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Speaker 1: We got Parker with me, my brother, We've got aunt
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Speaker 1: we do every week as we answer your questions. And
Speaker 1: really what we could do is we could answer any
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Speaker 1: a lot of them tend to be trending towards religion.
Speaker 2: Over the last year or so, they do.
Speaker 1: But what we're going to do is what do you
Speaker 1: remember the title I gave you for this podcast?
Speaker 2: Yes, deep State.
Speaker 3: Is changing the Bible.
Speaker 2: The Deep State is changing the Bible. It's our title, Parker.
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna be thinking about.
Speaker 1: So the discussion as we can move this chat towards that,
Speaker 1: the thought is this has the Bible changed? Can we
Speaker 1: trust it? Here's why I'm saying this. This came from
Speaker 1: a message I got on my YouTube channel from a
Speaker 1: podcast I did with Marshall, my pastor to Mais Marshall,
Speaker 1: and I did an episode about Trump. Did God Save Trump?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Someone messages to that to Marshall, and I says this quote.
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, I'm not looking for an argument.
Speaker 1: I believe in something, but I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: you might say.
Speaker 2: He says, the.
Speaker 1: Good Book has been changed so many times over the years.
Speaker 1: Parentheses just cross reference a really old book with a
Speaker 1: modern day book. So my question would be, is someone
Speaker 1: manipulating a genuine book. I think he's talking about the
Speaker 1: Bible here, obviously for potentially the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then he says, I.
Speaker 1: Hope there is because there's a few people I'd like
Speaker 1: to see again. I think he means to say, I
Speaker 1: hope there is a God, or I hope the Bible
Speaker 1: is true because there's a few people I'd like to
Speaker 1: see again.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: So the reason I wanted to talk about this, and
Speaker 1: the reason I said deep state, is because there's this
Speaker 1: idea that there's an entity out there, there's a group
Speaker 1: or a person that is beyond. It's bigger than the government,
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't be Joe Biden doing this. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the American government. It wouldn't be the King of England,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be even Constantine, the Emperor of Rome. It
Speaker 1: has to be bigger than that, because it's manipulating the world.
Speaker 1: Otherwise someone would catch on to it. This is all theoretical,
Speaker 1: but there must be somebody changing the Bible, this guy says,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a it's an argument that first
Speaker 1: of all, will completely squash, But second of all, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a good first thought if you're thinking
Speaker 1: about these things.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of conversations about deep state and what
Speaker 3: the deep state is or who the deep state is,
Speaker 3: especially around election time, there's always that conversation around this
Speaker 3: nondescript deep state. Who are they? In fact, I just
Speaker 3: saw in my feed on YouTube this morning something about
Speaker 3: deep state, and I don't know if it's because I
Speaker 3: had just entered all the information in for this live
Speaker 3: so it caught keystrokes and started serving me deep state stuff.
Speaker 3: But for it to lead to this seems seems about
Speaker 3: online it does changing everything else, Why not the Bible?
Speaker 1: So Jan Conley says, the Bible doesn't change. People try
Speaker 1: to change it. God is constant. Anna Mendoza says God
Speaker 1: is the same God from the Bible because he's the
Speaker 1: everlasting one. And then there's some discussions. Christy says the
Speaker 1: word of God does not change what the fluff says.
Speaker 1: There are so many manipulators now, and so to that
Speaker 1: to these people, and you know, we're kind of jumping
Speaker 1: in on this discussion.
Speaker 2: We say, yes, but.
Speaker 1: How do we know that practically, Like Jan says, the
Speaker 1: Bible doesn't change change. People try to change it, but
Speaker 1: God is constant. And then Anna says, God's the same
Speaker 1: God from the Bible. Okay, but how do we know that.
Speaker 1: Let's get let's get some practical reasons how we could
Speaker 1: know that. And let's use this episode of this podcast,
Speaker 1: at least the first half before we answer questions, so
Speaker 1: that we could have a basic apologetic and that apologetic,
Speaker 1: that word means defending, so we could defend the faith,
Speaker 1: not in a military way, but with gentleness and respect.
Speaker 1: Let's defend, like Peter said, the faith. And we could
Speaker 1: do this in really easy ways. So let's talk practically.
Speaker 1: Let's see if anyone else has chimed in on this.
Speaker 1: Aslan Rising says, the devil has been twisting God's words
Speaker 1: since the garden and since we were born.
Speaker 2: Of our father.
Speaker 1: The devil, those outside of Christ will seek to distort
Speaker 1: God's word and this includes making false translations. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let's talk about false translations. Twenty twenty four is a
Speaker 1: wonderful time to live in any religion. It's a wonderful
Speaker 1: time to live because we have the Internet. We could
Speaker 1: research things, we could we could look to, we could
Speaker 1: look at history, we could look to recent discoveries of
Speaker 1: ancient things better with more knowledge and more efficiently than
Speaker 1: any other generation before us.
Speaker 2: What a time to live.
Speaker 1: There's also a lot of responsibility on us because now
Speaker 1: we've been given a lot of information. What are we
Speaker 1: going to do with this? But here's the deal, y'all.
Speaker 1: It boils down to this. Translations. Modern translations, good scholarly
Speaker 1: modern translations are derived from early ancient text. They're not
Speaker 1: they're not. It's not a game of telephone. You don't
Speaker 1: have the the KJV and then was revised into the whatever.
Speaker 1: Then then that was revised into the whatever, and then
Speaker 1: they use that to revise it into the whatever. Now,
Speaker 1: modern scholarly translations always will use a team of scholars,
Speaker 1: and they go back to the oldest manuscripts that we have,
Speaker 1: which are the fourth century and the three hundreds are
Speaker 1: our earliest manuscripts. And then we have fragments of manuscripts
Speaker 1: all the way from the first century. So if a
Speaker 1: in these fragments are from all over Eastern Europe, the
Speaker 1: Middle East, Africa. So when we get these fragments, and
Speaker 1: we could look at them today and we could match
Speaker 1: them to the early manuscripts, the complete manuscripts we have
Speaker 1: from the fourth century, the Alexandrian text, or the oldest
Speaker 1: we have. They were discovered in the eighteen hundreds, so
Speaker 1: it's a more recent discovery than even the King James Bible. Right,
Speaker 1: so we and then we look at it, and what
Speaker 1: a miracle to look at the Alexandrian text and then
Speaker 1: look at the King James and go, oh wow, we
Speaker 1: haven't lost any doctrine. These old manuscripts are still they're
Speaker 1: still matching up to the oldest ones. We have the
Speaker 1: text Us recept Us, which is where the King James
Speaker 1: was derived from. And so when we look at these,
Speaker 1: no doctrine is lost. There are words here and there,
Speaker 1: there are verses. So in a modern English translation sometimes
Speaker 1: like the EESV, you'll see a verse that's not there
Speaker 1: that is there in the KJV. And some people use
Speaker 1: that and they go, Sae, look that people are trying
Speaker 1: to deep state change change the Bible. But what's what's
Speaker 1: actually happening there?
Speaker 2: And if you have a good if.
Speaker 1: You have a good Bible, it should say earlier. It
Speaker 1: says earlier manuscripts. Earliest manuscripts have left out and then
Speaker 1: it says the word or the line that you might
Speaker 1: see in for instance, the KJV, and so you could
Speaker 1: take it or leave it. None of those times does
Speaker 1: it ever say something that changes something about who God is.
Speaker 1: It's something, it's just something more trivial. But what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do is they're trying to go I think
Speaker 1: this was added later. I think this was added in
Speaker 1: the tenth century. But for clarity, some monk, some scribe
Speaker 1: added a line for clarity for the people of that village.
Speaker 1: An earlier manuscript doesn't have that clarity. So let's trust
Speaker 1: the earlier manuscript. That's my thinking. Let's trust the oldest
Speaker 1: collection of manuscripts that that all test to each other.
Speaker 1: But then you could look at the added line from
Speaker 1: the scribe and you don't have to just say it's
Speaker 1: heresy or anything. But I'm trying to debunk the idea that, yes,
Speaker 1: the Bible does change. But my argument is it changes
Speaker 1: for the better. Sure, because they're making more recent archaeological discoveries,
Speaker 1: which we have twenty over twenty five thousand pieces of
Speaker 1: the Bible that date all the way back to the
Speaker 1: first century. So anyone that wants to say a deep
Speaker 1: state's changing it, the Bible's changing. There's a conspiracy that people.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is go, let's go to a
Speaker 1: local museum and let's pull out the Greek translator on
Speaker 1: our phone and as look at these ancient texts and
Speaker 1: see if John ten is the same as the John
Speaker 1: ten we see in her Bible. It's that easy in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, Parker, you got anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's something that's really important to consider.
Speaker 4: And I'm glad that people are even thinking about it
Speaker 4: and talking about it, because it's really easy, especially us
Speaker 4: being in the Bible Belt, to just affirm, to affirm
Speaker 4: the Bible or God without looking into you know, what
Speaker 4: am I reading and where did it come from? And
Speaker 4: do I have an answer for people who like, there
Speaker 4: are it's not just have blind faith.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: You know, there are his you know, reliable historical documents
Speaker 4: that backscripture. And that's one of the things that early
Speaker 4: in my in my becoming a Christian in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: that I couldn't I couldn't believe how many intelligent people,
Speaker 4: how many historians affirmed the Bible, the God of the Bible.
Speaker 4: I always thought it was anti science, anti history. And
Speaker 4: I remember hearing Tim Keller one time and he said,
Speaker 4: there's a million things you could argue about the reliability
Speaker 4: of scripture, of things that you think may think contradict
Speaker 4: of things that you may think don't work with our
Speaker 4: practical world. But he said, I challenge you to just
Speaker 4: do three things. To Number one, just look at the gospels.
Speaker 4: The Gospels are about the life of Jesus Christ, and
Speaker 4: you need to ask yourself, can I trust these gospels?
Speaker 4: Who wrote these and when? And can we just practically
Speaker 4: trust who wrote these? And if the answer is yes,
Speaker 4: then that means that what's in Matthew Mark, Luke John
Speaker 4: is history. Is it reliable, who wrote it when? And
Speaker 4: if you can affirm it yes, this is history, then
Speaker 4: you need to make a decision about who is Jesus
Speaker 4: claiming to be. When you read Jesus talking about himself,
Speaker 4: who is he claiming to be? Is he just a
Speaker 4: prophet like every other good religion says, or is he
Speaker 4: claiming to be the son of God on whom he
Speaker 4: bore the sins of the world of those who had
Speaker 4: trust in him and he's the only way? And then
Speaker 4: number three, you have to decide. So number one, are
Speaker 4: the Gospels historically reliable? Number two? Who is Jesus claiming
Speaker 4: to be? And then number three, what's my decision going
Speaker 4: to be about him? Am I going to follow him?
Speaker 3: Or am I not?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: So that that's just like a really good practical way
Speaker 4: to think about it, because it can be really overwhelming,
Speaker 4: but I think you described it really well. And then
Speaker 4: and then lastly, I'll just say a really good resource
Speaker 4: for that. It's a book called Can We Trust the Gospels?
Speaker 4: It's just called Can We Trust the Gospels. It's a
Speaker 4: really short read, and from my mind, I'm sure everybody's different.
Speaker 4: I love listening to like like you and like aunt
Speaker 4: historians practically talk about these writings and where they came
Speaker 4: from and if we can trust them, because if they're true,
Speaker 4: just really practically, then Christianity is true and we should
Speaker 4: we should make a decision about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're so right. The I saw one
Speaker 1: on here, Oh Joe, Joe, Mama says, my Bible says
Speaker 1: a king it's King James version, but inside it says
Speaker 1: translated by Prince James. That's don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but you should throw that Bible out King James didn't
Speaker 1: translate anything. He did commission a group of scholars to
Speaker 1: work on translating from the Latin. And so if we should,
Speaker 1: we should live in twenty twenty four and rejoice that
Speaker 1: we have access to all kinds of really really solid information.
Speaker 1: And like Parker said, it's just it shouldn't be a mystery.
Speaker 1: But yet you should question those things. I think it's
Speaker 1: really good that it would be really weird to just go
Speaker 1: I trust this, why because everyone says to trust it. No,
Speaker 1: we could actually know some things that The History of
Speaker 1: the Bible Museum in Washington, d C. Has some really good,
Speaker 1: some really good fragments of text that's just fascinating to
Speaker 1: stand there. It's from the Book of John. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's John eight. I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: the one that's currently on display in the History of
Speaker 1: the Bible Museum, it's a fragment from John eight. And
Speaker 1: there it is right there in the Greek and you
Speaker 1: go and you could look at your phone and look
Speaker 1: at a translator and go, that's the same. That's the
Speaker 1: same as we have today. That's a miracle we have.
Speaker 3: We have some missionaries at our church that are currently
Speaker 3: translating the Bible into a language that it has never
Speaker 3: been translated to. So they kind of spoke recently of
Speaker 3: how they're doing it, and it is literally word for word,
Speaker 3: line by line. A couple people will be assigned to
Speaker 3: a certain section and they'll do that, but then that
Speaker 3: section goes to several other people who double, triple, quadruple
Speaker 3: check line by line, word by word, chapter by chapter,
Speaker 3: book by book, and it's I mean, it takes forever.
Speaker 3: And think of how how quickly it actually is in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four with all the resources that we do have.
Speaker 3: It makes me appreciate the ones who came before them,
Speaker 3: and I obviously appreciate them doing this right now. To
Speaker 3: know that there's a language right now that doesn't have
Speaker 3: the Bible and there they've been called to do that,
Speaker 3: I thought was fascinating to kind of hear how, even
Speaker 3: in this day and age, how meticulous they are with
Speaker 3: making sure that every single word is right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Aslan Rising says, it's important to distinguish between changing of
Speaker 1: translations and the changing of the original text, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great point because when you when you say
Speaker 1: that the Bible is the Word of God. We say amen,
Speaker 1: but what we mean is the inspired word of it
Speaker 1: from the original authors, not whatever current translation you're holding,
Speaker 1: because you could actually be holding a heresy translation. I
Speaker 1: highly discouraged. The passion translation highly trand the message message,
Speaker 1: the message.
Speaker 2: Is another one.
Speaker 1: I'm highly discouraged. And especially if it comes the translation
Speaker 1: is coming from one person. That's that's a big it's
Speaker 1: a big red flag right there. So you don't hold
Speaker 1: the message and go, this is the word of God
Speaker 1: the Bible. Only half of what you're saying is true.
Speaker 1: Asland makes a great point that we're talking about the
Speaker 1: original inspired word of it. Now we also have great
Speaker 1: evidence that that that word has been preserved. And besides
Speaker 1: the fact that God says his word will be preserved,
Speaker 1: we actually, we actually have great history of showing how
Speaker 1: this is working.
Speaker 2: And where are we on time? We're about twenty minutes in.
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Speaker 1: the podcast at grangersmith dot com email. The first one
Speaker 1: comes from Jacob and it says, Hey, granger I'm glad
Speaker 1: to have the chance to send this to you. A
Speaker 1: little overview of myself. I am twenty two years old,
Speaker 1: a native of Texas, and I've been in the United
Speaker 1: States Marine.
Speaker 2: Corps for about three years.
Speaker 1: I've always considered myself a Christian, but recently I've had
Speaker 1: life situations that have challenged my faith, such as the depths,
Speaker 1: the deaths of four of my marines and a buddy
Speaker 1: from back home in a car accident, and less than
Speaker 1: a year five friends have already passed away. Just a
Speaker 1: few days ago, my mother received a breast cancer diagnosis.
Speaker 1: I think everything going on has waken me up and
Speaker 1: away and showed me how much of life as a
Speaker 1: gift and that it really can be taken away in
Speaker 1: an instant. I've been pushing myself to read the Gospel
Speaker 1: and understand more. I finished the Gospel of John and
Speaker 1: now reading into Matthew. I know God is there, but
Speaker 1: I feel like my faith has been going up and down.
Speaker 2: I'm struggling.
Speaker 1: How do I hear slash, feel the Lord more and
Speaker 1: find the right direction. If you see this, thank you.
Speaker 1: I've been a fan and I hope your family's doing well.
Speaker 2: Jacob.
Speaker 1: All right, Jacob, So you emailed at an interesting time
Speaker 1: because Park and I are reading Dietrich Bonhoeffer that addresses
Speaker 1: this exact question, what do you do when your faith
Speaker 1: seems to be going up and down? I have I'm
Speaker 1: going to be bringing a message to Pensacola Sunday night.
Speaker 1: It's like they're calling it like a fall kick off.
Speaker 1: It's the first Baptist Pensacola, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring the message of Basically, it's I'm gonna tell my story,
Speaker 1: and I have three points in my story, which is
Speaker 1: gonna be a devastating day and the farious night in
Speaker 1: Americle morning. And then from those three points in my story,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into three calls to action for me
Speaker 1: and everyone else every other Christian, and the three calls
Speaker 1: to action are going to be surrender, equip, follow, surrender,
Speaker 1: equip follow, And so basically the way I want to
Speaker 1: unpack that is kind of like you're asking this question, Jacob,
Speaker 1: what do you do when life's coming at you. You
Speaker 1: realize the the how fragile it is. Your mom just
Speaker 1: got this cancer diagnosis. You've got buddies that have died
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps. You recognize that life's a vapor.
Speaker 1: You recognize that they're something else out there. There's there's
Speaker 1: more to this life than live and die today. And
Speaker 1: so you rightly so push yourself towards the gospel, thinking
Speaker 1: that you're going to equip yourself and understand more. And
Speaker 1: you read the Gospel of John. Now you're reading Matthew
Speaker 1: with the idea of equipping. So that's equipping and and
Speaker 1: that's that is your training. The Bible says that all
Speaker 1: scriptures breed that by God and profitable for training in righteousness,
Speaker 1: so that the man may be they may be complete equip.
Speaker 2: For every good work.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's good, but but so many times the
Speaker 1: component the call to action that's missing is follow. Jesus
Speaker 1: calls all of his disciples the same way. Follow me
Speaker 1: and they drop their nets, they leave the tax booth,
Speaker 1: whatever they're doing at the time, and they take a
Speaker 1: step in obedience. And the step in obedience is faith.
Speaker 1: It's the display of faith. Faith and faith is an action,
Speaker 1: not a noun. So taking the step of faith, taking
Speaker 1: the step of inobedience is faith, just as faith is
Speaker 1: a step in obedience. Those two things go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: So if you stand in on a crossroads like you are, Jacob,
Speaker 1: and you're going, I'm equipping myself. I've surrendered to Jesus,
Speaker 1: my Lord, what do I do? And to that, Jesus says,
Speaker 1: just like he said to the disciples, like he said
Speaker 1: to the rich young ruler, he says, follow me. So
Speaker 1: you read his gospel. And as you read the Gospel
Speaker 1: of John, and as you read the Gospel of Matthew,
Speaker 1: like you're doing, my challenge to you is read it
Speaker 1: and do it. This is love that you keep his commandments,
Speaker 1: and his commandments are not burdensome. John says, So don't
Speaker 1: just read, don't just equip. Read and equip with the
Speaker 1: intention of doing, because in the doing, in the obedience,
Speaker 1: it is faith. In fact, Bonhaffer, Dietrich Bonhaffer, who park
Speaker 1: and our reading?
Speaker 2: You're still reading.
Speaker 1: He says something fascinating. He says, obedience. The step in obedience,
Speaker 1: the answering the call, makes faith possible. And that's a
Speaker 1: fascinating thought. And so then I think about we went
Speaker 1: to eastern Tennessee and my kids were doing this ziplining
Speaker 1: through the forest. And when you stand up on that
Speaker 1: platform and you look out into the trees and you
Speaker 1: see this just vast open space, and it's terrifying. And
Speaker 1: you look at your harness, and you look at the
Speaker 1: rope you're in, and you go, that doesn't give me
Speaker 1: enough faith. There's only one way to have faith in
Speaker 1: a zipline, only one way to take this step and
Speaker 1: jump off the platform, throwing all your weight into that line.
Speaker 1: And then you look up and you go, I believe.
Speaker 4: I'm believe.
Speaker 1: I believe now I have faith. Now the obedience makes
Speaker 1: the faith possible. So Jacob read Matthew like you're doing,
Speaker 1: and then do it what you got.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, Okay, so what's your practical
Speaker 4: advice for Jacob when he wakes up tomorrow morning? He
Speaker 4: wants to feel God more God feels distant, which is
Speaker 4: pretty much the trend that I hear almost every other day.
Speaker 2: It seems like.
Speaker 4: Once you're a little bit more vocal about your Christianity,
Speaker 4: people then start coming to you, especially in the South,
Speaker 4: like I keep saying, where most people affirm the existence
Speaker 4: of God. But then there, you know, some life circumstance happens.
Speaker 4: They get fired, there's a divorce, what a good friend
Speaker 4: passes away, some trial happens, and they start considering their
Speaker 4: own death the meaning of life, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I believe in God, but like he feels distant.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: They listen to every Morgan Wallen song that says I
Speaker 4: know I should be reading those letters and read more,
Speaker 4: but you know, I'm out on Saturday night, you know,
Speaker 4: doing this or that, and I know I should be
Speaker 4: the up early on set Sunday mornings more. But it's
Speaker 4: so anyway, all that to say is, yeah, I just
Speaker 4: feel like that's a really common trend of people listening.
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, I get it, I believe in God,
Speaker 4: but like I don't really feel it. So, like you said,
Speaker 4: I think that's good practical advice of Like, typically what
Speaker 4: I do to people these days is like I go
Speaker 4: to John three and I read about Nicodemus meeting with
Speaker 4: Jesus in the middle of the night, and then they're
Speaker 4: talking about the Kingdom of God and salvation, and Jesus says,
Speaker 4: you must be born again. And I think that that's
Speaker 4: where it starts. Is we have to ask ourselves very practically,
Speaker 4: what is a Christian? How do you become a Christian?
Speaker 4: And then what does the Christian life look like? And
Speaker 4: I think what you said is important. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you need to be obedient, you need to listen to
Speaker 4: the Word. And then another real sense, you need to
Speaker 4: ask yourself have I been born again? Which is the
Speaker 4: really uncomfy religious question that no one likes to talk about,
Speaker 4: but it's what the scripture says. You must be born again.
Speaker 4: You need a new heart in order to enjoy and
Speaker 4: read the word of God, to enjoy church. And God
Speaker 4: will give you a new heart if you surrender to
Speaker 4: Him and put your faith in His son for the
Speaker 4: forgiveness of your sins. And he says that he'll give
Speaker 4: you a new heart once you seek refuge in Christ,
Speaker 4: knowing the wrath that you deserve. You deserve hell, but
Speaker 4: in his mercy he sent Christ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the gospel. What do you got to ant on?
Speaker 3: This's what's the Indiana Jones movie where he can't see it,
Speaker 3: just a pit that goes all the way down. But
Speaker 3: when he takes a step, he finds himself last crusade,
Speaker 3: Last Crusade. That's what I visually see when we're talking
Speaker 3: about faith and faith, and particularly faith in action, practical
Speaker 3: faith in action. It's a step in the into the unknown.
Speaker 3: It's a step into what doesn't feel comfortable. And oftentimes
Speaker 3: I think, like for Jacob who he was, was do
Speaker 3: and then reform. Do first put your faith in action.
Speaker 3: And it's going to be like a toddler learning to walk.
Speaker 2: You're going to.
Speaker 3: Trip, you're gonna fall, you're gonna stumble, you're gonna look
Speaker 3: like a fool. And if you can get past that,
Speaker 3: the more that you do, the more you will start moving.
Speaker 3: It just just naturally move into what God has for you.
Speaker 3: But it often takes you doing something in faith before.
Speaker 3: If you sit and you talk about it for so long,
Speaker 3: you just sit and talk about it, and there's never
Speaker 3: there's never but faith with that works. There's a Rich
Speaker 3: Mullen song a long time ago. Faith with that works
Speaker 3: is like a screen door on a submarine. It's useless,
Speaker 3: it doesn't work. And so that's often what I think
Speaker 3: being practical with our faith is, well, I don't know
Speaker 3: are you doing anything? If you're not pick something and
Speaker 3: do it doesn't have to be in line with YEA.
Speaker 1: So people might be saying like what, Well, yes, you
Speaker 1: could start with uh coveting with a local body, meaning
Speaker 1: being in a meaningful relationship or a meaningful membership at
Speaker 1: a local church. That's a that's a good step towards obedience.
Speaker 1: You could you could start reading, making a consistent reading plan,
Speaker 1: picking up where you left off yesterday, so that you
Speaker 1: could be equipped for every good work that is prepared
Speaker 1: beforehand for you. That's a good step and obedience. And
Speaker 1: then you could start looking. You could start looking at
Speaker 1: your friends and realizing that being around bad company and
Speaker 1: he corrupts good character. So you go, okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some new friends, but that that comes
Speaker 1: from the meaningful relationship at the church, so that we
Speaker 1: could sit here for and give a quickly give a
Speaker 1: hundred things to act as a next step and obedience.
Speaker 1: And we think about Peter when he was on the
Speaker 1: boat and the sea was raging around him, and he
Speaker 1: sees Jesus in the dark walking on the water. Peter
Speaker 1: stands up and says, Lord called to me, and I'll
Speaker 1: come to you.
Speaker 2: Jesus says, come.
Speaker 1: So Peter has a choice here, stay in the boat
Speaker 1: or take a step into what would be surely death
Speaker 1: without faith, into a raging sea, probably had no ability
Speaker 1: to swim.
Speaker 2: He's gone.
Speaker 1: He takes the step and obedience towards Christ from the call,
Speaker 1: putting the emphasis on the call of Christ, not on
Speaker 1: his own effort or courage, not his own bravery. That
Speaker 1: he's putting his faith in. He's putting his faith in
Speaker 1: the one who called him to step and steps and
Speaker 1: he walks on the water. And as soon as Peter
Speaker 1: hits that water and it's it's hard, and he walks
Speaker 1: on it. You know, at that point he said, I
Speaker 1: believe there's my faith. The step made the faith active. No,
Speaker 1: we know later in the story he loses his his eyesight,
Speaker 1: he loses his vision, and he starts to sink. But
Speaker 1: but the important part is it took it required the step.
Speaker 1: So Jacob, Jacob take the step, and then let's move
Speaker 1: on another question because I want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to sit too long on Jacob and you let me
Speaker 1: know if.
Speaker 2: Do you want to take one from here? Yes, there's
Speaker 2: we do have one.
Speaker 3: It'll take a second for to pop up for you.
Speaker 3: But Techonator thinks it's from.
Speaker 2: Read the question to me. What you got? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yes, hey Granger, I appreciate your videos each week. Had
Speaker 3: a question about your recent comment on the Sabbath being
Speaker 3: on Sunday versus Saturday. Could you expound on.
Speaker 1: That, Well, this this could be its own podcast, and
Speaker 1: maybe it should be one day. But one thing one
Speaker 1: that's really really neat to see now is, first of all,
Speaker 1: we know that the Lord was resurrected on the third Day,
Speaker 1: which was a Sunday, and Christians look at that as
Speaker 1: instead of a Sabbath day, we look at that as
Speaker 1: the Lord's Day, meaning it is the day of the Lord,
Speaker 1: it is the day of renewal. There's freshness in a Sunday,
Speaker 1: it's the beginning, just in representation of the new beginning
Speaker 1: of the resurrection. But besides the symbolic meaning of Sunday gathering,
Speaker 1: because I don't necessarily we have to say Sunday is
Speaker 1: the Sabbath. I think we could get a little bit
Speaker 1: into trouble with that because the Sabbath was clearly Saturday.
Speaker 2: In the Old Testament.
Speaker 1: So if you go to Jerusalem right now, it's clearly Saturday. Yes,
Speaker 1: So our sabbath rest is Jesus, who says, come to me,
Speaker 1: all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
Speaker 1: give you rest. I'll give you rest. Rest in me.
Speaker 1: I am the rest that you need. I am the Sabbath.
Speaker 1: So for Christians, Jesus is the Sabbath. Once again, it
Speaker 1: would take a whole podcast to unpack how we can't
Speaker 1: just skirt around that and just and act like that
Speaker 1: requires nothing of us, because the Sabbath was a wonderful
Speaker 1: thing that required a lot from the people to show sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Let's not get into that. Let's do the quicker answer is,
Speaker 1: as we look back on church history, all the way
Speaker 1: back to the first century, Christians were gathering on Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: all the way back to the apostle John himself, who
Speaker 1: is the old Elder, the one that we believe actually
Speaker 1: set the Church as we know it in motion with
Speaker 1: a reading of scripture, an application to the hearers, the
Speaker 1: breaking of bread, the taking of the sacraments in wine
Speaker 1: and bread, and baptism as well, all that was done
Speaker 1: on morning. We read from John excuse me, from Justin Martyr,
Speaker 1: who was one of the earliest to write about the
Speaker 1: Christian gathering, and it was a Sunday. So we look
Speaker 1: back and we go It's always been done on Sunday,
Speaker 1: even back to the apostle John himself who walked with Jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should do it on Sunday.
Speaker 1: In the discussion at that point, we could open up
Speaker 1: another podcast episode if we want to get more into that.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Though, it's a great question.
Speaker 1: It kind of goes back to the theme of this
Speaker 1: podcast about can we trust the Bible. We shouldn't just
Speaker 1: go I gather on a church on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Cool. I'm good with that. We should say why.
Speaker 1: I think it's healthy to say why.
Speaker 4: Why do we do it?
Speaker 2: Why do we do it this way?
Speaker 1: It can get us into a lot of trouble if
Speaker 1: our answer is always just just tradition, I don't really
Speaker 1: know why.
Speaker 2: Yes, you can, and you should know why. There's twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 3: We have time for one more.
Speaker 2: Do you want to do it?
Speaker 1: More?
Speaker 2: From the Rosy.
Speaker 1: This comes from Anonymous. Thanks for your amazing podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: so thankful for the truth that you put out each
Speaker 1: each and every week. I love Yegee merch and I
Speaker 1: bought this summer launch. I thought I would start my
Speaker 1: question with some context. I am a high school senior
Speaker 1: and I'm needing to decide where to go to college.
Speaker 1: My two choices are both in Oregon and both have
Speaker 1: my major have a major of ag science. One is
Speaker 1: an amazing Christian school with a great program, but very
Speaker 1: expensive and will leave me.
Speaker 2: With a lot of debt. The other is a less.
Speaker 1: Expensive university, but non Christian. I also would quite possibly
Speaker 1: be open to a relationship possibility for me with a
Speaker 1: great Christian guy who doesn't want to be doing long distance. Now,
Speaker 1: my question is how do I decide where to go
Speaker 1: when both options have tempting choices and the one option
Speaker 1: breaks down a relational barrier? Okay, which one is got
Speaker 1: the non Christian guy? Which one's got the great Christian guy?
Speaker 1: I should say, Oh, that's the non Christian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the non Christian school as the
Speaker 3: Christian guy.
Speaker 1: Anonymous wants to go to school with this guy, Hey,
Speaker 1: there's nothing and there's technically nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The just because a college calls themselves a Christian university
Speaker 1: and they're very expensive does not mean this is where
Speaker 1: God's calling you to go at all. And there there
Speaker 1: was just as much debauchery in a college that calls
Speaker 1: themselves Christian. What what do they mean by Christian? What
Speaker 1: kind of what? What kind of heresy could they be
Speaker 1: hiding within those Ivy League walls?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I say, I would say, go make the sensible decision
Speaker 1: to go where you could afford, where you don't get
Speaker 1: into incredible debt. You're going to get a sounds like
Speaker 1: a solid education with the major you want. You may
Speaker 1: even be able to be in some kind of relationship
Speaker 1: with a with a good guy, and they're going to
Speaker 1: have a good church in the town. With the non
Speaker 1: non Christian college, I don't see anything wrong with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else on that? No?
Speaker 1: I agree, let's grab one more shout out here from
Speaker 1: these people. We have anything anybody else that? Hey, I
Speaker 1: appreciate all you guys being so involved in the chat.
Speaker 1: It actually makes it makes for a really cool experience
Speaker 1: for me doing this podcast. Just once again if you're
Speaker 1: if you're listening on the regular podcast platform. We actually
Speaker 1: did this live and so it's neat being able to
Speaker 1: involve involve everyone else as well. And do you have
Speaker 1: any idea when we'll do another live?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Probably what are we in? One month in August, so
Speaker 3: we'll probably do it maybe around the Fall launch.
Speaker 2: Okay, September. When's the Fall lunch part September?
Speaker 4: Sometime around September twentieth.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we're working on a bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 4: We always got stuff, stuff rolling, we're working on. We've
Speaker 4: got a blue collar launch coming up soon that's always fun,
Speaker 4: and working on Fall launch, which is always the biggest
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Speaker 4: I are just working super hard, trying to make sure
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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next Monday. Y'all.
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