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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woof? And them and Tye, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the solid verbal boys and girls, my name is

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Speaker 1: ty Hildebrand. That fine gentleman over there is standing, standing,

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Speaker 1: not sitting. He's excited for Week eight. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you not good? Not good? My good man?

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Speaker 2: I'm always excited for college football, always excited for Week eight.

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Speaker 2: We have a number of big games. You've said top heavy,

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Speaker 2: but I'm never going to be a believer in that,

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Speaker 2: just because college football is heavy in and of itself.

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Speaker 2: So yes, in terms of the Power five matchups that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a big one.

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Speaker 2: But look, if in a random week in June and

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Speaker 2: Threw my back out last night on the tennis court.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we didn't know if we were going to

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Speaker 1: Of those you should stretch more young man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't want it to be asiaticus Saturday.

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Speaker 2: No searing pain Saturday could be for some I don't want.

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Speaker 1: It to be for me. Yeah, no kind of spinal

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Speaker 1: implications Saturday. Hopefully for my beloved co host Dan Rubenstein

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. This is our week eight,

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Speaker 2: I would say underappreciated Georgia star Nick Chubb just because

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Speaker 2: Proverbial breaks, the proverbial breaks. Okay, Saturday. If you recognize that,

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Speaker 2: Are you going to reveal that team at a different point?

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Speaker 1: Twelve PM on Fox. It is Iowa at three and three.

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Speaker 1: Ohio state favored by twenty nine. Dan, Yes, twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: the hood on this matchup. These teams don't play that often.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five? That the way where they killed them largest

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Speaker 2: Ohio State came off of what last week, not playing

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a look ahead moment.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State is in that very very small group of teams. Now,

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Speaker 1: They are competitive in that game and win it, right,

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Speaker 2: Now, as it relates to Ohio State, all of their

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Speaker 2: destroying Wisconsin, we think less of destroying Michigan State, we

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Speaker 2: and they held game one Ohio State to what twenty

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Speaker 2: I just the Iowa defense doesn't play offense. That's my

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Speaker 2: too much. And I'm gonna give the points. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to slow Ohio State's offense down enough. I think they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I totally get it. I went back

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Speaker 1: That plays to their strength if that is the case.

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Speaker 1: If that does happen, Ohio State wins by thirty five

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Speaker 1: points forty one points. They destroy Iowa in this game

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Speaker 2: I don't hate the pick, and I imagine I was

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Speaker 2: going to play slowly. They're going to try to lengthen

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Speaker 2: again I don't fully trust the Michigan State and Wisconsin results. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: And so that to me is man, I might be

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Speaker 1: Well, think about it. If you want to come back

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Speaker 2: In the comments, by the way, for baller, Aaron said,

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Speaker 2: thousand and six. Yeah, whatever that means. Historically too, we've

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Speaker 1: Let's go to another noon kick, this one on ABC.

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Speaker 1: It is Syracuse six and oh Syracuse dan. Yeah, squaring

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Speaker 2: I can't physically take a knee, Okay, I just want

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Speaker 1: It's not great in a universe if we excavate the

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Speaker 1: let's take that knee. Yeah. I have loved Syracuse since

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Speaker 1: I have loved every thing about Syracuse for as long

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Speaker 1: I loved watching Donovan McNabb, I loved watching the Missile

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a Greg Paulis jersey that you still

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Speaker 1: Only on special occasions only, like anniversaries and things like that. Huh.

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Speaker 1: It almost feels surreal to me to see them ranked fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: I was kind of out on the offense at times

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Speaker 1: Was fully out, not on it. I know you were out,

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Speaker 1: Didn't see this coming though, to be clear, did did

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Speaker 1: not see this coming. So I have reasons for skepticism here,

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the JMA Wireless Dome and how

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Speaker 1: they unfortunately cannot bring it with them to Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Right, lot of home games so far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Clemson can run on Syracuse with Will

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Speaker 1: Clemson is a few weeks now into figuring things out,

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Speaker 1: and that scares me in this matchup, like they kind

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Speaker 1: of got the content figured out. They're just making some

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Speaker 1: The only reason I'm going to go cuse here plus

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Speaker 1: given the cs style, which is it might be news

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Speaker 1: to some very slow by comparison, Yeah, take the air

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Speaker 1: out of the ball. The average only about eleven drives

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Speaker 1: a game, which is totally counter to the old Dino

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Speaker 1: Syracuse style has a bit of an equalizing effect here.

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Speaker 1: So my hunch is Syracuse plus thirteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Syracuse plus thirteen and a half. But

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Speaker 2: I do not see away in which they can win

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Speaker 2: turnovers with a I would say a somewhat confusing defense

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Speaker 2: to play against the three three five that Syracuse runs

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Speaker 2: a very active three three five. Now, it's not the

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Speaker 2: most havocy defense in the country, which I'd like a

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Speaker 2: little bit better, but just in terms of the talent

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Speaker 2: level on Syracuse's offense, that Sean Tucker could pop one

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Speaker 2: six or something. So that to me is something to consider.

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Speaker 2: Dino Baber's own chess match history with Dabo Sweeney, Syracuse

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Speaker 2: played Clemson tough, better Clemson teams tough now granted more

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Speaker 2: beat up Clemson teams. I think it was was it

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Speaker 2: the then Carrier Dome. I'll we can reference At another point,

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Speaker 2: I think Clemson is going to struggle with an always

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Speaker 2: even if it's just a come from behind back door

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Speaker 2: cover in this scenario, I think they'll get enough stops

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm with you. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: if they cover the spread, if they win this one,

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Speaker 1: out right, we rename it to Syracuse Saturday. We just

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's defense and rushing. If that's where you're

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Speaker 2: starting out again, Syracuse not an elite elite defense, but

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Clemson is very good but still

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Speaker 2: start to cover a double digit spread.

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00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: I hope it gets the fourteen then I might jump

435
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 1: on it. Okay, Also in that early window, three other

436
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: games here that I want to zoom through because we

437
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: have so much more to get to ESPN two. It's

438
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: Kansas at five and two, it is Baylor at three

439
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: and three. Baylor was an eight point favorite. Now there

440
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: are a seven and a half point favorite. I am

441
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: on Kansas here to cover, in Baylor to win. I

442
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: think we have reached the point now Dan where I'm

443
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: just going to take him anytime they're getting more than

444
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown, right, Every team in the Big twelve feels

445
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: kind of the same on some level, which is it's unbelievable.

446
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's great for the home viewer, but if

447
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 1: they're getting more than a touchdown, in this case, they

448
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: got that hook. I go Kansas.

449
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: I think we're going to Jayhawks here. There is something

450
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: about Baylor that I don't that I both trust a

451
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: good deal like. I think their floor is pretty high.

452
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: I think they're sort of solid across the board. They

453
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: do a good enough job on defense. Blake shape and

454
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: has you know he has not been mistake prone. I

455
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: believe Gavin Holmes might be leading all Power five receivers

456
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: in yards per catch, yards per reception. We can double

457
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: check that we have an army of fact checkers because

458
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: it's we do not. I'm almost positive he does. It's

459
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: I think it's him and Jonathan Mingo from Ole Miss

460
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Sure are a top so he's right there. I'm I

461
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: think I'm going Kansas here. I think I'm going Kansas

462
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: here because situationally, Baylor bothers me a little bit and

463
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hold you know, the BYU game against them,

464
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: and it's a shootout against West Virginia with some weird

465
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: things happening in that game.

466
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: I just I want to know.

467
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: What Baylor's specific identity is this year because they haven't

468
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: been running the ball as well. Gavin Holmes has emerged,

469
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: a couple receivers have emerged, but it's still that propensity

470
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: at times to play a little too much small ball.

471
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: Even with Gavin Holmes, they've improved there. That worries me,

472
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: and so I'm going Kansas to cover. I think Baylor

473
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: wins this game. It's in Waco.

474
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: Yes, game is in Waco. Yeah.

475
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: I think it's back and forth. I think it's going

476
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: to be a terrific signifier of how competitive this conference is.

477
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: But I have Baylor close and thus Kansas throughout. By

478
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: the way, this is a not easy stretch of Kansas's schedule. No,

479
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: if Kansas is full on pretty good, the stretch involved

480
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: here with Oklahoma and TCU and Baile like it's just

481
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: week after we this is it's really going to test

482
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: their depth, It's really going to test their focus. But

483
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: I think offensively, they're still in a good enough place

484
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: with Jason Bean if it is a Jason Bean game

485
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: to compete with Baylor, if not win this game. So, yeah,

486
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Kansas needs to win another game to get Bowl Elgible.

487
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: They do need to win another game.

488
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got They got to win one, and I

489
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: don't think that's a given. Frankly, I don't think it's

490
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: a given. They're a lot better. They're a good team,

491
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: They're good offense, right, But I'm glad we can pump

492
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: the brakes universally on Kansas a little bit here. I'm

493
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: rooting for them, and I think they stand a great

494
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: chance of winning this game.

495
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: But Baylor's current pass defense in terms of success rate

496
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 2: how often teams are able to complete successful passes one

497
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: hundred and first nationally on eighty sixth most efficient pass defense.

498
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 2: So all right, there should be some Jayhawk yardage in

499
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: that final box score.

500
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Also, we've got Cincinnati at five and one, a three

501
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: point favorite on the road at SMU. I just want

502
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: to throw this one in there because we haven't talked

503
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: a whole lot about Cincinnati. Right at five and won

504
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: their ranked twenty first, they lost to Arkansas week one.

505
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: It was a game they should have won, and then

506
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: we sort of left them for dead. Yeah, nobody's talked

507
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: about Cincinnati. It's still a good team. I don't think

508
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: they are as good as a team that we saw

509
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: year ago. I don't see how they could be given

510
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: all of their turnover, right, I mean, there's just no chance.

511
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: But still a really solid team. I've got them winning

512
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: this one over SMU, even though it's on the road,

513
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: by like seven to ten.

514
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: Are you worried that Ben Bryant suffered a concussion and

515
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: is questionable?

516
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: Are you worried that? I think it's Tyler Scott the receiver.

517
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: It also hurts, yes, so that's I think Ben Bryant practiced.

518
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: KURR is still like game time decision.

519
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: Game time decision, game time decisions.

520
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's why that's where the number

521
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: comes into play. Because SMU has been kind of up

522
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: and down and their defense is kind of a mess

523
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: after taking some strides the last couple of years. So

524
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: that's that's what worries me about SMU. I think I'm

525
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: going Cincy as well. I think even though the defense

526
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: has taken a couple steps back, it's still good. It's

527
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: still a good defense. They give up more big plays,

528
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: the pass rush isn't as great without you know, those

529
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: ridiculous ends and my Jay Sanders. I'm going Cincinnati here.

530
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: I just don't think SMU is all that trustworthy. And

531
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: I think in terms of finding ways to win, I'm

532
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: still with the Bearcats. Even though they're not running the

533
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: ball as well. If remember without drome Ford, I still

534
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: think they're able to manufacture wins in a more impressive way.

535
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: Right now, also shout out I message you this earlier.

536
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai has a backup named Preston Stone. The most

537
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: interchangeably named quarterback room in college football, because it could

538
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: be Stone Mordecai, it could be Tanner. I mean, Tanner

539
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: Tanner would be great, but Tanner Stone Tanner, Preston Preston Mordecai.

540
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: It is a fully modular quarterback room, and I respect

541
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: the hell out of it. That's taking like the old

542
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: Georgia quarterbacks have you know, can work back and forth.

543
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Last name, first name. You know, Bennett Stetson, sure works,

544
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: that works. That's different. But Murray is an acceptable first

545
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: name all over the place. We've been able to see this,

546
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: and so SMU really taking that up a level with

547
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: the modular quarterback name room.

548
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: Final game in the early window Duke four and three,

549
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Miami three and three, Miami favored by nine. The line's

550
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: gone up the sharp betters for what I can gather

551
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: on Miami here. Okay, Miami is underperformed every week if

552
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: you look at the sp plus stuff. Every week they

553
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: have undershot their projection. And Duke Duke is nothing if

554
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: not motivated. Duke is playing with house money at this point, right,

555
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: So you got to imagine they see a team like Miami,

556
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: They're licking their chops a little bit. They have been

557
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: good most of the year, better than expected. They've been

558
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: another one of these college football field good stories this season.

559
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I can't come up with a reason and go Miami.

560
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: I just I can't do it.

561
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: Did you see the the giveaway the discount happening for

562
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: Miami Duke in Hard Stadium? No, so you've heard of

563
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: the obviously what a senior day is, right, which you

564
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: hot are.

565
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: A team seniors.

566
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: I think it's a senior day in that senior citizens

567
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: get a discount this week to go see Miami Duke

568
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: for Septagenarian Saturday. I think it would be sixty five plus.

569
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: Is Notre Dame playing Notre Dame is somehow not playing

570
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: in a matchup that honors the greatest generation. I think

571
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm going Duke here.

572
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm going And I don't even know if

573
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: they win outright, but Riley Leonard appears to be the

574
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: most consistently impressive offensive player in this game. And look,

575
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: the opponents haven't been great, and I know Miami's receivers,

576
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: they've been hurt, and some younger guys have stepped up

577
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: that are promising.

578
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate all of that, but.

579
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Miami just finds ways to play down to literally anybody

580
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: they play. Yeah, and if you play down to Duke,

581
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: even if Duke is merely average or below average or

582
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: kind of occasionally scary, that's good enough to cover. Oh

583
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: went through all the list of injured players. At one point,

584
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: we were without our top eleven running backs and our

585
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: top seventeen line. Okay, I think Duke is just playing

586
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: harder and smarter, and so that's too many points for me.

587
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: When Miami jumped out to a comfortable lead against Virginia Tech,

588
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: who has a Virginia Tech team that has nothing, Miami

589
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: is presumably getting healthier and has an interesting ceiling because

590
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: of TVD, who's been usually just inconsistent TOIL lately. I'm

591
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: going Duke here. I think Riley Leonard gets gets going

592
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: impressively and they throw everything at Miami in a place

593
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: that's not terribly difficult to win at.

594
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, give me the Blue Devils Afternoon's Slade. Here

595
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: we go, Dan, here we go. This is the big

596
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: in for you. UCLA six and oho Oregon five and one,

597
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: three point thirty on Fox. Your Oregon Ducks favored by six. Now.

598
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: Last two meetings between these two teams have been three

599
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: point games thirty four to thirty one last season in

600
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Pasadena thirty eight thirty five, and twenty twenty when the

601
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: game was in Eugene. Oregon has won both. Yeah, I'm

602
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: going to turn this one over to you in a second,

603
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: because you obviously are more familiar with the Ducks than I. Yeah,

604
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: and you don't have the baggage. I don't have the

605
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: baggage as of being an Oregon fan or UCLA fan

606
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. From what I see on paper, though these

607
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: teams are dead. Even they are good offenses, both have

608
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: flaws on defense, specifically against the pass. Oregon is especially

609
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: bad at generating pressure. They've not been a great tackling team.

610
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Like all these stats that we look at. We talked

611
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: to Bill yesterday, Bill Connolly from ESPN. He seems pretty

612
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: sold on Oregon, not specifically in this matchup. We didn't

613
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: talk about this game, but just in general. He thinks

614
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: they're really good. Where are you at here with this

615
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: matchup with this Oregon team? I know you feel pretty

616
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: good about them, but how good.

617
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: I feel good about them against UCLA?

618
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: And you mentioned those two matchups.

619
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: It was something like thirty one or thirty four to

620
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: seventeen in the fourth quarter last year, and then there

621
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: was some turnover stuff and it's was an Anthony Brown team.

622
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Not that bo Nicks has a history of being the

623
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: most dependably consistent quarterback.

624
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: They say, be careful order week to.

625
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Week, month to month. I understand all that. And the

626
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: game you referenced before then I believe DTR did not play.

627
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: I think there was a Chase Griffin game in Autsen

628
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: that was down to the wire. So Chip has after

629
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: the first couple of years, has played Oregon tough these

630
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: last couple times. That one from the Chase Griffin game

631
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty was in Eugene. Last year was in

632
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. This year's matchup is fascinating. UCLA's offense

633
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: is a more efficient scoring offense so far. I discovered

634
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: this couple days ago, a more efficient scoring offense than

635
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: any of his Oregon teams over the course of an

636
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: entire season, of course, and so UCLA has probably the

637
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: fifth most fourth or fifth most efficient scoring offense in

638
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: terms of points per drive in the nation. They never

639
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: go three and out. I think they're leading the name

640
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: in avoiding three and out on offense. Iowa higher Chip

641
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Kelly and DTR has been by and large against a

642
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: sort of not crazy impressive schedule other than Utah excellent,

643
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: and he was excellent against Utah. I worry that UCLA

644
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: hasn't played on the road. I think they played Colorado

645
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: beat of Colorado, but they haven't played a meaningful game

646
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: on the road this year. I worry that UCLA. If

647
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: UCLA is going to go to Oregon and win this game,

648
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: they kind of have to be the best possible version

649
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: of Ucla for four straight quarters, like a perfect version

650
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: of themselves. And I don't buy it with the defense.

651
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't buy it with the talent level on defense.

652
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't buy it with the pass rush, just in

653
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: a similar way that I don't trust Oregon on defense

654
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: fully and don't trust the Oregon pass rush at all times.

655
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Oregon has been a much better tackling team since that

656
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Georgia game, right, and that's that's coloring the statistics as

657
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: it should. But they've been much better on defense in

658
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: preventing big plays they don't they're still not getting off

659
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: the field on third down. So I think UCLA is

660
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: going to score ultimately, though. I think the crowd, I

661
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: think the setting, I think the fact that Oregon can

662
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: just run the hell out of the ball, and I

663
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: think they're gonna do it on Ucla. I think it's

664
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: too much for the Bruins. I think it's gonna I

665
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: think the day will reflect very well on Ucla. I think,

666
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: once again, though, I'm gonna take the po I'm gonna

667
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: excuse me. I'm gonna give the points. I think ultimately

668
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: over the course of four quarters, I have Oregon by

669
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: thirteen here, while I'm like forty one to twenty eight

670
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: something in that range.

671
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: Is this really going to be an exercise where we

672
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: have to where each of us has to ask ourselves

673
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: do we trust DTR or Bonix more?

674
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: It is is a total exercise, And yeah, this is.

675
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: A thought experiment that I was not fully prepared for.

676
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to UCLA, okay, I don't. I mean, look,

677
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: U Sill is a really good team. Yeah, I'm going

678
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: to UCLA here, and I'm not sure who wins the

679
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: game outright, I have no idea. I just feel like

680
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: both these teams are pretty equally matched. And you know

681
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: that not without some nuance. I understand him oversimplifying. Yeah,

682
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: just feels like six is a lot. It feels like

683
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: with the physical nature with which UCLA likes to try

684
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: and run the ball on their side of things with

685
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: and Organ's been really great stopping the run. But Organ's

686
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: been great at stopping the run for sure, with maybe

687
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: and improved DTR. He's been in the system forever, he

688
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: should be improved. I just feel like everything you're saying

689
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: is accurate. Six points just feels like a lot to me.

690
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go UCLA, all right, we just agree. Also,

691
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: three CBS, we've got ole Miss seven and zero. We've

692
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: got LSU five and two. Here's what's interesting about this.

693
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: LSU is now favored. LSU was favored by a point

694
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: and a half. I saw the line. I furrowed my

695
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: brow because I think very highly of ole Miss. Interestingly,

696
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: though ole Miss has underperformed, is also underperformed. As I

697
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: mentioned with Miami, we're gonna call out Miami. Let's call

698
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: it Old Miss too, please. Old Miss has undershot its

699
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: projection in the sp plus in five of their seven

700
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: wins this season.

701
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, is there a connection Henry Parrish? Henry

702
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: Parrish is infecting teams and making them underperform, even though

703
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: he himself is an impressive player.

704
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Continue it could be so. I don't know what it is,

705
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: but the projection in this game is old Miss by three.

706
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: So if they undershoot that, hey could be talking. Could

707
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: be talking a big win here for Brian Kelly, a

708
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: top ten win. Don't count on it. It's Brian Kelly

709
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: just saying, right, I believe in the Old Miss ground

710
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: game and in the defense a great deal. I am

711
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: curious to see how both of those units function in

712
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: a hostile road environment like thus far their road games

713
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: have been Georgia Tech and Vandy notably more docile in

714
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: those two settings than what they're going to experience in

715
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Death Valley. So what happens when you go to a

716
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: place that's really loud. We already know this is a

717
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: line for Old Miss that's committed a ton of penalties.

718
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: Suddenly there's there's just more going on. So I question

719
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: whether or not that line can be disciplined enough to

720
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: not put them off schedule, to not get them backed

721
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: up into situations where suddenly we've got a lot more

722
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: pressure than expected on a guy like Jackson Dark, he's

723
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: got to throw the ball in order to win. I

724
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: don't like that setup, but I do think this is

725
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: one in which Ole Miss is good enough with what

726
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: they already have been doing well ground game defense to

727
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: win this one. So I also like the tendency towards

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: big plays. We've seen that a lot from Ole Miss

729
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: this year. I think it is that tendency that breaks

730
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: us one open. Else he certainly does not create enough

731
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: big plays on offense. We've talked about that, they also

732
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: allow fair amount of them on defense. So I'm on

733
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: all Miss here. It's a one score game. I think

734
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: it's close, but I like Old Miss outright, Ole Miss

735
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: luck of the week ooh yeah, Bluck of the week.

736
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Continue emotional win last week in the swamp, So I

737
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: don't really body blow theory. I don't like LSU's tackling

738
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: in the open field. That's not just colored by the

739
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: crazy Anthony Richardson play. But I just have watched enough

740
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: LSU at this point to know that I don't love

741
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: them as a tackling team. I think Lane Kiffen will

742
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: exploit enough of this LSU defense that hasn't done all

743
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: that much against the run this year. Look, and if

744
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the altar of Dan and

745
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: the ethos, I look at a couple of different things,

746
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: and you watch LSU give up the number of bigger

747
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: plays that they give up, You watch the inconsistency on

748
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: offense to generate those big plays, and they did a

749
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: better job last week against Florida. I think the Ole

750
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: Miss defense is better than Florida's. I think just Old

751
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: Miss around the entire board. That's not English. I think

752
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: oh Miss still take another stab at this tie. I

753
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: think across the board, ole Miss is just more dependable.

754
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: I think their defense, even though I think they've taken

755
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: a step back after losing DJ Durkin, I think their

756
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: defense is still pretty good. They gave up too many

757
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: points to Auburn last week, but in this setting situationally,

758
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: I like ole Miss's ability to run the ball and

759
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: get stops.

760
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: That's set. That's set.

761
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: If you're asking me a quarterback trust question like we

762
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: did with the previous game, care somebody is down ten

763
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: and needs to start throwing it with nine minutes left

764
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: or something like that. Ten out of ten times, I'm

765
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: gonna trust Jayden Daniels over Jackson Dart, this version of

766
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels and this version of Jackson Dart who they

767
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: don't seem to trust with the game plan to go

768
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: out and throw a bunch and that's okay. Win how

769
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: you're winning. And ole Miss might be the best rushing

770
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: team with all the transfers of everything in the country,

771
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: I still think overall, I trust ole Miss to win

772
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: in more ways. And the special team stuff with LSU

773
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: still concerns me that if this is a close matchup

774
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: and back and forth, that those the easy hidden yards,

775
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: the advantage still goes to ole Miss for me.

776
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: So I agree, I'm going ole Miss lock of the week.

777
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, I really do. Let's

778
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: go to one other game here that I have in

779
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: this after noon window three THIRTYBC Texas five and two

780
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State five and one. If I told you that

781
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: the point spread here is six and a half in

782
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: favor of Texas and it's gone up, how would you

783
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: feel about that? How do you feel about that? Does

784
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: that surprise you? Do?

785
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: You want to know how I would feel or how

786
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: I actually feel?

787
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: How do you feel?

788
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: I'd like Oklahoma State a lot more if the twenty

789
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: twenty one defense were in town. Yeah, that's the thing,

790
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: especially that second half defense. I don't trust either of

791
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: these teams, and I think Oklahoma State is better than

792
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: what they showed after jumping out to that huge lead.

793
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: They kind of pulled a Texas last week, and it

794
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: did the way they jumped out against TCU and slowly

795
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: let the Frogs back in that game and lost something

796
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: heartbreaking late. What have we seen from quin yours on

797
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: the road. I mean, look, it's a pseudo road game

798
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma and Dallas, I guess, but it's not a

799
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: traditional hostile environment. I'm gonna I would always say take

800
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: the points with a home dog with a good defense

801
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: at home in a difficult place to play. I think

802
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: Bompicken Stadium is a difficult place to play. I'm not

803
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: in on this Oklahoma State defense in the way that

804
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: I hope to be with Derek Mason. So I still

805
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: think I trust the more seasoned quarterback in Spencer Sanders.

806
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 2: I still think I trust the home field environment. I'm

807
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: still a little bit worried about texas is up and

808
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: down game against Iowa State not scoring a bunch of points,

809
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: stealing my I think it's back and forth. I think

810
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: it's back and forth. But again, if we're talking trust issues,

811
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't fully trust either one of these guys. But

812
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: I think there's there's going to be a fire that's

813
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: more pronounced lit under Oklahoma State at home against texas

814
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: As home DOGSOS. So I'm going I'm going pokes.

815
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I genuinely think Texas is a pretty

816
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: good team. Same, I genuinely think they're a pretty good team,

817
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: but I do think they're a caveats to that. I

818
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: think last week the Iowa State game that you mentioned

819
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: is a good example of them not being a finished product.

820
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: They're just not They're not there yet. They have things

821
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: that they are working through. They're working through maybe some

822
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: of their own trust issues. Hm. This is a team

823
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: that should be a lot better than eking out what

824
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: was it a three point win over Iowa State. I

825
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: just feel like Texas has a lot more in the

826
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: tank than that, and we didn't see it. The only

827
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: reason I'm unsure about taking Oklahoma State with the points

828
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: here is because they're really susceptible to big plays. You

829
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: alluded to it. Yeah, with the defense, but big play

830
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: as long passes. That's Quinnyure's music, Dan, That's what he

831
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: wants to do, That's what Steve Sarkjian wants to do

832
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: with this guy. So I'm hesitant to go plus the

833
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: points here. I'm hesitant to lay the points. Really, I

834
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing with this one. I've got

835
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Texas winning. I think this is a high scoring affair. Wow,

836
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty Texas wins, but Oklahoma State covers.

837
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's gonna be the fascinating matchup is how

838
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: often Texas is able to generate those bigger plays. Now

839
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: that you know you have Jordan Whittington, Jordan Wittington, you

840
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: have Jatavian Sanders stepping up, and then you know Bijon

841
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: still there as an all purpose guy. Roshan Johnson's there

842
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: as an all purpose guy. Like the confidence I think

843
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: when yours and the Texas offensive coaching staff have in

844
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: this offense to be creative and find open grass, I

845
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: think is pretty impressive.

846
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Now.

847
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: Situationally, coming off that Iowa State game, though I think

848
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: they're beat up, they pushed him around a little bit.

849
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm still going to Oklahoma State here. I think

850
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

851
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Out right, outright wow.

852
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Because now what we're saying is Texas is who they

853
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: were against Oklahoma, most of which was without Dylan Gabriel, right,

854
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: and Texas is who they were the first quarter of

855
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: the Alabama game. Who now Alabama gives up yardage? So

856
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: I just don't know what what is the defining impressive

857
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: situation that we can look back on Texas with.

858
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: That's all all right, let's move over to the night

859
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: games if we could. Let's seven pm ESPN Mississippi State

860
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: five and two, Alabama now six and one. Could this

861
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: could this be another instance of exercising college football demons?

862
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Dan fives the demons.

863
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: Alabama's won the last fourteen matchups here, fourteen straight years

864
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: of beaten up on Mississippi State. Mississippi State, Look, I

865
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: don't have to tell you about the Bulldogs. You love

866
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. They nearly as good as Kentucky. Nearly as

867
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: good as Kentucky. They bring a pretty good, if not

868
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: enigmatic team to Tuscaloosa this week, one week after BAMA

869
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: got dumped in Knoxville. Excuse me, I think it's worth

870
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: noting that Mike Leach in his time at Mississippi State

871
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: has lost by a combined score of ninety to nine

872
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: against nick Saban and in this matchup they are a

873
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: healthy twenty one point underdog. So how much do you

874
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: believe in Mississippi State? How much do you believe in

875
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: whatever happened last week to Alabama being more of a

876
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: trend than just the one off. How much do you

877
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: believe in general? Dan? It's a good question.

878
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: Now, Mississippi State has not been the same away from Starkville,

879
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: which who is tie. Of course, what is the impressive

880
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: Alabama moment this year?

881
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Hmm? I mean what is it? Right?

882
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: It's relatively close against Arkansas late, relatively close, if not

883
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: very close, obviously against Texas A and M late and

884
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: a loss to Tennessee. Yeah, who have they comfortably separated

885
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: themselves from?

886
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Now? I don't love.

887
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Mississippi State's defense this year. I think if you're gonna

888
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: be the engineer on the underthink express, you give the

889
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: ball to Jamier Gibbs and you say, go do your thing,

890
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: Let's go win by four touchdowns. Because Mississippi State has

891
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: not been great upfront stopping the run, not being great

892
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: op the open field, stop in the run. And so

893
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: with the way that they finished that LSU game, now

894
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: we're talking about like, is Mississippi Sta going to keep

895
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: it closer than what'd you say? Twenty one points?

896
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: Twenty one points? Yeah, it's a big number.

897
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: Mike Leach hasn't really kept it all that close against Alabama.

898
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: So in that it's in Tuscaloosa, in that it's a

899
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: potential neck crack game, I think I'm going with, especially

900
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: the way that Mississippi State lost to Kentucky, I'm going

901
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: with Alabama to cover this spread and have it be

902
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: their first truly impressive moment of the season.

903
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't hate it.

904
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.

905
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: You know, the obvious area of concern for Mississippi State

906
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: is the rush defense. You can get them on the ground,

907
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: and their passing game also has built around a lot

908
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: of short stuff. That's the Mike Leach system, right, the

909
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: air raid. I don't think that's a formula for beating Alabama.

910
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: I think the formula we saw last week is a

911
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: really good formula to beat Alabama. But that was a

912
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: lot of downfield stuff and that's just not their jam.

913
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: That's not what they do. Yep, that's not what they do.

914
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: That's in the line feels comically high to me, it really.

915
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a bad matchup mm hmm,

916
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: but it just feels really high. My concern though, with

917
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: going Mississippi State, and perhaps this is a little bit

918
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: of my own Samson it Saturday at play. It's why

919
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't bring myself to take Tennessee out right a

920
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: week ago, because it's just so hard to go against Alabama.

921
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: It's hard to go against Alabama because we've had moments

922
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: in the past like, ruh, that's true. Zombie Alabama. It's baggage.

923
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: That's baggage. It's baggage. Right, they taste their own blood,

924
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: suddenly they turn into a monster. I'm a little bit

925
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: worried about that here. I think they've tasted their own blood.

926
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: I am banking on them destroying Mississippi State, them doing

927
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: what they always do in the face of real adversity,

928
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: and that is rip the arms and legs off of

929
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the next opponent.

930
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: But you're referencing like a story from like twenty sixteen, right,

931
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: the you know, the zombie Alabama. I forget who was

932
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: it was Dan Wilkan or somebody who said that the

933
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: dynasty's over.

934
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: They've done it in the Saban era.

935
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: It's the Saban era. But it's not the Bryce Young era. Right,

936
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: it's not the Jamiir Gibbs era. It's not the Bill

937
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: O'Brien era. It's not that Like they have played down

938
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: to a lot of teams these past two or three years.

939
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: They don't have that guy on offense as good as

940
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs and as good as like some of these

941
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: receivers can be at times. It's no DeVante Smith, Right,

942
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: there's nobody that you can turn to on this Alabama

943
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: offense to say, all right, let him go, let him

944
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: go wild. And that's the difference to me. I mean,

945
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: the guy you can say is Bryce Young, reigning Heisman winner,

946
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: that you know when he is in command and he

947
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: is dealing, he's impossible because you can't bring him down,

948
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: you can't catch up to him. Yeah, he's just a

949
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: wizard at extending plays. I'm going to Alabama here I am.

950
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: And it's not because of previous baggett. It's because of

951
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: the specific guys on their team and my losing trust

952
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: with Mississippi State, especially on the road. I dig I'm

953
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: with you. That's where my heart is.

954
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. Let's go to seven point

955
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: thirty ABC, Minnesota four and two, Penn State five and one,

956
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: Penn State four and a half, five points the favorite.

957
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Every time I look it seems a little bit different.

958
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: I said it at the top of the show. There

959
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: is a decision that needs to be made that should

960
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: be made this week that could impact one team's next

961
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: two to three years, and that's Penn State. That decision

962
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: is that it is time to start Drew Aller their

963
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: phemom freshman.

964
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: I saw James Franklin talk about it this week.

965
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: Continue he said nothing. It was a bunch of coaches speak.

966
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: He said, Sean Clifford, and this is my paraphrasing his

967
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: non speak, Sean Clifford has earned the right, yeah whatever,

968
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: through what he's done here.

969
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: It's a start aller Saturday from me, Dan all right,

970
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: because I heard the same thing you'd did from James Franklin.

971
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: It's a lot of coaches speak. You know, they asked

972
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: him who's QB one? And you know he danced around it.

973
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: I think he has been very loyal to Sean Clifford,

974
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: that on some level, I guess is admirable. But Drew

975
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Aller's throwing twenty nine passes, and anybody who watches the

976
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: games can already tell he's better. You can just tell.

977
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Some guys have it the way that Trevor Lawrence had it.

978
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing him to Trevor Lawrence. I'm just drawing

979
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: a weird example, the way that Quinn Ewers had it

980
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: the first time he saw him throw a ball. This season,

981
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Drew Aller has it to the extent that he's I think,

982
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: clearly better than Shan Clifford. Now's the time to make

983
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: the move. Now's the time to make the move, because

984
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: if you saw what we all saw last week against Michigan,

985
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: you need more upside than that. If you want to

986
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: beat a team Michael Ohio State, maybe even if you

987
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: want to beat a team like in Minnesota, it's a

988
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: really good defense. You need more upside. You need somebody

989
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: who can give you more on offense. I don't think

990
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Clifford's that guy. I've never thought that he's the guy.

991
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I think now's the time to make

992
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: the move for what it's worth. On the Minnesota side,

993
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Tanner Morgan's status is still up in the air. They

994
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: have not ruled him out. He got carted off last week.

995
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: I believe he took an open fist to the to

996
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: the side of the helmet while running for a first

997
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: down early in the fourth quarter and got got knocked

998
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: out in that let's be open. Is that a thing?

999
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Can you have an open you have a close fist? Excuse?

1000
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said open fists would be

1001
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: a slap. I guess yeah, no, it was. It was

1002
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: somebody trying to nudge a ball loose and hit his head.

1003
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: It was a regular fist correct, So we'll see what

1004
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: happens with him. I hope he's okay. It sounds like

1005
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: per PJ. Fleck he is doing quote very well, so

1006
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: we wish the best for him. I do question the

1007
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota narrative a little bit, though. I question it because

1008
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: the narrative all along, even back to the preseason, right,

1009
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: Minnesota is a good team. Minnesota is a good team.

1010
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: You point, they're a good team. They got a good defense,

1011
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: they got veteran quarterback, they can run the ball that

1012
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: I believe. The defense is mostly good. I believe the

1013
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: offense is very one dimensional. Minnesota's lost to the only

1014
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: two decent teams they've played this year. Does that make

1015
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: you a good team if all you do is lose

1016
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: to the other good teams that you play.

1017
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: Well, Look, they have their their general their usual September schedule,

1018
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: the Minnesota nice schedule. That's early on in September, that's

1019
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: always you know, pillowy soft We should get some sort

1020
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: of Pillow sponsorship or get another Mattress sponsorship and tie

1021
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: it in too, especially easy septembers. That'd be nice.

1022
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I had mister Softie on the board here somewhere.

1023
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I just don't think Minnesota is all that good.

1024
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: You're also talking about homecoming for Kirk Sharrak or brief

1025
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: homecoming Kirk sharak and Beaver Stadium, not to be understated here, Kirk,

1026
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: there you go. I think this is a game in

1027
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: which Penn State looks good whoever is at quarterback good

1028
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 2: enough to comfortably beat Minnesota and mislead their own fans

1029
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: into thinking they've turned a corner, because there is still

1030
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: somewhat of an expectation or perception of Minnesota as a

1031
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: good team, which again you point to when they've actually

1032
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: played other talented, interesting teams who win games they lose

1033
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: and especially don't look impressive on offense, especially if they're

1034
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: playing their backup quarterback. I think this sets up really

1035
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: nicely for Penn State to have a little bit of

1036
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: a turnaround in the midyear.

1037
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm on Penn State here. I don't feel great about it,

1038
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: but I'm on Penn State here. I would tell you,

1039
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: just as like an aside, if you want to play

1040
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: a drinking game at home, chug your drake whatever it

1041
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: is in front of you. If we see the scenario

1042
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: in which Mike earsicch James Franklin decide now would be

1043
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: a good time to put both quarterbacks in the game

1044
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: at the same time. Sure, they've done this, they've done

1045
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: this move before where it's like, oh, we're gon, we're

1046
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: gonna split so and so out wide. Nobody's falling for

1047
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: that Shan Clifford out wide.

1048
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: There was the Big Bowl game with what Trace mcsorlely

1049
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: and Sean Clifford seeing the field or Will Levis they

1050
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 2: were doing like weird pitch stuff. Was that the game

1051
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: against It's either Washington or Memphis or somebody like that.

1052
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying, like they've got that card up

1053
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: the sleeve at some point. There's no need to play

1054
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: it here. There's never a need to play that card.

1055
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: It would not surprise me if they played that card

1056
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: just to throw Sean Clifford a bone if he's not

1057
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: the start right.

1058
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: Penn State strikes me as a team that if they

1059
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, have a different coach next year, that

1060
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: they could be like Keystone State TCU, where it's just like,

1061
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: all of the sudden, next year they've got this high

1062
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: flying offense, like these guys were on the team the

1063
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: last two years and suddenly whoever is a new head

1064
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: coach at Penn State, and they suddenly in the way

1065
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: that Sunny Dykes did it with TCU, all of a sudden,

1066
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: same guys who are struggling are super explosive and interesting.

1067
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: That's what Penn State strikes me as that they are

1068
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: so far below their potential on offense that you have

1069
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: to question not the guys, but the guys coach of

1070
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: the guys.

1071
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: Eight PM. Speaking of TCU, they're at home. They're a

1072
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorite against Kansas State, your

1073
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Kansas State Wildcats. Yes, sir, Sometimes when we last left

1074
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: our heroes in Manhattan, Kansas, Dan or from Manhattan, Kansas,

1075
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: they were on the road. They were grinding out a

1076
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: ten to nine win in Pharmageddon ten to nine US,

1077
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: So they've had a week to think about it to

1078
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: get ready for this TCU game. Of note here, TCU

1079
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: might be the conference's only unbeaten team, but Kansas State

1080
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: has yet to lose a conference game, so for all

1081
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: intents and purposes, this is a battle for conference supremacy

1082
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve. Both are top grade the Big

1083
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: Twelve standing is a big game, huge, huge game, a

1084
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: purple out. I like the fact that Kansas State has

1085
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: beaten two teams that are similar enough in Oklahoma and

1086
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Again that is oversimplifying, don't hold me to that,

1087
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: but similar enough, big plays, quick strike offense is that

1088
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: type of thing. They've acquitted themselves well in both of

1089
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: those matchups, and they've proven that they can score with

1090
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: the opponent if they have to, if that's what takes

1091
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: to win, they can play that game. I also think

1092
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: there's big letdown potential here for TCU, big time letdown

1093
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: potential after last week, after what we saw last week,

1094
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: they were down what was it, twenty four to seven,

1095
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: they came back, they wanted oht. Now suddenly they're a

1096
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: top ten team. That's a lot to process in a week.

1097
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: So agree, I'm going kse State outright. I like Case

1098
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: State in this matchup. I think I am too.

1099
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think we've gotten TCU right all

1100
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: that often this year.

1101
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: Look, I never get them right.

1102
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: I'm going Kansas State here. I think they'll be able

1103
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: to run enough to control this game. I'm never super

1104
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: confident in Adrian Martinez in a big spot, and especially

1105
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: this year. He was explosive, I believe against Iowa State, right,

1106
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: But man, there's I still have some trustations with Kansas

1107
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: State on offense. I just at a certain point I

1108
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: don't believe.

1109
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: TCU is an undefeated team.

1110
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think this is a tough matchup

1111
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: against a tough defense in a letdown spot after the

1112
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: emotional overtime win last week, as you mentioned, So I'm

1113
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm going with k State off last week.

1114
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Case State was off last week. They had a week

1115
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: to think about the ten to nine win and a

1116
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: week to prep for TCU.

1117
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm going kse State here at night. Yeah, I think

1118
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: it gets weird.

1119
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to lock it up. Lock it

1120
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: dude of the week. Yeah, I think I'm going to

1121
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: lock that up. Final game here in the night cap,

1122
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: and then if there are any others that you just

1123
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: want to rattle off, whatever, Texas A and M. Texas

1124
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: A and M is a three point road favorite at

1125
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: South Carolina. A couple things of note here. First off,

1126
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: Carolina has got a better record than A and M,

1127
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: which maybe you saw coming but probably didn't right. Secondly,

1128
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: we have not talked a lot of South Carolina this year.

1129
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: They're four and two. Realistically, if they want to be

1130
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: Bowl eligible, they got to win two of their next

1131
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: four games, because it's a much much tougher path if

1132
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: you come to the final two weeks of the season,

1133
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: Week twelve and thirteen, and you got to beat either

1134
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: Tennessee or Clemson on the road to get the six wins.

1135
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: So it's got to happen at some point over the

1136
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: next month here if they want to go back to

1137
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: a bowl game. Generally speaking, these teams are mirror images

1138
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: of each other, at least statistically speaking. Neither's particularly good

1139
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: against the pass. Both are much more efficient when they

1140
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: run the football. Neither as good as stopping the run.

1141
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: All right, most of the picks I saw in this

1142
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: matchup are on South Carolina. Interestingly enough, plus the points,

1143
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm going A and M here. I'm going to A

1144
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: and M because I just don't. I cannot convince myself

1145
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: that they are that bad. I just can't. And I

1146
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: know Carolinas improved. I've got some footage. I know you

1147
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: got footage. I've seen the footage. You're interested, I've seen

1148
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: the footage. Now I cannot convince myself. Maybe I will

1149
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: be convinced otherwise after this matchup. I cannot convince myself

1150
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: that A and M is losing on the road to

1151
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: South Carolina. That they're not winning this game by more

1152
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: than a field goal. There are many things, many of

1153
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: them not so great, but they've played so much better

1154
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: competition in South Carolina. They almost beat Alabama a couple

1155
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, which is still a pretty good team.

1156
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: In my opinion. Spencer Rattler is not quite the revelation

1157
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: at quarterback that I think we hoped for the game Cox.

1158
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: He's still better than what they had, but eight interceptions

1159
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: this year, I don't think that bodes well for a

1160
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: matchup like this against what I think is still a

1161
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: decent enough defense. I think this is a game where

1162
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: Devin h Chiane runs wild. I think A and M

1163
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: wins something like thirty one to twenty one easy cover. Okay,

1164
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: so Texas A and M.

1165
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: Since since scoring thirty one against Sam Houston, Yeah, they

1166
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: have not scored twenty five points in the CREA game. Correct,

1167
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: So running wild that turn of phrase implies the potential

1168
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: to score twenty five or more points. They've scored fourteen, seventeen,

1169
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four, and twenty. They lost to both

1170
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: Mississippi State and Alabama. These last couple weeks.

1171
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: That's correct.

1172
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: Coming off of a bye. I just think South Carolina

1173
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: is going to be up for this game. And I

1174
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: don't love Spencer Rattler, but they've been more surprising and

1175
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: decent enough on defense. And if you're decent enough on defense,

1176
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of plenty to beat Texas A and M.

1177
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: Texas A and M has a tough stretch after this game.

1178
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: There's look ahead potential there, right, isn't that Ole miss

1179
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: in Florida Like some bigger program some higher profile programs,

1180
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: Texas A and M does nothing if not played down

1181
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: to and compete with whoever they play.

1182
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: No, right, I guess you know that's just where we're rejuice.

1183
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: I think there's more more to squeeze from South Carolina.

1184
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: I think there's more juice there, and I think there

1185
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: are more ways to win. You saw the way they

1186
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: ran the ball against Kentucky. Even though A and m's

1187
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: is stout up front, I just don't think there's going

1188
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: to be a lot of energy from A and M

1189
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: in this one. So even though it is the Kenny

1190
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: Hill September Heisman Game, if you remember all those years back,

1191
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: it was a Thursday night game. I want to say

1192
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: in was it in South Carolina?

1193
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: Within Columbia. I'm West South Carolina here, all right.

1194
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: I think they are more locked in team right now.

1195
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: I think there's more belief on the sideline with South Carolina.

1196
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: I think they are a team in the second year

1197
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 2: of Shane Beemer that is growing into a better team

1198
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: and in a better direction than Texas A and M

1199
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: is And if that defense is at least okay, I

1200
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: don't love the A and M passing attack against it.

1201
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: I think that's all fair. I'm well South Carolina, it's

1202
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: all fair. That's all I got, Dan, that's all you have.

1203
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: That's all I got.

1204
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's talk about some other games that

1205
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: are interesting and good.

1206
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: Give me the run.

1207
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: Washington will probably be Bowl eligible against a woeful col team.

1208
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: That's Pack twelve after dark. That's Washington the road though,

1209
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: So who knows. We have Pitt Louisville. Yeah, he can

1210
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: get to five and two, a very quiet five and

1211
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: two with all the injuries that they've and the weirdness

1212
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: of their season, and you know, having a running back

1213
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: who can go for over three hundred yards. I think

1214
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: they'll be in good shape against Louisville.

1215
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: But who knows.

1216
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: They're Oregon State trying to get Bowl eligible against Colorado.

1217
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: Something tells me they will a very I think a

1218
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: quiet interesting G five weekend. You ceef East Carolina, you

1219
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: SeeU of course with the very dramatic game last week,

1220
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: and you see f John Recee Plumley finding grass, TI

1221
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: finding grass.

1222
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: I believe it, John Rice Plumley.

1223
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: Thankscuse me, John Rice Pumy, You're absolutely right. You're absolutely

1224
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: Rice and right. Who else do we have? I was

1225
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: looking through this earlier today. Hawaii Colorado State is one

1226
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: of the worst football games that will be fielded of

1227
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: the past decade. So if you are an adherent to

1228
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: the sicko style that this is your super Bowl, this

1229
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 2: is your Champions League, Championship, whatever, that that's a really

1230
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: bad game. They should give out a special trophy. What's

1231
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: the World Cup Trophy, the Bolognde or whatever. I got

1232
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: that wrong. I'm positive yeah you did. Yeah, but there

1233
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: should be something spectacular for that Perdue Wisconsin. Purdue never

1234
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: beats Wisconsin mother this year. This could be the year

1235
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: that's in Madison. Even still, I don't hate it. Liberty

1236
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: looking to get to seven wins against BYU I imagine

1237
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: they will wake looking to get eligible and get to

1238
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: six and one against BC. I imagine they will. Texas Tech.

1239
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: West Virginia is going to be wild. It's going to

1240
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: that's we talk about the havoc stat that is a

1241
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: havoc matchup West Virginia and Texas Tech. At any given moment,

1242
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: either of these teams can do anything. UNLV has easy

1243
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: skating this week, they look like they have an upstart

1244
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: from Indiana.

1245
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four and a half points.

1246
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: O man secret G five. We've got a great MAC

1247
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: game in Toledo, Buffalo. Toledo with a very nice, impressive

1248
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: comeback win last week against Kansas State Buffalo, also without

1249
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: a loss in conference.

1250
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: NYVE Houston.

1251
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: Navy's at least looking a little bit scrappier and Houston's disappointing.

1252
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: So games in Annapolis, it's just worth keeping an eye on.

1253
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: Indiana Rutgers not worth keeping an eye on. And Thursday

1254
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: we have Virginia Georgia Tech. I wouldn't watch that because

1255
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: that means you'd have to watch Virginia attempt to play

1256
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 2: college football UAB Western Kentucky Friday night. That's quality as well.

1257
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: So I think in terms of there's football on. It's

1258
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: a pretty deep weekend. Obviously not with top top, top

1259
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: level Power five games, but there's a lot there.

1260
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: Well, it's tough to compare to Week seven because seven

1261
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: just had so much going on. Eight totally eight is

1262
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: still very very sound, very very solid. But there are

1263
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: a few breaks, a few moments throughout the cours. Agree

1264
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: when you can catch your breath, you.

1265
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: Want to drop some quick, big stanky fight for me,

1266
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: I would love it and rop why not?

1267
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: In twelve o'clock we've got buck now oh in.

1268
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Six, oh Man sick game versus.

1269
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: Lehigh one in six, Dan.

1270
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Okay, how many people in your mind in your estimation

1271
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: does the Lehigh stadium what's the name of that stadium?

1272
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: Goodman Stadium? Goodman Stadium? How many people does it sit?

1273
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: Does it sit ten thousand?

1274
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

1275
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: Is that pushing it?

1276
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: Seventy five hundred? Goodman Stateia? Now it's it looks like

1277
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: it's sixteen thousand here, sixteen thousand.

1278
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have oh and six against the home team

1279
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Lehigh Mountain Hawks one in six.

1280
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: Will there be thirty one hundred people there? Yes? Yes,

1281
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: you think so.

1282
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: People go wild for Lehigh football, even.

1283
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: Spore into it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, God, they'll

1284
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: be there. I'm going Buck now here. Why not Georgetown

1285
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: at one and five? Colgate one in five? What is

1286
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: going on? You guys couldn't win any games against the

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Speaker 1: IVY League. Go Gators, baby, give me the Gators. You're

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: going Gators, Georgetown away from multi sport field. Come on,

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Speaker 1: just not the same team. Uh.

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Speaker 2: It hurts me to say this, but holy Cross, you

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01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to go see quality football in your

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01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: proverbial backyard.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: I do Holy Cross at six and oh setting up

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01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: the huge matchup against Fordham next. It's the next couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks. I think Lafayette in easton chance for an

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Speaker 2: upset here, look ahead, potential no for the Crossaders.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Cross Saders, you know that, always on Cross Saders.

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Speaker 1: I think Lafayette shocks the world. I really do tie.

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Speaker 2: This is the week you can't walk down any street

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Speaker 2: in America without people saying everyone's talking about.

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01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: The latte, Everyone's talking about the eddies. Yeah on everybody's lips.

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Speaker 2: I'm going Lafayette here out right, not even to cover

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: the spread that's going all over the place. If you've

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01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: been paying attention to the Sharps with this one. Well,

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Speaker 2: Lafayette at home in easton good show, Tie.

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Speaker 1: It's only a matter of time before one of us

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: and some of our stupidity ends up on one of

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: the Patriot League Instagram feeds, you know, like it's been

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01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: cut into a reel or something. Yeah, as a pump

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01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: up video to get ready for the buck Now or

1312
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: the George Town or the whatever matchup.

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Speaker 2: As long as I can approximate my voice. That's somewhere

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: between Bebop rock Steady and macho man Randy Stavage.

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Speaker 1: What they told us Leppards then nobody believed. Well, I'm

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: here to tell you the Crusaders haven't ever been to East.

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Speaker 1: That's more macho man. That's more macho man than I

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: think you're going for.

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Speaker 2: I agree, it's somewhere. Yeah, I gotta get back to

1320
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: my Bebop rock Steady era. I love the Patriot League.

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: I watched Patriot League games on. By the way, that UNLV,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame game.

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Speaker 1: It's a Peacock or Peacock game. Yeah, I can't wait

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01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: for that. I wait for the calls from Mama h

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Speaker 1: if you were to.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's on Peacock it's NBC's right, it's

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Speaker 2: NBC's streaming service. How many Notre Dame fans do you

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01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: think are going to start watching Notre Dame unlv on

1329
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: Peacock and then say to themselves what else? Peacocks friends

1330
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: watch the Office?

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01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: That's what That's what they're counting on.

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Speaker 2: Man, All right there, enjoy that? Are you going to

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: actually tune in?

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Speaker 1: I probably will for just a minute, Yeah, okay, I

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: probably will. I have to have. I'm invested now. I

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Speaker 1: want to see where this team goes, because, believe it

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: or not, there's some big games left in that Notre

1338
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: Dame schedule, notably Clemson and USC, so I would like

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01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: for them to be competitive in those matchups. Though what

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Speaker 1: we've seen over the last couple of weeks hasn't been

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: all that promising, But there is still a universe in

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: which maybe they can pull this thing together and get

1343
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,959
Speaker 1: their talent organized enough to put up something of a fight.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I really hope Notre Dame does the right

1345
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: thing and puts up billboards in every college town looking

1346
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: for a quarterback. What was the movie with Francis McDormand

1347
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: three billboard? I think I think Marcus Freeman and Notre

1348
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: Dame to do like a billboards across America. Quarterback question Mark,

1349
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: come out to South Bend, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: The job fair continues. All right, Thank you one, Thank

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Speaker 1: you all for downloading, for listening, for playing along with

1352
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: our madness at home. Dan, how's the backing up? You? Okay?

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: So far, so good.

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01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: It's just sort of like sore but not debilitating at

1355
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: the moment. I got to change out the ice pack.

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: I got to figure out some lunch. I gotta see

1357
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: if i can make it the entire day standing because

1358
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit and if I lay down

1359
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: getting up is the grunts that come out of my

1360
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: body when I try to get from a laying position

1361
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: to a standing position are almost alien in nature.

1362
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: Can you sleep standing up like a horse?

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm okay lying down. I didn't have a good

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: night's sleep last night. But yeah, I'm I'm worried about

1365
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: what it's going to feel like in the morning. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm icin. I'm advilling.

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Speaker 1: Ty.

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Speaker 2: You always have recommendations for dispensaries, so maybe I'll ask

1369
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: you about that off air. I gotta do something to

1370
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: keep myself comfortable.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you again to everybody for your support.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to go on out to Verbullers dot com.

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Speaker 1: V E R B A L L e r s

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Speaker 1: dot com. That is our patreon. We are always he's

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Speaker 1: cooking up a schemer two, so make sure you stay

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Speaker 1: tuned here to the Solid Verbal for more as the

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Speaker 1: weekend progresses. For that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildebrand, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for downloading, for listening, for always being so damn supportive.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you all soon. Stay solid peace