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Speaker 3: Conversation about we're talking Mike of course now a packer,

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Speaker 3: which is official, so he kind of just got to

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Speaker 3: move forward in that regard. But so the packers are

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Speaker 3: happy they got a guy. We heard, you know, their

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Speaker 3: coach talk about it. We've heard, of course now from

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones. We've heard a little bit from Micah today.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll play a little bit more of that a

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Speaker 4: Uh. But so you kind of see these things moving forward.

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Speaker 3: But if we were to look back into rearview mirror

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Speaker 3: a little bit, there are some contenders, some teams who

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Speaker 3: are right there who maybe they missed the boat. And

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Speaker 3: we talked about this earlier with some of our guests

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Speaker 3: when I said, hey, there are other teams that if

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Speaker 3: this was out there earlier, maybe they jump in. If

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Speaker 3: you're Jerry Jones say look, man, we love Mike is

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Speaker 3: just not working out. We're you know, we're accepting some

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Speaker 3: trade offers. You do this before the draft, you never

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Speaker 3: know you might have got even bigger haul.

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Speaker 4: And what you could have got.

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Speaker 3: And so now that we look at this, there's some

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Speaker 3: teams that you think, maybe, just maybe could have benefited

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Speaker 3: from the services of a Michael Parsons. And it reminds

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Speaker 3: me we've talked about this before, and of I call

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Speaker 3: it like hitman for hire. You know where you can

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Speaker 3: get a guy if you're right there, he can be

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Speaker 3: that piece that elevates you, that piece that takes you

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Speaker 4: And one of the conversations.

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Speaker 3: We've all been talking about is America's team and an

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Speaker 3: instances of this Alse Haley, who was on those those

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers team. He was obviously a great defensive end,

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Speaker 3: crazy talent, some might even say a little crazy off.

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Speaker 4: The field as well. I don't think you don't think

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Speaker 4: you have to quantify it. No, yeah, yeah, there's some

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Speaker 3: He goes to the Cowboys or right there, man, and

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Speaker 4: Away they get him.

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Speaker 3: He makes plays, and he makes plays in the NFC

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Speaker 3: This isn't the NBA where I get a Lebron Wow,

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Speaker 4: If you're Lamar Jackson, you've been right there.

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Speaker 3: You've been an AFC Championship games, or Josh Allen, you've

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Speaker 4: So it is interesting that these teams that were right.

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Speaker 3: like the with the Rams have done this. They've already

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Speaker 3: done this, They've had their Von Millers and all that, but.

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Speaker 4: But the Rams, the Rams are the cation point.

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Speaker 5: They went all in, traded the whole FM picks Mantra Win,

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Speaker 5: We go get Jalen Ramsey, we go get I mean

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Speaker 5: after they got Matthew Stafford, they said, we now we

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Speaker 3: And so you wonder if the Packers, obviously they this

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Speaker 4: We'll see what they do. And now they got their guys.

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Speaker 3: So to me, this just says, Jordan Love, you're officially

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Speaker 4: Since the other teams didn't do it, the teams that.

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Speaker 3: Well now you're on the clai Georde Locaz. They ain't

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Speaker 3: The clock has officially started, and we'll see what they're

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Speaker 5: So this is the thing that I don't understand, especially

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Speaker 5: recent in recent history. Give me one second year, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Jamal Adams or Deshaun Watson went for.

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Speaker 4: Six picks total right.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty two and a fully guaranteed contract, three

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Speaker 5: Khalil Mack to Bears, two first rounders, third and the sixth.

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Speaker 5: And that's just in the last you know, contemporary NFL history, right,

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Speaker 5: want to call Kenny Clark a third round value. I'm

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Speaker 5: not here to quibble, but you know he's not a

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Speaker 4: Keny Clark is thirty.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know how Brandon Bean goes to sleep

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Speaker 5: But who's gonna chase around Josh Allen? I mean, who's

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Speaker 5: after he just did some heroic stuff, right, Who's gonna

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 5: If I'm seriously, because that's what we've seen from the

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Speaker 5: Like that was not even part of the conversation. You

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Speaker 5: not to I'm not to blow another man's candle out

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Speaker 5: Honestly, if you're one of the two teams in the

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Speaker 5: if I would.

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Speaker 4: Be all in on this scenario.

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Speaker 5: And it made me wonder because Jerry said there was

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Speaker 5: Jerry Age's word when he says that, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if Jerry was doing the running down all the trade scenarios,

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Speaker 5: but the Cowboys have been in the NFL for too

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Speaker 5: algorithms to see what we could potentially get back from

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons, right, So like, I don't think like the

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Speaker 5: deals came together pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: I think he targeted the Packers.

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Speaker 5: Brom if you look go back through those deals that

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Speaker 5: I just stated Deshaun watching Jamal Adams, Laramie Tunsel, Khalil Matt,

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Speaker 5: team that made the trade would rather have their picks back.

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons just got paid. He just cleared by far

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Speaker 5: the cat like him and Jordan Love are gonna take

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Speaker 5: We're talking about Sam Donald as a legitimate starting quarterback

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Speaker 4: That was laughed about this time last year.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and then prior to that he had Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: We had a chance to talk about him throughout the week.

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Speaker 5: Either way, Arch Manning has a handful of starts right

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00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 5: less a peace sign of starts two, we're three right.

442
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 5: And when he was thrown out there against Georgia after

443
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 5: Sark kind of benched quinn Ewers in the middle of

444
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: that game, it wasn't like Arch came in and was

445
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 5: like just wheeling and dealing and.

446
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 4: Then he like it is phrase that Arch sat.

447
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 5: Behind quinn Eewers. Are we sure that Arch didn't just

448
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 5: not win the job? And I think those are and

449
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 5: that's fine if he didn't. But instead of talking about

450
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 5: how he is the next thing coming, like Sean King

451
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 5: has said initially, he's going in with a blank slate.

452
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 4: I'm with him on that. I don't know.

453
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 5: If arch Manning is supposed to be great because I've

454
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 5: never seen him play.

455
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 4: And unless you've seen Texas practice, guess what you have

456
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 4: it either. All right, So.

457
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: This is why I hear you, but I don't agree

458
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: with the overall premise because I do think seeing him practice.

459
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 3: I do think the prognosticators and the polks who would say,

460
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: you know, the elite scouts would say I saw this

461
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: when he was fifteen or sixteen. They would say, I've

462
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 3: been seeing this since he was in high school. And

463
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 3: that's what they do when it comes to these young

464
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: talented folks. And you can pick the sport, whether it

465
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: be MLB. We heard about Bryce Young before he really

466
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: was able to get on the scene.

467
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 4: Let's not even bring up a lebron right.

468
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: Because you're looking at the stature, you're looking at what

469
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: they're doing with their competition, and then you prognosticate what

470
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: could potentially be as well. And when you look at

471
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: what he was doing in high school, obviously one of

472
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: the best star five star with the best.

473
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks in the country.

474
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 3: You look at his size at six' four, two, whatever

475
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: you look at the difference between he and his.

476
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 4: Uncles they ain't running from.

477
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: Nobody if it was between the race and the, statue

478
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: the statue might have a. Chance Between peyton And, eli

479
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 3: now you got a guy who has big time arm,

480
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: strength who is maybe won't ultimately be as accurate as

481
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: a peton or something like.

482
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 4: THAT i, mean he is just he was the sheriff

483
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 4: for a.

484
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: Reason but he can sling that, thing and he's, mobile

485
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 3: and he can. Run and we just Had Sean kings

486
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: sit up. Here tell me he ain't gonna be like his.

487
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 3: Huncles he was more Like Josh. Allen, well, dang if

488
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: you're telling me he's gonna be like THE mvp That

489
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 3: eli never, Was i'm gonna take.

490
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 5: That that's the Same Sean king that said he's walking

491
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 5: into this thing with a blank slate on Arch. MANNING

492
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 5: i get the point that you're. Making i'm not taking.

493
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 5: AWAY i get that he has the. SIZE i get

494
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 5: that he has the, speed AND i get that These cooper's,

495
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 5: son Not peyton And eli. Son so the boy can

496
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 5: run Because cooper played wide.

497
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: Receiver there's a great wide.

498
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 5: Receiver, yes, Right SO i get all of, That but

499
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 5: the idea that we know That Arch manning is like

500
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: if you want to have a favorite for The heisman

501
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 5: because you Think texas would be really, good all.

502
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: Right i'm not having a big argument with.

503
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 5: THAT i also think don't think who the favorite at

504
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 5: a certain point in, time and a betting market is

505
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 5: as predictive as people make it out to. Be simply

506
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 5: because somebody is the favorite today does not mean much

507
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 5: for who you. Know go back and look at who

508
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 5: the top five favorites FOR mvp at the start of.

509
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: The year and who they are at the.

510
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 5: END i know, This Jared golf And Sham darnold weren't

511
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 5: near the top of the list right at the start

512
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: of the. Season right at the end of the, season

513
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 5: they both would have finished in the top ten when

514
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 5: you break it all. Down this is my. Point let's

515
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 5: let him do something. First, Now i'm the first to

516
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 5: tell you If Arch manning walks into The horseshoe and

517
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 5: throws a party On Ryan day and The Hio State,

518
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 5: BUCKEYES i will come in here On shaturday with An

519
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 5: Arts MANNING t shirt because he Beat Ohio. State BUT

520
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 5: i am not still about to sit up here and

521
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 5: say that he's gonna be the number one overall pick

522
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: because all last YEAR i Said Shador sanders was the

523
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 5: best quarterback in the.

524
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: CLASS i was dead.

525
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 5: Wrong BUT i had Seen shador play at least twelve

526
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 5: games at a high level and was watching him play

527
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 5: every single, YEAR i mean every single week leading up to.

528
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: It and now AS i watched him Play, BOY i was, Like,

529
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 4: OKAY i think it's gonna be Cam. WARD i think

530
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: it's be Cam.

531
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 5: Ward but like the idea That Arts manning is you're

532
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: slated in your number one, spot the idea that if

533
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 5: you if you, project he, said he'll be more Like Josh,

534
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 5: allen he Wool Jeore. Burrow all, right, COOL i get,

535
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 5: that whatever you want to had that, Conversation but today's

536
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 5: the number one overall pick. Today to, me IT'S i

537
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 5: just don't understand.

538
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: It see but they see that.

539
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: Happens that happens at times when We Kayleb williams could

540
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: have been a number one, pick you, know the year

541
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: he won The hides but he came.

542
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: Back we've done that all.

543
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: But think about, that think about what you just. Said

544
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: caleb won The heisman. EXACTLY i hear you on. That

545
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 3: but when they've had this thing locked in their head

546
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: that this person is that, guy and let alone the

547
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: pedigree in which he comes. With AND i do believe

548
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: that matters not so much is simply the, name but the.

549
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Pedigree Because Arch, Manning Archie manning played the, position played

550
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: at a high, level was in THE nfl for. Years

551
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 3: it would have been better if he was with another

552
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: team other than The Aints. WARS i, KNOW i knew

553
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: you were gonna say.

554
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 4: That my. Bad i'm. Sorry they with The aints, then all?

555
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: Right and then when they telling, you, no, Man i'm telling,

556
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: YOU i got another, one my. Son his Name's, peyton

557
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: And peyton lives up to. That, no, Man i'm telling,

558
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: YOU i got another. One it's my son And ELI

559
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: i kind of and they both become number one. Picks

560
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: i'm gonna jump on on the, limit say they know

561
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: what they're talking about when it comes to the quarterback.

562
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: Position and if they're looking at arch and they're, like,

563
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: oh he's one of the ones, Again i'm gonna jump

564
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: out on the limit and say they seem to know

565
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: what they're talking. About if nothing else in the, world

566
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: but with the quarterback, position they seem to have that on.

567
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: Lock so to, Me i'm looking at what he was

568
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 3: able to do in high, school looking at the, size

569
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: looking at the stripp.

570
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: Looking at the.

571
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: Pedigree i'm thinking this is absolutely gonna make. Sense, now

572
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: to your, point he's gonna if he comes out and is,

573
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: terrible WHICH i don't see that, happening then, yeah we're

574
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: gonna have to. Reconsider BUT i absolutely believe he's on the.

575
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: TRACK i also don't believe he's coming out next year

576
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think he has A i think he wants

577
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: to have a college. EXPERIENCE i think he wants to

578
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: become A Texas longhortan. LEGEND i think he wants to

579
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: be cemented and have a couple of years and try

580
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: to win a national. Title maybe A heisman comes with.

581
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 3: THAT i think he wants to have the full college.

582
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Experience AND i just got kind of started for a

583
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: year AND i left, out SO i don't think he's

584
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: not pressed. Either he make nil, money and if he

585
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: didn't make a single dag on, dime he was good

586
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 3: financially with the fam and all of, that SO i

587
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: fully expect him to play two. Years, PERSONALLY i think

588
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: he wants to be a college. Legend look WHAT i

589
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: did for a couple of years, starting and you have

590
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: to do that in. ORDER i don't think one year

591
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: will do it for, him just. Him other guys have

592
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: done the one. YEAR i don't think he'll do, that all,

593
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: Right Manzi. Milanios right, Now i'm gonna get a set

594
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: on what's Trending.

595
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,959
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Speaker 3: Live all, right she Is, Monzi thank, You Manti. Manzi

600
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: before you, go you got any Plans labor, day, weekend

601
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: plans to.

602
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 6: Be here and, work but, yeah aside from, that that's,

603
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 6: Right i'll be Here here's.

604
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: Right.

605
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: All?

606
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: Right, well enjoy your week being. Here enjoy all, right thank, You.

607
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: Monci it is THE i, Couple Kevin Washington martin weis

608
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: in on this funky flash Back. Friday if you got

609
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: AKD's a step Back joyce not. Cooperating some days your

610
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: body is just like. Nope and on those, days luckily

611
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: there is a leave with just one. PEEL a lead

612
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: provides up to twelve hours of pain relief so you

613
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: can keep.

614
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 4: Moving use as.

615
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: Directed we got last call here coming up in just

616
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: a little bit as.

617
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: Well we got a few more minutes before you have

618
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: to break.

619
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Here, martin The, colts we were talking about them a

620
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: little bit earlier about teams that just kind of have

621
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: kind of hovered around the last maybe say if you,

622
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: say like ten to twelve, years obviously the end of peyton.

623
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: Years they you, know it got rough before he.

624
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: Left they were fortunate to go From peyton greatness to,

625
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: boom falling Into andrew luck And, in which was you,

626
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: know supposed to be the guy for the next ten fifty,

627
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: years obviously cutting, short but had a pretty good run with.

628
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: Him then it's all just been. Rough ever, since.

629
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: It has not been good and they have absolutely the

630
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: quarterback position has been.

631
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: Terrible to.

632
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: ME i told the story that they had a, Chance

633
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: martin to be THE afc version of The, packers, right

634
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: you had, decade you, know however long it ended up

635
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: being exactly but all that time With, peyton did you

636
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: have a nice run With andrew lucking in him out

637
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: to a, ring but really good run With andrew and

638
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: you felt good and danget a few have stuck, around who,

639
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: knows and they could Have i've fallen right in line

640
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: and got the next guy up and, say, man, similarly

641
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: with The packers have, done we could have forty years

642
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: of great quarterback. Play but instead they jumped out on the.

643
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: Limb they Got Anthony. Richardson they did what they haven't

644
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: done and go get the sure. Thing they got a,

645
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: project and they got a guy who only had thirteen

646
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: starts in. College and to, me that set them on

647
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: the trajectory of playing less than what they had done

648
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: the last twenty five years of so give or take before.

649
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: That and now they just made some moves that you

650
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: just you don't understand what's going. On you got a

651
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: good running, back you've had some weapons here and, there

652
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: but they just all of a sudden have become something

653
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: that they hadn't been for so long where you don't buy,

654
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: it you don't believe.

655
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: It and you don't like the moves that they.

656
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 3: Make and now again you Got Daniel jones as your starting.

657
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 4: Quarterback how did we end up?

658
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: Here so you, Know i'll say, This you're, right The

659
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 5: calls have made a lot of moves that haven't made

660
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: a lot of sense in the last few. Years, richardson

661
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: whatever it had organizational, SUPPORT i though that some of

662
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 5: the cult that some of the scouts in the organization

663
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: were very very high on, him so.

664
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: That it publicly as.

665
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: Such but the biggest thing with the cults for me

666
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 5: is the piece that came out in The Washington post,

667
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: Yesterday and we didn't talk about it Because Michael parsons

668
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: blew all the news out of the water With Jerry

669
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: jones and. Everything but the most generous this is a

670
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 5: Massive Washington post. EXPOSE i encourage you all to read,

671
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: it and it's very at best, interesting at worst. Malicious

672
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: when you look at this story of jim irsay and

673
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 5: the way and really the way he lived his last

674
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: few years on, earth it seemed as, if at the,

675
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: best the people who were around him And a didn't

676
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 5: want to embarrass him on the way out because he

677
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: was having issues with. Drugs he was very public about

678
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 5: his issues with drugs and he had a kicking the

679
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: stigma was his his foundation that was started by his

680
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: daughters that now own the, team as you, know absorbed

681
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: the team in his. Passing but this report states that

682
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: there was a doctor that was injecting Jim, irsay a

683
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 5: noted self admitted drug addict with up to ten to

684
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: fourteen injections of ketamine a, day and that will kill

685
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: a perfectly healthy. PERSON i don't know in the realm

686
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: of care how that's a. Possible it the least generous

687
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: read of this is this is A Michael jackson two

688
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: point zero scenario where people were enabling and people were even, giving,

689
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 5: Essentially AND i am sympathetic to the concept that you

690
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: can only take an.

691
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: Addict so far you can only you, know you can

692
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 4: only take an.

693
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 5: Adult adults are going to make their own decisions every

694
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: step of the. Way but it seemed to me that

695
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: when people were trying to like take away the pills

696
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 5: From Jim, mercy they were getting. Fired according to this,

697
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: thing it's it's a lot to, handle and it would

698
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: be less fishy if The indianapolis cults weren't didn't have

699
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 5: that transfer of. Power but, honestly this goes back to

700
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 5: twenty twenty. THREE i remember remember two years ago the

701
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 5: whole running back summit Because Jonathan taylor couldn't get. Paid,

702
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: yep that falls in this window of, time and we're

703
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: thinking about how look at The jerry negotiations With Michael,

704
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: parsons how all that.

705
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: Goes we've said it we danced around.

706
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: It So, jerry you, Know jerry's eighty two years, Old

707
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: he's got, this, this, this and. That it's, like, well

708
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: what else was going on In coltsland When Jonathan taylor

709
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 5: was up for his? Extension AND i think that that's

710
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: a question that The Washington posts, asked and it's one

711
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: that if you're not kind of paying attention to, it.

712
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: The idea that this doctor is in.

713
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: Play it reminds me of reading some of the ones

714
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: that you hear from the guys, looks the celebrity conci

715
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 5: doctors WHO i, LOOK i didn't go to med school

716
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: In north stand at The Holiday Inn express last, Night

717
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: but you're telling me you're taking fourteen shots academy. TODAY

718
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: i don't. Know that seems to me to be a.

719
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: Lot let me tell you.

720
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: Something when you got a lot of, money you can

721
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: get what you. Want you have access to things that

722
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: the average person. Doesn't you have, resources and you know

723
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: what you also. Have, unfortunately you'll have the person who will, say, yes.

724
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: Sure hey, man CAN i? Know hey? Man CAN i? Know?

725
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: Hey you.

726
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Shouldn't that's not, good that's not. HEALTHY i won't be.

727
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: PROVIDED i won't be the one that's feeding you. Death

728
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: you keep going down the, line you're gonna find that

729
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: doctor to, say.

730
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: Well how much we.

731
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: Talking and, unfortunately when you're dealing with people who have

732
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: that disease and who have an, addiction that is.

733
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: Difficult and you mentioned something in this piece.

734
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: Too you had the nurse who was trying to tell them,

735
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: no she wouldn't give them the.

736
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: Pills she gets.

737
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: Fired and IT'S i reference that because it's a certain

738
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: point when someone makes up their, mind Like i'm locked into.

739
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: This it's just gonna, happen whether you ate me in

740
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: this or. Not that's where it becomes. Difficult and, unfortunately

741
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: you AND i were talking about this a little bit.

742
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: Yesterday you bring up To Michael. JACKSON i bring up

743
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: With Whitney. Houston you, know you, know you're getting ready

744
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: to be at The grammy's neck and the night before you,

745
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: know you, drugs using, them you die in a. Bathtub

746
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: and this IS i, mean you could just go down

747
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: the line of The kirk Cole. BAINS i, mean there

748
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: are just so many people who have had issues with

749
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: addiction and battles with, addiction and it's just dark because

750
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 3: then it starts to become, well you shouldn't have helped.

751
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: Them you shouldn't do, this and maybe that person shouldn't.

752
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: Have but if they want, it they're gonna get.

753
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: It you know WHAT i.

754
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: Mean and, so but to the to the tune of

755
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: how this plays out, professionally it's. Difficult, listen you AND

756
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: i have a rough day at. Home now you're, married

757
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: so with the wife or you, know you mentioned earlier

758
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: top of the, show got and rest in peace to

759
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: your family. Member but let's say she she hadn't passed,

760
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: yet but she was dealing with, that and you, know

761
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: maybe that's heavy in your. Heart coming to work is,

762
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: hard showing up knowing you got all this stuff on

763
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: going on that you got to deal, with and if

764
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: you're trying to run an organization that you, got you,

765
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: know fifty three but even before, that it ain't just

766
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: fifty three. Players you're not alone the, organization the front office,

767
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: people the, coaches and you're trying to handle that knowing

768
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: the owner of the team is dealing with some things

769
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: and we're trying to keep it. Secret that stuff can

770
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: wail on an, organization for, Sure and it's no wonder

771
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: that maybe the personal life trickles down to the organization

772
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: and why they haven't been able to be. Successful they had,

773
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: been you, know the previous twenty twenty plus, years so