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Speaker 1: Welcome a point game with John Wall and CJ. Toldonnell,

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Speaker 1: all the action across the NBA and gets too closer

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Speaker 1: to the game we all love. The crown is yours.

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Speaker 1: We have a very special episode today. We are joined

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Speaker 1: by the captain the nineteen ninety six national champion Kentucky

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Speaker 1: Wildcats and the brand new coach of the University Kentucky

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Speaker 1: men's basketball team, Mark Pope. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: we got to get John's reaction here on the Finals

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Speaker 1: that just wrapped up Celtics in the winner. So, John,

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Speaker 1: you've been kind of calling it as the Celtics We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take it all this whole season since we started

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Speaker 1: this pod. So wanted to get your reaction upon seeing

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Speaker 1: them closest thing out in five and finally get their

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Speaker 1: their first title with the Jalen Brown in Tatum era.

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Speaker 2: I think it was great.

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Speaker 3: I told you before I felt like they had to

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Speaker 3: win this championship. If they didn't, I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: like before a lot of people said when they lost

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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty two I think to the Warriors,

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Speaker 3: there was like they got to split them up. They're

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Speaker 3: not They're great, they're both great players, but they don't

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Speaker 3: have enough to get it done. And you know, you

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Speaker 3: always have those debates when we have two superstars or

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Speaker 3: two stars in the back court of two stars on

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Speaker 3: one team, like how do they co exist and can

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Speaker 3: they play it well together? So then to finally get

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Speaker 3: over that hump and win the championship, I think it

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Speaker 3: was excited for them. They really enjoyed it. I know

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Speaker 3: they're probably on the high right now, living in a

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Speaker 3: moment still and yeah, like you kept you listening to

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Speaker 3: the interview out the game, a lot of them kept

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Speaker 3: saying they feel so surreal, like they can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: They still haven't registered in their mind that they won

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Speaker 3: a championship. So I think it was dope. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: I called it all season. I thought it was gonna

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Speaker 3: play Denver, but you know, like the MAVs made some trades,

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Speaker 3: other team made some trades, other teams got better, and

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Speaker 3: Minnesota had a heck of a run and Dallas got

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Speaker 3: over the hump.

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Speaker 2: But it was great to see them get a win.

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Speaker 1: No, it was dope too, because I remember the last

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Speaker 1: few years. I think it was twenty twenty one and

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of twenty two, people are talking

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Speaker 1: about do we need to separate these guys, do we

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Speaker 1: need to move you know Jalen Brown. So one like,

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Speaker 1: how was it to see those two kind of make

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Speaker 1: it work? And do you think other teams are sort

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Speaker 1: of taking note to give some of these duos in

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Speaker 1: do you sort of see with Jalen, you know, winning

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Speaker 1: MVP in the conference finals, in the finals, do you

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Speaker 1: think that that Jason is Jason is kind of taking

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Speaker 1: that as a personal challenge that he's got to win

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Speaker 1: those maybe in the future. So how do those guys

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Speaker 1: kind of how does the championship sort of affect their

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Speaker 1: relationship and that duo after these you know, seven years together.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I think yeah, more team is going to

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Speaker 3: take more time not to try to break up duos

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Speaker 3: too early. I think it was great because I didn't notice.

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Speaker 3: But I think when if you listen to an interview

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Speaker 3: or somebody said it, uh that Jalen Brown felt like

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Speaker 3: he failed them last year, failed them last year when

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Speaker 3: Tatum got hurt in Game seven. You know, they were

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Speaker 3: looking for him to be the guy to step up.

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Speaker 3: He felt like he wasn't as good enough yet and

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Speaker 3: that's why when they lost to Miami. So he felt

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Speaker 3: like he put a lot of pressure on his shelf

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Speaker 3: to get better over the summer. And uh, I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think, like Tatum said, like he wasn't pressed to

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Speaker 3: and everybody wants to win his CAP finale and that's

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Speaker 3: your ultimate goal. Shout out to Jayalen Brown. I feel

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Speaker 3: like he don't get a lot of recognition, so it's

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Speaker 3: great for him to get those awards. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: let him. He let him in scoring in both series

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Speaker 3: he was I think that this Pacer series he averaged

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Speaker 3: there's no reason Jaylen Brown shouldn't want either. He was

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Speaker 3: I think they gave him the edge because his impact

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Speaker 3: was a hell of a two way player throughout the finals,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean the way he was making it

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Speaker 3: He made him work, So you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Jason Davi should have got people, But

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Speaker 3: I'm not mad at Jayleen Brown got you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's great for him. He deserved that recognition. I was

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Speaker 3: upseting he didn't make RNBA this year. I think he's

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Speaker 3: shocking to me because I don't understand the narrative of

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Speaker 2: Like that doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 3: I could see if they were like a four seed

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Speaker 3: the last couple years, He's only made All NBA one time.

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Speaker 3: Like you usually give your best teams two or three

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Speaker 3: to me. But shout out to Jalen Brown for winning MVP,

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Speaker 3: And I mean, I think it was a shock to him.

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Speaker 2: You look at him.

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Speaker 3: He was surprised he got you know, I mean so,

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Speaker 3: but it was great for him to get it because

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Speaker 3: of other ways. So I think he was supercited. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: for Tatum, his mind said it, okay, I won one.

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Speaker 3: But he did it the right way though, because I

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Speaker 3: wasn't having great games early on, but he was doing

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Speaker 3: and said, I'm just trying to win MVP, like forget

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Speaker 3: the finals, winning the finals.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to win MVP.

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Speaker 3: But he was more so focused on whatever I got

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Speaker 3: So if that's not if I'm not shooting, well, let

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Speaker 3: Horford man shouted out, Horfi you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: finally again his ringing that you have pazingers that came

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Speaker 3: come off the bench whatever way I can help them win.

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Speaker 3: So I think that was big for their whole team

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Speaker 3: and just speaks volume of all those guys making the sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked seeing that. That was one of my

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Speaker 1: got to imagine a guy like that, he can go

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Speaker 1: be a vet anywhere else or whatever, but the Celtics

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Speaker 1: said like the Celtics had the easiest road, like this

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Speaker 2: Well, the end of the day is bro It's about health.

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Speaker 2: Everybody know.

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Speaker 3: It's about being healthy and being looked, having some luck,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So they can't control that

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Speaker 3: round one, Jimmy Butler wasn't healthy, and then Terry it

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Speaker 3: to the second round. They can't help that. Jared Allen

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Speaker 3: what I mean, I know they gonna look at it

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Speaker 3: we try to run it back next year. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean Milwaukee had an injury with Drew Holliday. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Dann got hurt a little bit. Then you play the Pacers,

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Speaker 3: then you have Halliburt getting hurt.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I mean not Haliburg, you

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's it's tough to say because you know,

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Speaker 2: So here's the excuse.

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Speaker 3: I if Brazilians don't come back for the finals and

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Speaker 3: they lose, is it because oh the Dallas had an

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Speaker 3: easy finals matchup?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are people? Are people gonna make that excuse? You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like it's the nature of it. It's like you go

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Speaker 3: everybody's healthy or throughout the whole playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But it's just the nature of the game. It's a

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Speaker 2: part of the game, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if people look back on that Raptors Championship

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Speaker 1: where you know, Katie and Clay got hurt and that,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it like discountant, but that is part

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Speaker 1: you play them in freak accidents happen. So I still

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Speaker 1: think it's like they still got to win those games

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Speaker 1: because sometimes teams step up when their best player is out.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's yeah, the Pacers step up, you see,

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Speaker 3: like they've been made the game. SAME's tough for Game

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Speaker 3: three and four, it's tough. But I just look at

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Speaker 3: like you said, So if you go back to that

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Speaker 3: is what you were saying, Katie and Clay been hurt.

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Speaker 3: So do we say, if Katie was healthy the hole

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Speaker 3: the whole playoffs here, do they sweep the raptor do

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Speaker 3: You still have Klay Thompson, you still have dra Mind,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think yeah, that Worries team. It was

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Speaker 3: I went to Game three and four and they was

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Speaker 3: just with the Celtics, they never got too high, they

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Speaker 2: It was pretty It was kind of easy for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking on Kyrie, and this would be the last

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Speaker 3: For me, I think nothing really happened with Kyrie. He

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Speaker 3: because he's still got the spot, but he had multiple

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Speaker 2: But happened.

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Speaker 3: Like I said before, they have four great defenders on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think the biggest thing is that Luca

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Speaker 1: This year there in the finals. The fact that they

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: embrace it, and then know the next day after that, man,

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Speaker 3: your journey's gonna start. Like you get to go to

438
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Speaker 3: the city, get drafted, to get to your press conference,

439
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,680
Speaker 3: you get to touch the jersey for the first time. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 3: and embrace how it's gonna be. But it's the best

441
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Speaker 3: feeling you can have. Man, it gets still better.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible and special. Okay, all right, this, Uh we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break here, but when we come back,

444
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Speaker 1: I think there's an interview that a lot of Kentucky

445
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Speaker 1: fans we saw you guys meet each other at eybl

446
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Speaker 1: and now we're gonna have a convo here between you

447
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Speaker 1: and the new Kentucky coach, Mark Pope. So we're gonna

448
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Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, Kentucky head

449
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Speaker 1: coach Mark Pope will be joining us. Welcome back to

450
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Speaker 1: point Game with John Wall and CJ. Toldonald, presented by DraftKings.

451
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Speaker 1: I am so excited to bring on this next guest.

452
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Speaker 1: We were joined by the captain of the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: six national champion Kentucky Wildcats and now the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the University of Kentucky men's basketball team, Mark Pope, Coach,

455
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Speaker 1: how you doing man? Thanks for joining us on point

456
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Speaker 1: Games easy.

457
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I'm hyped to be on with you,

458
00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,520
Speaker 4: but I'm out of my mind to beyond with John Wall, Like,

459
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Speaker 4: what are we talking about? I'm telling you guys, listen.

460
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Speaker 4: So I was at my first job, my first job

461
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Speaker 4: in college basketball was at the University of Georgia. I

462
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Speaker 4: was there John's rookie is verst and only year at

463
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Speaker 4: the University Kentucky. So you know, I had a two

464
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 4: big job. I was folding laundry and hanna out towels.

465
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Speaker 4: But on my own I was doing a lot of

466
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Speaker 4: film studies, sitting with the staff doing film study. So

467
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Speaker 4: we're prepping to go to Kentucky. We're watching film, We're

468
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Speaker 4: watching your individual clips, and you guys know, I swear

469
00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,720
Speaker 4: this is like not an exaggeration. You guys know how

470
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Speaker 4: it is back in the day when you would have

471
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Speaker 4: little glitches in the film where it'd be going normal

472
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Speaker 4: speed and all of a sudden like speed up to

473
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Speaker 4: like true time speed, and then we'll go back to normal.

474
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Speaker 4: So we're watching a transition clip and John, you started

475
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Speaker 4: like one step past the free throw line. You took

476
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Speaker 4: like one or two strides, and then it was like

477
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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you were in the

478
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Speaker 4: next freet throw line and we were like, wait, is

479
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Speaker 4: the film broken? It was not broken, man, I mean,

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Speaker 4: my gods, huge fan, huge.

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Speaker 3: Fan, my friend, appreciate it. I want to say thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us, coach. You know, I got to meet

483
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Speaker 3: you at the Indy at the eybl things, so it

484
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 3: was nice to finally get to meet you. And I

485
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Speaker 3: know everybody was a tested playing like, oh it's John

486
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Speaker 3: Wall gonna meet coach Pope before the season start. He

487
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Speaker 3: gonna is he gonna go to games? But I just

488
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Speaker 3: want to take congratulations to you again for getting ahead

489
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Speaker 3: coaching job. And where do you see yourself taking the

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Speaker 3: program and what you think like the future is. God know,

491
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of expectations everybody wants you to live

492
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Speaker 3: up to what coach Cayle did. But you're your own coach.

493
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Speaker 3: You have your own pedigree, you have your own way.

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Speaker 3: So where do you see yourself taking it? Well, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm in Kentucky. Is Kentucky?

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Speaker 4: I mean, as you know right, there's nowhere like it.

497
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 4: I mean there's there's there's college basketball, there's blue buds

498
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 4: in college basketball, and then there's Kentucky. It's just a standalone.

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Speaker 4: I might be biased when I say that, but I

500
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Speaker 4: got to wear this jersey. I know what it's like

501
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Speaker 4: to wear this jersey, and there's there's just no place

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Speaker 4: like this. I could cite a hundred different examples, whether

503
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Speaker 4: it's winning or pros or championships or fan base, it

504
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 4: just as different. And so there's no acceptable expectations here

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Speaker 4: other than winning championships. And we say that all the time,

506
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Speaker 4: like you know, if if if you know, we talked

507
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Speaker 4: about this at the press conference when when when I

508
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Speaker 4: was introduced as the next head coach, if if you know,

509
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Speaker 4: most coaches stand up at the press conference and they

510
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Speaker 4: try and moderate expectations because that's a smart thing to do.

511
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Speaker 4: Give yourself time, build the program, take a few years, right,

512
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Speaker 4: that's not acceptable Kentucky. Like when you walk in the door,

513
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 4: you better be ready to win a banner, Like you

514
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Speaker 4: got to hang a banner, you better win a ring,

515
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Speaker 4: win a championship, and and and that might seem like

516
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Speaker 4: unreasonable expectations, all of us on this zoom, we know

517
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Speaker 4: how hard that is. And if you don't want that

518
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Speaker 4: day one when you walk in the door, don't take

519
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Speaker 4: the job of Kentucky. You go take some other job.

520
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Speaker 4: You could take any other job in college basketball. But

521
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Speaker 4: if you're, if you're if you know, if, if you're

522
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Speaker 4: coming to Kentucky, you know what the challenge is. And

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Speaker 4: the expectation is that you hang a banner every year,

524
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Speaker 4: and if you don't, you fall short. And I'm okay

525
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Speaker 4: with that reality. That's just the reality here, and there's

526
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Speaker 4: no place I'd rather be.

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Speaker 1: Coach. I saw it this week. I think it was

528
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Speaker 1: you guys had started practice, so one wanted to ask you, like,

529
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Speaker 1: how does it feel to finally get your guys on

530
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Speaker 1: the court. Have there been any surprises from the guys

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Speaker 1: you've seen now that they're playing? And then I also

532
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Speaker 1: saw this micd Up clip where I love this expression

533
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Speaker 1: and phrase where you were saying ton of joy, ton

534
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Speaker 1: of juice, And I would love to get the background

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Speaker 1: on that, because I think a lot of fans are

536
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Speaker 1: were like, man, that was like amping the everyone up

537
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Speaker 1: just watching it on their phones and the computers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, that's been you know, John, you've been here.

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Speaker 4: You can imagine. I got here as a head coach

540
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Speaker 4: and there was a couple of days where I'm sitting

541
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Speaker 4: here as the only coach on staff in the offices

542
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Speaker 4: with zero players on the roster, and then we talked

543
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Speaker 4: about the expectations year one, and there were a couple

544
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Speaker 4: of moments I was like, wow, this, you know this.

545
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Speaker 4: We got a lot of work to do. And I

546
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Speaker 4: love this staff. I can't wait till you guys get

547
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Speaker 4: on campus and meet the guys on my staff. I

548
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Speaker 4: think it's a really special group. And and then I

549
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Speaker 4: like these players a lot. Like these guys, John, You're

550
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Speaker 4: gonna love these guys, man, because when they put on

551
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Speaker 4: this journey, every this jersey, every single one of them,

552
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Speaker 4: it means something to that man. It means something to

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Speaker 4: put on the same jersey that you wore, and all

554
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Speaker 4: these great players that came before you and after you

555
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Speaker 4: like it means something to our guys to put this

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Speaker 4: jersey on, and and they're incredibly committed, they're gonna work hard,

557
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Speaker 4: and so getting finally getting the point where we could

558
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Speaker 4: have on the practice flore we have so much work

559
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Speaker 4: to do to kind of get to where our goal is.

560
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Speaker 4: Like it's it's almost inconceivd amount of work. And I

561
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Speaker 4: do think we have special pieces. You know, every single

562
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Speaker 4: one of these guys we could look at as a

563
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Speaker 4: is a piece that could be special. I would I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you what I would love to have seen LaMonte Butler,

565
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Speaker 4: who I think is probably the best defensive point guard

566
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Speaker 4: in the country right now, who's it is fifth year, Uh,

567
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Speaker 4: try and spend the time guard and John Wall the

568
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Speaker 4: most electric point guard rookie in the country as freshman year.

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Speaker 4: Like those kind of battles like I kind of get

570
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Speaker 4: all the all the generations kind of flow together for

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Speaker 4: me as I think about the grace that have been here.

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Speaker 4: And so we're really happy to have these guys on

573
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Speaker 4: the court right now. They're working hard and it's good

574
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Speaker 4: because we got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you say that because I was going

576
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Speaker 3: to ask you how many times have you been sitting

577
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Speaker 3: by yourself and pinch yourself that you've got to play

578
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Speaker 3: for the University Kentucky winning championship there, but now you're

579
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Speaker 3: the head coach of the Kentucky Wildcasting on top of that,

580
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Speaker 3: how did you start your recruitment process? Like, how did

581
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Speaker 3: you feel like you had to go through it because

582
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Speaker 3: you was at BYU, which is a great place, great

583
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Speaker 3: screw being in the Big twelve. But now you at

584
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Speaker 3: your Almarad and being at Kentucky And like you said,

585
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Speaker 3: it's about hanging banners winning championships. It's not just to

586
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Speaker 3: come there and go to the INCMA tournament and lose

587
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Speaker 3: in the second round or the third round. No, we

588
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Speaker 3: want to see championships team. You know the pedigree, you

589
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: walk through those floors, You've been through that city. So

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Speaker 3: I just want to know how that all that feels.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's really humbling, you know, it's incredibly humbling. You know, listen,

592
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Speaker 4: you know, John, I was the opposite of you. I

593
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: was a terrible basketball player, like you, one of the

594
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Speaker 4: best dudes better put on jersey. Like the fact that

595
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Speaker 4: I got here was a little bit of a mistake.

596
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Speaker 4: And the fact that I got to play at the league.

597
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Speaker 4: I think the league is still trying to recover from.

598
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Speaker 2: That that era.

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Speaker 4: But but uh, but I am like the world's biggest

600
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Speaker 4: fan and uh and I love I love this university. Man, Like, uh, John,

601
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Speaker 4: I'll tell your story. You're gonna love CJ. You gonna

602
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Speaker 4: love this. So my family grew up on Kentucky. So

603
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Speaker 4: my second oldest daughter, Avery, So she grew up she

604
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Speaker 4: didn't know that there was a word that was just blue.

605
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Speaker 4: She thought Kentucky blue was one word, right, So she

606
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 4: would go to class and people like, what's your favorite color.

607
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Speaker 4: She's six years older in school and they say, what's

608
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Speaker 4: your favorite color? She'd be like Kentucky blue, and she

609
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: would get weird looks, but it just amunated her. So

610
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Speaker 4: that game where we played, you remember that game where

611
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Speaker 4: Travis Leslie dunket on boogie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that was the charge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, see I like that. So so I mean, you

614
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Speaker 4: guys got the weird which was mad, right, But so

615
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 4: we're just to give you a sense of like how

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Speaker 4: we feel about this this this place. So it was

617
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Speaker 4: my first first and only year at Georgia, just kind

618
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Speaker 4: of as an assistant to the director operations and we're

619
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Speaker 4: in Georgia. I'm working for the great Mark coach Fox,

620
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Speaker 4: who's on the staff now I love so much, who's

621
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Speaker 4: been a mentor of mine for a long time. And

622
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Speaker 4: we come into Rut and you know, my girls grew

623
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Speaker 4: up like our dog is named Rup, like this place,

624
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Speaker 4: this place means to me, right, and so so we

625
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: were coming up. So I fly up and then the

626
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Speaker 4: girls drive up. They get here and Avery at this

627
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Speaker 4: time is like six or seven years old, and it's

628
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Speaker 4: the girl's first time my daughters. I have four daughters,

629
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Speaker 4: their first time, I ever seven foot in rough and Avery.

630
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Speaker 4: They so they go to the Hyatt. They're in the hotel,

631
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Speaker 4: they're changing to go to the game, and Leanne pulls

632
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Speaker 4: out these red Georgia T shirts and Avery had a breakdown.

633
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Speaker 4: She's like, mom, she's six. She said, Mom, I cannot

634
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Speaker 4: wear a Georgia T shirt into rupp Arena. Like I'm

635
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Speaker 4: not doing that. So Lee gave her a big conversation

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Speaker 4: about like, hey, we got it. You know, we're supporting

637
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 4: the teams that are paying the bills, right.

638
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

639
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: So the compromise was they stopped it, got some Kentucky socks,

640
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: so even she wouldn't she would not interrupt Areena if

641
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 4: she didn't have at least some Kentucky socks on. And

642
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: that's what it means to me to be here. So

643
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Speaker 4: you can imagine that like I love this place like

644
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Speaker 4: like you can't imagine. And then in terms of in

645
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: terms of us filling in, come on, man, you in

646
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: college coaching, one of the oldest adages you never take

647
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Speaker 4: the job after John Wooden. And I'm just dumb enough

648
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: to take the job after all time revolutionary Hall of Famer,

649
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Speaker 4: one of the greatest coaches ever walked on the face

650
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Speaker 4: of planet, John Caliperi. And so you know that part

651
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: is super humbling, you know, but we understand the assignment,

652
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: we understand the job, and we're going full speed ahead. It.

653
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: I love Cal. You know, Cal has been so incredibly

654
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: gracious to me when I was starting and coaching. Cal

655
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: let us let me bring a Utah Valley team here

656
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 4: and actually play him uh here at rapp Arena several

657
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: years ago. Every time I've seen him on the road,

658
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: he's been so gracious and encouraging.

659
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: And then I was.

660
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 4: Actually having conversation with two days before we found out

661
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 4: public and this job was open and then we were

662
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: just at the SEC meetings. Man, he's one of the

663
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: great great coach of human beings in this league. So

664
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: all of that put together gives you a sense of

665
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: what this place means to us and how daunting this

666
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: job is. And there's no place I'd rather be. Man,

667
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: Let's take on.

668
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: The challenge and go.

669
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: You know you're right, hey, John, We're gonna make you proud. Man,

670
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: We're going to make you proud of your alma mater.

671
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 4: That's that's my goal. I take that really personally and seriously.

672
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: We'll saying that. Do you think, John, do you have

673
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: plans to get out there? Like, are there players that

674
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: have John come talk to the guys And I know John,

675
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch some games. So I wanted to know

676
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: if there's any conbo or maybe we can start the

677
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: convo here, how John could be you know, support continue

678
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: to support the program.

679
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: Well listen, just just from my standpoint, John, just you

680
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: being around the program.

681
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: Come on.

682
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: You know we talked about all the time. One of

683
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: the amazing things happening here right now is you guys

684
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: might have seen this. And this is with a ton

685
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: of respect to the Big East. I think the Big

686
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: East are tremendous, tremendous conference. They put out a tweet

687
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: right before the NBA playoffs started said, you know, the

688
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: Big East, we have fifteen players. That's a bull of

689
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: fifteen players from the Big East playing in the NBA playoffs.

690
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: And that is that's an incredible number. It is, it's incredible,

691
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: except that not accept that. And it also should be

692
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: noted that Kentucky by themselves had twenty two players playing

693
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: in the NBA playoffs this year, right, And so the

694
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: one thing is like, we need your help, like this

695
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 4: is it? Like John wall I mean, uh, there there

696
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: were actually surveys that I saw recently, said John wall is,

697
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: the current is the most popular Kentucky player on the

698
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: face of the planet right now, like that that was

699
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: actually the results of a survey that was done locally.

700
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: I mean, John, this thing right here, I don't know

701
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: if you said it.

702
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: It goes a long way for sure, man Like. And so,

703
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: so this is it.

704
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: The one thing I know about Kentucky basketball. It's a family.

705
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: It's been that, uh, from when I was here to

706
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: the generations we're forore to the generations of after. And

707
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: I do think that everyone got a chance to put

708
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: on this jersey. It means something to us, and and

709
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: and we're all trying to be as successful as we can.

710
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: So uh, you know, you think about the weight of

711
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: of of John and his legacy here and what he

712
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: means this program.

713
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: You know.

714
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't need to tell you guys, but

715
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: Kentucky was not at it finest moment when you and

716
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: and Eric and and and DeMarcus rolled in here with

717
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: that crew. Uh, and you guys fix it like you

718
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: guys fix it one season and with coach Cali Perry, right, Yeah.

719
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: And and so that means a lot.

720
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: Uh that that's always gonna be a lot here at

721
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: Kentucky and and all of us being together is kind

722
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: of what separates Kentucky from everywhere else.

723
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was my goal.

724
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: That was our goal going into there that years, Like

725
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: we got to bring basketball back to life here, like

726
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: we know what the history has been here. I'm definitely

727
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: gonna come to games for sure, you know that. And

728
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: I definitely got to continue my ritual of throwing up

729
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: the why. So yeah, definitely get to see me.

730
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: I like that a lot.

731
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: And then and that's the man like mentoring these young

732
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: guys you know, you know, or these veteran guys like.

733
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ain't too many young guys that they VISs

734
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: ain't not many freshmen there, but but but but.

735
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: Vets in terms of you know, but but also young

736
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: in terms of this Kentucky experience, right, And that's that's

737
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: where all of our former players, we just have a

738
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: commodity that nobody has. I mean, nobody else has the

739
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: reach and breath of the players before and players after it.

740
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the places that make

741
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: this place great.

742
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: And that's one of my questions I wanted to ask you,

743
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: is like have you explained to them what Big Blue

744
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: Nation mean? Like, I know, like a lot of kids

745
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: have played against Kentucky or watched Kentucky, but I don't

746
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: think they really know what Big Blue Nation mean until

747
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: you put that jersey on and get the walk in there.

748
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: And I know when they walked into the practice city

749
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: or just walking around Cambus, it was a shocker to.

750
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: Them, you know.

751
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: So one of the things I like to do is

752
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: Repperena is like Reparena is a sacred building. To me,

753
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: it just is sacred. So one of the things that

754
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: I've done with every single recruit is we'll walk into

755
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: the to the top, or we'll go in on the

756
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: upside the upper street into rupp Aerena and then walk it.

757
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: I'll take the guys and just want one at a

758
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: time and just go sit with them in the upper deck.

759
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: We go all the way about ten rows from the top. John,

760
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if Coach Kyle ever made you go

761
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: touch the wall, but Coach p made us run up

762
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: and go touch the walls. We turned it over. Whatever

763
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: goes to like, go touch the wall, and then there's

764
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: a lot of other words with that.

765
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't never touched the wall before.

766
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: Let me tell you this, man, it's steep up there,

767
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: but I'm telling you, like, it's something really special to

768
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: go sit there in the quiet of that gym and

769
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: just take in what it looks like from ten rows

770
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: down from the top. And so we'll spend some time

771
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: and we look at the jerseys up on the wall

772
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: and talk about the history guys that have run through there.

773
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: It's actually super special.

774
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Me. I love it.

775
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: I could do it every day for the rest of

776
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: my life. I love it so much being in that

777
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: building and look at those banners up on the wall.

778
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: And then the other thing we talk about is we

779
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: talk about the people that come and sit in those

780
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: seats that it's probably people a lot of times that

781
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: have spent their whole lifetime chairing for Kentucky that have

782
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: met this is the first time they ever have got

783
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 4: to come sit in those seats. And when our guys

784
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: get to actually think about that and understand that, like,

785
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: that's the beginnings of them kind of starting to comprehend

786
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: what BBN is and what a it's a unique in

787
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: the landscape of athletics that we get to come compete

788
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: for these people.

789
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: That's one thing I gotta do. I gotta go away

790
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: to the top. I've never been there.

791
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: And I know another thing that's gonna get them spooped

792
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: is when Midnight madn is coming. That's the first experience

793
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: I got, and I was like, Wow, there's no way

794
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: a place to have twenty four thousand people in it.

795
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. It's bigger than it's bigger than most NBA arenas.

796
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there's any NBA arenas that big now, right,

797
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: They've got them all the eighteen seventeen nineteen.

798
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like eighteen nineteen maybe twenty twenty one

799
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: couple of them, but I don't think.

800
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: No, it's bigger than that one.

801
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: Thou. Well, and listen, you changed me in that mass

802
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: a little bit too. Now we walked in and did

803
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: you think that? I mean, come on, that's one of

804
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 4: the you think about. It's hard to have an iconic

805
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: moment in the history you at Kentucky basketball is. There's

806
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: so many moments that might be one of them.

807
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Coach, do you have any players on the team that

808
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: have personalities like John and Boogie and some of those

809
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: guys who we sort of learned about that during midnight madness?

810
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if anybody can pull that off,

811
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 4: Like we'll say, I don't know if anybody can pull

812
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: that off, right, But we have some guys, I'll tell you.

813
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: We have some guys. We have some guys that love

814
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 4: this game. We have some guys that want to come compete.

815
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: We have some guys that are saying, you know what

816
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: I'm willing to do right now, I'm willing to set

817
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: aside my personal ambition because I want I want nothing

818
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: more than to come win, wear this jersey and hang

819
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 4: a band or whatever it takes. If I get a start,

820
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: if I got to come off the bench, if I

821
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: get average thirty, if I got to average four, you know,

822
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: we got we got a bunch of guys I think

823
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: that are trying to live in that space. I think

824
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: we have a chance to put together a really special

825
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 4: team with this group.

826
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: That's dope when you found out. And what I love

827
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: about Kentucky is the alumni is so rich, a long list.

828
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: So who's reached out since you know, you getting the

829
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: job and any like advice or stories or you know

830
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: who you who you've heard from since getting this job?

831
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, listen, the list is so long, right,

832
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: the guys have been so generous. What's interesting is like

833
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: and this is what you'd expect. The fans have been

834
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: unbelievably supportive, Like they've been incredibly sport starting with the

835
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: press corps. I mean, you know, you think about this,

836
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: You got almost thirty thousand people to show up for

837
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: a press conference. Five thousand people had to be turned away.

838
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: That had nothing to do with me, That just had

839
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: to do with BBN. Say hey we're still here, right

840
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: and then and then what's fun about the former players

841
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: is pretty universally you know, John I don't think you

842
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: totally threatened me the first time, but you kind of

843
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: did with your eyes. I kind of get it says

844
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: about don't you mess this up. This is especially who

845
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 4: this up? Baby, And that's definitely what I'm getting from

846
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: my former teammates. But I think university of the guys

847
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: feel like that, and I dig it. That's how it's

848
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: should be here, right, you know, there is something there

849
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: is something that means a lot to me about you know,

850
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 4: if you take us as a general, is generation after

851
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: generation after generation of players, about us having a chance

852
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: now as former players to come have some ownership over

853
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: this program, some real ownership over the program. I think

854
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 4: that's actually super special. But I think it's also a

855
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: lot of pressure because, like, man, I'm telling you, it

856
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: means a lot to me. I can't even explain to

857
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: you what it's going to mean to me to have

858
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: John wall be like, you know what, I'm actually proud

859
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: of my guys. I'm really proud of what's happening there,

860
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: or or the DeMarcus cousin, Eric Blutsoe, or or any

861
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: of the guys that came before them, after them, like

862
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: these guys, these guys have built this incredible place. It's

863
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: our job to make them proud, and and and so

864
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 4: I think it's special to have. This is a is

865
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 4: a player run organization. My teams are player run teams.

866
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: And I like the fact that this program right now

867
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: is a chance to do a more player run program.

868
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: Can you can you share with me your biggest big

869
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: Blue Nation memory, like your favorite memory of all time

870
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: for you?

871
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you might be.

872
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: Able to relate to this. So so I got a

873
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: blunch of stand out in my mind. But you know,

874
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: I'd been here. I was here for three years, and

875
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: it was it was I had this experience my third year.

876
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 4: I got to say this with the exactly right words.

877
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: But so we won a championship, We did all the stuff.

878
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: We came back and then we were doing autograph signing

879
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: at the mall here in Lexington. I don't even know

880
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: if the mall is still here. And so we were

881
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: there and I don't know, guys, we were there for

882
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: three or four hours, and and John, you you understand

883
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 4: this fan base. But it was a line wrapping around

884
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: the mall outside of the mall like twice, and it

885
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 4: was like ten people. Why, it was just insane. So

886
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 4: we were there for a long time. I don't even

887
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: think we got to like twenty five percent of people,

888
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: but we're there our like three and and then you

889
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: know how, you just signing going to the next person,

890
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: trying to be as kind as a kid and trying

891
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: to be nice, you know, and and give her attention,

892
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: but also trying to get to the next person. So

893
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I look out of the corner

894
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: of my eye and there's there's a man there that

895
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 4: must have been all he must have been late forties,

896
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: early fifties, and and he had put in a hard

897
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: day's work, maybe eastern Kentucky, but you could clearly tell

898
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 4: that he had just come straight from work. And for

899
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: the rest of my life I remember seeing his face

900
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: because he had tears streaming out his face as he

901
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: got to the front line and been waiting in here

902
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: for several hours. And it was at that moment it

903
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: was just one of those moments where I'm like, oh man,

904
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: this Kentucky basketball is way bigger. You know. I thought

905
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: I was the guy, right, we just want a champion.

906
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: I thought I was important. I was like this this

907
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: is way bigger than me, Like this jersey is way

908
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: bigger than me. It's way bigger than coach Patino. It's

909
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 4: way bigger than any coach or it's even probably bigger

910
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 4: than John wallerf That's it is, for sure. It just is.

911
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: It's like in people's heart and soul here And he wasn't.

912
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: He wasn't in tears. It's like grown man that has

913
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: spent more days working in the dark than I could

914
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: ever possibly imagine. But but he was here because of

915
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: this Kentucky Jersey, right, And I just don't know if

916
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 4: there's anywhere else that has that. I just think it

917
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 4: sets it aside. So you asked me about memories where

918
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 4: I felt like, Oh, I start to understand this place

919
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: That'll stand out of my life forever.

920
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like it's basically they protein, bro It's

921
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: like they protein. It's like the NBA team to them.

922
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: So being in Kentucky, even when you go on tours,

923
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: you probably go to the litwist town that you don't expect,

924
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: and if they get one chance to meet you at

925
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: an autograph signing or even out to eat or at

926
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: a game, it's like it's the best thing they ever done.

927
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: Like they don't care about who wins the NBA Championship.

928
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: Who win the NFL Championship is all about Kentucky. So

929
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: it's a special place to be.

930
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Amen to that coach.

931
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: I one shout out here because I think some fans

932
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: who are new to you didn't know you played in

933
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: the NBA, like with some real greats here like Ray Allen,

934
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Sam Cassel, Carmelo Anthony. So I wanted to ask you, like,

935
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: who is one of your favorite teammates in the NBA

936
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: and do you have any stories you know, playing with

937
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: those guys.

938
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

939
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: I was really blessed, you know, I was really blessed

940
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: to be in that league at all and play might

941
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: be a stretch I sat for most of my career,

942
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: but I was really blessed.

943
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: You know.

944
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: One of the things that I was really blessed about

945
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: is in the NBA. I think you just kind of

946
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: walk in and then you learn from the guys that

947
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: are there. You learn how to be a pro, right

948
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: and you there's no instruction, man, So you just kind

949
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: of walk into a locker room and those guys teach

950
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: you what it means to be a pro. And so

951
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: my rookie year, I was on that great he had

952
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: a pacers team from the last dance that lost to

953
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: Mike in Game seven of the Eastern Conference Finals, right,

954
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: and you think about how blessed am I? Man? I

955
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: got to walk in and Larry Bird, Larry Bird is

956
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: a head coach, and Reggie Miller, the great Reggie Miller.

957
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: Man is like one of the great leaders I've ever

958
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 4: been around in the game of basketball. And Mark Jackson,

959
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Jackson was like you talk about

960
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: you talk about like John, you could have made it

961
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: down and back and down and back by the time

962
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: Jacks would have crossed half court. But that dude was

963
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: a like he was a straight up baller. And you

964
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: know Jalen Rose on that team, and Antonio and Dale

965
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: Davis like Chris Mullet and Rick Smith's and you know,

966
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: I got to walk into that locker room not knowing anything,

967
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: and from day one I was like, Oh, I got

968
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: the greatest education on what it meant to be a

969
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: pros pro, a real pro for those guys. And I'll

970
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: always be able to be grateful to those guys on

971
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: that rookie team. Man, I was really blessed, really blessed.

972
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome. My last question here is actually for John.

973
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: Since John has been part of the program a little

974
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: bit more recent than you have. I wanted to ask John,

975
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: what's your one piece of advice having been there more

976
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: recently the coach to give him as he starts his

977
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: season as the head coach of the Kentucky Wildcats.

978
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: Well, I really don't think I can give him no

979
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: advice because he knows. I think he played there, He's

980
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: seen the experience. For me, it was different though, Like

981
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: he said, they had went to like two inn I

982
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: t so we were just trying to get Kentucky basketball

983
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: back on the map, put him in that platform. So

984
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: for him, I think he already knows the right way

985
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: to go with it. Like you said, how much it

986
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: means to him, how much it means to his family,

987
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: Like even his daughter having it. Talk about when y'a

988
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: had with the Georgia shirt on, She's like, no, I

989
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: have to put something with Kentucky blue on it.

990
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: So I think you know that.

991
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: I think just been around that environment, been around those fans,

992
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: like they know how much they love basketball. I think

993
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: you said, like having your first practice, letting them guys

994
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: instilled in them how you want the program to go,

995
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: how you want them to play. Still figuring that out,

996
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: but I think just then walking around campus and when

997
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: they get to go through their first scrimmage or first

998
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: preseason game, there really know how much it means to

999
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: play for Big Bow Nations. So I think you got

1000
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: him in a great position. I hope you have a

1001
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: great first year. I know it's gonna be a sighting.

1002
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: You can't wait to walk out there and put your

1003
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: little suit on or whatever you're gonna wear for your

1004
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: first game and just to see how loud the crowd gets.

1005
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be amazing experience for you. So

1006
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you to have that job. I'm definite

1007
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: happy to have the opportunity to come out and support

1008
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: and you have my information, so we're locked in.

1009
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 4: Man, John, I'm sure great. Hey, you know the world

1010
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: on the seat is Eric Lesso playing on the tv T.

1011
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: No, I ain't playing on TVT. They trying to get

1012
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: me to go play in it not.

1013
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is like, Hey, you know, it's

1014
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: July nineteenth, man, it could be a fun time. We're

1015
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: gonna have the whole team that we're trying to We're

1016
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: trying to get the whole team. We're gonna go crazy

1017
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: for these former players. Man, they're playing that rock. You know,

1018
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: it's that rough. We're gonna bring the house down, Like,

1019
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: I can't wait to have those cats back in here,

1020
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: Like it's gonna be happening.

1021
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: To Ulus coaching the right, Tyler Ewlis coaching.

1022
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler's coaching them. In fact, they got like, ah,

1023
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: I think that they're coaching staff. I think they got

1024
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: five or six guys on the coaching staff. But it's

1025
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: it's like this is a legit. This group is gonna

1026
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: be so fun.

1027
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad they did it like that because you

1028
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: look at some of these alumni schools got there, but

1029
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: some of the kids never went to that school, never

1030
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: did anything for the school. So I'm glad they keeping

1031
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: all the Kentucky tied together. That should be dope.

1032
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say here, coach, this is a good

1033
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: sign because you just try to re recruit John Wall

1034
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: to the program again, so we know how much you wanted.

1035
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: That was dope.

1036
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, I know, Tyler, I don't know what, but

1037
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: I know I know he hasn't finished trying to get

1038
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 4: you on this team.

1039
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: I know trust he has I know, Coach, good luck, man.

1040
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate you and in time, I know, I know

1041
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: your time is precious right now, So appreciate you coming

1042
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: on the pod. And I'm excited to see what you

1043
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: guys do, and I'm excited to see John interact with

1044
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: you guys. And you're in your tenure at at Kentucky.

1045
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: So appreciate you, man, CJ.

1046
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 4: John, Super great for you, guys.

1047
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: Man, Thanks coach, Thanks coach.

1048
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back to point game with John Long. CJ. TOLDONNOD

1049
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,000
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1050
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Speaker 1: You ready for this, uh this uh installment of Bucketer Brick.

1055
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: You know it all right.

1056
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: So the season's over, Celtics with the champs. But DraftKings

1057
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: odds have the Celtics at plus two ninety and big

1058
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: favorites to win it again next year. So Bucketer Brick,

1059
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: the Celtics are going to repeat next year.

1060
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: I say, I say, bucket and.

1061
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: You were right about them winning this year, So why

1062
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna repeat.

1063
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: I think they bring the same team back. I just

1064
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: think they're gonna get even stronger, and they probably add

1065
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: a piece of two. But I think all those guys

1066
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: coming back, And the only concern I did have is

1067
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: that if they would have lost Al Horford, but he

1068
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: said he's not retired, he's coming back. So I think

1069
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: they helped their team out even a lot more because

1070
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: they got through the finals. I mean, they got through

1071
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: the most of the playoffs without Pazingis and now Horford

1072
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: had to step in and play that role for them,

1073
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: So I think that was big for him.

1074
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: He got his confidence up.

1075
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Who would you say, like what is their biggest weakness?

1076
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Like how do you improve that Celtics team this summer?

1077
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: I would say maybe, I don't know the way they

1078
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: stacker their team to like they take Jaln Brown out,

1079
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 3: or they take Jowady out in the substitute like somebody else,

1080
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: seeing like with Sam Hows and somebody. I think the

1081
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Speaker 3: only weakness they have if they live and die by

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Speaker 3: the three. That's the only thing at times. But other

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Speaker 3: than that, I don't see no weakness. They all can guard.

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Speaker 3: They all can create and put the ball on the floor.

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Speaker 3: Like I was saying before, you have to guard. Everybody's accountable.

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Speaker 3: They could everybody I went through five and catch the

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Speaker 3: ball and dribble seth. If you bring like Sam How's

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Speaker 3: on the bench, He's just they knocked down shooting for them.

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Speaker 3: But everybody else on they team can catch and shoot,

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Speaker 3: put the ball on the floor, and can defend at

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Speaker 3: a high level. So I don't really see too many

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Speaker 3: weaknesses for them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's move on here. A DraftKings has

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Speaker 1: Luka Doncic at plus three seventy, only behind Yo Kitch

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Speaker 1: for MVP next season, so bucket to Brick, Luca will

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Speaker 1: be the MVP next year.

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Speaker 3: Brick, I think if Joelin beat is healthy, I think

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Speaker 3: he wins EVP. I think he would have won it

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Speaker 3: this year, to be honest, So I say maybe joelan

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Speaker 3: Bhay if Shakee caps the rosh up like he did

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Speaker 3: last year.

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Speaker 2: I think those are my two favorites next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if Joel's healthy and then they do

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Speaker 1: get that new piece. With Tobias's contract running out and

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Speaker 1: a lot of this time, it's like the number one team.

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Speaker 1: The team is winning, and I feel like you're right.

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Speaker 1: If the Sixers are healthy and they're winning and Joel

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Speaker 1: continues to be their best player, it's got to go

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Speaker 1: to him.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think number one could have had. Number

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00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: one Sha should have got they had THEMB one team,

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Speaker 3: you remember.

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Speaker 1: But that was that was close, like we really good.

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Speaker 2: It was close. It was close for sure.

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Speaker 3: And and then I also understand like how nobody from

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00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: the Celtis get in the MVP conversation. Is it because

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Speaker 3: they are beating everybody by so much? Like yeah, it's

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00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: like it's just weird to me, because how the narrative

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Speaker 3: has changes. You had to make All Star games if

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Speaker 3: you was winning, You had to make all NBA teams

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Speaker 3: if you was winning. Usually when teams are one or two,

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Speaker 3: they always get two or three guys in the All

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Speaker 3: Star Game, at least two guys or it just changes though.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the narrative is now, but it

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Speaker 2: is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, moving on here, Bucket or Brick, whatever

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Speaker 1: team you're on next year is going to be a

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Speaker 1: playoff contender.

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Speaker 2: Bucket for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about it a little bit, I'm a missing

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00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: piece to a couple of teams, like just a point

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00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: guard that can run a team, you know, I mean,

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00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: come off the bench, whatever road that I'm willing to accept.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I have a lot left in

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00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: the tank to help a team out, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, because I can still defend, I can knock down,

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00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: catch and shoot threes, and I can create and just

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00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: find guys. But whatever role it is, I'm willing to

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00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: accelp you know what I mean. If it's being a

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00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: third guy, being a third point guard, if somebody else

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00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: get hurt and then get opportunity play, or of its

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00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: being the second point guard that comes in behind the

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Speaker 3: starting point guard, I'm fine with that role.

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Speaker 1: Whatever team. I'm buying that jersey, whatever team you're on,

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Speaker 1: or you got to send me that.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah for sure. Yeah all right.

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Speaker 1: So finally this was like the drama's already started a

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00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: little bit in the NBA. But the detectives out there

1149
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: found out that Clay unfollowed the Warriors, deleted our Warriors

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00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: content on his Instagram. So bucket to brick. Clay Thompson's

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00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: going to be on the Warriors next season.

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Speaker 3: Brick, I see Klay Thompson leaving this summer, I see

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00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: him going up somewhere else, and I think they split

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Speaker 3: the dynasty up.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they trying to split it up.

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Speaker 3: I think Clay just for like his times is up

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00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: with the Warriors, and I feel like he wants to

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00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 3: just go somewhere new and kind of start fresh.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you said it on previous episodes with Kaminga,

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Speaker 1: and everyone knew like Kaminga wasn't happy with the playing

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Speaker 1: time he got. Then actually Curse started playing the more

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00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: and they went on that little streak there, so kind

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00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: of give us a little bit more that that opinion

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Speaker 1: that you had of like Kaminga is their number two option.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just know how gifted Kamingo was. I've seen

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00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: him playing my John Walladay imitation. I watched him through

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Speaker 3: a high school. I just know like for him, it

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00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: was kind of tough early on because they were throwing

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Speaker 3: the ball in the post, and you know with the

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Speaker 3: wards with Clay Thompson and Steph and Jordan Pool, most

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Speaker 3: of the time that's not the scores to Washington come

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Speaker 3: off of actually get throwing backdoor cuts. So he shoot

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Speaker 3: passing the ball for threes. Condition you see the offense change.

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Speaker 3: He got the ball and he was able to be aggressive,

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Speaker 3: able to be a score. I think they kind of

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Speaker 3: helped him grow a little bit better. You could tell

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Speaker 3: just how much confident he got it much happy he was.

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Speaker 3: And I think they kind of moved Clay from them

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Speaker 3: the number two option cond of to the three, third

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Speaker 3: or fourth option because they still had Wiggins. And I

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Speaker 3: think Clay it's kind of going to be like a

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Speaker 3: catch and shoot guy and a defending for whatever team

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00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: he goes to. So I think it's a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams where they probably gonna have a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: that double team a lot like I think like a

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Speaker 3: team like the Magic could use them very well. I

1187
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Speaker 3: think a team like Clippers could use them. I think

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00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: a team like Philly could use him. Even a team

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Speaker 3: like Denverer could use it. I mean a guy that

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Speaker 3: can if you double team and Yoki, she's a guy

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Speaker 3: in the wing that got a great catching shoot and

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00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: we know he's in the rhythm, his confidence is there.

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00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: He's one of the top five best shoots that I

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Speaker 3: have seen in the league history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, John, this has been officially the

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Speaker 1: last episode of this particular season a point game with

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Speaker 1: John wall I want to say to the fans, if

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Speaker 1: want to leave the fans on our summer break before

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Speaker 1: we know when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I want to cry. I'm sad. Now what do

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Speaker 2: you do?

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Speaker 1: What do you do during this downtime with with this a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of spend a lot of time with my kids,

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Speaker 3: continue to work out, work on my game, Spend a

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Speaker 3: for sure, I'm going to do that. I don't never

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Speaker 3: right now, daring to sports, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: They're doing all their sports activities so they get to

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