WEBVTT - Going the Distance with Hannah Brown 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.160 This is Suckers. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.840 I'm Kailen Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared Han. 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:07.280 At iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.840 Hello everybody, Welcome to an all new episode of Suckers. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.840 I am Dean. My pimple is gone. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.079 We have Kaylin here in the same room as me 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.439 and Jared over in Rhode Island. Very special guest is 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.800 joining us this week on Suckers. I think we might 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.400 have talked about it a couple weeks. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.000 No, maybe not. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.440 But we have Hannah Brown, the one and only Hannah Bee, 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.480 joining us all the way from Nashville, Tennessee. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.159 Hi, Hannah, Hi, wait, I need to. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.360 Hear about this pimple. I had a pimple too. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.360 Do you see it on my forehead? 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:39.360 Not? 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.239 I mean, is it right right right here? That's like 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.600 darker yep. Oh. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.560 Kylen gave me some skincare serum and it kind of 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.360 knocked it out pretty quick, but it's still there's some 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:51.080 remnants there. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.680 Yeah. I mean, he just uses body lotion on his 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.440 face so clogged. His pours up pretty quick. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.360 But my skin was looking real young and fresh. 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.679 I had a really big like pimple that was inside 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.800 my nose that was making my whole nose swell on 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.640 one side, Like it looks like I had had really 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.759 bad rhinoplasty and I just had to take like medication. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.440 To get it to swell. Oh wow, Well, but it 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.280 didn't look like a pimple. It was just like mostly 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.639 just my nose looked swelling something. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.920 Yeah, I thought we were past the age of getting pimples. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.800 Like even in high school I kind of got them 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.720 a little bit, but not that much. But in our thirties, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:29.959 we should not be getting pimples. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.920 Oh my gosh. I agree. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:36.560 I had a really bad about Like Kaylen probably knows this. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.120 My skin blew up at like twenty three, and I 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.800 was like, what is happening to me? While I was 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.360 like on the Bachelor and everything, We're finally passed that. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.560 That was like a traumatizing experience for me. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.640 So I think it's probably all the stress. Maybe didn't 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:52.360 help you all that. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:58.320 Much, probably did not help naturally also. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.600 Too, Kaylen, I don't know, well you're experience was, but 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.600 I feel like, since you guys are wearing makeup so 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.160 often for that stuff, that can't be good for your skin, right, Yeah, 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:06.160 my skin wasn't happy. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.240 No, I don't think that that helped in any way. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.600 I think I was having like more like like internal 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:19.800 stuff going on. But yeah, that didn't make it where 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.720 I could like actually like let it settle down for sure. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.160 Oh man, Dean, you've had experiences where you probably haven't 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.799 washed your face in quite a long while, and then 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.400 now you are much more domesticated. My I'm curious because 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.440 I've thought about this. Do you think that your skin 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:41.120 is clearer with washing it consistently or not washing it? 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:41.799 Yeah? 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.840 I'm sure Kaylen would say my skin's never been cleaner 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.880 because I started using soap on it. But I think 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.200 personally cleanliness and healthiness maybe aren't aren't the same thing. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.040 So dude could not agree more. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.839 I swear to God if I don't wash my face 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.040 for like, all right, this is disgusting, but whatever, who cares? 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.720 If I don't wash my face for two days, I 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.720 feel like my skin looks great, and then I'll wash 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.120 it and then like a pimple will come up, and 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.000 I'm like, what is going on? 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.400 I'm gonna tell you, I don't think this is right. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.280 But when I was on Special Forces for ten days, 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.080 I didn't wash my face and my skin was so clear. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.880 The first few days. It was like, but when I 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.680 got home, my skin broke out when I started using 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.160 all my face stuff again. 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.200 So there there is something too. It's probably actually getting 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.200 alved in dirt out. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:31.959 There's the Yes, Okay, we do have a lot to 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.680 talk to you about, but special Forces is one of 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.600 them because I'm trying to get my husband on that show. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.360 Is pimples not one of the things you wanted to 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:42.960 talk All right, let's let's pivot. Let's pivot away from pimples. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.000 I agree with darre The longer you go without washing 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.120 your face, the cleaner it looks. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:47.240 Who would have thought? Not me? 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.480 Just saying, but before we get to the Special Forces thing, Hannah, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.800 we want to congratulate you on your engagement. That's awesome, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.680 thank you. That was that was quite like a few 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:56.680 months ago, wasn't it. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.720 I think, like, yeah, it was that that like like 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.080 of last year. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:01.800 Nice. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.960 So yeah, we're we're just now it's been like a 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.880 very busy season. But starting the wedding planning process. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:09.880 How that. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.960 I don't know why I decided to actually start the 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.400 process while I'm trying to promote a big project that 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:22.719 was like literally started doing it exactly when I was 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.320 like it was everything was gearing up. So it started 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.960 and it's stalled pretty quickly. But it's something I'm really 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.120 looking forward to, like after this book is out into 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.640 the world, like that it's going to be like my 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.880 main focus because it is. It feels like it's like 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:44.479 a full time job to do and I'm so excited 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:49.840 for that time. But right now it's been it's been hard, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.520 and I'm really bad at making decisions about things, and 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.280 I can like see things I'm like, well it can 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.760 be good this way or this there's been people are 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.880 smaller or in the country or let's go like it's 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.479 just I have too many visions. So it's been tough, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.080 but I love that my partner is also like involved, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.440 like Adam, that's been really important that it like embodies. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:17.239 Both of us. And yeah, he's been helpful. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.640 That's great. Do you think I was helpful your wedding 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:19.960 at all? 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.800 No, But that's how I wanted it. I'm like type A, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.520 I need to make the decisions, but he was a 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.840 little bit involved. So it is a full time job 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.320 though it's like so time consuming but fun. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:33.000 It was hard. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.359 I mean, I can't I have so many sleepless nights 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.440 just thinking about things I wanted to be absolutely perfect. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.680 Does he have certain things that he really wants that 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.240 you don't want that you guys are like clashing about 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:42.520 it all. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:49.760 It's not that we have things that we that's really different. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.320 I think at first, like he wanted like a bigger 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.240 wedding and like one of both of our you know, 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.279 we're in therapy talk all the time, but like wounds 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.520 is feeling like a burden in some way, So like 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.800 us wanting to do what we want to do if 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.360 that inconveniences other people, he has a really hard time 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.320 with that. It's like, well this might not work for 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.920 this person, this person, and this person, and like I 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.359 can also feel that way, but he really, like I 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.360 love that he deeply cares about other people, but sometimes 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.280 to the detriment of like not making it the day 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:22.159 that like it's. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.520 Special for us. So we've had to really work on. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.200 Of course we care about we want the people, like 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.600 our people to be there, but let's make sure we 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.279 don't lose sight of like this is a day to 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.039 celebrate us, and what do we actually want, like whatever 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:40.440 our non negotiables. So that's been something we've both had 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.880 to work on, but something because he's like just so 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.280 kind and cares so much about other people that we 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.040 really had to to remember. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.440 That this is this is our day. So we've had 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.320 those type of talks. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:52.800 Nice. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.440 Yeah, I remember one thing I really put my foot 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.560 down about was I really wanted ice cream instead of 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:01.279 like a traditional wedding cake birthday cake, and Kaylen was like, heck, yeah, 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:02.839 let's do it right away. So that was like the 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.800 that I'm pretty sure that was like the only thing 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.760 that I really kind of stuck my foot down on. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.600 Yeah, but we struggled with that too. Like the price 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.520 of our wedding, it was it was pretty expensive to 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.560 go and that was something we signed the contract and 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.480 then they changed the prices on us, so it's like 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.360 we're kind of screwed here. But we strogg struggled with 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.840 that too, where we're like, we don't want people to 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.480 feel inconvenienced or like they can't afford it. It's tough. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.640 Yeah, Yeah, that's been our biggest thing. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.000 We want to like, we want our people to be 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:31.640 able to go. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.760 But yeah, y'all's wedding was so beautiful. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.640 By the way, my brother also got married in Colorado, 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.880 and I just it's like the most beautiful backdrop and everything. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.840 We kind of thought about that, but because my brother 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.000 done something similar, I want to I kind of want 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.320 to do something opposite. And it's hard because we're both 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.600 we're from different He's from Oklahoma, I'm from Alabama, and 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.120 we live in Tennessee, but we met in California, so 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.160 everybody that we know, like it's going to have to 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:06.120 travel somewhere. So it's picking like where's the place that everybody's. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.240 Gonna meet up? And I want it to be like. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:14.240 It's I really care about like experiences, guest experience, Like 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.600 I want it to feel like we're on a small, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.400 like two day trip as like friends and family together somewhere. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:27.400 So yeah, it's it's fun, but I'm trying not to 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.600 get like too involved. And then it's just like you said, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.760 it's so consuming. It takes a lot of work. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.600 So do you guys have an idea of where it's 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.200 going to be then somewhere central or have you not 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.200 gotten to that point. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:44.200 I feel like we haven't made the decision yet. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.120 But I've always really wanted to do international, and we 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.160 have some places that we feel really connected in but 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.920 we're still we're going like pricing, just trying to make 0:08:54.960 --> 0:09:00.839 sure that like it's all gonna work. But honestly, I 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.160 look at other places and it's it's not that much 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.080 different in calls in some ways too if we do 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.160 something here in the US. So we're still in that 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.360 like making that firm decision, all right, we're going overseas 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.920 or if we are going to find somewhere here, but 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.000 I think I think it'll be national. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.680 Do you have a timeframe of when the wedding might be. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.400 I'm really hoping not to give us an exact date. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:28.280 I don't have a date. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.240 I don't have a date, but I would think around 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.800 this time next next year is what we're trying to 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:41.080 get honed in. But I would need to if we're 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:46.280 doing international, I need to go, of course, do some investigations. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.319 That sounds like a really good excuse to go travel somewhere. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.120 I know I'm always looking for when we were thinking 0:09:54.120 --> 0:10:00.560 about going for like going to Spain just for fun. 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.560 But now if we are going to have to start 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.640 looking at a few of these places, it might there 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.160 might be some trips in our future to go look 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.360 at different wedding venues. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.120 But like right now, I just can't even like I've 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.559 got to get through which I'm not get through. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.559 I'm so excited to be talking about my new book, 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.959 but trying to like really be fully here in this 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.760 season and then go on to the next. So if 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.920 you see us out on social media, like in some 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.120 different places, there's a good chance it's. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:35.880 Your venue shopping. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.120 It's just a business, business trip, business trip. All right, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.920 you mentioned it, Anna, so let's talk about it. You're 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.560 you're writing a book or your books? Is it out 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:43.200 yet or. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.000 It comes out May seven? 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:45.600 Okay? 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.240 Nice, So we're we're a couple of weeks away from 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.320 the book coming out. That's very exciting. Can we hear 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.760 about it? What's it about? What inspires you to write it? 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.559 Yeah? So this is my second book. My first book 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.400 was a book more about my life. But this is 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:01.880 a work of fiction. This is a novel. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.360 It's my very first novel called Mistakes We Never Made. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:10.959 It is a romance, which, of course from all of 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:15.400 our background, like people love and are rooting for our 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:20.760 journeys with love and as an avid reader myself, I 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.240 love the romance genre. But I really wanted it to 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.439 be something that the people who have supported me also 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.040 really enjoyed so it just it just made sense. I've 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:34.600 always enjoyed writing, like as a hobby, but it's been 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.079 really cool to be able to. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:38.880 Really dive into. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.719 This part of my career as an author, and I've 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.360 had like an amazing team to help me make this 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.240 book what it is. But it's a story about a 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.240 girl named Emma who is very type a uh. It 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.600 feels like she has to control things, has to take 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:01.000 care of people, and it's her best friend, Sybil's wedding, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.840 and unfortunately, her best friend is also really good friends 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.800 with a guy from her past who was like always 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.319 that almost guy that it almost worked out with but 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.600 really never could figure out how to. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.559 Make it work. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.040 And they're all there for ony a weekend she's trying 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.800 to keep under control until Sybil goes missing, and of 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:27.120 course Emma feels like it's her duty to protect Sybil 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.400 from making the worst mistake of her life, so her 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.760 and Emma and Finn go on this road trip wild 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.520 goose Chase to try to find Sybil, and in that time, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.240 we as readers kind of go on the journey of 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.400 if these two can ever get it right and not 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.959 make it in it and really be able to communicate 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.440 and figure out why there was all these these series 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:52.400 of almost So. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.760 It's a really fun book. I'm really proud of it. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:57.920 People really like it. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.120 Have you done much writing before, like, because for me, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.120 writing a book, especially nonfiction book where you have to wait, sorry, no, 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.800 it is a fiction book. I always get those stories, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.360 get those guys always every single time. It's real and 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.080 not real. It's just make it, make the real. Yeah, anyway, sorry, 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.440 have you ever written anything like that before? Because for me, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.600 it's the only thing I can write about is drawing 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.280 from personal experiences, and so the idea of writing something 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.880 like that would be really challenging. So where did you 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.360 get like the inspiration for the story and all that stuff. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.480 Yeah, I mean I've done some creative creative writing in 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:30.760 the past, like in college. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:31.240 But like. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.520 I think you're so right, Dean, Like I don't think 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.319 I could do just write something out of thin air, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.320 just like completely create it. Like there has to be 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.640 truth in anything that I'm writing. So even for example, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.760 in this book, like Emma is not me, but she 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.720 is a part of me, and her thoughts and feelings 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.800 like are things that have come from like a true 0:13:54.840 --> 0:14:00.280 place even though like totally different situation, LI know, like 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:04.880 different universe in a way, but this is it's all 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.920 you know, fiction. But there is a group of like 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.960 a core for so a best friend group, and in 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.120 the book, that really was where this whole idea came from. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:23.560 And I think some of the best like loves in 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.720 your life can be your female friendship. So like I 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.280 really like wanted that to be a sinner. But also 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.320 each of these girls is kind of like a part 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.600 of me, Like there is a part of me. I 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.080 don't know if I can fully find that part of 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.480 Emma and me anymore. But I used to be like 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.880 super like that type a like felt like I had 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.040 to be perfect and do everything right, and like where 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.960 that came from was a trauma and stuff in my past. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.360 And so Emma is also like there's a reason why 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.400 she feels like she has to be in control and 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.640 why she feels like it's her job to step up 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:02.360 and we're about other things for other people, Like there's 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.800 a there's a real route calls of that, and that's 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.600 kind of a journey that Emma goes on, and it's 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.000 a journey that I've had to go on and a 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.120 lot of things in my life. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.560 So that's where like the truth and where. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:19.640 I could find like my uh footing when working on 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.680 the story was that it had to come from something that, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.880 like I could really really write about because I have 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:30.040 experienced Even though I have an experience going on a 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.840 wild goose chase for my friend who's escaped her wedding, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.200 like I can't experience that. I don't know what that's like, 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.880 but I can imagine that and create that. But the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.200 feeling she has in that, how would I feel if 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.120 I was more or less of these parts of me? 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.480 And that's that's kind of how I went on that 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:49.560 creative journey. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:50.320 Nice. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:50.720 I love it. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.800 I'm excited to read it. How long did it take 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.120 to write? 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.960 Oh my gosh, I think it's been about a two 0:15:59.000 --> 0:15:59.840 year process. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.800 I have a co author, Emily Laerbee, who is, you know, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.120 a professional, been doing this for years and years, so 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.960 like without her, this would have probably taken me ten 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.400 plus years to do because it's a lot of planning 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.280 and you have to be really organized and like plot 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.560 points and even sometimes like you'll have a whole idea 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.440 of where the story goes and then it just doesn't work, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.080 and it's like, what do you do with that? Like 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.840 those times I'd be like I don't know what to 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.320 do and it's like, Okay, we have to go back 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.760 and figure out what is working and how do we 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:30.880 restructure that. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.560 And so it took up. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.080 It's been about a two year like whole process, but 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.640 that is a pretty short amount of time in book world. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.040 And just really thankful for the people that kind of 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:47.800 just helped me. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.520 And encouraged me that that we could we could do this. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.280 I think some of the best pieces of work, because 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.520 you were talking, Hannah about Emma is a part of you, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.080 the main character in the book, but I think a 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.600 lot of the best pieces of work, whether it be 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.959 literature or movies or songs, because you know, songs are 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.720 the first one to come to mind. Obviously Taylor Swift 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.880 is on everybody's mind, but like there are a lot 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.639 of pieces of her songs that are personal stories of 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.640 hers that she projects or like she writes about and 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.320 for other people to relate to. And it kind of 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:31.920 feels like that's what you're talking about with this book, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.240 where like you are not Emma, but there is a 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.440 part of you that is Emma. Or like Emma is 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.119 a part of Hannah, and it really kind of creates 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.320 a relatability. And I've always thought that creates like the 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.119 best piece of work, not you creating just like a 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.760 generic story in your head, but like having pieces of 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.359 your own life put into this book and then just 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:53.080 go off in different directions. I've always found that pretty interesting, even. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:58.640 With like on television, like people really relate to authenticity 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:03.440 and people especially now they're just being so much content 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.640 out there. People can sniff it out, you know, and 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.879 that's in that's in books, that's in like songs like 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.040 where where is that actually coming from? So I think 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.640 it's really important, Like if I'm gonna do any type 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.560 of project, it can't just be like just because because 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.920 people can tell like that's not really Hannah are are? 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:27.160 Are are true? 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.960 So yeah, I think that also like from four people 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.040 who's in who are in a zoom right now, all 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.320 coming from Bachelor World, I think that's also true with 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.320 reality TV. There is a like, for example, like my 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.679 own I mean, sure, I'm Hannah, you can speak to 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.200 this probably much better than myself. But like the journey 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.080 that I took on the show of Bachelor, like the 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.400 Jared that was shown on TV. Of course that's who 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.240 I am, and that's that's a part of me. But 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.720 there's so much more to that than people see, both 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.000 good and bad. And that's why I love the title 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.200 of your book, because it's the Mistakes that We've never made, 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.080 And that makes me think introspectively, because it makes me 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:09.600 think of life that like I find beauty in this, 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.119 but I don't know if people will, like life is 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.000 kind of a journey of making mistakes and there's nothing 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.280 wrong with that, you know, And and so I like to 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.119 title like the Mistakes that we never made because it 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.800 makes me think like should we not? But it's it's 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.480 a great title because it makes me think like should 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.560 we not make the mistakes? Or should we make the 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.199 mistakes and then learn from them? Or should we not 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.640 make the mistakes? And maybe that will be the better 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:34.440 direction to go down. 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.800 Yes, Oh, I love that you said that, because like 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.160 that's really like this whole book, like what it's about. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:44.280 I think a lot of times people will hold themselves 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.879 back because they're scared of messing up making mistake. But 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:55.440 like I think, especially you guys, know, like love takes risks, 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.679