WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Alive

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The who I'm Still Alive addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals looked to bounce back from last week's

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing loss to the Jets and had proved a six

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<v Speaker 1>and three overall and three and oz in the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>North by beating the Cleveland Browns, coming up, Dave Lapham

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<v Speaker 1>joins me to discuss what went wrong last week and

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<v Speaker 1>answer the ask lap questions you submitted on Twitter. My

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<v Speaker 1>one on one player interview is with Jonah Williams, who

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<v Speaker 1>faces the challenge of trying to block NFL sack leader

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<v Speaker 1>Myles Garrett. On Sunday, I'll preview the game with one

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<v Speaker 1>of three quarterbacks who played for both the Bengals and

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns, Bruce Gradkowski, and I'll also tell you who

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<v Speaker 1>the other two quarterbacks were. And finally, it's our No

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<v Speaker 1>the Faux segment, as we discussed the four and four

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns with long time Cleveland's sportswriter Tony Grossie. The

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<v Speaker 1>since the Monday Night Football Manning Cast. Every Monday, I

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<v Speaker 1>spend my evening doing prep work on the Bengals upcoming opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>and the so called Manning Cast on ESPN two has

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<v Speaker 1>proven to be the perfect background entertainment. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>watched it yet, The Manning Cast is officially titled Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Football with Peyton and Eli, and it's an alternate

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast of the Monday Night football game. It's basically like

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out in their living room as the Manning brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and their guests watch the game. The football content is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but the best part is listening to Peyton and e

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<v Speaker 1>Lie poke fun at each other. The guests this year

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<v Speaker 1>have included a bunch of quarterbacks, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, Drew Breese, Bred Farv and most recently, Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my fingers crossed that will get a Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow appearance sometime soon. Now let's get to my guest list,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lap. Did the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets provide a blueprint for the best way to attack

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals defense? I think that the Bengals can make

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<v Speaker 1>adjustments to what they did. Dan. They gave a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of space. You know, they retreated, and then when things

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<v Speaker 1>start to go badly, when you're retreating, your instinct is

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<v Speaker 1>to retreat more, you know, human nature instead of I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying flight instead of fight, but I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the last thing you want to do is, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this isn't working out. They're moving the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta make sure they're don't throw it over my head.

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<v Speaker 1>So you exacerbate the problem by dropping more a defense

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<v Speaker 1>A coordinator who remained unnamed on this one, but he

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<v Speaker 1>hit a cornerback that was you know, got beat in

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<v Speaker 1>practice as training camp. So he kept giving space, giving space,

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<v Speaker 1>giving space. Defensive corners up, kicks him in the button,

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<v Speaker 1>pushes them up. The line of scrimmage goes, get up

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<v Speaker 1>and press them, don't let them get a free release

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<v Speaker 1>on you reround him. You're doing the opposite of what

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<v Speaker 1>you should be doing, and I think that's what ended

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<v Speaker 1>up happening in this football game. It was almost like

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<v Speaker 1>the human nature was the reverse of what you should

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. You know, your natural reaction was almost like

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<v Speaker 1>contrarian and because you know one thing, offensively, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to create space. Defensively, you want a shrink space, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals defensively, we're helping them create space. And it

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<v Speaker 1>ended up kicking them in the butt and backfiring on them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then compound that with the fact that they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>like Luna Rumo said, they block tackled, they didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>their arms, they never wrapped up, and fifteen broken tackles

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<v Speaker 1>in one football game. Over half of the offense came

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of, you know, yards after catch because

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<v Speaker 1>the space provided, or yards after contact because of mistackles. So,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of lou Anna Rumo, he's done a phenomenal job

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<v Speaker 1>this year. He's right up there with Team MVP almost

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<v Speaker 1>through eight games. But I thought that they stayed with

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<v Speaker 1>their defensive game plan too long and didn't adjust to

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<v Speaker 1>what the Jets were doing. Is that fair? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no experts, certainly, yeah, And I guess part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is my reaction would have been you know, shrink

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<v Speaker 1>the space, shrink the space. And maybe it was being said,

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<v Speaker 1>but players just weren't doing it unless you're out in

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<v Speaker 1>the field actually, you know, make that kind of correction.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at the tape in gosh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>even worse than I thought it was. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was one of those scenarios where I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is an oval simplification. But I thought out

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it again that m lou wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>to muddy up the middle of the football field. For White,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, did a lot of some zero stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, and he wanted to you know, make that

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, rush hour traffic, not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sort it out. And what Lafleur did and what White

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<v Speaker 1>executor was get it to perimeter, you know, to the

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<v Speaker 1>short passes, the screens though a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of routes that were to the outside, stay away from

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff in the middle. I thought they had

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<v Speaker 1>a good game plan and they didn't have to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>their game plan. And the Bengals, you know, if they

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<v Speaker 1>did adjust, took them obviously a little bit too long

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<v Speaker 1>and then did not execute either the game plan or

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<v Speaker 1>the adjustment to the game plan well enough. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets made more plays. That's what it boiled down to.

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<v Speaker 1>And how about White, not only the yards but the

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<v Speaker 1>Philly special he catch us the two point conversion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's going to have a statue at the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean after one game, he's I know one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be buying too many dinners or drinks

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<v Speaker 1>in that town, which is good considering how much they

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<v Speaker 1>cost to first quarter of the game, fourth and goal

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<v Speaker 1>from the three after the Jesse Bates interception. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want a second guess just because it didn't work. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, did you agree with going for it

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<v Speaker 1>or would you kick the field goal? Yeah? I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have put points on the board because of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, all right, I already got I already took

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<v Speaker 1>a hit, I already get staggers as they went right

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<v Speaker 1>down the field in the first drive and scored. Then

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<v Speaker 1>your defense makes a play and returns it a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of yards, and it's rare to get tack to the

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<v Speaker 1>one yard line interception return. You know, it's almost amazing

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<v Speaker 1>that he did. That's that's just an unbelievble hustle players.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a seven point play, as it turned out,

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<v Speaker 1>But first and goal at the one you get knocked back,

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<v Speaker 1>two straight downs, third down, your best receiver production wise

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of yards and catches and touchdowns drops, the

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<v Speaker 1>ball gets right in the chest at that point. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a rocky start. Let's get something out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get some points on the board, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then okay, let's go attack again. But and

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<v Speaker 1>that's easy to say, hindsight is twenty twenty. But with

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that went on before that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been and we both agree, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta got kick it, get the points. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was with you at the time I take that field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to come away with something, avoid the risk

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<v Speaker 1>of coming away with nothing. But it wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that way ninety to ten. I felt that way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fifty three to forty seven, right right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, because in the competitive part of you is like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? This is embarrassing, this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Jets, the only one, only one a game.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta we gotta let's get even steven right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's establish something. I mean, I can see both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see a case for both ways, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen particularly the way their first three downs went. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you expect to rise from the ashes and make something

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really good happen. You know, I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>odds say, I guess if you do analytics, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have three bad players or oh it's you augs, you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have four in a row as opposed to have

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<v Speaker 1>one good one, probably favoring the one good one. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You can analytic to death. All I know

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<v Speaker 1>is the Bengals took a shot to the mouth when

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<v Speaker 1>they went down the field and scored their first points

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<v Speaker 1>of the season in the first quarter. They were so

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<v Speaker 1>confident they wanted to toss instead of deferring. This so

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<v Speaker 1>we want the ball because we feel so good about

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<v Speaker 1>our game plan. We want the ball. They went right

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<v Speaker 1>down the field and scored. It's like, whoo man. Now

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like you get pushed off your spot here

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You got to rebalance, recompose. So those

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<v Speaker 1>are the reasons I would have done it. And they

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<v Speaker 1>still had an eleven point leading the fourth quarter, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like that decided the game. But still thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was worth discussing all right. So far this year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have scored fifty eight points in the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five points in the third quarter, seventy points in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter, but only twenty four in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an average of three points a game. Now, part

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<v Speaker 1>of that is they've won all these coin tosses and

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<v Speaker 1>they defers, so they've got fewer drives the first quarter

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<v Speaker 1>then the other ones. But why do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>offense keeps starting slow? That's a million dollar question, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. I just I don't know. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like you think about it so much. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to be a trend after like your third game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a game or two, it's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it'll turn around. Now getting into the halfway

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<v Speaker 1>point of the season and still an issue. So not

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to take on a life of its own,

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<v Speaker 1>and you really start to press and to try to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe do too much or I don't know, I really

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<v Speaker 1>can't explain it. You're trying to do too much as

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<v Speaker 1>a play caller. You're trying to do too much, to

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<v Speaker 1>be too perfect in your execution instead of just going

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<v Speaker 1>out and relaxing and playing football. I mean, it has

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<v Speaker 1>taken on a life of its own, just like scoring

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<v Speaker 1>in the final two minutes of the second quarter is

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<v Speaker 1>taken on a life of its own, and coming right

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<v Speaker 1>out in the first drive in the third quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>scoring like six out of eight games in both cases.

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<v Speaker 1>There that's taken on a life of its own. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a negative life of its own, then a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of positive life of its owns um but boy, if

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<v Speaker 1>they could get that sword away, It's it's hard playing

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<v Speaker 1>from behind, you know, in the national football again. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though they haven't scored in the first quarter every

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<v Speaker 1>every game, or if scored been the other team has

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<v Speaker 1>scored first, probably more than them every in most games,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been able to bounce back. I mean they've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to you know. It hasn't necessarily been the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>reason they lost the football game, but it's a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a factor. I think it's a factor

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Let's talk about the Browns. They're four and four.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield is playing with the left shoulder injury that

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<v Speaker 1>will eventually require surgery. Kareem Hunt is out right dackle

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Conklin is an excellent player. He's going to miss

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<v Speaker 1>this week's game. Now they've got Odell Beckham junior and

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<v Speaker 1>senior drama going on in Cleveland. How did the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>look to you right now? And what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the keys to beating them? Yeah, I mean they're still

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<v Speaker 1>they're still a physical football team. You watch you watch

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<v Speaker 1>them on tape and you think, how does this football

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<v Speaker 1>team not won more games? Because their offensive line is

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<v Speaker 1>very good, their defensive line is very good. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just in the running the football alone, they have the

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<v Speaker 1>best differential in the National Football League. They've outrushed their

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<v Speaker 1>opponent by seventy six point three yards, best in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Their number one rushing it, the number one in yards

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<v Speaker 1>per while they're rushing it, they're the third and stopping

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<v Speaker 1>the run, and their second in yards per stopping the run.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's exactly what you want. They're a plus one

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<v Speaker 1>point seven per attempt. That's one. Now, that's first in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League as well. When you can run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and stop the run like that, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what level of football you're talking about, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be a winning football team. Now they're minustering in the

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<v Speaker 1>turnover department, which is which is probably a little bit perplexing.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest thing is that their lack of takeaways, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>that's stunned me. Only five takeaways, tied for the second

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<v Speaker 1>fewest in the league. You know, they've only got eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight giveaways. That's not terrible, but being minus three with

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<v Speaker 1>just the five takeaways, they've only recovered two fumbles, tied

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<v Speaker 1>for the second fewest in the National Football League as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you can always find a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>they are what they are. But when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>their personnel and you look at the way they've executed

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<v Speaker 1>as a result they having that personnel, and they've had

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<v Speaker 1>some injury issues. Chubb has been hurt, Hunt's been hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't had their one two punch at the running

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<v Speaker 1>back position together for a whole lot of snaps. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got a tanement defensive ends that's as good as there

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<v Speaker 1>is in the league. I mean, they've got players. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got players. So the Bengals are gonna have to play

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<v Speaker 1>at a very high level to get this thing taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of. And I think you know, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, the Bengals are in such a good situation

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<v Speaker 1>because they've won two division games. If they can win

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<v Speaker 1>this one, they have Basically, they have their net three

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<v Speaker 1>division games at home, three in a row at home,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they have to go up to Cleveland the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season. But if they can take care

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<v Speaker 1>of business on the division games at home and start

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<v Speaker 1>five at all. And I'm getting way ahead of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, if you can win this home division

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<v Speaker 1>game and your first two division games in the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the season or at home, man, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high Cotton. That's you know, that's that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>won in Pittsburgh and in Baltimore to put yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>this position now you have to capitalize and finalize. Is

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<v Speaker 1>stopping the run far and away the number one key

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<v Speaker 1>this week? I think it is. I think I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being competitive with their run game in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of running it and stopping the run, they're the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the league in my opinion, you know, combined. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the core of what the Bengal is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to be competitive in those areas to

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<v Speaker 1>win this football game. I don't think they can get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just rush for seventy yards against the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>Browns and give up one hundred forty and think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win the football game. I just I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that being the case. I see that that

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<v Speaker 1>rush differential as being a factor. The Bengal is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to you know, narrow that margin. They can't be

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<v Speaker 1>out rushed by seventy six plus yards like everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>has been on an average basis. Myles Garrett leads to the

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL and sacks. I think we all know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised to see he's tied for second on

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns and tackles. So he's doing the job in

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<v Speaker 1>the run game as well. When you watch that guy

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<v Speaker 1>on tape, what jumps out freak, I mean, so explosive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's even more effective. Probably two of

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<v Speaker 1>his ten sacks have come from inside. But man, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so explosive and they twist and stunt with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's man, he hits gaps and you know, he just

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<v Speaker 1>he just overpowers people. He grabs two, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just so effective inside. That's big. Fred Fred Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>gave up a you know, a sack last year. That

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<v Speaker 1>was he lined up over Fred at Fred playing in

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<v Speaker 1>a right guard position, lined up a defensive tackle, blew

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<v Speaker 1>up the field sack Joe stripped him, recovered the fumble,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all of it. He got the he got

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<v Speaker 1>the triple dip ice cream cone, the sacks, stripped, fumble

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<v Speaker 1>and fumble recovery. They have a short field and they

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<v Speaker 1>score big, big play in that football game. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a guard and I think I think they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, let's challenge the guards a little bit. Match

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<v Speaker 1>up wise, I think we may see Garrett inside, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even more than people think potentially. But he's he's the

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<v Speaker 1>son of a gun on the edge too though. And

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, Dan, he and Clowney, Clowney to Clowney said,

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<v Speaker 1>such a good solid edge in the running game. Garrett's

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<v Speaker 1>doing it as well. I mean, they're they're just a

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<v Speaker 1>very very sound football team. In Clowney. Remember we saw

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<v Speaker 1>Clowney when we beat Tennessee, when Quentin Spain was his

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<v Speaker 1>first game with this historic you know, doesn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>the names and faces the guys in the huddle. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes out there and plays the heck of a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Clowney was in again. Clowney to me looked like look

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<v Speaker 1>back nine ish. Now he's got juice. Now, now he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a guy that you know, a duo, A tandem guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's playing with a lot more juice than he played

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<v Speaker 1>with when we saw him last when Tennessee came here

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<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati in that game. Not what I wanted to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>I pointed the lap signal into the sky above Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Stadium this morning. So I've got some asked lap

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<v Speaker 1>questions that were submitted via Twitter. This one comes from Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Every player and coach knew the Jets was a potential

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<v Speaker 1>trap game or a letdown game, and your experience what

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<v Speaker 1>causes a team to still come out flat? Man? Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>let me you give me an opportunity to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something to happen in our Super Bowl team in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one, first time we went to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>This is unbelievable when I thought back to it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the circumstances were pretty close. We're five and two.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to play the New Orleans Stain. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>and six down in New Orleans Forest. Greg's like man, trap,

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<v Speaker 1>tr ap, big trap until he was blue in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>We go down there, Saints spank us seventeen to seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll guarantee you all week, guys, I'm telling you they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come out. They're embarrassed. They're embarrassed by the Patriot.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a physical football game. You can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you blue in the face until you get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and feel the trap and squeeze on you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you Sometimes you have to learn the lesson

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<v Speaker 1>the hard way. And what did we do? Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go one of two ays. You can fold

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<v Speaker 1>your tent or respond. That was the last game in October.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had the November to remember. Dan and I

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<v Speaker 1>looked all the games up. November first against the Oilers

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati, thirty four, twenty one, thirteen point win. We

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<v Speaker 1>go out to San Diego on November eighth, beat him

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<v Speaker 1>forty to seventeen, and everybody's like, oh the freezer ball man,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys have played, we pumped them by twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three points in their place. We're better than the San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego charges now the Er charges. But then on the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth the Rams come to town, Jack Youngblood and the

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<v Speaker 1>second Fearsome forcemen as such, Fred Dryer, all these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We beat them twenty four to ten. Then the Denver

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos come, Oh wait, I mean just to hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a football team. It's when the Broncos. With the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>we've beat him thirty eight twenty one, beat him by seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we go to Cleveland on the twenty ninth. Five

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<v Speaker 1>games in the month of November, the way that calendar

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<v Speaker 1>worked out, on the twenty ninth of November, beat Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>forty one twenty one. The closest anybody came was thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>points in a five game sweep of good football teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Every one of these teams was a playoff contender. Then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, yeah, we are as good as

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<v Speaker 1>we thought we are. This I'm not saying this football

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<v Speaker 1>team is going to go on a five game winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak or four game and winning streak or whatever and

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Super Bowl. But what I'm saying is,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let one stub your toe where you broke your toe,

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<v Speaker 1>or don't let it break your toe. Stub your toe,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let it break your toe. On recover, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all your goals is still ahead of you, particularly with

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<v Speaker 1>respect to the division. You can bounce back against a

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<v Speaker 1>division opponent, sweep the division in the first part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>be three and all at the break at the bye

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<v Speaker 1>week in the division in great shape. Like we said

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<v Speaker 1>two out of the last year at home, this big game,

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<v Speaker 1>stop your toe, don't break your talent. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This question comes from r as have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>players come to the podium together to answer questions? No, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say that, because you know, when they have

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<v Speaker 1>the big games that are network televised playoffs and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have teammates out there together because of just the

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<v Speaker 1>timing of it and all that. But they're not out

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<v Speaker 1>there necessarily, you know, as one to answer questions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they'll they'll be peppered questions just trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>a sheer volume people out there. This is a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where let's go out there and show united from we

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<v Speaker 1>all believe in each other, we believe in the football team,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's approach it that way. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great idea. And I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>the idea it was, but all three of them should

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<v Speaker 1>take a bow, I think for that. I think their

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.360
<v Speaker 1>teammates appreciated it. I know as a former player I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and they all representing themselves and their football team very well.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a very very positive statement and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it kind of it eased the fracture was.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't as bad a break of the bone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>after losing that football game. The way they handled it,

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped the damage. You know, they basically stuck the

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<v Speaker 1>finger in the dike and stopped the leaking of the damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a good move. I agree, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was great. This question comes from John in

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<v Speaker 1>a season where the Bengals have been incredibly healthy so far,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm knocking on something that sounds like wood. Should the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have made moves at the trade deadline to position

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<v Speaker 1>themselves for a playoff push. You know, you heard about

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<v Speaker 1>all these potential deals that we're going to be made,

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<v Speaker 1>and just a very very few of them are made.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just hard. It's hard. It's hard to make deals

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<v Speaker 1>that benefit both football teams enough where they both feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable enough to do it. We don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>deals they kicked the tires on. We don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many deals they got into big discussions on, but none

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<v Speaker 1>to materialize. I have no problem with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't make any trades. Now, I hope and I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's number one focus still is signed. Jesse Bates.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think their mindsets take care of their

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<v Speaker 1>own and even and now that they didn't make any

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<v Speaker 1>of these trades and have to mess with any salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap deal scenarios in the in so doing, they know

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<v Speaker 1>still exactly what they were going to be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>you at the conclusion of the season and for future

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<v Speaker 1>seasons on. So you know, maybe maybe the deal will

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<v Speaker 1>come together for Jesse Bates before the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, But I think that would still be my

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<v Speaker 1>first priority. You know, when you have when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate like Mike Hilton, a conclusion of a press

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<v Speaker 1>or say, signed Jesse Bates, it's powerful stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of things mean something, I think, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would be my number one priority now is getting number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty signed, followed closely by Larry Ogan Joby absolutely. Next

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<v Speaker 1>question from governor chief, how do you think the defense

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<v Speaker 1>will respond after an abysmal performance last week. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll respond big time. I think that I think this

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<v Speaker 1>one is gonna be a cage match. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be like MMA. It's it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a very very physical football game. It's a division rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Cincinnati are always physical football games with what's at

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<v Speaker 1>stake now, and I mean the sports psychologists could have

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<v Speaker 1>a field day. Bengals have the big win in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>and they get full of themselves and they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen to everybody about the trap game deal. They

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<v Speaker 1>go down to go up to the Jets and lose

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<v Speaker 1>that football game, how are they going to respond? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had more to lose than the Jets obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>that football game, and they'd lost it in the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>one to Cleveland coming off a brutally physically tough football game,

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers lose five in the division by five in

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<v Speaker 1>the division game, what's their mindset going to be? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I think both of them are going to come into

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<v Speaker 1>this football game dan angry, upset, disappointed, wanting to make restitution.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be really physical, particularly at

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<v Speaker 1>the onset. And then then what you have to do is,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you get over that phase of it and

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<v Speaker 1>now you get into the snap by snap grind of

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the game. But keep that intense and new level high.

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what we're going to see out

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Bengals. We're not going to see that intensity

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 1>level sag like it's sag in New York. This question

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Willie, not Cunningham. Ken Hakima Dentagy be the

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<v Speaker 1>first guard off the bench once he's activated to the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three manuster, assuming that happens. I want if that's

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Big Williamerson asking that old line question, Big will it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't surprise me if But he has to be physically ready,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and thing that he's fighting, like we talked about before

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>right now, is not just getting ready physically for football.

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he hasn't had any contact so and he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't taken all the reps at OTA's Mini Camps training

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<v Speaker 1>camp that all the other linemen took with Frank Pollock

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and his new new technique's new footwork and all that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's trying to catch up in a very

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<v Speaker 1>very short time for him of thousands of reps that

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the other guys are taken. So it's not easy. And

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't played a lot of football in the National

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Football League, So you throw all that into the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, I don't know if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>rush it necessarily, because that could be kind of productive

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and it could be a confidence buster in some way.

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Shape or for him. But he's got talent, and if

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like he's ready to play, I'd see how

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>well he can play. I really would. I'd find out.

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Another offensive line question comes from man, can you see

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Trey Hill getting snaps at center? Potentially? But I think

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I think the one thing that that Trey Hill has shown, unfortunately,

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 1>is when a problem happens, he kind of loses his mind.

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, it happened to him, you know, in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>and he only lasted a couple of snaps before Frank said,

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, look this, you're gonna have to sit back

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>down and chill a little bit. And then he did,

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and he came back. He played some lights, some snaps.

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.239
<v Speaker 1>But the one thing you can't have happen is the

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<v Speaker 1>center who makes all the calls and everything that goes

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>along with it. Trey Hopkins does an unbelievable job, super

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>intelligent and doesn't never lose his you know, he's like

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>he's always got his he knows the responsibility, so he's

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lose his mind. As such. Tray shown that

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>can happen to the young rookie, so that that would

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>be a concern of mine. That's somebody that I've I've

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>got play in the center position that kind of orchestrates,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody's movements based on his calls. He would

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>be a very clear minded, clearhead and all that sort

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So physically, yeah, I think he could. Mentally,

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little work to do there. The final two

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>questions come from Bengal super fan and podcaster Zim Zim's

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<v Speaker 1>a good dude. Here's the first question. With last week's

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<v Speaker 1>injury to Carmen and the uncertainty of hopkins knee, coupled

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that the Bengals are likely to have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of extra draft picks next year, how do

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you justify not adding interior line help at the deadline? Well,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that Carmen's injury was not anywhere near as

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.239
<v Speaker 1>bad as people thought, you know, at that point. And

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're at this point in time trying

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<v Speaker 1>to develop a guy that they've added to the interior

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>line to improve it and to make it make it

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>a better unit inside. So I don't think they necessarily

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 1>want to give up on Carmen at this point in time. Now,

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you're thinking because of injury, but again, the

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>injury is not as severe as as initially could have been.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's a that's a factor. And again, interior,

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>really good interior offensive lineman. People don't just give him up.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's he's say, yeah, yeah, I want to

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>trade for an interior offensive linement. Well, I don't want

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to give you mine. You can't give me enough for

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>what I think the value of my interior offensive lineman is.

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, Uh, Mike McCormick divulged to me that

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<v Speaker 1>when I played center to finish out a season, I

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>think it was a nineteen eighty season. I think I

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>had to play Blair Bush Tours knee up and I

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>had to play the last six games at center. And

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCormick was our line coach. And then he went

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>to fill Ladelphia, and uh, and he said that they

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to work at trade to go to Philadelphia, and

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals wanted a first or second undraft pick for

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and obviously, you know, like eight years in the league

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Debtok, Mike goes, hey, I love you and everything,

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>but that that wasn't gonna happen. Those are the kind

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of things though, the people like somebody's uh trash is

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>another person's treasure kind of thing, you know, in terms

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of what the values are. So that's why a lot

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of those deals don't come together, you know that quickly.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like, now, man, that's unrealistic. I mean, yeah, I

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like the guy. I think he's a good player of it. Heck,

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to leverage my you know, my franchises future.

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's a lot easier than it sounds. And

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that's why thirty two teams all to talk about the

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>trade deadline and what less than a handful of deals happened.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>If I'm the Bengals back in the day, I would

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.719
<v Speaker 1>have held out for Ricky Williams like package for day

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of Lapham. I want your entire draft or I'm not

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>giving lap up all right, Second and final question from

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Zim what position would Dan play? I assume he means

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>me in today's soft NFL. Well, the thing about Dan

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Horde is he's sneaky athletic. You got to you got

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to realize that he's very sneaky athletic. Plus, though nobody

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>is more intelligent than Dan Horde. Dan Horde could I

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>would I would have him somewhere on the field, you know,

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have a green dot on his helmet wherever

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>he is because I want to communicate with him, because

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I know what I communicate will be communicated to everybody

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>else precisely. And uh so I would put Dan Horde

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>in a position safety something like that where he has

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to he has to direct traffic and uh and take

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>care take care of business. That way, I trust the

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>man's mind as well as his body. I appreciate that

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>very much, reiterating that that is in the soft NFL

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>because you don't want Dan Horde trying to hit anybody.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I can promise you that lap. Thank you kindly, pleasure

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>as alis my pleasure, Damn the man. Great questions from

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>zim Hu Day, who co hosts the Orange is the

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>New Black podcast with Ace Boogey. I look forward to

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>being their guest this week. Up next my one on

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>one visit with offensive lineman Jonah Williams, who faces the

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>challenge of trying to block Myles Garrett on Sunday, John,

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to start with something three of your teammates

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>did after the loss to the Jets last week. Tyler Boyd,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon and Jessee Bates chose to address the media

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in Unison. What should we take from that? I mean,

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that that says a lot about our team

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and the connectedness that we're showing. And it's important that

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>when we win, we acknowledge that we want as a team,

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and when we lose, we lose as a team. So

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>there's no pointing fingers. It's just accountability as a unit.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought after they had been embarrassed the week before

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>by the Patriots, the Jets played violently on both sides

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of the ball last week. Did you notice a little

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>extra juice while you were trying to block those guys? Yeah,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>they were playing hard, but it's the NFL. You know,

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we expect everyone to play hard every week, so you know,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>they post challenges and we just didn't do enough to win.

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You did score thirty one points. That's the third straight

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>week you've topped thirty all on the road. What do

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you think is clicking right now that maybe wasn't quite

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>there early in the year. I just think that we're

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>we've been together more, we've practiced together more, we've played

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>together more. So I think that we're really starting to

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>gel as a unit. And it's also the progression of

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the offense. You know, schematically, teams are adjusting to something,

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>so we have to have good responses to that, and

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I think we've been doing a good job, and you know,

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the season, it's going to be

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>important that we continue to put up a lot of points.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with Jonah Williams. A key play and last

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>week's game was the interception by the Jets with about

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>four and a half minutes to go. It's a screen

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to Jamar Chase. The right side of the line goes

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to the right faking a run. You and Quinton Spain

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>peel out to the left. You're gonna block for Jamar

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and it looks like if Shack Lawson doesn't tip and

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>intercept the pass, that's going to be a huge game.

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that the way it looked on tape? Yeah, I

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>mean I think that it. You know, the play call

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>made sense with that defense, and you know, if if

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we executed just a little bit better, I think it

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>would would have been a big game or a big play,

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately it was, you know, it just didn't work

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>out that way. Sometimes the other guys make plays too.

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow has been sacked twenty times this year, but

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>ten came in the first two games. You've only given

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>up ten in the last six. What's been the key

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to protecting him so well? If light well, I think

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean any sacks or too many sacks. So I

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's been better, but there's a lot to there's

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot to clean up. You know. It's it's similar

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to what I said in terms of why the offense

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>is scoring. I think that you know, we're working together,

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>working together better as an OH line and as an

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>offense as a whole. Everyone's on the same page, and

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 1>you know Joe's making good decisions with the ball, and

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you know we're just doing a better job of protecting.

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>So we've play a lot of good D lines coming

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>up the rest of the year, and it's going to

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>be important for us to, you know, player best game.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Every week. We're visiting the Jonah Williams because you were

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>selected three drafts ago. I'm not sure that people realize

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>how young you still are. You don't turn twenty four

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>for about two weeks. You're eleven months younger than Joe Burrow.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you're still early in your NFL

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.719
<v Speaker 1>learning curve? I do. I don't look at that as

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a disadvantage, though. I just think that, you know, I

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>have room to grow, and that's that's why I'm still here,

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, That's why I'm That's why I'm here at practice,

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>working every day, and it's it's just a continue to

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>get better and you know, hopefully have a long career

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>ahead of me. So you face the Browns this week,

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and that means you will be matched up against the

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 1>NFL sack leader Miles Garrett. He's also tied for second

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>on the Browns and tackles so far this year, so

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>he's doing a great job against the run as well.

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>You faced him last year. What's the out. I mean,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a he's a phenomenal football player, and I think

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that that's obvious to anyone who watches him. Um, you know,

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 1>he's he's quick, he's powerful, he has a good arsenal

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of moves at his disposal. So it's it's on me

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and on the rest of the line to use great

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>technique and you know, to just do what we can

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to to control them and neutralize him. And I think

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that that's gonna be one of the big keys of

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the game. Watching their last game, I thought it was

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>striking how wide he lines up, he's almost even with

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the slot receivers as opposed to write over you what

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>challenges does that present? I mean it gives him a

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>running started, kind of a full head of steam by

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the time he actually gets to engage me. Um. You know,

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>but it also opens up lanes in the run game.

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, so there's there's advantages and disadvantages to

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>everything in football. UM, so we just have to take

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>advantage of that. Um. It is a unique alignment. Last

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>week was disappointing, no question, but you are five and

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>three if the season ended today, he a playoff team.

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Evaluate this team through eight games. I think that we've

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>shown a lot of really good stuff that makes me

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>excited and that you know, makes us believe that we

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>can be a playoff team. It's just a matter of execution,

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>because I think we saw this past week that you know,

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>no matter how talented we are, how you know, how

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>many good wins we have, any team can show up

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and take it to us on the weekend. And so

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that we know we have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>be a really good team and to be a playoff team.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>We just have to continue to prove that. Um. You know,

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of these games. Last question for Jonah

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Williams the bias coming up after this game? Anything fun planned? Um,

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>just you know, recovering the body. Maybe it's some good

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>food and and hang out and relax a little bit.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm having a hard time thinking about that

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>with these next four or five days in front of me,

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I'll be excited about when it comes understandable.

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Beat the Browns. First, enjoy the break. Second, appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Best of lut this week. Thank you for having but

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.760
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0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:12.400
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<v Speaker 1>an analyst for Pro Football Focus and for Sirius XM

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Radio. The perfect person to preview this week's game

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<v Speaker 1>between the Bengals and the Browns. Is one of only

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>three quarterbacks to play for both franchises, Bruce Gradkowski, and

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to name the other two at the end

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of this inner view, so people have to stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>until the very end. Bruce, Let's start with Joe Burrow.

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a little bit more than one year into his

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<v Speaker 1>NFL career. What do you find extraordinary about what he's

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.439
<v Speaker 1>been able to do so far? Well, thanks for having me, Dan,

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and I just think Burrow what's so special and unique

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 1>about him is what he brings in that locker room

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and just the leader he is, the mentality he has,

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and of course he has all the ability on the field,

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>but I'll tell you when anytime I've been around him,

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he makes me a believer. And I knew the Bengals

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>made some good pieces and acquisitions this offseason, but to

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>watch how they're planning so far this year, watch how

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrows playing, It's just really a compliment to him

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>in his leadership and his mentality of what is resonate

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>throughout that locker room. And that's what I have a

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of respect for, is how he approaches the game,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>his toughness, his mentality, and it's fun to watch. The

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Bengals have top thirty points in each of their last

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>three games. The franchise record for consecutive games with thirty

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>plus is four, so theoretically they can tie that this

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>week against Cleveland. What stands out when you watch the

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Bengals offense right now? You know the thing that's unique

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>and that I was kind of pulling up numbers from

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>our PF data Burrow verse man and man. Last year

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>his PF passing grade was seventy nine point three. In

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>this year, verse man a man, his passing grade is

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four point two. So I think Burrow's doing a

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>great job. But you also have to look at his

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>counterpart in Jamar Chase and what these two do well together.

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase on third down has two hundred and seventy

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 1>two yards. This was before last week, and you know,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>second behind Justin Jefferson, and that just shows you know,

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Burrows third down grade as well, how that got better

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>from last year to this year. And so just watching

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>how Burrow continues to get better. Last year they opened

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>up the offense, he was executing a ton of different

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>concepts and now this year he's one year more experienced

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 1>in it. They're giving him some flexibility at the line

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. And when you have a quarterback that could

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>do those type of things, he's gonna put your offense

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in a downhill play. Is Jamar even better as a

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>rookie than you thought he would be? You know, he

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>really is, especially the things we're hearing, you know, coming

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>out of Bengals camp about drop passes and stuff like that.

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>But then you know, it goes back to you know,

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>even quarterbacks when we studied these college guys or first

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>year in the NFL, we're talking about, oh they're inaccurate,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>or or receiver dropping football, Oh he can't catch. Well,

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>there's so much on their plate as a young player,

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to learn an offense. You're trying to know

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>where to line up and what to do and get

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>used to the speed of game, to the speed of

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the game. Then all of a sudden, the ball hits

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you in the hands. Here, Oh, shoot, that's right, I

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>gotta catch it too, you know. So there's so much

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>going on, and so to watch Jamar Chase in his

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>progress so far from training camp till now, and what

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he's doing is very special. And I'll tell you what.

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Against the Ravens, I was impressed with his yards after

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the catch. I mean, this guy's this guy's tough and

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>physical and explosive. I didn't know he could get away

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like that, and that's what was cool to see. And

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the more Jamar Chase does it, the more

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>he's building his own confidence and be like, Wow, this

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>is the NFL. I can dominate here. And it's pretty

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>cool to see what he's doing. Already, we're talking to

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>former Bengals quarterback Bruce Gradkowski. Let's talk about the Browns.

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people looked at Cleveland as a Super

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Bowl contender going into the season. I'm sure many people

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>still do. But they're four and four so far. What

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>stands out about Cleveland so far this year? You know,

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tough, you know, I know Mayfield going through

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>this shoulder injury. I had a shoulder injury similar college

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>that I had to play through times, and you know,

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not easy, and I know it's his non throwing shorter,

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's still something you're thinking about, something that kind

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of makes you a little hesitant. But Mayfield has to

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>play cleaner football. And I think too when you look

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>at the Browns, you know their playmakers have to step up.

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I know last week Jarvis Landry, you know, had to

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>fumble and to keep position. He dropped a pass another time.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And your leaders, your captains, that's when they have to

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>make plays. Because this division, the AFC North, you know,

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it's tough, man and so if you have an opportunity,

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to take advantage of it. If you have

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>a throw that's open, you gotta hit it. If you

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>have a pass that should be caught, you got to

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>catch it. And you can't turn the football over and

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that bit. You know, the Browns last week against the Steelers.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>But this is a competitive division. A lot of games

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>still left in the season. So you know, if you're

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the Browns, you stuff to be optimistic in that sense.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>But you're coming in and gonna face a good, you know,

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Bengals football team, and the Bengals coming off, you know,

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a tough loss against New York. They're ready to rebound.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So this is gonna be primetime football you know to watch,

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be an exciting game. Odell Beckham Junior's

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>dad basically called out Baker Mayfield this week by posting

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>video that showed times that Odell was open and didn't

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>get the ball. How do you think that plays in

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>an NFL locker room? You know, it's tough. I mean,

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, doesn't carry a lot of weight,

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, because these guys communicate on a daily basis,

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>so you know, it could be something that hopefully they

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>joke around with one another to lighten the mood and

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>like come on, man, tell your dad to call me

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>if he has an issue or you know, something like that,

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>or let's get your dad on FaceTime and talk to him.

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I witnessed it last week as I

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 1>was great in the game and Mayfield through a pass

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>down the middle of the field to Obj. It was

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a little overthrow own and you know, the safety kind

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of was creeping over too, so kind of look like,

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>what were you throwing me into here? And why would

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you leave it high and towards the safety And the

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>way ob J got up after the round kind of

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 1>gave a little stair back to Mayfield kind of had

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>me intrigued, like, ah, yeah, I think there's a lot

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of emotions going on when you're winning. You could slide

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this stuff under the rug. But when things get tough,

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, this is when things come to light.

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>How can you manage these situations? Kevin Stefanski, how does

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>he do during this time? He did a phenomenal job

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>last year during COVID. How do you continue bring the

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>guys together. It's easy to lead during good times when

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>you're winning, everything's gravy. But when you face some adversity,

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>that's when you know the real testament stands out. And

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 1>as a receiver, Dan look, I mean the great, the

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>greatest of the great. They want the football, you know,

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>because the receivers they want to be a part of

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the game and help the team. So I apre obj

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and wanting the ball, wanting to help. But he's got

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to do his job. He's got to run better routes,

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>he's got to be in the right spot, and then

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>when he is open, yeah, Mayfield has to hit it.

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So it's not just one guy's problem. Everyone plays a

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>part in it, and they just can't seem to get

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 1>in a rhythm. First, Kretkowski is our gas, all right.

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are five and three, the Browns are four

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and four. This week's games at Paul Brown Stadium. What

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of keys in your mind? You know,

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it's turnovers. Turnovers stand out to me. You know, who's

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>going to protect the football. But also up front, I mean,

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to stop the run if you're

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, because that's what the Browns are gonna want

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to do. They you want to take some stuff off

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:45.240
<v Speaker 1>of Mayfield's played. Hope played better when you're running the football.

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>So the Browns are gonna come off the bus trying

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>to establish that run, getting back to what they're good at,

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>what they're used to doing, and try to establish the

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 1>ground game in a sense like that. And I think,

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, as far as the Bengals defensively, Joe Burrow,

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, Burrow did a great job last week through

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>three quarters. Same thing defensively, it was that fourth quarter.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a mountdown in a sense. I

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>think the Bengals just had to put a fourth quarter

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>game together, play clean football in Burrow just being Burrow,

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that guy behind you in that photo.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Remember we played the Browns in Cleveland. Don't goes down

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to a little hand injury or wrist and we come

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>back to win. But a lot of good times. But

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the Bengals. I would love to

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>see the Bengals rebound here because I think it would

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>show a testament to their team character and that they

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>are a good, tough football team. Hey, it happens you

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>lose a game you shouldn't. Now you just have to

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>bounce back. Well, you reference that game in Cleveland where

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you were the hero the opener in twenty eleven. You

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>threw AJ Green's first career touchdown catch to win that game.

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 1>That's one trivia question. It's time to answer the other.

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you know the other two quarterbacks to play for

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>both the Bengals and the Browns? Man, it doesn't come

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>to mind right now, you know? Should I know? This

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 1>is this one that a probably should know right now?

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Not really? The other two quarterbacks to play for both

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and the Browns are Jason Campbell and Todd Philcox. Gradkowski,

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Campbell and Philcox, the Big Three. Bruce, It's always great

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to visit with you. Thanks so much for your time.

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Keep up the good work. Yeah, thanks, Dan, you good luck.

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>This week, Bruce became a high school football coach in

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>his hometown of Toledo. This year and took Saint Francis

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 1>de Sales to the Division two playoffs before losing to

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>second seeded Avon. Finally, it's time to take an in

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>depth look at the Browns with longtime Cleveland sportswriter Tony Grossi,

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 1>who joined Lappinbe on the Bengals Game Plan show on

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night. We started by asking Tony for his take

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>on the Odell Beckham junior situation, after the former Pro

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Bowl wide receiver was told not to come to practice

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday afternoon. Well, first of all, I think it's

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>safe to say that the Bengals won't have to worry

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>about defending Odell on Sunday. So no way can I

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 1>see him reconciling the situation and playing in Sunday's game.

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>More likely, I see them separating somehow. The means must be,

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of negotiated. I don't think the Browns

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.760
<v Speaker 1>want to release O'Dell still pay him eight million dollars

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and have him, you know, join a contending team that

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the Browns make face somewhere down the line. So it's

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>very possible, in my opinion, that we can see almost

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a Deshaun Watson situation here where the Browns pay Backham

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year not to play. Wow, that's unreal.

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>So he would be on the commissioner's list as such.

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Not No, I don't think any list. It's just that

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>they won't give him his release. There there, you know,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 1>he's guaranteed his salary as a vested veteran even if

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 1>they would release him. And I don't see it being

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a situation where he could play with them again whether

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>he wants to or not. So just game day and

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 1>active for the rest of the year. Like Deshaun Watson

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>with Houston. Wow. Yeah, paying him to go away, that's

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, pretty good gig if you can find it.

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's unbelievable at any rate. So so he's

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be. He didn't practice today, and of

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>course they they said quote shoulder injury or whatever, but

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean shoulder problem. But it's obviously the personal issues

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that he's dealing with. Fifteen other players were on the

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday injury report in varying degrees. Uh. Seven others didn't

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>practice at all. Six practice limited too on the injury report,

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>including Baker Mayfield. You know, practice bowl. How severe are

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these injuries I mean, I know, you

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>play the Pittsburgh Steelers, you're always licking your wounds when

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you're done. How severe are some of these injuries? Now?

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>These are all legit. Uh, they've they've been beat up

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>for about I don't know, three four five weeks, and

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna stay with him, uh, the whole year. They

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:27.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have a bye week until December, and that they've

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.439
<v Speaker 1>they've been beat up, there's no doubt. I mean, now

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Odell, he's got a legit shoulder injury in

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 1>addition to this mass and all of the all of

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:41.879
<v Speaker 1>the injuries listed are fairly legit. They've played with him.

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You probably know Banker situation. He's got a totally torn

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>left laborum and also a very small chip fracture in

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>his uh humorous bone, and he's playing with that wearing

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a tight harness to keep the shoulder from popping out

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>even without contact. So are banged up, and it's it's

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>partly the reason they're four for him. So it is

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>partly the reason. Tony Grossi from eight fifty ESPN Cleveland

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>is our guest. Let me follow up on Baker Mayfield Tony,

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 1>because he's played great against Cincinnati the six times he's

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 1>played the Bengals, and last year with Kevin Stefanski coaching him,

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.479
<v Speaker 1>he was so great at those rollouts and just using

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the running game to create wide open lanes or in

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the in the passing game. Have they had to curtail

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:31.879
<v Speaker 1>that stuff because of the bad shoulder. Are they reluctant

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to have him rolling out and potentially exposing himself to

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>hits to the shoulder. This will be a good test

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to that, because they surely limited him against Pittsburgh. But

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>as you guys know, it's tough for quarterbacks to get

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.760
<v Speaker 1>on the edge. Against Pittsburgh, they played that wide defensive front,

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's just it's just tough to begin with.

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:57.280
<v Speaker 1>But clearly they had two fourth and one quarterback sneak

0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 1>possibilities and they didn't use the stake because they don't

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.959
<v Speaker 1>want to further injure him. So I do think he's

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 1>more limited now and we'll see if they get him

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.399
<v Speaker 1>out on the edge. That's where he's more effective. To

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 1>be able to see the field, even if you're only

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing half of it. When you do that, when he's

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:19.720
<v Speaker 1>in the pocket, it's very difficult for him to connect.

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>You see him sailing the ball high down the middle

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of throws this year. So Nick Chubb

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>is now back. I guess we won't see Hunt it

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like but Chubb is back the offensive line. Conklin.

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Is he going to try to play with a big brace,

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a big contraption or no, he's out indefinitely. He's so

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna have surgery, but he's out indefinitely. They haven't.

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>They haven't cleared him out yet at this point. I

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.720
<v Speaker 1>guess are they going to put him in into reserve.

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.959
<v Speaker 1>That's to be determined by the end of the week.

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>But they turned it a multiple week injury. So who

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>goes for him? Is that Hants or is it Hudson?

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Now it'll be blank Hants, who's kind of emerged as

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>their new sixth man. You know, they also have Chris

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Hobbard out, who was their sixth man. He's on ir right.

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So Hants has emerged as that guy who will fill in.

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>He's skilled in at left tackle, he's skilled in at

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 1>right tackle, and now he's the starter at right tackle. Uh, indefinitely.

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So the offensive line this the Cleveland Brown team, number

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>one in the league, rushing number one in the league

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>rushing touchdowns. You know, they just they pound people expect

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>even you know, with Hants at the at the right

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>tackle position, that's not going to alter their mindset. I mean,

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>their whole offense is built around pounding the football, averaging

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred and sixty yards in the ground. Do

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you expect the same type of thing this week? Oh yeah,

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that's their bread and butter. And they were even to

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>do They were even able to do that against Denver

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 1>with Chubb and hunt out, you know, with his number

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>three de Ernest Johnson the third back. So it's all

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 1>based on the offensive line, and Hants has been steadily

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 1>improving under you know, Bill Callahan, the offensive line coach,

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>is known for improving players alonger they're playing for him,

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and Blake Hants is one of those. So I don't

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:27.720
<v Speaker 1>expect that to change, especially when you consider that Baker

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is restricted now playing with a tight harness, and and

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, knowing that shoulder has already been rehindred once already.

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>How bad is Will's ankle injury and Trader's knee? How

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>bad are those guys? Well, Trader is one of those

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>guys who hardly ever practices, but hasn't missed a snap

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>in four years. He's always going to have a legit

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>knee injury on the injury list. The other one, Wills

0:53:55.360 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>has probably survived the worst. He played when he probably

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have during the initial stages of that ankle injury.

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>He admitted that. But now he's much better after he

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>missed two games, so he's closer to normal. A couple

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>more questions for Tony Gross, who covers the Cleveland Browns

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.919
<v Speaker 1>for the Land on Demand dot Com. I'm looking at

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett stats. He's got two more sacks than anybody

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 1>else in the NFL. He's got five more quarterback hits

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>than anybody in the NFL. I kind of knew that,

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 1>but then I see he's tied for second on the

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 1>team and tackles. That tells me he's playing the running

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.919
<v Speaker 1>game great. Has he taken his game to the next

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>level this year? I think so, although he is missing

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the element of strip sacks. Yeah. Last year he had

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>four strips in four straight games. I think one was

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>on Burrow early on. He hasn't done that, and of

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>course he lost the band again last week in a

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 1>type game. It wasn't able to affect that game. Um,

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:08.280
<v Speaker 1>he is collecting the sacks and he's a great player,

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.400
<v Speaker 1>don't you know. Don't get me wrong, but it seems

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>every time he and TJ Water on the field together,

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 1>TJ has the better game. So in terms of Clowney, jadeveon, clowney, ankle, knee, hip,

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's pretty extensive. All all three of

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>those are listed in Um. You know, he missed practice. Uh,

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:36.359
<v Speaker 1>but he seems to be watching him as compared to

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>when I saw him play last year when he was

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 1>with Tennessee against the Bengals and watching him on tape,

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 1>this year, he seems to have more juice. I mean,

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is it because he's playing with a great player or what? What?

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>What is his status physically, do you think? Yeah, he's

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 1>got the hat trick of injuries right now, and again

0:55:54.320 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they're all legit. Um. Uh. Yeah. He started the year,

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the training camp, the preseason in a very happy state,

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 1>basically because he started camp healthy for the first time

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.760
<v Speaker 1>in like three years. In his opinion, he had missed.

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 1>He had missed training camps for the last three years

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of rehabbing injuries from the previous year. This year he

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>started healthy, which made him happy. He liked the vibe here.

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>He liked, you know, not being the number one guy,

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the batman, but being the robin to Garrett. Uh, and

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he knew the Browns should contend. Uh, he is when

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he's on the field, Uh, he's pretty pretty well. You know,

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>he's he's best against the run and he had two

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>tackles for loss against Pittsburgh on running plays. That's that's

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>vintage Clowney there. But when he's on the field, he

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>does help make Garrett more effective because they can't double everybody.

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Both teams chipped and used tight ends on Garrett. Um,

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he would wrecked a little more pass rush numbers out

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of clowning. But he's he's having a better year than

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Like he said that, you remember last year and maybe

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>even the year before that. So what about Denzel Ward?

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:21.959
<v Speaker 1>How bad is the hamstring with Denzel Ward? I think

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 1>he returned to practice today. I think I think he

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>was limited on their report, which was improvement because he

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.919
<v Speaker 1>missed the last game. And usually with Denzel Ward, when

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he has a hamstring that forces in the miss a game,

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's usually multiple games. So I wasn't We'll see if

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>he gets into the game. It's going to be literally

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a questionable situation, but the fact that he was at

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>practice and limited today was encouraging. So we'll see how

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that one goes. And finally, Tony and thanks for all

0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>your time. How big of a blow was losing the

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 1>rookie from Notre Dame A woosue Cora. That guy is

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a freak. He does some freak is stuff to tape

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and I saw on him. I'm telling you what if

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he was in there with Clowney and Garrett, Are you

0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? What was he? How big an addition was

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that dude? Yeah, well that's that's what they envisioned. Would

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you just expressed? And he was based how like a hybrid.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>He looks like a quarterback. He's so short and he

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>wears a quarterback number two twenty eighth, so it's weird.

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 1>But he's very quick. He was going to be the

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 1>quick guy to help him defend Lamar Jackson. You know,

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. They got some of those guys on their

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>schedule homes. But and he was coming along really well

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as the weak side linebacker and uh and and had

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>gotten to the point where he was on the field

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>for three downs rather than just special packages. They loved

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the way he was developing and the impact he was having,

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was a blow. He'll be back in

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks, I believe, and it's not I

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's not done for the year, but he

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 1>is on IR all right. Thanks to Tony Grossie. And

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.560
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