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Speaker 1: I'm Little Duval and this is Conversations with the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is a West Coast rapper and founder of

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Speaker 1: Good Company, an organization that helps promote the rising Bay

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Speaker 1: Area artists. Let's welcome my Guyl Russell. What's up, It's

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Speaker 1: alive and direct, Its your boy, little duke, all your

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Speaker 1: country cousin, you know, vibe in DC, y'all back head

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Speaker 1: with all you know.

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Speaker 2: We got a special guests, just like every time we

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Speaker 2: own this bitch.

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Speaker 1: But this nigga here, just like one of the young, young,

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Speaker 1: young o g mined niggas that I fucked with from

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Speaker 1: a distance, I never got a chance to God damn

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Speaker 1: get to get to meet. Now I finally get to

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Speaker 1: meet him on this ship. So let me introduce you

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Speaker 1: all to my man, the Russell. What's up, nigga?

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, gratitude. That was a great intro nigga,

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Speaker 3: as you were saying. And I'm like, I wish my

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Speaker 3: mama did this interview with me. I should have went house.

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Speaker 1: For real, nigga.

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Speaker 3: How is man would have been excited?

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine, twenty nine, Hey man, Ben, Me and

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Speaker 1: Charla made talk about you all the time, man, cause

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Speaker 1: like like some some young motherfuckers, I be like, like,

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Speaker 1: I see it. I'd be like, all right, they might

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Speaker 1: need a little healthy certain shit, but with you, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: he got it. You know what I'm saying. Like it's

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Speaker 1: like I ain't talking about as far as you you

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Speaker 1: already made it, but I'm saying, like the mindset and

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Speaker 1: the understanding, right, you already got the understanding of everything.

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Speaker 1: So it's like even when it's doing even when they

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Speaker 1: was like, hey man, let's get him on the shops,

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Speaker 1: like he don't really need much from me but maybe

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Speaker 1: a life ship. But as far as understanding the game,

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Speaker 1: you got it, nigga. Or you know what's dope about that.

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Speaker 3: I'm finally out of age now where I see certain

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Speaker 3: young niggas and I'm either like he got it or

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Speaker 3: I'm like, m nigga, get using that. You feel me?

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Speaker 3: So that that's how it is for real.

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Speaker 1: It's it's for real because like it's like certain kids,

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Speaker 1: like when you have kids, I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: got it or not, but when you have kids, you'll

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Speaker 1: start looking at some kids you'd be like, oh nah,

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Speaker 1: I ain't got worried about him. He gonna be all right,

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Speaker 1: but then you see that one year he'd be like, nah, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta got there, get his bail money ready because

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Speaker 1: he gonna be wid. You see what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 1: but some people you just ain't gotta you ain't gotta

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Speaker 1: worry about. Some with you, we just be like, man,

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Speaker 1: this nigga, this nigga here, good man for so tell

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Speaker 1: him about you man for the people. For my heart

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Speaker 1: is that don't know you know, cause you know I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a old hend you know what I'm saying, which

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Speaker 1: I like being. You know what I'm saying, But introduce

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Speaker 1: yourself and love know a little about you, Mike. For

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Speaker 1: those that don't know.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I run a collective called good Company.

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Speaker 3: I wrap. I hate having to say all these things.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, man, because you're like, oh God,

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Speaker 1: like it's hard to I ain't. When people ask me

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Speaker 1: so what you did, man, I'm like, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 3: Right, A lot of ship, a lot of shit. You

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Speaker 3: know a lot of things, and I do a lot

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Speaker 3: of ship. That's the best.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: So because it seems like you gotta understand, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: when did you figure out, Like, all right, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I think I understand how to I ain't said you

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Speaker 1: got the you know the game, but you got understanding

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Speaker 1: enough to understand how to move after situation you at now.

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Speaker 3: It's really came in increments throughout like every time. Every

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Speaker 3: time early I thought I had it, I learned some

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Speaker 3: shit late and be like Nigga, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: the fuck I was talking about. You feel me? So

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Speaker 3: it's really is a growing thing. I've had more. I

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Speaker 3: have a moment every day where I feel that. But

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Speaker 3: I feel like the insurgence was like I started working

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Speaker 3: for like ups after I graduated high school.

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Speaker 2: You know that's a good job.

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Speaker 3: Nigga's drive uper throughout the winner for the season. It

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Speaker 3: was like it was a bulldob though Nigga was you know,

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Speaker 3: but I learned a lot from that job. I learned

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Speaker 3: how different my capacity and work ethic was like Nigga.

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Speaker 3: I used to grab packages and run to the houses

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Speaker 3: and drop them bitches off and truck I used to

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Speaker 3: go in the back and it was just a lot

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Speaker 3: of ship that I was doing that was improving the workflow.

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Speaker 3: That I was noticing early was.

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Speaker 1: Your rapping at that time too. I was rapping. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: even the thing that I was.

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Speaker 3: I was like rapping subsequently, like not not trying to

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Speaker 3: make it just just as a hobby.

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Speaker 1: And that's as as a hobby. Yeah, like this hobby

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Speaker 1: for hobby. This I feel Lego. These all my little

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Speaker 1: legos I be building and ship.

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Speaker 3: Oh down, nigga do ball leg man my one of

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Speaker 3: my best friends. He got we got some Lego figures

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Speaker 3: around the crib.

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Speaker 1: Oh, nigga, don't make me shure. I got added to

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Speaker 1: whatever I bet y'all got it.

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Speaker 3: Hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I got all this ship man. I love this ship man.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, finish, finish, finish what you were saying at

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Speaker 1: my fault, I'm hot to.

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Speaker 3: So that's perfect. That's a perfect combination, nigga combination. Nah.

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Speaker 3: But when I was doing that ship, every driver that

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Speaker 3: I had worked with took a liking to me, and

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Speaker 3: they was like, I'm gonna hit you when I do

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Speaker 3: my route, when I when I'm make sure they give

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Speaker 3: me you you feel me. So I started noticing that

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Speaker 3: ship early and as I thank throughout my journey doing jobs,

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Speaker 3: whatever position I came in asked was never what I

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Speaker 3: left ass and it was happening fast. So I just

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Speaker 3: I just knew, like the work, I knew, I understood

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Speaker 3: that part of my journey. Then you feel you understood.

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Speaker 1: That you had a personality that people was drawing to.

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Speaker 3: You know what's crazy. I didn't even think it was

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Speaker 3: my personality. Then I thought it was the fact I

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Speaker 3: was working hard, But.

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Speaker 1: It was reality.

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Speaker 3: That's all funny, that could have been it.

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Speaker 1: That's all it is with you. That's why people like

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Speaker 1: like in general like while people like me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the talent is is a is a bonus, but it's

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Speaker 1: they see theyself in you. Are they are they see

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Speaker 1: a family member in you. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like that's what they see it. That's what draw

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Speaker 1: up to you. Don't ever get it over. That's what,

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Speaker 1: especially in this day and age, would enforce and everything. Nigga.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is, Nigga. It's the and it's genuine.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because a lot of shit

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Speaker 1: you can see through it or why I can, like,

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Speaker 1: you can fool a lot of motherfuckers because a lot

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Speaker 1: it's a mat the mother for us good at being good,

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Speaker 1: being a good fake guy you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but some people you can just see right through. You

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Speaker 1: can see like it's them. And and don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 1: It's still a character because you have to be a

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Speaker 1: character for entertained wise, but you can see it as

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Speaker 1: a character of who you are in general. You get

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and that's what and that's what's and

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Speaker 1: that's what's genuine in your and your lyrics and your personality.

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Speaker 2: And your prayer and in your social media and everything.

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Speaker 2: That's why you wearing nigga.

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Speaker 3: Come on. The nigga gave you the word.

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Speaker 4: Come on, hey man, that's the weed talking here. That's

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Speaker 4: the talk fact fact. I love it. Gratitude man, I

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Speaker 4: appreciate that. So I heard you was going on it.

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Speaker 4: They was telling me because yesterday was supposed to do it,

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Speaker 4: but you had to do something. E was telling me.

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Speaker 2: All you're going on a retreat or some ship.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yep, going on man. So it's this Indian

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Speaker 3: mystic name sad Guru who was one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: just a favorite human of mine. But he teaches like

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Speaker 3: you go on YouTube and he just teach you about life.

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Speaker 2: Ship.

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Speaker 3: But like Nigga, just ask him questions and he just

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Speaker 3: give you an answer. Right. He wrote a couple of

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Speaker 3: books here, author and shit. So I just been reading

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Speaker 3: his Ship and watching Ship for like the past few years,

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Speaker 3: and randomly they reached out to me and was like,

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Speaker 3: we're doing a private retreat and we want to welcome

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Speaker 3: you to it and invite you. And it was just like,

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Speaker 3: what the fuck.

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Speaker 2: That's dope, man, that's dope that you're doing it at

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Speaker 2: that heze too.

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Speaker 1: Man, you feel like your little son like like I said,

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Speaker 1: I ain't no kid to any but you feel like

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Speaker 1: my lither nephew like, and this nigga doing everything right

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Speaker 1: nigga like.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 1: And you doing it at the right time too, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because it's that's when he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be doing at that journey, at your age, at

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Speaker 1: the you turn the twenty, that going into your thirties.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So you have full understanding.

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Speaker 1: And you gonna be all right, nigga, come on, So Ship,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, this this show too is bout like

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Speaker 1: you ask any kind of question. You asked me anything

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Speaker 1: about life, anything you anything, and if you if the

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Speaker 1: answer too deep or too crazy that you don't want

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Speaker 1: to answer, Well, we can cut this shit out because

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Speaker 1: it's this ship is my ship. I don't give a

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Speaker 1: fuck like I don't have to. I'm not the clickbake

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Speaker 1: nigga do this ship. I give a fuck.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here I got, I got my first unk question

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Speaker 3: all because you have you have this cast, but you

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Speaker 3: get to you get to smoke weed and talk your

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Speaker 3: ship in the in the form that you do. So

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Speaker 3: how did that? How does that deal look for you?

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Speaker 3: And what did you negotiate.

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Speaker 1: With this one right here?

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Speaker 3: With with this right here, right this one?

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Speaker 1: Well, honestly, honestly, this still was because I really never

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Speaker 1: want I'm I really never want to do a podcast, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Only reason I did this because my man, he my

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Speaker 1: mad Clay, this is like my my, my, my manager,

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Speaker 1: like my older brother and everything. He was everything to me,

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Speaker 1: and he kept forcing my hand to do it because

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Speaker 1: everybody want me to get in the podcast.

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Speaker 2: And I ain't even never want to do this ship

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Speaker 2: because I'm wonder the people.

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Speaker 1: If I see everybody doing it, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do it, you know what I'm saying. And then then

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Speaker 1: once I see how it skinning, how they the game winners.

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Speaker 1: Like all right, I ain't, but everybody keep telling me

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Speaker 1: to do it. So he was who made one told

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Speaker 1: me to do it. Then he died. He just died,

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Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. So I'm really doing it

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Speaker 1: for him, to be honest with you. So really the deal,

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Speaker 1: the deal was really all for this nigga, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like he got he got the money,

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Speaker 1: he got half the money and died.

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Speaker 3: Contract that'swell to God.

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Speaker 1: And I did it with black effect because they are

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Speaker 1: really my family, like with Dolly and Charlemagne. So it's

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Speaker 3: You get it. You're a niggah like bruh that shit.

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Speaker 3: What's crazy is like if you do the entertaining part,

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Speaker 2: My little cousin.

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Speaker 1: He like, like I be crying this nigga right, Like

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Speaker 2: That he's just so talented. He let his talent do

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Speaker 1: It's like Johana sweet here, producer, you the fuck with

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Speaker 3: I've heard, I've seen it, Yah.

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Speaker 3: And but you know what it is, It's like it's

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Speaker 1: Been like they just got magnified. Is because fame ain't

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Speaker 1: It's the love and that's what is magnified now. So

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Speaker 3: It's you know, you know what's crazy. Cancel culture has

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Speaker 1: But you have to already be programmed as a comedian. Well,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think nobody got canceled more than me

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like I know what

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Speaker 3: Nigga. You gotta come to the crib. Please when you

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Speaker 3: Perfect. We gotta lock in after this, we lock You

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Speaker 3: I'm already trying to get you doing sick.

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Speaker 2: This we vibe O.

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Speaker 3: God, that's that's me. Give me some keys.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what's your what's your end? Go?

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Speaker 2: What's your end? Go?

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Speaker 2: And it's two at two parts in the game and

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Speaker 1: That's how you do it. Like you think about that

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Speaker 3: And you and you went backwards?

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Speaker 1: I knew from day one, Like even as a jit,

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Speaker 1: But when I came up being at saying you it

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Speaker 1: think you could do it. You see what I'm saying,

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00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: Like it's just like you didn't understand it. But something

435
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: in my mind or maybe it's my I always give

436
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: the credit to my community because they kind of molded

437
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: me and sheltered me to to make me who I am.

438
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: Who I am.

439
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: Now, that's why I always go back to my community

440
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: and and try to give back and do whatever I can.

441
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So my whole name is

442
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: my community. My Duval is Duval County, that's the whole city.

443
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy. You've always been a multifaceted figment

444
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: in my life, like and it's it's really dope because

445
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 3: it's very reflective of myself. I've never been able to

446
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: pinpoint specifically what you do because it's always something different

447
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: depending on what time we end. And that's really dope.

448
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 3: Just that's just a nod. That was just a thought

449
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: that crossed my mind. I started thinking, I'm like, damn,

450
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: this nigga do do comedy. He got the.

451
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: It's kind of like what I said, what I say,

452
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: I see in you. It's like we are.

453
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: We are in one if each other, so we understand

454
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: each other with because we connect.

455
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: We connect just through just through our DNA, you know.

456
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: That through our hair.

457
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: It is through who we are as a people, and

458
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: that's what the connection is.

459
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Even if you and it's genuine,

460
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: you caar what I'm saying. So even if you don't,

461
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: even if you don't never seen a stand up with me,

462
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: you see me as as an up.

463
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, especially through social media, because what.

464
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: Most people don't realize, I've been on social media more

465
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: than anybody. And what we don't understand is nothing been

466
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: more powerful than social media the last fifteen twenty years.

467
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: And every morning you wake up, ain't gonna see little Dufo.

468
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: So every morning, if you're waking up, I'm like your

469
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: family member. So you was raised with me. It's like

470
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: being raised on Nickelodeon.

471
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

472
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: It's like people that was raised on Nick Cannon. Like now,

473
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: people forty years old, they still love Nick Cannon because

474
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: they was raised on the Knicks. And that's where the

475
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: can is. With social media and everything with me, it's

476
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: like you was raised with me through Twitter, through my Space,

477
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: through Instagram, through YouTube, through comic Youth, through the TV show,

478
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: through the movies, everything, because I understand, and that's all entertainment,

479
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: and that's all everybody do. That's all shit you do.

480
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: You ain't just a rapper, you everything. You're a businessman.

481
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: You act, you can act at any moment. That's all

482
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: this whole generation is. That's how entertainment was at one

483
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: time in general. It just in the eighties it broke

484
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: off into different ships, but we was always doing everything

485
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: like That's that's why I call myself Sammy Davis Duval

486
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: because that's all he did. Everything that nigga saying, dance.

487
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 3: How much in your life? Now it's ship that you

488
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: don't do. You still have to do ship that you

489
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: don't desire to do.

490
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you enough. That's a blessing that I've

491
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: always had. I've always had to let you to do

492
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck I want to do. That's what it's

493
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: harder for me to try to do. Other ship. I

494
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: swear to God, I be trying to do like because

495
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: like I be, like, damn, maybe if I try to,

496
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: but I'm so programmed to do what the fuck I

497
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: want to do. I don't know how to do nothing else.

498
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how to I don't know how to

499
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: feel to myself. That's why always get the lead on

500
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: social media because I'm so used to do what the

501
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: fuck I want to do. I can't even do right up,

502
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: I try, I'm.

503
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: Right, And that's a beautiful to me. It made me think.

504
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: It made me think of Boozy Boozie gonna always get

505
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: the leader and rebuild some ship because Boozie not doing

506
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: nothing but being boozy.

507
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, even with me, I'm just who I am

508
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: because but I've never it's never intentionally like trying to

509
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: fuck people over, trying to intentionally hurt people are fucking

510
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: minds off. It's just me being just like and honestly,

511
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm a reflection of who our whole community is when

512
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: it comes to social media, because they not only when

513
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: they flag me or some ship, they really flagg and

514
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: our die thek on how we talk because that's usually

515
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: what it is, and and I talk just a reflection

516
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: of who our community is.

517
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: So you know, so the funny that's true, Like they

518
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: they're taking intentional things that we just say to each

519
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: other because nigga, when you come up from here like

520
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: that's that's how that's ship.

521
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: It's like that comments not if somebody tell me to

522
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: shut up, they get flagged for telling me to shut up.

523
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Well we just you know, we just might man, man,

524
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: shut up man. But they take it like that because

525
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: but that's what they always do. They use us to

526
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: come up on the They've been doing this even before sociid.

527
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: They use our platform as our culture to build a brand.

528
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: And once they build the brand, they move on and

529
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: then ship on our ship. They've been doing that shit.

530
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: They did that with Fox Network.

531
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: Have you met anyone in your journey that surprised you

532
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: in terms of who they were, Like they were either

533
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: way better than you thought or like Nigga, that nigga

534
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: ain't nothing like y'all think he is.

535
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: It's plenty of that, man.

536
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: Niggas ain't nothing that they think is.

537
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: But as far as I can tell you, the most

538
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: genuine person in hip hop, dude, that's Snoop. Snoop the

539
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: most genuine person in hip hop. I think Snoop. I

540
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: mean as far as the biggest names, but as far

541
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: as like uh like DJ Pooh, you a genuine good guy.

542
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Uh these the ogs timp of genuine t I he's

543
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: a genuine good guy, but he's like one of them stubboring,

544
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: like if he love you, he love you want them

545
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: stubbing good guys.

546
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: But if he's what you gonna rab at that which

547
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: genuine good guy? Uh shit? Who else?

548
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think off the top of my head.

549
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: My man is just passed clay.

550
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Ship.

551
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: Now it's plenty of it's plenty good people in there,

552
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: Like it's it's plenty good people. And then too, I

553
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: can't say too many people fuck you because I don't

554
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: look for ship out of people a lot. So you

555
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: can't fuck though, because I'm not expecting ship from most people.

556
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

557
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: I don't have the expectations on people, so I rarely,

558
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: I rarely see the fuck shitting in people like that there,

559
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, now, there's plenty of

560
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: people like I see Charlamagne. Charlamagne, he's a different type

561
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: of motherfucker, like he'll help anybody. Then I was like, hey, man,

562
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: a niggas he's gonna fuck yo. You're gonna realize dan

563
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: agn ship. And then nine times out of ten every

564
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: person I told him what ship and what're gonna fuck

565
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: him over?

566
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: They end up doing it, you know what I'm saying.

567
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: But for the most part, shit, who else, it's a

568
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of It's a lot of genuine people, man, a

569
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: lot of black genuine women out here. Man. That's that's

570
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: where you're gonna see most of the black women. They

571
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: do a lot of They the ones ship on the

572
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: load that show a lot of love.

573
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: Fact they make shape.

574
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, But yeah, member ship anything else.

575
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: That's the last thing.

576
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Then we out this motherfucking right because we're ben't.

577
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: Talking though, right.

578
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Right, I don't do those This another thing I don't

579
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: like just random just just just rare them, just talking.

580
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: I like to make it make sense, like talking.

581
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Now two hours I hate, I swear to god, I've

582
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: never watched the two hours.

583
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: I've never watched the two hour. I've never watched a podcast.

584
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: Right, that's the craziest part, you know. But the thing

585
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: is like I get it only because one episode. Like

586
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm a nigga, who right, every time I do an interview,

587
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: I go in and I take all the pieces I

588
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: need out of that interview, and it's like if you

589
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: had one good episode. Nigga, you got about forty fifty

590
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: clips for the rest of your year. You ain't gotta

591
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: do ship outs on social media but running fucking clips

592
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: and run your ad and you know, like you eat,

593
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: but sometimes it'd be two hours.

594
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Got played out now because niggas done. Read that ship

595
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: in the ground.

596
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: Right, you know? Yes? But no, bro, It's funny because

597
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: earlier you were saying how you was like, you'll see

598
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: niggas doing shit and you like, I ain't doing that

599
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: shit because niggas doing it. But really, with your mind,

600
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: if you see niggas doing ship that's just an opportunity

601
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: you to be like, I do that shit way better

602
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: than them niggas because you have you have the actual

603
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: thing like me, and you have that thing that everybody

604
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: push Like nigga, we can do what.

605
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Me and them they say the same thing. But I'm

606
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm stubborn, but I listened. I listened to certain people.

607
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: So listen to.

608
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Me only doing it because of them?

609
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: No, but listen, nigga, Look just this talk me and

610
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: you had on riverside with our blurry screens, and you

611
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: feel me like nigga, imagine if you somewhere in this

612
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: same kind like when it happens when you come to

613
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: the to the yard or we meet and we get

614
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: the cambrage and shit like, bro, it only amplifies it

615
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: in the ship that you already do because it's like

616
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: you already doing it, Nigga. Just just watch.

617
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: You're right, man, you're right. That's God, Man, that's God

618
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: telling you to tell me, Man, stop.

619
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: Boring, right for real? Because this ship, Bro, we just

620
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: had a great time and it was short and it's

621
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: better than that scripted old nigga. This ship was organic

622
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: as fucked, So it's like if you know you could

623
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: do it on that level because everybody doing it, Nigga,

624
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: this shit a wig that was a that was It's

625
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: a w Nigga. This was great. This is one of

626
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: my favorite interviews. And we did this ship on zoom

627
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: with with a blurry screen. Nigga. Nigga broke like a motherfucker, Nigga,

628
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: like a month when you when it only but it's

629
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: like it don't even have to be But I get it.

630
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna always.

631
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: Up with stupid.

632
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: That's my mind.

633
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Kiss keep yourself for stupid.

634
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 3: I still record in the crib, but I'm getting to it.

635
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: It's that point where like, Okay, we gotta maintain what

636
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: we want, so we do whatever the fuck we won't

637
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: because I have to do whatever the fuck I want.

638
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: But it's like, it's like when you gotta go to

639
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: the airport, you can have a Honda accuratey Yo six

640
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: pick you up, or you can get a black escalade,

641
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: and neither of those is really gonna cost you difference

642
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: when you're doing the ship, you're supposed to do the word.

643
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: You feel me? So, nick I just already see it

644
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: because this was a good ass fucking brother. Them niggas

645
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: don't be having that thing, and so we're flooded with

646
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: a bunch of amateurs who don't have that thing, who

647
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: are trying to have that thing.

648
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: But see, that's what honestly, I want when it comes up,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to art. When it comes to art,

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Speaker 1: it's like I need people around me that's gonna make me,

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Speaker 1: make me wanting to give a fuck.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not impressed with.

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Speaker 3: Nothing, nigga. That's what I like.

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Speaker 1: It's no more because it's like, yes, like the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years and this ain't the shit on nobody movie

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Speaker 1: I can name baby two movies I'd be like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have did that. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: ain't no movies made me give a fuck by being

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Speaker 1: it ain't nothing.

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Speaker 3: Like no one's crazy though, because we have representations like

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Speaker 3: Charlemagne is a really great representation of a nigga who's

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Speaker 3: been a nigga but at it except like profess like

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Speaker 3: no matter what level he has to do, and he

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Speaker 3: remains in Charlemagne, and that'd be our biggest thing. We

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Speaker 3: were like, nigga, want that shit get there, come it becomes.

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Speaker 3: But like she's saying, if niggas like me and you

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Speaker 3: decided to do it, nigga is a home run because

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Speaker 3: we don't have to do nothing but be us. Everybody

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Speaker 3: else gotta get the lives and they dance and they

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Speaker 3: gotta do all the extra shit. But we don't have

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Speaker 3: to do nothing but be us.

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Speaker 1: But you know what's so hard about it? You know,

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Speaker 1: you know it's so hard about it when it's really you,

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Speaker 1: you take it for granted. I'd be taking it for

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Speaker 1: granted sometimes because it comes so second nature.

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Speaker 3: Right, and you know I'll be battling with that because

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Speaker 3: I'll be like some days I be upset that everybody thinks,

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Speaker 3: knows and feels like I'm the nigga that I.

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Speaker 5: Am nigga that ship some rich like wrong with these niggas.

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Speaker 3: Fuck wrong with these niggas.

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Speaker 1: So now I gotta come out there and fuck with

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Speaker 1: y'all for real, man, I gotta come out there with

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Speaker 1: y'all for real, for real.

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Speaker 3: Please don't please do I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: hold you no more, no, no longer. But nigga, just

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Speaker 3: this was great. I feel like we both got information

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Speaker 3: we needed to hear from each other. I'm so bad.

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Speaker 3: Come on, still sharp and still.

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Speaker 2: That's the same ship, nigga.

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Speaker 3: Sa, Hey, this was dope as fun. Man, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: No, but I appreciate you too. Man. But like I say, man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you checking in man, Vick, y'all tu and

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Speaker 1: that next time the Black Effect Man, and I'm out

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Speaker 1: this bitch. Thanks for listen to another episode of Conversation

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Speaker 1: with Me, Little Duval.

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Speaker 2: We got this bitch.

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Speaker 1: production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and our executive

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Speaker 1: producer is Dolly Bishop and produced by Aaron A Keen

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