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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's going on people? Happy Tuesday to you, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve's asking with you. One Bill's Live is the show.

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us. And you know we're

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Speaker 2: motoring into the meat of the week as the Bills

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Speaker 2: come off the buy and get ready for Week fourteen

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs at Arrowhead, and we'll get into our

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion in short order. Here. Wanted to first

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Speaker 2: congratulate Dion Dawkins. He is the Walter Peyton Man of

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Speaker 2: the Year nominee for the Buffalo Bills. There are thirty

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Speaker 2: two nominees. Only one player in the entire league is

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Speaker 2: obviously named Walter Peyton Man of the Year. But Dion

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Speaker 2: Dawkins is again a nominee, just like he was last year.

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Speaker 2: I believe he was the Walter Payton of the Year

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Speaker 2: nominee last year for the Bills. So we'll see if

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Speaker 2: the second time is a charm for him. So congrats

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Speaker 2: to Dion and all the good work he does in

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Speaker 2: our community. Well deserved. Pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 1: And there's a ton of guys who do such good

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Speaker 1: things in the community. It's good and you know, Dion's

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Speaker 1: one of those character guys as well. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: the sweetheart of a guy and his heart's in the

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Speaker 1: right place. And these guys actually they put some effort

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Speaker 1: into the city that they inhabit. Most of these guys,

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Speaker 1: well most of them are here not by choice. They

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Speaker 1: just they got got drafted, certainly free agents. You can say,

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Speaker 1: hey had a choice to make, but then this by

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Speaker 1: the same token, this is an adopted city for all

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Speaker 1: of these guys. And to see him make an effort

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Speaker 1: in a city that has put their arms around him

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Speaker 1: And it happens a lot more than you than just

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not just Dion Dawkins on the team.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of guys that do good things. But

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Speaker 1: Dion being recognized for it is kind of cool, very

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Speaker 1: question very.

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Speaker 2: Quick, and not for nothing. He is killing it on

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Speaker 2: the field right now. He is having a great season.

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Speaker 2: That pulls scheme that they use in the run game

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Speaker 2: where they bring him all the way to the lefts

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Speaker 2: leads the running back through the hole. He is obliterating

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Speaker 2: human beings like knocking him into next week. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it looks like a wrestling move. Sometimes when he comes

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing that most people don't get when

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Speaker 1: you and I tell people, if you ever get a

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Speaker 1: chance to watch the in the NFL from the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: I've done, you know, a thousand times, not a thousand,

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Speaker 2: It's one hundreds of times, several hundred.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the game aim from the sidelines over the

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Speaker 1: course of thirty five years. And I tell people this,

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Speaker 1: if you ever get a chance to do that down there,

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Speaker 1: don't because you'll never want to see any playself. Every

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Speaker 1: these guys it's live stock down there fighting. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's it really is something unbelievable. How fast those

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Speaker 1: It's got this radioactive glow that you can feel more

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Speaker 2: It's compelling.

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Speaker 1: And that's why the game is so seductive to coaches,

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Speaker 1: to players, guys who play for long. You know, you

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Speaker 1: got these guys that hang on and hang on and

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Speaker 1: hang on because it's it's special. And you get guys

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Speaker 1: like Dion Dawkins who you walk into, you said it,

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Speaker 1: these days with me and Dion and these guys. He

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Speaker 1: you and I I know that aren't on the team.

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Speaker 1: Supremely gifted guys, and it's amazing to watch him go

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Speaker 1: out and play. We say play, it's it's it's a

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Speaker 2: I mean, Eric Wood says it all the time on

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Speaker 2: the radio broadcast when we're doing the games. When that

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Speaker 2: There's about three or four tackles in the league that

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Speaker 1: He and he gets out and runs, he strides out

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Speaker 2: So the team will be back on the practice field tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'll obviously have all of our practice updates for you.

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Speaker 2: Knowing there are some players in the secondary who didn't

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Speaker 2: status is coming into this week. Dan Jackson, Taylor Rapp

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Speaker 2: the most notable. But let's go around the NFL, which

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Speaker 2: is presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with Monday Night Football Steve,

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Speaker 2: a game won by the Cincinnati Bengals with their backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback Jake Browning as they improve to six and six

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Speaker 2: on the season, and in doing so, leapfrog the Bills,

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Speaker 2: pushing them down into eleventh place. Both teams are six

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Speaker 2: and six, but the Bengals have the head to head tiebreaker,

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Speaker 2: and this is the problem that the Bills are dealing with. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they have five games and they're probably gonna have to

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Speaker 2: win them all to ensure anything concerning the postseason. But

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Speaker 2: you really needed Jacksonville to help you out last night,

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Speaker 2: and they did not. Trevor Lawrence also got injured late

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Speaker 2: did not return. And the official word on his injury

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Speaker 2: today high ankle sprain. So there's a good chance he

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Speaker 2: will miss some time. And the Jags are in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a division race now. They got teams hot

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Speaker 2: on their heels. You know, They've got Houston right behind

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Speaker 2: them at seven and five. India is at seven and five,

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Speaker 2: and these guys fell to what nine and four. I

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Speaker 2: think they're nine and four, So they're a game and

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Speaker 2: they're in a race now, or they're eight.

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Speaker 1: And four, eight and four, they're a game up on

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Speaker 2: It's a race there.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: And you may not have Trevor Lawrence. You don't have

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Speaker 2: neither do the Colts right now. They're going with Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 1: But Gardner Minshew's got some chops and.

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Speaker 2: He's played the last six weeks seven weeks, right, So

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Speaker 2: they're making it work with Gardner Minshew and Shane Stike,

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Speaker 2: to Gardner Minshew rather than Anthony Richardson. Truth be told,

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Speaker 1: Think that Gardner Minshew long term, over the course of

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Speaker 1: the entire season, is probably more an NFL like talent

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Speaker 1: and let him play. But Gardner Minshew is We've seen

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Speaker 1: him play like this. It's been a roller coaster certainly

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Speaker 1: at times in his career. That's why he's not taking

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Speaker 1: nobody's planning on having him start the whole season. But

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Speaker 1: he's good enough to win with. And the way they're

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Speaker 1: playing their offense working around him, yeah, that's good. That

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Speaker 1: division is really interesting all of a sudden, right, particularly

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Speaker 2: But if you're a Bills fan, you want Jacksonville to

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Speaker 2: go win the division. Why because you don't want him

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Speaker 2: have the head to head tiebreaker on Buffalo, just like Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I go around this all the time with Brownie. He's

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Speaker 1: worried about all these hits. Listen, all you need to

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Speaker 1: do is just work. Just have everybody else lose all.

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Speaker 1: there you go. Just keep on doing that.

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Speaker 2: Well it's not working. That's because we have no I

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Speaker 2: need a Jacksonville to win, not lose. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 2: they're still in the division lead. So okay, we can breathe.

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Speaker 1: Let me just see philosophically. Here, here's where we are

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, folks. Brownie and I've been we talk

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Speaker 1: are sitting there exactly where the Bills have been throughout

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Speaker 1: almost every loss they've had over the past three seasons.

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Speaker 1: Most of them is you get down to it and

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Speaker 1: it's like one play at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: The NFL has surged and made it a priority to

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Speaker 1: get all these teams as equal as possible. They want

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Speaker 1: it's such a competitive league, and all these games, even

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Speaker 1: You get this where the whole league is hinging on

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Speaker 1: it's probably a good place to be because these teams

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Speaker 1: you got the Niners steamrolling people, and then a couple

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's happening all over the league.

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Speaker 2: It is so unbelievably unpredictable.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that is constantly and it is and

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Speaker 1: the NFL season plays out is the unpredictable nature of injuries.

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Speaker 1: We saw it again last night. Jacksonville comes out with

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Speaker 2: Christian kirk. Kirk is colossial injury. He's gonna need sports

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Speaker 1: That is the most it's the most unbelievably unpredictable thing,

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Speaker 1: because we all know it. The league is all about

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Speaker 1: keeping Green Bay and New Orleans and Buffalo's and the

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Speaker 1: can all win it. And man o, man, you get

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Speaker 2: Twelve deep. We're thirteen games into this. Yeah, the problem

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that, Yeah, don't worry about it was

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Speaker 2: Well that's what you get, you know, winnable games.

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Speaker 1: Denver has this great radio. I know that people are

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, They've scored twelve and nineteen points

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Speaker 2: The quarterback attrition rate this year is startling and Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Well, you finish with a little bit of a floor.

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Speaker 2: the last two games for them, Tim Boyle. Thanks for coming, Tim.

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Speaker 1: The Tim Boyle era as a New York Jet is

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Speaker 1: the era is now over to.

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Speaker 2: He's gone the way of the Ray Lucases and you

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Speaker 1: My my, my cynicism about New York and what happens

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Speaker 2: I think the only thing that is saving Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: I would not do it because I you know, you

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm saying he's not going any They're

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Speaker 1: For next year because if because if Robert Salad goes,

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Speaker 2: So that's that those are the dominoes that.

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Speaker 2: They make that, they would be the Jetsiest thing.

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Speaker 1: If they make Nate Jackets, if they make Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 2: I would acknowledge that, But no, I don't think those

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Speaker 1: because the kid's gonna be running for his life.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get them offensive linemen. That's where you.

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Speaker 1: Start, speaking of start before you even get a chance

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Speaker 1: to draft the kid.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Saints quarterback Derek Carr is in concussion

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Speaker 2: protocol for the second time in a month, due in

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Speaker 2: part to protection issues down there. And we know the

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Speaker 2: dangers of these things when they happen in quick succession

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Speaker 2: and they're not separated by much time one to the next.

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Speaker 2: And that is where Derek Carr is right now. You

443
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Speaker 2: got two concussions in a month. I'm you gotta shut

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Speaker 2: that guy down for the rest of the season, right

445
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Speaker 2: you can't have him. I mean, he's obviously not playing

446
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Speaker 2: this week. It's but you can't have three in six

447
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Speaker 2: or seven weeks. I mean, that's just.

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Speaker 1: You got to go into the tow a tongue Bai

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Speaker 1: lower protocol, just to let him sit and re evaluate.

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Speaker 1: The guys had a tremendous career, a really productive career.

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Speaker 1: Was the face of the Raiders franchise through thick and

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Speaker 1: thin for nine years.

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Speaker 2: And move where they are now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right at quarterback exactly. And the Raiders, you know,

455
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Speaker 1: botched it in my opinion, and the proof is in

456
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Speaker 1: the pudding. If I'm Derek Carr, you and I get it.

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Speaker 1: Just like what I said, the game's hard to say

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Speaker 1: goodbye to until you start going through stuff like he's

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Speaker 1: going through. And I'm not making decisions for him, but

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Speaker 1: you know, the people who he loves and respects in

461
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Speaker 1: his life are looking at him, putting their hand on

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Speaker 1: his shoulder and saying, listen, bro, you don't need this.

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Speaker 1: You got this team is a light years away from

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Speaker 1: contending in a bad division. And you're thirty what thirty four?

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Speaker 1: You've made dozens of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're five and seven. Be a dad, you know,

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Speaker 2: go be a dad two and five in the conference, dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? You know?

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Speaker 1: And cause I got a lot of respect for Darry

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Speaker 1: I think he has held his head high and done

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Speaker 1: the right thing, right down every step of his career

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Speaker 1: and from a million miles away that we are, you know,

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Speaker 1: being these you got a lot of You gotta respect

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Speaker 1: what that guy went through and did for the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and now what he's attempting to do for the for

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Speaker 1: the Saints. That's tough, man. Two two concussions in a month. Man,

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Speaker 1: you start feel for these guys, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm it's amazing to me. Atlanta is the division leader

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Speaker 2: in the NFC South at six and six, six and

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Speaker 2: six leading the division. Could be US six and six. Well,

481
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Speaker 2: you're not in the NFC their palace, I know, and

482
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Speaker 2: they're four, but they're they're a game ahead in the conference.

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Speaker 2: They're four and four in their conference.

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Speaker 1: My gos, it's so bad over there.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Final note, and we saw this late yesterday. This

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Speaker 2: came down special teams coordinator for the Titans, Craig Ackerman,

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Speaker 2: fired yesterday by Mike Vrabel as the Titans fell to

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Speaker 2: the Colts in overtime due in part to two blocked kicks.

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Speaker 2: So two block kicks in the same game, and from

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Speaker 2: I didn't see them myself, but from what I read,

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Speaker 2: they were on similar plays. So it happened once and

492
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Speaker 2: you did not fix it, and it happened again and

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Speaker 2: you lose by three in overtime or did it lose

494
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Speaker 2: by six? What was it forty one to thirty five

495
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Speaker 2: or something. I can't remember what the final was, but

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Speaker 2: two blocked kicks. Yeah, that one got returned for a

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Speaker 2: touchdown Tennessee the Colts game. Yeah, yeah, doesn't matter. They lost,

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately it costs the special teams coordinator his job. Oof.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and that that'll do it. It's yeah, thirty

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Speaker 1: one to twenty eight was a final. They it's interesting,

501
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Speaker 1: what's what's gonna happen? And you see, because it's getting

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Speaker 1: to that point of the season. Well, we've already seen

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Speaker 1: one head coach, Frank Reich, lose his job. We've seen

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Speaker 1: teams now start to overperform, underperform, and you know, expectations missed.

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Speaker 1: Certainly the Bills are part of that conversation. At six

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Speaker 1: and six. Nobody had them at this point of the season.

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Speaker 1: So you start looking around at how the league's landscape

508
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: is going to change and when it's going to start

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00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: to happen. Now it's you know, the Cardinals sit here

510
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Speaker 1: once again at three and ten. You know, it's like

511
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Speaker 1: a yearly event, Washington. You thought they might have it

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Speaker 1: together this year.

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Speaker 2: No, not so much. Yeah. That is around the NFL

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Speaker 2: presented by Collide Healthy, official health care system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Topic of discussion for you today with the

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Speaker 2: Bills coming off the by Which Bills player are you

517
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Speaker 2: looking for to break out during the stretch run? You

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Speaker 2: let us know it eight h three zero five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two five

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Speaker 2: point fifty. Maybe it's a player that got hot going

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Speaker 2: into the buy and you're expecting that to continue coming

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Speaker 2: out of the buye. Maybe it's someone that hasn't caught

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Speaker 2: fire yet that you believe is poised for a breakout

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Speaker 2: five game stretch here on a playoff push. Whoever you

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Speaker 2: have in mind, you let us know eight oh three

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Speaker 2: h five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty. Then I'm gonna get on board. If you

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Speaker 2: don't have time to call us, you can hit us

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Speaker 2: up on the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live. Which

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Speaker 2: Bill's player are you looking forward to break out after

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Speaker 2: the bye during this stretch run and playoff push? Anybody

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Speaker 2: come to mind immediately for you Steve like I got

533
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Speaker 2: a guy. I don't know why, but I just feel

534
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: like Greg Russo has very quietly been playing some better

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Speaker 2: football here in recent weeks. I don't know if his

536
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Speaker 2: foot's all better. Maybe the bye week helps in that

537
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: regard as well, But I think if he can be

538
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Speaker 2: that third element in the pass rush and the run

539
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: front with Oliver and Floyd, you really cause opposing offensive

540
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: lines problem. And I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 2: he kind of takes off in the last five games here.

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Speaker 2: I like that. And he's great on the run front, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 1: He plays with he's so tall, and he plays with

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Speaker 1: such great leverage though he gets he gets his hips

546
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Speaker 1: low and has those I mean, you can't get near

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Speaker 1: him to block him, and he holds you off and

548
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: holds the holds the edge so well and covers such

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Speaker 1: ground with fewer steps because he so has such length,

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Speaker 1: really great run stopper because of his ability to shut

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Speaker 1: down a running back's vision even though he can only

552
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Speaker 1: take one side. He you know, it's you're trying to run.

553
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Speaker 1: You're trying to run around a picket fence. You know

554
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Speaker 1: you got to go all the way around the end

555
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Speaker 1: or a pterodactyl. Right, So, I like we've you and

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Speaker 1: I have always liked Rousseau is a run, run, fit guy,

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Speaker 1: and there have been times in his career where he

558
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Speaker 1: has really shown a pass rush ability, but he seems

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Speaker 1: to always be nicked, which kind of hampers him.

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Speaker 2: That's why I kind of picked him for this because

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping to coming off the bye week, he feels better,

562
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Speaker 2: he's healthier, and he can just go.

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Speaker 1: He's always played hurt, which is a huge boost for

564
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Speaker 1: guys and you know, earning respect and trust to their

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Speaker 1: coaches and and I mean that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: You kind of do that for the guys you love

567
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Speaker 1: and respect for on the in the locker room, you

568
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Speaker 1: kind of try and go when you can go, even

569
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Speaker 1: if you're not one hundred percent. Everybody does it. He

570
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Speaker 1: seems to have to do it a lot and uh

571
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Speaker 1: and plays well. But you can always seem to tell

572
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Speaker 1: when that guy's one hundred percent healthy. Man, he is

573
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Speaker 1: a force.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, which Bill's player are you looking for to

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Speaker 2: break out after the bye during this stretch run and

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Speaker 2: playoff push over these last five weeks. You let us

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Speaker 2: know at eight h three oh five fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: get on board your phone calls next here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, Which bales player are you looking for to

582
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Speaker 2: break out after the bye on this stretch? Run here

583
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Speaker 2: in the playoff push over the last five weeks eight

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Speaker 2: o three to zero, five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board,

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00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: got open lines for you there, or you can hit

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Speaker 2: us up on the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: But let's go to the phones. Leading us off today

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Speaker 2: is Tim down in Charlotte. What do you got for his? Tim?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Appreciure.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to first day, you know, the you

593
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Speaker 4: guys were just talking about the pump block in the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee game. I saw the first one. It looked like

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Speaker 4: just a straight up bum rush. But the second one

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Speaker 4: was the guy coming off the edge from the gunner position,

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Speaker 4: almost like coming down the line of scrimmage and timing

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Speaker 4: the snap. I was wondering if you guys would love

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Speaker 4: to sit because I would love to see the Bills

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Speaker 4: do that with Saran Neil, with how athletic he is,

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe spark something because Smiley's kind of dropped

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Speaker 4: the ball past a couple of games. But anyways, so

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Speaker 4: I'd love love to see that first and foremost. But

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Speaker 4: my breakout guys, I'll give you one on the offense,

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Speaker 4: one the defense. I really love gave Davis to make

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Speaker 4: a conversation for Brandon Bean to re sign him. I

607
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Speaker 4: know we've been waiting for years for this kid to

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Speaker 4: break out and be a little bit more consistent, and

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Speaker 4: he has had games, but you know how he plays

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Speaker 4: against Kansas City, so hopefully this will be a jump

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Speaker 4: start for him. I really love to see him go off.

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Speaker 4: And number two Greg Russ, he's kind of been I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I haven't seen anything come out about him

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Speaker 4: having an injury. I know he's been nicked up from

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Speaker 4: time to time over the past couple of seasons. But

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Speaker 4: we need this kid to develop, and you know, he's

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Speaker 4: been a high draft pick and I would just really

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Speaker 4: love to see him break out after and take his

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Speaker 4: claim on that defensive line because I'm really sick and

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Speaker 4: tired of seeing seeing us sign you know, guys that

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Speaker 4: are so long in the tooth. I mean, Leonard Floyd

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Speaker 4: has been fantastic for us, but I'll just leave it

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Speaker 4: at that. I'd love to see the young guys step

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Speaker 4: up and gave Davis for sure, make a case for

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Speaker 4: him to maybe get a contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: It would be interesting to debate or conversation have is

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Speaker 1: what these last five games would look at, because I

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Speaker 1: think most people would say, I think some most Bills

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Speaker 1: fans will say, you know what you can do better athletically? Now,

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Speaker 1: certainly he brings something to table physically. He's a great

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Speaker 1: run blocker, and he plays a higher number of percentage

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Speaker 1: of snaps than anybody on the offense except for the

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Speaker 1: offensive line and Josh uh. He plays more snaps than anybody.

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Speaker 1: I think you get to the point where you just

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Speaker 1: want more out of that. On the receiving end of it,

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Speaker 1: he's great leader, great uh, great presence in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: real wise guy. Even you know, players at other positions

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Speaker 1: kind of seek his advice. I get the feeling just

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's a team captain. But most people

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Speaker 1: in a when in a dispassionate world, would say, you

642
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Speaker 1: gotta have more out of your number two wide out.

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Speaker 1: You got to do more on the on the pass

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Speaker 1: catching end of it, and you need a better athlete years.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking so most people at this point would say,

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Speaker 1: I don't I doubt that the Bills are going to

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Speaker 1: bring him back unless they get a he gives him

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Speaker 1: a bargain deal like well below more a couple million

649
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Speaker 1: bucks or whatever. And why would he do that. He'd

650
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: probably go to Kansas City and make a mint, you

651
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But what would it take in

652
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: these last five games for Gabe Davis to completely change

653
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: that narrative.

654
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: I think he would have to consistently be productive over

655
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: the last five weeks.

656
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: He'd have to catch what eighty five percent of his

657
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: targets eighty percent, eight out of ten balls, ten out

658
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: of twelve balls, something, We're in.

659
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: There, and be a factor every single week and do

660
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: it every week. Six catches for ninety two yards one

661
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: week and nothing the next week. That's happened.

662
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: He's had zero targets for zero catches in games.

663
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: That's two games.

664
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Speaker 1: This you can't you can't do that as a two

665
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: wide risk.

666
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: You can't vanish And so I think that's a problem.

667
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: But let's face it, if they get like we say,

668
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: if they get in this finger quotes, if they get

669
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Speaker 1: on a heater and he's a part of that and

670
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: they go deep, well then everything changes.

671
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: But that's what it's going to take. You mentioned Russell

672
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: on defense. We've already addressed Greg Russeau and what we

673
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: think of him as a breakout candidate. I'm hoping for it, actually,

674
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: But he also mentioned saran Neil, and he mentioned the Titans.

675
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: One of the Titans block kicks in which Mike Rabel

676
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: pulled a page out of Belichick's playbook. You remember earlier

677
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: in the season, Brendan Schooler, their special teams player, came

678
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: from the jammer position, ran down the line of scrimmage

679
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: and timed his angle of entry and blocked a field goal.

680
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: And they did the same thing apparently in that Titans game. Again,

681
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: I did not see it, so I'm not going to

682
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: speak on it necessarily, but the caller Tim was asking

683
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: could a play like that be designed for saran Neil?

684
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: I think it unequivocally could. And look, you're in a

685
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: situation now where you gotta win every last game you got.

686
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: You gotta let it all hang out, so you want

687
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: to try that. Now's the time if you feel like

688
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: there's a crack of a door open for that play

689
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: to work for you against a given opponent, whether it's

690
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: this week in Arrowhead or next week against Dallas or

691
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: the week after that against LA you gotta put it in. Yeah,

692
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: and then you gotta let the guys go, and.

693
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: Then you gotta call it. Yeah, you gotta call make

694
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: the call. And sometimes it's not the great field position

695
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: that you want or whatever. A lot of a lot

696
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: of teams, the philosophy is you really rush the punt

697
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: when it's either deep in their end and some because

698
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a good field position in anyway, or

699
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: you do it when it's out towards midfield and you're

700
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna have bad field position anyway. When it's

701
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle there, when there's some these gray

702
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: areas where it's in there on their thirty yard line

703
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: coming out, you may be able to get a return

704
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: that gives you good field position.

705
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's all the stuff goes

706
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: into this no sense and committing extra people to the punt.

707
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: Right, you don't need to. Yeah, And having said that,

708
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: the philosophy is also and I don't want to get

709
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: down this rabbit hole too far either.

710
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm excited about special case guy. I think we understand.

711
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: So you rush, you single cover the gunners, and you

712
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: rush everybody hard to try and block the punt. But

713
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: the idea being iman if you don't get somebody rushing

714
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: free that you get there, the protection has to spend

715
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: so much time keeping you from doing that. They're late

716
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: down down the field and all of a sudden, you

717
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: got some space for a guy like you know, Deontay

718
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Hardy or Andy is Abella or whoever you know, Shakir,

719
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: you got a guy. You got space for that guy,

720
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: and he can get a fourteen fifteen yard return. That's

721
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: what you're looking at. So there's all this stuff that

722
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: goes into the special team's philosophy on any given snap,

723
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: and you got to have that stuff ready to pull out.

724
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: Blocking and having a choreographed plan to get somebody free

725
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: on the punter's foot is part of every game plan.

726
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: But man oh man, it's hard to do because somebody

727
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: almost has to fall asleep at the wheel on their

728
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: side before it to work. They're rarely unsound.

729
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: Right, So let me ask you this because the Bills

730
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: are in must win mode here pretty much the rest

731
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: of the way. They're coming off a bye week, and

732
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: they've done some self scouting and maybe they've found some

733
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: areas of deficiency, and if they have, in my mind,

734
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: that's an area where you have to come up with

735
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: a couple of specialty type plays to be maybe a

736
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: tad more aggressive, to try to create a favorable situation

737
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 2: for your team that your team playing under regular play

738
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: calling circumstances may not be able to generate to change

739
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: the momentum in a football game. I'm not saying do

740
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: it on offense. It's high powered, it's back, it's averaging

741
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: thirty three points a game in the last two weeks.

742
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: You probably don't need to tweak a whole lot over there.

743
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: But defense and special teams could could use an assist,

744
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.

745
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: Maybe yes, But here's the thing. None of these games

746
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: are unimportant, and none of them the games leading up

747
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: to this had a six and six record. None of

748
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: them have been unimportant. You would and that's why a

749
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: guy like McDermott and a lot of head coaches who

750
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: will say listen, we got will be our We just

751
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: do what we do. So you prepare all that stuff

752
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: should be in every week. It should you should be

753
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: at that level all the time.

754
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: That's the kind of level. I get that.

755
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: The difference is this and we you know, and Bills

756
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: fans go crazy when you talk about this.

757
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: You got in the game, call it.

758
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Don't go don't go soft, don't go scared, don't.

759
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Go well, that's my coach, call it, that's my point.

760
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: Go for it.

761
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta have this mindset of we're

762
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: winning the moment, We're not going to let.

763
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Them lose it.

764
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: That's a that's the mentality you got to carry into

765
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: those moments and have that stuff.

766
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: And you can't have the mindset of and that takes well,

767
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: I want to do this, but what if we don't

768
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: get it? You can't even go there. You just got

769
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: to say, we're calling it. I trust my guys. If

770
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: we don't get it, we'll move on and live with it.

771
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Let's try it, and that let's face it.

772
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: That's some of the criticisms Sean mcdermamy's taken over the

773
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: last couple of months where he's where they where these

774
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: teams climb back into it late and most of them

775
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: don't get there. But but four out of the six losses,

776
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: the Bills have had the lead late and had not

777
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: been able to keep it. Now, it's injuries and all

778
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: that stuff go into that as well, and plus great

779
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: plays on the other side and bad calls and all

780
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: that stuff goes into the mix like it does for

781
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: every team. But that's kind of where they the criticisms

782
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: have been leveled at this team for its underachievings because

783
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: they don't close the door, don't They don't get the

784
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: game into the garage. So that what you just said,

785
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: all that stuff is in the playbook and should be

786
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: in your quiver ready to pull out and shoot like

787
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: the arrow with them.

788
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking coming out of the bye week, there's got

789
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: to be a couple of extra asterisks next to those

790
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: plays to call them against given opponents.

791
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Your your your margins, or your situations where you're gonna

792
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: call that play expands.

793
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: You're right, that's it to me. To me, let's go

794
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: quickly to Kevin and Hamburg here before the break, what

795
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Kevin, you're on one goose

796
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: my call.

797
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 5: I think this game, I mean, I wouldn't say we

798
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: lose this game. Will be over. But this is one

799
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: of the most important games for our season. Possibly. But

800
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: Gabe Davis a couple of years ago in that thirteen

801
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 5: second game is the one that almost torched the Chiefs

802
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: totally before that, and I think this. I don't know

803
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: about the stretch run, but he knows how to terrorize

804
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 5: the Chiefs and this hopefully will be the one that

805
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: starts it. Because I'm not saying it'll be over. We

806
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: lose this game, but it will be getting scary. This

807
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 5: is our and Brownie, I know you're a big history buff.

808
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 5: You like history movies. You have history movies. I heard

809
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 5: you like history movies. This is, in a way almost

810
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 5: like our our battle. This is our This is our Gettysburg.

811
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: This determined who takes it. You know, this is and

812
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 5: I know you like history.

813
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: The turning point of the season. Okay, yeah, I'm with you.

814
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean but he does good to get the

815
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: Chiefs a couple of years ago. He's the one that

816
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: caught all those Alan touchdown right digs, not even easily.

817
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: This he knows how to beat the Chiefs. He did

818
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 5: pretty good last year before the bye, so but I'm

819
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: hoping he pulled up another thirteen games.

820
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Kevin, Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Yeah,

821
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean to me, the season has already pivoted. It's

822
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: pivoted to you gotta win them. So I think that

823
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: turning point has already happened. Maybe what you're saying is

824
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: if they beat the Chiefs, maybe that can get them

825
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: on the role they need to get on. Maybe that's

826
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: kind of what you're getting at, because as we know,

827
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: the Union Army didn't get on a roll until they

828
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: wanted Gettysburg. So maybe that's what you're getting at. So

829
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate the parallel. You ever been to Gettysburg. I

830
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: have not. It's awesome. It's awesome, especially if you go

831
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: during the three days in which Gettysburg actually happened in

832
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: the course of history, July first, second, and third. They

833
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: do reenactments. Oh they do, oh big time. We're out there.

834
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: We're watching these guys in wool period accurate uniforms, sweating bullets. Dude,

835
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: sweating bullets.

836
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: I have done.

837
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I was like, you guys are crazy.

838
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: I have done the uh the reenactments at Fort Niagara

839
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: where they have that's colonial right, yes, Native Americans. They

840
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: have either British or French troops, and then it's French.

841
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: It's eighteen twelve.

842
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: W Yeah, I don't know now here. I've been there

843
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: and I actually remember it's eighteen.

844
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: Twelve and it goes back to revolution.

845
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool to see, no question.

846
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. How do we, Kevin.

847
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Got this is our analogy, this is our Gettysburg.

848
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

849
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: That means it's only starting, I mean.

850
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we just uh we just got to hope

851
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes is picket and uh staging pickets charge

852
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: which ended horribly. I'm probably making a reference that you

853
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: don't know about, but that's that's okay. Yes, we will

854
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: take a break here because you were talking about the

855
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. He's not playing this week. He was wounded

856
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: in battle last week. Got to take a break. More

857
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: of your phone calls when we come back, as we're

858
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: looking for breakout players on this Bill's Rosser coming out

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Speaker 2: the Bills for this stretch run here where they pretty

869
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Speaker 2: much have to win and win some more and then

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Speaker 2: win again for the postseason hopes that are flickering right now.

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Speaker 2: So if you have any player in mind on Buffalo's roster,

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Speaker 2: you let us know it. Eight oh three zero five

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Speaker 2: to fifty won eight eight eight five point fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. We've had

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Speaker 2: a couple of suggestions already. Greg Russeau was mentioned, Gabe

876
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: Davis was mentioned, both by more than one caller. Also

877
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Speaker 2: heard Saran Neil's name mentioned. Kind of give a boost

878
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Speaker 2: to special teams, and we had a couple other candidates

879
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: mentioned as well. I think Ty Johnson wouldn't be a

880
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: bad pick here. He's kind of found his way into

881
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: a niche role on offense. He's made some impact plays.

882
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Onen't mind seeing him catch some fire and make it

883
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Speaker 2: a true three headed monster in that backfield. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, certainly the big plays that Jane Cook turned in

885
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: even against the Philadelphia Eagles. Against the Eagles, the little

886
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Speaker 1: swing pass turned into a big play that has been

887
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Speaker 1: missing from this offense for a while. That's one of

888
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Speaker 1: the things we thought we could get out of a

889
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Speaker 1: guy like James Cook, and this one was just a

890
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Speaker 1: swing route outlet. When Josh stepped up in the pocket,

891
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Speaker 1: looked looking and then just found him late, they forgot

892
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: about him and pressed our changes. Stuff like that you

893
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Speaker 1: can put on Josh as well, you know, for seeing

894
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Speaker 1: him and making it happen, but also on the guy

895
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Speaker 1: just being available and then once he catches it getting

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Speaker 1: the most out of it.

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Speaker 2: That was.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see if somebody steps up

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Speaker 1: in that regard, because it could be anybody.

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Speaker 2: break out after the bye Jack says, I need Steph

904
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Speaker 2: Diggs to remind the NFL why he is who he is.

905
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Speaker 2: We need him to have his back to back one

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Speaker 2: hundred yard games again. He can open the offense up

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Speaker 2: when defenses have to plan for him. Yeah, I mean

908
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Speaker 2: I think that's obvious. And yes, the second half of

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00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: the season hasn't been quite as productive as the first half.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately for the Bills, they found other targets that have

911
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Speaker 2: kind of picked up. I don't even want to say

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Speaker 2: the slack. It's not like he's not producing. He's just

913
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Speaker 2: not looking like a dominant phenom on offense. He's still,

914
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Speaker 2: you know, coming up with six seven catches a game,

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Speaker 2: seventy eighty ninety yards, even a touchdown last in the

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Speaker 2: last game against Philly. So it's not like he's not producing.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of spreading the wealth better. I wonder if

918
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: that's a better formula, you know, rather than relying on

919
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Speaker 2: digs so much. I understand what Jack's getting at, you know,

920
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: pull so much attention away from the other guys that

921
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: they got one on them there so they can win, right.

922
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Speaker 1: And there's a little bit in it where it says

923
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Speaker 1: who cares what it looks like? If you know, they

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Speaker 1: continue down this stretch where they've been of scoring thirty two,

925
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty five points, that kind of thing where

926
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Speaker 1: the last couple of games thirty two points, one game

927
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Speaker 1: thirty four points. You know, that's I don't care what

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Speaker 1: it looks like, but that's what your that's what your

929
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Speaker 1: window is you got. I think thirty points is the

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Speaker 1: baseline where you've got to get to, and particularly with

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Speaker 1: the given the injuries that you've suffered on defense, and

932
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Speaker 1: and how difficult it is this time of year with

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Speaker 1: other teams kind of finding their rhythm and this with

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Speaker 1: the schedule the Bills have, you know, these teams are

935
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Speaker 1: going to be playing a little bit better than everybody

936
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Speaker 1: else's opponents.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the floor you gotta score thirty the

939
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Speaker 1: injuries to the to the to Milano, to Day Kwon,

940
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: to Trey White, and then you know, off and on margin, Benford,

941
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Speaker 1: the margin for AIRR is just too narrow defensively the

942
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Speaker 1: way it stands now. So I think you know you

943
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Speaker 1: got to go in thinking thirty points is your baseline

944
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Speaker 1: score to win these games.

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Speaker 2: want to tap into your playing days a little bit

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Speaker 2: here with this first question. So your team, when you

960
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: would typically come out of a bye week, obviously the

961
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Speaker 2: coaching staffs done some self scouting, maybe they've added a

962
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Speaker 2: couple of tweaks for the upcoming opponent for which they've

963
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: had extra time to prepare and game plan for. What

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Speaker 2: would you say were the prevailing things that would kind

965
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Speaker 2: of come out of a buy that you would experience

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Speaker 2: as a player from your coaching steps, whether things were

967
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Speaker 2: going exceptionally well going into the buy or even exceptionally poor.

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Speaker 3: I think the number one thing always was what are

969
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: we doing that's beating us or holding us back or

970
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: you know, giving us a lesser chance to win football games?

971
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: And a lot of times that is surface level stuff,

972
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: you know, tree top of we're turning the football over

973
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: or we're bad in the red zone. You know. I

974
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: think the more that we would as players and coaches

975
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: like dive into it, it's hey, we're we're really bad

976
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: when we run the ball on first down? Is there

977
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 3: are there tails? Are we too obvious with stuff? Third downs?

978
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: We're we're struggling to protection? Well are we are we

979
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: calling enough of certain protections or who's the weakest or

980
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: who's the weakness within that protection? So I think you're

981
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: always finding why you are losing or you know, what

982
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: are we doing to make winning harder? And then you

983
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: lean into all, right, what are we good at? Like

984
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: what are the things or who's good at what that

985
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 3: we can kind of try to if we're doing it

986
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: twenty percent of the time, can we do it ten

987
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: percent more twenty percent more? Or you know, do we

988
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: have are we asking guys to do certain things that

989
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: maybe they're not just comfortable with right now and not

990
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: doing it at a high level. So you know, the

991
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: bye week man outside of rest, how you know, figuring

992
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: out who you are and who you're not is such

993
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: a big part of it.

994
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: How big a percentage of the total can you transform?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

996
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you're really you're not going to transform yourself,

997
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: particularly a late bye like Buffalo's got in week thirteen.

998
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of where your roster is and where

999
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: your injuries have taken you, and your revolution through the

1000
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: season has kind of put you in this corner or box,

1001
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: wherever you want to call it. How big a transformation

1002
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: can you expect?

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Speaker 3: You know, Steve, I would say for this specific situation,

1004
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: relatively big. It's not like Buffalo is six and six

1005
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: because they've you know, four games. They've just been absolutely

1006
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: dragged on the floor. You know, there's been some situational

1007
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: football moments that haven't maybe been prepared for or haven't

1008
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: been executed at the highest level. And I think those

1009
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: are drastic differences. You know, they're you could argue there

1010
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: are two plays away from in an eight and four

1011
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: football team. So no, as far as like the end

1012
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: result changing, I do think that there could be a

1013
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: in this situation a drastic difference. I don't know if

1014
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: there's gonna be an identity, like specifically to the offense

1015
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: leave Like, I don't know if I'm gonna sit there

1016
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Speaker 3: and tell you like there's gonna be this massive identity overall,

1017
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: but I overhaul. But I do think that there could

1018
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: be a pretty significant philosophical overhaul. I do believe that

1019
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: you can get together and figure out, like, hey man,

1020
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Speaker 3: what have we figured it out in the last three

1021
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: or four weeks that we can really major in? And

1022
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: what have we figured out in the three or four

1023
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: weeks that we got to try and stay away from

1024
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: so we don't beat ourselves as much as we have

1025
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Speaker 3: in the past.

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Speaker 2: Twelve games going into the by Dan, the three games

1027
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: going into the buy, the Bills have run the football

1028
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: exceptionally well. Granted one of those games is against a

1029
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: week Denver front, but they're averaging one hundred and sixty

1030
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Speaker 2: five yards on the ground. They'll three games going into

1031
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: the by and I know Josh was a part of

1032
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: that against Philly, but still those are those are eye

1033
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: opening numbers on a consistent basis. So what can you

1034
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: take from that and play off of so to speak,

1035
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: offensively to stay a step ahead of Steve Spagnolo, who

1036
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: is difficult to stay a step ahead of.

1037
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, part of it is is

1038
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: embracing the Josh movement stuff, you know, and embracing kind

1039
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: of the plus plays that he has created over the

1040
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: past couple of weeks and encouraging that more out of him.

1041
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: Not now, it's not just hey, every single time on

1042
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: third down, get out of there, but that has been

1043
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: a pro and plus play for them. I've said this

1044
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: for weeks now, realizing Cook is a really really good

1045
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: player and there are you know, can he still be

1046
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 3: a very good player and have the fumble issues or concerns? No,

1047
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: but God bless you can minimize those concerns every single

1048
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: day in practice. And I think, you know, really leaning

1049
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: into running the football with him has been a big deal.

1050
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: I think they've called more runs, Chris, Like if you

1051
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: go back last year and for most of this year,

1052
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 3: a lot of their run game wasn't necessarily called runs.

1053
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: It was the RPO, right, And again, I love RPOs.

1054
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Speaker 3: But I always have believed this. I remember saying this

1055
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 3: or two or three years ago about the Chiefs. I've

1056
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: always believed there's difference in offensive linemen when they hear

1057
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: a run called and when they hear an RPO called.

1058
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Speaker 3: There just is it's a mentality thing. It's a confidence thing,

1059
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 3: you know. When you call runs sometimes the look isn't perfect,

1060
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: and the coaching objective is, guys, you got to move

1061
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: them off the ball.

1062
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Speaker 6: I don't know what, you know.

1063
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: I wish I could create the magic perfect play for you.

1064
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Speaker 3: This isn't one of them. An offensive lineman, I feel

1065
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: take that to heart. You know, it's it's a it's

1066
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Speaker 3: a challenge to those guys we're in the RPO offensive

1067
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 3: line is smart enough to know, like, oh, whatever happens,

1068
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Speaker 3: it'll be the ideal situation, you know. And I remember

1069
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Speaker 3: talking about the Chiefs offensive line again two three years ago,

1070
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Speaker 3: and I would watch those guys peek back on our

1071
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Speaker 3: pos to see if Patrick had had held it or

1072
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Speaker 3: thrown it. And I think that they've called just more runs.

1073
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Speaker 3: We call them series ce Iri call it and run

1074
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Speaker 3: it man. And I think that's been a beneficial like

1075
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Speaker 3: attitude thing for their offensive line. And I think it's

1076
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Speaker 3: something that they need to be continuing to push.

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Speaker 1: We've got these two teams, the Chiefs and the Bills.

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: They've been playing against each other at least once a

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00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: year for four and maybe five years. Now with Pat

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00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh the Bills are two and two in

1081
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: Kansas City in the regular season, but these are two

1082
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: different versions of those teams. The Chiefs are very different

1083
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: than the team that were two years ago. The Bills

1084
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: are evolved away from particularly with defensive injuries that kind

1085
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: of thing. Josh is still the engine. Pat's still the engine.

1086
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: But these two versions we have not seen play each other.

1087
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: How do you think it's gonna look differently than the

1088
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: other matchups?

1089
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: Well, the difference is this years ago, you had to

1090
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: score thirty to be Kansas City. No longer the case.

1091
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: And really I would say that their offense is so

1092
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: Patrick has to play an unbelievable game. It feels like

1093
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: for them to score twenty four, twenty one to twenty four,

1094
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: and that's just obviously a massive ask. You don't have

1095
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: to score thirty to beat this football team. And because

1096
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: they're not as offensively explosive, that gives you like you're

1097
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: gonna be in that game no matter what. They haven't

1098
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: really blown anybody out outside of I think the Raiders,

1099
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: who you know didn't have anybody playing that game a

1100
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: ton health wise and obviously a poor team. You're not

1101
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: gonna get blown out. There's no concern to that. When

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00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: it comes down to the Chiefs offense, there's two things.

1103
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: Really.

1104
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: You can play man coverage against this team in the past,

1105
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: and you can get after this offensive line ever since

1106
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl could not so if your edge players

1107
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: on defense play well, if the rush guys play well,

1108
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna have pressure on Patrick. They're just not a

1109
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: good unit right now. They're tackles and you can play

1110
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: man coverage and you can force just a moment of

1111
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: holding onto the football. And if you don't give him

1112
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: the chance to create some big plays and those are

1113
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: down even when he scrambles, you've got a chance.

1114
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1115
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: Defensively is where it's a very different conversation. This is

1116
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: a very good defense. Don't don't confuse what we saw

1117
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: a Sunday night with this defense. That was the best

1118
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: I've seen an offensive look against Kansas City's defense. Well

1119
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: Green Bay did to them. This is a defense that

1120
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: wants to play man coverage. They're good at it. They

1121
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: get up in your face at the line of scrimmage.

1122
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: They want to beat you up all eleven. Not just

1123
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: your offensive line. They want to beat your court wide

1124
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: receivers up at the line of scrimmage. They're gonna commit

1125
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: to numbers and pressure. They're gonna stop the run. They

1126
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: are going to stop the run, and then they're gonna

1127
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: play man or they're gonna give you all kinds of

1128
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: crazy pressures.

1129
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: And so.

1130
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: The willingness to do that is a little bit different,

1131
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: and the capability is a little bit different.

1132
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: All right, So let's take that one step further, though, Dan,

1133
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: because we'll have to wait until the injury report comes out.

1134
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: But their free safety Brian Cook gets dinged. It's not

1135
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: a broken leg, yea. He leaves the game last week.

1136
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: Good player on the back end. And then you know,

1137
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: the middle linebacker Trank will is probably gonna be in

1138
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: concussion protocol this week. It looks like Nick Bolton is

1139
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: still a week or two away coming off a risk surgery.

1140
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: How much does that compromise Spagnolo's ability to get creative

1141
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: and diverse with his scheming in the game with what

1142
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: is essentially his third string middle linebacker.

1143
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit more impactful in their run

1144
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: stuff than in their past stuff. Their past stuff has

1145
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: always been about Carlis, Chris Jones, Mike Dana and like

1146
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: the the fourth rusher. The Bolton stuff's a big deal.

1147
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: Now Trenkle's been really good in like third down zone coverages.

1148
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: He has saved two games essentially by tackling screens that

1149
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: would have gone to the house. So that that that's

1150
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: part of this. Bolton matters a lot in their run stunts,

1151
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: no one, I don't want to say no, they are

1152
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: one of the best run blitzing teams in football. That's

1153
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: what I mean, Chris, when I say like they're gonna

1154
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 3: stop the run, it's not like Spags. It's just gonna

1155
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: line up versus Buffalo and play two safeties. They're gonna play,

1156
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: you know, three linebackers, two corners and four d linemen

1157
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: and just say hey stop. They're gonna put people.

1158
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: At the ball.

1159
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: Ball's gonna get snapped, and they're gonna have dudes flying

1160
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: from all over the place, defensive line slanting. You know,

1161
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: their their their nickel is gonna be pressuring off the

1162
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: edge or La Jerry sneaed. So their backers are so

1163
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: good at not only the run blitzes, but knowing where

1164
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: the ball is going to go after the run blitz

1165
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: and Bolton that like. That's one of my big takeaways

1166
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: from that Green Bay game is the loss of Bolton

1167
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: in some of their run stunts, knowing where that ball

1168
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: was going to hit in or bounce. That's that's gonna

1169
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: be where. That challenge still looms for Kansas City's defense.

1170
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: We asked our listeners today a guy on the Bills

1171
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: roster who Bills fans think maybe has a chance to

1172
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: bust out one of the guys that has that Brownie thought,

1173
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: and I agree with him. And also a couple of

1174
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: fans have called in as Greg Russau the defensive lineman,

1175
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: he's got great length with Leonard Floyd on the other side,

1176
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: who's really playing excellent football, Ed Oliver down inside, who's

1177
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: obviously playing extremely well coming off a bye week, refreshed

1178
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: this pass rush. If it gets its second wind or

1179
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: those guys play up to their potential and things that

1180
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: we've seen them play, it could be special coming down

1181
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: the stretch.

1182
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on how good they could get?

1183
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: It needs to be, it needs to be and and really,

1184
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 3: if you're gonna ask, hey, what are the three things

1185
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: that you gotta do as a football team to beat

1186
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: Kansas City. I would say if not one two, those

1187
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: edge guys are kind of they gotta dominate the game,

1188
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 3: and they can. This is not a good tackle unit.

1189
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: It's just not that it's who they are. There's penalties

1190
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 3: and the past protection is an issue and there, and

1191
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: the thing is so often when you get help. You know,

1192
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 3: they chip so much in Kansas City right now, it's

1193
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: almost like you got no shot. That's not the case there.

1194
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: It's that struggling of a group right now. I put

1195
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: it this way, Steve, like, I think if they win

1196
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: one of their next two, they're gonna find a way.

1197
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: I just maybe that's a fan in me, but I

1198
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: think if they find a way to win one of

1199
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Speaker 3: these next two and and a big, a big part

1200
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: of the reason if they win this week will be

1201
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: that rush unit. If they can find one of them

1202
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: away one of the next two, and that defensive line

1203
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: continues to play especially odd at at a high level,

1204
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: they they got a real good shot.

1205
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bills right now might be a surprise to some.

1206
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: They're number one in the league in sacks per play,

1207
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: so they've been doing it. They just haven't been winning

1208
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: enough games to back it up. Dan, thanks as always.

1209
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: Enjoy that game tonight with the boys, and we'll catch

1210
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: op with the next week.

1211
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, be good, we're talking you next week.

1212
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: That's ESPN NFL analyst Dan or Lobsky breaking it down

1213
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: for us. It's going to the Yukon game tonight at

1214
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 2: the Garden. They're playing Carolina.

1215
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: It's funny because he's at that spot where he's taking

1216
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: his sons and a couple of their friends. They're playing

1217
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: hooves together and they're going to see you come to

1218
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: That's kind of nice.

1219
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, like because I'm a

1220
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: big I'm a big East guy. Big East at the

1221
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: Garden is like it's not what it was and it's heyday,

1222
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: but it's still pretty cool. And Yukon's defending national champion

1223
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: and they got everybody back. They could very easily win

1224
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: the whole dang thing again. And Carolina's got a good squad, so.

1225
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: That's gotta be cool for young kid, is though, the

1226
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: heck of a game. You watch the NCAA tournament and

1227
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: you see that team go out there and you win

1228
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: in that, and then you get to get a chance

1229
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: to go see those exact guys play the next year

1230
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: coming back.

1231
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: That's and that team's a machine. That Yukon team is

1232
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: a machine. Yeah. Danny Hurley, Bobby Hurley's brothers coaching. That

1233
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: team won the whole thing last year. May do it

1234
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: again this year because, like I said, everybody's back and

1235
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: they're loaded. I mean, well, bless their heart. Yeah, Carolinea'll

1236
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: give him a good fight though. I mean they got

1237
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 2: a good squad. They got a point guard on Carolina guy.

1238
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: He makes some unbelievable passes. He's got eyes in the

1239
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: back of his head. He's a really good player. Young

1240
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: guy too. So if you like kyleege hoops, that is

1241
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: a game to definitely check out tonight. Dan will be

1242
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: there in person. Yeah, so pretty cool. Uh eight oh

1243
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: three five point fifty The phone number to get on

1244
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: board one eight eight eight five fifty two five point fifty.

1245
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: As Steve mentioned, we're asking you today what player on

1246
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo's roster do you think has a good chance to

1247
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: break out here coming down this stretch run where the

1248
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: Bills are pretty much in must win mode. Who could

1249
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: break out and really help the cause here down the

1250
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: stretch in your mind? Eighth three h five fifteen the

1251
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: number to get on board. We got open lines for

1252
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: you there. Wanted to pick up where we left off

1253
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet and Steve says, I will say

1254
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Greg Russo, possible pick popular pick today. He has been

1255
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: playing a bit nicked up since earlier in the year.

1256
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: Hopefully with this two week break he will be at

1257
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: one hundred percent and create much needed havoc, especially late

1258
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 2: in games. Late problems in the game is what cost

1259
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs the game against the Bills last year in

1260
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: Week five. You know, Von Miller was getting pressure off

1261
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: the edge and Mahomes gets flushed out of the pocket.

1262
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: He throws a pick Taron Johnson seals the game.

1263
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that was exactly the recipe that the

1264
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: Bills wanted to use last year, is have a defensive

1265
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: pass rush the force bad throws that could close out games,

1266
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: which is exactly what they've been missing this year.

1267
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were doing it earlier in the year, but.

1268
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: Exactly they did it through weeks two through four.

1269
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean, they were hard to Vanessa interception return for

1270
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: a touchdown against Washington.

1271
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: Like it was Yeah, they were on it, and then

1272
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get ravaged by injuries and

1273
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: it's not quite the same.

1274
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: Jeremy on the tweets sheet says, any skill player outside

1275
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 2: of Diggs and Kincaid, albeit Shakir has flashes, but we

1276
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: need a consistent thread outside of the top two Eagles, Miami,

1277
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: Cincy and sanfran all have that dangerous third option and

1278
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: they're always on top. You know, that's a good point.

1279
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: You know, you need kind of a third guy to

1280
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: emerge on the offensive side of the ball, whether it's

1281
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: cook out of the backfield as a passing option. Maybe

1282
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 2: it's Shakiir, who has had two games out of three

1283
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: that have been really strong here going into the buy.

1284
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: Maybe he comes out and continues that on an even

1285
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: more consistent basis. But yeah, I mean, if you can

1286
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: get a third weapon, you know, in this offense that

1287
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: you can rely upon week in and week out to

1288
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: get you five to six catches sixty seventy yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's it makes you tougher to defend. It's a

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Speaker 2: copycat league.

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Speaker 1: I mean, team's going to look out there and they're

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Speaker 1: looking at San Francisco going now, look at them. They

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Speaker 1: got Christian McCaffrey, they got Deebo Samuel, and they got

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Speaker 1: Kittle and Ayuk right, but.

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Speaker 2: Then look at how much Philly has struggled with Goddard

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: out of the lineup. It they're right, third guy hasn't

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Speaker 2: been there and they've been grinding to finish games.

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Speaker 1: It seems like a formula that that has to work

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Speaker 1: to be success at this point in history, right, I mean,

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: it's it goes around. What goes around comes around. It

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: used to be yet to have that big bel cow

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: back right now, and that's that's not the case anymore.

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01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: But it used to be everybody wanted one. Now you

1304
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: got to have this guy, this guy, and this guy

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: along with the quarterback to make it work. And when

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01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: those guys are in and out of the lineup in

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: different combinations, it all looks out of kilter, and I

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know, I don't know if

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01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: you can make that assumption that that's what the Bills

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: problems were earlier. Diggs has never been anyone. He's still

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: in there, kin Kaid has been there, Knox has been

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. That's a little bit of a problem.

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Speaker 1: Then they couldn't settle on whether it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Khalilshakir or Deontay hardy and so you know, you find

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Speaker 1: yourself as you go. Now, Khalil Shakir's kind of I

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: think going into the by Khalil Shakir's kind of made

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Speaker 1: his presence permanent, at least for this season on the

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Speaker 1: at that slot receiver, the third wide receiver. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see if that continues to evolve and escalate in its production.

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: But that's where that's where we're at. It's a copycat

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: league and you see these teams that have a multiple

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Speaker 1: options in the game. Of course, everybody would love a

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01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, but not everybody's got a versatile athlete like

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Speaker 1: that who's big and can you can take a handoff? Yeah,

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: he can take a handoff and not crumple like a

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01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: sheet of paper. You know, he can do it game

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: after game and well, at least when he's in the

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01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: when he's healthy.

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Speaker 2: He can. But that's the problem.

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: You can't get those guys are hard to find a

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: guy who can run routes and play like that and

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: then take a handoff and give the defense problems matching

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: up and look and getting the look.

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Speaker 2: You move Deebo Samuel all over creation.

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Speaker 1: What is he a wide receiver?

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Speaker 2: This time.

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Speaker 1: No, he's actually kind of a running back. Well, McCaffrey's

1338
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: in the game. Well, I know well that you got problems.

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 1: Those guys are hard to find.

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: They're also hard to match up against, and that's why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's never in a magic elixir. But right now,

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuels is close. You get that guy that they

1343
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do with him. Is he

1344
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna line up in the backfield or wide? Is he

1345
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna take a handoff or is he gonna block?

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: Or is he gonna take a snap?

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: Is he gonna take us right? Is he gonna take

1348
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: a snap or is he gonna take a screen pass?

1349
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what do you do and who

1350
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: you gonna put on him? If you're gonna go man

1351
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: coverage with Deebo Samuels in the game, they're gonna find

1352
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: you if you don't have the right guy on him.

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, do you have one hundred and eighty pound

1354
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: guy that can run and cover him? Okay, we'll hand

1355
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: him the ball. Now have your one hundred and eighty

1356
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: pound guy try to tackle it. I just said that.

1357
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: I used to say that all the time in the booth.

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: You get certain guys in the league. Gronk was like this,

1359
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, and Kittles like this. Kelsey's like this. If

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: you're fast enough to stay with the guy and cover him,

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01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: you're not big enough to tackle him. If you catch him,

1362
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: And if you're big enough to tackle him and match

1363
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: up physically, you ain't fast enough or nimble enough to

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: cover him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real problem. Fouscha on the tweets sheet

1366
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: says James Cook is gonna be big. Brady clearly loves

1367
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: to get running backs involved in the passing games. Talking

1368
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: about Joe Brady and James is an awesome pass catching

1369
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: running back. You should have had the touchdown against Philly,

1370
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: and if they fix up stuff like that during the bye,

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: he's about to go crazy. Hope you're right, Hope you're right.

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: I've been pounding the table for James Cook to get

1373
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: more involved in the passing game for over a month now,

1374
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: because to me, he's the second most dynamic athlete on

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: the roster after Diggs. Do yourself a favor, get him involved,

1376
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 2: get him in space. He'll reward you more often than not.

1377
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: I know he had to drop in Philly. That was

1378
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 2: not good, but doesn't mean you stop trying to utilize

1379
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: a weapon like that. You got to keep keep taking

1380
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: your swings.

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: Jeremy ge says, I'm going with Shakir. He's been getting

1383
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: more catches lately, and he has the potential to be

1384
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: a number two receiver. Plus we need some help ed

1385
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: wide out. Yeah, I mean we were just talking about it.

1386
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: You need that second option there. It's probably Kinka now,

1387
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: and I'm fine with that. You want to keep feeding

1388
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: that kid, I'm all for it.

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01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: Right, Shakiir's got He's only got twenty five catches on

1390
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 2: Right, but I think he has fourteen in his last

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: three games. Right.

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: That's so it's spiked here, yes, late, and I think

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Speaker 1: that it's got to continue. That trend's got to continue.

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to he's got to be

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: a first down machine. I think that's he's not. I

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01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: don't think he's fast enough for he's good in athletes,

1398
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: great and shifting, but he's got to be that kind

1399
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: of guy. He's not going to outrun too many people.

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Speaker 1: But the guy's got a sense of getting open, finding

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: dead area, and he catches it. Seems to catch it

1402
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: at a high rate. Got a high catch, right, about

1403
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: get him the ball on third and short and then

1404
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: go first and ten.

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01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: Let's go. You know, I'm totally with that, totally with that.

1406
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones and to Tom in Lackawana.

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01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: What do you got for a Tom?

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I missed the start of the show. I'm

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 7: hoping he's healthy because he didn't get any targets in

1410
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 7: the second half of the last game. I'm saying Dalton

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 7: Kincaid because if they're down to their possibly third linebacker,

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 7: he's got to be the hot receiver and they got

1413
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 7: to throw over the middle to open up Digs and Davis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see. I would kind of

1415
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 2: expect the Chiefs to put Justin Reid on Kinkaid their safety.

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they. I think they know they can't

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01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: put a linebacker on Kinkaid. He'll feast if they do.

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Speaker 2: But as you heard Dan Orlofski say in the segment,

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01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: you know, just before we went back to the phones,

1420
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: they play a lot of man coverage. All right, sign

1421
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: me up for that. I like Kincaid and man coverage.

1422
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: I love Diggs and man coverage. So yeah, you want

1423
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: to play man, go ahead. I like my I'll take

1424
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 2: my chance for that.

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I'll say this too. If you're gonna

1426
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: go man coverage and you're gonna waste another guy on

1427
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: spy in the quarterback of the Bills, you're gonna be thin.

1428
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: And the Bills offensive line has been really good.

1429
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, top ten in run blocks and pass block win. Right.

1430
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go man coverage, it's because you're gonna

1431
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: send extra people. You send extra people and and you

1432
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: don't hem this quarterback in Josh will have you know,

1433
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 1: six scrambles for ninety yards in one half. That's a problem,

1434
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to pick your spots. So it's

1435
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: it's it's dangerous to do because you've you've really got

1436
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: to What teams do is they'll rush Josh, they'll bring

1437
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: an extra guy, but they won't do stunts, which is

1438
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: always a better way to get you know, to have

1439
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: defensive line to picking guys off, because once you start

1440
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: doing that, you get big gaps in the rush. Josh

1441
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: steps through and outruns everybody, and all of a sudden,

1442
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: you give up a big play when you had the

1443
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: perfect defense. Called I say it a lot when when

1444
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when Josh was that guy

1445
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: doing that, you'd have Vic Fangio, Robert Solo when he

1446
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: was with the Niners. These guys are standing over there

1447
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: checking for rain. They don't know what to do because

1448
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: this guy, every time they call a perfect defense, literally

1449
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: the perfect defense, he crushes him.

1450
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 2: He busts it up.

1451
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: He busts it up. And they're like, what am I

1452
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna do if I call a perfect defense like out

1453
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: mans us? And they got no, they got no more, ammo.

1454
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: So that's where you're at with Josh. Josh is still

1455
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: that guy and he's been I'll say it again. I

1456
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: know he's not gonna win the MVP, but he's the MVP.

1457
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: That guy has played lights out. And one of the

1458
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: things that's always been part of Josh's game is we

1459
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: live with we and you know Bill's Mafia, we live

1460
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: with that. The turnovers, they score thirty two points, I

1461
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: don't care score the third were we fine? And it's

1462
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:06,520
Speaker 1: by and large that's the case. When he has a game, occasionally,

1463
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: not very often, occasionally, when he doesn't turn it over.

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: You know you can't beat him.

1465
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, but when he put he puts the ball

1466
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: at risk, because that's the way he plays, and we

1467
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: kind of live with it because we've seen the upside.

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: We want to live.

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01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: We want to live in that space because we want

1470
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: to get the most out of him.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but when we come back,

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01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with Bernie and Connecticut, Woody and Lakewood.

1473
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: So stay right where you are. We'll get to you

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01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: when we return here. On One Bill's Live, presented by

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: we go, and as promised, we lead off with Bernie

1481
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 2: up in Connecticut. What do you got for? Is Bernie?

1482
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys doing? Stevie ah Man, Brownie, I

1483
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 8: love you guys. Listen, it's been a while since I called,

1484
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 8: and I just got two big things. One is a question.

1485
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 8: One is just like I'm tired. I'm sick and tired

1486
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 8: of these calls. Big Sharma, I don't want anyone to

1487
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 8: go anywhere, Big Sean McDermott got to speak it out loud.

1488
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 8: If nothing changes, nothing changes. These calls are ridiculous. Help

1489
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 8: me with one. We were on a TV timeout. There

1490
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 8: was no flag on the field. It was a kick return.

1491
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 8: We come back from commercial, We're back on the whatever

1492
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 8: yard line. We marched all the way up. We probably

1493
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 8: even scored. We are fighting, refs, we're fighting. We had

1494
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 8: twelve men on the field that game we lost, but

1495
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 8: we're allowed to go against twelve thirteen, fourteen to fifty

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 8: team refs. It's unbelievable, you know. I'll stop there. The

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01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 8: other thing is von Miller. I don't know what's going

1498
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 8: on her couple of things. Saw his picture. If you

1499
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 8: guys can just enlighten me. Hopefully you know everything works out.

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 7: Please.

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 8: I'll stop there, guys and listen to what you have

1502
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 8: to say.

1503
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 2: Guys, I love you guys, all right, thanks Bernie. Yeah,

1504
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, yeah, I understand why for

1505
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: fans it's frustrating when it feels like your team not

1506
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 2: only has to beat the opponent, but the officials as well.

1507
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: And there are certainly examples you can point to whereas

1508
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: a Bills fan you would feel that way. As Steve

1509
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 2: and I mentioned earlier this week, there's just about every

1510
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: fan base of every team in the league could put

1511
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 2: a list together with the same list of grievances. The

1512
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: officiating is a problem, and it is an epidemic right now.

1513
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: It is bad, and it's only exacerbated by the fact

1514
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 2: that so many games are close, so when there are

1515
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 2: one or two bad calls, it can determine the outcome

1516
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 2: or factor into the outcome of a game, and that

1517
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: only gets fans more irate. So I get where you're

1518
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: coming from there.

1519
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: And I said that earlier. I said, you can take

1520
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: it as negative or positive. I'm I'm probably not as

1521
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: down on the officiating as a lot of people are.

1522
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: But I said this too, and Brownie just said it

1523
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: because the league forces parody on these clubs. It's hard

1524
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: to win in this league, and the margins become stuff.

1525
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: That's it's it's almost outside the game, you know how

1526
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 1: you can your coaching staff and your players be prepared

1527
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: enough to go in and win a game and make

1528
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: all the right decisions as the game unfolds. And all

1529
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: these teams are right there with their analytics, with their

1530
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: coaching staff, with their techniques, with their strategies, their adjustments.

1531
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: It's they're all right there. And the league is so

1532
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: even across the board, from the very best teams in

1533
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: the league to the worst teams. There's not the vast

1534
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: gulf of difference that you might think there is. So

1535
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: you get in these games and there are always one

1536
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: score games and it comes down to one or two plays,

1537
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: and if they're affected by the officials in those senses,

1538
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: in those instances, everybody's outraged. But that's now even the

1539
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: league is.

1540
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: And you get down. I've said it a ton.

1541
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: You go back across the however, there's six this year,

1542
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 1: three last year, and go into the year before, and

1543
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: you got a total of maybe ten games twelve games

1544
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: of one score games. But when the Bills, you can

1545
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 1: go down and you can break them down into the

1546
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: whole lot, into twelve plays that were the difference makers,

1547
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: like this last week before the bye, a fifty nine

1548
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: yard in a rain storm, the thirteen second game. You know,

1549
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: you go down those lists of the quarterback sneak against Minnesota.

1550
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one one play game after another, and

1551
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: if an officials involved in that, now everybody's outraged. But

1552
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 1: if he's not, it's like I can't believe that happened

1553
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: to us. That's where the league is, and Buffalo is

1554
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: the poster child of that environment, the poster child of

1555
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: parody of getting these games. Where are you kidding me?

1556
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 2: We lost that game?

1557
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it is, and and the official you know,

1558
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: and it happens early in games like it did in

1559
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: the first half against Philly, where you get nine thousand

1560
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: penalties on one team and zero on the other, and

1561
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, what are we doing here? And

1562
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: that's I'm not as down on that as everybody else.

1563
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: I think that's where kind of mean you want a

1564
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: league where everybody can win.

1565
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: That's kind of what it looks like. Ask for von Miller.

1566
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 2: The news reports out of Texas say he is. He

1567
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: was released on bond, So we'll see, I mean, is

1568
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: he on the practice field tomorrow? We'll find out tomorrow.

1569
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 2: And I would imagine that coach McDermott's going to be

1570
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 2: asked about Von's status as well when he addresses the

1571
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 2: media tomorrow. So I would stay tuned to those answers,

1572
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: and if you don't have time to hear them, we

1573
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: will bring you up to speed on tomorrow's show. For sure,

1574
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: let's go to Mike in Alden next. What do you

1575
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: got for us? Mike?

1576
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, heard are going for having I love what

1577
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 6: you guys do. I just wanted to bring up somebody

1578
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 6: I wanted to see break out. I noticed Andy as

1579
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 6: a Bella started last week. I think it might have

1580
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 6: been his first game, not sure, but yeah, I want

1581
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 6: to see him do something, man. I want to see

1582
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 6: him s get out there and maybe filling for Hardy

1583
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 6: do where he was supposed to do, or you know,

1584
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 6: I just want to see if we can get some

1585
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 6: action out of this guy.

1586
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting. He was called up for

1587
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: one other game this season, but he did not play

1588
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 2: on offense. Got called up for the Philly game and

1589
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: did play sparingly on offense and also on kick return

1590
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: special teams. So does he get another crack at it

1591
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: this week? We'll have to see. I mean, Steve, we

1592
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: know that Kansas City likes to play man to man defense.

1593
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: I like Andy Isabella in man to man situations. I

1594
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: do too.

1595
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: He's got great speed, great quick release of the line,

1596
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: and he can outrun people in routes and all all that.

1597
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: I think you need a guy like that to you know,

1598
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 1: take the top off the defense, open things up underneath

1599
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: for Gabe Davis to get some more targets, for Steph

1600
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Diggs to get through one on one coverage without a

1601
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: safety over the top because he's been run out that

1602
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. A guy with Andy Isabella's athleticism can

1603
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 1: make a difference on a over a wider area of

1604
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: the defense because of his ability to blast through it

1605
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 1: at a high rate of speed to get guys to

1606
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: like they got to back up and they got to

1607
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 1: carry him down the middle. It opens up space quicker

1608
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 1: just because he's fast. It's that simple. So yeah, I'm

1609
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: all about that because they have not used that much

1610
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: at this point of the season. But I think that's

1611
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: a guy who could certainly put a scare into the

1612
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: because even if they don't believe he's gonna cut, they

1613
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: got to cover him with somebody.

1614
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can't leave him alone.

1615
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: And he's and they got to do it with somebody

1616
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: who's fast or at least off the ball and open

1617
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 1: up space. I mean, he just forces the defense. It

1618
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: get spread a little thinner, a little faster.

1619
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: Jason on the tweet sheet says, James Cook, let's see

1620
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: him become Therminator two point zero starting against the Chiefs.

1621
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever gonna be Thurman, but

1622
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 2: he has a diverse skill set like Thurman. Does you

1623
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 2: want to tell me he's faster than Thurnman, I'll give

1624
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 2: you that. As effective as Thermon. That might be something different,

1625
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: but we'll see. I mean, he's had a productive season.

1626
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: He's among the league leaders in total yards from scrimmage.

1627
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: He went over a thousand yards in the Philadelphia game

1628
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 2: for total yards for scrimmage on the season with a

1629
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: oney thirty nine. Now on the year, he's been among

1630
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: the top ten rushers in the league all season long.

1631
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: And he's playing in a committee backfield. So that's pretty

1632
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: darn good production. I'd like to see more of them too,

1633
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: without question. Yeah, I think it'd be great. Ed On

1634
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet, Steve says Leonard Fournette, activate him and

1635
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 2: give him the rock. Otherwise, why is he here? Well,

1636
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: he's here to be an insurance. See essentially Latavius Murray,

1637
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson. He's similar to those guys in body type,

1638
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 2: and so I think we're there to be an injury

1639
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: to one of those two guys down the stretch. Here, Yeah,

1640
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: Fournett would be called up, but prior to that, I'm

1641
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: not sure, And I think most bills.

1642
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: You got to get to this point where when you

1643
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: make a move of that nature at any posit forget

1644
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: about running back, quarterback, wide receiver, offensive lineman, guard, tackle, center,

1645
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You make that move because you're dissatisfied

1646
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: with a player. Who's which running back? Are you dissatisfied

1647
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: with James Cook? I guess because you want to get

1648
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: him in and start him and give him the ball

1649
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: because James Cook and Latavius Murray and Ty Johnson have

1650
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: not been doing it. I mean that's your idea.

1651
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: I would respectively disagree, right.

1652
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you get to that

1653
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: point that quick, but I see, you know, just wanting

1654
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: to look at somebody different. Maybe I don't know, a

1655
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: different skill set. I don't know, but I think when

1656
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: you make a move like that, you have to be

1657
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: discontented with another player's production. I have a hard time

1658
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: getting there with the running back room right now. Yeah,

1659
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: as good as I think Leondard Fournette is, man Ty

1660
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Johnson and I've liked him, James Cook, I mean he

1661
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: had the big explosive play against Philly. A little bit

1662
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 1: of a roller coaster with the drop and all that,

1663
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: But goodness, the guy's doing kind of what he thought

1664
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: he was gonna do when he drafted him, right, So

1665
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't bench him for doing what

1666
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: you think he can do.

1667
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: Mac Papa on the tweets sheet says, ken Kaid's gonna

1668
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: come out putting up gronk numbers with Joe Brady's offense.

1669
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 2: He's been kind of been pretty consistent numbers since the

1670
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 2: New England game back in Week seven. I'm gonna run

1671
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: him down for you, Steve. Week seven against New England

1672
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: eight for seventy five, Week nine against Tampa or sorry,

1673
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: Week seven against New England eight for seventy five, Week

1674
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: nine against Tampa five for sixty five in a touchdown,

1675
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: Week nine against Cincy, ten for eighty one, Week ten

1676
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: against Denver five for fifty you want in a touchdown,

1677
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: Week eleven against the Jets, six for forty six. Week

1678
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: twelve against Philly five for thirty eight. Catch percentage in

1679
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: his last four games ninety one percent, eighty three percent,

1680
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: eighty six percent, eighty three percent. He's exactly. It's pretty consistent.

1681
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: He's exactly what they we'd hoped he'd be when they

1682
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: drafted him. A very good pass catching alternative option to

1683
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs and a matchup problem. And he catches everything.

1684
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, when you throw him the ball, he catches,

1685
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: it's a reception is positive yards. You can't say enough

1686
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: good things about him. He's been great and you think, well,

1687
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: and I would agree. Just give him more, you know,

1688
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: feed the guy more, more possibilities. Yeah, send him deeper,

1689
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: give him deeper routes, give him shallower routes, give him

1690
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: quicker routes, give him more long developing routes.

1691
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: All of it, all of it. Have it all in there, and.

1692
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Give the guy a chance to get one of those

1693
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: cases where more is more is better, more not less

1694
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: is more, More is better.

1695
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Steve and I close it up

1696
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: when we return here on a Tuesday edition at one

1697
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Stay tuned. Ticketmaster is the presenting sponsor the

1698
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills twenty twenty three season. Ticketmaster the official ticket

1699
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: marketplace of the NFL. Steve, there are three teams, all

1700
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: of them in the NFC. I know you're not surprised

1701
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: by this. Who have playoff clinching scenarios this weekend because

1702
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: there is separation there at the top.

1703
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: There's four teams with nine wins. Everybody else nobody has

1704
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: more than six, so you can start clenching out.

1705
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, the three teams are the

1706
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: San Francisco four nine Ers, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the

1707
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Now the Cowboys play the Eagles this week,

1708
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,480
Speaker 2: so one of those teams will not be clinching anything, presumably.

1709
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see. I don't believe any of these

1710
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: teams can clinch anything with a loss. Yeah, So Dallas

1711
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: has to win and other things have to happen, Philly

1712
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: has to win or tie and other things have to happen,

1713
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 2: and Sanfran has to win. So, but they're starting. It's

1714
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: that time of year and with some separation. As you

1715
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,919
Speaker 2: mentioned in the NFC, it is possible for Philly, Sanfran,

1716
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: or Dallas to clinch a playoff Berth. No division titles yet,

1717
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: but a playoff Berth. Yes. The AFC a little bit

1718
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: of a different picture. It's a wide open mess. Yeah,

1719
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: some wide open mess. Some interesting note about the Chief Steve.

1720
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: As we get more and more ready for this game

1721
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. In their score, they have their plus sixty

1722
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: three in net points this year, which is down for them.

1723
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: And in the fourth quarter, or actually in the second half,

1724
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: they're being outscored this season. Yeah, that's unusual. One oh

1725
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: four two. Let me see live math eighty three. One

1726
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 2: oh four to eighty three. They're being outscored in the

1727
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: second half this season. Well, they're not coming back and

1728
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: pulling out games like they have in the past. Listen,

1729
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: let's just hope that can.

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01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Be a dogfight. I think nobody's giving you nothing. It's

1731
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to beat them. They're gonna be out

1732
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: of their minds, and the Bills have got to have

1733
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: this game.

1734
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: I think.

1735
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be a game they win.

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01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: Players back on the practice field tomorrow. Will have full

1737
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: coverage of that along with post podium sound and we'll

1738
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: get the updates from coach McDermott as well. We'll see

1739
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: you tomorrow at one