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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, thanks for pulling up a share Today on

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Speaker 1: Table for two. We're back at my favorite joint, the

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Speaker 1: Sunset Tower here in Los Angeles on this incredible summer day.

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Speaker 2: I'll take some water please and can Arnold Palmers.

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Speaker 1: As today we're having lunch with a young lady who's

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Speaker 1: been in the business since she was a young kid,

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Speaker 1: so she has seen it all and she's only in

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Speaker 1: her early thirties. She's a single mom. She's clearly the

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Speaker 1: muse of mister Ryan Murphy. She has started in many

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Speaker 1: of his American horror story seasons. She's also coming out

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Speaker 1: with a movie called Space Cadet. She has a book imprint,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to be talking about her love of

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Speaker 1: books and reading. She's an all around incredible person and

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Speaker 1: super fun to hang out with, so this lunch is

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of laughs. We were having

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Speaker 1: lunch with this incredible woman who's walking towards me right now,

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Speaker 1: Miss Emmory. Hey, I'm Bruce Bossi and this is my

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Speaker 1: podcast Table for two. Okay, so if you've pulled up

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Speaker 1: a shirt today, as I was saying, we are having

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Speaker 1: lunch at the Tower Bar. It's a beautiful summer day.

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Speaker 2: It is a beautiful day.

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Speaker 1: We're having lunch with a person that I hold very

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Speaker 1: close to my heart. I know you since you bore

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Speaker 1: in your twenties. Yeah, a young woman. I've seen you

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Speaker 1: grow into the woman you are beautiful as we all know,

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Speaker 1: missus Emma Roberts. Hi, Hi, welcome to the table for two.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I was just saying that

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've been with you all week because

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Speaker 2: I've been catching up on your podcast. So hearing your

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Speaker 2: voice is just like comforting.

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Speaker 1: That is sweet. Did you eat? I mean assume we're

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Speaker 1: going to eat.

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Speaker 2: We can eat. I usually get the chop salad here.

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Speaker 1: I usually get the chop salad here. You put a

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Speaker 1: protein in it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do. I put chicken in it, really really

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Speaker 2: really fancy.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about Space Cadet because I know

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Speaker 1: that's coming. That's dropping soon July fourth, July fourth.

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Speaker 2: Even if you just watch the trailer, you can see

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Speaker 2: that it's like a super feel good, fun summer movie.

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Speaker 1: Well you get a script like that, is that your

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Speaker 1: basis for choosing it is? It's like, okay, like I

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Speaker 1: just want a fun summer easy groove.

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Speaker 2: I mean for me, it's actually funny because Space Cadet.

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Speaker 2: First of all, the title. When it came into my

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Speaker 2: email inbox, I was like, Okay, I know I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: love this so much that I don't even want to

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Speaker 2: gonna be bombed. Yeah, because it wasn't a straight offer.

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Speaker 2: And so I met with the writer director, Liz Garcia,

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Speaker 2: who is absolutely amazing, and we've for like a decade

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Speaker 2: were like, they're gonna look at some other people and

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Speaker 2: take some time. And so year went by and I

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Speaker 2: had forgotten about it, because you have to kind of

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Speaker 2: purposely forget about things that you don't get always. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's too disappointing. And so yeah, my agents were calling me,

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Speaker 2: and they were calling me in a group, and you know,

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Speaker 2: when there's a group calling, you either got a part

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Speaker 2: I had gotten.

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Speaker 1: Apart, and so right, you don't know where it's going

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Speaker 2: I was like, if there's three of you on, that's

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Speaker 1: We need to have a conversation with you.

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Speaker 2: So they were like, remember that movie Space Get Ahead,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, stop, shut up, and they're like

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Speaker 2: it's you. So they we're going to shoot this summer

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god. And I was just

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Speaker 2: so excited because when I read the script to go

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Speaker 2: back to your original question, it was just like I

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Speaker 2: nostalgic in the ways that like legally Blonde and Private

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Speaker 2: Benjamin and kind of those fishadow Water stories. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and your character is that you really embody that

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Speaker 2: And they're the unlikely and intelligent, like intelligenctly street smart,

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Speaker 2: liked the messaging a lot. I feel like for young people,

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Speaker 2: and I just hadn't seen this kind of story before.

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Speaker 2: Like I love space movies, but you know, there we do.

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Speaker 1: I like which ones, like what are the faiths?

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Speaker 2: Interstellar okay, CRMB my Eyes Out Arrival okay, my favorite

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Speaker 2: Point being that space movies are it's pretty sad or

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Speaker 2: It's like four younger people to watch. Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if your daughter's like, hold her daughter, now, I've scared you even.

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Speaker 1: Out turning seventeen.

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Speaker 2: No, in my mind, she's taen.

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Speaker 1: I know. I mean, you know from the Begame. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's frightening. We'll circle back to that. But

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Speaker 2: my point is a ten year old could watch this movie.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, I feel like there'st have a lot

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Speaker 1: That is really tough to watch with your mother.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think someone needs to start like a blog

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Speaker 2: that's like movies to not watch with your parents, because

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Speaker 2: especially with like streaming now, like you click or you.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, right, you don't know, and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you're like looking at that scene in your bathtub

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so anyone else there that wants to start

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Speaker 1: I think we'll do well. I think that's great. So okay,

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Speaker 1: so that movie, So that resonated and it hits this summer.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're doing some promotion. So we're having a premiere

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Speaker 1: That's exciting. End of June.

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Speaker 2: At my favorite theater. I love to give a shout

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love I love a shout out

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Speaker 2: Tonight, I'm still upset about the arc Lay closing. I

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Speaker 1: All closed now they're all closed. FYI you say it,

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Speaker 2: Do you know that Legally Blonde made me realize my

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Speaker 1: What do you think resonated with I'm gonna get it

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Speaker 1: Felt that because you not only are beautiful young, which

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Speaker 2: And also I think there's something to be said where

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Speaker 2: calling out George Clooney for being a neo baby. It's

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone should be called out wanting to

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Speaker 1: Again the male female thing they did. But you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, it comes from a place of

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Speaker 1: That's important. It's important to remember them because you do,

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Speaker 1: Can you give me an example of a book that

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Speaker 1: story that that has happened with you totally?

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Speaker 2: First, I just want to say that my sister was

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Speaker 2: twenty three. She when she was sixteen and seventeen, she'd

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Speaker 2: just say I hate reading. And I'm like, don't ever

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Speaker 2: say that to me again. I was like, don't you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't say that to people either. I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's not a good look. Fine, And so she kept

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Speaker 2: saying it and saying and finally I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be proactive. I was like, maybe she

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Speaker 2: just hasn't found the right book. So I would give

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Speaker 2: her book after the book after book, never would finish,

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Speaker 2: never would finish. And funny enough, the book that we

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Speaker 2: both read together and loved in literally a week was

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Speaker 2: Daisy Jones and the Sixth which then rest made into

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Speaker 2: the show, which is amazing. But that book brought us

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Speaker 2: together in a way where like she would literally come

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Speaker 2: to me and be like, Okay, what am I reading next?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm gonna cry, Like is this

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Speaker 2: someone who said I hate reading to now is like

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Speaker 2: what are we reading next? Like it's right, and you

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Speaker 2: know it's and again it's not like I was like,

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Speaker 2: you here read War and Peace? Like what it was

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Speaker 2: Daisy Jones in the six It was fun. It's fun,

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Speaker 2: it was romance. We cried, laughed and like the fact

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Speaker 2: that's what we bonded over and that was the first

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Speaker 2: book we read together.

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Speaker 1: And two that it really is and we're back. In

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, our guest Emma Roberts joined the cast of

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Speaker 1: American Horror Story for its third season, entitled Coven. Since then,

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Speaker 1: she's worked closely with creator Ryan Murphy, appearing in multiple

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Speaker 1: seasons of the show as well as on screen queens.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, what's it been like to work together for

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Speaker 1: over a decade. You know, there are people that have

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Speaker 1: like their troops, so it was very clear. I would

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Speaker 1: argue that you were Ryan Murphy's or have been his

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Speaker 1: muse for many many years.

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Speaker 2: He's my music. I just mean like he inspires me.

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Speaker 1: He's right, man, is so talented and the American horror.

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Speaker 2: Story franchise, franchise show, I mean a franchise, so it

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Speaker 2: has become that.

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Speaker 1: How did that sort of change the trajectory of you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to short of be able, because I think it must

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Speaker 1: have not the answer for you. But I am a

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Speaker 1: little bit no kind of layering the pieces of Emma

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Speaker 1: Robert totally me. So how was that experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be the muse? Because I always like and it's

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Speaker 1: like Cassavetti's had his troop, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Woody Allen has his troop. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that was his true you know, Peter Falk.

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Speaker 1: Those are the people that I he continually worked with.

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Speaker 1: Clearly Ryan loves working with you and writes for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love him and he really, I mean even

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Speaker 2: he changed my life. I was twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: I you know, it was so funny because I would,

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Speaker 2: you know, I would audition for things and go up

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Speaker 2: for things, and everyone always saw me as kind of

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Speaker 2: like the girl next door or they like, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're kind of putting me in this category of like

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Speaker 2: a teen actress, you know, not letting me kind of

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Speaker 2: do anything edgy. And he but what he does for

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Speaker 2: so many people, by the way, women especially. He always

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Speaker 2: sees something in someone that other people don't, and that

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Speaker 2: is like one of his superpowers, I think. And not

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Speaker 2: only does he see that thing, but then he trusts

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Speaker 2: you with it and is like, okay, go right, Like

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt that he gives me this confidence that

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Speaker 2: like you can be this thing, and like I'm going

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Speaker 2: to show you what that is. And he did that

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Speaker 2: for me with American Horse Story Covin Madison Montgomery. I

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Speaker 2: was I was supposed to go down there for like

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Speaker 2: three episodes and you know we've been working together now

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Speaker 2: for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh really, Covin, you were only going to be

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Speaker 1: three episodes.

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Speaker 2: It was maybe not it was three. It was definitely

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Speaker 2: not the pore time. And that's why they killed me

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Speaker 2: and they like being brought back. That wasn't originally the plan, right,

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Speaker 2: And I think the reason that people love it is

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Speaker 2: because it was just so authentic, because I felt super confident.

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Speaker 2: I was so excited to play a role that no

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Speaker 2: one had seen me in. He really trusted me and

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Speaker 2: wrote for me, and it was just I had so

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Speaker 2: much fun and it was unexpected. Yeah, it was really unexpected.

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Speaker 2: And I remember he called me and he's like, look,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is for you. It's definitely

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Speaker 2: a little edgy in the pilot. There's some a lot

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Speaker 2: of traumatic things happened, so you know, let me know.

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, you know what, you fuck it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well you're well yeah, well, I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: very clear about you. You are a risk taker, and

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Speaker 1: you also you have you have a very strong voice,

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Speaker 1: very strong presence, meaning so like I think I can

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Speaker 1: understand why he would say that, but that your reaction

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Speaker 1: be like bringing up well, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean this Partony was like, you know, a little scared.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm not gonna lie. But when you know,

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Speaker 2: when Ryan Murphy calls calls your landline and has to

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Speaker 2: be on a show, you say.

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Speaker 1: Yes, did you answer that landline on a ride? Did

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Speaker 1: you know?

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Speaker 2: Because landlines are scary now that they You're like, no,

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Speaker 2: I was prepped beforehand that I was getting a call

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Speaker 2: that I needed to answer, so I was I was,

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Speaker 2: I'm quite literally waiting by the phone. But I was

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Speaker 2: so excited because I remember watching the pilot of a

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Speaker 2: marm Harror story the night that it aired. Remember when

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Speaker 2: we used to watch things weekly once a week or

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Speaker 2: it aired, and I was like, I love this show.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'd get anything to be on a

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Speaker 2: show like this, but it would never put me on

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Speaker 2: a show like this. And I remember like second season

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Speaker 2: as well, I was like, I'm like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: just would love the chance to be on something like this,

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Speaker 2: And so, I mean, I think I may have manifested

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Speaker 2: it a little bit, but no, it was cool and

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Speaker 2: living in New Orleans, I was twenty two, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: it changed the trajectory of my career and as an

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Speaker 2: actress definitely just gave me a whole new experience and

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Speaker 2: different level. I mean, the the people that he works

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Speaker 2: with obviously, the writers and the directors and everyone was

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Speaker 2: just such an amazing caliber that it makes you a

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Speaker 2: better actor.

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Speaker 1: Right, he sees something in you. You get in the room,

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Speaker 1: and then you deliver, which is why then consistently you're

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Speaker 1: part of his troop, because if you don't deliver, he's

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Speaker 1: not bringing you back.

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Speaker 2: No, He's I mean, and that's and that's I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've gotten the chance through working with him. The fact

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Speaker 2: that I got to work with like Sarah Pulson and

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Speaker 2: Jessica Lang. I still do this day, like, think about

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Speaker 2: the days I had with Jessica Lang, because she's such

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Speaker 2: an icon for me completely.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised when Kim Kardashian came into the conversation like,

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Speaker 1: oh okay, because I mean she's an incredibly talented sort

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Speaker 1: of very smart human. I never thought of her as

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Speaker 1: an actress.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just blown away. But then also, I

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Speaker 2: mean so because Ryan and I were talking about American

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Speaker 2: horror story Delicate, which is the latest season which has

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Speaker 2: already aired on Effects and now is streaming Undulu, and

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Speaker 2: we have been talking about casting, and I just remember

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Speaker 2: like I kept just coming up with horrible ideas. We'd

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Speaker 2: like I want to stop, and I'm like, I know

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Speaker 2: these are bad ideas, are like what's wrong with me?

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Speaker 1: And is never a wrong answer in a group think

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Speaker 1: tag totally.

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Speaker 2: You know you know what I mean? The point is

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Speaker 2: like I just I was like what I'm like, let's

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Speaker 2: all like clicking, Like I'm usually so good at coming

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Speaker 2: up with ideas. I'm just and so anyways, he called

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Speaker 2: me one day and he's like, Kim Kardashian playing your publicist.

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Speaker 2: I don't evenk he's an hide to me. And I

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Speaker 2: was like this is why you're you. I just like

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Speaker 2: that is a genius because what I loved about it

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Speaker 2: is like obviously when you watch the season, you find

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Speaker 2: out that you know, she's not just a publicist, but

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Speaker 2: the point is like putting her in the role of

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Speaker 2: like a publicist and me being an actor, like already,

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Speaker 2: that's just so such a great dynamic to play with, right,

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you, she is one of the

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Speaker 2: most prepared actors I've worked with.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've come I've come to work sometimes and

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Speaker 2: you know, people that I won't name, but you and

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Speaker 2: know who they are, like don't know theirs at all,

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Speaker 2: which whatever, it's fine, we all have those days. But

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Speaker 2: like she do every single like mine. And she also

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Speaker 2: she just looks you in the eye and do it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, like to be that kind of

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Speaker 2: open and vulnerable at some like, you know, I still

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Speaker 2: get embarrassed sometimes and I've been acting for twenty something years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know, she just she's she's super professional, confident

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Speaker 2: and just the way that she carries herself. She doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a huge entourage. She's very normal, and that was

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Speaker 2: also really inspiring to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, coming from the family and the level

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Speaker 1: of success that that family has had. You can only

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Speaker 1: get there by doing shoop of professionals, So that doesn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me. And I was just wondering, you know what

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Speaker 1: it would be like, well, what your thoughts were on that,

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Speaker 1: because I had to say I.

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Speaker 2: Was totally something. I used to buy jeans from them

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Speaker 2: at Dash in Calabasas their store, So that was the

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Speaker 2: other thing too. We were laughing a little, like I

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Speaker 2: was like, wow, and look at look at now, like

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Speaker 2: you're you and I'm on this show with you and

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Speaker 2: we're together, and I'm like, I used to buy seven

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Speaker 2: jeans from you in Calabasas, like.

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Speaker 1: Literally, I mean literally from her working in the store,

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Speaker 1: be in the store.

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Speaker 2: I think I was like twelve or thirteen. This was

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Speaker 2: right before they did their show and I had a

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Speaker 2: show on Nickelodeon, you know, and with yes, like was like, thought,

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Speaker 2: it was so cool that like I could afford to

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Speaker 2: buy like seven jeans that Dash from working, so like

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Speaker 2: it's just so funny that then now you know, this

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Speaker 2: much time later, at the end of the day, we're

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Speaker 2: just two girls from Calabasas.

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Speaker 1: You know. You bring up another point which I think

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Speaker 1: is also empowering, is becoming financially independent. She's a very

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Speaker 1: powerful thing that you know, must have felt great.

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Speaker 2: I love that you bring. No one's ever brought that

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Speaker 2: up to me, I think in an interview, No I did,

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Speaker 2: and I remember, yeah, like ever since I was very

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Speaker 2: very very young, just wanting to like be self sufficient.

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Speaker 2: I think, seeing like you know, my mom and a

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Speaker 2: lot of her friends go through a lot of really

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Speaker 2: bad divorces and breakups and stuff, and just knowing from

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Speaker 2: a very young age, especially being raised by a single

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Speaker 2: mom who like is the best, Like, I never wanted

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Speaker 2: to have to depend on anyone and almost to probably

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Speaker 2: like I shouldn't have like known that so young, but

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I did, and I'm glad that you know.

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Speaker 2: I like it was never a motivation to necessarily act

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Speaker 2: for money, but even like I would do like lemonade

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Speaker 2: stands or like you know, like even to my mom

650
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Speaker 2: if I wash the windows, can I have five dollars

651
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: if I do the like, just wanting to kind of

652
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: have that that's freedom that depends totally. And so it's

653
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: been nice. It's nice now that I have been working

654
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: so long where you know, I can support myself and

655
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: can tell about other people. And also with my son,

656
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: like to just know that I can always support him

657
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: on my own is a very freeing thing that I

658
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: know is a huge It's it's a it's a privilege,

659
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: like you know, and and and some people can't. And

660
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: I just always want to encourage people to know that

661
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: they can.

662
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's you can try. Yeah, they could try,

663
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: you could try your best. I was watching Goldie Hawns

664
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: speak once years ago. She was on a panel and

665
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: she was there with people asking her like, you know

666
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: why she married Kurt Russell on that and I was

667
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: she were talking about the relations, but she also talked

668
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: about the importance and especially of her generation specifically because

669
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: women didn't have financials becomes that the freedom she had

670
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: that and because she worked and because she was able

671
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: to like make decisions that she wanted to make that

672
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I would. It's a gift. And it's also a gift

673
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: that you knew that early and had that drive totally

674
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: because saying you know, mom, can you get five bucks

675
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: to wash the windows means like would people? Yeah, I'm

676
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: trying to instill that with my kids to say, oh, okay,

677
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: like this is the deal, Like, if you want to

678
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: do that, you have some money saved.

679
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like I just yeah, I think it's

680
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: it's it's just important to because what I was trying

681
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: to say be words. I know not everybody can, but

682
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: I want everyone to feel inspired to because I feel

683
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: like a lot of times, people, especially women, feel stuck.

684
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, like I like I said, I saw, I mean,

685
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: I saw my mom go, you know, go through a

686
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: breakup and you know, be a single mom. And you know,

687
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm so lucky that she could be a single, full

688
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: time mom and not have to leave me at you know,

689
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: a daycare, and she could spend spend all her time

690
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: with me. But even now, like I have such mom guilt.

691
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: We're away from I'm away from my son.

692
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: You know.

693
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're always working for twelve hours a day and

694
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: then on the weekend, I'm so tired, and I feel

695
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: like I'm not being my best self right and so,

696
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: but the other side that coin is like I know

697
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: that he will always know that, like his mom works

698
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: really hard and loves what she does and therefore will

699
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: always you know, be able to support him.

700
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: Right.

701
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Table for two. For someone in their

702
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: early thirties, Emma has already had a long and successful career.

703
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: She starred in the Nickelodeon series Unfabulous as a teenager,

704
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: and she has appeared in countless films and TV shows

705
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: since then. What was it like to start off in

706
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Hollywood at such a young age? That must have been

707
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: tough too, because you had to navigate adults in working

708
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: situations who I'm sure were just complete assholes.

709
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I was. I mean, I

710
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: feel like I've encountered more assholes as an adult as

711
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: a kid, which is really a good thing. But no

712
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: I will they you know, it is really interesting because

713
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: I felt like I was almost like more mature as

714
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: a kid because I had to be where like now

715
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: sometimes I feel I feel like younger than I am,

716
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: where back then I felt older than I was, if

717
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: that makes sense, And so kind of like navigating that

718
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: now we're like when I was, you know, younger, everyone

719
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: who I worked with on set was older than me.

720
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: And now a lot of people I work with are

721
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: way younger than me. And so that's really interesting because

722
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: I was always the youngest person in the room and

723
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: now I'm not. And so it's just really interesting to

724
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know, like like see how that

725
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: feels and figure that out, and like, also, I don't

726
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: know if you experienced this, but like now that I'm

727
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: in my thirties, I literally don't know how old people are,

728
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: to a point where I'm like, I'm like, how old

729
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: are you? And they're like, I'm twenty one. I'm like what, Like,

730
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: I have no concept of what seventeen is, I no

731
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: concept of sex, zero none, what's the zero?

732
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: And I take it a step further because I still

733
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: feel like I'm looking out of the lens of a

734
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: your age. Yeah, this is kind of where you get

735
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: you kind of settle into an age. And I always

736
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: say to Brian, I'm like, I look exactly like that,

737
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: like when they would like but they always have the

738
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: new school that starts at the end of August and

739
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: all these kids in their twenties, and I'm like, if

740
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I walked into that room they went on think twice

741
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, you're so old and you look

742
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: so old, but you get stuck I am, you know,

743
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: which I also think keeps you kind of like yeah, funny,

744
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, I have no sense.

745
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: My mom always says, she's like she's like my mind

746
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: is twenty, but my body has betrayed me.

747
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: It's true, it does true.

748
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: And she's like it's She's like, do you know how

749
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: unfair it is? She's like, I feel twenty and I

750
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: look in the mirror and.

751
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you do you go? Who is that?

752
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: Like?

753
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: Why is this right? I'm like, oh my god, it

754
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: really it's And yet there's a freedom that you get

755
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: as you get older, and you're feeling it already in

756
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: your thirties compared to who you were, and you were

757
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, when you or a younger actor even and

758
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: it gets better good and you get to know yourself

759
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: better and you get free. So do you care less

760
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: about Well?

761
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: I like myself more now than I have at any

762
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: other point about right, So I like, you know, I

763
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: wouldn't trade the.

764
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that nice? You like yourself totally?

765
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean it's obviously it's still like

766
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: a process, but I'm just like, I'm so much happier

767
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: with who I am and I kind of know more

768
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: like what it means to be me and what I

769
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: stand for than when I was twenty three. Like I

770
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: don't even think I was in my own body like

771
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 2: I was around like.

772
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: No, little just we were reacting and.

773
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Doing, reacting and doing totally.

774
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: That's how we were, that's where we lived our lives.

775
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, I'll take that out now. There's more intention, Yes,

776
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: and especially because you're a mom, there's intention, And because

777
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: you also are a you're a business person. You're an actress,

778
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: but you're.

779
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: A business person, always trying.

780
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: It's just sort of like maybe like an esoteric question,

781
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: what scares you and what advice advice for young actors?

782
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Shorting out? But I kind of want to put that aside.

783
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I want to over at you.

784
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Wait, I mean what scares me? I guess I mean

785
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: on an emotional level or a literal level or both both. Okay, Well,

786
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: literal would be I'm very claustrophobic. Okay, Like last night

787
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: I didn't get on sleep because I kept having this

788
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: dream that I was stuck in an elevator, which I'm

789
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: sure I can dig into on Monday with my therapist.

790
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Yes, elevator stops for a second, I can't it.

791
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Panic, Yeah, small spaces, overcrowded like that's I don't know,

792
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: it just freaks me out. And then I mean emotionally,

793
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: it used to be like being alone. Which I can

794
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: tie that into advice to younger people, which is, like

795
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: I had spent my twenties I feel like, you know,

796
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: constantly like surrounding myself with people and work and you know,

797
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: getting upset over things didn't matter, and standing too long

798
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: in relationships and worrying about you know, guys that did

799
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: not even deserve my attention instead of like getting to

800
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: know myself and sitting with myself and being alone with myself.

801
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: And I really wish upon people in their twenties, like

802
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: my sister, I'm like, go, like, spend time with yourself,

803
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: travel with yourself, like spend time alone, Like I spent

804
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: not that much time alone. And now I have a kid,

805
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: and I'm in my thirties and you know, I quite literally,

806
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: you know, will never be alone after your kid.

807
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: You're never alone.

808
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: And I don't regret it, but like, I just wish

809
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: that I had spent more time with myself, traveling and

810
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: just like getting to know myself.

811
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a big one.

812
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: And so now, like you know, it's taking a lot

813
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: of time in therapy, but I'm not scared of being alone.

814
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: And it feels so good to be able to say

815
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: that in a minute, because like I mean, from when

816
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: I was, like, you know, however long till I was,

817
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, thirty one years old, like I was definitely

818
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: like scared to be by myself and spend time with myself.

819
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's a really important and I

820
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: love that that's what you're saying, because I think at

821
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, all we have is ourselves.

822
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: You know, you want to love yourself, you want to

823
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: be with You will never be alone because he is

824
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: in your life, but he will eventually be in his life.

825
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: Really that's what you want. But like that, and you're

826
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: and I understand completely because what young people also don't

827
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: realize is, you know, your twenties, it goes away, so

828
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're not like to.

829
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 5: Your mother's point, to my point, he's fifty eight years old,

830
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: you go, oh wait, damn, you know, like I was

831
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: in that body, I had that time and like I didn't,

832
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 5: you know know too, because and it's just you learn

833
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: it as you go.

834
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: And you're certainly, I mean supremely young enough to still

835
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: have all this time to yourself and to explore the

836
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: world with him, because twenty the world with your son

837
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: is going to be one of the most amazing things.

838
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: That's already the best. I mean, we we recently went

839
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: to Disneyland, and everyone told me, like, he's too young,

840
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: he's three, wait till he's four or five, is a

841
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: waste of time. And I was like, you know what,

842
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: I want to do something special with him that I've

843
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: been working a lot, like, I want to I want

844
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: to do it with him, so whatever, So we went.

845
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: He had the best time ever, and like a week later,

846
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: he just woke up and in his crib when I

847
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: picked him up, he goes, I want to go to

848
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: Disney And I literally started getting to your eye kids.

849
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, you remember right, And he's

850
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's talking a lot now when he was

851
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: a delayed talker, and so it's just meant so much

852
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: on so many levels where I'm like, you know, and

853
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: again as a mom, always like I'm going out with

854
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: my gun and took him Like everyone it's not a

855
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: waste of time when we have you have such a

856
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: special time, and it keeps bringing it up, and I'm

857
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: just so glad that I got to share that with him,

858
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: and I was the one to take him. And it

859
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: also gave me confidence to do more stuff like that,

860
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: because I feel like sometimes as a parent, you're like,

861
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess we'll just stay home. Y, I

862
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: guess we'll just you know whatever, And it's like, you

863
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: know what, No, Like my mom would always be like

864
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: get in the car, like we're wan to o high

865
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Speaker 2: or like you know, we're gonna go the farmer's market,

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Speaker 2: or we're gonna go to the beach, and just those

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Speaker 2: little things add up to so many memories.

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Speaker 1: Completely, And I think to your point, it's to your

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Speaker 1: point of the concern of like your working mother, you

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Speaker 1: have a lot on your place, so you're not always

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Speaker 1: going to be able to be there because you're working.

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Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily about the quantity, it's about the

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Speaker 1: quality totally. What brings you joy?

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Speaker 2: I mean joy? I would say what brings me joy

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Speaker 2: is having free time and not being in a rush,

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Speaker 2: And like obviously that you know, so many things fall

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Speaker 2: into that category, and like of also you know, spending

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Speaker 2: time with my family, my friends, you know, being with

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Speaker 2: my son. But I think overall, like not feeling like

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Speaker 2: I'm in a rush, because so much of my life

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've smith trying to get somewhere at

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Speaker 2: a certain time and accomplish something and do something right

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Speaker 2: and say the right thing and look the right way,

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Speaker 2: and so like to me to wake up and not

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Speaker 2: be in a rush or have and to have a

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Speaker 2: free day. It's like it just makes me so right,

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Speaker 2: right do.

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Speaker 1: You looking at you and you know you have everything

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Speaker 1: it takes to be like a massive movie star. Not

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Speaker 1: to say you're not a huge star, okay, but you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Is that something you want? I mean, you've seen it,

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Speaker 1: it's around you.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's so interesting because I always say, like, you know,

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Speaker 6: I think I saw very up close what that really

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Speaker 6: looks like with my aunt Julia. It's obviously, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's fun and it's great, but there is a part

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Speaker 6: of it that's really scary. And so I've always wanted

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Speaker 6: to kind of carve my own path of not just

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Speaker 6: like straight ahead, oh, be a big movie star, but like,

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Speaker 6: you know, do stuff that's like creatively fulfilling, because to me,

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Speaker 6: fame has never been the goal because fame at a

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Speaker 6: certain level is kind of scary. And I remember as

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Speaker 6: a kid, even as in my later teens, I was

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Speaker 6: like I never want my fame to outweigh.

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Speaker 2: My work, because there's nothing scarier to me than being

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Speaker 2: so famous that you're never left alone. But also you're

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Speaker 2: not getting good jobs. And that was kind of like

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Speaker 2: happening to a lot of people I think when I

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Speaker 2: was in my teens in early twenties, and that really

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Speaker 2: scared me, and so I always I never wanted that

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Speaker 2: to happen to me. So I was very conscious of

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Speaker 2: like just not wanting to be in it for the fame.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, when you've seen fame like that

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Speaker 2: up close and you see what that really like does

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Speaker 2: to people onto to their family and and and like

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Speaker 2: it's it's scary sometimes. I mean, I'm just like had

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Speaker 2: a weird like stalker situation a few weeks ago that

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Speaker 2: I can say because it got leaked to the press.

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Speaker 2: And even that alone, the fact that was leaked into

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Speaker 2: the press, I feel like such a violation because I was, like,

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Speaker 2: I was just so scared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, Yeah, to me, I want to keep doing

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Speaker 2: things that are creatively fulfilling, things that are fun, work

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Speaker 2: with friends, and you know, if other things come along

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Speaker 2: with a great but like you know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: just take things a little bit at a time, and

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Speaker 2: thank you. I am I'm trying. I feel like this

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Speaker 2: last year something has clicked in, so I'm really excited

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Speaker 2: to kind of see how that affects the reats to

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Speaker 2: all other aspect of my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm very thankful that you join you today. I

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Speaker 1: was able for two and I'm really looking forward because

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Speaker 1: I have an up close personal scene to seeing all

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Speaker 1: the next chapters of your life. I love you with

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Speaker 1: the mob, I love you so much. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining to thank you Brews. Table for two with Bruce

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Speaker 1: Bosi is produced by iHeartRadio seven three seven Park and Airmail.

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Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Bruce Bosi and Nathan King. Our

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Speaker 1: supervising producer and editor is Dylan Fagan. Table for two

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Speaker 1: is researched and written by Jack Sullivan. Our sound engineers

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Speaker 1: are Meel B. Klein, Jess Krainich, Evan Taylor, and Jesse Full.

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Speaker 1: Our music supervisor is Randall Poster. Our talent booking is

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Speaker 1: done by Jane Sarkin. Table for two's social media manager

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