WEBVTT - Conversations with Unc: Success Beyond The Fame with LARussell

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Little Duval and this is Conversations with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's guest is a West Coast rapper and founder of

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<v Speaker 1>Good Company, an organization that helps promote the rising Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Area artists. Let's welcome my Guyl Russell. What's up, It's

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<v Speaker 1>alive and direct, Its your boy, little duke, all your

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<v Speaker 1>country cousin, you know, vibe in DC, y'all back head

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<v Speaker 1>with all you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a special guests, just like every time we

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<v Speaker 2>own this bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>But this nigga here, just like one of the young, young,

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<v Speaker 1>young o g mined niggas that I fucked with from

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<v Speaker 1>a distance, I never got a chance to God damn

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<v Speaker 1>get to get to meet. Now I finally get to

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<v Speaker 1>meet him on this ship. So let me introduce you

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<v Speaker 1>all to my man, the Russell. What's up, nigga?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, gratitude. That was a great intro nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>as you were saying. And I'm like, I wish my

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<v Speaker 3>mama did this interview with me. I should have went house.

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<v Speaker 1>For real, nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>How is man would have been excited?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty nine, twenty nine, Hey man, Ben, Me and

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<v Speaker 1>Charla made talk about you all the time, man, cause

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<v Speaker 1>like like some some young motherfuckers, I be like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I see it. I'd be like, all right, they might

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<v Speaker 1>need a little healthy certain shit, but with you, I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he got it. You know what I'm saying. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I ain't talking about as far as you you

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<v Speaker 1>already made it, but I'm saying, like the mindset and

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<v Speaker 1>the understanding, right, you already got the understanding of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like even when it's doing even when they

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey man, let's get him on the shops,

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<v Speaker 1>like he don't really need much from me but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a life ship. But as far as understanding the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it, nigga. Or you know what's dope about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finally out of age now where I see certain

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<v Speaker 3>young niggas and I'm either like he got it or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, m nigga, get using that. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 3>So that that's how it is for real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's for real because like it's like certain kids,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you have kids, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>got it or not, but when you have kids, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at some kids you'd be like, oh nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got worried about him. He gonna be all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you see that one year he'd be like, nah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta got there, get his bail money ready because

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna be wid. You see what I'm saying. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people you just ain't gotta you ain't gotta

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<v Speaker 1>worry about. Some with you, we just be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this nigga, this nigga here, good man for so tell

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<v Speaker 1>him about you man for the people. For my heart

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<v Speaker 1>is that don't know you know, cause you know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a old hend you know what I'm saying, which

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<v Speaker 1>I like being. You know what I'm saying, But introduce

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and love know a little about you, Mike. For

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<v Speaker 1>those that don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I run a collective called good Company.

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<v Speaker 3>I wrap. I hate having to say all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying, man, because you're like, oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's hard to I ain't. When people ask me

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<v Speaker 1>so what you did, man, I'm like, I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, A lot of ship, a lot of shit. You

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<v Speaker 3>know a lot of things, and I do a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ship. That's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>So because it seems like you gotta understand, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you figure out, Like, all right, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I understand how to I ain't said you

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<v Speaker 1>got the you know the game, but you got understanding

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<v Speaker 1>enough to understand how to move after situation you at now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really came in increments throughout like every time. Every

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<v Speaker 3>time early I thought I had it, I learned some

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<v Speaker 3>shit late and be like Nigga, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck I was talking about. You feel me? So

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<v Speaker 3>it's really is a growing thing. I've had more. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a moment every day where I feel that. But

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the insurgence was like I started working

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<v Speaker 3>for like ups after I graduated high school.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigga's drive uper throughout the winner for the season. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like it was a bulldob though Nigga was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but I learned a lot from that job. I learned

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<v Speaker 3>how different my capacity and work ethic was like Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to grab packages and run to the houses

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<v Speaker 3>and drop them bitches off and truck I used to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the back and it was just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ship that I was doing that was improving the workflow.

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<v Speaker 3>That I was noticing early was.

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<v Speaker 1>Your rapping at that time too. I was rapping. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even the thing that I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like rapping subsequently, like not not trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make it just just as a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's as as a hobby. Yeah, like this hobby

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<v Speaker 1>for hobby. This I feel Lego. These all my little

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<v Speaker 1>legos I be building and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh down, nigga do ball leg man my one of

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<v Speaker 3>my best friends. He got we got some Lego figures

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<v Speaker 3>around the crib.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, nigga, don't make me shure. I got added to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I bet y'all got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I got all this ship man. I love this ship man.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, finish, finish, finish what you were saying at

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<v Speaker 1>my fault, I'm hot to.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's perfect. That's a perfect combination, nigga combination. Nah.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I was doing that ship, every driver that

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<v Speaker 3>I had worked with took a liking to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>they was like, I'm gonna hit you when I do

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<v Speaker 3>my route, when I when I'm make sure they give

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<v Speaker 3>me you you feel me. So I started noticing that

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<v Speaker 3>ship early and as I thank throughout my journey doing jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever position I came in asked was never what I

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<v Speaker 3>left ass and it was happening fast. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>I just knew, like the work, I knew, I understood

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<v Speaker 3>that part of my journey. Then you feel you understood.

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<v Speaker 1>That you had a personality that people was drawing to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's crazy. I didn't even think it was

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<v Speaker 3>my personality. Then I thought it was the fact I

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<v Speaker 3>was working hard, But.

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<v Speaker 1>It was reality.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all funny, that could have been it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all it is with you. That's why people like

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<v Speaker 1>like in general like while people like me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the talent is is a is a bonus, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>they see theyself in you. Are they are they see

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<v Speaker 1>a family member in you. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that's what they see it. That's what draw

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<v Speaker 1>up to you. Don't ever get it over. That's what,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this day and age, would enforce and everything. Nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is, Nigga. It's the and it's genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Because a lot of shit

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<v Speaker 1>you can see through it or why I can, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can fool a lot of motherfuckers because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mat the mother for us good at being good,

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<v Speaker 1>being a good fake guy you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people you can just see right through. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see like it's them. And and don't get it twisted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still a character because you have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>character for entertained wise, but you can see it as

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<v Speaker 1>a character of who you are in general. You get

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and that's what and that's what's and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's genuine in your and your lyrics and your personality.

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<v Speaker 2>And your prayer and in your social media and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you wearing nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on. The nigga gave you the word.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, hey man, that's the weed talking here. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the talk fact fact. I love it. Gratitude man, I

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate that. So I heard you was going on it.

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<v Speaker 4>They was telling me because yesterday was supposed to do it,

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<v Speaker 4>but you had to do something. E was telling me.

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<v Speaker 2>All you're going on a retreat or some ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yep, going on man. So it's this Indian

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<v Speaker 3>mystic name sad Guru who was one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>just a favorite human of mine. But he teaches like

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<v Speaker 3>you go on YouTube and he just teach you about life.

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<v Speaker 2>Ship.

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<v Speaker 3>But like Nigga, just ask him questions and he just

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<v Speaker 3>give you an answer. Right. He wrote a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>books here, author and shit. So I just been reading

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<v Speaker 3>his Ship and watching Ship for like the past few years,

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<v Speaker 3>and randomly they reached out to me and was like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing a private retreat and we want to welcome

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<v Speaker 3>you to it and invite you. And it was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope, man, that's dope that you're doing it at

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<v Speaker 2>that heze too.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you feel like your little son like like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't no kid to any but you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>my lither nephew like, and this nigga doing everything right

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<v Speaker 1>nigga like.

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<v Speaker 3>You do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you doing it at the right time too, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, because it's that's when he's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing at that journey, at your age, at

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<v Speaker 1>the you turn the twenty, that going into your thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. So you have full understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>And you gonna be all right, nigga, come on, So Ship,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, this this show too is bout like

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<v Speaker 1>you ask any kind of question. You asked me anything

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<v Speaker 1>about life, anything you anything, and if you if the

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<v Speaker 1>answer too deep or too crazy that you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to answer, Well, we can cut this shit out because

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<v Speaker 1>it's this ship is my ship. I don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck like I don't have to. I'm not the clickbake

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<v Speaker 1>nigga do this ship. I give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here I got, I got my first unk question

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<v Speaker 3>all because you have you have this cast, but you

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<v Speaker 3>get to you get to smoke weed and talk your

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<v Speaker 3>ship in the in the form that you do. So

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<v Speaker 3>how did that? How does that deal look for you?

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<v Speaker 3>And what did you negotiate.

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<v Speaker 1>With this one right here?

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<v Speaker 3>With with this right here, right this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly, honestly, this still was because I really never

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<v Speaker 1>want I'm I really never want to do a podcast, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Only reason I did this because my man, he my

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<v Speaker 1>mad Clay, this is like my my, my, my manager,

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<v Speaker 1>like my older brother and everything. He was everything to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and he kept forcing my hand to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody want me to get in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And I ain't even never want to do this ship

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm wonder the people.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see everybody doing it, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, you know what I'm saying. And then then

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<v Speaker 1>once I see how it skinning, how they the game winners.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all right, I ain't, but everybody keep telling me

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. So he was who made one told

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<v Speaker 1>me to do it. Then he died. He just died,

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying. So I'm really doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for him, to be honest with you. So really the deal,

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<v Speaker 1>the deal was really all for this nigga, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like he got he got the money,

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<v Speaker 1>he got half the money and died.

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<v Speaker 3>Contract that'swell to God.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it with black effect because they are

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<v Speaker 1>really my family, like with Dolly and Charlemagne. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>really like a family thing. I do it for because

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<v Speaker 1>like honestly, I wouldn't even doing this shit if it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't for them, honestly, because I post that this this

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<v Speaker 1>this this show, this ship was three four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I suposta have been there this shit. I just ain't

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<v Speaker 1>did it. But they so cool, They so cool with me,

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<v Speaker 1>because like this is real like family, family, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing because like for for people to be

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<v Speaker 1>in power to have family and you could do what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do, like cause I was fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>when I got hit by console.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out for like a year.

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<v Speaker 1>So they could have took the money back and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I said, fuck, but they didn't trimp off of

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<v Speaker 1>it and they waited for me. So really, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing it now just because there that's hard. That's beautiful, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that that shit leads to such a render outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Than then.

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<v Speaker 3>I do everything for bro like I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>do everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I do everything for love. And the money

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<v Speaker 1>part it just came natural. I never had to chase

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<v Speaker 1>money in my life, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blessed like that because I in certain times when

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<v Speaker 1>I came in the game, when I was younger, so

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<v Speaker 1>I it just was a blessing. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I never had to chase it, so I never cared

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<v Speaker 1>about money like most people do.

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<v Speaker 2>It just naturally came and the business came part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all to just understand the simple shit Like I

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<v Speaker 1>never complicated my business, you know what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>always kept my business simple as fuck, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>kept my business kind of private too. I don't let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in on my business because once you give everybody

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<v Speaker 1>your business, it's not a big it's it becomes it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes saturated. Like the podcast business.

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<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying, right, No, yigga, hey, nigga. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes very filter like it don't be real, it

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<v Speaker 3>be scripts, and it just it's kind an extra. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think that that improves the outcome? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>As far as what give me what you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I do you feel like when we be going to

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<v Speaker 3>like those podcasts and maybe having the scripts and the

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<v Speaker 3>saying all that shit, like it be better quality or

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<v Speaker 3>so not really though.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause shit, no, it's like I mean, honestly, when you

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<v Speaker 1>do the podcast doing I do it for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>There has to be a real reason behind why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, or I have to be a person that

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<v Speaker 1>I really fuck with, you see what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's somebody I really fuck with, I just do them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, because because.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast where they have a whole script and like the

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<v Speaker 3>questions written and you gotta like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they doing it's because that's the way. That's the way,

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, it's a gift for the curse because I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that's it seems like that's all that entertainment as

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<v Speaker 1>far as in as far as our community has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to it's just talking you see what I'm saying, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate like and I hate it because we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it right now, just fucking talking. But it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that this is what has come to, like we

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<v Speaker 1>do more of this than we do in the fuckingtaining

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So why you niggas ain't rapping right, No.

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<v Speaker 1>For real rapping and entertained performing like niggas. But but see,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I started in performing, so it's never I never.

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<v Speaker 1>I never got out of performing. I always understood the

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<v Speaker 1>power of it. And now it's got to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where the audience you can't fool him no more. So

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta god damn entertained or something. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>people like you don't always win, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You have all that all in one.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really works in my favorite loan run.

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<v Speaker 3>You get it. You're a niggah like bruh that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>What's crazy is like if you do the entertaining part,

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<v Speaker 3>you really don't even have to do the talking part,

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<v Speaker 3>like we do this shit. It's just like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>you hardly got around to like, alright, I do that,

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<v Speaker 3>you feel me, but you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>My little cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>He like, like I be crying this nigga right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a perfect example of somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>That he's just so talented. He let his talent do

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<v Speaker 2>the talking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Johana sweet here, producer, you the fuck with

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<v Speaker 1>him with Kalani.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard, I've seen it, Yah.

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<v Speaker 1>Caline Taylor Swift. This nigga he Drake, He just on

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<v Speaker 1>Drake three three songs on Drake abbat everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But like like your nephew nephew or my.

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<v Speaker 1>Cousin, this is like this is like my cousin cousin

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<v Speaker 1>like from boring, this is like my blood cousin. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we had like I could, I got pictures in there

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<v Speaker 1>that I sent it to you whatever. But like he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Juliard and everything, like he was raised right

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<v Speaker 1>and he came out right like especial. He came in

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<v Speaker 1>the girl of your hair because he's like twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>to two. So he's the same exact age as Colin,

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<v Speaker 1>you know all him like so so you can understand

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<v Speaker 1>what he is. So he came up the right way

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<v Speaker 1>without doing all the fuckery, and he's exact success. You

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<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying. So he's he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people always use as an example of you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to play the fuckery game, like and I don't and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't knock playing fucking game because sometimes that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you got.

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<v Speaker 3>And but you know what it is, It's like it's

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<v Speaker 3>how we antiquate success, right, Jahann Sweet is successful, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's not famous, like and that's what we live in

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<v Speaker 3>a time where niggas associate fame with success, right, some

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<v Speaker 3>people would rather be famous than successful, Like some people

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<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, that shit kind of always.

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<v Speaker 1>Been like they just got magnified. Is because fame ain't

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but attention. Like people want attention and attention it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like love when you ain't used to love. So

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what and that's all it is. People just

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<v Speaker 1>want attention. It's as simple as getting a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>in the club back in the day. That's what social

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<v Speaker 1>media is now as a shout out. He just feels attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the love and that's what is magnified now. So

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants love. They want their more than money. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying. So it's it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>catch twenty two of everything. So that's why and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we are as an entertainment wise. It's like people

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<v Speaker 1>so trying to chase the tension that we've lost value

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the entertainment, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>value in it there because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, you know what's crazy. Cancel culture has

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<v Speaker 3>showed niggas how much it's attention and how much when

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<v Speaker 3>a nigga don't love you, that attention can always be swayed.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's no love in it. And that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to already be programmed as a comedian. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, you kind of signed that's what you signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for to get black ball. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a real comedian, if you're really talking about life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like most comedians, you're not really a comedian if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't got canceled. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I get canceled. What's some up damn there?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think nobody got canceled more than me

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<v Speaker 1>because I've been canceled for over fifteen for fifteen years straight,

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<v Speaker 1>you get what I'm saying. So it's kind of comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the territory. So it's like, but it comes with

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<v Speaker 1>tough skin. But now I guess the all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of you, like, do you be apologizing?

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, I've never apologized. I've lost millions not apologizing. Ask

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<v Speaker 1>anybody about me. You better I don't. My My representation

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<v Speaker 1>speaks for myself. Ye'll tell you about I don't know ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I still got ship. Now. I can't do nothing because.

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<v Speaker 3>Nig you have.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't recommend doing that with me like what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>because like I still on the way I say, but

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<v Speaker 1>I understand what come with it too, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people that cry and be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't fuck with me because it's such and such.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like being mad at you're offer, not fucking with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's like I know what

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<v Speaker 1>comes with it. You see what I'm saying. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I if I say, if I say fuck this and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not apologized about it. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>if I if I'm wrong, I can stand a strengthening too.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. But if I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm wrong, I'm not apologizing, right, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But I don't recommend that.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigga. You gotta come to the crib. Please when you

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<v Speaker 3>out here, just come by the crib.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I will be up there next week's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect. We gotta lock in after this, we lock You

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<v Speaker 3>know how nigga be playing ship in the head already.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already trying to get you doing sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I got or I got some vibe ship for the

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<v Speaker 1>backyard that I'm full around entertainer ship. Just give me

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<v Speaker 1>a give me a drum and a keyboard.

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<v Speaker 2>This we vibe O.

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<v Speaker 3>God, that's that's me. Give me some keys.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, what's your what's your end? Go?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your end? Go?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's two at two parts in the game and

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<v Speaker 2>in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm. In life, I just want to die peaceful.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not to say not in any type of

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<v Speaker 3>specific way, but just at at peace. But I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that don't even matter. I don't know, I don't be

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<v Speaker 3>I don't be thinking about that ship as much as

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I should or or so.

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<v Speaker 1>I always always stink at the end and go backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you do it. Like you think about that

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<v Speaker 1>and go on backwards, and that's your life. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because I be. I'll be talking about like

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<v Speaker 3>digging a hole, right, and as you dig a hole,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh, I put a pool in here. And

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<v Speaker 3>once you get a pool, it's like, oh, we can

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<v Speaker 3>add lights around here. But some people just draw up

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<v Speaker 3>the whole blueprint first and then start that. But but

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<v Speaker 3>that's that? Does that give you ring to like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>your journey to where you are now? Was that a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>And you and you went backwards?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew from day one, Like even as a jit,

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<v Speaker 1>I always understood, even though I didn't understand the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of understood what I was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like I don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>give my example because it sounds was cliche, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like this niggas just think he's just God's

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<v Speaker 1>give for some ship. But it's just like I really

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of understood. I had really understanding at a

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<v Speaker 1>young age, eating like like nowadays, being a entertainer ain't nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I came up being at saying you it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a entertainer, especially where I'm from, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like seeing being an astronaut. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So niggas niggas bar was Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like you watched it, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think you could do it. You see what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just like you didn't understand it. But something

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind or maybe it's my I always give

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<v Speaker 1>the credit to my community because they kind of molded

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<v Speaker 1>me and sheltered me to to make me who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's why I always go back to my community

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<v Speaker 1>and and try to give back and do whatever I can.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. So my whole name is

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<v Speaker 1>my community. My Duval is Duval County, that's the whole city.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's crazy. You've always been a multifaceted figment

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<v Speaker 3>in my life, like and it's it's really dope because

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<v Speaker 3>it's very reflective of myself. I've never been able to

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<v Speaker 3>pinpoint specifically what you do because it's always something different

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<v Speaker 3>depending on what time we end. And that's really dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Just that's just a nod. That was just a thought

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<v Speaker 3>that crossed my mind. I started thinking, I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>this nigga do do comedy. He got the.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like what I said, what I say,

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<v Speaker 2>I see in you. It's like we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in one if each other, so we understand

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<v Speaker 1>each other with because we connect.

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<v Speaker 2>We connect just through just through our DNA, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That through our hair.

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<v Speaker 2>It is through who we are as a people, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the connection is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Even if you and it's genuine,

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<v Speaker 1>you caar what I'm saying. So even if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't never seen a stand up with me,

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<v Speaker 1>you see me as as an up.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying, especially through social media, because what.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't realize, I've been on social media more

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody. And what we don't understand is nothing been

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful than social media the last fifteen twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>And every morning you wake up, ain't gonna see little Dufo.

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<v Speaker 1>So every morning, if you're waking up, I'm like your

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<v Speaker 1>family member. So you was raised with me. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>being raised on Nickelodeon.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like people that was raised on Nick Cannon. Like now,

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>people forty years old, they still love Nick Cannon because

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they was raised on the Knicks. And that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>can is. With social media and everything with me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you was raised with me through Twitter, through my Space,

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>through Instagram, through YouTube, through comic Youth, through the TV show,

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>through the movies, everything, because I understand, and that's all entertainment,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's all everybody do. That's all shit you do.

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You ain't just a rapper, you everything. You're a businessman.

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<v Speaker 1>You act, you can act at any moment. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>this whole generation is. That's how entertainment was at one

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<v Speaker 1>time in general. It just in the eighties it broke

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<v Speaker 1>off into different ships, but we was always doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>like That's that's why I call myself Sammy Davis Duval

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<v Speaker 1>because that's all he did. Everything that nigga saying, dance.

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<v Speaker 3>How much in your life? Now it's ship that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't do. You still have to do ship that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't desire to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you enough. That's a blessing that I've

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<v Speaker 1>always had. I've always had to let you to do

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck I want to do. That's what it's

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<v Speaker 1>harder for me to try to do. Other ship. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear to God, I be trying to do like because

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<v Speaker 1>like I be, like, damn, maybe if I try to,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 1>but I'm so programmed to do what the fuck I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. I don't know how to do nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>feel to myself. That's why always get the lead on

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<v Speaker 1>social media because I'm so used to do what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck I want to do. I can't even do right up,

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I try, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And that's a beautiful to me. It made me think.

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 3>It made me think of Boozy Boozie gonna always get

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>the leader and rebuild some ship because Boozie not doing

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>nothing but being boozy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, even with me, I'm just who I am

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.639
<v Speaker 1>because but I've never it's never intentionally like trying to

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck people over, trying to intentionally hurt people are fucking

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<v Speaker 1>minds off. It's just me being just like and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a reflection of who our whole community is when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to social media, because they not only when

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<v Speaker 1>they flag me or some ship, they really flagg and

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>our die thek on how we talk because that's usually

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>what it is, and and I talk just a reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of who our community is.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, so the funny that's true, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>they're taking intentional things that we just say to each

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<v Speaker 3>other because nigga, when you come up from here like

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's how that's ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that comments not if somebody tell me to

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, they get flagged for telling me to shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we just you know, we just might man, man,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up man. But they take it like that because

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but that's what they always do. They use us to

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<v Speaker 1>come up on the They've been doing this even before sociid.

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>They use our platform as our culture to build a brand.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And once they build the brand, they move on and

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>then ship on our ship. They've been doing that shit.

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>They did that with Fox Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you met anyone in your journey that surprised you

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 3>in terms of who they were, Like they were either

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 3>way better than you thought or like Nigga, that nigga

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 3>ain't nothing like y'all think he is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's plenty of that, man.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Niggas ain't nothing that they think is.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as I can tell you, the most

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<v Speaker 1>genuine person in hip hop, dude, that's Snoop. Snoop the

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>most genuine person in hip hop. I think Snoop. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as far as the biggest names, but as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like uh like DJ Pooh, you a genuine good guy.

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh these the ogs timp of genuine t I he's

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a genuine good guy, but he's like one of them stubboring,

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>like if he love you, he love you want them

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>stubbing good guys.

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>But if he's what you gonna rab at that which

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 2>genuine good guy? Uh shit? Who else?

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to think off the top of my head.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>My man is just passed clay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's plenty of it's plenty good people in there,

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's plenty good people. And then too, I

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>can't say too many people fuck you because I don't

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>look for ship out of people a lot. So you

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>can't fuck though, because I'm not expecting ship from most people.

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the expectations on people, so I rarely,

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I rarely see the fuck shitting in people like that there,

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like, now, there's plenty of

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>people like I see Charlamagne. Charlamagne, he's a different type

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of motherfucker, like he'll help anybody. Then I was like, hey, man,

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a niggas he's gonna fuck yo. You're gonna realize dan

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>agn ship. And then nine times out of ten every

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>person I told him what ship and what're gonna fuck

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>him over?

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>They end up doing it, you know what I'm saying.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, shit, who else, it's a

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of It's a lot of genuine people, man, a

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of black genuine women out here. Man. That's that's

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna see most of the black women. They

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of They the ones ship on the

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>load that show a lot of love.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Fact they make shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, man, But yeah, member ship anything else.

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>That's the last thing.

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Then we out this motherfucking right because we're ben't.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking though, right.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, I don't do those This another thing I don't

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like just random just just just rare them, just talking.

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I like to make it make sense, like talking.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Now two hours I hate, I swear to god, I've

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>never watched the two hours.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I've never watched the two hour. I've never watched a podcast.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's the craziest part, you know. But the thing

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 3>is like I get it only because one episode. Like

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm a nigga, who right, every time I do an interview,

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 3>I go in and I take all the pieces I

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 3>need out of that interview, and it's like if you

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>had one good episode. Nigga, you got about forty fifty

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>clips for the rest of your year. You ain't gotta

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>do ship outs on social media but running fucking clips

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>and run your ad and you know, like you eat,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 3>but sometimes it'd be two hours.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Got played out now because niggas done. Read that ship

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>in the ground.

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Right, you know? Yes? But no, bro, It's funny because

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 3>earlier you were saying how you was like, you'll see

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 3>niggas doing shit and you like, I ain't doing that

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 3>shit because niggas doing it. But really, with your mind,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 3>if you see niggas doing ship that's just an opportunity

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 3>you to be like, I do that shit way better

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>than them niggas because you have you have the actual

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 3>thing like me, and you have that thing that everybody

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>push Like nigga, we can do what.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Me and them they say the same thing. But I'm

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm stubborn, but I listened. I listened to certain people.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>So listen to.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Me only doing it because of them?

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 3>No, but listen, nigga, Look just this talk me and

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>you had on riverside with our blurry screens, and you

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>feel me like nigga, imagine if you somewhere in this

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 3>same kind like when it happens when you come to

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>the to the yard or we meet and we get

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 3>the cambrage and shit like, bro, it only amplifies it

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in the ship that you already do because it's like

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>you already doing it, Nigga. Just just watch.

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>You're right, man, you're right. That's God, Man, that's God

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>telling you to tell me, Man, stop.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Boring, right for real? Because this ship, Bro, we just

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 3>had a great time and it was short and it's

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 3>better than that scripted old nigga. This ship was organic

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 3>as fucked, So it's like if you know you could

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>do it on that level because everybody doing it, Nigga,

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 3>this shit a wig that was a that was It's

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 3>a w Nigga. This was great. This is one of

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>my favorite interviews. And we did this ship on zoom

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 3>with with a blurry screen. Nigga. Nigga broke like a motherfucker, Nigga,

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 3>like a month when you when it only but it's

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 3>like it don't even have to be But I get it.

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna always.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Up with stupid.

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>That's my mind.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Kiss keep yourself for stupid.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 3>I still record in the crib, but I'm getting to it.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>It's that point where like, Okay, we gotta maintain what

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>we want, so we do whatever the fuck we won't

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 3>because I have to do whatever the fuck I want.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's like, it's like when you gotta go to

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>the airport, you can have a Honda accuratey Yo six

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 3>pick you up, or you can get a black escalade,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 3>and neither of those is really gonna cost you difference

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>when you're doing the ship, you're supposed to do the word.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 3>You feel me? So, nick I just already see it

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 3>because this was a good ass fucking brother. Them niggas

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 3>don't be having that thing, and so we're flooded with

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of amateurs who don't have that thing, who

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 3>are trying to have that thing.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But see, that's what honestly, I want when it comes up,

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to art. When it comes to art,

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like I need people around me that's gonna make me,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>make me wanting to give a fuck.

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not impressed with.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Nothing, nigga. That's what I like.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>It's no more because it's like, yes, like the last

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty years and this ain't the shit on nobody movie

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I can name baby two movies I'd be like, damn,

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have did that. Other than that,

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't no movies made me give a fuck by being

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it ain't nothing.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Like no one's crazy though, because we have representations like

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Charlemagne is a really great representation of a nigga who's

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.719
<v Speaker 3>been a nigga but at it except like profess like

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 3>no matter what level he has to do, and he

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 3>remains in Charlemagne, and that'd be our biggest thing. We

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>were like, nigga, want that shit get there, come it becomes.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>But like she's saying, if niggas like me and you

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 3>decided to do it, nigga is a home run because

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 3>we don't have to do nothing but be us. Everybody

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 3>else gotta get the lives and they dance and they

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>gotta do all the extra shit. But we don't have

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 3>to do nothing but be us.

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know what's so hard about it? You know,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you know it's so hard about it when it's really you,

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you take it for granted. I'd be taking it for

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>granted sometimes because it comes so second nature.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, and you know I'll be battling with that because

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll be like some days I be upset that everybody thinks,

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 3>knows and feels like I'm the nigga that I.

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 5>Am nigga that ship some rich like wrong with these niggas.

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Fuck wrong with these niggas.

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>So now I gotta come out there and fuck with

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<v Speaker 1>y'all for real, man, I gotta come out there with

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<v Speaker 1>y'all for real, for real.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't please do I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>hold you no more, no, no longer. But nigga, just

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<v Speaker 3>this was great. I feel like we both got information

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<v Speaker 3>we needed to hear from each other. I'm so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, still sharp and still.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the same ship, nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>Sa, Hey, this was dope as fun. Man, I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I appreciate you too. Man. But like I say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you checking in man, Vick, y'all tu and

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<v Speaker 1>that next time the Black Effect Man, and I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>this bitch. Thanks for listen to another episode of Conversation

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