1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080
Speaker 1: The opening game, everybody's chopping at the bit and I'm

2
00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,680
Speaker 1: talking about I'm sure there are guys like O'Dell's chopping

3
00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,480
Speaker 1: at I'm sure Kwon Barkley's chopping at the big chopping.

4
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,960
Speaker 1: Whoa slow down, guys. You know it's it's sixty minutes

5
00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,759
Speaker 1: of football. We ain't winning it in the first two

6
00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,600
Speaker 1: minutes of the game. No, And that's what you always

7
00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,079
Speaker 1: talk about. Don't peak too early in the week. You know,

8
00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,640
Speaker 1: it's a gradual progress. You know, today you're installing first

9
00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,120
Speaker 1: and second down, inside run, all those aspects to it.

10
00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Then tomorrow on a Thursday, you're going through blitz period,

11
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,280
Speaker 1: You're going through blitz packages, you're going through third down,

12
00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,320
Speaker 1: you're going through two minutes. So each and every day

13
00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,840
Speaker 1: has a vital key and a component that is gonna

14
00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,360
Speaker 1: come to Sunday. You can't move from today and go

15
00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,239
Speaker 1: to the game on Sunday and expect to get the results.

16
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,640
Speaker 1: Each and every day, each and every rep, each and

17
00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,080
Speaker 1: every time that you watch film together as a group

18
00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,760
Speaker 1: or individually, you have to capitalize and being able to

19
00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,480
Speaker 1: pick up the tendencies that are not only your book

20
00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,560
Speaker 1: but what you see because when you're out there on

21
00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,360
Speaker 1: the field, especially week one, that split second that you

22
00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,560
Speaker 1: have to think instead of reacting. That split seconds too

23
00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,120
Speaker 1: too long. It's already over and it's already past you.

24
00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,399
Speaker 1: So that's the one thing that you always focusing on,

25
00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,000
Speaker 1: especially your first week going in, hammer out all the

26
00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,840
Speaker 1: technique and fundamental issues that you needed to during training camp, preseason.

27
00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,200
Speaker 1: This week, make sure you know your playbook out cold,

28
00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,319
Speaker 1: make sure you know the defensive personnel, make sure you

29
00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,560
Speaker 1: know the adjustments that you're gonna make in game, and

30
00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,080
Speaker 1: get prepared for those so that when you go into

31
00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,320
Speaker 1: this game you can play relaxed free football and not

32
00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,200
Speaker 1: sit there and think if something bad happens, oh I

33
00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,720
Speaker 1: didn't catch that when I watched film. Those excuses are

34
00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,959
Speaker 1: not out there anymore. When you start the regular season

35
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,240
Speaker 1: at two oh one, five one, three, we're gonna get

36
00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,560
Speaker 1: to the calls at the moment. I just want to

37
00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,880
Speaker 1: bring out one important thing, especially because David is a

38
00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,800
Speaker 1: former terrific offensive lineman offensive line. We just mentioned three.

39
00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,960
Speaker 1: He's chomping at the bit. We mentioned Sequon, we mentioned O'Dell,

40
00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,920
Speaker 1: we mentioned Eli. The coaches said it, and you know,

41
00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,480
Speaker 1: I still believe it. You know, I know I was

42
00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,200
Speaker 1: looking at those guys in the locker room today and

43
00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 1: they're all big. It's how well this team is going

44
00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,520
Speaker 1: to do is going to be dicta dictated by how

45
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,920
Speaker 1: well the offensive line is going to do. I was

46
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,080
Speaker 1: talking about it with Lance yesterday. I mean it is.

47
00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,000
Speaker 1: And that includes Eric Flowers because he's now on the

48
00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,280
Speaker 1: other side. This is a top to bottom or across

49
00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,240
Speaker 1: the board line, up and down every which way. It

50
00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,799
Speaker 1: is brand new. How well, listen, Dave. I know it's

51
00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,480
Speaker 1: been practiced, I know it's been preseason, I know it's

52
00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,959
Speaker 1: been all through camp. But how long? How much? How

53
00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,200
Speaker 1: long will it take for this offensive line to really

54
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,760
Speaker 1: jell where you know, when I say jail, jail to

55
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 1: the point that it can start paying dividends right off

56
00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,040
Speaker 1: the bat. And that's a question I've been getting a

57
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of lately, obviously with what's taking place right now

58
00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,120
Speaker 1: with the New York Giants offensive line. And I think

59
00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,560
Speaker 1: when you sit there and you try to put a

60
00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,919
Speaker 1: timetable on it, it's very difficult. It's tough to sit

61
00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,680
Speaker 1: here and say, oh, well, week four, we got it.

62
00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Because each group is different. I think the advantage that

63
00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,480
Speaker 1: this group had together is that they've been able to

64
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,800
Speaker 1: implement themselves into this offense at the same time. Figure,

65
00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,120
Speaker 1: everybody's learning the system at the new time. Everybody's learning

66
00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,400
Speaker 1: it at the same time. And then now when you

67
00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,840
Speaker 1: have those pieces next to you, it's not like you

68
00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,040
Speaker 1: go back to last season while we're running this and that.

69
00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,680
Speaker 1: Now you're running a completely different offense where you can

70
00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,640
Speaker 1: really hone in and mesh on whether it's the double

71
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,000
Speaker 1: teams in the run game, whether it's the zone scheme,

72
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,960
Speaker 1: whether it's sliding your protections. The fact that they've been

73
00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,760
Speaker 1: all learning together and been able to play and stay

74
00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,680
Speaker 1: healthy together is a huge component of it. And one

75
00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,600
Speaker 1: of the biggest things that will help with the productivity

76
00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,480
Speaker 1: of the offensive line is the success how well you

77
00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,040
Speaker 1: run the football, the confidence that you build on it,

78
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,840
Speaker 1: and more importantly, when you run those things well, it

79
00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,520
Speaker 1: gives the coaches and the players more confidence to put

80
00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280
Speaker 1: it in your hands. So when it is fourth and one,

81
00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,640
Speaker 1: they don't have a hesitation if it's a time that

82
00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,520
Speaker 1: you can go for it because they believe in you upfront.

83
00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that comes with the group,

84
00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,480
Speaker 1: the confidence that they build together and and making sure

85
00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,240
Speaker 1: when they go out there and they get those reps.

86
00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,479
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be perfect week one. We all know

87
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,279
Speaker 1: that no teams perfect week one. I think that's why

88
00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,560
Speaker 1: you see the scores and the changes and everything that

89
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,679
Speaker 1: takes place. But as long as they continue to build

90
00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,680
Speaker 1: and grow together and they stick together, which this group

91
00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000
Speaker 1: has the entire time, you know that the future is bright.

92
00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are sitting here saying, well,

93
00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,000
Speaker 1: the run game during the preseason one, it wasn't fully there.

94
00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,720
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're not going out there and you're

95
00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,920
Speaker 1: not rolling out your complete offense, and I know it's

96
00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,240
Speaker 1: the running game. While you say inside zone, well, there's

97
00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you do scheme wise with

98
00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,840
Speaker 1: whether it's formations, whether it's motioning with your wide receivers

99
00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 1: to try dictating what they're gonna do on the defensive

100
00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880
Speaker 1: side of the ball. That all helps the run game.

101
00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,560
Speaker 1: And then when you think of the fact that there

102
00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,640
Speaker 1: was no say Kwon Barkley or Odell Beckham Jr. Those

103
00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,040
Speaker 1: are two key pieces that open up everything. So so

104
00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,440
Speaker 1: as as much as you want to stress about that,

105
00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,560
Speaker 1: it is something that we all looked at and it's

106
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,039
Speaker 1: something that they need to improve. But not having those

107
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,320
Speaker 1: two guys out there is a huge impact in the running. Yeah,

108
00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,760
Speaker 1: you have two most you know Eli aside you too,

109
00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,719
Speaker 1: certainly your two most dynamic players. Uh, quite frankly on

110
00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,360
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. But anyway, again, two one, five,

111
00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,919
Speaker 1: one three is the number here on Big Blue Kickoff

112
00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com. What do you say we open

113
00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,640
Speaker 1: up the phone lines right now. Let's go way out

114
00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,800
Speaker 1: to New Mexico and speak with Scott. How you doing, Scott?

115
00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560
Speaker 1: You're on with Russ and Dave. Hey, guys, how are

116
00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,479
Speaker 1: you doing? How are you doing? Buddy good? Uh? Strangely enough,

117
00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,719
Speaker 1: I had two points, and my first point was about

118
00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Uh. And I don't want to be negative,

119
00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,240
Speaker 1: but I was hoping to either of you could Um,

120
00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,400
Speaker 1: I personally think that Giants don't have that much depth

121
00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400
Speaker 1: at the offensive tackle position, and I was hoping that

122
00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,039
Speaker 1: either of you, trying to be fair, that this particular

123
00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,160
Speaker 1: player could explain the rationale having Chad Wheeler as our

124
00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,440
Speaker 1: swing tackle when at least I've seen evanence thus foreign preseason.

125
00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,800
Speaker 1: He's performed poorly, especially in the Patriots game when he

126
00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,640
Speaker 1: wasn't even going up against the first teamers. And I

127
00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,000
Speaker 1: was wondering, am I being too harsh on him? Because

128
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,200
Speaker 1: both of you are privy to seeing him in practice,

129
00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,159
Speaker 1: and I'm very concerned if either of the tackles go

130
00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,720
Speaker 1: down that he's our primary option. So I wanted to

131
00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,960
Speaker 1: get your personal opinions on his progress. Well, I'll also

132
00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,719
Speaker 1: what Bible options exist that turns out he can't cut

133
00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,680
Speaker 1: the musters our backup. Well, I'll defer to the man

134
00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,240
Speaker 1: who won two Super Bowls as being an offensive lineman. Well,

135
00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000
Speaker 1: one of the things that you you know that they

136
00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,680
Speaker 1: were trying to do is they were testing the versatility

137
00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,680
Speaker 1: of all the offensive lineman and training camp. I mean,

138
00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Wheeler that they've moved around and played

139
00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,600
Speaker 1: at different positions. Figured they tried their hand at moving

140
00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,560
Speaker 1: John Jerry out there to see if he could do it,

141
00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,159
Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to compete and hold up a

142
00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,960
Speaker 1: spot where he could be inside and be a bad

143
00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,600
Speaker 1: up at the right tackle position. That didn't work out

144
00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,919
Speaker 1: as well. Figure Wheeler had his opportunity and Flowers played

145
00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,479
Speaker 1: better than him. But when you come to this and

146
00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,480
Speaker 1: when you come to this situation, is Wheeler right now

147
00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,760
Speaker 1: a prominent starter for this offensive line. No, he didn't

148
00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,720
Speaker 1: earn it, and he didn't show it in the way

149
00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,160
Speaker 1: that he played. In regards to his techniques and fundamentals,

150
00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,120
Speaker 1: there is improvement that needs to be made. I agree

151
00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,880
Speaker 1: with you holdheartedly, and it was shown in the preseason.

152
00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,640
Speaker 1: He needs to make sure that he has a better

153
00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,600
Speaker 1: landmark when he's taking his kicks on defensive ends, staying

154
00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,480
Speaker 1: inside out to make sure that he makes him run

155
00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080
Speaker 1: to hoop instead of giving pressure up inside, which at

156
00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,680
Speaker 1: the tech position is is crucial because you can't recover

157
00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,840
Speaker 1: after that. But I think that they love the fact

158
00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,920
Speaker 1: that he can move from left to right. He has

159
00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,720
Speaker 1: that versatility and knock on wood. If something was to

160
00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,840
Speaker 1: happen to Solder, I think that they could possibly flip

161
00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,000
Speaker 1: it back to move Flowers back there before Wheeler. But

162
00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 1: those are all emergency situations. Let's let's just sit here

163
00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,800
Speaker 1: and focus on the season, and let's pray that this

164
00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,880
Speaker 1: offensive line stays healthy and together as a unit, because

165
00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,160
Speaker 1: that's the only way that they're gonna make progress. We've

166
00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,560
Speaker 1: seen last year with all the different offensive line combinations,

167
00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,040
Speaker 1: how much it doesn't only just hurt that group, it

168
00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,200
Speaker 1: hurts the running game, and it hurts the passing game.

169
00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,000
Speaker 1: It hurts everything offensive, you know, Scott, before we were

170
00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,720
Speaker 1: and I your point is well taken, and I think

171
00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,240
Speaker 1: I think David, you know, fair assess has answered it

172
00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 1: pretty well. But before we can worry about who is

173
00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,680
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, do we have a suffice

174
00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,079
Speaker 1: enough backup? We got to make sure that all these

175
00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,600
Speaker 1: starters on the offensive line are jelling. You know, in

176
00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,800
Speaker 1: the first place, we haven't seen that yet. You know,

177
00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,719
Speaker 1: this is a new group and one last time to

178
00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,920
Speaker 1: go along with that. And don't think that the New

179
00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,520
Speaker 1: York Giants weren't looking at what was on the waiver

180
00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,480
Speaker 1: wire in regards to the tackle position in ways to

181
00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,280
Speaker 1: upgrade not only the offensive line but this football team.

182
00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,679
Speaker 1: They obviously, with the people that were available, they didn't

183
00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,000
Speaker 1: feel that one of them were fit to fit into

184
00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,880
Speaker 1: the New York Giants offensive line. Scott, thanks very much

185
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,800
Speaker 1: to call buddy. You know, let's let's be frank. I mean,

186
00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:09,320
Speaker 1: after the initial fifty three was announced, they brought in

187
00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,160
Speaker 1: six new players. And then were you around here yesterday,

188
00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,200
Speaker 1: because yesterday you had twenty guys. Here was nineteen or

189
00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,800
Speaker 1: twenty guys. So obviously, you know, Sherman and Gettleman. No

190
00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240
Speaker 1: one stands in pat But one thing that I'm gonna

191
00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,080
Speaker 1: say to go along with that is that takes place

192
00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,840
Speaker 1: every Tuesday during the regular season. It's something that you

193
00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,400
Speaker 1: don't usually see, but every Tuesday during the NFL day off,

194
00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,760
Speaker 1: there at least twenty to twenty two guys at all

195
00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,920
Speaker 1: different positions that are veterans or we're free agents that

196
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,120
Speaker 1: didn't get picked up by a team, that are all

197
00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,400
Speaker 1: continuing to get worked out by NFL teams and like

198
00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,200
Speaker 1: yesterday with the Giants, to figure out ways if there's

199
00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,560
Speaker 1: still a piece in the puzzle that they can add

200
00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,000
Speaker 1: to it. And one of the things that a lot

201
00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,440
Speaker 1: of teams, especially at the offensive line position, you know,

202
00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go out and you're gonna sign a

203
00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,680
Speaker 1: veteran to be a swing tackle, you don't want to

204
00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,600
Speaker 1: sign him week one because if you sign a vested

205
00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,840
Speaker 1: veteran week one, what do you have to do. You

206
00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 1: have to guarantee his salary for the entire seventeen weeks.

207
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,439
Speaker 1: If you sign that vested veteran week two and he's

208
00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,080
Speaker 1: not on your opening day roster, it's week to week.

209
00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,719
Speaker 1: It's not a guaranteed salary. So that way, you can

210
00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,560
Speaker 1: see if this person fills in that void if necessary,

211
00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,200
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't, they're still interchangeable and you're not

212
00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,600
Speaker 1: linked into that money with the one thing that I

213
00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400
Speaker 1: like what Pat Sherman always seems to say when people

214
00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,800
Speaker 1: ask about you know this guy and you know this

215
00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,200
Speaker 1: draft pick, and you know the second round, the first

216
00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,760
Speaker 1: round of third, well, obviously you know Saquon Barkley. Saquon

217
00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,439
Speaker 1: Barkley is you know, the second pick overall. Obviously he's

218
00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,560
Speaker 1: going to be playing. But Sherman always likes to say,

219
00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,319
Speaker 1: and it's kind of similar to what Parcels used to say,

220
00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,640
Speaker 1: best guys play, and Sherman says, once they here, once

221
00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,440
Speaker 1: the fifty three is here, it doesn't matter where they

222
00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,200
Speaker 1: would pick, where they were signed, what free agency, or

223
00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,040
Speaker 1: what round they would an. They're all giants. And that's

224
00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,040
Speaker 1: something that people get caught up. Well, there's seven wide receivers.

225
00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm just throw numbers out there. Well, there's only this amount.

226
00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,920
Speaker 1: If you feel like you've built your team the best

227
00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,480
Speaker 1: possible way with the best fifty three, doesn't matter truly

228
00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,400
Speaker 1: how many people you have at that position. Granted, you

229
00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,880
Speaker 1: do need depths at certain spots. You need people that

230
00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,680
Speaker 1: are versatile, that can move around, to be interchangeable. But

231
00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,240
Speaker 1: there's never a position that you feel like you're locked in.

232
00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,920
Speaker 1: I need to have this many people at this spot

233
00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,079
Speaker 1: because there could be another player in another spot, in

234
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,200
Speaker 1: another position on the field that you can't release because

235
00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800
Speaker 1: you know what he means to this football team. Two

236
00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,520
Speaker 1: oh one nine four, five one three is the number

237
00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,840
Speaker 1: you're watching Russ Salzburg and Mr David Deal here on

238
00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff on Giants dot Com. Let's go to Jackson,

239
00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560
Speaker 1: New Jersey and speak with Timothy. Hello, Tim, how are

240
00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:57,400
Speaker 1: my friend? How are you? I got for you the

241
00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,880
Speaker 1: last today but for the Giant holes like the final

242
00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,120
Speaker 1: moves but signing Kenny Britt to a full year contract

243
00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:14,280
Speaker 1: and Wavedte Dion say say it out again, Tim, Uh.

244
00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,439
Speaker 1: Today the Giants will make the final lockter moves before

245
00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,600
Speaker 1: their season opening against the Jaguars at home. The signs

246
00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,240
Speaker 1: Kenny Britt to a full year contract and waved Dante Dion.

247
00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,520
Speaker 1: Is that your expertise in the prediction is that you

248
00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,480
Speaker 1: have a crystal ball? Tim? Yeah, okay, buddy, I appreciate

249
00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,000
Speaker 1: the call, Thank you, thanks very much. I don't you

250
00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,839
Speaker 1: know what. I was just throwing it out there being

251
00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,120
Speaker 1: a fan. I love it? Why not? You know, I

252
00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,679
Speaker 1: don't know if anything does happen that way. Timothy could

253
00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,000
Speaker 1: be the person who said I came out broke that news.

254
00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,760
Speaker 1: There you go, I'm the one who came up with it.

255
00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,959
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing that you think about Kenny Britt.

256
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,719
Speaker 1: Obviously he had his opportunity in New England as a

257
00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,400
Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver. But you know, obviously the injuries led

258
00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,560
Speaker 1: up to his downfall there. He wasn't able to catch

259
00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,800
Speaker 1: up with everything. And you know, when you truly think

260
00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,360
Speaker 1: about Kenny Britt, the ups and downs that he's had

261
00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,520
Speaker 1: throughout his career, whether it's through injuries, whether it's just

262
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,040
Speaker 1: through plays and drops. At this point right now for

263
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,800
Speaker 1: the New York Giants football team, I don't think that

264
00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,920
Speaker 1: he would be a need nor necessary for this roster

265
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,439
Speaker 1: moving forward. In granted, it's always great to think, oh,

266
00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,040
Speaker 1: a big body, veteran receiver who can do that, but

267
00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,320
Speaker 1: what are the odds of that truly working out for you?

268
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,680
Speaker 1: In the past, and the way that we've seen throughout

269
00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,440
Speaker 1: the history of this game, it doesn't work out as

270
00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,280
Speaker 1: well as you think of it. You know, Dave, you

271
00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,920
Speaker 1: just gave me an idea for a good book, The

272
00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,520
Speaker 1: ups and Downs of professional Athletes. Guy, No, I'm I'm

273
00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,319
Speaker 1: half Dungan cheek but half serious. You know, so many

274
00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,120
Speaker 1: athletes think about it, so many athletes, guys that you

275
00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,600
Speaker 1: probably playing with, you know, early on in your career,

276
00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,600
Speaker 1: Guys who were right there, who who who had all

277
00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,760
Speaker 1: the makings of stardom, never got to it because of

278
00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640
Speaker 1: a dreams or this and that. You know. Listen, Kenny

279
00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,079
Speaker 1: Brett is an example Who've seen some good times. But yeah,

280
00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,200
Speaker 1: it just it comes and goes in a finger snap,

281
00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,559
Speaker 1: especially when you're at a skilled position, when you need

282
00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,719
Speaker 1: to rely on your your athleticism, your quick twitch, your

283
00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,640
Speaker 1: explosive to beat people over the top and use that

284
00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,040
Speaker 1: big body. Because when you think of Kenny Britt, it's

285
00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,480
Speaker 1: not like he was a precise route runner. You just

286
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,640
Speaker 1: think of him outsizing people and winning those All right,

287
00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,680
Speaker 1: let's go more nearby. Let's go to Queens and speak

288
00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,360
Speaker 1: with Duke Duke. How wi you my friend? Guys? Thank

289
00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,440
Speaker 1: you for taking my call. Um, I'm glad I got

290
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,520
Speaker 1: to speak with Deal today and your each but Momy

291
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,360
Speaker 1: and Deal, yo, you helped us out so much. And

292
00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,680
Speaker 1: I really really want to thank you because just the

293
00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,000
Speaker 1: first time I'm going to talk to you. Same. Thanks.

294
00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man. What can we do for you, buddy? Yeah,

295
00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,720
Speaker 1: I got two questions, and before you respond to the

296
00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,560
Speaker 1: first one, let me just ask both and I'll just

297
00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,560
Speaker 1: take it off the heere. My first one is the

298
00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,560
Speaker 1: offensive line questions since you're here today. Um, you know

299
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,840
Speaker 1: Pat Sherman when he was talking about quarterbacks, he said

300
00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,640
Speaker 1: he has certain things that he looks at. Uh and

301
00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,040
Speaker 1: arm strength isn't one of the top things. So for

302
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,080
Speaker 1: you personally as alignment, you know you have things that

303
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,400
Speaker 1: alignment needs like mentality, uh, strength, footwork. I really would

304
00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,480
Speaker 1: love your opinion on like the top two things that

305
00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,320
Speaker 1: you personally think alignment should have being a two time

306
00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. And my second and my and my

307
00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:33,920
Speaker 1: second question is I'm join a blank. Um quarterbacks quarterbacks?

308
00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,640
Speaker 1: Uh No, it wasn't. It wasn't about the quarterbacks. UM.

309
00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,720
Speaker 1: I will answer that and thank you guys to take

310
00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,120
Speaker 1: them a call us about the second one. All right, Duke,

311
00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,640
Speaker 1: thank you for call. I appreciate it, my friend. Go ahead.

312
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,680
Speaker 1: When in regards to the characteristics that I look for

313
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,360
Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman when I'm looking coming out of

314
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,160
Speaker 1: the draft. You know, everybody's gonna look at numbers, measurables,

315
00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,360
Speaker 1: how high, how tall, arm length, all those certain specs

316
00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,239
Speaker 1: of it. But when you really look and you define

317
00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,920
Speaker 1: what makes a great offensive lineman compared to an average

318
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,400
Speaker 1: one is trust your technique. I know it sounds very simple,

319
00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,920
Speaker 1: and we'll trust your technique. You do it a million times.

320
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,640
Speaker 1: But to do something in an offensive line, you have

321
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,240
Speaker 1: to be completely consistent, play and play out with the

322
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,320
Speaker 1: footwork that you take in the sets that you take

323
00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400
Speaker 1: in the passing game. You know, I remember watching film

324
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,760
Speaker 1: early on when I was a young player of Anthony Monos.

325
00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,760
Speaker 1: You would watch Anthony Monos take either a five or three,

326
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,320
Speaker 1: five or or seven step drop kick, and if you

327
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,040
Speaker 1: put his his feet in a bucket of paint, it

328
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,280
Speaker 1: would look identical each and every time. And when you

329
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 1: talk about that, you think about being on the road

330
00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,920
Speaker 1: third and eleven, that defensive end may get a split

331
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,960
Speaker 1: second half step of ahead of you. Are you gonna

332
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,200
Speaker 1: trust your technique enough to continue to kick back, keeping

333
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,600
Speaker 1: your shoulders square and doing what you're fundamentally taught to

334
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,640
Speaker 1: do or are you gonna kick open up bail fearing

335
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,439
Speaker 1: that you're not going to get the job done and

336
00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,760
Speaker 1: try to run them by when you're playing right into

337
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,640
Speaker 1: his strength. Now you open things up from on the edge,

338
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,399
Speaker 1: he's got a clear path to the quarterback now, So

339
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,040
Speaker 1: trust in your technique. I would say number one and

340
00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,919
Speaker 1: the second one grit. It's not about size, it's not

341
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,760
Speaker 1: about a forty time. It's about a guy who's gotten

342
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,200
Speaker 1: knocked down. But we'll get up and fight through the

343
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,600
Speaker 1: whistle for seventy plus plays and not let that one

344
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,240
Speaker 1: play affect him for the rest of the football game,

345
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,359
Speaker 1: because it's like Quicksand if you let a play happen,

346
00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,680
Speaker 1: whether it's a tackle for a loss or a sack

347
00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,000
Speaker 1: which they're gonna make on the other side of the ball,

348
00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,760
Speaker 1: if you let that one play affect the next fifty,

349
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,199
Speaker 1: it's like quicksand it's just gonna keep pulling you in

350
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,040
Speaker 1: and pulling you in, and it's gonna affect your entire game.

351
00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,160
Speaker 1: So those are the two things that I would say

352
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,879
Speaker 1: that you just can't quantify. Look up on the board

353
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,320
Speaker 1: that is numbers. I would say truck the ability for

354
00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,040
Speaker 1: them to have their techniques honed in on and have

355
00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,680
Speaker 1: that toughness. I I think you know you're alluding to, Uh,

356
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 1: let's go. I'll go to the second part, the grit

357
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,960
Speaker 1: and the toughness, before you get to the technique, because

358
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,720
Speaker 1: I really think most fans when but most fans and I

359
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't even say media, when they look at offensive Lineman,

360
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,240
Speaker 1: they're looking at big bulk, as Dave Geedlman likes to say,

361
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,840
Speaker 1: the hob hob Molly's but the grit situation. And you know,

362
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,200
Speaker 1: he reminds me he's not certainly he's not as tall

363
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,760
Speaker 1: as you, but he's he to me, He's got a

364
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:37,520
Speaker 1: very similar personality is Will Hernandez. He's a guy, without question,

365
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 1: he's he's a tough guy. He's I've said this yesterday.

366
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: He's extremely extremely mature. He looks like he looks and

367
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,359
Speaker 1: acts like a man. He belongs like he belongs and

368
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 1: and Dave Gettlman always likes to say, he says it

369
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 1: really on both sides of the ball. He says, to

370
00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 1: play in that position, you gotta have it. He doesn't

371
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 1: mean violent like kill somebody, but you got to have that.

372
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 1: That mean is that violence that you're gonna get after

373
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 1: because that is that's a nasty place to play. It's

374
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 1: a nasty place making a living. Oh no, kidd And

375
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: I actually had a conversation with him during training camp. Well, yeah,

376
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 1: he's been great. I've talked to him many at different times.

377
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I talked to him after he got

378
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 1: into the scuffle with Snacks. We all heard about that

379
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,359
Speaker 1: and tempers get high. You're in there, you're competing in

380
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,679
Speaker 1: the trenches, and I told him the story about my

381
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 1: rookie season, I break into the starting lineup, and no joke,

382
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 1: from the minute that I broke in from week three

383
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 1: of the preseason, but the entire time of training camp,

384
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 1: every other period, it seemed like I was getting into fights,

385
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: Like guys were starting fights with me, Guys were pushing

386
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: me after and next thing, I'm fighting half of the defense.

387
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 1: It's continuing to go. It was like almost like this

388
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 1: is my rookie season. It was like, okay, I didn't

389
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 1: get it an inside run, Okay, next period, blitzer, blitz period.

390
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here it comes here, here, it comes

391
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,479
Speaker 1: to fight. So literally every single time and every single practice,

392
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: there was some type of fight with me with a

393
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: guy on the defense. We get to week one of

394
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 1: the regular season and we get to about period eight

395
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: and I say that to Cornelius and Keith Hamilton's I'm like,

396
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 1: what is it. I'm like, we're in period eight. I'm like,

397
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: you guys aren't fighting, You guys aren't starting anything. They're like, no,

398
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 1: you passed the test. They were testing me to see

399
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: if I would show my toughness and each and every

400
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: time they came after me if i'd fight back the

401
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: minute that they saw that and they respected it and

402
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: I earned a starting jobs like, no more of it.

403
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: You're good. So that was the test, and that test

404
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: also made you a better foot without a doubt, because

405
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: you're bringing out that toughness in you and you're doing

406
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 1: it up against a guy like Keith Hamilton. That's a

407
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 1: guy you don't want to see in a dark and

408
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 1: as a twenty one year old rookie walking into it

409
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 1: and you're fighting these guys, you know, it shows him

410
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: something about your character and that you're a guy that

411
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: no matter what who you're going up against, you're doing

412
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: what's best for this football. You didn't want, you didn't

413
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: want to meet that clearly up room an he plays

414
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: with something else. And that's something with will that he has.

415
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: He has that inner toughness. He's got that confidence, not cocking,

416
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: confidence that he knows that he belongs to on this

417
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: football team and in the NFL. Yeah, not a lot

418
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: of rookies have that. They say that they do, but

419
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: when it comes time to step up, they don't always

420
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: show it. You can, and folks, it's not even just

421
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: in football. I think it's at all walks of life.

422
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: You could run into people who give a false bravado.

423
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, it's not false bravado. And it's exactly Dave

424
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: how you said. He he walks and talks as if

425
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: he belongs He walks and talks as if he's a

426
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: veteran without thinking his you know what, doesn't think. He

427
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: just walks and talks add the rest of the rookies

428
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: and knows it. Yeah, he's a man's man. Let's put

429
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: it that way. All right, What do you say we

430
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: go out to uh up to all? But he right

431
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: now and check in with Bruce, Bruce around with Russ

432
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: and Dave how I am my friend. Hi, guys, I

433
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: gotta say I'm looking forward to the day when nobody

434
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: wants to talk about the offensive I don't know. I

435
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: love talking, come on you, Bruce, but I'm unfortunately that

436
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: day has not come yet. So I have a question.

437
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: I got admit I'm a little surprised and disappointed that

438
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: they got rid of Brent Jones. And uh, I would

439
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: say that I don't think any offensive lineman played better

440
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: than he did last year. Let me just say you're

441
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: saying one thing, Bruce. I love the guy. I think

442
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: he was a terrific kid. He comes. He came from Canada. Uh,

443
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: you know when when you're football is not in Canada,

444
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: it's hockey. He's playing before a handful of people. Dave

445
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: would say this last year. We loved him. He was

446
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: not just on the offensive line. I think he was

447
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: one of the few bright spots for the entire Giants

448
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: team last year. But that said, they moved him, and

449
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: I also think they did him a favor. They moved

450
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: him to a place where he's gonna play and he's

451
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: got a chance to be part of something good because

452
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: they were a good football team. But also they got

453
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: something in return, and then they got a seventh round pick.

454
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: My wife said, do you think maybe he asked for

455
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: a trade? And I said, that's pretty good. I said,

456
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: I never thought of that. But I must say that

457
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: with all these new people at positions on the line,

458
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want a little continuity, especially at the center position.

459
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: He's the quarterback of the line. Why not have veteran

460
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: presidents there. I don't think all Apeo has much experience.

461
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: He's not clearly better. And let's face it, Minnesota is

462
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: bringing them in to be their starting center, so I

463
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: don't understand, and we bring in another center to is

464
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: a backup. So if if, if he's good enough to

465
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: start for Minnesota, I can't believe he's not good enough

466
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: to be at least a backup center. And he's got

467
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: and he's got experience at both guard and center. So

468
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: it's Hawapeo. So I don't understand getting rid of him

469
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: for a seventh round pick when the line is in

470
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: a state of chaos right now until approve it otherwise.

471
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if chaos is a fair word. Not

472
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: at all. This isn't chaos. But I'm gonna ask you

473
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: a question, Bruce. You said you you hope that there

474
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: would be a time that we would not be sitting

475
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: here talking about offensive line, and you talked about Brett Jones,

476
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: and you said you were hoping for some continuity on

477
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: the offensive line. The continuity in the last two seasons

478
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: on the offensive line has not worked. In regards to

479
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: John hall Appeal, I can sincerely sit here and say

480
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: he is probably one of the most improved players on

481
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball throughout o t A's minicamping,

482
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: throughout training camp, his fundamentals, his technique, his ownership of

483
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: the offense and making calls, getting everybody lined up, his hands,

484
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: his placement of him, his ability to move people at

485
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: that point of attack at the center position. He has

486
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: a bigger size and a bigger frame than Brett Jones,

487
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: which was a great competition, But in regards to that,

488
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: Halloppeo won that competition clear back ups. You think about

489
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: John Greco, he can play three positions. He can play

490
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: center in both guards. I know that you said Brett

491
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: Jones can fill in at those positions, but his natural

492
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: position is a center position. And when you think about

493
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: the fact that he wasn't going to start in Hallapeo

494
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: won the job outright. You have Greco that can fill

495
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: in at those three spots, center, guard and guard as

496
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: a backup. You think about the fact that you're able

497
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: to trade him, get money back, and get a seventh

498
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: round pick for him. That's gonna be huge down the

499
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: road because people always, well, it's only a seventh round pick.

500
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: That's one way to entice a possible free agent that

501
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: every NFL team is gonna be looking for. And now

502
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: you have an extra seventh round pick to get that

503
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: guy instead of trying to go out there and risk

504
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: it with other NFL teams going after that same player.

505
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for to call Bruce. I I think I think

506
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Dave explained that very well. I also think this, and

507
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: maybe you want to call it naive on my part,

508
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: I also think that they when I say they, I

509
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: think Gettleman and Sherman annually really liked uh Brett Jones.

510
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean liked them not just as a person, but

511
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: as a player. I also think they did him a

512
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: favor because I think in the end they made the

513
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: decision just what you just said, Halapio, Halapio, how whatever

514
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: you want to call him, that that John was one

515
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: of the most improved guys. And I believe while they

516
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: liked Brett Jones, they looked at the situation where you

517
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: just said with Greco and they did. They took care

518
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: of Brett Jones. They sent them to a place where

519
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: he's going to have the opportunity. As as Bruce just

520
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: said to start, I think I think that they did

521
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: the right thing by Brett Jones. And when it happened,

522
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: you remember what coach Shermer said, he goes, I'm not

523
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: one to say that a trade has to go a

524
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: certain way. It was a win win for both parties

525
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: in this because you figured the Giants get the money

526
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: back for the salary, then you get another draft pick.

527
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Yet you were able to trade Brett Jones, a player

528
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: that you respect and admire for the way that he

529
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: handled himself and carried himself to put him in a

530
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: position to start for another football team. That's a win

531
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: win on both sides of it. And what impressed me

532
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: last year, And I took notice when you said this

533
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: when impressed me last year because you were very impressed

534
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: with Brett Jones. And now Brett Jones was is a

535
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: shorter offensive lineman, a shorter center. And listen, that's coming

536
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: from a big man. Okay, that's coming from you who's tall.

537
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: And but you commented that his his lack of height

538
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: was not such a big disadvantage because it gave him

539
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: certain leverage. Oh yeah, that you know not everybody has. Well,

540
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: the fact that he has built that low and has

541
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: the leg strength to move somebody out of the hole.

542
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: It's actually an advantage for him at the center position

543
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: because he can get underneath those nose tackles. Tore six

544
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: ft six one six too, that that big bulk and

545
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: those big legs that you know, a guy who's six

546
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: five six six can move him. But at the snap,

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be something where he's gonna possibly win

548
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: that instant leverage. I'll tell you what. They did him

549
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: a favorite. They moved him to Minnesota. He's closer to

550
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: Midwestern Canada, you know, his home. So I mean, for

551
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: for you're right, that's a win win situation for all

552
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: parties concerned. Let's go up to Portland, Maine and speak

553
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: with Charlie. Charlie. Charlie, Charlie, how are you my friend? Hey, Russ,

554
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Hi? David? Hey good? Hey? I

555
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: don't I got some issues in the sense of why

556
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: do why do we have a blind spot on the

557
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: offensive tackle situation? I mean, what you just put out,

558
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: David about technique and toughness doesn't seem to apply. It

559
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: seems to apply to one of our three tackles. And

560
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we can go in to the

561
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: season with only three tackles, two of them that really

562
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: haven't played very well at all. And we've got like

563
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: three centers or four centers on the team. We got fully,

564
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: we've got helpio, we have uh like you said at

565
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Greco can play center. We got Evan Brown. I mean,

566
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: for God's sake, bring in a veteran tackle. Put Brown

567
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: on the practice squard if he makes it through of waivers,

568
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: and let's have another tackle in case we need that

569
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: swing tackle or of flowers you know, ends up being

570
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: a matador this Sunday against jack Jacksonville. Um, so I

571
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: don't get it. I mean, are they waiting because they

572
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: don't want to pay a salary guarantee as salaries? So

573
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: they're waiting a week until they don't have to do that.

574
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: And please don't tell me there's not guys out there.

575
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: There are, there's as Powers, there's Pastur, there's in my

576
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: favorite Guy with you. Guys will all fake but it's

577
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: will beat. He's sillibilla. Oh come, on, come on you Charlie.

578
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Thanks Charlie, thank you for the call. But Charlie, Charlie relax,

579
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: and Charlie relax, Charlie relax. Okay, no one, no one's

580
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: saying goodbye. But like you're gonna come up with Will Needy,

581
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean, really, hey, I came up with two other guys. First,

582
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: you talk about them to me? Okay, the deal? You

583
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: know those guys? You tell me they are right now?

584
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Of course I know offensive lineman in the NFL. Charlie, Yes,

585
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: I do know who they are. And like I was saying,

586
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: if you listened earlier, we went through this question before that,

587
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: you don't think that they had their eyes or were

588
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: looking at somebody possibly to replace Wheeler or to be

589
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: that second back up to go and be the swing tackle.

590
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Then where is he they bringing everybody else in? Did?

591
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Did they find somebody that they felt that was valuable

592
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: enough to do it? No, because if they did, they

593
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: would have made that move. And once again, to go

594
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: back to it, this fifty three man roster for the

595
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: current time is set, but that doesn't guarantee anything. It

596
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee any of those spots. So who's to say

597
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: that it won't happen after this week? Are those that

598
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: third offensive lineman? Are there other offensive lines in the

599
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: NFL that need offensive tackles? Okay, so if those guys

600
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: needed those anything, Charlie, you're arguing with an offensive lineman. Please, buddy, Charlie,

601
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: if you thought those offensive linemen were good enough to

602
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: be on another roster, wouldn't they have been picked up

603
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: by now? You always say that, ar Okay, you're talking

604
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: to David deal for crying out liston and we went

605
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: through this earlier in the show. Believe me, there are

606
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: technique and fundamental things that he needs to improve on

607
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: that we're glaring in the preseason. We said that earlier.

608
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: But if you sit here and think that the Giants

609
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't approach or take a look at offensive lineman or

610
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: offensive tackles through the waiver wire, what veterans were out

611
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: there going into Week one, you're crazy to say that.

612
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: You know that they looked at every single position and

613
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: every single spot, and everybody went through the waiver wire.

614
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: And at this current time, they don't believe that somebody

615
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: can come in and do a better job then them.

616
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: It's that plain and simple. You may agree with it,

617
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: you may disagree with it, but it's not our decision

618
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: to make. We're not the coaches out there calling the

619
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: plays and see what he's doing. They are. We're not

620
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the general manager, Dave Gentleman is. So if there's something

621
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: that needs to be replaced or changed, you know that

622
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: they'll do it. But at this time, in this state

623
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: of the NFL and where NFL teams are in their rosters,

624
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: if those two offensive tackles aren't good enough to be

625
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: on other teams, then how come they're not good enough

626
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: to be here on another time? You know? You know what, Dave?

627
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: You touched on something that is so true. And it's

628
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: not just in football, it's in all sports. When people say, well,

629
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: how come they don't get this guy? And how come

630
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: they don't get that guy? And you know what the

631
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: answer Javis stopped to think, while they haven't, why haven't

632
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: they been scooped up by all those other teams out there?

633
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: What is wrong? What the issue? I just find it

634
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: a little funny. I mean, God, bless everybody. We're all

635
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: excited about a new season, but you talk you haven't

636
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: gotten the game one yet, and and you you see gettlemen.

637
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean the discussion last week. You know from from

638
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: with Davi's Webb and everything else. The talent is all

639
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: being changed, the persionnel is all being changed. I mean, hello,

640
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: from the opening press conference between Dave Cutaman and Pat

641
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: Shermore when they took over as a gym and the

642
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: head coach. What was the thing that they said they

643
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: needed to address? The offensive line? Is it perfect just yet? No?

644
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Are they as still continuing to make it that way?

645
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: You know? I mean David Deal is is available. I

646
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: look how good shape he's not available? I'm good? No,

647
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: but really, oh yeah, And that's the thing, Like, believe me,

648
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: anybody can call and I'll talk football. But if you're

649
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: arguing offensive lineman with me, come on. I mean, we

650
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: sat here last year with David, with with Paul, We

651
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: sat here last year fielding calls after calls after calls,

652
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: after calls, ad nausea about the offensive line. They went

653
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: ahead and completely brought in a new offensive line. It's

654
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: it's all new because you've got flowers on the other side,

655
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: and you're are going, I mean, what what do you want.

656
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Let's bring in five all pros, automatically, five Anthony moonios.

657
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Let's go club. Everybody would love that you know, just

658
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not realistic. Two oh one four five

659
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: one three is the number. It's Big Blue kick Off

660
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: Here on Giants dot Com. We also want to remind

661
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: you that Big Blue Kickoff five is presented to you

662
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: by Coors Light. Download folks the cores Light Rewards app

663
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: to win yourself Amazing Giants prizes throughout this two thousand

664
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: and eighteen season. Again to a one nine three nine

665
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: four five one three is the number to whether it

666
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: is hashtag Giants Chat. Let's go to Manhattan. He's Conrad

667
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: has been patient holding on. Thanks for being patient, Conrad.

668
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: How you doing today? Hey, no need to think it's

669
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: been great, doing a great job. David. You know one

670
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: of the things that I don't understand with some of

671
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: the fans, like Charlie did just calling arguing for David

672
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: about the Lineman. I think we've got to kind of

673
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: get away from the old mentality of how we view

674
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: things as Giant fans. And the reason why I say

675
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: that is the new regime that we have. They operate

676
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: completely different and they do things differently. I I love

677
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: the move that they did as far as Davis's webb

678
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: because them not that David was a bad player, not

679
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: that he didn't work hard, but I think that Loletta

680
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: is a better, more accurate passor than David's Webb And

681
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: watching that, I was really amazed at at the fact

682
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: that they cut him because the old regime wouldn't know

683
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: a Reese stuck around with some guys that you could

684
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: see that all they have was potential, but never met

685
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: those potentials and you know, they never really develop an

686
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: accomplished you know, certain things, and so I think that

687
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: came to to burn them at times and burn the team.

688
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: But when you look this did this coaching staff, and

689
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: you know, you see that they let Davis Webb go,

690
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: somebody that you know, fans were talking about and you know,

691
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: we wanted to see what, you know, what skills set

692
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: that he had, but we you know, they I trust

693
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: him because they pulled the trigger on the hard decision

694
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: was for fans for nothing past coaches could have been

695
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: like an emotional tie. So the fact that they let

696
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: him go and they they're gonna develop Kyle Letter, I

697
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: think it's a great thing. I've said it from the

698
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: time they drafted him. I thought that they did a

699
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: great job with the draft going with St. Juan and

700
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: then going picking up Kyla let us. Well, I really

701
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: am pompous. Well, you know what, Comrade, I see where

702
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: you're going. I'm gonna disagree, and I want to hear

703
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: what David as. I'm gonna disagree to a point. I think. Listen,

704
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: Kylo Letta is here, uh, when you talk about developing him,

705
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: and they clearly said, you know, Coach Sherman has said

706
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: they have confidence in him. But understand this because Davis

707
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: Webb was cut and Kyle Loletta is here, and it

708
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: wasn't the fans. A lot of it was the media.

709
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: Davis Webb, you know, was viewed and you used to

710
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: read about it as the heir apparent, the heir apparent

711
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: to what he was viewed as going to be the

712
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: backup to Eli Manning. And quite frankly, that is the

713
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: same situation for Kyle Loletta. It remains to be seen

714
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: how he might progress if he eventually might be the

715
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: air apparent, but right now there is no air apparent.

716
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Conrad to me, David, he is clearly the situation and

717
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: and Coach Sherman said it throughout camp. There is Eli

718
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Manning and there is no depth chart behind Eli Manning,

719
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: and I do agree with you. But but I also

720
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: heard of interview the other day when the coach himself

721
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: said that, you know, there is actually a plan, you know,

722
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: I think I'll reported that Accent was a succession plan

723
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: in place, and he said, yeah, we do have one.

724
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: But he didn't go. He said, that's not what you think.

725
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: They have the kid there, they could develop him, they

726
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: could work with him, and you know, when the time

727
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: come to and I hope that time never coming, I

728
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: know it will to switch over to somebody new other

729
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: than you know, than Eli. I think this kid is

730
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, I think he's gonna be there,

731
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: ready to go. I mean, he won the m v

732
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: P and the Senior Bowl, right against all the top

733
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: draft picks that went ahead of him and against all

734
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, and this kid came and he really showed

735
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: something coming from the college that he was coming from.

736
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I love this kid, I really I listen.

737
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: I hope you're right, Conrad, and thank you for the call.

738
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: You can be the president of the uh kylo let

739
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: A fan club. And it wasn't and it wasn't just

740
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: what he did in the game. I think the Senior

741
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Bowl is more about how you handle yourself and you

742
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: practice day in and day out, and that's really where

743
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: coming out of Richmond opened up a lot of coaches

744
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: eyes about who he is and and and what type

745
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: of player he can be in the potential that absolutely

746
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: and when you you see a young player like that,

747
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: where we're talking about the ability to move the pocket,

748
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: run nakeds, rung bootlegs, change the momentum, make sure that

749
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: you're not throwing off of the same spot each and

750
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: every time. That gives an offensive advantage. And when you're

751
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: able to do that and you get a quarterback who's

752
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: on time, in pace and has the confidence and comfortable

753
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: comfortability in a offensive scheme, that's where you start to

754
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: see players make big progress. And that's something that you've

755
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: seen out of Kyle Loletta. Having said that, I know

756
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: from the entire time that he's been here, you know

757
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Alex Tanney has played good football. I know that he

758
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: is not Eli Manning, but I think that he can

759
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: do a serviceable job if necessary, to come in and

760
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: be a game manager. Because what's the one thing that

761
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: you know he's not gonna do. He's not going to

762
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: turn over the football. He's gonna be smart with the

763
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: football and he's gonna make sure he protects it. And

764
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: his number one job is to make sure the offense

765
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: can function the way that it needs to. Let's go

766
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: to Jeff Dave out in Rhode Island. Jeff, how are

767
00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: we doing? You get afternoon, gentlemen? Jeff good today? Doing okay?

768
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: Doing okay? Buddy good, that's good. Looking forward to the

769
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: games Sunday. I've been a Giants fan here and Rode

770
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: Island for fifty years, so I'm ready to get it going.

771
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: I had a couple of questions for you and regard.

772
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: One of them is in regard to O VI. I've

773
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: read that he has a high ankle sprain and a

774
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: just an ankle spring. Uh with either one of you

775
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: know basically what's going on. It sounds more and more

776
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: It hasn't been fully fully released, but it sounded more

777
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: and more like it is a high ankle sprain. And

778
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: if it's more and more like a high ankle sprain,

779
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't expect to see him this week. And quite frankly, uh,

780
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, coach Sherman has been saying he looks like

781
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: he's a quick healer. He's doing much better. But if

782
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: Dave you can, you know, comment on this. But if

783
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: it's a high ankle sprain, we're not going to see

784
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: him this Sunday. And then I'm wondering about the following game,

785
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Week two against the Cowboys. And that's another one that's

786
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, and it's gonna be a time thing

787
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: that we see here, whether it's high low, whatever it is.

788
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: But this defense needs O VI on the field doramatically.

789
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: And let's face it, when you watched him now in

790
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: this new scheme and system, it fits perfectly to his

791
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: strengths as a football player. So now you add that

792
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: in Lorenzo Carter on the other side coming up and

793
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: starting to make some plays and show some flash, you know,

794
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be vital to get him back out

795
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah. But right now, right now, Jeff,

796
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: it's looking like high ankle and high ankle doesn't look good. Yeah,

797
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: that that can take some time to recover from. And

798
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: I just assumed see him sit until he's about rather

799
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: than come back and be half, you know, half himself

800
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: all year. Uh. The other question I had was you

801
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: were talking about free agent signings and guaranteed money and

802
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: not guaranteed money, and so on and so forth. I

803
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: understand the pot about the money not being guaranteed after

804
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: the second if you sign a guy after the second game. Uh.

805
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: The thing I don't get is, for example, we just

806
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: signed a on linebackup from the Saints. I would think

807
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: that he's a vested veteran. Is it his money be

808
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: guaranteed for the rest of the year. Yes, it would, Yes,

809
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: it would, it would. Okay, So I guess we can

810
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: expect him the stick on a roster then yeah, I

811
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: would think, yeah, okay, So that only applies to the

812
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: guaranteed money only, Okay, for any invested veteran, if they're

813
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: on your game day roster week one on fifty three,

814
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: that's what it does. If they're not on that fifty

815
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: three week one and then they're added the following week,

816
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: there is no guarantee to the year. Okay. I see. Okay, guys,

817
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's go Giants. Let's go all right, Jeff, thank you

818
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: for the call, Buddy, call us again, al right, not

819
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: to a one nine three four five one three the

820
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: number here on Big Blue kickoff on Giants dot Com.

821
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: Let's go, uh nearby, enjoy z and speak with Josh. Josh,

822
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: how are you doing, buddy? Hey guys, Hey guyss going,

823
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, first time call it welcome

824
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: things awesome, awesome, guys. I want to talk a little

825
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: bit about our defense. UM. I know Shermer, I'm so

826
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: pumped up for the season and everything that he has

827
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: planned for the Giants. Last week I was listening and

828
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about his ability to kind

829
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: of match what the game plan or the teams that

830
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: we're seeing each week. I wanted to know, uh, specifically

831
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: regard to our division games, do you see the defense

832
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: that Vetchers implemented here, which I love, the aggressive style,

833
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: do you see that game plans um switching or kind

834
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: of shifting a little bit based upon the ability that

835
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks with in our division. Most of them are

836
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: mobile and able to you know, move around that pressure,

837
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: extend the plays, hit their receivers once we know can

838
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: move and Dak Prescott with the great old line and

839
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys UM and Alex Smith's who can kind of

840
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: move a little bit. He's getting up there in age.

841
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: But I wanted to know if you guys see that

842
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: changing at all on the defensive side of the ball.

843
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: Because I know we have a lot of things we're

844
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: doing on the offense which I'm excited about. Well, let

845
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: let me ask you know, save that question. Isn't that

846
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: a situation of of a game to game adjustments you

847
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: make the game plan, And that's something that you know

848
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: when people sit here and think, oh, well, he's a

849
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: three four scheme, there's gonna be times where they're gonna

850
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: be in a four down front, and you're that's one thing. Now,

851
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: it's not just one defensive call. I mean you're versatile

852
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: and everything that you do on first and second down

853
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: because you don't want to give an offense that pre

854
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: snap look of what you're doing defensively. So there's gonna

855
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: be different lineups, whether it's in the three or four,

856
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: whether it's a four or three. All coaches are versatile

857
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: and run all different types of it. But you're correct.

858
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Each week you're gonna run different wrinkles and put different

859
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: things into your game plan based upon who you are

860
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: going up against. It maybe the quarterback and maybe the

861
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: running back, maybe a wide receiver, and try to find

862
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: ways to attack that weakness. You know, when you sit

863
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: here and you think about having a non scrambling quarterback

864
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: versus a scrambling quarterback. Yeah, it puts a lot more

865
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: onus on the backside defensive and to make sure it

866
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: contains and keeps everything inside out and where you may

867
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: have to keep and that stra linebacker in there in

868
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: case he's a spy. You know, it's much different than

869
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: that regard when you're going up against the quarterback who's

870
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: not mobile and they're not worried about that, and you

871
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: feel like you can get after him with your four

872
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: A blitz packets. So you're right, it's different dialed up

873
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: towards what type of quarterback that you're playing, you know,

874
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: based upon his ability to break the pocket and make

875
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: plays with his legs. But yeah, I mean, all defenses

876
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: are versatile in the NFL. Awesome, awesome, thanks man, thanks

877
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: for taking my colle Just want to say I'm super

878
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: pumped up. You're not the only one, pump Josh. Thank

879
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: you for the call. Call us again. All right, buddy,

880
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: all right, you take care. Two five, one three is

881
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: the number. Got about nine minutes to go before we

882
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: call it a day. Just so it's just a reminder,

883
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: if we want to remind everybody that big Blue Kickoff

884
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: live here is presented to you by cores Light. Download

885
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: the cores Light Rewards app to win yourself Amazing Giants

886
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: prizes throughout this two thousand and eighteen season. Look who's

887
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: on the line call from Delaware coach Marvin, our old friend,

888
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: coach Marvin coach, how you doing today, buddy? I'm doing good. Rush.

889
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: How you doing today? I'm doing doing well. How how's

890
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: the off season doing for your coach? It's been doing well.

891
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: I just retired from the Department of Justice and door

892
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: and join it and just enjoying life. Good for you, malt,

893
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: As they say in the hood, what do you guys? Uh? Well,

894
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: I was hearing this guy Charlie, who's a regular caller,

895
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: talking about the offensive line, and he's been on net

896
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: for the last few years. And my thing is very

897
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: difficult to pick up line this. I mean that the

898
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: team already rebuilt the line they have and let's just

899
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: go with what we have. Um, Like you were saying,

900
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: there's guys on the street. There on the street for

901
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: certain reason, they may not even fit what we want

902
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: to do, and that's why they're not being called in

903
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: and to day, you know, today I was saying, a

904
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: good jority of the teams are looking for a good

905
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. They may only be uh five six teams

906
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: that have pretty good pack up linemen. So every team

907
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: pretty much have problems with back up offensive linement. So

908
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, everybody needs to kind of you know, well,

909
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, coach, let me ask you this and a

910
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: last day of the same question. You know, people people

911
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: are worried about, you know, backup lineman. I mean to me,

912
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know, let's started back. Yeah, I think people

913
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: are worried about getting enough good qualities starting offensive lineman

914
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: for your team, and we're arguing about what the hell

915
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: of the giantsen would back up offensive lineman? Think about

916
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: every every discussion last last year through the first four weeks,

917
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the Giants offensive line. It was offensive

918
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: lines across the league because not having the continuity having

919
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: different pieces, one guy going from one place to another

920
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: for free agency, you don't have that time where you

921
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: really have a group solidified for a long period of time,

922
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: like we're fortunate that. I was just gonna say, people

923
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: take that for granted, the group that you played with.

924
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen all the time, and when it gets

925
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: taken apart, it doesn't get replaced by another group altogether

926
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: all at once. And when people like, oh, well the

927
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, those are three first rounders that they used

928
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: on their offensive line. So I mean it just comes

929
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: to an extent of you know, looking each and every

930
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: year it ways to improve your group, you know, going

931
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: out and getting Will Hernandez, going out and get the

932
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: best left tackle on the free agent market, and Nate

933
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Solder like going out and getting Patrick a Mommy to

934
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: play right guard. I mean, the moves have been made

935
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: to help make this offensive line better and you're gonna

936
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: see dividends in it. Is it perfect yet, No, but

937
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: that's something that we're going to continue to see the

938
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: progress throughout this season, starting obviously this week up against

939
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in Jacksonville and throughout the

940
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: rest of the year. But if there's a used to

941
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: be brought in to help the group get better, you

942
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: don't think Dave Gentleman or Pat Sherman are going to

943
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: make that move. Of course they are. What do you

944
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: the phone every day, they're watching film every day of

945
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: anybody that's available to come in. And you have to

946
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: be naive to think that decent guys doesn't know more

947
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: than we know as fans or my cave a coach

948
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: that coach in high school or smaller kids. These guys

949
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: are well advanceding what they're doing, and the fans just

950
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: need to chill out. That I used to say to

951
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: my parents, you know what, you can do a better job.

952
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: Go get your team and let me take a look

953
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: at how you coach or how you develop a key,

954
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: and see if you can understand how tough it is

955
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: to create a key on any level. It's very difficult

956
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: to create a successful change. And you know, you know,

957
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: you know what coach it's not just like you mentioned,

958
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: get him in and and and coach Sherman. But they

959
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: have a staff and it's outing department. That's all these

960
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: people are doing seven that's their job. The personel guys,

961
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: that's their job. I mean when when they bring in,

962
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: as they've said, you know, coming on Tuesdays, you always

963
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: bringing in people. They don't just bringing somebody off the street.

964
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Well who's this, No, no, this is you know somebody's

965
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: calling up to David said, you know what, this guy

966
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: is looking pretty good or this guy had this potential

967
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: and this guy did I mean, there's a science to this. Yeah,

968
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: there's a definite strategy to everything that takes place. There's

969
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: a method to the madness. It's always And I have

970
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: one more thing. But before I do that, one last thing,

971
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: just when to let Charlie know I'm not here to

972
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: riff him. I'm just trying to make him understand how

973
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: this is. And it's not something like you can get,

974
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: like you said, five All star, Uh offensive line is

975
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: If you could do it that easy, pretty much every

976
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: team would be calling them to figure out how to

977
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: get that taking all all right, coach, thank you for

978
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: the call. Yeah, no, let's it's okay being a passionate fan.

979
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: I just find that, you know, a little silly. I

980
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: mean the biggest, the biggest complaint all I mean all

981
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: last season, the biggest complaint all last season for for

982
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: a continual topic was the poor play of the offensive line.

983
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: They was so what the Giants did? They completely ripped

984
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: it apart, brought starting everything in new, all kinds of personnel,

985
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: from drafting to signing free agents that you know, Nate Solder,

986
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: you know mega deal and you know to be complaining

987
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: about that for the backup before the season even started. Hello,

988
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that becomes a head scratcher to me. I

989
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: mean it just I don't know. I listen, listen, listen.

990
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Uh we've said that. Uh Coach Shermer has said it.

991
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: You don't need to be a Rockets scientists to know,

992
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: if you've covered football long enough, it all starts on

993
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball in the trenches. If your

994
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: offensive line is not getting it done. On the defensive

995
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: side of the ball, if it's not getting done, you're

996
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna be up to creek without a paddle. And because

997
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: your your secondary is gonna be in trouble. You know,

998
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: it's it's what's the expression, your hit bones connected to

999
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: your thigh bones, and thigh bones, the kneebone, the shin.

1000
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: But come on, you know, I listen. I'm excited about

1001
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: the season, because well, how the hell can you not

1002
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: be excited to coming off at three and three and

1003
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: thirteen season. But but but I will say this, they

1004
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: went ahead, you know, and you and I's our first

1005
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: time together in a long time. Dave Gettelman came in

1006
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: right away. The dark cloud decided, decided, it was lifted

1007
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: out of the building. There was just a positive atmosphere.

1008
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: And then once coach Sherman got brought on board, and

1009
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: then they went to the draft. You know, it wasn't

1010
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: just the draft. If you want to look at the

1011
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: glass half full or half half emptier half full. It

1012
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: wasn't just because they had a horse bleep season. Yeah,

1013
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: they were able to get not just the number two

1014
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: pick overall in the draft, but it allowed them those

1015
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: other picks. There's subsequent picks, Will High. That's why they

1016
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: were able to get Will Hernandez who a lot of people,

1017
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna say, boy, how to hell did

1018
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: this guy and be in the second round? Right, of course,

1019
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you. And a lot of teams that

1020
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: made out and picked at a different position, maybe a

1021
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: skilled position, they're gonna see an injury at some spot

1022
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: on their offensive line and they're gonna wish that they

1023
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: made that pick. Fortunately for the Giants, who was there

1024
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: and they were able to get him in the second

1025
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: I just think, Dave, we got ourselves a very interesting season.

1026
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: But the one the only thing that when I said, listen,

1027
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: everybody worries about everybody worries about injuries, but injuries aside.

1028
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: When I look at the first eight game Tames, I mean, hello,

1029
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: you're talking Jacksonville, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, Carolina, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington.

1030
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: Then the bye week comes up November four. They're gonna

1031
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: need a bye week, definitely are. But it all starts

1032
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: with the week one matchup against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Can't

1033
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: look past them, can't look past any team, and our

1034
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: old friends team Mr Tom Coughlin. Again, folks, I'm Russ Salisburg.

1035
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: This is David Dio. Thank you for being part of

1036
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: Big Blue kick Off here on Giants dot Com. Until

1037
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: next time, we bid you a bye bye, so long

1038
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: and farewell. Hilarious your analysis today. I'm a blowing smoke

1039
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: of your best, perfect than you really