1 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: And now it's time for the b a q a 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: b a q the b a q A. I would 3 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: love if somebody made us a b a q a 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: theme song. I'm going to reach out to like Chris 5 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: and his wife again because they made my Budgetessa budget 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: liesta what was it? Look at me? A budget has 7 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: to breakdown theme song. 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny that you say that, because I 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: texted my little brother over the weekend. Uh is a musician, 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: you know, in his partum whenever he feels like yeah, 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, he used to go by Rain in college, 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: but he's dropped that moniker and now he's just whatever 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: he is. And he and he's in Atlanta, and I 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: was like, there's got to be some great you know, 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: yeah musicians in Atlanta. So he's on the lookout. I 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: don't want him to do it, but he's acting like, 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, this is like jingle. I don't really 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: do jingles. Oh, come on, Rain, he's very Yeah, he's 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: so sensitive about his music. I shouldn't even be talking 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: about it. 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm it's amazing. 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm pissed at me. 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm sure it's amazing. Honestly, that would be great 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: to have a Baqa theme song. I mean, just a 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: prohibition theme song in generad would be awesome. 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: I mean, but hearing you sing it is never get. 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: All right, we have questions. If you have questions, we 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: semight have answers that are not to be taken as 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: professional answers. They're really supposed to be answers that you 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: know you could take with the grain of salt and 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: then reach out to the Yeah it's just for fun sies, Yeah, exactly, 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: suit your grandma. All right, So first question, I read 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: the right question. Bianca says, Hello, ladies, love your show. 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for giving out the wonderful advice you provide 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: for free every week. A few years ago, I got 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: into some serious debt and eventually used a financial debt 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: services company to get it paid off. All of the 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: accoun were settled. There were seven credit cards total. My 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: credit score dropped a bit low, and now it's a 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: six fifty. That's actually not bad, siss. I was wondering 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: what might be the best way to increase my credit score. 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Now I know now the mistakes I made before, so 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to use credit. But I wasn't sure 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: what the best method would be, so it could be, Yanka, 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: I have a bunch of things. But what do you think, Mandra. 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Well, I thought maybe because I know you talk about 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: this a lot. So as far as settling accounts that 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: stays on your credit report as well, does that take 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: like seven years to fall off? 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: It does? 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's a few years in so it's been 52 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: there for a minute. Yeah, that was my first question 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: because I'm just curious how all of that works. 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Well for two years, it will It'll be things are 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: most harmful or helpful within the first two years. So 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: after two years, it doesn't mean that it's not there, 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: but it doesn't play as big of a role on 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: your score. 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she says, I know now the mistakes I made 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: before so afraid to use credit, but I wasn't sure 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: what the best method would be. Listen, learning from your 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: mistakes is good because seven credit cards is a lot 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: and having to go through the stress of getting that, 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: you know, even if you're you handle it, which is great, 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: like you take care of business, you know. My first 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: thought went to a secured credit card, me too, Yeah, 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: here ay, because with a secured credit card, it's it's 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: complete opposite of a regular credit card, which is unsecured, 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: which means that you don't have to put up any money. 70 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: They just give you account. They give you a credit 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: card with with the with the limit, and you know, 72 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: they take your word that you won't that if you, 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, use the card, that you'll pay it back. 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: With a secured card, they require a deposit upfront, and 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, you put that money, let's say it's five 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 2: hundred dollars or whatnot, you give it to the bank 77 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: and they hang on to it and that is their 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: collateral and they basically issue you a quote unquote line 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: of credit in that amount, and then you can use 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: that card to make a purchase here and there, and 81 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: then you pay it back. And if at the end 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: of your term, like what is it usually a year, 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: m right, they will return your deposit to you or 84 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: they'll hang on to it. If you didn't make your 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: bills on time, hopefully they returned the deposit to you. 86 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: And well what happens is month to month they will 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: report that good behavior to the credit bureaus. So it 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: can help you, it can help you rebuild. That's one idea. 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: So another idea, because credit bureaus like to see like 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: you have different types of debt that you've managed. So 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: credit card debt is called revolving debt because it never 92 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: really closes, just keeps revolving. Right, So there's also I 93 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: just had at the tip of my tongue it's revolving debt, 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: and then it's not I'm not stationary, no evolving debt. 95 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: Basically loans, but I forget the technical term for loans. 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Basically it's it's debt that you pay that you pay 97 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: off installment installments. I was gonna say yes. For some reason, 98 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking departments. I don't know why, department. I 99 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: was like the department store, ya sidebar? What I text 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: you to be like Mandy, where are taping? It, says mandrake, 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: And I meant to say mandra but for some reason, 102 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: my my autocorrect was like mandrake. 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: I was like, oh lord. 104 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's just how my brain is working today. 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Installment loans, So, an installment loan was basically any loan 106 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: that like, you pay off an installment. So think mortgage, 107 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: think car note, think student loan dead you know, so 108 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: one way you can do an installment loan that is 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I call it like the loan fake out is they 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: call the credit builder loan. So for example, they're company 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: like like a a self. They used to call themselves 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: self lender, right, so, but also credit unions have these 113 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: two So if you're part of a credit union, they 114 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: likely have a credit builder loan. But if you don't 115 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: self as a company that you might look into. So 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: the way it works is you say, hey, credit union 117 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: or self or whatever, I want to do a credit 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: builder loan, and they say, okay, you choose the lowest amount. 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: That's just my suggestion. And I know on self is 120 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. I think I don't know what it 121 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: is at credit unions, but let's just pretend it's too hundred. 122 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: They let you borrow two hundred dollars, but you're not 123 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: actually going to get the two hundred. They're actually going 124 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: to keep that two hundred for you in a savings 125 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: account or a money market account, but still on the books, 126 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: it looks like you borrowed it, and then over the 127 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: course of a year, you're going to pay that money 128 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: back each month, you know, So if it's five hundred dollars, 129 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: divide five hundred dollars by twelve months and at the end, 130 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: so one it says, hey, it's Bianca, right, Hey, right, 131 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 1: Bianca borrowed money and she pays it back monthly on time, 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: and at the end of the year, she paid it 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: off in full. So you get these like these boosts 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: of like she paid it off and she paid on 135 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: time and so and then at the end of that year, 136 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: you get your two hundred dollars back, plus the little 137 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: bit of interest it accrued, you know, because you remember 138 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: you never actually got your money, but you paid it back. 139 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: And so people sometimes use these credit builder loans also 140 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: as for savings. So I remember I did this whole push. 141 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: We're like in November, Like, hey, sign up for a 142 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: credit builder loan in November if you're looking to raise 143 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: your credit. So by this time next year, not only 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: will you have your money in time for the holidays, 145 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, like your lump sum back, but you'll also 146 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: have a better credit score to go into the holidays with, 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: which is great. And so that's another tool that you 148 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: can use to raise your your credit score, because, like 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I said, credit reporting companies like to see that you 150 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: have a variety of ways that you've borrowed, and so 151 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: revolving that installment loans are two different ways. Here's like 152 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: a trick that I will tell you how to how 153 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: to really boost up your the credit card, the security 154 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: credit card that Mandy mentioned, put your lowest bill on it. 155 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: So the gym membership that you know you don't use, 156 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: Netflix that you know you do use, put the cheapest 157 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: bill on it. And you're going to say, Hey, Netflix, 158 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I want you to charge my secured card every month. 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: And then you're going to say, hey, bank account, I 160 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: want you to pay this card off every month. And 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: that card you're not using it for anything else. It's 162 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: not to leave the house, it's not to leave the drawer. 163 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: It's just sits somewhere inside your drawer and gets paid 164 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: off every month automatically. Because when you pay off a 165 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: debt in full, Bianca, it's like the credit score agencies 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: do like a happy dan. It's like, oh gobiyanka, go byada. Now, 167 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: whether it's five dollars fifty five hundred five thousand, it's 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: not so much to the amount. It's the habit of 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: paying off a debt in full that jumps your credit score. 170 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: But you want to be mindful that you don't pay 171 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: it off too early. So you're gonna say, hey, credit card, 172 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: what's my statement date, Like, what's the day that you 173 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: actually tell the credit bureas bianca use the card because 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: you want them to tell that you use the card, 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: so they can also tell that you paid it off. 176 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: If you paid off too soon, they never get a 177 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: chance to say that you made you know, you made 178 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: a good choice. So you want to pay off the 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: card after the statement date, but by the due date. 180 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: People always get confused by that. So I think the 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: date is so. 182 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: Hard on purpose. It's not y'all's fault that this stuff 183 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: seems difficult, because it is. They make it hard. It's 184 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: like the best way to get a good credit score 185 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: is to like use the tools and know how they work, 186 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: but then like, I mean, know how they work, but 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: never use them, and if you do use them, use 188 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: them a specific way. 189 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it ish could be really overwhelming, But I'm telling 190 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: if you do those three things, get yourself a secured 191 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: card paid off every month in full automatically, and potentially 192 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: get a credit builder loan automatic and automate those payments 193 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: as well, then you should see your credit score, which 194 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: is actually not that bad. A seven six point fifty 195 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: is not terrible because seven forty is the beginning of 196 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: perfect credit, So you should you know, you should? You 197 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: know see like some movement. I can't tell you when 198 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: because your credit score is like a GPA, so we'd 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: have to know all your other grades. But just know 200 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: that any A you get which is paying off in 201 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: full or paying in general, any A you get is 202 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: going to offset any f you might have gotten previously. 203 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: I love that GPA analogy. I steal it from you 204 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: all the time. 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, give your credit though, I give you credit. 206 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: It's fine, absolutely, and just let time do the rest, 207 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: because you're a few years away from having those settlements 208 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: fall off your which sounds like a long long time, 209 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: but hopefully it'll go by quickly. All right, miss Bianca, 210 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: thank you for your question. Let me move on to 211 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: this this doozy of a question from listener Jennifer Colin 212 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: or colin In emailing us from the Bay Area in 213 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: San France. So she and her hubby are thinking about 214 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: buying a house. I think this question is good, so 215 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: I've highlighted the essentials. Let me let me get into it. 216 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: Because Jennifer was she was very detailed. I'll leave it 217 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: at that, all right. Jennifer says, I love love, love 218 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: brown ambition not only the good advice and thoughts, but 219 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: you're both just a lot of fun and inspiring to 220 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: listen to each week. Thank you, Jennifer alrighty, she says. 221 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: My husband and I are in our late thirties. We 222 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: live in the San Francisco Bay area and we're currently 223 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: saving for our first home as our next big goal. 224 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: Our household income has jumped from about one fifty a 225 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: year to three sixty five a year almost two years ago, 226 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: and we are making a sizable but late push for 227 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: retirement in college savings. For our two chill trend. Right now, 228 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: we have about two hundred and thirty thousand dollars earmarked 229 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: for a down payment, and that doesn't include our emergency fund. Okay, 230 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: pause for the snaps. Very impressive, but here's a problem. 231 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: We live in a very wealthy area of Silicon Valley 232 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: where even for a teardown home, we're looking at under 233 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: two million dollars for that tear home teardown home. Unless 234 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: my husband's startup gets acquired, which is a real possibility, 235 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: we'll have to move to a more affordable area to 236 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: buy a house. But as I approach forty, I really 237 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: want that house. In all caps, growing up in a 238 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: black household. Home ownership was a big symbol of security 239 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: and prosperity, and I'm disappointed that I have not achieved 240 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: this milestone yet. I have this crazy idea that we 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: should buy a house in the East Bay area and 242 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: purchase a cute bungalow for one point two million dollars. 243 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: We can rent it out or just keep it until 244 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: we're ready to make our next move. I'm nervous that 245 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: home prices will go up and up and up and 246 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: may become out of our reach. All caps again, am 247 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: I Cray? Cray? Would you go for it and start 248 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: looking or just wait to see what life looks like 249 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: in two to three years. Jennifer, Jenny from the Block. 250 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Isn't it a damn shame that you can have all 251 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: this money and still behind? 252 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: That's what's crazy. 253 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 2: This country is crazy. 254 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: It is crazy. Yeah, well this is really I'm full 255 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: of emotions, Jenny, because don't be fool by the rock 256 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: so that I got, I'm still I'm still Jenny from 257 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: the Block. I love that. Jenny. 258 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: My mom, my, mom, mom. 259 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: Okay, we gotta work it out. We gonna let's just 260 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: talk talk it through because I don't have it. Sometimes 261 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: I have a definitive yes no, so one congratulations for 262 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: having that money saved. I because to your point, I 263 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: actually was just watching, like reading this article. I forget 264 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: where how although people left California, a lot of people 265 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: are coming back now, you know post like you know quarantine. 266 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: So yes, although you know, certainly a lot of tech 267 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: companies moved out, but there's still a lot of people there. 268 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: So I don't know that home people keep talking about 269 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: a home, you know, home prices crashing, just like the 270 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: Great Recession. But the truth is, we have very a 271 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: very different set of circumstances than we had during the 272 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: Great Recession that are not that are not. I'm not 273 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: saying that there won't be a home correction, which is 274 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: when people's houses that they bought for a lot of money, 275 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, go back to the price that they should 276 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: have been. But I don't know that we're not this 277 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: is not what it should be because one, our interest 278 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: rates are significantly lower than during the Great Recession, and 279 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: we don't have a bunch of people with bad loans 280 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: like they did with the Great Recession because after the 281 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: Great Recession there was all this legislation put in place, 282 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: so we're not in the same position. So I don't 283 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: know that. I don't know because part of me is 284 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: like maybe just finding like you know how sometimes you can, 285 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: like you can live in New York, or you can 286 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: come on over to Newark and get something more affordable 287 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: and that's not too far out. That's probably where I 288 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: lean into. I like the idea of you know, getting 289 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: something to start. But know this, if you're going to 290 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: qualify for an FAH loan, which is a federally backed 291 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: like mortgage, you have to be a new home buyer 292 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: within within the last three or four years. Meaning so 293 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: let's just say what you could do is say the 294 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: first home I can get under my name, if you can, 295 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: if you're able to get a mortgage with just you, 296 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: so that way you can get the because I think, faha, 297 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: the down payment is only like three point five percent, 298 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: which is a significant drop to the twenty percent that 299 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: a regular traditional loan will require of you. And then 300 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe when you're ready, your husband gets the next one. 301 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's my only thing is that, like, 302 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: if you that I don't want that. You know, if 303 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I was going to get my first house, I would 304 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: think to myself, I would like to get a house, 305 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: maybe that is something with more than one unit, so 306 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: I can take advantage of the fach loan and then 307 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: potentially pull money out of that house to get the 308 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: next one. So I'm I'm conflicted. I think home ownership 309 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: is a cornerstone for wealth in the United States for 310 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: the most part. I know, we hear people say that 311 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: that's not true, but the truth is when you shake 312 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the numbers out at the end oftentimes that it just 313 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: is true. But at the same time, I don't want 314 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: you guys to like drown yourself and be house you know, 315 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: house poor. 316 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah, I think I just keep going back 317 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: to the part where she says, you know, growing up 318 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: at a black household, home ownership was a big symbol 319 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: of security and prosperity, and I'm disappointed that I've not 320 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: achieved that milestone yet. Go easy on yourself. I mean, 321 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: you guys have achieved a lot. You have a two 322 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: year old, you have two children's nine two children's two 323 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: kids ages nine and twelve, and you've managed to still 324 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: build this incredible nest egg, this incredible amount of money 325 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: that you have for your down payment, not including your 326 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: emergency fund, and you've started their you know, college savings, 327 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: and it sounds like your husband's in a position to 328 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: unlock even more wealth if his startup gets acquired. I know, 329 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: it's a huge if. The thing is, I think when 330 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: it comes to making big personal finance decisions, at the 331 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: end of the day, there's a there's a combination of 332 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: the what ifs, and there's a common and there's like 333 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: you have to find the happy ground between uncertainty and 334 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: the information that you have now and your your personal 335 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: goals and your personal happiness. And I think at a 336 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: certain point, especially buying a home is one of the 337 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: most is one of the greatest examples of this and 338 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: where it can all be really difficult to balance out 339 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: because I don't think there's for a lot of people 340 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: it is the single most expensive purchase you're ever going 341 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: to make. It's always going to be fraught, and I 342 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: think the more educated we get about the housing market 343 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: and the ups and downs of it, there is more fear. 344 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: You know, am I making the right decision? Is it 345 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: actually going to be a good investment? I think if 346 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: you guys, if you look at it as you know, 347 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: we have the information that we have today, we are 348 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: going to look at, you know, look at the comps 349 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: in our area and buy a reasonably priced home relative 350 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: to the market that we're in. And we're not going 351 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: to you know, we're not going to cut ourselves off 352 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: at the knees financially in order to afford this home 353 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: just because we think we need it. But if you're 354 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: doing it because you have children, you want to be, 355 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, in a good school district, you want this 356 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: certain lifestyle, you want the stability that comes with home ownership, 357 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: and you have the finances to pull it off and 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: still have room to reach your other goals like retirement, 359 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: like college shavings, your emergency fund. Then I feel like 360 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: you have you have enough good information, you have enough 361 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: good reasons to want to own a home, and if 362 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: you have the opportunity and you feel like it's a 363 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: good time for you, guys, you have to just kind 364 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: of make peace with that decision and the fact that 365 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: you will not have all the information. There is no 366 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: crystal ball. You can make the best decision with the 367 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: information you have today, and then you've got to just 368 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: like let it go, let it go, and try to 369 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: be mindful of how to protect yourself against certain situations. 370 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: Down the line. Like Tiffany said, you know, look at 371 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: you just because you have two hundred and thirty k 372 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: for a downpaymentant to put all of that down, It 373 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: may make you more competitive as a bar or as 374 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: a buyer in your market. But you know, you don't 375 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: have to put every dollar down. You can save some 376 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: to have as a slash, like an emergency fund for 377 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: your for just for your home itself, or for those 378 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: repairs or remodeling you might want to do. But as 379 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: far as you're nervous, having nervousness around home prices will 380 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: just go up and up and up and eventually become 381 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: out of our reach. I think that's a real yeah, 382 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: that's a real understandable fear, especially in a place like 383 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: San Francisco. And I don't think that your Craig Kray 384 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: at all to start looking for homes now. It's kind 385 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: of like what Tiffany said about pricing out that range Rover, like, 386 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: don't talk yourself out of it until you do the legwork. 387 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: You know, go see the homes. Are there even homes 388 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: that you want to buy out there? Do you does 389 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: it make you excited and happy to look at them? 390 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: And do they give you do they help you. You 391 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: said that you're really happy now your kids are in 392 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: a school, a good school, and yeah, your husband has 393 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: a short commute, Like those things matter. So to get 394 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: what you want in a home, what are you sacrificing 395 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: any of the things that already make you? Guys so happy? 396 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: And you really want to know that until you're looking 397 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: that was good? Was that good? 398 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: It was great? It was endous? Even got it? No, no, no, 399 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: I don'd say that was I don't even have anything 400 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: to add to that, honestly, because I to your pot, 401 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: I was on the fence. It's like, because the truth is, 402 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that, Mandy. I'm like, Okay, I 403 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: love our house here in Newark, but I'm not gonna lie. 404 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: It's still new work, and so we're considering moving to 405 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: like a different neighborhood, you know, a different city. I 406 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: know people are like, no, the mayor's wife is going 407 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: to be like, Tiffy, what did I tell you? 408 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: You can't? 409 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: But I would still keep this house here because sis, 410 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: it's paid off. We will just rent it out. But 411 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I just been struggling with like, wait, it's the market 412 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna drop? Should I wait? Should I not wait? Because 413 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: right now it's so crazy. You know, I just been 414 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, doubled you know, that double Dutch entrance, like 415 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. But you the advice 416 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: that you just gave Jennifer was really great. Like I 417 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: haven't even really looked, so how do I know, you know, 418 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: we might find something and we're like, oh, oh my gosh, 419 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: this is really perfect. Because me and Superman have been 420 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: really talking about that. They're like, you know, they're just like, 421 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: this is the best part of Newark, but still Newark 422 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: be Newark, and sometimes. 423 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: You still got to walk around with the taser in 424 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: your pocket right exactly off the neighborhood dog for dogs 425 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: or men. 426 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was like so but I've been in 427 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: that same spot where I'm like, okay, we've got the money. 428 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: It actually is a really easy commute for Superman. You know, 429 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: like we're right down the street from my sister, which 430 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: is great. One of my really like my one of 431 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: my closest friends was around the corner. So there's other 432 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: things here that make living here so great. So I 433 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm on the fence, you know, because I 434 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: also I'm like, oh, price is just gonna go up, 435 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: so Jennifer, I'm right with you. I'm still on the fence, 436 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: but I think the best advice that Mandy gave was 437 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: just start looking. You start looking, and you know, because 438 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: you might find actually these neighborhoods are not that much better, 439 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: or oh my gosh, I love it here and it's 440 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: worth you know, it's worth not being as close. 441 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, you will not know until you start 442 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: looking and you have the money in the bank to 443 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: where if you just you can be comforted knowing when 444 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: you go out there, it's not like you're going to 445 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: find something that you couldn't necessarily afford. Like if you 446 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: find your dream home, it sounds like you guys are 447 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: in a position to go there. I would just say, 448 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: you know, find a realtor who keeps you within your budget. Yeah, 449 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: cause you know, you don't need to be out there 450 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: looking at things you can't have. Like the first ten 451 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: minutes of the What's the Property Brothers show, where the 452 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: first ten minutes they take the homeowners to the dream 453 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: home and you just ask they can't afford it. It's like, 454 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: why do you do this to these people? 455 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 456 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: Best anyway, Yeah, but you have to yes, price it out, 457 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: walk in the home, see how it feels, and be 458 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: open to the idea that your family's perception of home 459 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: ownership is not the holy grail of finance as it 460 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: may seem. And that can be okay. It can be 461 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: okay to rent. But if your dream is to have 462 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: a home and you want that stability and you don't 463 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: care about retiring and Portugal or wherever else, everyone retires 464 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: early and never gets a home and you know, invest 465 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: all their money in the market, that's not the lifestyle 466 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: for you. That's fine, you do not, It's it's completely 467 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: fine to just you know, be happy, have your home 468 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: and reach whatever goals you guys have. 469 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, well I've grown decisions. If you've got questions, 470 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: like Bianca and Jenny from the Block, you can ask them. Sis, bro, 471 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that's sounds weird. 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