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Speaker 1: for the future. Two part questions how do you replace

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Speaker 1: Julian And the other part is there was a play

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Speaker 1: last week with a deep pass down the middle and

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Speaker 1: left Jalen's hands. I said, it's gonna be picked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did the official distract? I mean, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: to as a love on that one in terms of

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Speaker 1: that one, but like there was I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it might have been a distract. You have

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Speaker 1: to ask Julian on that one. But you can't replace Julian.

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Speaker 1: You can't replace Julian. So, I mean, Julian brings so

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Speaker 1: much to our team. He's really a jack of all

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Speaker 1: trade in terms of he could play corner, you can

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Speaker 1: play safety, could play backer. So to me, there's no

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Speaker 1: replacing him. Um again, but we always got to talk

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Speaker 1: about the next man up again, you know, and whatever

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Speaker 1: the circumstances are, COVID injury, whatever, Like Guy's gotta be

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Speaker 1: able to come in and fill in roles, no different,

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Speaker 1: we're missing the coach, Like Guy's gotta be able to

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Speaker 1: step up. It's it's all part of the training process,

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Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of times when you lose

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Speaker 1: a critical piece like that, it's gonna have to be

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Speaker 1: multiple people as one take this role, unther take this

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Speaker 1: role because maybe you don't want to overload somebody. But

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Speaker 1: like if you take all that into consideration,