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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radiodo.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frowner. We are

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Speaker 2: coming to live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Will take you up to three am Pacific,

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Speaker 2: six am Eastern, absolute jam packed show tonight, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to get to it all. A lot to say

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Speaker 2: about Aaron Rodgers, a lot to say about Tom Thibodeau.

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Speaker 2: We've got Mark Medina in about twenty minutes in a

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Speaker 2: fresh edition of brand newfool What my Name. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: cover it all, and we start with this nugget of wisdom.

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Speaker 2: Redemption is good for the soul. Hold that thought, Hold

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Speaker 2: that thought. You know. I'm a simple guy. I try

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Speaker 2: to live by simple rules. Two of them. I try

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Speaker 2: to avoid drive throughs like the plague. Try to avoid

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Speaker 2: ATM machines like the plague. Every time I go through

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Speaker 2: a drive through, all I want to do is get

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Speaker 2: my happy meal. Beyond my way. I'm always stuck behind

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Speaker 2: somebody who's order gonna fit, you know, food for the

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Speaker 2: fifth fleet. Every time I go to an ATM machine,

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Speaker 2: just want to get my two hundred bucks get the

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Speaker 2: hell out of there. Sure enough, I'm behind somebody trying

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Speaker 3: But I digress.

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Speaker 2: Wonder rule I don't break is when I get something

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Speaker 2: in my mind, I don't second guess myself. Redemption is

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Speaker 2: good for the soul. Enter Rick Carlyle. Now, before I

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Speaker 2: get to reiterating why I believe Indiana will win this series.

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Speaker 2: And I said it two weeks ago, and I said

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Speaker 2: it before that, that they would beat the Knicks. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of history with at Carlisle.

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Speaker 2: I covered him when he was coaching the Pistons and

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Speaker 2: three and o four, Uh, and check that two and three.

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Speaker 2: It was unceremoniously fired area Larry Brown took over November nineteen,

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Speaker 2: two thousand, before the Malice at the Palace. I was

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Speaker 2: there twenty years ago. See, that was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: Rick Carlile's ride to glory in leading a very good

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Speaker 2: NBA team, a very good Indiana team, to the NBA

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Speaker 2: title the Circle of Life. And I talked to Jeremy

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Speaker 2: shap about this unreal twenty years later to the month,

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Speaker 2: here we are with the Pacers, the Pacers possibly providing

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Speaker 2: the redemption for Rick Carlile it frankly he deserves because

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really realizes what a great coach

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Speaker 2: this guy is. There's a reason that the Indiana Pacers

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Speaker 2: have added new dimension to the over phrased, used, overused phrase.

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Speaker 3: Try that out in English.

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Speaker 2: Come back kids, The Pacers won't die. The Knicks tried

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Speaker 2: to warn you, the CAFs tried to warn you, the

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Speaker 2: Bucks warned you, and now the Thunder have learned their

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Speaker 2: lesson after Game one. Game one was the.

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Speaker 3: Pacers' fifth comeback victory.

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Speaker 2: From a deficit of fifteen or more in the twenty

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Speaker 2: five NBA Playoffs, the most by a team in a

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Speaker 2: single postseason in twenty eight years. The Thunder led one

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Speaker 2: toweight ninety nine with about two to fifty remaining in

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Speaker 2: the game, but yet they made just one basket the

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Speaker 2: rest of the game, as the Pacers made play after

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Speaker 2: play after play, and when they went up one ten

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Speaker 2: time they led, and they forced MVP Shay Gilgis into

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Speaker 2: a miss with eleven seconds remaining, Aaron Nesmith grabs the

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Speaker 2: rebound and gave the ball to Tyrese Halliburton setting up

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Speaker 2: the winning shot. It was the fourth time in the

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Speaker 2: playoffs at Haliburton made a shot that one or sent

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Speaker 2: it game to overtime. Like Yogi Berry said, it ain't

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Speaker 2: over until it's over. But neatly buried in that final

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Speaker 2: eleven seconds was after Nesmith rebounded Shay Gilgis miss. Did

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Speaker 2: you notice Rick Carlon Lyle didn't call a timeout? I

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Speaker 2: guarantee you you line up fifty coaches. Forty nine would

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Speaker 2: have called the time out to drop a play that

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Speaker 2: would have been obvious. They would have risked an inbound

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Speaker 2: So given the experience, the savvy, the brain power knowledge

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Speaker 2: that Rick Carlisle has in the heat of battle, when

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Speaker 2: the heat gets hot and it's hard to breathe, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the basketball game becomes a fist

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Speaker 2: fight in the phone booth and quantum physics takes over.

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Speaker 2: And don't tell me you didn't see it on the

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Speaker 2: faces of the OKC thunder with a couple of minutes

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Speaker 2: to go, especially Chad Logren No, Rick Carlisle in the

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Speaker 2: heat of battle, had been there. Let's keep it moving.

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Speaker 2: I've got trust in my team. I've got trust in

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Speaker 2: Tyree Halliburton. And yes, Carlile's faith was rewarded once again.

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Speaker 2: Tyree Halliburton thrives under pressure, understood the urgency, kept okase

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Speaker 2: scrambling defense. See because by calling time out that would

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Speaker 2: have allowed the Thunder to regroup and put a defense together.

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Speaker 2: And the Kalmas coach and the Commas player on the floor, well,

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Speaker 2: the decision led to pulling up for a go ahead bucket.

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Speaker 2: By the way, he wasn't even double teamed Cason Wallace

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Speaker 2: was alone helplessly on an island. Carlile simply said after

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Speaker 2: the game, well, we have a lot of experience in

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Speaker 2: these types of games. Carlisle does, he won a championship.

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Speaker 2: He did win a championship. He said, We just tried

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Speaker 2: to get the ball into his hands as much as

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Speaker 2: possible in those situations. I think Phil Jackson once said

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Speaker 2: that about a guy named Michael Jeffrey Jordan. As for

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Speaker 2: the shot itself, what else is there to say? This

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Speaker 2: dude is got it going.

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Speaker 3: It's his time.

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton, I can't wait for the game Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: and yes they're eleven point underdogs again and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that later, but another two away. Really the Pacers,

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Speaker 2: they had the game slipping away from them from the

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Speaker 2: managed to look like okay, see, even though they led

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Speaker 2: the entire way, look like they never really had control

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Speaker 2: of it. It's easy to say in retrospect now, this

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Speaker 2: is not revisionist history. This is what was happening. But

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Speaker 2: the group think echo chamber narrative working over time like

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Speaker 2: it always he always does, had everyone believing this series

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Speaker 2: was over. This was a historically great team. How yeah,

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Speaker 2: they won sixty eight games. They never want anything. Yet,

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Speaker 2: how what are we doing here? Well, what OKAYC did

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Speaker 2: in the first half was pounced whenever a Pacer tried

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Speaker 2: to dribble the balls. What they did all year. They'd

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Speaker 2: send defenders in from the blindside to poke it loose.

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Speaker 2: They cut off passing lanes. Lou dort an outstanding game

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Speaker 2: turned into nineteen first half turnovers. Maybe the biggest surprise

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Speaker 2: wasn't Halliburton hitting the game winner. Maybe it was the

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Speaker 2: Pacers eventually cleaning up their mistakes and doing it relatively

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Speaker 2: quickly when they really needed to. If they hadn't, the

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Speaker 2: game would have drifted away and they wouldn't have come back.

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Speaker 2: And so this is a team, the Pacers who actually

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Speaker 2: protected the ball all season, averaging just thirteen turnovers a game. Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what, they only had three in the third quarter

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Speaker 2: and the game started to tilt back. Oka see did

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Speaker 2: lead by fifteen. Of course, ironically that was in the

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Speaker 2: third quarter of Jalen Williams stole an Invaluve pass and dunked,

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Speaker 2: and Halliburton says, look, when you get to fifteen, you

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Speaker 2: can panter, you can talk talk about how we get

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Speaker 2: to ten and how do we get to five? And

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Speaker 2: you know what happened. Give it up to Shake Gilgis

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Speaker 2: for forty seven minutes and fifty seconds. Typical Shake Gilger's game.

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Speaker 2: He dropped buckets. The Pacers could not disrupt his flow,

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Speaker 2: but eventually, when they needed to, when it mattered most,

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Speaker 2: they did. Then things got real interesting. About twenty two

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Speaker 2: seconds left in the game, Pascal Siakam he failed to

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Speaker 2: retrieve that loose ball, and Okasee had fourteen seconds left

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Speaker 2: on the shot clock. So Shay gilgis, Well, he couldn't

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Speaker 2: just simply run the clock out. Still, this was a

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Speaker 2: shot Shay has made a million times, one that earned

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Speaker 2: him the MVP Award, but it fell short. You're not

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Speaker 2: gonna hear me knock Shay Gilgess. He did enough to

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Speaker 2: help his team win that game that night. Had he

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Speaker 2: made that shot, that would have put them up by three.

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Speaker 2: And I think Tyrese Halliburton would have had the presence

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Speaker 2: launch a shot. We'll never know whatuld happened, because it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's an imponderable basketball's a games are runs,

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Speaker 2: by the way. Give it up to Obi Toppin. When

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Speaker 2: the Pacers got into trouble early in the game and

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Speaker 2: they were looking around for some sort of comfort, instability,

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Speaker 2: at least temporarily, they found it from a guy, Obi

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Speaker 2: topping who Rick Carlisle has managed to resurrect. This guy

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Speaker 2: was a bench player dumped by his previous team for

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Speaker 2: two second round picks. Hell, even Brownie James was drafted

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Speaker 2: in the first round. Now, I'm sure wherever the Knicks

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Speaker 2: well you know, I'm sure they feel some relief maybe.

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Speaker 2: As for Obi Topping, he's playing for a championship. He

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Speaker 2: even said it after the game. I'm telling you, this

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Speaker 2: team's feeling it. I've worked my whole life to be

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Speaker 2: in the position I'm in now. He said, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: he made a pair of free throws in the fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter of the comeback really turned serious. In all, Obi

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Speaker 2: Topping seventeen points, five of eight on three pointers, five rebounds,

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Speaker 2: thing here, and I'm not going to pin this on OKC,

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Speaker 2: but you can, for game one, for all of their efficiency,

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Speaker 2: for all their ability to blow teams out, for all

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Speaker 2: of their dominance against particularly the East, the Thunder occasionally

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Speaker 2: dealt with a little issue, a little bugabooll that actually

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Speaker 2: happened during the regular season, but you don't notice it

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Speaker 2: when you only lose fourteen games. They lost fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: leads many times. Perhaps it was an annoyance. Perhaps it

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Speaker 2: was let's not worry about it. We dealt with it

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Speaker 2: in the regular season. If it happens in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: But when the thunder closed down strongly in Game seven

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Speaker 2: and no one brought it up again, well not quite again.

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Speaker 2: The defense forced nineteen turnovers in the first half. Even

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Speaker 2: Alex Caruso said it. We played good enough to win.

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Speaker 2: We just didn't finish the game. When you're not used

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Speaker 2: to having to have to do that, and you're playing

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Speaker 2: against the team and that's where they live. Enter the

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Speaker 2: aforementioned Rick Carlisle and the Indiana Pacers. Well this is

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Speaker 2: what you get. We've got ourselves a series. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what happens Sunday night, but I do think it'll

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Speaker 2: be hard fought. I do think it will be swings.

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Speaker 2: I do think you'll get Max effort out. Okay, see,

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Speaker 2: but remember the Pacers have Rick Carlile. I know a

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Speaker 2: thing or two about Rick Carlisle. And remember this redemption

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Speaker 2: is good for the soul. Imagine returning to the scene

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Speaker 2: of the crime twenty years later and bringing a championship

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Speaker 2: that was supposed to happen No. Four to oh five,

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Speaker 2: Now it might happen in twenty four to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: This time, there is no mouth of the palace would

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Speaker 2: sing a song, said Indiana wants me. I can't, but

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Speaker 2: I can't go back there. Don't tell that to Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 2: So much stuff to talk about in the world of

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Speaker 2: the NBA three simple words. It's that time, Madina Magic Mark,

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Speaker 2: Madina our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru. You hear all

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Speaker 2: fifty two weeks out of the year. Well, Mark, I

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Speaker 3: Well, we have so many.

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Speaker 2: I just hope to get to them all, and I

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Speaker 2: I definitely want to start with Tom Thibodeau, Mark, because

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Speaker 2: fire Tom Thibodeau with three years and thirty million on

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Speaker 2: losing the conference finals. I'm not buying that you fire

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Speaker 5: I don't think a decision was made in so in fairness,

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Speaker 5: they certainly thought about it. I think it's one of

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Speaker 5: because Jalen Brunson was very pro Tom Thibodeau. I think

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Speaker 5: But you know, I would argue that for whatever shortcomings

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Speaker 2: What's interesting is you, in a sense made a case

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Speaker 2: I can accept that, but Mikal Bridges openly complained about

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you I hate the term hot take,

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Speaker 5: I know that next. Certainly want Jason Kidd to be

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Speaker 5: their next head coach. I don't know about that, to

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Speaker 5: be honest, Bernie, because first they have to get permission

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Speaker 5: sure they'll certainly make that effort. But the Mavericks have

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Speaker 5: to trade this. It's going to go to drafting Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 5: So I could understand maybe Jason Kidd having interest if

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Speaker 5: I think Cooper Flag changes all this. You know, if

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Speaker 5: future is bright assuming they whether they make a major

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'm hearing that.

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Speaker 2: The Luka Doncic decision changed the dynamic between Jason Kidd

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Speaker 2: I think we'd love a chance. Well I don't know

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Speaker 2: just to thought. You know, I said, lot, it was

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Speaker 3: Know, forget.

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Speaker 2: I mean, i mean, come on, people are mentioning Rick Patino,

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Speaker 3: I'm just thrown it out there.

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Speaker 5: I think that Michael Malone, that's his name out I mean,

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Speaker 2: Why would you why would you hear that guy?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, exactly. He Look he's a very good head

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Speaker 2: I mean forces for courses and this is the wrong course.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he you know, he got fired from Denver

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Speaker 5: Jason Kidd, what you said is all true dynamic change.

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Speaker 5: After the Luka Dog trade, I thought it was telling

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Speaker 5: And he was saying that as like a cool trivia question.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the aftermathic trade does not sit well

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Speaker 5: two thousand and four. All that's true, but again, getting

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Speaker 5: to change everything. Now they say the Mavericks stumble the

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Speaker 5: it could change, but no one. I've talked to some

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Speaker 5: one's thinking that Nico Harrison's going to do that. They

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Speaker 5: you know, I know that he got a lot of

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Speaker 5: going to trade the number one pick here because there's

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Speaker 2: There's no way, there's no way that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't even waste any time on that. Last thought

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Speaker 5: You can you got to yeah, and you know what,

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Speaker 5: like that can very well change things. I'm sure the

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Speaker 5: Knicks are very interested in Giannis on Stacompo. I know

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Speaker 5: I'm Milwaukee Bucks, like what am I interested in the

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Speaker 5: Knicks for if it's not Jalen Brunton and Bruns is

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Speaker 5: not going anywhere. But the Knicks only have three first

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Speaker 5: Michale Burgers. I think they need more than that to

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Speaker 5: get Yannis, And obviously you would include Karlmpine Downtowns as

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Speaker 5: part of that trade package, and that's all fair game.

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Speaker 5: I think his strength out weigh his weaknesses as far

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Speaker 5: not taking that too. So yeah, I know the next

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Speaker 5: don't see Yannis going to the next right and we

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Speaker 2: I don't think Malone will or Jay Wright, So you know,

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Speaker 2: I see that to the truth. But you know, Taylor Jenkins,

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Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think there's someone like you know,

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Speaker 2: Do you again.

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Speaker 5: But again, like they're litmus test is they have to

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Speaker 5: at least get to the NBA Finals contend for a championship.

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Speaker 5: There's no head coach that's available that will get them there.

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Speaker 5: They should have just kept Thibodeau and improved around the

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Speaker 5: The Sixers have a lot of issues with their injuries.

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Speaker 5: You know, really, it's the Cleveland Cavaliers are the Knicks.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I know it's fashionable to blame

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to exit out Johnny Bryant.

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Speaker 2: He was a Thibodeau's associate head coach before he left

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Speaker 2: really hire a guy who's going to have to learn

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, that's this isn't It's not just okay,

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Speaker 5: this is the Knicks. It's just that their criteria they

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Speaker 5: You know, I would say, even in fairness to meta,

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Speaker 5: he's not a candidate, but you know, the idea he

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Speaker 5: could be on someone's staff as an assistant coach, player

429
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Speaker 5: development coach. Even that's tough because again, their criteria is

430
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Speaker 5: so high and so unrealistic. I get it. It's the Knicks.

431
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Speaker 5: It's similar to the Lakers, but there has to be

432
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Speaker 5: a realistic criteria here for them to succeed. And I

433
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Speaker 5: fear that even though their front office has moved in

434
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Speaker 5: the right direction with getting good voices, Leon Rose Gers

435
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Speaker 5: Rosas Rosas is now there, here's the Minnesota Timberwolves. I

436
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Speaker 5: fear that James Dolan is now you know, at the

437
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Speaker 5: steering wheel, and we've known what's happened historically when he's

438
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Speaker 5: done that. It's just led to them being a punchline.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Mark Medina Adina Magic every Saturday n of

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frado Show, Yeah, well, we didn't even talk

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Speaker 2: about dealing with the media.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And so that's another reason I think I think Jason

444
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Speaker 2: Kid could handle it.

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Speaker 5: And that'dia to be clear. He can handle it. He's

446
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Speaker 5: a great head coach. I just don't see compared to

447
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Speaker 5: where he's at now, for all the dysfunction Dallas went through,

448
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Speaker 5: you're going to coach Cooper Flag like this is a

449
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Speaker 5: generational talent here. I just don't see him leave it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Luca was a generational talent too, and I love

451
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Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, but he's got to play a game in

452
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Speaker 2: the NBA. Yeah, you know, speaking of that, Zach Edy,

453
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Speaker 2: how do you sprain an ankle? The regular season is

454
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Speaker 2: four and a half months away, and yet you may

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Speaker 2: not be ready for the opening week.

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Speaker 3: What am I missing on, Zach Edy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the side myself too. I mean, it's an

458
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Speaker 5: ankle sprain, So I get. I get obviously you're going

459
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Speaker 5: to spend your summer trying to rehab. You know, it

460
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Speaker 5: doesn't help that he's gonna have surgery to have it.

461
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Speaker 5: But I don't get that how this ultimately signs the

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Speaker 5: lines here from the beginning of the season. Now, what's clear,

463
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Speaker 5: it's to be clear here. This isn't the season ending Andrew,

464
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Speaker 5: but the fact that he's going to miss the beginning

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Speaker 5: this season. It's confound in to say.

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Speaker 2: The least, it is before I get to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: I really can't wait for Game two KD. You know,

468
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Speaker 2: he's still a pretty big headline even during the NBA

469
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Speaker 2: is where does he end up next year?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's unpopular. I think he ends up with

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Speaker 5: Miami Heat. I mean, it seems unrealistic. But here's why

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Speaker 5: I think it's more realistic than the other options. He's

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Speaker 5: not going to the Knicks for the same convo that

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Speaker 5: we talked about with Giannis. I don't think he's going

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Speaker 5: to go to the Houston Rockets. I think the Rockets,

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Speaker 5: even though they like Kevin Durant, they don't want to

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Speaker 5: give up the farm to get him. The same thing

478
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Speaker 5: with the San Antonio Spurs. And so I think what

479
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Speaker 5: we a see Kevin Durant went healthy on the court.

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Speaker 5: He's still one of the best scorers in the game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he is so efficient. The only problem is

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Speaker 5: there's two things. He's had a lot of injuries ever

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Speaker 5: since his achilles in twenty nineteen. And he makes a

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Speaker 5: lot of money and he deserves every penny of it.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes to just salary cap and roster construction,

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Speaker 5: teams are having to give up a lot here and

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Speaker 5: so where does Miami entered the picture. Even though their

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Speaker 5: litmus tests has always been they want to keep their depth,

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Speaker 5: they still want to be playoff team. I want to

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Speaker 5: be surprised if they move their parameters a little bit

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Speaker 5: because of the fact that they got swept in the

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Speaker 5: first round in Cleveland. So that's not to say they're

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Speaker 5: going to trade bam Adebio Tyler Hero. I think that

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Speaker 5: there will still be with the Heat, but you know,

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Speaker 5: you package players like Andrew Wiggins, Ima Hawkins, Junior Duncan Robinson.

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Speaker 5: I think a first round pick they still have. It's

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Speaker 5: not great, but frankly, the Suns are in a position

498
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Speaker 5: of weakness here because they know that it's not sustainable

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Speaker 5: for them to keep Kevin Durant. They flamed out or

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Speaker 5: early these last two seasons ever since they got him,

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Speaker 5: and I think that's, frankly, the best offer that the

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Speaker 5: Sons are going to get. So it doesn't sound like

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Speaker 5: a great deal on paper, but I think he winds

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Speaker 5: up with Miami Heat.

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Speaker 2: Ever so quickly, A Buck cheddar on Twitter just tweeted

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Speaker 2: at us and said, Giannis isn't going anywhere. Is that

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Speaker 2: in the mix?

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Speaker 5: Do you think as far as him.

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Speaker 2: Said, he didn't think Yi is going anywhere. He's staying

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Speaker 2: with the Bucks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, in fairness, he hasn't asked Milwaukee to trade him.

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Speaker 5: I think, knowing how the Bucks operate, they want to

514
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Speaker 5: proceed until they do. But I think what's going to

515
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Speaker 5: happen here is that Giannis is going to connect the

516
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Speaker 5: dots here, even with the Eastern Conference landscape being what

517
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Speaker 5: it is, they've lost the first round three consecutive years.

518
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of injury questions about Damian Lowerd next season.

519
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 5: You know, even if you improve on the margins, doesn't

520
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Speaker 5: do it much. And there's nothing negative about Giannis's game

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Speaker 5: where he's at in his career. Same with the same

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Speaker 5: to him. With the Bucks. They've been very aggressive in

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Speaker 5: trying to make you know, win now moves to surround

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Speaker 5: them with the best talent around him. It just hasn't worked.

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Speaker 5: Saying they're just both parties are going to come to

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Speaker 5: the conclusion, you know what, it's been a great run,

527
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Speaker 5: but we're better off making a very tough but necessary decision.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think he's with the Bucks next season.

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Speaker 5: But where he ends up, I don't think it's New York.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure where he's going to go. The only

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Speaker 5: thing I do know, he's not going to be from

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Speaker 5: the Walking next season.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, I'm in agreement.

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Speaker 2: Shutter does not agree with us though, but no, he is,

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Speaker 2: as I've always said, the most boring conversations when everyone agrees.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, onward and up. In the two

537
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: couple of minutes we got remaining, I want to dive

538
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: into the NBA Finals before I do there was a minor,

539
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Speaker 2: minor tempest in a teapot because there were no the

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Speaker 2: television did not broadcast the national anthem, nor did you

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Speaker 2: see the starting lines and all the pomp and circumstance.

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Speaker 2: Was that attentional? Obviously must have been your thoughts. Is

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Speaker 2: the NBA going to do that every game? And what

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Speaker 2: was he thinking?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they had the national anthem play before the game.

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Speaker 5: Now as far as why was a televised I don't

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Speaker 5: know this. It's just knowing how TV operates. It's probably

548
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Speaker 5: more from them wanting to maximize commercial time. I think

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Speaker 5: a bigger thing about the lack of war goes on

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Speaker 5: the court. You know Adam Silver, you know, with that

551
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Speaker 5: NBA Cares event and he said that, you know, they're

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Speaker 5: going to consider changing things next season. I'm just beside myself.

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Speaker 5: Even though they explained, you know, there's been concerns in

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Speaker 5: the last years about you know, player feedback that it

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Speaker 5: creates slippery you know, a slippery court. It's the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 5: You want to have a good visual. They do all

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Speaker 5: these different court colors and designs for the NBA Cup

558
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Speaker 5: and you know, we know the NBA Cup, even though

559
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Speaker 5: the NBA is trying to promote, it doesn't have any

560
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Speaker 5: importance compared to the NBA Finals. So I'm just beside myself.

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Speaker 5: They didn't have this right from the jump.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, good, good commentary. Last thing?

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Speaker 2: Can the Indiana Pacers win three of the next six games?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've heard of my opening commentary.

565
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of history with Rick Carlisle. I

566
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Speaker 2: think the world of them, I really do, and I

567
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Speaker 2: think Mark there's an interesting circle of life story developing here.

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Speaker 2: I talked to my buddy Jeremy shapp about it, and

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Speaker 2: four to five he had a very good Carlisle had

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Speaker 2: a very good Pacers team in the November nineteen till

571
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Speaker 2: four the Mouse at the Palace, of which afore mentioned

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Speaker 2: we're on our test, yeah, and one of the funniest

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Speaker 2: coats of all time after the fight in locker whom

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Speaker 2: we looked at Stephen Jackson and said, do you think

575
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Speaker 2: we're in trouble anyway? Twenty years later, now the circle

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Speaker 2: of life in what Carlisle was expected to do in

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Speaker 2: four and five he may do in twenty four and

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Give me a quick take on the rest

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Speaker 2: of the series. In the unions, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I still favor the Thunder will win the series. I

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Speaker 5: favor the Thunder to win Game two. I think Jael

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Speaker 5: Wims and shut Holme Gern will shoot the ball a

583
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Speaker 5: lot better. They'll be more disciplined with their turnover shape,

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Speaker 5: Godess Alexander will continue to play at the high level.

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00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: But look, Indiana is a real deal. They're not a

586
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Speaker 5: fluke team. They've come back from behind and a lot

587
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Speaker 5: of games. Tyrese Alburn has hit four game winning shots.

588
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 5: They have a great team, play at a fast pace

589
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 5: to shoot the ball well. Pascal Siakam is a very

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Speaker 5: consistent number two, and Rick Carlins ahead of a as

591
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: a hell of a coach. I think it's fitting that

592
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Speaker 5: he brought his time up with Indiana, and you know

593
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 5: how things got disrupted because of the palace brawl. I

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Speaker 5: talked with him at a run our tests this week

595
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Speaker 5: and he likened Rick Carlisle. Hear me out. He compared

596
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Speaker 5: him to Gnaws, the hip hop artists, and the reason

597
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: why he did is both people have enduring success and

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Speaker 5: they've been able to innovate. So he was talking about

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Speaker 5: Rick Carlisle in the contrast of how during his time

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Speaker 5: there was a lot more structure. There's a lot more

601
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Speaker 5: play calling here, you know. They he allows the guys

602
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Speaker 5: to call their own plays and he doesn't call a

603
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: lot of time outs. I think it was a very

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Speaker 5: revealing decision that the final play when Tyree said the

605
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Speaker 5: game winner and they didn't call time out because he

606
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Speaker 5: trusts how they play on the floor. I think the

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00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: other thing, you know, where Ron got really serious was

608
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Speaker 5: he's saying, hey, if it wasn't for me, he would

609
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 5: have won multiple championships by now, not just one. So

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Speaker 5: he's a very elite coach, and we have to keep

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Speaker 5: in mind he's already won a championship that happened in

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Speaker 5: twenty eleven with a very good Dallas Mavericks team with

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Speaker 5: Turk Novitski and Jason Kidd, a lot of depth. But

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00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: it was against the Miami Heat the first year of

615
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Speaker 5: the Super team with Lebron, James, Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade,

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Speaker 5: and I think that you have to credit where Carlisle's

617
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: coaching shops for one of the many reasons why they

618
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 5: want in six games in Miami and he's still been

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Speaker 5: a lead ever since.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love on our test. Actually, and if people

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Speaker 2: actually know who knows is, it's actually really not a

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Speaker 2: bad comparison.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I laughed at first, but when he explains, like, you

625
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 5: know what, yeah, makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great stuff, buddy. You always wish we had more

627
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Speaker 2: time ready to go for next week. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: the headlines bring us.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you, man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, Mark Medida Adida magic every Saturday night here

631
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Speaker 2: in the Bernie Frattles Show. Yep, there's just so much

632
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 2: to talk about in the NBA and Bay By then,

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Speaker 2: I think by next week it's just time to play

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Speaker 2: the lead. One more game, right, they play Sunday, they

635
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Speaker 2: play again Wednesday. Yeah, okay, somebody will be up two

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Speaker 2: games to one or maybe three games or nothing. Next

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Speaker 2: Saturday coming up. Well, in eighteen minutes, it's the midnight

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Speaker 2: hour here in Vegas. Eight seven seven nine ninety six

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Speaker 2: six three six nine eight seven seven nine to nine Fox.

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Speaker 2: We got some great topics tonight. Callers have been great.

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Speaker 2: I certainly you know, am looking forward to folks commentaries

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Speaker 2: one of our subjects. One of our subjects tonight is

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Speaker 2: coming in way out of left field. You'll see what

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Speaker 2: I mean. But I bet it might en listen to

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Speaker 2: some of the most interesting comments. Hold that thought, I'm

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Speaker 2: Bernie fraddleworck coming to your line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios, don't go away, or listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddles Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. We are eleven

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Speaker 2: minutes away from the midnight hour from where I sit

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. It will literally be twelve midnight, perhaps

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Speaker 2: same where you sit, but certainly figuratively it's going to

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Speaker 2: be twelve midnight for all of us, which means you

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Speaker 2: get the last word eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: six six nine aged seven seven ninety nine on Fox

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Speaker 2: topic number one, how can not be Aaron Rodgers? But

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Speaker 2: here's the deal. Let's let's take a deeper dive into this,

658
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Speaker 2: because it is all over the map in terms of

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Speaker 2: people thinking is merely tarnishing his resume. It's his late

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Speaker 2: career embrace born out of necessity by both sides. In

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Speaker 2: the one am hour, I'm gonna give a journalistic commentary

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Speaker 2: on the pros and cons and whether this is a

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Speaker 2: fit and whether it can work. But as a fan,

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Speaker 2: do you like this? Are you happy? This finally happened.

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Speaker 2: I said two weeks ago on the show, June tenth

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Speaker 2: was the drop dead date mini Camp. Well, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be here. And by the way, I've found through people

668
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Speaker 2: that this was in the works the whole time.

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Speaker 3: This was never not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, I guess, was upfront behind closed doors with

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Speaker 2: the stealers and said, I got some personal issues I'm

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Speaker 2: working through. We'll get this done and I'll be here

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Speaker 2: for many camp. And that's what happened. But are you

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Speaker 2: happy as a fan? Are you pissed? Is this a

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Speaker 2: buyer beware? Because we know Aaron Rodgers is idiosyncratic and

676
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: that's on a good day. Will this succeed? Will it fail?

677
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Are you rooting for it to fail? Are you rooting

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Speaker 2: for it to succeed? Which one fail or succeed? And

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Speaker 2: that's good because the opposite of love is not hate,

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Speaker 2: it's indifference. No one got this pissed off. When Drew

681
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: Bletsoe tried to have one last turrial with the Cowboys, right,

682
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Speaker 2: no one got this pissed off. And Warren Moon went

683
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Speaker 2: to Seattle or Carson Palmer went to Arizona. It's Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts and all those things.

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned the second topic, and here's where I

686
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Speaker 2: came in out of left field, and see what I

687
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: did there. You know, there was a time when you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the word steroids in radio and callers would line up.

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Speaker 2: Between two thousand and three and two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: I know Rob Parker will remember this. We did it

691
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Speaker 2: well over two hundred shows to get our Detroit for

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Speaker 2: ninety seven to one. The ticket wasn't the ticket then

693
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Speaker 2: it was w KRKS flagship including pre and postal. You'd

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Speaker 2: mentioned steroids and boom right. Well, these days it's become pass.

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Speaker 3: But guess what. Guys are still getting suspended.

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Speaker 2: You just had a situation where Yurickson profar Atlanta Breys outfielder.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of guaranteed money, and it caused former, you know, a

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Speaker 2: major leaguer, Eric Cosmer to say he believes the punishments

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Speaker 2: are players who violate the PDE Dark Policy should be

701
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Speaker 2: much harsher. He should. He's basically said, if you get

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Speaker 2: suspended for eighty games for PDS, you lose all the

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Speaker 2: money remaining without pay. You lose all of it whether

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Speaker 2: you got one hundred and ten million coming or forty

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Speaker 2: million dollars bothe ever, Okay, do you think that's a

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Speaker 2: good idea. But here's the flip side. You're going to

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Speaker 2: get a hell of a kick out of this. In

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six in Las Vegas, there's a group for

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Speaker 2: a Memorial Day weekend putting something together called the Enhanced Games. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they're they're calling it the safest sporting event in history,

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Speaker 2: competition like track and field, swimming, weightlifting, and you are

712
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Speaker 2: allowed to use steroids, use them all you want, eat

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Speaker 2: them like candy. Right, it's rather than you know, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get into this in future shows. But tell me

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Speaker 2: what you think of the idea of the Enhanced Olympics. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Mark Cuban said a fifteen years ago, screw it. Just

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Speaker 2: let everybody use steroids. You don't want to use me,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to. Yes, it'll be perhaps an unfair

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Speaker 2: advantage of those who do it versus those who don't,

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Speaker 2: say LEVI. So do you like the Enhanced Games? Do

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Speaker 2: you agree with Eric Cosmer? Aaron Rodgers? You know we're

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Speaker 2: going with that, and I'll reset it up at the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour.

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Speaker 3: The third topic.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna touch this, but I had to cause

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Speaker 2: you know, if you'd have gone to the Chicago Sky

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Speaker 2: Indiana Fever tonight.

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Speaker 3: Remember the rematch.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark Andrew Reese, the thirty eight point blowout May twentieth,

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Speaker 2: in which the shock around the world was the foul

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Speaker 2: that led to a furre Well. People paid four than

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Speaker 2: thirty four bucks a ticket to go see Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: play an exhibition game in Iowa versus Brazil. You could

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Speaker 2: get into the game Saturday night for three bucks. Three bucks. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you. Kitlin Clark didn't play and

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Speaker 2: was announced she wouldn't play. Ticket prices plummeted hashtag Angel Reese.

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Speaker 2: We know they're all coming to see you, Angel, but

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Speaker 2: one publication went so far as I say, Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: is now the Tiger Woods of the WNBA issue. So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Aaron Rodgers, happy man, pissed, rooting

741
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Speaker 2: for him, rooting against him. What's gonna happen? You know

742
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: it's must watch TV. You can't tell me it's not

743
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Speaker 2: the enhanced games All steroids coming to Vegas or do

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Speaker 2: you believe with Eric Cosmer. Hey, you know, make them

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Speaker 2: lose all their money if they violate it. And is

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark? Is she the Tiger Woods of the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seventy nine one Fox. It's the Midnight Hour

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. Bernie Frawder show

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Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fodder. We're

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Speaker 2: comedy line for the Fox Sports Radio studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Will take you after three am Pacific, six

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Speaker 2: am Eastern. Just getting started. Well, another interesting week in sports.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. We're gonna talk a little steroids and maybe

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Speaker 2: even a little ange Reese. If you wanted to go

757
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Speaker 2: to the game Saturday night between the Sky and the Fever,

758
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Speaker 2: you can get it for three bucks. Three bucks, yup,

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Speaker 2: It's time for the Midnight Hour eight seven, seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six six three six nine eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: to nine on Fox. Callars have been fabulous over the

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Speaker 2: weeks and months and years. I expect tonight to be

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Speaker 2: no different. We've got three saucy topics. We begin in

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Speaker 2: San Diego with Poppy Poppy, your darn padres blew a

765
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Speaker 2: chance to take a lead on the Dodgers tonight in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: But I digress.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's okay, Bernie. They'll have to bounce back a

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Speaker 8: little bit. But you know, I love the when you

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Speaker 8: open up the with Medina Magic, Bernie and you so

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Speaker 8: Medina Magic. No, Jonath is gonna stay in Milwaukee. I

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Speaker 8: love that. No different opinionies.

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Speaker 3: Well I didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: No one of the tweeters at me, I said he's

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Speaker 2: going to stay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about that.

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Speaker 2: But I'd love to hear your thoughts on Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: and the steroid thing, and maybe even a little love

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Speaker 2: the NBA.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you know, Aaron Rodgers opened up the thing.

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Speaker 8: It's interesting because a lot of people are like, we're

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Speaker 8: getting tired about that and stuff like that. At the

782
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 8: end of the day, Aaron Rodgers is a human being

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Speaker 8: like all of us. He has his personal issues he's

784
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Speaker 8: going on, and sometimes we as a sports fans or

785
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 8: not the average Joe sports fans, like, oh.

786
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Speaker 7: What he's doing.

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00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 8: He's doing too much drama. He always does this. He's

788
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 8: doing hulus to Wasco.

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Speaker 9: Why isn't going to Peru?

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Speaker 8: Why isn't going to Aja? Who's he's seen the Egyptian Lover.

791
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 8: Maybe that's gonna help up. But at the end of

792
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Speaker 8: the day, he's got his own personal problems and I

793
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Speaker 8: hope he getting better and he cured himself and his

794
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 8: mental health, and I was very excited. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna see Aaron Rodgers. I'm not an analytic guy,

796
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 8: but dropping some numbers on you guys. Aaron Rodgers had

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Speaker 8: twenty eight passing touch out lafter them. Patrick Mahons had

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Speaker 8: twenty six, So okay, he still has it.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna see what he's gonna do with the.

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Speaker 8: Sailors and d DJ DK METCALT and I'm interested about that.

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Speaker 8: So I'm betterning for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the key, and I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: about this at the one o'clock hour. Pittsburgh has a

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Speaker 2: potentially great defense. They got much better pass protection the

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Speaker 2: Jets have. You know, they got a savvy coach. Look,

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00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: I think this can actually work. But so you're glad

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Speaker 2: Rogers is back anything on steroids of the WNBA, Well,

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Speaker 2: start Roy's.

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Speaker 8: I think it's just Shenanigan's not interested in that.

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Speaker 10: But I do want to talk about the WNBA.

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Speaker 8: I was you know, a WNBA plan, like everybody want

812
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Speaker 8: to see Clayton Garney, Clayton Clark. You know, Clayton Clark,

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Speaker 8: you know, Clark against Angel Rees. Yeah you said the

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Speaker 8: tickets were like three dollars. I saw some tickets were

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Speaker 8: going as as fifty cents. So I'm like, I was

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Speaker 8: not to do the little games, you know, you know,

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00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 8: by by the tip guy by the tip and buy low,

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00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 8: you know, buy low and go to those games, you know.

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Speaker 10: And all right, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark now officially Tiger Woods. I mean, if Tiger

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Speaker 2: was not Day four, people didn't watch as much. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this, but one publication went so far

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Speaker 2: as to say this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's a great, all time great. It's kind of

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Speaker 8: like comparing her to Michael Jordan, Like everyone wanted to

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Speaker 8: go see Michael Jordan back in the days, and yeah Clark.

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Speaker 8: With then WNBA, she's making changes, as you can see

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Speaker 8: on the ticket prices. It's not as much as the

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Speaker 8: w NBA tomorrow with.

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Speaker 11: The finals, you know, the Thunder and.

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Speaker 8: The Pacers, that's going to be a great one and

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Speaker 8: I do want to see that one. And I really

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Speaker 8: love the Thunder minus eleven in my opinion, don't bounce back.

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Speaker 8: But with w NBA Clark, she's the real deal.

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Speaker 7: She's a great player.

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Speaker 8: And if you guys don't appreciate a great mess right

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Speaker 8: now when she's playing, when she's gone, you guys are

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Speaker 8: gonna feel bad. So whenever you get a chance and

839
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Speaker 8: she's on tour on wasn't a lot of time, why

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Speaker 8: not buy your ticket and go see her?

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Speaker 2: All right? Thanks, Poppy, appreciate you man. By the way,

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Speaker 2: just a quick note on the steroid thing. You may

843
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: not know it's been. In the last year, there's been

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Speaker 2: four major leaguers that have been suspended for steroids.

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Speaker 3: Now you only heard of.

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Speaker 2: One of them, Yorick's and Profar, But in the last

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Speaker 2: five years there's been several big names. You know Robinson Cano,

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Speaker 2: you remember Fernando Tatisa. I racked on him a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. So this is an issue. Jim in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: always look forward to what you've got to say.

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Speaker 9: You got the floor, what Bernie, I'll tell you what, Bernie.

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Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers going to Pittsburgh. I can't wait to watch

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Speaker 9: this because he ain't gonna he ain't gonna pull all

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Speaker 9: that crap that he pulled up in those other cities,

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Speaker 9: not in Pittsburgh, because he'll get straightened out in that

856
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 9: locker room, and then if he gets out of there,

857
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 9: he's got to get out of the stadium and go

858
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 9: home with those fans. And I think he knows that

859
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 9: he's played long enough to know the history of all.

860
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 12: Different teams, and I can't wait to watch.

861
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 9: I think he's going to do good things in Pittsburgh.

862
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: I really do.

863
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 7: You know what.

864
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: I kind of do too, Jim, I kind of do too.

865
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: And listen, he doesn't. He's going the Hall of Fame

866
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: for a reason. He's a four time MVP for reasons.

867
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: He had one last run on him. We're gonna find out.

868
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of in agreement with you. What are

869
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 2: your thoughts in this whole steroid thing in this enhanced League?

870
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 9: Well, you know what, steroid thing. The steroid thing really

871
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 9: upsets me, Bernie. They want to do that. Anybody that

872
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 9: applies to go do that. The first thing they ought

873
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 9: to do is make them watch Lyle l Zada a

874
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 9: football life. That's all they gotta do. Because steroids may

875
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 9: help you now, but twenty five years down the road,

876
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 9: it shuts down your liver.

877
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 11: It just that there's nothing you can do.

878
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 9: So why even bother doing that?

879
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, because get there, they've come, so they've they've done

880
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: so good at gaming the system. But here's the thing.

881
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Eric Cosmer has now said. You remember Eric Cosmer, He said,

882
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: you know when your's in profile, which just suspended a

883
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: couple months ago, he's only gonna lose about six million,

884
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: but he just signed a three or forty two million

885
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: dollar contract.

886
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: Hawsford said he should lose the whole damn thing.

887
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: And if all of a sudden, you just got one

888
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars deal on the line for the next

889
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: three years you're hoping to sign, you could possibly lose that.

890
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: That he thinks solves the problem your thoughts.

891
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 9: I think you're right, Bernie. I think the league ought

892
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 9: to do that. And let's see what the Players Association

893
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 9: says in.

894
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 5: All the leaks.

895
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 9: If you get caught with steroids.

896
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 7: You're gonna you're gonna lose your money.

897
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 9: Money talks everything else, walks Bernie.

898
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: So when you think about these.

899
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Speaker 2: Enhanced games coming to Vegas Memorial Day weekend twenty twenty six,

900
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: be like a big track beat swing event waits oh yeah,

901
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: and they're crawling against the third olympiad.

902
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 9: Yeah right, okay, and Angel Reefs and all that with

903
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 9: the Scott you know, and and Caitlin Cott. Caitlin Clark

904
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 9: is so great because she had a good support system.

905
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 9: She had good parent parenting growing up, she had a

906
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 9: good educational system behind her and everything. And that's why

907
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 9: where she is today and why she mentally, mentally is

908
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 9: handling all this crap that's going on going on with her.

909
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 9: And I'll tell you right now. The first thing is,

910
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 9: I don't think Angel Reese will be in the w

911
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 9: NBA in two years. And I think they'll leave if

912
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 9: they don't smarten up. We'll be closed within five years.

913
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 2: Well, Jim, they lose forty million a year. I don't

914
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: get it. I get it, but I don't. I'll leave

915
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: you this thought about injur Reese. Where else can you

916
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: go watch someone shoot twenty two percent from the floor

917
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: and get ten rebounds because five are off the shots

918
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: she missed that center. That's high value, isn't it, Jim Seamen?

919
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 9: That cost effective basketball right there?

920
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: Forty million this year? We're the WNBA, all right, Jim

921
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: always acid? Yeah, thanks, Jim. Look I'm not root for

922
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: him to go away. If someone wants to be Santa Claus,

923
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: who am I? But I've never had the luxury of

924
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: working for a business. It's just, oh, what the hell?

925
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: We can lose forty million every year, we can plainly

926
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: a paid enough and you know, and all all right,

927
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Speaker 2: don't get me started. Eric in New York. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. How are you good?

929
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Speaker 6: How you doing?

930
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: So?

931
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Speaker 6: What's going on?

932
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: All right? But what do you got for us tonight?

933
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: These three topics?

934
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Speaker 6: Okay, about basketball? For the new head coach of the Knicks,

935
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Speaker 6: I want early there, but really from Yukon.

936
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny Hurley. I don't think he's going to be

937
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: in the mix. But that's fair that you want him.

938
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Speaker 6: I mean he's good and also I do like Tammy. I'micker.

939
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 6: I think he'll fit pretty good. You know he might

940
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 6: get He coached Shalford.

941
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: So he's very smart.

942
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 3: I remember him at Michigan too.

943
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Real quickly, any thoughts on the Aaron Rodgers situation.

944
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 9: Oh, I think he's gonna stick up.

945
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 6: The Joe and you know he hasn't any count you know,

946
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 6: you might, I don't, you know, I like, you know,

947
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 6: what I like the name Bernie. Why is my uncle

948
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 6: was the name was Bernie.

949
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 9: We called them Bernie.

950
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 7: The attorney.

951
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: You know that rhymes? Man, you might have a future

952
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: as a poet. You don't even know it. Eric, I

953
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Go ahead, go ahead, get the last word quick.

954
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

955
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 8: You know brend and Nemo for the Mets.

956
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, ive seen him play many times. Great player.

957
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 9: Yeah when he when he drew was a walk.

958
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 6: He's with the Dodgers prints the first base and it's great.

959
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 9: It's good enthusiasm, all.

960
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: Right, Eric, I appreciate it.

961
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 7: Man.

962
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: We take them all here on the midnight hour. As

963
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: you can see.

964
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

965
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: I like Eric uh And.

966
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what his subject matter had to do

967
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: what we're talking about, but this is America, man, live.

968
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 3: How you want to live?

969
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 13: Uh.

970
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: Spocksweed joins us up in Oregon. The artist is currently

971
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: knowing as Spotswed. Where do you want to start? You

972
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: want to start with Aaron? You want to start with steroids?

973
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 9: You want to I didn't know I was an artist,

974
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 9: but this is terrific.

975
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 14: Thank you for the for the props, dude, Aaron Rodgers,

976
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 14: I love it. I mean everything Aaron Rodgers does He's

977
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 14: got his issues, but you know that's his brand now

978
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 14: it turns out, and you know, leaning into all his

979
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 14: issues and being aloof and all that kind of stuff.

980
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 14: He's going to be great for the for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

981
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 14: not necessarily playing for them, but I mean it, I've

982
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 14: got a.

983
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: Feeling he might keep tell me that that opening night

984
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: game at the New York Jets is not just be

985
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: absolute must eve by c TV.

986
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, they're going to put it on on Amazon

987
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 14: and make sure everybody pays a pretty penny for that thing. Probably,

988
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 14: and whatever he does, well, whether it's just crappy, it

989
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 14: doesn't matter, it's it is absolutely must see television. I

990
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 14: wonder can I mean I know that you know Tomlin

991
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 14: and him go go back and they have good relationship.

992
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: But can he be coached at this?

993
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely.

994
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm hearing stories that he spent a lot of time

995
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: around the weight room and he actually won a lot

996
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: of players over. They don't really know him until you've

997
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: been in your locker room. And he walked in and

998
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: two guys were doing max bench and just working their

999
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: butt off, and Aaron Rockston walked in and goes and

1000
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: I guess he walked in and say, hey, guys, are

1001
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: you ready to start working out? You're gonna just keep

1002
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: fing around, they laughed. I guess he's got a you know,

1003
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: odd since look, I'm giving this a chance. I'm keeping

1004
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: an open mind, and I got a funny feeling. I

1005
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: got a funny feeling this is gonna work. But look

1006
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: they won. They won ten games last year with freaking

1007
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: justin fields and and and and Russell Wilson. Then they

1008
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: won nine the year before with can you Pickett? And I,

1009
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: by the way, can you pick it? If Steve and

1010
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: Tennis a starter? Anything on my steroids stuff?

1011
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: Unba, Well, first of.

1012
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 14: All, gonna tell you your funny feelings because they're eating

1013
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 14: way too many lunchable I think.

1014
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: So I was going, you know, you know my routine,

1015
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: don't you. I'm a simple guy, all right.

1016
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 14: But the steroid thing is, I mean, I would tune

1017
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 14: into that just to see it. I kind of hate

1018
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 14: to see it. You know, it will draw some eyes

1019
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 14: and it will be interesting to see what's going on.

1020
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 14: But god, steroids are so damn dangerous, and you know

1021
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 14: these dudes are going.

1022
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 15: To be be roided out and they're going to die

1023
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 15: in their in.

1024
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 14: Their fifties if they to go for that, and it's

1025
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 14: encouraging that I think is kind of a mistaken is

1026
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 14: a disservice, but you know, people are free will, as

1027
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 14: we both know, and that's the way it is.

1028
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: On that real quickly, just a.

1029
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: Few seconds anything on the fact, you could have got

1030
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: into the Chicago's guy and I gain tonight for three bucks.

1031
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 14: Three to three bucks would have meant really cheap beer also,

1032
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 14: which is what you need if you're watching the w NBA,

1033
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 14: especially without Kaylin Clark.

1034
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 16: Angel Reef.

1035
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 14: There's people that are that are watching. The bros are

1036
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 14: watching the WNBA to see Angel Reese ever makes the

1037
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 14: first shot of the game.

1038
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Fusbox, you keeping v you keep it real

1039
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: up there, and we're going to always appreciate you, buddy. Look,

1040
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: you're all getting into that, okay, Maddie in South Carolina,

1041
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: Emmett and Olympia and Mike the Leprechaun, you're all up

1042
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: next eight seven seven ninety nine nine six six three

1043
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: six nine eight seven, seven nine to nine on Fox.

1044
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: I want to hear your thoughts on Aaron Rodgers. You're

1045
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: happy that's happened, You pissed, You're rooting for him? Is

1046
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: it buyer Beware, Must see TV? Are they going to succeed?

1047
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 2: Are they going to fail? Are you rooting for them

1048
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: to fail or succeed? You have an opinion? I know

1049
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: you do. Uh, And we're gonna get real quickly the

1050
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: steroid deal, you know. Like Eric Hofmore said, there have

1051
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: been four Major league players suspended under the radar last year.

1052
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 2: He said they should lose the remainder of their salary.

1053
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: On the other hand, they're gonna have the enhanced games

1054
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: here in Vegas. Speaking of enhanced games, games a lot

1055
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: more enhanced apparently when Caitlin Clark plays. Because you could

1056
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: have got into the Chicago Sky game tonight for three bucks.

1057
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: You heard me right, eight seven, seven ninety nine On

1058
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1061
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1067
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Speaker 2: They were back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Minute hours off and running, and we're talking little Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: your thoughts, steroids, your thoughts, and you got three bucks.

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Speaker 2: Could have gone see the Chicago sky play tonight. Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark versus Injuries. Oh wait a minute, there was no

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. Back to the phones. Maddie in South Carolina

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Speaker 2: joined just Maddie. Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 12: Bernie, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: My friend doing well?

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Speaker 9: Sir?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for checking in tonight.

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Speaker 12: I've heard the three questions and I heard another gentleman

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Speaker 12: compare Kaitlyn Clark, tomug Jordan, No.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he meant in terms of yballs. I

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Speaker 2: certainly not. Yeah, I'm just trying to give you some context.

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Speaker 2: I had a feeling this might be coming. But I

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Speaker 2: think the context Maddie with which that was said was

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Speaker 2: it becomes must see for people who might not even

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Speaker 2: be interested in basketball, or certainly the WNBA are going

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Speaker 2: to check and see what this is all out. I

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Speaker 2: think that's what I mean.

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Speaker 12: Truthly, truthfully, no one's interested in the.

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Speaker 5: W n b A.

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Speaker 12: And that's just the fact.

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Speaker 3: I can't argue with him, Maddie, and I can't.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 12: I want to answer all three of your questions. And

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Speaker 12: you're talking about Aaron Rodgers and steroids.

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Speaker 2: Well, Aaron Rodgers, he signed, He's a polarizing guy. It's

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Speaker 2: must watch TV. Are you happy? Are you pissed? Is

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Speaker 2: this buyer beware? Is it going to succeed? Is it

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Speaker 2: going to fail? Are you rooting for him to fail?

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Speaker 2: What are you?

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Speaker 3: Where are you on Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 12: Well, I don't root for anyone to fail. That's not

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Speaker 12: my style. Okay, but I have used steroids, okay, and

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Speaker 12: Lyle Zado was doing the wrong things improperly. If you

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Speaker 12: take milk thistle.

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Speaker 3: Actually take that for my liver.

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Speaker 12: It will keep your liver healthy. And if you if

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Speaker 12: you know how to do steroids, like.

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Speaker 2: You're good about wanting to learn, you know what the hell? No,

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Speaker 2: the context and I appreciate the call. I don't want

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Speaker 2: you to be a stranger. The context for that subject,

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Speaker 2: Mattie was, You've got one side of the side coin

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Speaker 2: where Eric Cosmo or former player is commenting, we're still

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Speaker 2: getting guys suspended for eighty games after all this time.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they should lose all the rest of their money

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Speaker 2: and they'll stop doing it. On the other side, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be something called the Enhanced Games here in

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Speaker 2: Vegas and morely weekend next year in the track and field, swimming, weightlifting,

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Speaker 2: and they can use all the steroids they want.

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Speaker 3: So where are we as a society? I guess on.

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Speaker 12: That people getting suspended or you know, you owe five

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Speaker 12: game texts, you know, like their finances aren't my problem.

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Speaker 12: But I'm here to tell you I coached across to

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Speaker 12: the athlete. I coached strong men, okay, like like I know,

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Speaker 12: I honestly know what I'm talking about, and.

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Speaker 2: Just I got you mad you know, listen, I got

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Speaker 2: to get to all the calls. I don't want you

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Speaker 2: to be a stranger on my show. I want thoughtful calls.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doubting the beauty of that call is this.

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Speaker 2: It's probably not the conventional thought, but based on in life,

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Speaker 2: where you sit is where you stand, and you have

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Speaker 2: experience with this, you have an alternative viewpoint which is

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Speaker 2: exactly what we want on them in that hour. And

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Speaker 2: perhaps in a future show you can call in, we

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Speaker 2: can delve back into this. I just want to make

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Speaker 2: sure I give all the callers on a fair time.

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Speaker 2: But your points are duly noted on the WNBA and

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and on steroids. Fair enough, Lett in Olympia.

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious, Eman, since you listen you live in Olympia. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: start calling you mister Olympia.

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Speaker 10: That's a good idea. I like that, Bernie. You know

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Speaker 10: I've been it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And I take nole too. It's good for my liver.

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Speaker 10: Hey, there you go.

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Speaker 17: But I think for Aaron Rodgers, I have the perfect comparison.

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Speaker 17: He's that crazy uncle that's at the family gathering where

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Speaker 17: he has these like crazy cakes where it's like what

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Speaker 17: are you talking about, dude? But people love them, you know,

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Speaker 17: people think that Aaron Rodgers is a great dude.

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Speaker 10: And I think that. I'm not mad at the signing

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Speaker 10: at all. I mean, I knew it was going to happen.

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Speaker 18: I knew what Aaron Rodgers was gonna delay us and

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Speaker 18: be like, Oh, I'm gonna do these cryptic messages where

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Speaker 18: I talked about who knows what I'm going to do

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Speaker 18: next year, I'm going to say I'm gonna be in

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Speaker 18: the Chicago Stadium, just trying to keep us guessing.

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Speaker 10: I knew that was going to happen.

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Speaker 17: And in terms of how good the Steelers are going

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Speaker 17: to do, they're the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 10: They always find a way to be good.

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Speaker 17: They have a great defense, they have DK Metcalf, they

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Speaker 17: have Mike Tomlin. Like there's pieces around Aaron Rodgers. But

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Speaker 17: the one thing I'm worried about what they Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 17: is that offensive line. I mean, Russell Wilson, who can

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Speaker 17: move a little bit better, struggled with that offensive line.

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Speaker 17: And Aaron Rodgers is forty one. He's just not the

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Speaker 17: same he was even three years ago.

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Speaker 10: On his leg. So I'm a little bit worried about

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Speaker 10: that in a way.

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Speaker 17: But the Steelers they just find a way to be good.

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Speaker 17: And I could see him maybe going out and trading

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Speaker 17: for someone to beef up that offensive line. And the

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Speaker 17: WNBA talking about the three dollars tickets for the Chicago

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Speaker 17: game today, Man, it just shows how terrible Angel Reeves is.

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Speaker 10: And rees and she was coming out saying, oh, you.

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Speaker 17: Know, people got to look at me like I'm the

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Speaker 17: star and all this right, you shoot two for seven,

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Speaker 17: four points and like twelve ReBs.

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Speaker 10: It's insane. It's insanity.

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Speaker 17: You get half your boards on your misshot, It's like

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Speaker 17: and that's.

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Speaker 3: The lear Emmett.

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Speaker 2: When the arenas were full and this was truly being

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Speaker 2: billed as a rivalry, Andrew Reese made sure everybody knew, hey,

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Speaker 2: they're not just coming out to see her, they're coming

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Speaker 2: out to see me. Sure for three.

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Speaker 10: Bucks, that's right, Yeah, exactly three bucks.

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Speaker 17: And it will be a lot more than that if

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Speaker 17: you're more of an intriguing player to watch. And you know,

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Speaker 17: I have no idea what the what the Chicago Sky's

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Speaker 17: record is. I heard Aaron Torres and Jason Martin say

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Speaker 17: they're third to last in the standings in.

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Speaker 2: The wiz stink. I think they're two and seven or

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Speaker 2: something like CV. That just goes to show you how

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Speaker 2: much I mean, you're an avid sports fan.

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Speaker 17: You don't follow the w NBA, right, I follow Caitlin

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Speaker 17: Clark a little bit more. But I'm not like, oh,

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Speaker 17: I have to like cancel all my plans to watch

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Speaker 17: the Fever game.

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Speaker 10: Like that's not it at all. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 10: bored going on the TV channel, scrolling to the Hulu

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Speaker 10: and I see a w NBA game.

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Speaker 18: There's nothing else.

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Speaker 17: I think it's more intriguing, that's all I'm gonna I'll

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Speaker 17: watch it. I'm not going out of my way for it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the skyre two and five so terrible.

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Speaker 10: But I'm going to go over to the steroids thing here.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, I think we all know that, you know.

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Speaker 17: Steroids, they've had a lot of negative effects on people,

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Speaker 17: and you know, you can argue Maddie's point the last

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Speaker 17: caller that there.

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Speaker 10: Is some positive effects.

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Speaker 17: I mean, you take something that he was considering a

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Speaker 17: steroid for your liver, right, so there is positive effects.

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Speaker 17: And I think that having this thing in Vegas where

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Speaker 17: these people who take the steroids can come and compete.

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Speaker 17: Could be a really cool idea because I've always wondered,

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Speaker 17: like I wasn't alive in the nineties when a lot

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Speaker 17: of these players in the MLB were juiced up. So

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Speaker 17: I think it'd be really cool to see, like, especially

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Speaker 17: if they have like powerlifting in there, like how much

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Speaker 17: truly does the steroids help? And I heard a couple

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Speaker 17: other people on the network say that the steroids, you know,

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Speaker 17: you still have to train, which is true, but if

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Speaker 17: you do train, it's gonna enhance it.

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Speaker 10: So I'm really interested to see what happens with that.

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Speaker 17: So there's gonna be a tuning eye there. And I'm

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Speaker 17: not really mad at it because either way people are

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Speaker 17: going to do it. If it's illegal legal, if there's

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Speaker 17: games four, if there's not, people are still gonna take it.

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Speaker 17: So why not have a game that's.

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Speaker 2: Been born out thanks to Emmit by what's happening in

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 3: Onto the radar. There have been.

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Speaker 2: Four players to spended eighty games in the last year.

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Speaker 2: The only you've heard of is York and Profar still happening. Well, Mike,

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Speaker 2: the leper Con Joints just welcome back in Mike how are.

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Speaker 10: You good morning?

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Speaker 2: How about you good? So what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: these subjects tonight?

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Speaker 8: I have many thoughts as usual.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to Las Vegas and that's that's angel, so

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Speaker 13: I might see you, that's the one.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, he's going to Dublin in September. Did you

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Speaker 8: know that?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, apparently the Steelers have a game there, So there

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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 13: The Steelers and the Vikings are playing in September. And

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Speaker 13: the Vikings were the ones who formed Dublin.

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Speaker 8: Back in nine eighty eighty eight, the only city.

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Speaker 13: Where the population is always doubling every year. Right anyway,

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Speaker 13: So Rodgers is very polarizing, Like you said, but.

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Speaker 2: Are you glad this happened? What are they gonna Wintburgh?

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Speaker 13: But he said he it's a d at this point

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Speaker 13: in his career, and he hasn't played well for four years.

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Speaker 13: He should live by but by.

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Speaker 8: Doing the for example, he's all top right now and

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Speaker 8: no action. All right.

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Speaker 7: So that's enough about Aaron Rodgers. Caroyds.

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Speaker 13: I remember Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds, and one of

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Speaker 13: my heroes was Lam Sandstrong. It's an unfair advantage. You

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Speaker 13: put stuff in your body.

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Speaker 8: You wake up the next day and you have no

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Speaker 8: pardners compared to.

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Speaker 2: Him, we feel we agree, And so what Eric Cosmer

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Speaker 2: former Padre first Baseman said, if you get suspended, you

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Speaker 2: should have the rest of your contract voided. Basically, do

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Speaker 2: you agree with that?

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Speaker 13: I agree the punishment and lancear Strong paid a very

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Speaker 13: heavy punishment after getting away for it with seven two

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Speaker 13: of the frances anyway, and he's a great human being. Now,

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Speaker 13: I think the punishment should be as big as possible

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Speaker 13: to make it be less inviting to pretend to be

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Speaker 13: an athlete when you're really faking it. So yes, I

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Speaker 13: would say that the bigger the cost of better as

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Speaker 13: a disincentive.

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Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, Wnba, Yes you could have gotten

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Speaker 2: the game for three bucks.

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Speaker 13: Your thoughts, Yes, but you wouldn't pay three bucks for

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01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 13: your beer or your hot dog inside, So it did get.

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Speaker 8: You anyway from the concession stand. But it's necessary.

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Speaker 2: But you get the point. When Caitlin Clark was playing,

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: they're charging four and thirty four bucks a ticket to

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Speaker 2: play an exhibition game in Iowa versus Brazil. This is

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01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: a regular He's in game against the supposed burd versus

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01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: Magic rivalry. Which is never going to materialize. Forget it.

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Speaker 13: Okay, if he can get three bucks out of your pockets,

1300
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 13: they have you in there, and your your a spectator,

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 13: and it's a necessary part of the NBA. I don't

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 13: believe it should be a separate entity. I believe the

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 13: NBA should be endorsing it and healthy they are, to.

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01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: The tune of about forty million a year.

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 8: Yes, and that's proper order.

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 13: Proper order, because there's going to be a brilliant ladies

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 13: basketball team for the Olympics in two years all new,

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 13: all right.

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: And we had that before the WNBA. Actually we had

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01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: that before the WNBA. Go ahead, Mike, you got the

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01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: last word. All right?

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Speaker 3: All good?

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01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Rick and Louisiana Joint.

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Speaker 3: Just hey, Rick, what's up? Buddy?

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01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: Well?

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01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 16: Hey, how you doing.

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01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: Bernie good Man?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: Thanks Taking McCall I am as as far as Aaron Rodgers,

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01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 15: I hope Aaron Rodgers does well for the sake of

1321
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 15: Mike Comlin.

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 16: My question is if he stinks up the place, will

1323
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 16: he get bitched?

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01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, you got Mastin, Rudolph, Will Howard and and you know,

1325
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: I think Cliff's stout. I mean it's not it's doubtful.

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: It's it's it's actually doubtful. I don't I think they're

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01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna ride.

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Speaker 10: I think they're gonna ride with them too.

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Speaker 7: You know he did.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I've been ninety percent of the time bashing Aaron

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers the last four years, but he did throw a

1332
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: twenty touchdown passes and against eleven interceptions last year. I

1333
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: think he's got one more in them, I think in

1334
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: that culture. Yeah, it's just an opinion, but I'm glad

1335
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: this happened. I know I'm in a minority. Rick. I

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: think they're gonna pull this off. What does that mean?

1337
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: I think to go ten and seven? You know, I'm

1338
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: not predicting to go to the Super Bowl. Your thoughts

1339
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: on this whole steroid issue which never comes up anymore?

1340
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: But should these plays their entire salary? And what do

1341
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: you think about these enhanced games?

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01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 15: I would say with the enhanced games, no, I mean

1343
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 15: as far as the steroids, And I think back on

1344
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 15: people you know that got their metals stripped because of

1345
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 15: still Royd's you know, and you asked them and they

1346
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 15: would say, no, they shouldn't do it because I got

1347
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 15: penalized when I was doing it. And as far.

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01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 16: As in the in baseball, I think that it probably

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 16: may be more prevalent than igree. I agree, then then

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 16: you know, and and if it's only I mean, out

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01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 16: of all the players and you're only getting four five, uh,

1352
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 16: I mean, I don't know why they singled out, but

1353
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 16: I think it could be possible, just possible that it's

1354
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 16: more prevalent. And as far as Kaitlyn Clark, uh, Caitlyn

1355
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 16: Clark comparing her to Tiger Woods, Let's let's let her

1356
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 16: wi something first, because that's fair.

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Speaker 2: This is one publication I think, and again to call

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: you that's a fair point. Rick. The couple of the

1359
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: publication was implying that when people she ain't playing, people

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: aren't watching. And at Tiger woodsdon't play on Sunday, wind

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: Loser draw, people were watching that, you know, they just

1362
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: weren't watching. That's why that publication said that.

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 15: Okay, but you are right, you are right.

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: You know, you know, finishing second in this country is

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: not something that people remember anything else.

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Speaker 19: Rick, Yeah, I will gonna go back a little bit

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 19: on Aaron Rodgers. You know, lang Mike Common was splitting

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01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 19: it up between Wilson and Fields, and I'm saying, is

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 19: he going to do that this year.

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Speaker 3: No, No, they're not.

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: You're I think you're giving Aaron Rodgers the keys to

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: the car. And and he's a Hall of Famer, he's

1373
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: four MVPs. Look, I'm going to talk about this at

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: Linked at one o'clock. Okay, Okay, there's really a couple

1375
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: of questions here, is this going to be a fit?

1376
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: And how much gas does he really have in the tank.

1377
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: Let's say it's a good fit, it's a good move.

1378
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: We don't know how much gas. The guys turns forty

1379
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: two in Setember the National Football League with a brand

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: new team in a brand new system, and I already

1381
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: see one thing coming. I'll tease this for one o'clock.

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: I like DK Metcalf. He's a world class athlete. He's

1383
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: not a precise he's not a real precise rot runner.

1384
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers eats that. He's a big time playmaker,

1385
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: but he's not a real precise rot runner. So look,

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01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: there's always potential here for trevel in paradise.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and I guess the other thing too. With Aaron Rodgers,

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 16: I didn't really like the way he was and maybe

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 16: on the outside it looked like he was holding Pittsburgh hostage.

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 16: But you know it may not have been since they

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 16: probably had an agreement.

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: That we think somewhere. I think so and they and

1393
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,959
Speaker 2: they don't know what's that explanation, but past his prologue

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: and Rogers is a victim of his prior.

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Speaker 3: Shenannig.

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Speaker 2: And thanks so much, Rick, I always appreciate you calling in.

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01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: Let's get one more in here, Wyatt in Washington Joint.

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: Just welcome to the Bernie Frauder showy man.

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Speaker 10: Thanks taking the call.

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: You bet.

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Speaker 20: When it comes to the w NBA, I think everyone

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 20: so far tonight it's been pretty pretty on point, like

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 20: they're watching. If they are watching, they're watching for Kaylin Clark,

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 20: the drama for performing the quote unquote rivalries that are

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 20: taking place, but.

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 10: There isn't really a rivalry.

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01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 20: Like Angel Reese has played fifty percent more games than

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 20: it's still averaging nine points less per game than Kaitlin

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01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 20: Clark and Kayln Clark hasn't played in like two weeks now,

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01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 20: so it's a non issue. Three bucks is three bucks.

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01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 20: I guess if you're super bored, go watch it. But

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 20: that's not too big.

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01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, HATCHI played it would have been

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: one hundred bucks, and so there's a context to this conversation.

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 20: And I think that's the key though, Like, no one

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 20: is going to the games unless they're going to the

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 20: games to watch Kayln.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: Clark, Like, hey, what they're going to be watching Steelers games?

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: Regardless of what your thoughts are, it's must watch TV.

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 2: Are you glad the Steelers did this? What are your thoughts?

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 20: I'm kind of indifferent, Like I'm a Seahawks fan til

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 20: I die, but I have a lot of respect for

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01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 20: the Steelers. I think the bigger issue is Tomlin. I

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 20: think he got exactly what he wanted. He got a

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 20: quarterback that'll make him go nine and eight so his

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01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 20: records stay alive. I think the best thing Rogers can

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 20: do for the team right now is just bring leadership

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 20: and experience to the team. And then the last caller

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 20: said it really well two or two callers ago that

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 20: he's just not physically the quarterback that he I think

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 20: needs to be for that team to be successful at

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 20: this point.

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: Likely likely, but we're going to see if he's got

1435
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: one left in him, and maybe he.

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: Has the last left.

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01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: And then quickly on steroids.

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Speaker 10: I'm a doctor.

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 20: I think if they're going to take them, they should

1440
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 20: take them. But if they're playing in a league where

1441
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 20: they're banned.

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 10: Ban them out right.

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01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 20: And yeah, the player who said that the contract should

1444
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 20: be avoided one hundred percent correct. But I do like

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01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 20: the idea of the enhanced games. If people are gonna

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 20: take them, put them in their own league and see

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 20: what they can come up with and what they can.

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Speaker 2: Produce good stuff. Why don't be a stranger. Appreciate your

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: thoughts Tonight, Brock or Bryce Brock and Greg in that order.

1450
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: You're going to be up next. We're going to get

1451
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: to all of you.

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 3: And as the.

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Speaker 2: Min at hour continues eight seven, seven nine, nine, six

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Speaker 2: three six nine, I'm Bernie Frowner. We are coming to

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Speaker 2: live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 3: Keep it lock.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frownle Show. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All Right, the midnight hout rolls out to Bernie Frawdles Show.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phone lines. Bryce in Texas, manytime,

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: cal We appreciate it.

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Bernie frown Show.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Man, I'm.

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Speaker 11: So glad that you're back. I figured that's talking about

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 11: the w NBA. Two each their scared your way, which

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 11: is why you missed last week. But I'm glad you're back.

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01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 2: Thanks bub What do you got for us tonight?

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01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 7: Uh?

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 11: I think two weeks ago I was talking to you

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01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 11: about how the WNBA needs the rivalry to keep them alive,

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 11: and Ryanqulbets and Caitlin Clark got hurt. And now there's nothing,

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 11: no spattering or anything. It's going to show that that's

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 11: exactly what they need. I know people don't like how

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 11: it went down between her and Angel Reef, but that

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 11: was the only thing keeping the legal lives and now

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01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 11: there's nothing to fight or argue over. It's showing how

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01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 11: much or how little people care about the w NBA

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 11: outside of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight was an inflection point. Now they're going to

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: continue playing and the product on the floor is not

1480
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: that bad. It just doesn't thrill me. It's a good point. Bryce,

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01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: and they got Aaron Rodgers or steroids.

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Speaker 11: As far as Aaron Rogers, I know. One caller said,

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 11: I hope nobody. I never wish that anybody.

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Speaker 7: Does it do well.

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Speaker 11: I'm not that closing. I'm a brown stand. I hope

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 11: he like slips on a banana pill or something every down.

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Speaker 2: But well, I'll tell you one thing. I'd love to

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: see the Browns win it. I mean, a great city

1489
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, in a great area.

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Speaker 11: But go ahead, I was gonna say. I do agree

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 11: with you, though, I think that with him there's still

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 11: going to be that nine or ten win team. They

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01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 11: haven't really done him much favors though. They kind of

1494
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 11: got rid of some of their receiving cores, so he's

1495
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 11: stuck in DK in that cast. But I think they

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 11: still get ninerkin wins. And as far as the steroids,

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01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 11: I don't think it's as prevalent in baseball as people

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 11: make it up to me. Yeah, we've had some big

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01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 11: names to hit with it, but I think overall baseball

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 11: does a pretty good job keeping the game clean. It

1501
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 11: was a steroid it in Vegas. I cannot wait to

1502
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 11: see that. I will a heartbeat to see.

1503
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: That Memorial Day. All right, pl thanks a lot, Bryce.

1504
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,839
Speaker 2: I want to get through these calls Brock and Alberta.

1505
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: Welcome in.

1506
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 21: Hey, Bernie, how's it going that a long time?

1507
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: No brock line, good deal?

1508
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 3: What do you got for us tonight?

1509
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1510
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 21: Well, let's start with w NBA and Kaitlin Clark. First

1511
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 21: of all, the Kalen Clark is not in the w NBA.

1512
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 21: You know that league is is nothing. You know, garage

1513
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 21: doors closed, lights are off, and there's no party there now.

1514
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 21: So I think you know that's completely on her. She's

1515
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 21: made the spotlight. So that's my opinion on that. And

1516
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 21: then to Aaron Rodgers, uh, you know, the Steelers finding him,

1517
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 21: I think you know, I don't think he's the guy's watched.

1518
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 21: I mean, I think we talked about.

1519
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 10: This before on our earlier show, about.

1520
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 21: Maybe a couple of weeks ago, a month ago. I'm

1521
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 21: not sure, but you know, his legacy secure, and I

1522
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 21: think you said that before too. You know, he's won

1523
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 21: a Super Bowl, he's got four m vps, even though

1524
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 21: it was like a billion years ago that he won,

1525
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 21: he still got it. But now I just I just

1526
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 21: don't think he's relevant. And honestly, I just I just

1527
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 21: don't think he's gonna do anything for the Feelers. And

1528
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 21: I guess I'll to see what the wait till till

1529
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 21: uh September and field it plays out.

1530
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: So all right, anything else for us today, Bud.

1531
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 21: No, I think that's it all.

1532
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1533
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 2: Brock, you take care of Greg and Texas.

1534
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 3: Welcome back in and are you what's going on?

1535
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 7: Urtin?

1536
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: Go ahead?

1537
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 7: Okay here, I am Aaron Rodgers. I think again, it's

1538
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:45,480
Speaker 7: kind of like this thing's been played out before. Everybody's

1539
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 7: looking at the game and just waiting for his ankles

1540
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 7: to go out or anything like that. I do think

1541
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 7: he brings something to Pittsburgh that they don't have, but

1542
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 7: they don't have anything around him. They've got good receivers,

1543
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 7: they don't have warning game, so it's just gonna be

1544
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 7: crossing your fingers to make sure he doesn't get knocked

1545
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 7: out for the next game. So I'm kind of worried

1546
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 7: about that, but we'll just see how that goes. As

1547
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 7: far as the steroids, steroids to me has been a

1548
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 7: thing about cinema sea anyway. It's not about the power.

1549
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 7: It's about the guys playing day to day and but

1550
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 7: I get all that.

1551
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 2: But what we're talking about here, big fella, is you

1552
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: heard Eric Cosmer. Should they lose the rest of their

1553
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: salary if they're caught again?

1554
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 7: Well, okay, as far as that goes under the way

1555
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 7: the contracts are written and everything, Yeah, if you know

1556
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 7: the rules and you'll play by them, you're gonna get caught.

1557
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 7: And that's just the way it is. But as far

1558
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 7: as as far as the steroid league that's going on

1559
01:16:53,640 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 7: or whatever they're gonna do, that's interesting, we'll see. And

1560
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 7: as far as w n B A w n B A,

1561
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 7: before Caitlin and Angel and all them came around, it

1562
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 7: was spodder for me doing crossword puzzles.

1563
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 8: I put it on the TV and then.

1564
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 7: Just do crossword puzzles. It just didn't interest me. Once

1565
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 7: they had a little bit of rivalry, just fart, it

1566
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 7: interested me. But the way with.

1567
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: That rapiere for gaysy there, big fellow, I mean, and

1568
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't mean to catch a short crag. I want

1569
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: to get to our last caller. Hold that thought maybe

1570
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: for next week. But what I'm trying to figure out

1571
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: now is, you know, is this a real inflection point?

1572
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 2: And maybe that's where you were going. Jane and Kentucky,

1573
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: welcome in. Now you got the last word.

1574
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 22: Hey, Arnie, I kind of see Aaron Rodgers like Kevin Durant.

1575
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 22: Every off season it seems like everybody's talking about somebody

1576
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 22: trading for them or bringing them in as a free agent,

1577
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 22: and so it's gonna work.

1578
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 2: You think it's gonna work in Pittsburgh or no, I.

1579
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 22: Think that it a cell ticket and you know it'll

1580
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 22: give you guys plenty of content, but in the end,

1581
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 22: they're not gonna win a championship.

1582
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 2: Well, no, that's yet. I don't think it argue with that.

1583
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: I think anything on the w n b A.

1584
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 22: I think that Caitlin has not reached Tigers status yet.

1585
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 22: You have to win a little bit for that. But

1586
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 22: I think for popularity to go up, there does need

1587
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 22: to be that rival. Maybe that could be Paide or

1588
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 22: do Do in a couple of years, but it's not Angel.

1589
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: That's for sure.

1590
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: I think she's just not in anywhere good rebound. Yeah.

1591
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 22: On the steroids thing, we know that the players Union

1592
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 22: runs that league, so they're probably never going to agree

1593
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 22: to that. But I'm against steroids and combat sports, you know,

1594
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 22: because you could do real damage to someone.

1595
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: But as far as the.

1596
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 22: Enhanced games, I'm all for it. Let's let's see how

1597
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 22: high a human actually can jump.

1598
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: That's funny, good stuff.

1599
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: Jay. And by the way, Greg getting text, I apologize.

1600
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't need to cut you short there. What I'm

1601
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 2: trying to do is make sure we get all the

1602
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 2: callers in. You certainly call back next week. And the

1603
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: key is a lot of times people do have good comments,

1604
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: but given the limited nature we I want to try

1605
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: to really focus in on the sort of almost yes

1606
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: or no aspect is a WNBA did they really out

1607
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: themselves tonight with three dollars tickets because Caitlin Clarke didn't play.

1608
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: It was against Angel Reese, she didn't play. Aaron Rodgers

1609
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 2: all over the board like we thought it would be,

1610
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: and steroids all over the board. Great stuff. Is always

1611
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: really appreciate the midnight callers. If I cut you off,

1612
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: don't take it personal. I'm just trying to get everybody

1613
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: in coming out. I'm gonna talk about Aaron Rodgers and

1614
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: Gill you what I really think. We're gonna break it down.

1615
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Keep it locked to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox

1616
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,520
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1617
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1618
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, you heard the man Bernie Fraddle Show

1619
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along.

1620
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: My name is Bernie Frattleer.

1621
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: We are comedy line from the Fox Sports Radio studios

1622
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Take after three Pacific, six am

1623
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: Eastern special. Thanks again to all the callers of the

1624
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: Midnight Hour and one of the topics tonight. Well, the

1625
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: WNBA has certainly got a lot of the topics since

1626
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 2: you had three dollars tickets. One city that will have

1627
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: no trouble selling tickets nor do they ever as Pittsburgh.

1628
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: And finally, and probably was the worst kept secret, frankly

1629
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: in retrospect, it was always to me going to be

1630
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: a fade to complete that Rogers would sign with the Steelers.

1631
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: Just didn't know when I said two weeks ago on

1632
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: my show that June tenth, that's Tuesday, is really the

1633
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: key date to watch because that's mandatory mini camp and

1634
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: if Rogers is not there for that, I mean, this

1635
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: guy is even a bigger load in the shorts. And

1636
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 2: I thought, because if you have designs on somewhat diminishing

1637
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: or erasing your finalty years and the jets, which is

1638
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, tantam out to a drunk crossing a nicy street,

1639
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out. It was a disaster from

1640
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: the jump, starting with an extremely unfortunate injury and it

1641
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: just seemed to go from there. So now's got a

1642
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: fresh start, but not everybody's.

1643
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 3: Down with this.

1644
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: Skip Bayless wasted no time in ripping the Steelers, calling

1645
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: Rogers a forty one year old, washed up diva, slams

1646
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: the deal. Meanwhile, does anybody wonder why the Minnesota Vikings

1647
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: and Kevin O'Connell basically rejected Aaron Rodgers. Remember this is

1648
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: the team that Rogers really wanted to go to, Okay,

1649
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 2: and he made that I think no one very much

1650
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: behind the scenes back in March when he was released

1651
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: by the Jets.

1652
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 3: And the truth of.

1653
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: The matter is, if you're talking about a one year deal,

1654
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: just a one year deal, that actually would have been,

1655
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: you know, the best landing spot for Aaron Rodgers given

1656
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: where they are. And there in lines the reason Kevin O'Connell,

1657
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,919
Speaker 2: a very thoughtful guy who is Sean mcvay's offensive coordinator

1658
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: when the Rams won their Super Bowl and has done

1659
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: a phenomenal job I believe in Minnesota, took the time

1660
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: as a friend to sit down with Aaron Rodgers. He

1661
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: just didn't make it to the front page, that's all.

1662
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 2: And he revealed the reason he turned down the chance

1663
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,839
Speaker 2: to sign Aaron Rodgers. He simply said, look, he's focused

1664
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: on what's doing best for the future in Caps, the

1665
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: future of the franchise, not a one year deal, the

1666
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 2: long term future, big picture, long term future. He's going

1667
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: to ride with JJ McCarthy twenty two years old. He's

1668
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: going to be the starter. Okay. He explained this to Rodgers.

1669
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell did. He does consider Rogers a good friend.

1670
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: They've known each other for twenty years, and he made

1671
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: the time to connect with him and they had a

1672
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,839
Speaker 2: lot of dialogue about it, and he said, we can't

1673
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: do just what's best for the present of the Minnesota

1674
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: Vikings organization, but the future as well, and so he

1675
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: was honest about that. He believes he's got a real

1676
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: obligation JJ McCarthy, or check that. Kevin O'Connor does. To

1677
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy him the best possible situation to begin and

1678
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: thrive and get his NFL journey going. And they went

1679
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: to Minnesota went fourteen and three with Sam Darnol last year,

1680
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 2: and McCarthy will be promoted. He'll fill that void. McConnell

1681
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: already said he's having a great spring. They've got a

1682
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: he had a great offseason. He's healthy, throwing the ball great.

1683
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 2: Here you go. They're going to run it back with

1684
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy I think that's a coging explanation, which I

1685
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: think is one of the reasons why a lot of

1686
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: the people, including Ryan Clark and uh, you know, Ryan

1687
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Clark is a longtime Steeler, respected Steeler, and he just

1688
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: has a penchant now for giving his opinion when no

1689
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: one asks for it. And he said this is a

1690
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: disaster signing for the Steelers now. To be fair, Rodgers

1691
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: did or check that. Ryan Clark did admit he'll make

1692
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: the Rogers, will make the Steelers better, But you know,

1693
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: it's it's a one year deal. And by the way,

1694
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: for anybody that thinks Rogers are going to be there

1695
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: more than one year, I'm not buying it. I'm not

1696
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: buying it. Which is one of the things that pisses

1697
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Clark off that if the Steelers play just well

1698
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: enough this year to put themselves in a position where

1699
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: they can't draft quote a franchise player, a franchise quarterback,

1700
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: that's going to hurt them. I never get too excited

1701
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: about draft choices. They're always theoretical. It's basically capital you

1702
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: haven't proven anything yet, you don't know the failure rate

1703
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 2: of first round of quarterbacks is high. So let's pump

1704
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: the brakes on that. Let's see what the Steelers do

1705
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: this year. Rogers give the Steelers the best chance to

1706
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: win this year, So let's steal with the facts. They

1707
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,480
Speaker 2: are objective truths, and there are personal feelings the situation

1708
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 2: around Aaron Rodgers, and largely.

1709
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 3: Most of this is his own doing.

1710
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: Typically it revolves around emotional opinions, basically based on subjectivity

1711
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: because they don't.

1712
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: Like the guy, and I get that.

1713
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: I get that. But the Steelers are a business, okay,

1714
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: and they're in the business of winning football games. They

1715
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: wont ten last year. But the guy can't read a

1716
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: defense and can't find wide open receivers, and he's late

1717
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: and he's not accurate. He's a world class human being

1718
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: and a fast runner. They couldn't wait to get rid

1719
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: of him, and they did Russell Wilson. He ends up

1720
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: with the New York Giants that cand have won ten games.

1721
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: I think Steelers have upgraded at wide receiver, at running

1722
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: back and now quarterback. How many win games are gonna win?

1723
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know is Rogers is going to be healthy,

1724
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: which is one of the questions. All Right, he's going

1725
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: to turn forty two in December, there's no question he's

1726
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 2: going to start. Okay. He threw for about four thousand

1727
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: yards last year, just under twenty nine touchdowns, eleven interceptions,

1728
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: and he just never really recovered from the stigma of

1729
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: the physicality that from the achilles in Week one and

1730
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. And look, what are you getting. Are

1731
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 2: you getting the guy who was a four time league

1732
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: MVP who's motivated or are you getting a guy who

1733
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 2: maybe means well but we don't know how much he

1734
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 2: has left the inn. There's no way you can know

1735
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: that until the NFL season starts. So is this a

1736
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: good move for Pittsburgh? They didn't really have a lot

1737
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: of other obvious solutions at quarterback.

1738
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 3: Does Rogers fit that offense?

1739
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Does he stabilize the Steelers and their ability to score

1740
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: points and win games? So how much of an impact

1741
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: is this decision're gonna have on the Steelers short term

1742
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: and long term? It's being highly critical, Okay, people have

1743
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 2: been highly critical of it. I I you know, we're

1744
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: gonna look up twelve months from now and it's fifty

1745
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: to fifty whether the Steelers had a lost season that

1746
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: ended in disappointment. But you can't if you set aside

1747
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 2: your personal feelings for Aaron Rodgers.

1748
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1749
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: The only season that matters right now in Pittsburgh, for

1750
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: any NFL franchise for that matter, is this season. The

1751
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: future is now, So this was not an irrational choice

1752
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: for the Steelers. The outcome is not the point. You can't.

1753
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: You can't. You can plan everything about the outcome. That's

1754
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: a beauty of sports, right, the greatest reality show, and

1755
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: you can script everything, but the outcome. Rogers, I believe

1756
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 2: has some upside. How much is left we don't know.

1757
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 2: He showed flashes and then there were games where he didn't.

1758
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 2: I think the culture is going to be good, all right.

1759
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: It's been you know, four years since Rogers had a

1760
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: QBR of above seventy five. He led the league in

1761
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: that category, and he won the MVP in twenty twenty one.

1762
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: For context, the last time Russell Wilson hit that mark

1763
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: was fourteen years ago in his rookie season. Did you

1764
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: really want Kirk Cousins? With all due respect to Kirk Cousins,

1765
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: he does everything but win. Atlanta couldn't wait to get

1766
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: rid of him. Washington, Minnesota. When the heat, you know,

1767
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 2: when the heat gets hot, it's hard to breathe. And

1768
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: you need someone to make a key play to win

1769
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: a big game, it won't be Kirk Cousins. If you

1770
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: want a guy who's a serviceable passer, who's put up

1771
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: a ton of numbers in the meaningless what I call

1772
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 2: Yogi Bear stats in the in the UH, in the

1773
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 2: National Football League. And if you don't know what that means,

1774
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: there was a time Yogi Bear actually once went four

1775
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: for four against the Boston Red Sox. The next day

1776
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: in the in the in the box score of the

1777
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: New York Times, it showed.

1778
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: That he went three for four. Yogi was living.

1779
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: He called the sports thatt or of the New York

1780
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: Times said, what are you doing? Man?

1781
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 3: I went four for four yesterday?

1782
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Uh? And and the editors relaxed. Yogi was a type

1783
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: of graphical error. He said, what do you mean that? Last?

1784
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 2: It was a clean single up? The middle bottom line

1785
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: is sometimes stats aren't they don't contribute to win, They're

1786
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: they're empty stats.

1787
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 6: Uh.

1788
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: You know, Russell Westbrook, Mark, you know, insert your own

1789
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook comment there. He's put up tons of staff,

1790
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: never won a damn thing. All right, here's the reality, though,

1791
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: as poorly as Aaron Rodgers played last season. If you're

1792
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 2: asking me who's got a better chance of Rogers being

1793
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: a top ten quarterback this season, Rogers or Russell Wilson,

1794
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,879
Speaker 2: I'm picking Rogers. Rogers or Kirk Cousin. I'm picking Rogers.

1795
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: Rogers or Mason Rudolph. I'm picking Rogers, all right. I

1796
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: know he's coming off a bad twenty twenty four season,

1797
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: but the optimism for the Steelers is he really wasn't

1798
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: fully healed by the torn achilles that knocked him out

1799
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: not only for the entire twenty twenty three season. But

1800
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: let's you know, he looked a little bit more mobile

1801
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. But you know they keep all

1802
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 2: these advanced metrics in the National Football League, and of

1803
01:29:55,280 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 2: his thirty fastest top speed plays this season, those came

1804
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 2: after a week thirteen. That's according to NFL Next Gen stats,

1805
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: all right, So that shows as he got stronger and stronger,

1806
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 2: he perhaps became more effective. But you also have to

1807
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: juxtapose that that his career art has been poor since

1808
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: his last year in Green Bay, which you also did

1809
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: not have a good season. All right. The other thing

1810
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: is how much, say, is Rogers going to have in

1811
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 2: the offense as he had with the Jets now. For instance,

1812
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: when he was back in Green Bay under Mattlefleur, he

1813
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: used a lot of play action and motion and much

1814
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: more than the Jets did. It didn't work well with

1815
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 2: the Jets. Now Pittsburgh has an offensive coordinator by the

1816
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 2: name of Arthur Smith. He runs play action pass maybe

1817
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: a quarter of the time, which actually is a lot

1818
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 2: that's tenth most, but not a lot of motion plays

1819
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 2: twenty eight the Jets offense basically it was predicated on

1820
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: receivers going north and south. The Jets, you know, they

1821
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: ran a lot of short fades, hitches, go routes. That's

1822
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 2: not what the Steelers typically do. But where the Steelers,

1823
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: I think have found a guy that might solve the

1824
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 2: problem for at least one year.

1825
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: He's Pittsburgh does.

1826
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: Have the culture, They do have a roster, They do

1827
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: have an infrastructure and leadership that can perhaps if whatever

1828
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: Rogers upside is left, they can bring it out of him.

1829
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: Why Pittsburgh does have a potentially great defense they ranked

1830
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 2: tenth in EPA for play last season, But there actually

1831
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: can be better than that. You give me a healthy TJ. Watt,

1832
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: Alex high Smith Cam Hayward, Nick Krbig. The Steelers have

1833
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 2: a tremendous pass rush and the good secondary with Joey

1834
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Porter Jr. They picked up Darius Slay Micka Fitzpatrick, So

1835
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: that's a defense. They can play complimentary football. That's a fact.

1836
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 2: You get the ball back for Aaron Rodgers. Let Aaron

1837
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Rodgers go to work in his career on third down

1838
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter in the red zone, Rogers have

1839
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 2: been pretty good. That's how you agree a quarterback. Also,

1840
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: the Steelers actually ranked thirteenth and pass block win rate

1841
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: last season, and you'll take that because that's better than

1842
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 2: what the Jets were. You have a good wide receiver

1843
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 2: in DK Metcalf. I think did George Pickens trade to

1844
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Dallas might be additioned by subtraction. We don't know, but

1845
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 2: Rogers certainly could use a second wide receiver behind DK Metcalf.

1846
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 2: And I don't really know what that depth chart looks

1847
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 2: like at this point. You know, Mike Tomlin gets bashed

1848
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: a lot. I get it. He's you know, hasn't gone

1849
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: to the playoffs in eight years. Fair, but you know

1850
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers are a.

1851
01:32:58,560 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 3: Check that he has won a playoff.

1852
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: You're sorry, but look, they've had three coaches in nineteen

1853
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,919
Speaker 2: sixty nine, Chuck Nole, Bill Kauer, and now.

1854
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 3: Mike Comlin. So if you let him go, who you

1855
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 3: bring it in?

1856
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 2: And that's not a question I care to get into tonight.

1857
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 2: So Rogers is gonna get his thirteen point six million,

1858
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: He's got a chance to maybe earn nineteen million. What

1859
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: does that mean. Well, it's gonna be predicated on actually

1860
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 2: team goals and playing time. So if Rodgers gets hurt

1861
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: or he can't in, you know, earn those bonuses, if

1862
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: he's not on the field, it's gonna be more predicated

1863
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 2: on them winning games. But again, as you heard me

1864
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: say earlier, Steelers won ten games last year with you

1865
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: know this, the Afield's Russell Wilson tandem, and they won

1866
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, nine games a year before with Kenny Pickett.

1867
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 2: So look, am I predicting a deep playoff run for

1868
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers?

1869
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not.

1870
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 2: But but this might make uncomfortable sense in Pittsburgh, but

1871
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 2: it makes sense. Do I think taken win ten games? Absolutely,

1872
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 2: yes I do. So that's going to be predicated on this,

1873
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: whether or not the offense the Steelers run, does it

1874
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: fit Aaron Rodgers talents. Okay, will will he run what

1875
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith wants him to run? Will he do it

1876
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: gladly and unwillingly or willingly? Or when he was with

1877
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 2: the Jets, Rogers did a lot of things unwillingly. And look,

1878
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: you have a couple of issues that I'm going to

1879
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 2: point out right now that are possible.

1880
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith has presented.

1881
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 2: He's the coordinator offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's

1882
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 2: been in oc in Tennessee, Atlanta, and now Pittsburgh. He

1883
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 2: realized heavily on play action passes from under center. But

1884
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: Rogers doesn't necessarily like to turn his back to the defenses.

1885
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: He drops back to pass. Is that a sign also

1886
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 2: that his mobility is diminishing and he admits it? Or

1887
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: is that just how he wants to play? Dk Metcalf

1888
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: he is a premier receiver, He's a premier playmaker. He's

1889
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:24,759
Speaker 2: not a type of guy who runs great, precise, crisp routes.

1890
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: No one is going to confuse DK Metcalf with being

1891
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 2: one of the great route runners in the NFL. Rogers,

1892
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: that's an eneughma to Aaron Rodgers. He wants damn near

1893
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: perfection from his receivers. And when you run a route,

1894
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: you better be on time. You better you have your

1895
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, beyond your p's and q's. So you tell

1896
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 2: me if they're gonna be able to go seventeen games,

1897
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 2: but there's not at least one dust up between Rogers

1898
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 2: and DK Metcalf, and how you know they're gonna be

1899
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 2: to be able to you know, glue that back together

1900
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: if that happens. So look, no one is saying this

1901
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: is a perfect fit. You've got the opportunity for personalities

1902
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 2: to class. You got the opportunity for Aaron Rodgers and

1903
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 2: the idiosyncratic Rogers to you know, but I'm sorry, he's

1904
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 2: an upgrade over Russell Wilson or specifically justin Fields. I

1905
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: think you're gonna have a higher ceiling. I think you're

1906
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 2: gonna have more peak offensive outbursts. The question is will

1907
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 2: it be sustainable over the year and if they will

1908
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, will it translate to the playoffs? And

1909
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: that's exactly why this is going to be must see TV.

1910
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 2: You cannot tell me you're not watching again. There are

1911
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 2: people who like Aaron Rodgers. There are people who hate

1912
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. We on one car set. I don't root

1913
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 2: for people to fail. On the car set, I wish

1914
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 2: I was that classy. I will root for him to fail.

1915
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 2: The opposite of love is not hate, its indifference. And

1916
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: rogers signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers has been largely panned.

1917
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to do is remove, you know.

1918
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,440
Speaker 2: Subjectivity and emotion and replace him with objectivity.

1919
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 3: This was born in necessity.

1920
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Rogers did not want to go out like he went

1921
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 2: out last year. He's got to capture that one last

1922
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 2: graft glory and whatever the roster the Steelers put around him,

1923
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 2: that's what he's going to have to play with. He's

1924
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 2: gonna have to play the hand he's dealt. And by

1925
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: the way, this is out of necessity for the Steelers too.

1926
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think you were going to go to

1927
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs with Mason Rudolph. All right, again, this isn't

1928
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 2: the first time an aging quarterback has wanted one last

1929
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 2: bite at the apple. Remember after Brett fav left the Jets,

1930
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 2: he went to the Vikings, Warren Moon went to Seattle,

1931
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer went to Arizona, and then the Raiders drew

1932
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: Bledsoe Dallas even Russell Wilson's going to New York Giants.

1933
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 2: Not all those outcomes were bad, but the common thread

1934
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 2: of all those, the common denominator of all those, is

1935
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 2: that each one of those franchises needed something in the

1936
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,879
Speaker 2: present to get them through to maybe the next stage.

1937
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 2: Because none of those teams were in a full bowl

1938
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: and rebuild, and Pittsburgh certainly mounted a rebuild. They're missing

1939
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 2: a quarterback, Okay, so the question will be is he

1940
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 2: tarnishing his resume, is he indulging his ego? Or is

1941
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: he gonna help them win games? Speaking of another major

1942
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 2: deal this week, Tom Thibodeaux was fired, and I thought

1943
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: that Mark Bedino brought up some good points. He was

1944
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: against it. So let's look at this subjectively. The Knicks

1945
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 2: might just get themselves a reminder the grass isn't always greener.

1946
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 2: I'll bring receipts. I'm Bernie Frattle will come to your

1947
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: line from Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked.

1948
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1949
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1950
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1951
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1952
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1953
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Speaker 2: Right back on the Burning Fattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

1954
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 2: In addition all the big stories this week, one of

1955
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: the bigger ones was a firing in New York and well,

1956
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 2: the move was I think a massive surprise. I don't

1957
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: know anybody that predicted this, considering the fact that the Knicks,

1958
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 2: You're coming off of fifty one win regular season, which

1959
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: happens to be the team's highest win total in over

1960
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 2: a decade, a deep playoff run, and a statement was issued.

1961
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 2: I guess it was what June, twid June, or whatever

1962
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 2: the day was.

1963
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 3: I'll read it.

1964
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what the Knicks said quote. Our organization

1965
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: is singularly focused on winning a champion for our fans.

1966
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: This pursuit led us to the difficult decision to inform

1967
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau that we've decided to move in another direction,

1968
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 2: said Nick's president Leon Rose. We can't thank Tom enough

1969
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 2: for pouring his heart and soul into each and every day.

1970
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 2: Bah bah okay, glass professionalism, bop, buppup up boot ball. Okay.

1971
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 2: He'll always be a part of the ex family. We

1972
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 2: truly wish him nothing but the best. Okay, thank you,

1973
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 2: Thank you. That was right out of journalism one on

1974
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 2: one how to write a press release. I have no

1975
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 2: idea how much of that they meant. I do know this,

1976
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 2: he just signed it. Thibodeau just signed an extension in

1977
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 2: New York as recently as last year. The team still

1978
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 2: owes him thirty million dollars. So what the hell happened here?

1979
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 2: And before we dive into that, I think this has

1980
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,759
Speaker 2: to be given some context. You see, because Tom Thibodeau

1981
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: joined the team one twenty twenty, and the eight years

1982
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 2: before Thibodeau is there, the Knicks had Mike Woodson, Derek Fisher,

1983
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Kurt Rambits, Jeff Horncheck, David Fizdale. Remember the phizz You're

1984
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 2: not got a rugby man? Remember the press conference? Yeah,

1985
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 2: and Mike Miller combined eight years, two hundred and thirty

1986
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: eight regular season wins. But in five years Tom Thibodeau

1987
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: had two hundred and twenty six regular season wins. But

1988
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: it's a revolving door coach coaches in New York. And

1989
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 2: now Tom Thibodeau is out again. Remember they relieved Thibodeau

1990
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 2: of his duties just a couple of days after the

1991
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 2: team reached the Eastern conference finals for the first time

1992
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 2: in twenty five years, and I get it, they failed

1993
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 2: to advance to the finals. One theory is once they

1994
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 2: got to the conference finals, expectations rose because the goal

1995
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: is winning a championship, and of course now the obligatory.

1996
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 2: He needed a new voice and this was the first

1997
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 2: step in the process of reaching those heights. Okay, the

1998
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,799
Speaker 2: issue has made at the highest levels. Obviously team president

1999
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Leon Rose, and he had the full backing of the owner,

2000
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 2: James Dolan. But there's other things here. Okay, again, is

2001
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: the grass greener? Who were they? We don't know who

2002
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 2: the Knicks are going to hire. I'm gonna guess it's

2003
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd if Dallas lets him out to talk. But

2004
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: when you fire a coach that hasn't done something that

2005
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 2: the team hasn't done in a quarter of a century,

2006
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 2: and the Knicks are actually relevant again, and you have

2007
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 2: to give Tom Thibodeau for at least creating the culture

2008
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 2: that built this fireball that made the next relevant.

2009
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 3: Now it remains to be seen if the Knicks learned.

2010
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: The hard way. The grass isn't always greener again. Dibbodeou

2011
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 2: led the Knicks to back to back fifty win seasons

2012
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: that hadn't happened in thirty years. The Knicks were led

2013
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 2: under Tom Thibodeau to the conference semi finals three years

2014
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: in a row that hadn't.

2015
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: Happened in twenty five years.

2016
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 2: The Knicks actually, believe it or not, had the fifth

2017
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: best offense in the NBA in the eighths best next

2018
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 2: net rating. The team was basically glued together one day

2019
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 2: before training camp and they became one of the final

2020
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 2: four teams standing. And the guy who was the protagonist,

2021
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 2: the guy who was the architect, I think of what

2022
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 2: the you know, he's not the GM, but he's the

2023
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 2: guy who took the ingredients and the recipe and built

2024
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 2: the Knicks into what they were is gone now. By

2025
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 2: the way, right after the next loss, they asked Jalen Brunson,

2026
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 2: who's clearly the star of the team. He was very

2027
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 2: he did not equivocate in any way. After the next

2028
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 2: season ended, he said Thibodeau is the right man for

2029
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 2: this job going forward. I mean, you saw the press

2030
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 2: conference as the reporter asked him and really pissed Brunt

2031
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 2: them off, because that a real question right now? Did

2032
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 2: you just ask me if I believe he's the right guy. Yes.

2033
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 2: Now days have gone by and people are speculating.

2034
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 3: And ruminating, well, what was.

2035
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 2: His relationship with Brunson, who's actually been a terrific leader,

2036
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 2: has been a terrific player, and he's a huge part

2037
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 2: of that resurgeon. Look, no coach is perfect, TI, but

2038
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 2: it's certainly not perfect. The team had flaws, and I

2039
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 2: think that sort of became part of the NIXT charm

2040
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:36,679
Speaker 2: that they found a way to overcome them. They found

2041
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 2: a way to dethrow them the defending NBA champions. I don't

2042
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 2: want to hear anying about injury. They were winning, that

2043
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 2: they were going to win that series, all right, Their

2044
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 2: core starting group, which by the way, the front office

2045
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:52,799
Speaker 2: spent a lot of money for Brunson, Mikhale Bridges, ogn

2046
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,799
Speaker 2: and ob Josh Rt. Karl Anthony Towns, well, Karl Anthony

2047
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 2: Towns actually had a negative net rating for most of

2048
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: the regular season through the playoffs, but they never really

2049
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 2: truly maximized their offensive firepower and perhaps therein lies of

2050
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 2: the rub particularly the second half of the season, and

2051
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 2: I think that's where the owner and the president said

2052
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 2: that falls on Tom Thibodeau. I also think that There

2053
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 2: were questions about Thibodau's reluctance to play his bench, But

2054
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 2: you know what was the reason behind that, Well, they

2055
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of inspiring bench pieces, did they.

2056
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson missed most of the regular season due to injury,

2057
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 2: but once he got back, he was a key unit

2058
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But if you look at New York

2059
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 2: second unit, it's primarily journeymen in late draft picks. That's

2060
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: not debatable. That's a fact. Thibodeau also, as he did

2061
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 2: in Chicago and other places Minnesota, received a lot of

2062
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 2: grief and a lot of criticism for playing his starters

2063
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 2: too many minutes. The starting group during the regular season

2064
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: played more minutes than any five man unit in the

2065
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: NBA during the regular season.

2066
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 3: Bridges and Heart number one and number.

2067
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 2: Two minutes played during the regular season ANOBI ranked eighth.

2068
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 2: With that said, somehow the Knicks got through the regular

2069
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 2: season without any major injuries. Brunson was the only one

2070
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 2: who missed some time because he turned his ankle, but

2071
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 2: New York's core guys were when they got to the

2072
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: playoffs still standing and the team did not lose because

2073
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 2: of health issues. Now I understand there was some friction

2074
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 2: earlier in the year between Tom Thibodeau and mckille Bridges

2075
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: because Bridges did speak out publicly about the starters playing

2076
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: too many minutes. This is a big risk for the Knicks. Okay,

2077
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 2: they've they've been making big risks. They made trades for

2078
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 2: McHale Bridges and Karl Anthony Towns, and now you fired

2079
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau and these This is financial investment, this is

2080
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:01,639
Speaker 2: draft capital, This is risky. The stability that Thibodeau basically

2081
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 2: had brought the last five years, and above all of it,

2082
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 2: after all these years of the Knicks being a punchline,

2083
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 2: they finally had some good pr When you talked about

2084
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 2: the Knicks, it was not off the court, boloney, it

2085
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: was basketball related. They appeared to be heading in the

2086
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: right direction. And Tom Thibodeau clearly had a lot to

2087
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 2: do with that. Look. I understand you got to set

2088
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 2: a high bar, but after what happened, this just feels

2089
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 2: a little weird. The timing feels weird. The franchise had momentum,

2090
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 2: they were irrelevant. They've done things they hadn't done in

2091
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 2: thirty years or twenty five years. I think Thibodeau deserved

2092
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 2: one more season for no other reason that he's the

2093
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 2: guy that brought them back to relevancy. Shouldn't he have

2094
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:53,799
Speaker 2: gotten Tom? Shouldn't Thibodeau have gotten one more shot? But listen,

2095
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: the boss signs the checks and the boss of signs.

2096
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 15: Uh.

2097
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 3: You know who gets a show and who does it?

2098
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: I think you know it did hurt Tom Thibodeau a

2099
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 2: bit after falling behind two in the series. They couldn't

2100
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: battle all the way back. They did win game three,

2101
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: they didn't win game five, but they lost in six games,

2102
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 2: just two games, two games short of an appearance in

2103
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. Now, if you'd asked Knicks fans back

2104
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 2: in October, you're gonna look into a crystal ball. You're

2105
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 2: gonna get within two games of the NBA Finals, would

2106
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 2: you take that? I think most of them would have

2107
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 2: signed up for believing it's a builder, building a building

2108
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 2: block for heading into the next year in the future.

2109
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 2: And somebody would have told you back in October, Yeah,

2110
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna get within two games of the finals. You're

2111
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 2: gonna win fifty games again, You're gonna have the eighth

2112
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 2: three aded offense, and Thibodau is gonna get fired. There's

2113
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 2: one other thing too. When you hire a coach, you

2114
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 2: want to prove in Bobby or obviously right well, Thibodeau

2115
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 2: was hired right before the start of the twenty twenty

2116
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 2: twenty season, the year after the bubble, and the team

2117
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 2: showed tremendous improvement under Tom Thibodeaux right out of the gate.

2118
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 2: The team had a three eighteen winning percentage the year

2119
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 2: before Thibodeau was there, and they had a five to

2120
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 2: sixty nine winning percentage the first year Thibodeau was there.

2121
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: They even made the playoffs for the first time in

2122
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 2: nine years, even though they got beat by the Atlanta Hawks.

2123
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,560
Speaker 2: Then they had some regression, but then they made the

2124
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 2: playoffs the next three seasons, got knocked out twice in

2125
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference semi finals before getting the.

2126
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Conference finals this year.

2127
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 2: As a career as a body of work, Tom Thibodeau

2128
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 2: is fifty two games over five hundred with the Knicks

2129
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 2: record of five to sixty five. Only three coaches in

2130
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 2: the history of the New York Knicks going back eighty

2131
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 2: years have won more games. And again, you know that

2132
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Speaker 2: Thibodeaux had experience with the Bulls Minnesota, Timber Wolves. He

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01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 2: had a very six unful run in Chicago, led the

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Speaker 2: team to playoff appearances every year he he was there

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Speaker 2: for the five years he was there, then all the

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Speaker 2: way to the Eastern Conference Finals in Thibodeau's first season

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01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 2: and lost to Miami when they were fifty to thirty two.

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Speaker 2: After the twenty fifteen season, the Bulls fired him, even

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Speaker 2: though they had a six forty seven to winning percentage

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Speaker 2: with the franchise. The Timberwolves wasted no time snapping up

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01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau had a rough first season, but then let

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Speaker 2: Minnesota to their first playoff appearance in fourteen years. But

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01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 2: then the team regressed and Thibodeau had an exit. All

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Speaker 2: in all, Thibodeau's won just one a six hundred games

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01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: as a head coach in the NBA. He's been the

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01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: NBA Coach of the Year twice. He's one hundred and

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01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 2: sixty games over five hundred in his career. Might Tom

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Speaker 2: Thibodeau be a highly sought after option on the free

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01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 2: agent market? I do understand they're telling us Thibodeau has

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01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: seemingly worn out as welcome with three separate franchises, but

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01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 2: his team seem to get results quickly, and despite his

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01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 2: regular season excellence, well, Thibodeau's searching for that first elusive

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01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: ever NBA championship as a head coach. Will he get

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01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,719
Speaker 2: a another chance to coach in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I'm certain of it.

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01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 2: I don't know when, maybe not next year, but he will.

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01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 2: The question is who are the Knicks going to hire?

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01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:25,879
Speaker 2: And that will that will be talked about and debated.

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01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 2: And I don't think they're in a hurry make a decision,

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01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 2: but I think they'll have to hear before the draft,

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01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 2: right and within three weeks fair enough. And look, one

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01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 2: of the things I don't want to go into tonight

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01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: is now that the dust has settled and the shot

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01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 2: has worn off, apparently some players have coming out and

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01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 2: they've complained you didn't develop the bench the way other

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01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 2: coaches should have.

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01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 3: Other players complained about playing.

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Speaker 2: To me minutes the same things, and you know, but

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01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 2: you don't fire a guy with three years, some thirty

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01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 2: million on a contract because you're losing the conference finals.

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01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 2: Somebody wanted them to, and just the timing and the

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01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 2: whole thing is odd to me. But it raises another question.

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01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 2: As you watch these NBA finals, I've got a thought

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Speaker 2: want to I want to advance. Remember the era of

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Speaker 2: the NBA Super Team? Is that era over? Yeah? I

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01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 2: kind of think it is coming up. I'm gonna share why,

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Speaker 2: and yes, I will bring receipts. By the way, shortly

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Speaker 2: after the show tonight, our podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio the

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Speaker 2: They tell me to read that, so I'm gonna read

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Speaker 2: it again, Jeff. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcast. Sea tonight show posted right after we get

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Speaker 2: off the air. By the way, for the best pregame

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Speaker 2: show every weekend, be sure to tune into Fox Sports

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2189
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Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Coming up is the NBA Era of the

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01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 2: Super Team officially over. Oh yeah it is, and I

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01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: got proof.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bernie Frattle.

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Speaker 2: We are company line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Keep it locked you listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Back on the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fradiles Show, Fox Sports Radio. Coming to live from the

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Speaker 2: diirect dot Com studios here in Las Vegas, just twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes away from the Dance Sensation sweep of the nation.

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01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool you followed by? What

2204
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 2: my name? Ah? No one can write the history of

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01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA season without

2206
01:53:55,640 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: perhaps even leading a big trade that was so outrageously

2207
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 2: sensational last February that no one believed it. They thought

2208
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 2: it was I thought we were being scammed.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Talking about Luka Doncic's traded the Lakers. That is well,

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01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 2: it's I compared it to the you know, the Kareem

2212
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Abdul Jabbar trade from the Bucks to the Lakers, basically

2213
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 2: fifty years earlier. Because Lucas probably going to be a

2214
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. I don't if you'll ever win. But

2215
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 2: that's not the point. This shocked people, and it's going

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01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 2: to have ramifications for years to come. As a matter

2217
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 2: of fact, that the only trade I can think of

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01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 2: that was really met with such crazy headlines in recent

2219
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 2: times is when the Warriors signed Kevin Durant back in

2220
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 2: the summer of twenty sixteen. Now see here's why that

2221
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 2: trade turned heads Durant had already been a former MVP,

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01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 2: and he was going to a team that had actually

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01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 2: won seventy three games the year before. And that only

2224
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 2: had Golden State won seventy three games the year before,

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01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 2: they'd already proved they could win a title with their

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01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 2: current core. Now I think Kevin Durant is a brilliant player. Well,

2227
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 2: why would a seventy three win team need to sign

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01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant when they'd already won championships? You see, from

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01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 2: twenty to fifteen to twenty nineteen, Golden State made five

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01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 2: straight finals and won three championships, two with Durant as

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01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 2: the finals MVV. What that signing did was create change

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01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 2: in the league's collective bargaining agreement. See, the Warriors were

2233
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: able to sign Durant that year because the salary cap

2234
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 2: jumped more than thirty percent in twenty sixteen, which happened

2235
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 2: to coincide with the new media rights deal. Now jump

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01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three, the Collective Bargaining Agreement added caps

2237
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: mooving that limits the year over year salary cap jumped

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01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 2: to ten percent. That rule has changed the way high

2239
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 2: profile players jump from team to team and free agency.

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01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 2: It's dropped quite a bit Now trade requests are always

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01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 2: going to be prevalent. That's going to continue to happen.

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01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: The most impactful player to leave his franchise and free

2243
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 2: agency in the last two years was probably Fred van Vlie

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01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 2: who won to turn it. We won a championship with

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01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 2: Toronto back in twenty nineteen. Now the CBA, the new

2246
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 2: CBA also includes something called aprons. Now what those are

2247
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 2: simply to a couple of additional salary thresholds above the

2248
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 2: league's soft salary cap and luxury tax. But when you

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01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 2: violate each apron, it comes with a pretty severe penalty

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 2: that really starts to limit a team's flexibility to make

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01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: roster moves on top of pretty serious monetary penalties when

2252
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 2: you exceed the luxury tax. So in the past, look

2253
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 2: if you had a team with a deep pocket donor

2254
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 2: like the Warriors and Clippers, they will just violate the

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01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 2: luxury tax and pay the penalties. Now, this two apron

2256
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 2: salary structure has been criticized quite a bit by lots

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01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: of folks, most notably NBA gms. But you see, if

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01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 2: the NBA wanted to get rid of the super team

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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 2: era and they wanted to create parody, well this two

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01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 2: apron salary structure, it was apparently just what the doctor ordered.

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01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 2: So case in point, the twenty twenty NBA Conference Finals

2262
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 2: were recent, and you know you had two teams now

2263
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 2: that never won a championship. You had Minnesota and you

2264
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 2: had Indiana. So now you got Indiana facing off against Okay, See,

2265
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 2: neither once won a championship. And guess what this is

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01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 2: now going to be the seventh consecutive season. For the

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01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 2: first time in league history, we're going to have a

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01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 2: new champion. Remember last year it was the Celtics, the

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01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 2: year before it was the Nuggets. In twenty twenty two

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01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 2: was the Warriors. In twenty twenty one, it was the Bucks,

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01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty the Lakers. You remember the Hotel California

2272
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 2: playoffs where you can check out any time you want,

2273
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 2: but you can never leave.

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01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they won the championship.

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01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm not going to diminish the Lakers for doing it,

2276
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 2: but I'll go to my rest of my days saying, look,

2277
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 2: they did it because they didn't have to travel and

2278
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 2: they had two months off before the playoffs started. Otherwise,

2279
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 2: why have they won one since? Okay, the Raptors won

2280
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 2: it in twenty nineteen, So this year the Knicks are out,

2281
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 2: they've won one in the past. The Tea Woulves are out,

2282
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 2: they haven't. Three of the four teams hadn't won. Now

2283
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 2: this is a diversity of market sizes too, but all

2284
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 2: of them have struggled to win an NBA championship. The

2285
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 2: most recent championship that you know, a conference finalist from

2286
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 2: a small month, the Seattle SuperSonics in nineteen seventy nine.

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01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 2: That was actually when the Thunder. We're still the Seattle

2288
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 2: SuperSonics if you want to count that for you, Trivia buffs.

2289
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 2: So we'll watch this the next few years about the

2290
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: long term effects of the NBA's malign salary structure, especially

2291
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 2: as the Celtics they're expecting a record payroll. Teams like

2292
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 2: the Thunder and Timberwolves they're gonna face questions about their

2293
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 2: financial sustainability of their rosters. But is the era of

2294
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 2: the NBA Super Team over yep. I think I just

2295
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 2: proved it. I brought plenty of receipts new champion, seven

2296
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 2: year in a row. Keep it locked up.

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01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 1: Next, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frannel Show

2299
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frann. We

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Speaker 2: are coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio

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01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 2: studios here in a Las Vegas, and we've come to

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Speaker 2: that time of the week. We've come to that juncture

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Speaker 2: in the show. You know what, you love it? You

2304
01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 2: can't leave without it, you see, because one said you

2305
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 2: can observe a lot by watching.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what we do.

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02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 2: Because across this great land of arms, from sea to

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Speaker 2: oily Sea, and even around the planet, well, people engage

2309
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 2: in activities. And sometimes these activities cause you to raise

2310
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 2: an eyebrow. Many times they're innocuous, stupid, silly, poor judgment.

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02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Other times, well they run to file the.

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Speaker 2: Law, can get you in serious trouble, maybe even land

2313
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:28,879
Speaker 2: you in jail. But any way you slice it, anyway,

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Speaker 2: describe it, any way you characterize it, Well, these behaviors

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02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 2: that we allude to. Well, they always leave us scratching

2316
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 2: our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new

2317
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 2: fool of you?

2318
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 1: So, what kind of brand new fool are you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we all agree that people who are

2320
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 2: late to work are annoying, and I think we all

2321
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 2: agree that the work that the TSA does is critical.

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02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 2: We agree on those two things. I know.

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02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I've always flown a lot, travel a lot.

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02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 2: Recently, in the last couple of years, my wife and

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Speaker 2: I have flying all over the place, and we're continuing

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02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 2: to do that. So we're cursonally going through TSA. And

2327
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 2: I want to wink in a nod and a tip

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Speaker 2: of the cap to the good folks at TSA who

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02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 2: do really a very good job. They really do, unless

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Speaker 2: you're late to work, which takes us to Tampa, Florida

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Speaker 2: in the case of a Miss Collier of Winterhaven. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's one thing to be late to work, but the

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02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 2: reason you're late to work, and the reason you are

2334
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 2: hot and hot water for being late to work might

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02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 2: be because of what you did. Okay, so let's take

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Speaker 2: it from the top. A Miss Collier was already on

2337
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 2: a TSA employment improvement plan because she'd had excessive tardiness.

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02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 2: I mean she was laid a lot. Well recently she

2339
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: was late to work and she reason she gave was

2340
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 2: that she hauled into the TSA Telecommunications office and said

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Speaker 2: she's gonna be late to work because well, there was

2342
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 2: a knife wielding man trying to burgilize her parents' vehicle.

2343
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 3: That was a reason.

2344
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 2: Allegedly, she even filed a police report. So when her

2345
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 2: supervisor asked her for a case number or a business

2346
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 2: card from investigators, well, Conyor said she wasn't given either.

2347
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 2: She was then asked to get a burglary report from

2348
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 2: the Sheriff's office and give it to her supervisor. The

2349
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 2: Sheriff's office said Collier texted her supervisor with a document

2350
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 2: that looked like a police report, but she was ordered

2351
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 2: to send the actual copy instead of just a picture.

2352
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 2: Well I need this to say, as I'm sure you

2353
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 2: can figure out by now, Collier never produced the copy itself.

2354
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 2: According to the police report and the detectives, the image

2355
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,680
Speaker 2: was cut off in the second page and had no

2356
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 2: incident description. When the detective saw the image, they said,

2357
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 2: this is obviously a fake PCO burglary report. Or well,

2358
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 2: that's the Polk County Sheriff's office. It was a fake,

2359
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 2: obvious fake report. By the way, deputies willing to see

2360
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 2: the caller used the name and member number of a

2361
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 2: current POLP deputy on the fake report, but the deputy

2362
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 2: was out of the country for vacation on the day

2363
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 2: of the fake burglary, so the law got compounded. Furthermore,

2364
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 2: Collier's parents said they did not know what the hell

2365
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 2: she was talking about. Their vehicle is not burglarised, according

2366
02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:32,880
Speaker 2: to the Sheriff's office, and the detectives asked Kyer about

2367
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:36,480
Speaker 2: the arm burglary. Callier Center employer contacted the Sheriff's office

2368
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 2: and she you want to talk about the situation. Well,

2369
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 2: Deputy's arrested Callyer and charges of criminal use of a

2370
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 2: personal idea and uttering a false document. Can't make this

2371
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 2: stuff up, Sheriff Judd said, I don't understand why anybody

2372
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 2: would go to the extent of creating a fake police

2373
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 2: report just to avoid a reprimanded work for tardiness. However,

2374
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 2: Callier has invited you know, has violated the late rule

2375
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 2: many many times, and now she's violated the trust of

2376
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 2: her co workers and the people she was hoping to

2377
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 2: keep safe. Well, Collier of the Florida TSA giving a

2378
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 2: fake police report and trying to get away with being late.

2379
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:26,440
Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool you? All right, Branda, you're.

2380
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 23: Up, alrighty. So we're going to head over to Perrysburg,

2381
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 23: Ohio of What County School District is investigating how a

2382
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 23: twenty four year old suspect was able to enroll in

2383
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 23: its high school posing as a teenager for more than

2384
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:45,080
Speaker 23: a year and a half.

2385
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 15: Anthony E.

2386
02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 23: Labrador Sierra it was, you know, posed as a sixteen

2387
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 23: year old and even played on the JV soccer and

2388
02:04:56,600 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 23: swim team. According to the school district, he originally had

2389
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 23: gone to the district enrolled as a sixteen year old

2390
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 23: unaccompanied unaccompanied minor under federal and state rules for students

2391
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 23: experiencing homelessness or do not have a legal guardian. He

2392
02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 23: had obtained several pieces of identification, including a driver's a license,

2393
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 23: and a social security number. They placed him in guardianship

2394
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 23: with a Perrysburg family, so they also thought that he

2395
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 23: was a minor but not actually a twenty four year

2396
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 23: old man. So the district administrations met with him and

2397
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 23: then he actually fest up to everything, and then he

2398
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 23: was barred from the school grounds. So he is being

2399
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 23: investigated on felony charges of forgery, accusing him of using

2400
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 23: fake documents to attend the high school, and he is

2401
02:05:55,520 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 23: being held on fifty thousand dollars a bail. If released,

2402
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 23: he won't be able to leave with county and he's

2403
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 23: due back in court later this month. I totally forgot

2404
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 23: his name in Labrador Sierra at Anthony Labraorcierra. What kind

2405
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 23: of brand new for are you? And why would you

2406
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 23: want to go back to high school? Like I mean,

2407
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,080
Speaker 23: I feel like, once you graduate high school, who wants

2408
02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 23: to go back to that time in your life.

2409
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 3: Six years later?

2410
02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's creepy.

2411
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 2: And our institutions are failing us. Apparently the high school

2412
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 2: missed it and the TSA worker let us down. But

2413
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 2: that's why we recall this. What kind of brand new

2414
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 2: fool are you? And by the way, I know, mister Ramsey,

2415
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: you are a very busy man. Perhaps one of these

2416
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:44,080
Speaker 2: nights might you gracious with what kind of brand new

2417
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 2: fool are you?

2418
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 3: Thoughts Mark?

2419
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 4: How about new?

2420
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 2: Alrighty, then we're moving on another rousing edition of what

2421
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool or you is in the books,

2422
02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 2: which now allows us to segue to our second favorite,

2423
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 2: which we.

2424
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 3: Refer to as what my Name?

2425
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 2: All right, So quarterbacks have been certainly a big subject

2426
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 2: matter on tonight's show. So let's start with a couple

2427
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:17,480
Speaker 2: of quarterback what my name questions and I'll try to

2428
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 2: give good clues. All Right. I mentioned that Aaron Rodgers

2429
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 2: earlier in the show was one of eight Top twenty

2430
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who will be starting a game for his third franchise.

2431
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 2: I to this day, I'm retired, but remained the only

2432
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 2: quarterback to have started at least one game for nine

2433
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 2: NFL teams.

2434
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 3: Here's a clue.

2435
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 2: I went to Harvard and I'm currently on the Thursday

2436
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaker 2: night football broadcast, Brianna, what my name?

2437
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 23: Ryan Fitzpatrick?

2438
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 3: It is Ryan Fitzpatrick.

2439
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: I was going to go with the Beard, the big

2440
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 2: giant Beard.

2441
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 23: Harvard gave it away for me.

2442
02:07:58,360 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a lot.

2443
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 2: Of starting quarterback Harvard, much less ones to go for

2444
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 2: nine years nine teams. All right, let's do another quarterback. Now,

2445
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 2: this one did not go to Harvard. He actually went

2446
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 2: to Fresno State. But he remains the only quarterback in

2447
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 2: Super Bowl history to actually win a Super Bowl and

2448
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 2: get released the next season. I played for Baltimore. Mark

2449
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 2: Ramsey went my name.

2450
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 22: I'm gonna guess.

2451
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:32,880
Speaker 4: Delfer.

2452
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 2: You got it, it's in fact Trent Delfer.

2453
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's coaching.

2454
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,960
Speaker 2: Well, he was coaching high school football in Tennessee and

2455
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 2: then he was coaching college football. And don't think that's

2456
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 2: working out so well. All right, let's move on to basketball.

2457
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 2: I have scored checked that in last year's NBA playoffs.

2458
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:58,600
Speaker 2: I actually scored more points in last year's NBA playoffs

2459
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 2: than any other player during the last year's NBA playoffs.

2460
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 3: Here's a clue.

2461
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 2: I no longer play for that team, Brianna with my

2462
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 2: name Luca. It is, in fact Luka Doncic who we've

2463
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 2: scored more points last year during the playoffs than any

2464
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 2: other player. All right, let's jump to baseball, since it

2465
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 2: is baseball season. I currently lead the major leagues with

2466
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 2: twenty six home runs. Now I can tell you Mark,

2467
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 2: HER's a good clue. It's come up in Steve de

2468
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 2: Sager's update tonight. Mark Ramsey, what my name? I play

2469
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 2: for the Seattle Mariners. I'm a left handed hitting catcher,

2470
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 2: currently lead the Major League Baseball, all of Major League

2471
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,040
Speaker 2: Baseball with twenty six home runs?

2472
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 22: Is it somebody named Raleigh?

2473
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,520
Speaker 2: It is, in fact named Raleigh cal Raley of the

2474
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:58,240
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks.

2475
02:09:58,240 --> 02:09:58,960
Speaker 6: My next.

2476
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 2: My next clue, Mark would have been, he's got a

2477
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 2: city in North Carolina named after him? Okay, moving on,

2478
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 2: all right, back to basketball, since the playoffs are going

2479
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 2: on to this day, in the history of the National

2480
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 2: Basketball Association, I'm the winningest NBA head coach with a

2481
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:27,040
Speaker 2: total of two hundred and twenty nine playoff wins. I'm

2482
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 2: the winningest head coach in playoff wins in the history

2483
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 2: of the NBA with two and twenty nine, most of

2484
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 2: them with two different franchises, Brianna with my name.

2485
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 23: Can I get a clue on one of the teams?

2486
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:42,440
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2487
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely. The first one was the.

2488
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 1: Chicago bull Okay, so Phil Jackson, Phil.

2489
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 2: Jackson, Phil Jackson is the answer, and of course the

2490
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 2: Lakers were the other franchise. All right, moving along, Among

2491
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 2: active NBA coaches, I've got the most playoff wins with

2492
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen. Now I'm still active, but my

2493
02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 2: team did not do so well in the playoffs this year.

2494
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 2: I will give you a clue. Mark, He's certainly he's

2495
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 2: currently coaching in the Eastern Conference and it's considered a

2496
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:25,560
Speaker 2: big underachiever. In Game seven's Mark Ramsey. What my name?

2497
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 6: I'm guessing?

2498
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 24: Can I have a clue?

2499
02:11:31,240 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 2: I was thinking give another clue? Name is Glenn, but

2500
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't go by Glenn.

2501
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 1: Oh, Doc Rivers?

2502
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 2: Very good, Mark, very good? All right, last one.

2503
02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna go back to baseball.

2504
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 2: And uh uh, this might be my favorite question tonight,

2505
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:52,200
Speaker 2: actually because it's kind of a true What my name Trivia?

2506
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:59,320
Speaker 2: As a pitcher in the history of Dodger Stadium all pitchers,

2507
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 2: I've struck out more hitters as a pitcher while pitching

2508
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium than any other player in Major League

2509
02:12:06,200 --> 02:12:10,360
Speaker 2: Baseball history. Now here's a clue. It's actually, I think

2510
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:15,120
Speaker 2: a good clue. Same high school baseball team as Matt Stafford.

2511
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:16,520
Speaker 3: Brianna, What my name is?

2512
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw? And if I had a nickel for every

2513
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:25,080
Speaker 2: time somebody every time Matt Stafford, you know, I have

2514
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:27,160
Speaker 2: my own private jet with twenty four to seven access.

2515
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 2: All right, great job on what my name? Mark? And Brianna?

2516
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 2: And certainly what kind of brand new fool of you

2517
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 2: and other rousing editions are in the books. By the way,

2518
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 2: you can stream this show and all of our Fox

2519
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the

2520
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 2: new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio

2521
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:50,560
Speaker 2: in the app to streams live. And one of the

2522
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:53,000
Speaker 2: newest features in the app is that you can select

2523
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets. You just

2524
02:12:57,080 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 2: like the presets on a radio dial, so be sure

2525
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 2: to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app will

2526
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 2: always pop up on the.

2527
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:07,840
Speaker 3: Top ears green.

2528
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 2: By the way, quick side note, you know baseball is

2529
02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 2: as popular as ever and what if I told you

2530
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:18,320
Speaker 2: that their ratings have jumped so well this year. Fox

2531
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:21,879
Speaker 2: is up ten percent. ESPN hits an eight year high.

2532
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 2: And not only are are major League teams drawing at

2533
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 2: record numbers, the turnstiles are up right big increases year.

2534
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:35,560
Speaker 2: Fans are also tuning into game broadcasts and greater numbers

2535
02:13:35,560 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 2: in the league said just this last week that all

2536
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:42,879
Speaker 2: of its national TV partners, well, they are currently posting

2537
02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:47,480
Speaker 2: audience increases. You want the individual talenties here they are.

2538
02:13:48,240 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 2: Fox is up ten percent compared to last year. They're

2539
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 2: averaging almost one point nine million viewers per game. ESPN,

2540
02:13:57,600 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 2: despite the fact that they've announced that they're going to

2541
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:02,480
Speaker 2: want walk away three years early from their NBA checked

2542
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:06,000
Speaker 2: at their MLB rights contract e SPTE is actually up

2543
02:14:06,800 --> 02:14:10,760
Speaker 2: twenty two percent from last year their game average of

2544
02:14:10,840 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 2: one point seventy five million. This is their best network

2545
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:20,160
Speaker 2: audience since twenty seventeen. Here's where it's really going crazy,

2546
02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:23,480
Speaker 2: and I think we all know why. In Japan, Major

2547
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:26,320
Speaker 2: League Baseball viewership has grown twenty two percent to an

2548
02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 2: average audience of two point seven million per game, even

2549
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:35,040
Speaker 2: if you exclude the Tokyo Series in March, which the

2550
02:14:35,160 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 2: Dodgers in showge opened up in Japan. Now because of

2551
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:42,200
Speaker 2: the time zone differences, actually most Major League Baseball games

2552
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:45,400
Speaker 2: air in the morning at Japan, and they're drawn bananas.

2553
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:49,320
Speaker 2: Double digit percentage increases have also been posted for viewership

2554
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:55,640
Speaker 2: on other platforms, including MLBtv, MLB Network Showcase, and the

2555
02:14:55,720 --> 02:15:00,800
Speaker 2: Tuesday night games on TBS. So when you consider that

2556
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:05,120
Speaker 2: the two point seven million viewers that ESPN is getting

2557
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:08,480
Speaker 2: on Sunday night on three point one million they got

2558
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:12,600
Speaker 2: last Sunday for the high profile Yankee Dodger series that

2559
02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:15,520
Speaker 2: was a rematch of I guess the twenty twenty fourth series.

2560
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:20,680
Speaker 2: This viewership is not only on the aggregate up, but

2561
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:24,880
Speaker 2: it's also going up when you have these you know,

2562
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:28,800
Speaker 2: primetime showcase games, and that's not always easy to do.

2563
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about thank you, Herm Edwards. We

2564
02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:38,400
Speaker 2: talked about this, excuse me earlier because the Caitlin Clark

2565
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:44,080
Speaker 2: game that didn't materialize Saturday night, well, that game drew

2566
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 2: two point eight million viewers May twentieth, when the Sky

2567
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:52,800
Speaker 2: played the nn fever. Now we don't know what the

2568
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:56,800
Speaker 2: game drew Saturday night. I guarantee it was much less guarantee,

2569
02:15:57,080 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 2: but had Caitlin Clark played, to increase upon that two

2570
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:04,080
Speaker 2: point seven million wouldn't been so easy. So baseball continues

2571
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:10,160
Speaker 2: to do this, all right, I mean, thank you, Kirk Cousins,

2572
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 2: and I think again, this increase also is running lockstep

2573
02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 2: with the factors about a two percent increase.

2574
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:20,480
Speaker 3: In Major League Baseball attendant.

2575
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 2: So far in the twenty twenty five regular season, teams

2576
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:28,160
Speaker 2: are averaging nearly twenty eight thousand per game, propagated over

2577
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 2: eighty two home games eighty one home games. Excuse me,

2578
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 2: every team is basically now drawing two and a half

2579
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:39,120
Speaker 2: million fans per year. It's incredible. Now part of that

2580
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:41,800
Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball is taking a little bit of

2581
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:47,040
Speaker 2: credit because they put in some strategic scheduling and I

2582
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:52,320
Speaker 2: think shohe Atani and Aaron Judge are are leading what

2583
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:54,920
Speaker 2: is a is a pretty good list of fan appeal stars,

2584
02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 2: including a lot of the Japanese pitchers, including you know,

2585
02:16:57,920 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 2: and teams are watching Jan Soto.

2586
02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:01,199
Speaker 3: And if this.

2587
02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 2: Continues, it would be the you know increase for the

2588
02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:06,720
Speaker 2: third straight year. And by the way, it doesn't hurt

2589
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:11,320
Speaker 2: the guys like Paul Skeins, you know, kidding, basically right

2590
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:13,840
Speaker 2: out of LSU and straight to the big leagues. They

2591
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:18,920
Speaker 2: had that big jump last year. Florida had a first

2592
02:17:18,959 --> 02:17:23,880
Speaker 2: baseman named Jack Kaglanon who's hit a million home runs

2593
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:26,320
Speaker 2: in college. He was a sixth overall player in the draft.

2594
02:17:26,440 --> 02:17:28,720
Speaker 2: Last year he just got called up by the Royals.

2595
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:31,720
Speaker 2: He'd been hitting three twenty and a with fifteen home

2596
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:34,959
Speaker 2: runs even though the other played fifty games. And so

2597
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:39,040
Speaker 2: you're not only getting you know, the ESPN games, the

2598
02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 2: Fox games, the Marquee games.

2599
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:43,480
Speaker 3: The Star games.

2600
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:46,080
Speaker 2: You're getting the young players as well, and the small

2601
02:17:46,320 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 2: markets Kansas City they're getting, you know, great ratings as well,

2602
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:55,720
Speaker 2: are great attendance and great viewership as well.

2603
02:17:55,760 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 3: And it doesn't hurt. They've got a.

2604
02:17:57,760 --> 02:18:01,879
Speaker 2: You know, an MVP candidate in in Bobbywood Junior. So

2605
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:07,960
Speaker 2: all around good news for Major League Baseball. And frankly,

2606
02:18:07,959 --> 02:18:10,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise me. I think

2607
02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:13,359
Speaker 2: the game is the experienced a bit of a renaissance.

2608
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:18,200
Speaker 2: The rules changes that were implemented. You know, you gotta

2609
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:20,520
Speaker 2: throw a pitch every twenty seconds, se YadA, yeah, yah,

2610
02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:25,359
Speaker 2: it's all contributed. Coming up to Bernie Fraudles Show continues.

2611
02:18:25,440 --> 02:18:25,800
Speaker 3: Keep it lock.

2612
02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:27,840
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frawders Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2613
02:18:29,400 --> 02:18:32,280
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2614
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:35,680
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2615
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:39,920
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2616
02:18:40,040 --> 02:18:40,680
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2617
02:18:43,560 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio,

2618
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:48,360
Speaker 2: coming to live from the tara Ac doct Oh. Boy

2619
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:53,200
Speaker 2: did it We're great. They're still a great sponsor the

2620
02:18:53,400 --> 02:18:57,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios here in a Las Vegas. And

2621
02:18:57,080 --> 02:19:00,080
Speaker 2: by the way, thanks again to all the midnight call

2622
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:03,199
Speaker 2: so we did touch on the steroid thing and meaning

2623
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 2: that four players have been suspended this year, kind of

2624
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:08,240
Speaker 2: under the radar for the Yorks and Profile and Eric

2625
02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:10,800
Speaker 2: Cosmo former Padre said they should lose the rest of

2626
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:14,280
Speaker 2: their contract. Meanwhile, in Memorial Day of twenty twenty six

2627
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:16,720
Speaker 2: will be a thing called the Enhanced Games. They can

2628
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:20,440
Speaker 2: place to Las Vegas track and field, weightlifting telebers.

2629
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 3: From all that.

2630
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:22,960
Speaker 2: Stuff, you can take all steroids you want. You know

2631
02:19:23,080 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about is the obstinacy and the lack

2632
02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:31,959
Speaker 2: of accountability and the outright defiance of many players who

2633
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:36,760
Speaker 2: were suspended. And there if you research it, you can

2634
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:40,560
Speaker 2: find what the quotes were when they were suspended, all right,

2635
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 2: And for instance, Rafael Bettencourt about his suspension said quote,

2636
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm very angry and disappointed with Major League Baseball's decision

2637
02:19:47,560 --> 02:19:49,800
Speaker 2: to suspend me. I'm going to file a grievance to

2638
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:52,400
Speaker 2: clear my name. I'm very sorry if this has caused embarrassment.

2639
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:55,840
Speaker 2: I look Fordy resolving this matter. Remember a Rod when

2640
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,720
Speaker 2: he got suspended. Now this again is dated, he may

2641
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:03,120
Speaker 2: have recantidate since very obstinate quote. The number of games

2642
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 2: sadly comes with no surprises. The deck has been stacked

2643
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:09,119
Speaker 2: against me from day one. Really, I think I think

2644
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:12,240
Speaker 2: you think he failed twice. Miguel Takata said, you know,

2645
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:17,240
Speaker 2: I have a medical condition, you know, and one thing

2646
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 2: after another, Johnny Peralta, you know, talked about actually he's

2647
02:20:24,200 --> 02:20:27,320
Speaker 2: one of the only guys who took full responsibility for it.

2648
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:32,720
Speaker 2: But for the most part, Ralphael Palmeiro, you know what

2649
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:34,920
Speaker 2: what he said. He said, there's no absolute reason for

2650
02:20:34,959 --> 02:20:36,720
Speaker 2: me to do anything. There's nothing for me to gain.

2651
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 2: I knew I was approaching three thousand nites. I was

2652
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:40,879
Speaker 2: not going to put everything on the line. And you

2653
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:45,640
Speaker 2: know what happened there with with Raphael Paul Mehra. The

2654
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:49,200
Speaker 2: vast majority of major league player player players, even though

2655
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 2: some said I made a foolish mistake and this and that,

2656
02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 2: so one and so forth, the vast majority were really

2657
02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:59,840
Speaker 2: not very Let's just put it this way. They didn't

2658
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 2: take a great accountability for what they did. And you know,

2659
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:07,959
Speaker 2: I remember when I was in Detroit covern the Tigers.

2660
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:10,920
Speaker 2: He had a player named Alex Sanchez. He looked like

2661
02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 2: he waged about a buck twenty five and he was

2662
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:16,000
Speaker 2: not a home run hitter, and he got suspended for

2663
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:17,520
Speaker 2: story and I think it was back like in twenty

2664
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:22,119
Speaker 2: oh five, and we were very surprised, But we weren't

2665
02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:24,360
Speaker 2: surprised because if you flunked the test, you flunked the test.

2666
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:27,279
Speaker 2: But he said, quote, I take some kind of stuff

2667
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:31,360
Speaker 2: up over the counter, multi vitamin protein shakes, mostly relaxers,

2668
02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:33,480
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, over the counter stuff, stuff to

2669
02:21:33,480 --> 02:21:35,520
Speaker 2: give me energy. I'm surprised because I look at what

2670
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:37,199
Speaker 2: kind of player I am. I never hit any home runs.

2671
02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. It surprised me. Come on, man, you

2672
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:44,880
Speaker 2: flunked the freaking drug test. So it's water under the ridge,

2673
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:46,840
Speaker 2: but it's not one under the bridge because it continues

2674
02:21:46,879 --> 02:21:47,320
Speaker 2: to happen.

2675
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:48,160
Speaker 3: It's just not.

2676
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:52,760
Speaker 2: Anywhere near than cessational sports story that it was twenty

2677
02:21:52,760 --> 02:21:57,320
Speaker 2: five years ago. Unless and less, of course, you're Roger Clemens,

2678
02:21:57,560 --> 02:22:01,600
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds and Raphael Paul Merrow and Sammy Sosa and

2679
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:03,199
Speaker 2: you're still trying to get into the Hall of Fame,

2680
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:08,360
Speaker 2: then it's still a big deal. All right. We've covered

2681
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:12,440
Speaker 2: just about every sport so far tonight that's on the calendar,

2682
02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 2: and as we say, we like to cover them all football.

2683
02:22:18,440 --> 02:22:20,680
Speaker 2: You know, we're into June and you mark the calendar

2684
02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:23,800
Speaker 2: and o TA or checked that ot is are done.

2685
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:28,520
Speaker 2: Now you've got mini camp, mandatory mini camp, so it'll

2686
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:30,840
Speaker 2: be in the news. And July is around the corner.

2687
02:22:30,879 --> 02:22:32,680
Speaker 2: And when July is here, the NFL's here. Let's just

2688
02:22:32,680 --> 02:22:36,440
Speaker 2: face it. Teams, teams going to camp. It dominates. And

2689
02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:38,600
Speaker 2: but we also talk to the other football, which is

2690
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:41,640
Speaker 2: spilled f U T bo L And if you pay attention,

2691
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:46,480
Speaker 2: there's always legitimate news to report. That's why at this

2692
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:49,080
Speaker 2: time we bring you Chris Purffett's World of Soccer.

2693
02:22:50,040 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 25: The Greatest School, the thrilling finishes, the international, no drum,

2694
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:09,359
Speaker 25: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2695
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:12,959
Speaker 24: Well, Bernie, before we begin, let's just say congratulations to

2696
02:23:13,000 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 24: Paris Saint Germain. We know it's about a week late.

2697
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:18,840
Speaker 24: We were off last week, but Paris Saint Germain stomping

2698
02:23:18,920 --> 02:23:22,400
Speaker 24: on inter Milan in the Champions League final in such

2699
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:24,560
Speaker 24: a way that I've seen. It been remarked that this

2700
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:27,200
Speaker 24: is one of those losses that inter Milan, no stranger

2701
02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:29,920
Speaker 24: of the Champions League, will be ruing this day for

2702
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:33,360
Speaker 24: generations to come and will remember when they had five

2703
02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:36,879
Speaker 24: goals dropped on them by a youth squad We talked

2704
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:39,120
Speaker 24: about the youth generation of Paris Saint Germaine and this

2705
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:43,080
Speaker 24: is remarkable to watch them go from a from ages

2706
02:23:43,160 --> 02:23:47,440
Speaker 24: of Big three of Namar Messay and Mbape to this.

2707
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:49,680
Speaker 4: But we'll put that to the side.

2708
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:52,959
Speaker 24: There is international play that has been happening as World

2709
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:58,000
Speaker 24: Cup qualifying going, WAFA Nations League going on. But the

2710
02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:01,240
Speaker 24: USA went out and lost a friendly. Now, depending on

2711
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:04,200
Speaker 24: you ask, it's fine, this was a tune up. They

2712
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:06,760
Speaker 24: actually looked like the better half. I'm sorry, I don't

2713
02:24:06,760 --> 02:24:09,879
Speaker 24: really agree with that right now. And Budgetino becomes the

2714
02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:14,439
Speaker 24: first USA men's manager to lose his first three matches

2715
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:17,800
Speaker 24: since Jurgen Klop, which granted there hasn't been a lot

2716
02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:19,760
Speaker 24: in between there maybe that's a sign for good things

2717
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:23,800
Speaker 24: to come. I found it just utterly listless after the

2718
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:26,480
Speaker 24: first you know, they had a first minute goal, but

2719
02:24:26,520 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 24: then after that just kind of like really fussing about.

2720
02:24:29,760 --> 02:24:33,680
Speaker 24: And apparently you will not have Christian poolasitch for the

2721
02:24:33,720 --> 02:24:38,119
Speaker 24: Conka CAF Gold Cup, which seems weird, like this club

2722
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:40,720
Speaker 24: is not this this team, this nation is not good

2723
02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:44,360
Speaker 24: enough to be having time off, regardless of their automatic

2724
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:48,440
Speaker 24: bid to the the World Cup in twenty twenty six.

2725
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:51,240
Speaker 4: Tick tick, You've got about.

2726
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,720
Speaker 24: One year and you're looking like this against Turkey, and

2727
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:56,600
Speaker 24: Turkey is a fun is you know, a fine nation

2728
02:24:56,840 --> 02:24:59,760
Speaker 24: right now? But again the point of the USA isn't

2729
02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:03,480
Speaker 24: too be going down to one to a fine nation.

2730
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:09,320
Speaker 24: The criticism of USA men will continue until morale improves.

2731
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:12,000
Speaker 24: As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason at all

2732
02:25:12,320 --> 02:25:16,920
Speaker 24: whatsoever for any of this right now. This club, this team,

2733
02:25:16,959 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 24: excuse me, has continued to be in the shadow of

2734
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:24,039
Speaker 24: those clubs that those teams that came before, and just

2735
02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:28,840
Speaker 24: continues to be like, why can't I see that again? Meanwhile,

2736
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:34,080
Speaker 24: UEFA Nations League keep trying to say as on Champions League,

2737
02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:38,680
Speaker 24: Laminia mall is once again wowing people. Norway has shown

2738
02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:42,440
Speaker 24: themselves to be a force with Earling Holland going nuts scoring,

2739
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:47,119
Speaker 24: so fair fair shot for the new generation of stars

2740
02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:51,840
Speaker 24: coming up from Europe to be making their presence known. However,

2741
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:55,880
Speaker 24: we always talk about the crowded calendar, and by this

2742
02:25:56,080 --> 02:26:00,480
Speaker 24: time next week, around the middle of June, we'll be

2743
02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:06,480
Speaker 24: jumping immediately from World Cup qualifiers to FIFA World Cup.

2744
02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:12,320
Speaker 24: For clubs, the FIFA Club World Cup is happening in

2745
02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 24: around June fourteenth, fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Yes, so about

2746
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:21,840
Speaker 24: a week and change away. FIFA and its top brass

2747
02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:26,040
Speaker 24: has made no bones whatsoever about how they want a

2748
02:26:26,080 --> 02:26:30,039
Speaker 24: slice of uefas pie that they have with the Champions League.

2749
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:33,160
Speaker 24: It will be fascinating to watch. How much of this, however,

2750
02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:36,160
Speaker 24: is the top guys playing. We just finish up long

2751
02:26:36,200 --> 02:26:40,279
Speaker 24: domestic seasons. We just we went straight from domestic seasons

2752
02:26:40,520 --> 02:26:45,600
Speaker 24: and Champions League final straight into an international break. And

2753
02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:47,800
Speaker 24: now you're going to jump on their bones again and

2754
02:26:47,840 --> 02:26:49,959
Speaker 24: say lay club soccer.

2755
02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:52,080
Speaker 1: I this is a lot.

2756
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:54,680
Speaker 24: This is like if right after the Super Bowl you

2757
02:26:54,879 --> 02:26:58,720
Speaker 24: asked football players to come back for Spring League that said,

2758
02:26:58,879 --> 02:27:00,880
Speaker 24: as long as they'll play it, people will come. This

2759
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:03,360
Speaker 24: is plenty of chance to get in there, and it is,

2760
02:27:03,440 --> 02:27:06,320
Speaker 24: of course the World Cup of Club Soccer. It's not

2761
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:09,279
Speaker 24: just UEFA. And it's a chance to see something interesting.

2762
02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:11,680
Speaker 24: It's a chance to see something like Paul Maris a

2763
02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:14,800
Speaker 24: very good club from Brazil, and Flamengo also from Brazil,

2764
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:17,879
Speaker 24: and those other Comma bals pair off against UEFA. It's

2765
02:27:17,879 --> 02:27:20,000
Speaker 24: a chance to see an MLS side go in there.

2766
02:27:20,600 --> 02:27:22,960
Speaker 24: The inclusion of you might be wondering about some of

2767
02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:25,600
Speaker 24: the inclusion of some of these clubs because it starts

2768
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:28,080
Speaker 24: to really though head scratch considering the history of what

2769
02:27:28,120 --> 02:27:31,320
Speaker 24: we've seen this past year, because you get the slots

2770
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:39,160
Speaker 24: by winning your continents league in those in calendar years,

2771
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:43,640
Speaker 24: in those years until the next World Club World Cup.

2772
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:46,120
Speaker 24: So you will see Man sitting in there because they

2773
02:27:46,160 --> 02:27:49,040
Speaker 24: won the Champions League in twenty twenty three. You will

2774
02:27:49,160 --> 02:27:51,960
Speaker 24: see All Hellal in there, and we've talked a lot

2775
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,520
Speaker 24: about Al Halal, but they won't have Christiano Ronaldo. And

2776
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:57,920
Speaker 24: they're qualifying because they won the AFC Champions League in

2777
02:27:57,959 --> 02:28:01,320
Speaker 24: twenty twenty one, way back in twenty twenty one, and

2778
02:28:01,360 --> 02:28:04,400
Speaker 24: you will see MLS sides, but LAFC is only here

2779
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:08,320
Speaker 24: because a Mexican club was disqualified because of FIFA rules.

2780
02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:10,240
Speaker 24: The Sounders got in because they want a Conka CAF

2781
02:28:10,360 --> 02:28:14,240
Speaker 24: Champions League title there. But the other MLS side, Inter

2782
02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:19,000
Speaker 24: Miami is getting in because they are hosting, yes hosting,

2783
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:23,560
Speaker 24: apparently hosting a Club World Cup. So I guess they

2784
02:28:23,560 --> 02:28:26,880
Speaker 24: were hoping for the Ronaldo Messi but it's not gonna happen.

2785
02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:29,640
Speaker 24: They'll still get the Messi bucks either way. Very odd

2786
02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:33,480
Speaker 24: once again favoritism for Inter Miami, and I just have

2787
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:37,600
Speaker 24: to keep scratching my head at what I understand that

2788
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:40,440
Speaker 24: this is Lionel Messi we're talking about and viewers. You

2789
02:28:40,480 --> 02:28:42,240
Speaker 24: want to put in the one that viewers want to watch.

2790
02:28:42,440 --> 02:28:47,000
Speaker 24: But soccer is founded on meritocracy more than anything.

2791
02:28:46,600 --> 02:28:47,800
Speaker 1: In the world.

2792
02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:49,959
Speaker 24: On paper, this is all a great idea with the

2793
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:52,440
Speaker 24: World Cup. However, in practice I think this will be

2794
02:28:52,520 --> 02:28:55,720
Speaker 24: utterly dominated by UEFA. They hold the most slots at

2795
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:59,640
Speaker 24: twelve clubs, obviously because they've had the best region in

2796
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,160
Speaker 24: the world. Because unlike the World Cup, where you at

2797
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:05,320
Speaker 24: least we'll get some pushback from South America, they also

2798
02:29:05,360 --> 02:29:08,039
Speaker 24: get all the best players. So as much as it

2799
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:10,080
Speaker 24: will be fun and maybe Paul Marris can make a

2800
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:13,600
Speaker 24: fight of something, or maybe Flamengo can show up, or

2801
02:29:13,640 --> 02:29:18,080
Speaker 24: maybe even aside like Al Halal or the Japanese Wawa

2802
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:21,480
Speaker 24: Red Diamonds, can you know, have some fun out there.

2803
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 24: Expect by the when the dust clears to be no

2804
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:28,520
Speaker 24: one other than Manchester City or Real Madrid or Bayern,

2805
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:31,640
Speaker 24: Munich or Paris, sing Germain or inter Milan to lift

2806
02:29:31,879 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 24: this trophy.

2807
02:29:32,840 --> 02:29:33,720
Speaker 2: We'll have some fun with.

2808
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:35,800
Speaker 24: It and see you next time, Bernie and all more

2809
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:38,039
Speaker 24: national news on the world of soccer.

2810
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's always a little dicey, but you don't

2811
02:29:45,640 --> 02:29:50,000
Speaker 2: if you dig deep, there are stories and uh, I

2812
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:53,120
Speaker 2: don't know I did. It won't be long. We'll be

2813
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:55,520
Speaker 2: back talking World Cup and his team losing a friendly again.

2814
02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:59,000
Speaker 2: You know, the United States. We don't win at soccer

2815
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:00,760
Speaker 2: because I don't think we care win. We act like

2816
02:30:00,800 --> 02:30:03,640
Speaker 2: we do, but we don't, and or the women do.

2817
02:30:04,840 --> 02:30:06,200
Speaker 2: But even the rest of the world started to catch

2818
02:30:06,280 --> 02:30:08,199
Speaker 2: up with them a little bit. But but I digress.

2819
02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Coming up, we wrap up the show and major ruling

2820
02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:15,800
Speaker 2: in the House versus the NCAA this week paved the

2821
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 2: way for colleges to pay athletes, but they can pay

2822
02:30:19,400 --> 02:30:22,800
Speaker 2: them directly. Now. I'm not gonna get too heavily into

2823
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:25,000
Speaker 2: this tonight. I'm gonna save it for next week because

2824
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna study it. There's a lot of winners and

2825
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:29,680
Speaker 2: losers in this. People want to know how's it's gonna work.

2826
02:30:30,480 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 2: What's the houses going to change in il enforcement, contracts,

2827
02:30:34,959 --> 02:30:37,160
Speaker 2: transfer portal, all those things. And I'm gonna have all

2828
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:40,680
Speaker 2: that stuff for you next week in detail, because what's

2829
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:45,520
Speaker 2: happening now is a new revolution college sports amateurism completely

2830
02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:46,160
Speaker 2: out the window.

2831
02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:48,680
Speaker 3: Fine, you know, time marches on.

2832
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't question it, but as is the case with

2833
02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:57,280
Speaker 2: a lot of things, it answers some questions and it

2834
02:30:57,360 --> 02:31:00,000
Speaker 2: raises a few more. And finally I'm gonna wrap up

2835
02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 2: the show. How will Derek Carr be remembered? Derek Carr

2836
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:07,000
Speaker 2: will be no more in the National Football League, But.

2837
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:08,280
Speaker 3: He did something on the way out.

2838
02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:13,640
Speaker 2: Because I've I've been critical of Car a lot his

2839
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:17,600
Speaker 2: years with the Raiders, and certainly, you know, when he

2840
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:19,760
Speaker 2: got to New Orleans, he was everything I thought he

2841
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:23,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't be in less and completely underwhelming. But how will

2842
02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Derek Carr be remembered? Well, He'll be remembered certainly for

2843
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 2: his play on the field, which had some highlights, but

2844
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:32,120
Speaker 2: something he did on the way out too as he

2845
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:36,320
Speaker 2: brings his career to a close, and it's very noteworthy.

2846
02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fradda were Kenedy Lyon from Las Vegas Fox

2847
02:31:38,920 --> 02:31:41,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the

2848
02:31:41,600 --> 02:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, wrapping

2849
02:31:44,200 --> 02:31:47,800
Speaker 2: it up on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

2850
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:52,240
Speaker 2: Been with you since eleven pm Pacific on Saturday night.

2851
02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:56,640
Speaker 2: I want to thank my producers, Mark and Brianna. Appreciate

2852
02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:59,240
Speaker 2: all the hard work keeping the airplane on the ground, off,

2853
02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:02,680
Speaker 2: actually keeping the airplane in the air, turning on all

2854
02:32:02,680 --> 02:32:05,120
Speaker 2: the dials, keeping us good together, managing through all the

2855
02:32:05,360 --> 02:32:07,560
Speaker 2: calls in the midnight hour.

2856
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:08,160
Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

2857
02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate all the efforts. There was a major decision in

2858
02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:17,160
Speaker 2: college football this week. Schools are now free to be

2859
02:32:17,240 --> 02:32:20,480
Speaker 2: in paying their athletes directly. This is a dawn of

2860
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:24,520
Speaker 2: a new era. It's a multi billion dollar legal settlement

2861
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:30,280
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of layers to unpack, and I'm

2862
02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:32,720
Speaker 2: gonna do it next week. Might even make it part

2863
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:34,640
Speaker 2: of the midnight hour, because when you hear some of

2864
02:32:34,680 --> 02:32:41,680
Speaker 2: the things that this settlement, which was formally improved Friday, entail,

2865
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:45,040
Speaker 2: you may or may not raise an eyebrow, but you're

2866
02:32:45,080 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 2: gonna have an opinion. I guarantee it. Okay. For instance,

2867
02:32:47,240 --> 02:32:50,240
Speaker 2: I bet you didn't know the NCAA is gonna pay

2868
02:32:50,400 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 2: back almost three billion in back damages over the last

2869
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:58,080
Speaker 2: ten years to athletes who competed in college at anytime

2870
02:32:58,080 --> 02:32:59,640
Speaker 2: from twenty sixteen to the present.

2871
02:33:00,280 --> 02:33:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're gonna do that.

2872
02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna look into that and moving forward again, each

2873
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:06,600
Speaker 2: school can pay its athletes up to a certain limit.

2874
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:11,199
Speaker 2: Now there's gonna be a cap per school starting this year.

2875
02:33:12,000 --> 02:33:14,879
Speaker 2: It started July first, would be roughly twenty point five

2876
02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:18,720
Speaker 2: million per year per school, and it's going to increase

2877
02:33:18,959 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 2: every year during this deal, which is a ten year deal.

2878
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:27,879
Speaker 2: This is obviously very historic. It's a major milestone, and

2879
02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:32,039
Speaker 2: there are winners and losers. Okay, they're not everybody is

2880
02:33:32,040 --> 02:33:36,440
Speaker 2: going to be a winner from this. Let's say you're

2881
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:40,800
Speaker 2: one of those renegade boosters that help make this money

2882
02:33:40,840 --> 02:33:44,760
Speaker 2: explode and you got involved in pay for play, You're

2883
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:46,400
Speaker 2: not going to be able to be involved anymore. The

2884
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 2: schools are going to pay directly. You know, I know

2885
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:55,039
Speaker 2: there are purists out there that you know, lose their

2886
02:33:55,080 --> 02:34:00,400
Speaker 2: mind over the term amateurism. But student athletes been athlete

2887
02:34:00,440 --> 02:34:03,240
Speaker 2: has been a fraud for five decades or maybe even longer. Okay,

2888
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:05,440
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to get over that. It's been

2889
02:34:05,480 --> 02:34:07,400
Speaker 2: a long time coming. Remember this started with the Eddio

2890
02:34:07,440 --> 02:34:09,920
Speaker 2: man in lawsuit. I mean, I don't I'm gonna get

2891
02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 2: into this bigger next week. All right, the group of

2892
02:34:12,959 --> 02:34:16,680
Speaker 2: five schools, All right, what if they can't fully fund

2893
02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:18,840
Speaker 2: the twenty point five million dollar cap, which is only

2894
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:24,400
Speaker 2: gonna go for years to come. You got SEC and

2895
02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:27,600
Speaker 2: Big ten schools, no problem, but not the Big five schools.

2896
02:34:27,680 --> 02:34:32,280
Speaker 2: How about the non revenue sports, the Olympic sports? You know,

2897
02:34:32,879 --> 02:34:34,360
Speaker 2: how about them? Do they? How do they share in

2898
02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:37,760
Speaker 2: the pot? We're gonna get into all of that next week.

2899
02:34:38,560 --> 02:34:41,320
Speaker 2: And you know, how is this going to affect nils?

2900
02:34:41,680 --> 02:34:45,160
Speaker 2: How will players be paid? Which schools will be eligible?

2901
02:34:45,280 --> 02:34:48,560
Speaker 2: Is somebody get to administer this? Yes, there will be.

2902
02:34:49,040 --> 02:34:52,600
Speaker 2: There's something gonna be called the College Sports Commission, which

2903
02:34:52,600 --> 02:34:55,440
Speaker 2: hasn't even been created. It's the best of my knowledge.

2904
02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:57,760
Speaker 2: And what's interesting, there's gonna be a salary cap and

2905
02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:01,040
Speaker 2: all deals are gonna have to be approved, moved. It's

2906
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:04,080
Speaker 2: my understanding through a clearinghouse run by the accounting firm

2907
02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:08,600
Speaker 2: of Deloitte to what they say ensure quote fair market

2908
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:13,920
Speaker 2: value based on their actual endorsement. Okay, for example, an

2909
02:35:13,959 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 2: offensive lineman who you've never heard of could could potentially

2910
02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:20,080
Speaker 2: make six figures in the NIL era. Now they may

2911
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:22,280
Speaker 2: still be able to do that with a revenue sharing contract,

2912
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:24,840
Speaker 2: but those contracts are going to be far more stringent.

2913
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:28,800
Speaker 2: But if you're a player like Cooper Flaggett Duke, well,

2914
02:35:28,959 --> 02:35:32,320
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna you're gonna benefit from that name recognition.

2915
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:35,280
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen to the collectives that they're not even

2916
02:35:35,320 --> 02:35:40,240
Speaker 2: sure yet? And will revenue share contracts be binding? Uh,

2917
02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:44,480
Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions yet to be answered. And again,

2918
02:35:45,160 --> 02:35:50,400
Speaker 2: not everybody is gonna benefit in a way where it's

2919
02:35:50,440 --> 02:35:54,440
Speaker 2: across the board. And you've got a situation where you know,

2920
02:35:54,920 --> 02:35:57,800
Speaker 2: the tide rises, all the boats rise, the tide rises,

2921
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:00,080
Speaker 2: most of the boats are gonna rise, but not all

2922
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:04,760
Speaker 2: of them. All Right, we've seen the money explode in

2923
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:08,080
Speaker 2: recent years from these collectors. Remember how many times did

2924
02:36:08,120 --> 02:36:10,600
Speaker 2: we have to hear Ohio State spend twenty million putting

2925
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 2: that football team together in a work they won the

2926
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:20,400
Speaker 2: national championship. And you know, but some rosters will have

2927
02:36:20,480 --> 02:36:24,720
Speaker 2: forty million, and again some rosters can only have before

2928
02:36:24,760 --> 02:36:28,400
Speaker 2: to have three million. Anyway, I'm doing what I said

2929
02:36:28,400 --> 02:36:32,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do. I'm going to get into this more

2930
02:36:32,640 --> 02:36:41,400
Speaker 2: fervently next week. So Derek carr Is officially retired. He

2931
02:36:41,480 --> 02:36:44,160
Speaker 2: knew he was in a predicament because he had a

2932
02:36:44,200 --> 02:36:48,120
Speaker 2: shoulder injury, and the shoulder injury was going to need

2933
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:52,520
Speaker 2: a pretty severe surgery. He had a lot of degenerative

2934
02:36:53,200 --> 02:36:55,240
Speaker 2: damage to his rotator cuff, which.

2935
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:56,000
Speaker 3: Is very important.

2936
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So yes, he retired on May tenth, but not

2937
02:36:59,480 --> 02:37:02,080
Speaker 2: before a lot of you know, internal soul searching and deliberation.

2938
02:37:02,840 --> 02:37:04,240
Speaker 2: He knew he would have had to have surgery. He

2939
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:06,760
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have played this year, and he wanted to

2940
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:09,760
Speaker 2: just sit there and with surgery and take the Saints' money.

2941
02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:12,480
Speaker 2: He said he would not have been able to play

2942
02:37:12,480 --> 02:37:13,840
Speaker 2: if he had a surgery, but he would have been

2943
02:37:13,840 --> 02:37:16,880
Speaker 2: eligible for the money. He signed a four year, hundred

2944
02:37:16,879 --> 02:37:18,720
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollar contract with the Saints in twenty

2945
02:37:18,760 --> 02:37:21,800
Speaker 2: twenty three at the end of the day. So the

2946
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:24,880
Speaker 2: Saints will go into their season with Tyler Schuck, Spencer Rattler,

2947
02:37:24,920 --> 02:37:28,240
Speaker 2: and Jay Kyner. They known about Carr's injury since March,

2948
02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:30,400
Speaker 2: and they went through the draft process. They wanted to

2949
02:37:30,400 --> 02:37:34,080
Speaker 2: see what he did when. According did their head coach

2950
02:37:34,200 --> 02:37:38,119
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, he did everything he could to get back.

2951
02:37:38,360 --> 02:37:41,600
Speaker 2: Here's the bottom line. You know, Carr was sixty three

2952
02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:43,840
Speaker 2: and seventy nine as a starter with the Raiders, never

2953
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:46,800
Speaker 2: won a playoff game. The last eight years were really

2954
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:49,240
Speaker 2: up and down. He seems like a nice guy, but

2955
02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to really quarterback in my team, and

2956
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:56,640
Speaker 2: he won't be quarterbacking anybody's team anymore. But what Carr

2957
02:37:56,680 --> 02:38:01,000
Speaker 2: did the other day is very noteworthy. Okay, so when

2958
02:38:01,040 --> 02:38:05,720
Speaker 2: he retired, he elected and he did this through his agent,

2959
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:09,040
Speaker 2: and his agent David I believe his name is well,

2960
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. His name, doesn't matter. He said, you're

2961
02:38:11,879 --> 02:38:14,200
Speaker 2: sure you want to do this, and he says, yeah,

2962
02:38:14,200 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 2: it's tough, but I felt like as the right thing

2963
02:38:17,720 --> 02:38:18,640
Speaker 2: for myself on the team.

2964
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:19,160
Speaker 3: He left.

2965
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:21,600
Speaker 2: Car left thirty man guaranteed on the table that he

2966
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:23,560
Speaker 2: would have received in twenty twenty five even if he

2967
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:26,640
Speaker 2: hadn't played it down the car I think was sincere.

2968
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:28,199
Speaker 2: What he said, I never really played for the money.

2969
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:30,280
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of people tell me how crazy I was.

2970
02:38:30,320 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 2: I never would have done that. It's all cool, but

2971
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:35,600
Speaker 2: the bottom line is in cars made over two hundred

2972
02:38:35,600 --> 02:38:37,080
Speaker 2: million in his caurse you don't need to take up

2973
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:39,520
Speaker 2: a collection played for him, but he basically said I

2974
02:38:39,560 --> 02:38:42,080
Speaker 2: really couldn't take the money in good conscience knowing I

2975
02:38:42,200 --> 02:38:46,440
Speaker 2: wasn't contributing. So whatever you think about Derek Carr, whatever

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Speaker 2: you remember about Derek Carr, this will be attached to

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Speaker 2: him for his entire life. It's really kind of a

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Speaker 2: noble thing to do, and it's something that will probably

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Speaker 2: never see done again, maybe not in my lifetime, so

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Speaker 2: we'll have to see. It's going to do it for

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frater Show. See you next Saturday at eleven PM.

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