Speaker 1: This is Suckers.
Speaker 2: I'm Kailen Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared Han.
Speaker 3: At iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 4: Hello everybody, Welcome to an all new episode of Suckers.
Speaker 1: I am Dean. My pimple is gone.
Speaker 4: We have Kaylin here in the same room as me
Speaker 4: and Jared over in Rhode Island. Very special guest is
Speaker 4: joining us this week on Suckers. I think we might
Speaker 4: have talked about it a couple weeks.
Speaker 1: No, maybe not.
Speaker 4: But we have Hannah Brown, the one and only Hannah Bee,
Speaker 4: joining us all the way from Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Hi, Hannah, Hi, wait, I need to.
Speaker 5: Hear about this pimple. I had a pimple too.
Speaker 1: Do you see it on my forehead?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 5: I mean, is it right right right here? That's like
Speaker 5: darker yep. Oh.
Speaker 4: Kylen gave me some skincare serum and it kind of
Speaker 4: knocked it out pretty quick, but it's still there's some
Speaker 4: remnants there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he just uses body lotion on his
Speaker 3: face so clogged. His pours up pretty quick.
Speaker 1: But my skin was looking real young and fresh.
Speaker 6: I had a really big like pimple that was inside
Speaker 6: my nose that was making my whole nose swell on
Speaker 6: one side, Like it looks like I had had really
Speaker 6: bad rhinoplasty and I just had to take like medication.
Speaker 5: To get it to swell. Oh wow, Well, but it
Speaker 5: didn't look like a pimple. It was just like mostly
Speaker 5: just my nose looked swelling something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought we were past the age of getting pimples.
Speaker 4: Like even in high school I kind of got them
Speaker 4: a little bit, but not that much. But in our thirties,
Speaker 4: we should not be getting pimples.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. I agree.
Speaker 6: I had a really bad about Like Kaylen probably knows this.
Speaker 6: My skin blew up at like twenty three, and I
Speaker 6: was like, what is happening to me? While I was
Speaker 6: like on the Bachelor and everything, We're finally passed that.
Speaker 6: That was like a traumatizing experience for me.
Speaker 1: So I think it's probably all the stress. Maybe didn't
Speaker 1: help you all that.
Speaker 5: Much, probably did not help naturally also.
Speaker 4: Too, Kaylen, I don't know, well you're experience was, but
Speaker 4: I feel like, since you guys are wearing makeup so
Speaker 4: often for that stuff, that can't be good for your skin, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: my skin wasn't happy.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think that that helped in any way.
Speaker 6: I think I was having like more like like internal
Speaker 6: stuff going on. But yeah, that didn't make it where
Speaker 6: I could like actually like let it settle down for sure.
Speaker 7: Oh man, Dean, you've had experiences where you probably haven't
Speaker 7: washed your face in quite a long while, and then
Speaker 7: now you are much more domesticated. My I'm curious because
Speaker 7: I've thought about this. Do you think that your skin
Speaker 7: is clearer with washing it consistently or not washing it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm sure Kaylen would say my skin's never been cleaner
Speaker 4: because I started using soap on it. But I think
Speaker 4: personally cleanliness and healthiness maybe aren't aren't the same thing.
Speaker 2: So dude could not agree more.
Speaker 7: I swear to God if I don't wash my face
Speaker 7: for like, all right, this is disgusting, but whatever, who cares?
Speaker 7: If I don't wash my face for two days, I
Speaker 7: feel like my skin looks great, and then I'll wash
Speaker 7: it and then like a pimple will come up, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, I don't think this is right.
Speaker 6: But when I was on Special Forces for ten days,
Speaker 6: I didn't wash my face and my skin was so clear.
Speaker 6: The first few days. It was like, but when I
Speaker 6: got home, my skin broke out when I started using
Speaker 6: all my face stuff again.
Speaker 5: So there there is something too. It's probably actually getting
Speaker 5: alved in dirt out.
Speaker 3: There's the Yes, Okay, we do have a lot to
Speaker 3: talk to you about, but special Forces is one of
Speaker 3: them because I'm trying to get my husband on that show.
Speaker 1: Is pimples not one of the things you wanted to
Speaker 1: talk All right, let's let's pivot. Let's pivot away from pimples.
Speaker 4: I agree with darre The longer you go without washing
Speaker 4: your face, the cleaner it looks.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought? Not me?
Speaker 4: Just saying, but before we get to the Special Forces thing, Hannah,
Speaker 4: we want to congratulate you on your engagement. That's awesome,
Speaker 4: thank you. That was that was quite like a few
Speaker 4: months ago, wasn't it.
Speaker 6: I think, like, yeah, it was that that like like
Speaker 6: of last year.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we're we're just now it's been like a
Speaker 6: very busy season. But starting the wedding planning process.
Speaker 1: How that.
Speaker 6: I don't know why I decided to actually start the
Speaker 6: process while I'm trying to promote a big project that
Speaker 6: was like literally started doing it exactly when I was
Speaker 6: like it was everything was gearing up. So it started
Speaker 6: and it's stalled pretty quickly. But it's something I'm really
Speaker 6: looking forward to, like after this book is out into
Speaker 6: the world, like that it's going to be like my
Speaker 6: main focus because it is. It feels like it's like
Speaker 6: a full time job to do and I'm so excited
Speaker 6: for that time. But right now it's been it's been hard,
Speaker 6: and I'm really bad at making decisions about things, and
Speaker 6: I can like see things I'm like, well it can
Speaker 6: be good this way or this there's been people are
Speaker 6: smaller or in the country or let's go like it's
Speaker 6: just I have too many visions. So it's been tough,
Speaker 6: but I love that my partner is also like involved,
Speaker 6: like Adam, that's been really important that it like embodies.
Speaker 5: Both of us. And yeah, he's been helpful.
Speaker 1: That's great. Do you think I was helpful your wedding
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 3: No, But that's how I wanted it. I'm like type A,
Speaker 3: I need to make the decisions, but he was a
Speaker 3: little bit involved. So it is a full time job
Speaker 3: though it's like so time consuming but fun.
Speaker 1: It was hard.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't I have so many sleepless nights
Speaker 4: just thinking about things I wanted to be absolutely perfect.
Speaker 4: Does he have certain things that he really wants that
Speaker 4: you don't want that you guys are like clashing about
Speaker 4: it all.
Speaker 5: It's not that we have things that we that's really different.
Speaker 6: I think at first, like he wanted like a bigger
Speaker 6: wedding and like one of both of our you know,
Speaker 6: we're in therapy talk all the time, but like wounds
Speaker 6: is feeling like a burden in some way, So like
Speaker 6: us wanting to do what we want to do if
Speaker 6: that inconveniences other people, he has a really hard time
Speaker 6: with that. It's like, well this might not work for
Speaker 6: this person, this person, and this person, and like I
Speaker 6: can also feel that way, but he really, like I
Speaker 6: love that he deeply cares about other people, but sometimes
Speaker 6: to the detriment of like not making it the day
Speaker 6: that like it's.
Speaker 5: Special for us. So we've had to really work on.
Speaker 6: Of course we care about we want the people, like
Speaker 6: our people to be there, but let's make sure we
Speaker 6: don't lose sight of like this is a day to
Speaker 6: celebrate us, and what do we actually want, like whatever
Speaker 6: our non negotiables. So that's been something we've both had
Speaker 6: to work on, but something because he's like just so
Speaker 6: kind and cares so much about other people that we
Speaker 6: really had to to remember.
Speaker 5: That this is this is our day. So we've had
Speaker 5: those type of talks.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember one thing I really put my foot
Speaker 4: down about was I really wanted ice cream instead of
Speaker 4: like a traditional wedding cake birthday cake, and Kaylen was like, heck, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's do it right away. So that was like the
Speaker 4: that I'm pretty sure that was like the only thing
Speaker 4: that I really kind of stuck my foot down on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we struggled with that too. Like the price
Speaker 3: of our wedding, it was it was pretty expensive to
Speaker 3: go and that was something we signed the contract and
Speaker 3: then they changed the prices on us, so it's like
Speaker 3: we're kind of screwed here. But we strogg struggled with
Speaker 3: that too, where we're like, we don't want people to
Speaker 3: feel inconvenienced or like they can't afford it. It's tough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's been our biggest thing.
Speaker 6: We want to like, we want our people to be
Speaker 6: able to go.
Speaker 5: But yeah, y'all's wedding was so beautiful.
Speaker 6: By the way, my brother also got married in Colorado,
Speaker 6: and I just it's like the most beautiful backdrop and everything.
Speaker 6: We kind of thought about that, but because my brother
Speaker 6: done something similar, I want to I kind of want
Speaker 6: to do something opposite. And it's hard because we're both
Speaker 6: we're from different He's from Oklahoma, I'm from Alabama, and
Speaker 6: we live in Tennessee, but we met in California, so
Speaker 6: everybody that we know, like it's going to have to
Speaker 6: travel somewhere. So it's picking like where's the place that everybody's.
Speaker 5: Gonna meet up? And I want it to be like.
Speaker 6: It's I really care about like experiences, guest experience, Like
Speaker 6: I want it to feel like we're on a small,
Speaker 6: like two day trip as like friends and family together somewhere.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's it's fun, but I'm trying not to
Speaker 6: get like too involved. And then it's just like you said,
Speaker 6: it's so consuming. It takes a lot of work.
Speaker 4: So do you guys have an idea of where it's
Speaker 4: going to be then somewhere central or have you not
Speaker 4: gotten to that point.
Speaker 5: I feel like we haven't made the decision yet.
Speaker 6: But I've always really wanted to do international, and we
Speaker 6: have some places that we feel really connected in but
Speaker 6: we're still we're going like pricing, just trying to make
Speaker 6: sure that like it's all gonna work. But honestly, I
Speaker 6: look at other places and it's it's not that much
Speaker 6: different in calls in some ways too if we do
Speaker 6: something here in the US. So we're still in that
Speaker 6: like making that firm decision, all right, we're going overseas
Speaker 6: or if we are going to find somewhere here, but
Speaker 6: I think I think it'll be national.
Speaker 7: Do you have a timeframe of when the wedding might be.
Speaker 7: I'm really hoping not to give us an exact date.
Speaker 5: I don't have a date.
Speaker 6: I don't have a date, but I would think around
Speaker 6: this time next next year is what we're trying to
Speaker 6: get honed in. But I would need to if we're
Speaker 6: doing international, I need to go, of course, do some investigations.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a really good excuse to go travel somewhere.
Speaker 6: I know I'm always looking for when we were thinking
Speaker 6: about going for like going to Spain just for fun.
Speaker 6: But now if we are going to have to start
Speaker 6: looking at a few of these places, it might there
Speaker 6: might be some trips in our future to go look
Speaker 6: at different wedding venues.
Speaker 5: But like right now, I just can't even like I've
Speaker 5: got to get through which I'm not get through.
Speaker 6: I'm so excited to be talking about my new book,
Speaker 6: but trying to like really be fully here in this
Speaker 6: season and then go on to the next. So if
Speaker 6: you see us out on social media, like in some
Speaker 6: different places, there's a good chance it's.
Speaker 1: Your venue shopping.
Speaker 4: It's just a business, business trip, business trip. All right,
Speaker 4: you mentioned it, Anna, so let's talk about it. You're
Speaker 4: you're writing a book or your books? Is it out
Speaker 4: yet or.
Speaker 5: It comes out May seven?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Nice, So we're we're a couple of weeks away from
Speaker 4: the book coming out. That's very exciting. Can we hear
Speaker 4: about it? What's it about? What inspires you to write it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So this is my second book. My first book
Speaker 5: was a book more about my life. But this is
Speaker 5: a work of fiction. This is a novel.
Speaker 6: It's my very first novel called Mistakes We Never Made.
Speaker 6: It is a romance, which, of course from all of
Speaker 6: our background, like people love and are rooting for our
Speaker 6: journeys with love and as an avid reader myself, I
Speaker 6: love the romance genre. But I really wanted it to
Speaker 6: be something that the people who have supported me also
Speaker 6: really enjoyed so it just it just made sense. I've
Speaker 6: always enjoyed writing, like as a hobby, but it's been
Speaker 6: really cool to be able to.
Speaker 5: Really dive into.
Speaker 6: This part of my career as an author, and I've
Speaker 6: had like an amazing team to help me make this
Speaker 6: book what it is. But it's a story about a
Speaker 6: girl named Emma who is very type a uh. It
Speaker 6: feels like she has to control things, has to take
Speaker 6: care of people, and it's her best friend, Sybil's wedding,
Speaker 6: and unfortunately, her best friend is also really good friends
Speaker 6: with a guy from her past who was like always
Speaker 6: that almost guy that it almost worked out with but
Speaker 6: really never could figure out how to.
Speaker 5: Make it work.
Speaker 6: And they're all there for ony a weekend she's trying
Speaker 6: to keep under control until Sybil goes missing, and of
Speaker 6: course Emma feels like it's her duty to protect Sybil
Speaker 6: from making the worst mistake of her life, so her
Speaker 6: and Emma and Finn go on this road trip wild
Speaker 6: goose Chase to try to find Sybil, and in that time,
Speaker 6: we as readers kind of go on the journey of
Speaker 6: if these two can ever get it right and not
Speaker 6: make it in it and really be able to communicate
Speaker 6: and figure out why there was all these these series
Speaker 6: of almost So.
Speaker 5: It's a really fun book. I'm really proud of it.
Speaker 5: People really like it.
Speaker 4: Have you done much writing before, like, because for me,
Speaker 4: writing a book, especially nonfiction book where you have to wait, sorry, no,
Speaker 4: it is a fiction book. I always get those stories,
Speaker 4: get those guys always every single time. It's real and
Speaker 4: not real. It's just make it, make the real. Yeah, anyway, sorry,
Speaker 4: have you ever written anything like that before? Because for me,
Speaker 4: it's the only thing I can write about is drawing
Speaker 4: from personal experiences, and so the idea of writing something
Speaker 4: like that would be really challenging. So where did you
Speaker 4: get like the inspiration for the story and all that stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I've done some creative creative writing in
Speaker 6: the past, like in college.
Speaker 7: But like.
Speaker 6: I think you're so right, Dean, Like I don't think
Speaker 6: I could do just write something out of thin air,
Speaker 6: just like completely create it. Like there has to be
Speaker 6: truth in anything that I'm writing. So even for example,
Speaker 6: in this book, like Emma is not me, but she
Speaker 6: is a part of me, and her thoughts and feelings
Speaker 6: like are things that have come from like a true
Speaker 6: place even though like totally different situation, LI know, like
Speaker 6: different universe in a way, but this is it's all
Speaker 6: you know, fiction. But there is a group of like
Speaker 6: a core for so a best friend group, and in
Speaker 6: the book, that really was where this whole idea came from.
Speaker 6: And I think some of the best like loves in
Speaker 6: your life can be your female friendship. So like I
Speaker 6: really like wanted that to be a sinner. But also
Speaker 6: each of these girls is kind of like a part
Speaker 6: of me, Like there is a part of me. I
Speaker 6: don't know if I can fully find that part of
Speaker 6: Emma and me anymore. But I used to be like
Speaker 6: super like that type a like felt like I had
Speaker 6: to be perfect and do everything right, and like where
Speaker 6: that came from was a trauma and stuff in my past.
Speaker 6: And so Emma is also like there's a reason why
Speaker 6: she feels like she has to be in control and
Speaker 6: why she feels like it's her job to step up
Speaker 6: and we're about other things for other people, Like there's
Speaker 6: a there's a real route calls of that, and that's
Speaker 6: kind of a journey that Emma goes on, and it's
Speaker 6: a journey that I've had to go on and a
Speaker 6: lot of things in my life.
Speaker 5: So that's where like the truth and where.
Speaker 6: I could find like my uh footing when working on
Speaker 6: the story was that it had to come from something that,
Speaker 6: like I could really really write about because I have
Speaker 6: experienced Even though I have an experience going on a
Speaker 6: wild goose chase for my friend who's escaped her wedding,
Speaker 6: like I can't experience that. I don't know what that's like,
Speaker 6: but I can imagine that and create that. But the
Speaker 6: feeling she has in that, how would I feel if
Speaker 6: I was more or less of these parts of me?
Speaker 6: And that's that's kind of how I went on that
Speaker 6: creative journey.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to read it. How long did it take
Speaker 3: to write?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I think it's been about a two
Speaker 5: year process.
Speaker 6: I have a co author, Emily Laerbee, who is, you know,
Speaker 6: a professional, been doing this for years and years, so
Speaker 6: like without her, this would have probably taken me ten
Speaker 6: plus years to do because it's a lot of planning
Speaker 6: and you have to be really organized and like plot
Speaker 6: points and even sometimes like you'll have a whole idea
Speaker 6: of where the story goes and then it just doesn't work,
Speaker 6: and it's like, what do you do with that? Like
Speaker 6: those times I'd be like I don't know what to
Speaker 6: do and it's like, Okay, we have to go back
Speaker 6: and figure out what is working and how do we
Speaker 6: restructure that.
Speaker 5: And so it took up.
Speaker 6: It's been about a two year like whole process, but
Speaker 6: that is a pretty short amount of time in book world.
Speaker 6: And just really thankful for the people that kind of
Speaker 6: just helped me.
Speaker 5: And encouraged me that that we could we could do this.
Speaker 7: I think some of the best pieces of work, because
Speaker 7: you were talking, Hannah about Emma is a part of you,
Speaker 7: the main character in the book, but I think a
Speaker 7: lot of the best pieces of work, whether it be
Speaker 7: literature or movies or songs, because you know, songs are
Speaker 7: the first one to come to mind. Obviously Taylor Swift
Speaker 7: is on everybody's mind, but like there are a lot
Speaker 7: of pieces of her songs that are personal stories of
Speaker 7: hers that she projects or like she writes about and
Speaker 7: for other people to relate to. And it kind of
Speaker 7: feels like that's what you're talking about with this book,
Speaker 7: where like you are not Emma, but there is a
Speaker 7: part of you that is Emma. Or like Emma is
Speaker 7: a part of Hannah, and it really kind of creates
Speaker 7: a relatability. And I've always thought that creates like the
Speaker 7: best piece of work, not you creating just like a
Speaker 7: generic story in your head, but like having pieces of
Speaker 7: your own life put into this book and then just
Speaker 7: go off in different directions. I've always found that pretty interesting, even.
Speaker 6: With like on television, like people really relate to authenticity
Speaker 6: and people especially now they're just being so much content
Speaker 6: out there. People can sniff it out, you know, and
Speaker 6: that's in that's in books, that's in like songs like
Speaker 6: where where is that actually coming from? So I think
Speaker 6: it's really important, Like if I'm gonna do any type
Speaker 6: of project, it can't just be like just because because
Speaker 6: people can tell like that's not really Hannah are are?
Speaker 6: Are are true?
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think that also like from four people
Speaker 7: who's in who are in a zoom right now, all
Speaker 7: coming from Bachelor World, I think that's also true with
Speaker 7: reality TV. There is a like, for example, like my
Speaker 7: own I mean, sure, I'm Hannah, you can speak to
Speaker 7: this probably much better than myself. But like the journey
Speaker 7: that I took on the show of Bachelor, like the
Speaker 7: Jared that was shown on TV. Of course that's who
Speaker 7: I am, and that's that's a part of me. But
Speaker 7: there's so much more to that than people see, both
Speaker 7: good and bad. And that's why I love the title
Speaker 7: of your book, because it's the Mistakes that We've never made,
Speaker 7: And that makes me think introspectively, because it makes me
Speaker 7: think of life that like I find beauty in this,
Speaker 7: but I don't know if people will, like life is
Speaker 7: kind of a journey of making mistakes and there's nothing
Speaker 7: wrong with that, you know, And and so I like to
Speaker 7: title like the Mistakes that we never made because it
Speaker 7: makes me think like should we not? But it's it's
Speaker 7: a great title because it makes me think like should
Speaker 7: we not make the mistakes? Or should we make the
Speaker 7: mistakes and then learn from them? Or should we not
Speaker 7: make the mistakes? And maybe that will be the better
Speaker 7: direction to go down.
Speaker 5: Yes, Oh, I love that you said that, because like
Speaker 5: that's really like this whole book, like what it's about.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of times people will hold themselves
Speaker 6: back because they're scared of messing up making mistake. But
Speaker 6: like I think, especially you guys, know, like love takes risks,
Speaker 6: like you have like there's there is a risk and
Speaker 6: that whatever that decision to go for it can lead
Speaker 6: to heartbreak, but it can also lead to the most
Speaker 6: fulfilling like love.
Speaker 5: Story, but you have to take the risk to find that.
Speaker 6: And I think in my life, I've know, I know
Speaker 6: there's been times where I haven't done that, I've stopped
Speaker 6: myself because I was scared. And that's kind of where
Speaker 6: like this story, like is Emma feeling like she has
Speaker 6: to have it all together and make the best decisions
Speaker 6: and be the kind of stable grounded person. How many
Speaker 6: mistakes has she not made but has not led to
Speaker 6: her finding love and real joy and real peace, Like
Speaker 6: that's just part of life.
Speaker 4: Like you said, what do you hope that people get
Speaker 4: out of it when they read it? Because it sounds
Speaker 4: like there's some lessons that are to be learned from
Speaker 4: picking up and enjoying reading it. Is there anything specific
Speaker 4: that you hope people can take away from it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like kind of going back to where Emma is
Speaker 6: a part of me and she kind of goes on
Speaker 6: this journey.
Speaker 5: I think one thing.
Speaker 6: That's really important to me now is like whatever I'm
Speaker 6: like putting out there, like it needs to be an
Speaker 6: alignment to like what's important to me, and in this book,
Speaker 6: I hope that people, first of all, like you're taking
Speaker 6: the time to sit down and read. I know a
Speaker 6: lot of these books are escaped for people, but I
Speaker 6: think the best books are ones where you like really
Speaker 6: relate to the character and can see yourself and learn
Speaker 6: from the journey that Emma's going on and can learn
Speaker 6: something to take away for your own life. So I
Speaker 6: really hope that while this book is like super fun,
Speaker 6: quick fast read, that there's some character depth that maybe
Speaker 6: people will question, like if they see similarities in their
Speaker 6: life with Emma, why are what are the reasons that
Speaker 6: they've had these own adaptations where they would react similarly
Speaker 6: or are differently, and you know what, what.
Speaker 5: Areas in their life?
Speaker 6: Are they too scared to make the mistaken that that
Speaker 6: maybe they need to just like take that risk risk
Speaker 6: for love, risk for growth, risk for for change and.
Speaker 5: Can kind of be.
Speaker 6: Encouraged by this story of Emma and Finn.
Speaker 4: I see a lot of books behind you. Are there
Speaker 4: any books that you've read that made you draw inspiration from?
Speaker 6: So I really I just did an event with the Rakaserah.
Speaker 6: She's a big author in this space, and I love
Speaker 6: her books because of they're really fun quick reads, but
Speaker 6: there's uh her the depth of the characters, like I
Speaker 6: really just loved and so that was really important for
Speaker 6: me because these these books, you know, there are classic romance.
Speaker 6: Romance tropes like a are of course in my book,
Speaker 6: there's Second Chance and a Masa Lover is a road
Speaker 6: trip like that's so that's part of this genre, but
Speaker 6: they can kind of get a little some hit different
Speaker 6: than others that I really like once where I feel
Speaker 6: like like really connected and that takes a lot of
Speaker 6: background work and a lot of dialogue.
Speaker 5: Within the text. So I really.
Speaker 6: Was inspired by Rebecca Syl's writing. What she wrote like
Speaker 6: one Itime Summer in five years, she has a new
Speaker 6: one expiration Dates.
Speaker 5: I love Emily Henry.
Speaker 6: I feel like she's like a big name in the
Speaker 6: romance novel space because her books are just like so
Speaker 6: fun and light hearted and like give you that like
Speaker 6: satisfaction that a romance book kind of like tied with
Speaker 6: a nice bow love story, but also really fun characters.
Speaker 6: So those were my two biggest inspirations. But I also
Speaker 6: love like Carly Fortune and Abby Jimenez, Like there's.
Speaker 1: A lot yeah, have you, Caitlyn, have you read any
Speaker 1: of those.
Speaker 3: Authors I've been deep in like Fourth Wing and Acatar,
Speaker 3: so I haven't branched out from two.
Speaker 5: Great I've got them all up here too.
Speaker 3: Deep in that fantasy world right now.
Speaker 1: Isn't there like a romance aspect of those things, But
Speaker 1: it's not.
Speaker 6: To see or something I feel like that would be
Speaker 6: really hot, Like now doing this, I can't imagine. I
Speaker 6: can't imagine creating like I say, like a whole new universe.
Speaker 6: But it's still like these are different characters, but a
Speaker 6: lot of the places and things are inspired by places
Speaker 6: that I've been to, like creating a whole like fantasy land,
Speaker 6: and like naming different types of creatures.
Speaker 5: It's not real, Like I don't know.
Speaker 6: How somebody can do that, Like you have to be
Speaker 6: very super smart to do that.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's what I'm saying, or just really unhinged
Speaker 3: to have like the mind that allows you to create
Speaker 3: or that.
Speaker 4: But I love it, and they're immensely popular for a
Speaker 4: reason too. I feel like people love the escape and
Speaker 4: romance is no different too. I feel like when a
Speaker 4: lot of people read romance novels. I've read a few
Speaker 4: I've read Verity and some others.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 3: Scary, but I love Verity.
Speaker 4: It's all they do a good job of like making
Speaker 4: you feel like you're actually there, and I'm excited to
Speaker 4: read it. I need to get back on my reading
Speaker 4: grind a little bit more, but I'm sure once it
Speaker 4: comes out you said May seventh, and you said it
Speaker 4: was a quick read, which is kind of exactly what
Speaker 4: I want in order to get back into the whole
Speaker 4: reading thing. So, uh, what does your tour consist of?
Speaker 1: Right now? You're doing some media and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Are you going to do.
Speaker 4: Any like I don't really know how this whole system works.
Speaker 4: Are you gonna be like book signings or anything like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm actually going to LA this week. So
Speaker 6: I'm doing like it's called like the La Festival of Books,
Speaker 6: where they'll be a lot of different authors and I'll
Speaker 6: be all like on a panel for talking about these
Speaker 6: new books and like the Roman space, but doing a
Speaker 6: lot of like fun conversations with people like you guys.
Speaker 5: But then also once the book, like that week that.
Speaker 6: The book comes out, I'll be I have it on
Speaker 6: my Instagram, people, can I think there's like a link
Speaker 6: in my bio. But I'm going I have a few
Speaker 6: different tourist stops like in San Diego, Saint Louis, LA,
Speaker 6: New York, Nashville, and then my homestate Alabama, Bermi, Tuscaloosa,
Speaker 6: and yeah, I'll be doing book signings, taking pictures. Some
Speaker 6: of those are in conversations where there'll be like another
Speaker 6: author or writer that will ask me questions more about
Speaker 6: the book. So it'll be fun. There's tickets for those
Speaker 6: and people can can.
Speaker 2: Check that out.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 2: It's been a.
Speaker 5: Lot, but it's been fun.
Speaker 2: It's been yeah, Yeah, it is a lot of work.
Speaker 2: Press tour, bro Yes.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 4: That's why I never wrote a book. I just couldn't
Speaker 4: handle the press tour really is what it is.
Speaker 1: Sense are you for?
Speaker 4: Well, maybe not excited, it's not the right word, but
Speaker 4: for me personally, when someone comes up to me and
Speaker 4: they compliment something that I've done outside of being on television,
Speaker 4: Like Kaylin was telling me she's just in Denver and
Speaker 4: met some people that were like bragging about.
Speaker 2: Fourteen or D fourteen D because I climed.
Speaker 4: To all the fourteen Whenever someone recognized me recognizes me
Speaker 4: for doing something that was aside from the Bachelor. It
Speaker 4: makes me really giddy and excited. So are you are
Speaker 4: you do you like have the desire to not be
Speaker 4: hand of the Bachelorette and be more hand of the author.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm so thankful for Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Have any of these opportunities if I was not you know,
Speaker 5: on the Bachelor, atte the Bachelorette, Like I I love
Speaker 5: I'm so thankful for that. But it is really cool.
Speaker 5: I will say, like people store like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: you're seeing it was amazing, you.
Speaker 6: Know, It's so sweet and I love that. But when
Speaker 6: people are oh my gosh, I love your.
Speaker 5: Book or something, I'm like, oh my gosh, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: like it means it really does.
Speaker 6: It makes me that same that same thing, Like I
Speaker 6: get really giddy of like, oh, that's why you're like
Speaker 6: thanks something to me because I'm so different. Like I
Speaker 6: think sometimes when you're on reality t reality TV, people
Speaker 6: like no you like you Like Jared kind of said,
Speaker 6: like that was a part of me.
Speaker 5: But like that was such an extreme bubble part of
Speaker 5: me that like was was true in a way, but
Speaker 5: also like very curated and it's really nice for there
Speaker 5: to be other reasons or ways that people see me
Speaker 5: that they also connect to that is more like recent
Speaker 5: and yeah, that makes that makes me like definitely the
Speaker 5: most like honored.
Speaker 7: I get very giddy when everybody walks past me and
Speaker 7: they're like, hey, Tom Brady, I'm like, let's go. They
Speaker 7: just know me because I'm my love for number twelve. Hannah,
Speaker 7: what's Adam's last name?
Speaker 5: Bullard?
Speaker 7: Because you're so Ashley went through this as well. You know,
Speaker 7: Ashley is Ashley. I she's still actually I because she
Speaker 7: hasn't changed her last name, but you won't be Hannah
Speaker 7: b anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean who you talked about that? I mean,
Speaker 6: did you did Ashley not change her last name at all?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 7: I don't think legally No, still like Ken Eddie, I
Speaker 7: feel bad her last name is better than mine, like
Speaker 7: Dawson has to go with Haben, so his you know,
Speaker 7: Dawson Habin. It could be Dawson Iken Eddie, which I
Speaker 7: find so much better.
Speaker 5: But I haven't really like thought about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Hannah Brown Mollard. I think sounds fine.
Speaker 5: It was very nice, but I'm not taking I'm not taking.
Speaker 6: Away to Hannah b Like there's still gonna be there always.
Speaker 1: You can move Brown into middle to the middle.
Speaker 5: Because yeah, that's what I'll do. I'm going to move
Speaker 5: it to the middle.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, nice, Okay, cool, that's what I'm doing, Kaylen
Speaker 3: Miller Bell.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, well that's when we started the fingerprinting process.
Speaker 1: I put in Kaylen Marie Bell.
Speaker 3: Never mind. I guess.
Speaker 1: I think we could.
Speaker 4: Probably fix that. We're still pretty early on in the process.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, no, that's a big thing too. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've changed my last name, so I see exactly where
Speaker 4: guys are coming from.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 4: I like have started taking my friend's phones and asking
Speaker 4: to borrow their phone and I'll go into my contact
Speaker 4: and change it from Ungler to Bell. And even doing that,
Speaker 4: I feel like it just doesn't really feel right right now.
Speaker 6: You know, none of my friends from college, like I
Speaker 6: haven't changed one of their names. Like it's still like
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh whatever, Like, but it is a big deal.
Speaker 5: I guess, I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't I get like it is a big deal,
Speaker 6: like changing your name, but it's it's I'll always I'll always.
Speaker 5: Be Hannah Brown. It just rolls off the tongue better
Speaker 5: than Hannah Woolard too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the extra syllable or does kind of make it
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's a good last name. You know what's funny.
Speaker 7: You know we were talking about contacts in our phones
Speaker 7: because I haven't changed. Maybe I'm just not as sentimental
Speaker 7: as I thought I was. Like, for example, a lot
Speaker 7: of people from Bachelor, I have their first name and
Speaker 7: the last name as Bachelor, so I make sure I
Speaker 7: know who I'm talking to. For example, if I were
Speaker 7: to text this human being, Dean Bachelor is in my phone,
Speaker 7: so I don't know, I don't know what I'm saved
Speaker 7: as under yours.
Speaker 2: That's that's things a little bit coming from you. You're
Speaker 2: actually you're Jared Batch.
Speaker 7: In my head, I know I feel bad. You know
Speaker 7: you know why. You know why I feel bad? All right,
Speaker 7: I'll change it right now. But you know why I
Speaker 7: feel actually really bad about this because I have Nick
Speaker 7: saved in my phone as Nick viall and and it's like,
Speaker 7: wait a minute, wait a minute, this makes me feel horrible.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of those like I had Ben Batch
Speaker 4: for a while and he got mad at me. He's like,
Speaker 4: you have to put in Higgins instead. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's hard to go back. Even like my brother's wife,
Speaker 4: who they've been married now for four years and have
Speaker 4: two kids, it's still she's still on my phone.
Speaker 1: Is Ashley Brad's girlfriend?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you know, but.
Speaker 1: I guess it's not. It's not like I'm really texting
Speaker 1: her all that often.
Speaker 3: Anyways, Well, we still have Hannah here. Do you want
Speaker 3: to pick your brain about Special Forces?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, not really, and it's my dream to go
Speaker 1: on Special Forces.
Speaker 4: It seems like an absolute terrible time in the best
Speaker 4: way possible. And I'm so proud of you for winning.
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of Bachelor Universe for again following second
Speaker 4: season with some wins. Yeah, so they're great. How was
Speaker 4: that experience for you?
Speaker 5: I love that you say it's like terrible and the
Speaker 5: best way like it is like I I like weirdly
Speaker 5: like loved it, like hated it.
Speaker 6: It's like awesome the you applied me fine with this part,
Speaker 6: but the actual like not being able to.
Speaker 5: Shower, like there was literally like flies that like like
Speaker 5: I would go to the toilet area which is as
Speaker 5: a bucket, and there would be fifty flies just fly
Speaker 5: out of there and like you're it's just like disgusting.
Speaker 1: Like sounds like a regular Tuesday to me.
Speaker 6: That was really hard, like just being like fully just
Speaker 6: like uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: At all times.
Speaker 6: But I it really like what was like it made
Speaker 6: me come back and be like, Ooh, I've still got
Speaker 6: a lot of things to work on because why did
Speaker 6: I feel so comfortable in such a like like you really.
Speaker 5: Are and like fight or flight?
Speaker 6: Like why did that feel more comfortable to me than
Speaker 6: like my normal life? So I've really been having to
Speaker 6: work on that of like.
Speaker 5: Just past stuff, like.
Speaker 6: I think if you've gone through like different things, which
Speaker 6: I know like everybody had, like has.
Speaker 5: Haven't processed it.
Speaker 6: Like I felt like really weirdly comfortable waiting for like
Speaker 6: at any moment they could be.
Speaker 2: Like get up do that.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh yeah, yeh, I'm ready.
Speaker 6: But it was so it was so cool to be
Speaker 6: able to like really just see how how far I
Speaker 6: could push myself. And it was actually cool to be
Speaker 6: able to have people that have come from you know
Speaker 6: that our world Bachelor World will go and do it again,
Speaker 6: and then them to also be like oh no, like
Speaker 6: this was actually like really freaking hard because.
Speaker 5: I guess in my mind I thought, oh gosh, maybe
Speaker 5: I was just like lucky, like it didn't get hurt
Speaker 5: and like, but like no, like it was a really
Speaker 5: tough thing that I was able to like push through
Speaker 5: and really it's a very mental thing the whole time,
Speaker 5: Like I was definitely not the most fit out of everyone,
Speaker 5: but I didn't give up. And I think a lot
Speaker 5: of time, there's there's a lot of excuses to give up.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of things.
Speaker 6: That you could be like, this is bullshit, I don't
Speaker 6: have to do this, and I could go, like I
Speaker 6: had a full, like four week trip planned afterwards, I
Speaker 6: was like, I could be in Italy right now, and uh.
Speaker 5: Whenever I decided to leave, that's where I'm going.
Speaker 6: But I had to just be like, no, I I
Speaker 6: want to see this fully through and stay.
Speaker 5: And so it was. It was really cool. But the
Speaker 5: hardest part was definitely that last for me personally.
Speaker 6: And it's very interesting, like what people say is the
Speaker 6: hardest part for them, Like, like I said, overall, the
Speaker 6: environment was tough, but like for me, listening to the
Speaker 6: sounds for hours and hours and that last task I
Speaker 6: guess was the worst, was the worst part like I
Speaker 6: literally felt like I was like hallucinating like it was
Speaker 6: and being just so sleep deprived.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to do that again. I don't, I
Speaker 5: don't think. But then sometimes I'm like people ask like,
Speaker 5: would you do it again? I'm like, probably would, but
Speaker 5: I don't think I would survive again like it was.
Speaker 5: It was tough, but so I would love if you
Speaker 5: got to do it well.
Speaker 1: I would hope.
Speaker 4: So I don't think I'm a big enough fish for them.
Speaker 4: But if there was like a special force as all
Speaker 4: stars and they asked you, you would you think you would
Speaker 4: have to consider it.
Speaker 5: I would have to.
Speaker 6: Consider it because I think I would learn something about
Speaker 6: myself through it. And I think for me, sometimes I
Speaker 6: can get it can be really easy for me to
Speaker 6: stop pushing myself or to begin to think I'm weak
Speaker 6: in some way, and then I do really well in
Speaker 6: environments or or in that type of environment where there's
Speaker 6: nothing else going on, like everybody like there it wasn't
Speaker 6: actually like competing against anybody who's just like competing with yourself,
Speaker 6: like I do well in those things and there was
Speaker 6: no distraction of anything like I sometimes need that type
Speaker 6: of push to really see what I'm made of, because
Speaker 6: I can let a lot of distraction and different things
Speaker 6: in real life like.
Speaker 5: Make me not really give my best. So in a
Speaker 5: situation like that, I think I would have to go
Speaker 5: and just be like, well, I'm gonna learn and grow and.
Speaker 6: You get to do things that you would never normally
Speaker 6: get to do. I'm all about an experience.
Speaker 5: So it's like I got to ride in a black Hawk,
Speaker 5: Like that's freaking bad, Like that's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you think you do on survivor do
Speaker 3: you think it would be harder or do you think
Speaker 3: you'd be like this is so easy?
Speaker 6: No, I think it would be harder and in some
Speaker 6: ways because that's also like you're competing against people and
Speaker 6: like there's like some manipulation and stuff going on, Like
Speaker 6: I don't I think that would be tough.
Speaker 5: And the bugs would be hard.
Speaker 6: I was at least in the desert where there was flies,
Speaker 6: but I was having to deal with like bugs.
Speaker 5: Crawling all over me.
Speaker 6: I don't know how I would enjoy that part. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I think it would be I think it would be
Speaker 6: harder for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think also too, with special Forces, you kind of
Speaker 4: know that the timeline is shorter. So if you're like,
Speaker 4: I'll be in misery for twelve days, you're kind of like, okay,
Speaker 4: we at the end of twelve days, I'll be fine.
Speaker 4: It's like that type two fun stuff where it's so
Speaker 4: brutal in the moment, but then you look back with
Speaker 4: like such fond memories of.
Speaker 1: It, you know.
Speaker 4: Yes, those are the types of things that I think
Speaker 4: are my favorite whenever I do whenever I climb a
Speaker 4: mountain or whatever adventure I'm on and I'm like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, this sucks.
Speaker 1: This is terrifying.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm going to get through this, and
Speaker 4: again not to the same level as what you were
Speaker 4: through with special courses, but it like sucks in the
Speaker 4: moment and you're kind of regretting even being there. But
Speaker 4: then you finish it and you accomplish your goal, and
Speaker 4: then you look back a week, a month, a year later,
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh my god, that was maybe one
Speaker 4: of the best experiences of my life, even though in
Speaker 4: that moment you are so miserable and hated it, you know.
Speaker 6: So I really want to do some type of like
Speaker 6: mountain hike or something, because I actually think they'd be
Speaker 6: way harder because like they're like I I was still
Speaker 6: on a TV show, there was still a sense of
Speaker 6: even though I forgot like it felt there's no producers
Speaker 6: around you at all. Like I kept having to be like, Henny,
Speaker 6: you're not gonna die. You're not gonna die like these
Speaker 6: people like there's somebody watching there is. But like after
Speaker 6: the show, one of the there is like a a
Speaker 6: medic on staff and he was like, just really because
Speaker 6: I was. I went in there and I was just
Speaker 6: like I felt so less than just in general, like
Speaker 6: why am I here?
Speaker 5: There's a literally like everyone's some type of athlete.
Speaker 6: And also just had different types of careers, and I
Speaker 6: was just like this, I just.
Speaker 5: Feel like I don't know how I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 5: And he was just so like helpful.
Speaker 6: When I would have to go in there to like
Speaker 6: take my medicine or something, he was like, you got this.
Speaker 5: But at the end him and there's a.
Speaker 6: Psychiatrist that are therapists that like makes you have to
Speaker 6: be like checking everything in the right. I think it
Speaker 6: would be it's really good for you to have some
Speaker 6: type of like goals and and things to get yourself uncomfortable,
Speaker 6: to like push yourself through so one of them that
Speaker 6: I really want to do, but I keep just psych
Speaker 6: like not signing myself up to do. Is I want
Speaker 6: to like climb, like I think I could do Mount
Speaker 6: kilim and Jar maybe, but I'm scared of the cold.
Speaker 6: Like there's certain things that I'm like, well, let I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: but I don't want to.
Speaker 5: Be I don't want to be that cold up there.
Speaker 5: But I think it's so cool for people like you
Speaker 5: that like go and like just do the thing, because
Speaker 5: like I don't know, it's all my lists of things
Speaker 5: to do. I would and then my friends are like,
Speaker 5: why don't you just do the marathon. I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: that seems horrible, Like I'd rather like get the epic adventure.
Speaker 5: They're like, yeah, that's like days. You could just do
Speaker 5: this and you could just do the marathon in a day,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, no, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 5: if I want to do that.
Speaker 7: I did a half marathon this past Saturday and I
Speaker 7: could not recommend it.
Speaker 4: Let's oh, yeah, I saw you did that. I've been
Speaker 4: meaning to ask you about that. But Hannah, you could
Speaker 4: definitely do kill them in Jarrow. I have some friends
Speaker 4: who are not athletic because you are that I've done
Speaker 4: it and they said it's an awesome experience. Or you
Speaker 4: and Adam can just come to Colorado and we can
Speaker 4: double date up on top of a mountain somewhere.
Speaker 5: Hey, that could be a good that could be a
Speaker 5: good like starter, Yeah, to even see if I'd like
Speaker 5: to do that, because I've ever climbed any type of mountain.
Speaker 3: No, it's really not. It is so mental. I like
Speaker 3: don't enjoy it. And it's the type two fun again,
Speaker 3: Like when we right before Dean proposed, we went on
Speaker 3: a twenty mile hike and I was like crying and
Speaker 3: cussing at him and telling him I'd never hike with
Speaker 3: him again, and then he proposed. But it's like it's mental.
Speaker 3: It really wasn't that bad, but you're climbing it. You're like,
Speaker 3: this is miserable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but it showed it's worth it a lot
Speaker 6: about yourself and it's so cool.
Speaker 5: And then you can be like I just like it's
Speaker 5: so cool. You can be like, yeah, I hid twenty
Speaker 5: miles the other day, Like it's just cool to be
Speaker 5: able to say that you can do because a lot
Speaker 5: of people won't push themselves to do that. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I've got to decide for sure that's what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 5: because I'm thinking of Mount Killum and because then I
Speaker 5: can get an Aprica trip out of it. Like I'm
Speaker 5: always thinking, like, okay, we do that and then we
Speaker 5: go on safaris, so let's just uh do the hard
Speaker 5: the hard stuff.
Speaker 4: And then we went to Tanzania in December and we
Speaker 4: were able to see kill Majar from a great distance.
Speaker 4: Obviously we'd not got nowhere close to it, but the
Speaker 4: safari aspect was great. So if you can find a
Speaker 4: way to work both of those things into the same trip,
Speaker 4: like do Killy for the first two weeks and then
Speaker 4: do a safari for a week after, and then spend
Speaker 4: a week in you know, South Africa or something like
Speaker 4: that where you kind of like relax and decompress a
Speaker 4: little bit. Definitely worth it, but an we don't want
Speaker 4: to take up too much more of your tea.
Speaker 7: And it's such a mountain climber that he refers to
Speaker 7: Mount Kilimajara as killing like a nickname basis at this
Speaker 7: point that's what the cool kids called.
Speaker 2: You want to climb Killy over there, little Killy.
Speaker 4: Because I was looking into it because there's the Seven Summits,
Speaker 4: obviously the tallest continent or tallest mountain on each continent,
Speaker 4: which is pretty hard between like Everest and Mont Blanc and.
Speaker 1: I can Cogua pretty hard.
Speaker 4: But then there's also the seven Volcanic Summits, which I
Speaker 4: really wanted to do, which is a little bit easier.
Speaker 4: Minus there's one in Antarctica that's like super hard to
Speaker 4: get to, but Killy is like a cake walk compared
Speaker 4: to the rest of them.
Speaker 5: That's what I've heard. That's why I wanted to start
Speaker 5: with that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, I can do this, Like there
Speaker 6: was a girl on my sorority like in college.
Speaker 5: That did it.
Speaker 6: Like I know you can do it, but it's committing
Speaker 6: to something of like it's it's not always going to
Speaker 6: be that fun to just keep walking all day for
Speaker 6: days and days.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: When you're out there and all you have to do
Speaker 4: during the day is walk, it's like you're like, Oh,
Speaker 4: all I gotta do is walk twelve miles today, no problem.
Speaker 3: In your mind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, that's what I gonna do.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have self interception.
Speaker 4: My family is seven thousand miles away, Like all I
Speaker 4: have to do is walk twelve miles, all right, I
Speaker 4: guess I can do that. Yeah, if you start at
Speaker 4: like ten am or eleven am and you just got
Speaker 4: to walk for five or six hours and then you're
Speaker 4: there and you get eat dinner and go to sleep
Speaker 4: and wake up the next day and do it all
Speaker 4: over again.
Speaker 1: It's really nice. It's so fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, I really want to find a show for both
Speaker 3: of you. I feel like you guys are both very
Speaker 3: mentally tough and see and do get out and see
Speaker 3: who it went.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe we could just team up, actually.
Speaker 5: Team up up, Yeah, help each other.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting perspective.
Speaker 4: You have a special forces because it does, from the
Speaker 4: audience perspective, look like it's like a competition show. But
Speaker 4: really you're just competing against yourself, which it must be
Speaker 4: pretty nice.
Speaker 6: I never thought it was like I never felt that
Speaker 6: way because it was like I never.
Speaker 5: The expectation of me and the white Howard are you know?
Speaker 6: It's totally different like it is and yet it's it's
Speaker 6: the same, But it's just like how I don't know,
Speaker 6: I just I never felt that and and that wasn't
Speaker 6: a feeling like you're all just trying to survive together, genuinely,
Speaker 6: and you don't want more. You really, weirdly don't want
Speaker 6: people to leave because it would be better. There's more
Speaker 6: people there together when the morale like really low, you know,
Speaker 6: there's more people that can like hopefully are in a
Speaker 6: better place than you are, that can be like okay,
Speaker 6: like you're fine, you can get through this.
Speaker 5: So it's so cool. I wish I.
Speaker 6: Hope they continue doing the show and we could maybe
Speaker 6: just start a petition to get you on.
Speaker 5: It could work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if we get five hundred signatures, that's all will take.
Speaker 4: They'll have no choice. But Hannah, thank you so much
Speaker 4: for joining us. For the listeners, please be sure to
Speaker 4: check your book out. The Mistakes We Never Made is
Speaker 4: releasing on May seventh, twenty twenty four. For those that
Speaker 4: don't know, Hannah Brown is already in your time is
Speaker 4: best selling author. So we have high expectations for this.
Speaker 4: Not to put any more pressure on you than you
Speaker 4: already have, but high expectations.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to be great. We're excited to
Speaker 1: read it.
Speaker 4: Hopefully we can get a copy on May sixth, right
Speaker 4: before the day before it releases. Yeah, but Hannah, thank
Speaker 4: you for joining us.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. And congratulations on the b Thank
Speaker 1: you Anny.
Speaker 5: Oh it was so fun. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Before we wrap up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good job.
Speaker 3: We can't forget to say happy birthday too, too. Dean
Speaker 3: Michael Bell.
Speaker 1: Oh that's me.
Speaker 3: He's thirty three today.
Speaker 7: Oh today's you're thirty three, you young man, Happy birthday,
Speaker 7: brank you.
Speaker 1: It's my birthday. It's my birthday.
Speaker 2: I can podcast if you like your birthday.
Speaker 4: I like it because I can play golf without having
Speaker 4: to feel guilty about it.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 4: I like it because I can be in any mood
Speaker 4: I want, and I can get away with it whether
Speaker 4: I'm grumpy. Really, I could just be like, oo, it's
Speaker 4: my birthday. Sorry okay, but no, I don't really like it. Otherwise,
Speaker 4: there's not really much to celebrate at this stage. I
Speaker 4: feel like I got him.
Speaker 3: He opened his presence this morning and he was like thanks,
Speaker 3: just walked away. He never has reactions with gifts.
Speaker 1: It's like okay, you yes, and I was just waking up.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: We had to. I had to give it to him
Speaker 3: before the podcast. I just wanted to. I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate the gifts. They were so great. I
Speaker 4: got a golf shirt, and I got tickets to John Craigie,
Speaker 4: who's one of my favorite artists. And I got to
Speaker 4: spend time with my beautiful wife and Jared Jared Batch,
Speaker 4: I get to hang out with him, and you gets
Speaker 4: a golf all day. It's just a great day, Just
Speaker 4: a great, beautiful day to be alive. I'm just happy
Speaker 4: to be here, thirty three years young. I'm only a
Speaker 4: quarter of the way through my life at this point.
Speaker 1: So that's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're doing smath yep, yeah, yes, I am
Speaker 4: going to live to be one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 1: Two years old.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, mark my words.
Speaker 1: So it's like what I've still got?
Speaker 4: You only got ninety nine, got ninety nine years to go, man,
Speaker 4: that's not bad. Hopefully we're celebrating my ninety ninth birthday
Speaker 4: on this podcast.
Speaker 1: In sixty six.
Speaker 3: Years, yeah, we'll still be going strong.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I mean, obviously we've we've held this long. Why
Speaker 1: not keep going?
Speaker 7: But but yeah, Jared, what are you doing for my
Speaker 7: birthday today? I'm going to create a little shrine. I'm
Speaker 7: actually this Harry styles candle. This prayer candle, I'm just
Speaker 7: gonna tape your face over it and then pray to it.
Speaker 7: Later to Dean Bell, I met more.
Speaker 1: Like what does your day look like today? My birthday?
Speaker 1: Aside like not fround me, but just what are you
Speaker 1: doing today?
Speaker 2: Just working?
Speaker 7: I went to the gym this morning and then I
Speaker 7: went to Audrey's. And I have emails to answer, and
Speaker 7: I really want to read this book that I just got.
Speaker 2: I want to try to I read. I got it yesterday.
Speaker 7: I'm fifty pages in and I really want to try
Speaker 7: to finish it by this weekend. So it's I'm sure
Speaker 7: you've read it. It's called The Subtle Art of Not
Speaker 7: Giving an f Oh yeah, so have you read it?
Speaker 4: You me to that, so, oh yeah, it's good. I
Speaker 4: picked it up in India. It's the only English book
Speaker 4: on the rack. I read it and it was pretty good,
Speaker 4: quick read. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 7: It's very similar along the lines of Alan's book You're
Speaker 7: not that great, but neither is anybody else. And I
Speaker 7: love that mentality towards life, so because I think that
Speaker 7: we hold ourselves too high in expectations, and it's I
Speaker 7: think it's there's wonderfulness in realizing that you're not that special.
Speaker 7: But that's okay because we're in this together and sometimes
Speaker 7: you can mess up and be okay. So anyway, that's
Speaker 7: what I'm doing. But yeah, I ran that quick story,
Speaker 7: ran the half marathon. Didn't train for it at all,
Speaker 7: like a moron. I ran it in two hours and
Speaker 7: seventeen minutes. So I averaged about ten minutes thirty seconds
Speaker 7: per mile.
Speaker 3: Is it thirteen miles thirteen point one, thirteen point.
Speaker 7: One, thirteen point one, and my legs were killing me.
Speaker 7: And then Saturday, so my legs hurt pretty badly, but
Speaker 7: I was okay, they were just sore. And then of
Speaker 7: course as soon as I stopped running, I immediately was ill.
Speaker 7: I didn't throw up, but felt horrible. But then that
Speaker 7: day just scarf down. Tried to put as much food
Speaker 7: down as I could. I had McDonald's and I had pizza,
Speaker 7: just trying to like get as many calories in me
Speaker 7: as possible. But then the next day I had to
Speaker 7: go in to Audrey's at seven thirty and I went
Speaker 7: in and did like at nine am. I was like,
Speaker 7: this is not good. I felt so sick. I had
Speaker 7: to leave early. I left like eleven point thirty, went home,
Speaker 7: went to bed, and I just had chills and I
Speaker 7: felt nauseous and I just was achy, and I had
Speaker 7: the flu. And I looked it up and there's this
Speaker 7: thing called the marathon flu, which is much more common
Speaker 7: than people realize, which you can get pretty sick after
Speaker 7: putting your body through so much stress.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's because you didn't train, Like it
Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened to I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure that had a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: To go from an zero miles a day or anything
Speaker 1: very stupid. Eh.
Speaker 3: Are you going to do a full marathon now?
Speaker 1: No? Never?
Speaker 2: Never, never never ever?
Speaker 3: Well? Do you feel like proud of yourself or accomplished?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I feel very proud of myself. I feel very accomplished.
Speaker 7: It's funny how the day of when you're walking by
Speaker 7: people are It's very sweet. People are always like congratulations,
Speaker 7: congratulations because you're wearing your bib. Like when I was
Speaker 7: walking back to the car and they're like, congrats, congrats.
Speaker 2: I thank you. I feel I feel like I deserve congratulations.
Speaker 7: It's just funny how people congratulate you when I'm the
Speaker 7: one who signed up and I'm just running very sweet.
Speaker 3: Did you get shin splints or anything?
Speaker 1: No, luckily not.
Speaker 2: Everyone's been asked me that.
Speaker 3: I get shin splints from walking too fast.
Speaker 4: You've got you've got a weak growing, I think because
Speaker 4: maybe what a hip flexer remember what you heard on
Speaker 4: and have a sup eye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that does nothing to do with my shins.
Speaker 1: No, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that you would has a weak growing.
Speaker 1: I would just happy. I'd be worried about your growing
Speaker 1: more than your shins.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 1: Kiln's got a weak growing. Damn shin splints.
Speaker 4: But I do really admire you, Jared, for making that
Speaker 4: goal for yourself and then accomplishing it.
Speaker 1: That's great. That's something that I would never even dream
Speaker 1: of doing.
Speaker 7: So, oh yeah, the guy who climbs mounting and does
Speaker 7: all crazy show it jumps out of planes, you would
Speaker 7: never have the goal of doing something crazy like running
Speaker 7: a half marathon.
Speaker 1: It's different. I'll tell you why. It's different.
Speaker 4: When you climb a mountain, you're the whole time you're
Speaker 4: climbing it, you're like just so excited to get to
Speaker 4: the top and see the view and have the feeling
Speaker 4: of accomplishment of like climbing something you don't get that
Speaker 4: with a half marathon, Yes you got to finish, but
Speaker 4: there's not like necessarily a goal that you're striving towards.
Speaker 4: It's just the goal is to finish, you know, Whereas
Speaker 4: when you're climbing a mountain, the goal is to get
Speaker 4: on the top and eat your sandwich and enjoy the views,
Speaker 4: which is like, really the only thing that similar allows
Speaker 4: me to keep going. It's similar, but it's different. Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I personally couldn't run a half marathon.
Speaker 4: I signed up for a triathlon. Once they came I
Speaker 4: was sick and I couldn't do it. But maybe maybe
Speaker 4: you've inspired us to run our own half marathon. Let's
Speaker 4: do it in Colorado in August.
Speaker 1: No, okay, I'm not a runner, neither of mind that
Speaker 1: you have a week anyway.
Speaker 4: I think that's going to do it for this week's episode, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that will do it. Thanks for sticking through
Speaker 4: this half marathon with us, the listeners.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah it was a long one. This was
Speaker 1: a long one.
Speaker 4: Jared, thanks for being so physically fit. Caitlin, thank you
Speaker 4: for your beautiful hip flexers and you're just phenomenal. Shins
Speaker 4: and me and my pimple. We'll see you next week,
Speaker 4: where maybe we suck just a little bit less