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Speaker 1: Thursday night, December thirtieth, Yes, the year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. For the last time. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of blue in the studio tonight. Look, we were out

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Speaker 1: doing live hits today. We've been all around Miami and

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Speaker 1: trust that I could make it back to the hotel

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Speaker 1: to get the white T shirt which was at the

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Speaker 1: dry cleaners. Just got it back, and so I made

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Speaker 1: the executive decision to just sport the CBS Sports HQ

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Speaker 1: Blue Polo. Then I got here and I realized, you idiot,

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Speaker 1: you're an Eastern time I was working off Central time.

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Speaker 1: In Central Time, we start this show at seven o'clock,

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Speaker 1: so I had time to take a nap. As it

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Speaker 1: turns out, but we got a lot to get to tonight.

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Speaker 1: We are jam packed. We are twenty four hours away

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Speaker 1: really less now, if you think about it, from the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff. We will be on the field here

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Speaker 1: at the Orange Bowl for Georgia Michigan. We are going

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Speaker 1: to talk a lot about that tonight. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: looking as we speak at so many thoughts scribbled here

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Speaker 1: because I was upstairs just as you have been in

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Speaker 1: the last hour, and I was watching the Music City

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Speaker 1: Bowl and I live in Nashville, and that game was

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, and I know that robbery is illegal downtown,

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Speaker 1: especially robbery is illegal. And it happened to Tennessee. Now

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Speaker 1: you know, we were on Purdue plus the points on

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Speaker 1: the Ramannuddle Express. But man, we didn't want to win

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Speaker 1: that way, but it happened. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: bulls in just a second. There was a war on

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Speaker 1: bowls out there, my friends up to an including being

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Speaker 1: waged by someone perhaps employed by this very company. We

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Speaker 1: pull no punches. There's no logo on this polo. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think we have something there. We'll workshop that.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to open the inbox tonight. We ended

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Speaker 1: the show the other night with Q and A, and

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Speaker 1: we got such great reception from that that we're going

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Speaker 1: to pretty much do the last three quarters of the

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Speaker 1: earlier today. I got a whole lot of good stuff,

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Speaker 1: stuff that we would have talked about if we just

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Speaker 1: stacked to show ourselves anyway. But as I said, We're

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Speaker 1: live here in Fort Lauderdale slash Miami. We've been all

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Speaker 1: around South Florida all day and all week. A couple

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Speaker 1: of things I've learned. I need a yacht. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just I need a yacht really bad. And secondly,

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Speaker 1: those iguanas don't give an inch. We were trying to

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Speaker 1: an iguana, which for someone from Georgia is essentially a dinosaur.

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Speaker 1: And then one of our buddies, Jake Row with Dogs

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, recounted a tale of his own

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Speaker 1: with one of these iguanas down here. They're all over

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Speaker 1: the place, Like if you live in Georgia, your squirrels

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Speaker 1: are South Florida's iguanas. They can run on their hind legs.

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Speaker 1: They can run really fast, and they're aggressive and they

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Speaker 1: They won't bite you. I don't think, at least haven't

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Speaker 1: here another month, but we can't do that. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to tonight, So let's dive into

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Speaker 1: the show. So much ratchetness going on in the world

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Speaker 1: So this morning you probably woke up like I did,

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Speaker 1: And if you've got contacts like me, you don't automatically

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Speaker 1: you probably saw that our buddy Danny Canell has chosen

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Speaker 1: to look at this if you're watching on YouTube, quote

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Speaker 1: from Daniel. If this year has taught us anything, it's this,

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Speaker 1: forty two bowl games is too many. It's not even

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have labeled a hate speech to suggest

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Speaker 1: that Bowl games can be meaningless. We don't believe in that.

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Speaker 1: We never have, we never will. Bowl games are a special,

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Speaker 1: with Danny Canell today, let's just dive into this. We

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Speaker 1: it's hilarious. This is Danny talking. I think it's hilarious

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Speaker 1: New testament. Hate the tweet, love the tweeter. That's what

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Speaker 1: The too many Bowl games crowd. It's as easy and

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Speaker 1: Lifetime movies. I've never been a fan of them, outside

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Speaker 1: forcing you to watch them. This is a free country,

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Speaker 1: That's been the long and short of my take on

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Speaker 1: the whole too many bowl games crowd. But Danny did

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Speaker 1: is me. He's saying that, Well, why don't you have

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Speaker 1: the reason. It wouldn't matter if we tacked on fifteen

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Speaker 1: a second. So then Daniel goes further. He's been on

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Speaker 1: a war path today. The third thing that he said is,

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Speaker 1: h here's his fix, expand the playoffs contract the bulls.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty uh, well, you know I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 1: expanding the playoffs. We do have a question coming up later.

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Speaker 1: If I were made the commissioner and we had to

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Speaker 1: I don't stand for it at all. Expanding the playoff

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Speaker 1: We don't get to see an SEC squad in the

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Speaker 1: Rose Bowl unless it's a playoff game. So the Rose

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Speaker 1: bowls an interesting concept there, because even if we were

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Speaker 1: to adjust the conference tie ins, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Rose Bowl would adjust. And I used to trash the

433
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Speaker 1: Rose Bowl a lot. And I was younger, and I

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Speaker 1: was I was well a little studupiter and I didn't

435
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Speaker 1: really get it. The Rose Bowl has stuck to tradition.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, they have clung to it, and it is

437
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Speaker 1: Big ten and it is PAC twelve, and that's what

438
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Speaker 1: it's going to be until the playoff rotates through there.

439
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Speaker 1: But by and large it's going to be Big ten

440
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Speaker 1: versus PAC twelve. And I used to think to myself,

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Speaker 1: they need to get with the times, you know, they

442
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: need to they need to roll with the punches, they

443
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Speaker 1: need to roll with the changes. They need to get

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Speaker 1: on board or get left behind. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we fast forward a few years and I look at

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Speaker 1: how quickly some of the powers that be in this

447
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Speaker 1: sport have thrown tradition into the wood chipper. And I

448
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Speaker 1: look out at the Rose Bowl and I tip my

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Speaker 1: cap to him. I say, good for you, guys, good

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Speaker 1: for you. Look, I grew up in the South. Selfishly,

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Speaker 1: I would love to see Alabama or LSU or South

452
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Speaker 1: Carolina whoever. I would love to see them with an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl, because I think

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Speaker 1: it's as awesome a setting as anyone else does. But

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate, like I never used to do, they're

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Speaker 1: clinging to some sibilant of what used to be in

457
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Speaker 1: college football. See, what used to be is not always

458
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Sometimes that it is and you need

459
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Speaker 1: to change. Sometimes you had it right all along and

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Speaker 1: you didn't need to change. I think the Rose Bull

461
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Speaker 1: thinks they're in the latter category there, But outside of

462
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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, I'm willing to make them the exception

463
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Speaker 1: to the rule. Yeah, yeah, I would like to see

464
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Speaker 1: every conference affiliation outside of the Rose Bowl with all

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Speaker 1: of these bowl games just reshuffled entirely. Like we don't

466
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Speaker 1: get SEC Pac twelve. They're just matchups we don't get.

467
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else I'd love to do. If

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Speaker 1: you're letting me restructure bowl season. I would love to

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Speaker 1: seed bowls evenly right now. I mean, I got an

470
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Speaker 1: inbox full of folks who are asking me, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I guess I guess you were wrong about the SEC,

472
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Speaker 1: right And I'm like, what are you talking about? And

473
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Speaker 1: I already know where they're going, And they say, well,

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Speaker 1: look look at the SEC's bowl record, Like what do

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Speaker 1: I care about that? For those of you who have

476
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Speaker 1: been tuned into this show more than one year, you

477
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Speaker 1: know and probably remember vividly, there have been years where

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Speaker 1: the SEC has dominated bull season and I've come on

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Speaker 1: the ear I could have conveniently use that as ammunition,

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Speaker 1: and I've said, look, I still believe what I believe

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Speaker 1: about the SEC. This bowl record has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with it. Like, I don't really care about the bowl record.

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Speaker 1: The reason I don't care is because bowl games cumulatively

484
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Speaker 1: even do not tell you nearly as much as you

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Speaker 1: think they do about relative conference strength. The only way

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Speaker 1: that that would be different is if you turned over

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Speaker 1: the reins to me. And as college football commissioner, I

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Speaker 1: took bowl season and I seeded it. So if you're

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Speaker 1: an SEC team and you finish fourth in the conference,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have you play the fourth place team

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Speaker 1: from another conference. And look, if you still have an

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Speaker 1: zero to whatever record, well then you had a down year,

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Speaker 1: or at least I'm a lot closer to think in that.

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Speaker 1: Still think bull records are a little anecdotal, but I'd

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Speaker 1: be a lot closer to thinking that. But right now,

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Speaker 1: we got a situation where like the Big Ten's number

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Speaker 1: two will beat the ACC's number six, and people say

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Speaker 1: Big ten superior. They may be it has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with that result. I would be if it were

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Speaker 1: the opposite, if the lower seeded teams were beating the

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Speaker 1: higher seeded teams from your conference. But yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: love to see a lot of those affiliations. Just redefine,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else, just redefine a CFB fan. Next up,

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Speaker 1: do you think the quick rebuild using the transfer portal

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Speaker 1: is a sustainable method? Michigan State's done this most recently,

506
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Speaker 1: and is it sustainable for new coaches to get competitive fast?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great option if you get it right,

508
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Speaker 1: but can absolutely see scenarios where it further hinders a

509
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Speaker 1: coach's culture they're trying to build. This is a good question.

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Speaker 1: So what he's saying essentially is take what Michigan State

511
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Speaker 1: did last year and this year, they just they pillaged

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal and they put together a darn good

513
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Speaker 1: team in the process. Is that sustainable, in other words,

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Speaker 1: is that just the way you could go about it,

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Speaker 1: or are there a lot of downsides? I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: view that as sustainable. No, I think there are a

517
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Speaker 1: ton of downsides, very slippery slope, because look, if you're

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Speaker 1: defining culture, it is really hard to define that with

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Speaker 1: one and done type guys. It's just it takes so

520
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Speaker 1: long for that to permeate. You got to have a foundation.

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Speaker 1: Your foundation will never be built on the transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: It's no different than a Christmas tree. You go get

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Speaker 1: the Christmas tree the same way you always have. If

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Speaker 1: you're going the real route, you either go to a

525
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Speaker 1: Christmas tree farm, or you go out there. If you're

526
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Speaker 1: really hardcore and you cut it down yourself and you

527
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Speaker 1: prop that thing up in your living room, then you

528
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Speaker 1: can go get all the pretty ornaments you want to.

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Speaker 1: The ornaments don't make the tree. The tree makes the tree.

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Speaker 1: Recruiting will always make a majority of your roster. Then

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Speaker 1: you can go get some nice, pretty Jameson Williams looking

532
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Speaker 1: ornaments to add on to it. But man, you really

533
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: better be nailing evaluation and development, and you better be

534
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Speaker 1: nailing the recruiting aspect at least enough, then you can

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Speaker 1: supplement some of the holes with the transfer portal. However,

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Speaker 1: I think I think some programs may have to learn

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Speaker 1: this the hard way, and I think what it equates

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Speaker 1: to in a lot of ways, Like in the fitness

539
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Speaker 1: what if you work out? You could take the pre

540
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Speaker 1: workout and I take one that's three hundred milligrams of

541
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Speaker 1: pure caffeine. It's like drinking really good flavored gasoline. It

542
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: gets you to the gym, it gets you in the gym,

543
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: and it gets you started. But if you don't really

544
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Speaker 1: have the drive, determination, the focus, etc. Or also the

545
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Speaker 1: workout plan, pre workout's not doing anything for you. Nor

546
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Speaker 1: is the transfer portal taking you to a conference championship

547
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: or the playoff, whatever your lofty goals may be. It's

548
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: a nice supplement, it is never the meal. Transfer portal

549
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: should never be the meal if you want long term

550
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: sustained success. See this is how the Late Kick Extra

551
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: podcast works. By the way we do them normally, we

552
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: do them every Tuesday morning, every Thursday morning. What you're

553
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: listening to right now, it is the format, and we

554
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: just go Q and A. It's as rapid fire as

555
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I can make it. Sometimes I'm really long winded. It

556
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: tends to happen when you sit here alone. But this

557
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: is the format. For those of you who have never

558
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: listened to that before, It's only podcast when we do it,

559
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Speaker 1: so give it a listen. Next up, Steve, very interesting question.

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Speaker 1: I have to word this carefully because Nick Saban gets

561
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Speaker 1: ahold of this stuff sometimes. Steve says, in the playoff era,

562
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Speaker 1: where do you rank this year's Alabama team among the

563
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Speaker 1: other Alabama teams? To make it is this year the

564
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: worst team of the bunch tells you everything you need

565
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Speaker 1: to know about Alabama. I think the data is incomplete here.

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Speaker 1: If we are defining what Alabama currently is by the

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Speaker 1: team we've seen so far this year, there were some

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Speaker 1: hiccups against Texas A and M. There were some near

569
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: stumbles against the likes of LSU in Florida. So yes,

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Speaker 1: if I'm defining the twenty twenty one Alabama team as

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Speaker 1: what we saw, let's just say the entire regular season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if this Bama team were to win a championship,

573
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Speaker 1: certainly I would favor every other championship team over this one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not the nine team, cause the style of football's changed.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think you realize how good Bryce Young

576
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Speaker 1: would be against nine Alabama until you saw it. But

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Speaker 1: that's another conversation for another day. But here's the point

578
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to make. What if we watch Bama this

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Speaker 1: Friday tomorrow and they just light Cincinnati up. Then they

580
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Speaker 1: go to the playoff and they win by two or

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Speaker 1: three scores, and they kind of do like if we

582
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Speaker 1: talked about the other day, what Clemson did in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: They have some ups and downs, but then they get

584
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: to the playoff and they're just shot out of a cannon. Well,

585
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Speaker 1: how do you define the twenty twenty one team? Is

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Speaker 1: it the team you saw in the playoff? The one

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Speaker 1: that played at the highest level when it mattered the most.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I say the date is incomplete right

589
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: now because I don't know what we're gonna see. I

590
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win by double digits tomorrow, and I listen,

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Speaker 1: here's what it's gonna be really fun. What's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really fun? Is you got I think a majority of

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Speaker 1: you you can answer me if I'm wrong here, tell

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, I'll just sense it. We're live,

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00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: I can't actually see you, but I'll sense it. If

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Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia were to score off for the National

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Speaker 1: Championship as soon as the final bell hits in tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and Orange Bowl and we've got the matchup, if I

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Speaker 1: were to ask you five seconds, give me a winner,

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Speaker 1: give me a winner, I think a majority of you

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00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: would pick Alabama, maybe a super majority, I don't know,

602
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: but that SEC championship will be so fresh in your minds,

603
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: and then the points spread would come out as we

604
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: sit here today. If nothing huge changes tomorrow and both

605
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: those teams win and it's Georgiabama and the championship game,

606
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: what do you think the line would be. It's already

607
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: available if you know where to look. George is going

608
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: to be favored over Obama again, not by seven, not

609
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: by six, but they will be favored over Alabama again.

610
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Speaker 1: And that's going to be really fun. Actually, I don't

611
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: think it'll be fun for a lot of you. I

612
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: think a lot of you are rooting for Michigan and

613
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: or Cincinnati. But if that matchup were to happen, it'd

614
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Speaker 1: be really interesting. Does it may have that same old dynamic.

615
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Speaker 1: I can assure you if Will Anderson thinks he's an

616
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Speaker 1: underdog against Cincinnati, a G five team that's total fourteen

617
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: points from Vegas into this game, he will think it

618
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: is literally him against the world and Neptune and Pluto,

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Speaker 1: rested Piece and everything else in the galaxy. When it

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Speaker 1: is them versus Georgia again, Well, I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of Clemson vibe to this year's Alabama team. Next

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Speaker 1: up is Sean. This is the question I mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: on in the show. This one's kind of painful, kind

624
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Speaker 1: of creative. It was good enough to get on the show.

625
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Speaker 1: Sean said, let's say the NCAA offers you the title

626
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Speaker 1: of college football Commissioner on the condition that you implement

627
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: some form of playoff expansion. What expansion format do you choose? Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I want to do. First thing I

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Speaker 1: want to do is I want to take another sip

630
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Speaker 1: of the protein caffeine cocktail here. It's really good. So, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the NCAA has the power to make

632
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Speaker 1: me college football commissioner, nor do I want them handing

633
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Speaker 1: me the scepter of college football Commissioner. I would love

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Speaker 1: to be elected as college football commissioner. And in a

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00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: perfect world, you guys do that. Notice we don't live

636
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Speaker 1: in a perfect world. This is no fairytale world Shaw

637
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: Shank quote of the show. But if I were to

638
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: get to define how exactly did we word this? You

639
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: get to be commissioner, but you have to implement some

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Speaker 1: form of playoff expansion. Well, I would make it as

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Speaker 1: minimal as possible. What I would do and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you so. Let me get my format, and then I'll

643
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Speaker 1: tell you my thoughts. I would go to a sixteen playoff,

644
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Speaker 1: not sixteen six team playoff, and I would give the

645
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Speaker 1: first two buys, no autobids, just the six highest ranked teams. Now,

646
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Speaker 1: our buddies at College Football Nerds have floated this format

647
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Speaker 1: out there. It's never going to happen if we expand

648
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Speaker 1: we're going to eight or twelve. But I would much

649
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Speaker 1: prefer as small a field as possible. I don't think

650
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: this would be totally detrimental to the regular season. I

651
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: prefer four. You could force this pill down my throat

652
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: and I probably wouldn't regurgitate it. Very graphic here's what

653
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Speaker 1: that would do. What that would do for the first

654
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Speaker 1: time is there would be a premium placed on those

655
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Speaker 1: one to two seeds because those teams will get first

656
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Speaker 1: round bys. And I also think that would give us

657
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Speaker 1: an opportunity maybe to get home field factored in and

658
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: we could have on campus playoff games, which should happen

659
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: either way. I probably should whisper that Orange Bowl has

660
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: been taking really good care of me this week. But

661
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: outside of that, I don't support any playoff expansion. But

662
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Speaker 1: you could sell me if you were really good on

663
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Speaker 1: a sixteen format where the top two seeds get a

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Speaker 1: buy and there's no auto bid. See a lot of

665
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: people when they float out the sixteen format and I go, oh,

666
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Speaker 1: that sounds cool. They say in the very next breath,

667
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, So you get it right, Power

668
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Speaker 1: five conference champs and a G five auto bid, and

669
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Speaker 1: then I say I'm out by Auto bids are Satan's

670
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: tool and they sound so good until you realize, oh,

671
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Speaker 1: they're not. Essentially, what that does is it suggests it's

672
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Speaker 1: impossible for two of the best six teams in the

673
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: country to reside in the same conference. All conferences are

674
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: are imaginary lines on a map. I could have four

675
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Speaker 1: of the top six teams in a division any given year.

676
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't support autobits. That's sixteen format, though

677
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Speaker 1: I don't think it'd be the worst thing in the world.

678
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Speaker 1: Next up our buddy buckets from down in Columbus, Fort

679
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: Benning nearby Fort Mitchell actually giving away way too much

680
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: personal info there, He said, why do the majority of

681
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Speaker 1: analysts believe Michigan will not be able to run the

682
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: ball effectively against Georgia best offensive line in college football? Yes,

683
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Speaker 1: they won the Joe More Award two one thousand yard rushers.

684
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: One did it in like eight or nine games, and

685
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: they've shown the ability to be creative in the run game.

686
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Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. He's right about this. You

687
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: know there's a good gift out there. He's right. You

688
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: know he is right. A lot of folks think Georgia

689
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Speaker 1: is gonna stone this run game of Michigan. Now, the

690
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Speaker 1: be part of that is if they're right about that,

691
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: they think that that is game over for Michigan's chances

692
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Speaker 1: of winning, because no one out there that I've heard,

693
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Speaker 1: aside from me, thinks that Michigan could have any success

694
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball in Georgia. I told you my path

695
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Speaker 1: to a Michigan victory, which I did not pick. I

696
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: picked Georgia to win narrowly pick Michigan to cover. So

697
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Speaker 1: I think there's a distinct possibility that anything happens convenient

698
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Speaker 1: for me. I know. I think one of the paths

699
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Speaker 1: for them could be that that Joe Moore Award winning

700
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Speaker 1: offensive line gives Cade McNamara a little bit more time.

701
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Now maybe they shine in run blocking. I think they

702
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: could shine in pass pro I think that if we

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Speaker 1: turn on this game, or I mean I'm at the

704
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: game tomorrow night, you're watching on TV, maybe you're here

705
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: in person, and you're watching Cave McNamara and there's not

706
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: bullets flying all around him, and he does have some

707
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Speaker 1: time to operate. Those running backs they could be every

708
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: bit as effective spilling out of the backfield as they

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Speaker 1: could be running halfback ISOs. There are a number of

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Speaker 1: ways for that running back tandem of Korn and Haskins

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Speaker 1: Korm and Haskins to operate effectively. So I don't even

712
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Speaker 1: the run game for Michigan. I would ask why do

713
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Speaker 1: people think the running back position won't be overly effective?

714
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Speaker 1: And if that's the question, my answer is, I don't know,

715
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Speaker 1: because there really hasn't been a spot this year where

716
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Speaker 1: they've failed to show up, especially in the bigger games

717
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: down the stretch. They showed up, showed up very well.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you something else. You go back and watch

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Speaker 1: Hassan Haskins midway through that Iowa game. There's a sequence

720
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Speaker 1: where there are two plays where he never gets his

721
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: hands on the ball and he is showing his ability

722
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Speaker 1: in blocking and he stones a blitzer and freeze up

723
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: time for I think it was McNamara at the time

724
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Speaker 1: to hit a tight end. They end up scoring on

725
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that drive, they end up putting the game out of reach.

726
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: There are so many facets to that Michigan ground game

727
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: that doesn't always just pertain to handing the ball off

728
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: to one of those guys. I think it's a key

729
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: obviously in this game. We talked about it a lot

730
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Speaker 1: today during our live hits. We'll talk about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I think we think we're doing two or three live

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Speaker 1: hits from the stadium. I'm really looking forward to that

733
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Speaker 1: aspect of this game. Let's fit one more in here.

734
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Speaker 1: I think we've got Aaron's question. So Aaron said, this

735
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Speaker 1: is a great way to end the show. How do

736
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Speaker 1: we get the people that hate college football out of

737
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: college football. I can't think of another sport that has

738
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Speaker 1: so many antagonists. Aaron used the word antagonist. We use

739
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: the word casuals. We capitalize the sea. We put the

740
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: registered trademark logo behind it, because even though Bud Elliott's

741
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: been telling you otherwise lately, we did originate that's saying

742
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: here last year, two years ago, five years ago. But

743
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: he's free to use it. Everyone's free to use it. Aeron,

744
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: This is a good question, my friend, very good question.

745
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Let me read it again, mainly because I'm trying to

746
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Speaker 1: buy myself time to make sure I don't say anything

747
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to regret. How do we get the people

748
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: that hate college football out of college football? Aaron, you're asking,

749
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: how do you get the people that don't like college

750
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: football out of college football? Stop listening to him, stop

751
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: reading them, watching them. I don't have to name names,

752
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: and really I have no business naming names. The reason

753
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: this show does so good is not because of any

754
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: talent I have or any fancy graphics the production team makes.

755
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Because the bottom line is, you could have a very

756
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: talented person sitting behind this mic. You could have multimillion

757
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: dollar facilities, and you could have the best graphics and

758
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: production team in the world. If you don't like it,

759
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: there's no product. It's off the air. The reason we've

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: been able to thrive is because you've accepted the show.

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00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: You've accepted the product. It's why I thank you profusely

762
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: because I know that. I remember when we were independent,

763
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: and I used to celebrate when we had twenty concurrent viewers.

764
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: Now we're in the thousands virtually every time we do

765
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: the show, some of them hit a six figure number.

766
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: It's big and it means something to us. Maybe everyone

767
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: else in the industry doesn't think that way, but that's

768
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: because we didn't come off the classic J school assembly

769
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: line like a lot of others did. There are some

770
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: people who took that classic, traditional route, and I think

771
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: do the best work in the industry. There are others

772
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: who I think are a stain on the industry. I

773
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: don't have any business naming the names because I shouldn't

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00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: control your opinion. You know what you think about me

775
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: or anyone else, but Aaron, you're asking me, what about

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00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: the folks that you think don't like college football who

777
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: are covering college football? I would tell you do the

778
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: same thing I do. Tune them out, tune them. I

779
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: never call him out by name. I just tune them out.

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00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: You know, you call him out by name, that's kind

781
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: of trying to put a fire out with gasoline. That's

782
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: not the way you do that. Like we're messing around

783
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: with canal today. I actually like Danny Cannell. I don't

784
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: think he hates college football. I think he's got a

785
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: swinging and sometimes garbage philosophy on some of the finer

786
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: points of the sport. Danny Cannell loves college football. There

787
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: are some folks covering the sport that do not like it. Now.

788
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if I could take you to the

789
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: Orange Boldemara and walk you through that press box pregame,

790
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: you'd see it. Some of them act like it's a

791
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: chore to be there. Other ones get down on their

792
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: knees and kiss the logo when they walk in the stadium.

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00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: We fit the ladder camp as opposed to the former camp.

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: Just ignore them, would be my answer. See, you ignore

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00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: a fly, it just hangs around. You ignore someone who

796
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: needs traffic to generate their relevance and garner a paycheck.

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00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: They kind of just disappear from the scene, and you

798
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: never really had to say a word about them, So

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Speaker 1: that would be my advice. I appreciate you guys because

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00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: I know that you're the reason we're here. Maybe some

801
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: other folks need to learn that lesson. I think that's

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00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: a good place stand the show tonight. I appreciate you

803
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: guys so much for watching. Remember we'll be on CBS

804
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Sports HQ tomorrow, myself, Dennis Dodd, Big Game. Dan's been

805
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: down here all week with us. We'll be at the

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl. Barrett Sialia's out at the Cotton Bowl. Oh man,

807
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you so, I'm not gonna complain about

808
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: this because it's pathetic to complain about getting free stuff.

809
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: We down here in Miami did not get a media

810
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: ping pong tournament, and they got one out in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say I would have run through

812
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: it like hot butter, but I would have. I absolutely

813
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: would have. And they gave away some sweet prizes. And

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00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: I love my time that we've spent down here, but

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00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: it hurts, it hurts me to my core that I

816
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: was not able to participate. I'm giving a heads up

817
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: to our friends in Indianapolis. We know some of you

818
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: guys personally, if you're looking to hit a home run

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Speaker 1: hosting the National Championship Media Ping Pong tournament, that's all

820
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Speaker 1: you need and let me serve. However, I want to

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Speaker 1: don't be righting rules, I don't want to go by

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Speaker 1: media Ping Pong tournament, or I don't care open it

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00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: up to the public. That's our show for tonight. Thank

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00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: you so much for watching. Make sure you're following on

825
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. I can assure you it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a really fun, potentially interesting day of content on

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Speaker 1: the social channels Tomorrow at late kick Josh, make sure

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Speaker 1: you're watching for our entire crew here, our entire crew

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Speaker 1: in Nashville. I'm Josh Pate. Thanks so much, a great

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Speaker 1: rest of your evening. Enjoy the playoff games tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Godless