getting permissions from farmers here and there, and in

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the early two thousands we had a lot of land

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 3>that we could hunt. Well, what happened was our cousin, Jared,

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 3>his grandpa bought a farm in the fifties. It's an

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 3>old homestead place, and since then his son was living

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>there on the place. And I remember one day they

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 3>told us, said, hey, boys, if you guys will come up,

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 3>put a big spread out in the yard some spring,

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 3>we'll have the whole commune, the whole church crowd, congregation

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 3>come over there after church. So me and Adians, our

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 3>buddies gotten jered. We had much fried crappie, whild turkey,

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 3>all the desserts. I mean, we laid out a spread

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 3>now and the whole congregation showed up after church. And

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 3>next thing, you know, that next year we had a

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 3>lot of land to hunt. So it's been been good built.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's a second home to us. This particular farm,

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 3>like I said, didn't have very many trees on it really,

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 3>so Aaron hung his stand on the north end of it.

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 3>And everything that we have we share, you know. We

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 3>we put the tree stand in together, we trim and

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 3>everything out. You know, we anticipate every every stand that

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 3>we put in, we anticipate you on a big deer there.

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.839
<v Speaker 3>So we go to the north side and we put

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 3>that stand in. I go to the south end and

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 3>we hang another set over there, both of them in

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 3>big cedar trees, big bushy cedar trees. We try to

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 3>always hunt out of a cedar tree, try to always

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:58.399
<v Speaker 3>have a hole on our left side so we ain't

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 3>got to get up. Both of them were fantastic sets.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 3>So in twenty eighteen, right off the bat, I mean,

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 3>we had numerous shooters on that north end and one

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.760
<v Speaker 3>of those was a just a giant, non typical deer.

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.879
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to say, one of the biggest body deer

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 3>that we had hunting Kansas in twenty three years. So

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 3>just a giant of a deer. He was so big

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 3>that his rack, you know, it was just about thirteen

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.399
<v Speaker 3>inches wide. That he was so massive, but his rack

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:28.919
<v Speaker 3>just didn't look that big because he was such a

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 3>big buck. But lots of trash on his bases, lots

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 3>of horns everywhere. I mean, over the two years timeframe,

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 3>we you know, had hundreds of pictures of this deer

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 3>and we estimated him, you know, one seventies one eighties

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere in that ballpark November the second of twenty and eighteen,

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 3>I had the deer at thirty five steps with a

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 3>dough got behind two big hedge apple trees on me

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 3>and I couldn't get a shot at him. I tried

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 3>everything I could do to get him in there, and

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 3>he just wouldn't leave her. And he was he was

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 3>one special animal. We didn't get him killed in twenty eighteen,

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 3>and then fast forward to twenty and nineteen and you

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't draw a tag days, which was heartbreaking. I'm sure

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 3>God had a plan for that. So in October the eighteenth, nineteenth,

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 3>when we first went up yep, so he was all

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 3>over our camera, you know, he basically beds in there.

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 3>That was his betting. So the last part of the

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.919
<v Speaker 3>week we finally got our north wind and it got

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 3>really really cold. So on the morning of October the

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 3>twenty fourth, I'm laying there in bed and we're both

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>wide awake, and we both know that this is the

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 3>morning we've been waiting on. It's high pressure, he was

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 3>there the night before, he was there the night before,

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 3>and it's cold and we've got a north wind. And

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 3>even though I didn't draw a tag, I wasn't gonna

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 3>miss that week. We're always up there together, there's four

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 3>of us, and we camp all week. And I was

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.479
<v Speaker 3>up there all week just itching, you know, but just

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 3>helping everybody else and camping and so my alarm goes

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 3>off and Aaron's already awake. I was like, Aaron, you

0:50:58.400 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 3>think there's any way you can get up there with

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 3>me in that tree? Because we had a camera and

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 3>we used to film with one of our hunts, and

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 3>because we thought it was going to go down, we

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 3>talked about that for a little bit. Looking back on it,

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 3>but we probably made the right decision because we'd probably

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 3>made a lot of racket that, you know, early morning.

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 3>But so I got up super early and walked out

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 3>through this cedar thicket and as in eaters eat all

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 3>cedar thickets, it's easy to get lost. And I didn't

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 3>want to shine a flashlight. I was trying to go,

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, super quiet in there. Sure as the world

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I got turned around a little bit. I actually made

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 3>a small circle on the north side of my tree,

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 3>and I just I could not. I mean, all the

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.240
<v Speaker 3>trees looked the same. I was like, this is not happening,

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I finally got my bearings, found my tree,

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 3>and just so it started breaking daylight, I hear some

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 3>deer get up. So this dough comes in. She's a

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 3>very mature dough. I mean she was, and it's the

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 3>very same dough that all of our game camera pictures

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 3>have shown. He's always been with this dough that's you know,

0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 3>four or five, I mean, the power dough. Super rare

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 3>to see a giant white tail get with a dough

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 3>that early in the year. But he was with her

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 3>when we pulled cards. He was with her. So I

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 3>recognize her, you know, right off the bat as she's

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 3>coming in. So she walks in there, you know, twenty

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 3>yards away from me, and I don't see him, and

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 3>she keeps on walking out and she gets you know,

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 3>thirty or forty yards away from me, and I look

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 3>back and all I can see is this cedar limb

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 3>just thrashing in the woods back there, and so I

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.319
<v Speaker 3>got pretty worked up, and I knew it was him,

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 3>and he's just taking his sweet time, and he's falling

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.800
<v Speaker 3>that dough about sixty seventy yards away, and he finally

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 3>gets in there and takes the very same travel path

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 3>as what she did and gets in their broadside. You know,

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 3>I always try to compose myself, and I had plenty

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 3>of time to think about it. Dad had always told me,

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 3>you hunt hard, and when the opportunity arises, you know,

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 3>you do your part. So I pulled my bow back

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 3>and he was there broadside, and I made a really

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.360
<v Speaker 3>good shot on him, and he ran and take. He

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 3>took a little circle and it came right back underneath

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 3>my tree. Right I'm standing, and uh, he slows down

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 3>right there underneath me, and I'm just looking straight down

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 3>on him, and he's walking very very slow. He walks

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.240
<v Speaker 3>over there and it takes a little circle about fifteen

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 3>or twenty yards away from me to my left. I've

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 3>killed a lot of deer and I've never seen a

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.879
<v Speaker 3>deer do this, but he just like an old cow,

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 3>would you know. He puts his hind legs down, puts

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 3>his front elbows down just and he lays down perfect.

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't fall over. His front two hoofs are straight

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 3>on the ground when he laid down, and he just

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of leaned his head over on a cedar tree.

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 3>And I've got pictures of that. It was just like,

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just his time, and he just it

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 3>was a weird deal. Just an old majestic buck like that,

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, lived his whole life and it was just

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 3>my buck of a lifetime. And uh, I got over

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.840
<v Speaker 3>there and usually I text and call and and I didn't.

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I climbed down and I went over there, and man,

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.720
<v Speaker 3>it was emotional for me. And uh we nicknamed him Rabbit,

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 3>uh after Daddy Rabbit, after our cousin, Jared's grandpa that's

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 3>had such a big part in our lives up there.

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's his farm and he had just passed away,

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and uh see, yeah, it was an emotional deal. I

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 3>just cried, cried around a little bit and called Aaron,

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 3>called Dad and they came over and we all dragged it,

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 3>dragged it out together. And it's just a special moment

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:26.799
<v Speaker 3>for all of us, you know, And that's just what

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 3>it's all about. I mean, and we've done that numerous times,

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, on smaller deer, you know, if you're all

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 3>there together, and that's what's all about. And man, I couldn't.

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't drew it up any better. So we got

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.400
<v Speaker 3>back to the cabin. He's like, man, what's this thing score?

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 3>And we started putting the tape together. And we'd bought

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 3>one of those new at Walmart. They saw those little

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 3>orange tapes. Trophy take, trophy take. You kind of rip

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 3>it there and you rip it off. What's all we

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 3>had and we'd never used it before. So we start.

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 3>We started taping this deer. I did I'm going to

0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 3>did it. I tape you know here and there. When

0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 3>we ran out of tape, tape just went to two

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>hundred inches, we ran out, it ran out getting the spread,

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 3>so ended up being of course, I had to officially

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 3>score and ended up being two of three and six eighths.

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Killing a two hundred inch dear is an experience. The

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>vast majority of whitetail hunters will never experience the history

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that they had with this buck, and the fact that

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Andy's brother and father were able to be there was

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 2>unique and unforgettable.

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:39.960
<v Speaker 4>That was a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>This brings to conclusion our Dear Stories episodes this fall,

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and I already miss them. I'm gonna miss talking to

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>all these folks until next year. I really hope that

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you have a great fall and make some great memories

0:55:57.280 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 2>in this ephemeral window of time when we chase whitetail bucks.

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Really, I wish you the.

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<v Speaker 2>Best of luck this fall, and I can't thank you

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 2>enough for listening to Bear Grease. Please leave us a

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:14.600
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<v Speaker 2>Talking with everyone on the Render next week, and now

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it's time to go kill a big buck.