1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly Fry and 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: Wilson. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: And we talked about Wanda Gog all week. Yeah. You 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: know what we did not talk about Regarding Wanda gog 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: A lot of her friends kind of talk trash about her. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh really, They were like, she was really selfish and 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of hard to be around. And I'm like, oh, 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: that would explain why there aren't a lot of friends 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: in her picture a lot of the time. Yeah, although 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: her siblings remained very close to her. Her her youngest sibling, Flavia, 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with Wanda throughout her life, 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: often staying at her house, and her other siblings would 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: often stay there as well. I have questions. 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Yes, So, based on her life story, it seems like 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: from a really early age she was trying so hard 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: to financially hold her family together. 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: So the characterization of her is selfish. Like, I get it. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: I get how a person can be in a friend 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: context coming off as selfish or maybe self centered, right, 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: But it's and I it's in some ways seems at 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: odds with this idea of like having really tried from 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: her teens to try to keep the family afloat. But 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: also part of me is like I feel like if 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: I were in that situation, and I were from my 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: teenage years meticulously tracking my money to try to keep 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: my family fed, I might as an adult be a 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: little selfish. Yeah, I would be self indulgent as hell. 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of it probably is actually 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: that she lived for no one else but Wanda Dog, 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like her desires were 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: her primary priority, which I think is fine and great. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Like she didn't do a lot of like well, would 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: so and so be unhappy if I do? It'd be like, 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do, this is what 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to do. And I think on top of that, 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the fact that she was pretty conceited about her artistic 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: talent probably rubbed people the wrong way, but they just 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: put it that way, so instead they said she was selfish, 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Because that would be 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: like admitting that they didn't they weren't on even footing 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: in terms of art career. There's a fun factoid that 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I saw on a video that is on the website 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: for the Wandagogue house, and it is a weird numerology thing, 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: but it's fascinating. It is the importance or the constant 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: recurrence of the number seven in her father and mother's lives. 49 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: The house was originally painted with seven different colors when 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: he built it would when he only had the one child, 51 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: not seven. It has seven different window shapes, it has 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: seven rooms, and then they had seven children, and then 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: both Anton and Lissie died when they were forty nine 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: years old, which is seven squared. It's just weird. I 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: don't think it means anything. I don't I'm just saying 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I love it. But speaking of her parents, 57 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: there's a thing we mentioned that Wanda was perceived by 58 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: her friends as being kind of Victorian in her social values. 59 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: And one thing we didn't talk about in the show, 60 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: and in part because I feel like it's a thing 61 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: that's a little hard to pick apart, is that I 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: think she had some early experiences with people drinking that 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: she did not like. Okay, apparently after her father died. 64 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about how the kids are all 65 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: doing all the work to support the family, and her 66 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: mom really wasn't and she was physically ill, but it 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: seems like also she may have had a problem with 68 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: alcohol misuse at the end of her life, because she 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: had been prescribed by a doctor at some point to 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: drink beer to help calm her nerves, and it seems 71 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: like that escalated. And so I feel like Wanda would 72 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: never speak ill of her mother, but it seems like 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: that impacted her perception of drinking and alcohol use and 74 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: she didn't want any part of it. And one of 75 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: the reasons that she and Earl, one of the reasons 76 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: she wanted to move from a house they had been 77 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: in in the country for several years, was that they 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: had a neighbor that would come over and drink with Earl, 79 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: and she didn't like him drinking either, and that was 80 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: part of what precipitated her being like, we should move, 81 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: which is just interesting. I don't think she ever I 82 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: read her younger year diaries, and I read a lot 83 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: of her other writing, but I never saw, and it 84 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: could be in there somewhere anything that specifically said like, hey, 85 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: I saw people drinking and that was horrible and I 86 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: didn't like it. So I didn't want any part of it. 87 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: But she never was a drinker at all, Like I 88 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: think she just associated it with not good things and painfulness, 89 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting. She also there are a 90 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: couple of things about her personal health that I did 91 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: not include. She did, at least one time in her 92 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: life terminate a pregnancy, which is pretty open about in 93 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: her diary. She also had a lot of issues with 94 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: her period throughout her life, which was another thing that 95 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: she would try to describe to doctors and they would 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: be like, you need rest. But they were bad enough 97 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: that when she would get her period, it would be 98 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: extremely painful for several days, and it was bad enough 99 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: that she had to structure her life around like I 100 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: need to have those days off because I can't do 101 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: anything right. Like she was basically bedridden because it was 102 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: so painful it was hard to move. But I will 103 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: say that she called her period by a funny name, 104 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: much like vacation is a funny name for open relationship. Okay, 105 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: she called her period hallelujah. Okay, I don't know if 106 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: that's something she started calling it. Yeah, because she was 107 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: having some sexual alliances. Okay. I can't imagine another reason 108 00:06:37,880 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: you would know it that, especially if but pain right, Yeah. 109 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: We have made some progress as a society in terms 110 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: of women's health. Yeah, but like, as an example sample, 111 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: my mom has a progressive neurological disorder that she spent 112 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: so many years going to doctors and specialists and having 113 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: them tell her it was just stress. 114 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. 115 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: Her neurons are being actively damaged in her body. 116 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, that happens a lot. I mean, I am 117 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: not to be too overshary about personal stuff, but right, 118 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: you remember, at the beginning of last year, I was 119 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: having don't anybody be scared, I'm fine. I was having 120 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: chest pain, which my doctor kept telling me was because 121 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: I was eating spicy food, even though I was like 122 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how to eat spicy food. I could. 123 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I will eat all the butter, but I can't really 124 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: do spices. I can never tolerate them. I don't know 125 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: what's going on. And it turned out that I had 126 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: like a big old gallstone launched in the duct between 127 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: my gallbladder and my stomach, and like for it was like, 128 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, you're just I think it's spicy food and 129 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: stress and you're not drinking too much coffee and not 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: taking care of yourself. And like there was a week 131 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: where I wasn't allowed to eat because we were trying 132 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: to like get all of the stuff out of my system, 133 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: and it was like it didn't get any better. Yeah, 134 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: until I was in the er and they were like, 135 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: oh girl, that's not what's up right, right. 136 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: I remember the extended misery of like trying to avoid 137 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: coffee during all of that, and then you had your 138 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: gallbladder out and it was like everything result, everything was 139 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: fine instantly, fine felt great after that. 140 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It's kind of funny. We're not there yet, 141 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: and I'm sure some of it is just right, like some. 142 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: Of it's the system and it applies to everyone, but 143 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: there are disproportionate things that affect everyone who's not a man. 144 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I feel like too a lot of 145 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the times, because menopause has not been studied all that much, 146 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: right compared to other things. It's not to say that 147 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: there haven't been any, but when you say something sometimes 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: they'll just be like, oh, that's probably menopause, or I 149 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe is this menopause. I don't know, maybe, 150 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: and so it can get really frustrating. So it doesn't 151 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: surprise me that she was going to doctors and going 152 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm starting menopause. I think it's giving me problems, 153 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: and they were like, probably not something in my chest hurt. 154 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Since she was like, they were like, you need to 155 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: lie down. Yeah. Yeah. 156 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: I've had multiple conversations with people in my friend group 157 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: about perimenopause specifically and how everything we know about it 158 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: we have learned from each other and not from doctors. Yeah, 159 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: and you'll go to the doctor and have like the 160 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: similar situation of like, I'm having these things happen and 161 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, maybe maybe maybe you know, I feel 162 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: like I have a doctor that does listen to me 163 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: and does like and we'll order tests to try, but 164 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: it still is like we don't really for sure know 165 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: why this is happening. All of the tests are normal, 166 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: maybe perimenopause maybe. 167 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say this is like my moment 168 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: to do a little PSA. I know that healthcare is 169 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: not available to everyone, but if you can, and if 170 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: you have access, and if you are able to, please 171 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: get all of your baseline screenings done as often as 172 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: you possibly can on your yearly or whatever schedule, because 173 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: it's when you have that in place it's easier to 174 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: see the variations that indicate something else is wrong. Yeah, 175 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I know it sucks, but please do it and take 176 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: care of yourself because you're the only one we have. 177 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: And I will also add to this that, like, I know, 178 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: it can be really hard for a number of reasons 179 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: to stay on top of the things that your doctor 180 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: has asked you to do. But for example, I would 181 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: not know that I needed an increase in my blood 182 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: pressure medicine had I not been trying to take my 183 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: blood pressure at home three times times a week, like 184 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: my doctor asked. 185 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that stuff is really important, especially as 186 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: you kind of hit our age, you know, as the 187 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: world becomes progressively more chaotic, and possibly the increased stress 188 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: in your life is making your blood pressure significantly higher. Yeah. Yeah. 189 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: We mentioned in the course of the episode, when Earle 190 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: and her brother decided not to tell her she had 191 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: advanced stage cancer, that it was not entirely unheard of 192 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: for that to be the case, even though she and 193 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: her diary is like they're giving me X ray therapy. 194 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is cancer not uncommon. Hard to 195 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: hear that, you know, in our age where we are 196 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: a little more aware of conscious of often discussing the 197 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: ideas of bodily autonomy, and it's easy to want to 198 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: condemn that choice, But I don't think that didn't feel 199 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: especially out of hand given time and place, right, right, 200 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: and because Earle was obviously really devoted to her at 201 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: the end of her life, you know, he did basically 202 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: put aside everything he had going on to take care 203 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: of her. Yeah. Yeah, so, but it's also weird. 204 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the time these episodes come out, we will 205 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: have had a Saturday Classic about George Wallace, who we 206 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: have a similar story in that episode regarding his wife 207 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: and a cancer diagnosis that she wasn't informed of. It 208 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: is by coincidence that that is how this is lining up. Yeah, 209 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I also was thinking of 210 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: in the recent Vonnegut episode, we mentioned that when his 211 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: sister was very ill in the hospital with cancer, they 212 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to tell her that her husband had died, right, 213 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: which you know, she found out by accident and it 214 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: was horrible. 215 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: And I don't, I don't know. That's a hard choice 216 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: to make, and I don't I don't want to dog 217 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: anybody as stealing someone's autonomy when I know in these 218 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: cases it's not like they're hiding something from someone to 219 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: try to do something devious. They're trying not to hurt 220 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: them worse. But I don't I'm not equipped to make 221 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: those decisions for other people, So I don't know. But 222 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I did think it would be a little more joyous 223 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: to end this one by talking about what Wanda Gog 224 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: throughout her life listed as her three passions, and they were, obviously, 225 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: unsurprisingly to anyone. Art yep, sex yep, and growing things. Okay, 226 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: she loved gardens. 227 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: I love that. 228 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I find it funny that she thought the books 229 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: that made her most famous were kind of like, I'm 230 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: just doing this, I have money to make art. That 231 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of tickles me a little bit. I love it. 232 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: I kind of love her. She's she's wild. I can't 233 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: imagine being as confident as her now. She just had 234 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: no hesitation about how great she thought she was, which 235 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: is wonderful but not something I can identify with. So, oh, Wanda, 236 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: please give us strength and these times going forward. If 237 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: this is your weekend coming up, I hope that you 238 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: can invoke a little bit about of that Wanda Gog 239 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: spirit and advocate for yourself and be confident in yourself 240 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: and know that you are very good at some stuff 241 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: in your life, and that you know you should. You 242 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: should be able to make your own decisions and follow 243 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: follow your your own conscience as to what is best. 244 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: I also hope everything goes smoothly for you and that 245 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: people are nice to you, and that you are nice 246 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: to people in return. We got to take care of 247 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: our and each other. If you have medical things and 248 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: you can get them screened, please get them screened. Do 249 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: it for me, Tell your doctor, Holly said. So we 250 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: will be right back here tomorrow with a classic episode 251 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: and then on Monday with something brand new. 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