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Speaker 1: some NBA news. We had a weird trade that went

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Speaker 1: down yesterday, but we are here to break down Game

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Speaker 1: four the NBA Finals, the Nuggets one win away task

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Speaker 1: from the franchise's first NBA championship after the one eight

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Speaker 1: ninety five win against the Heat in Game four the

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Speaker 1: Finals last night, we had a blast on playback, balanced

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Speaker 1: team effort here from the NHS. But good Gord, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Gordon leading the way with twenty seven points. He's sort

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Speaker 1: of the main story, yeah, from this one, but would you.

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Speaker 3: Think, yeah, the supporting cast is one hundred percent the story.

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Speaker 3: He did a pretty good job. I thought of pestering

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Speaker 3: if we cut off the head of the snake, that

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Speaker 3: Murray was not in his rhythm all night, his worst

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Speaker 3: shooting night of the NBA Finals by far, five of seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Yokis didn't really have his flow either. He banged home

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Speaker 3: for him. They needed the supporting cast to step up,

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Speaker 3: and they did it, even with Jokic on the bench

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Speaker 3: But Aaron Gordon was just damn phenomenal. He didn't hit

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Speaker 3: And I said, the Jokic on the bench in the

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Speaker 3: Caleb Martin. He was just using his size. Michael Malone said,

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Speaker 3: he put his hard head on. That's exactly what he did.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon career playoff high with twenty seven points. He's

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Speaker 3: Doesn't feel that way. This would be a rare feat.

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Speaker 3: So they say, all right, you'll kitch to the bench

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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Speaker 3: But whatever? He said? Double digit assists in all four finals.

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Speaker 1: He's like, all right, they're taking me out of the play.

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Speaker 1: That's their game plan. Let's make the simple pass and

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Speaker 1: how you get to twelve assists, and yeah, some of

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Speaker 1: But you know, still the plan was to sort of

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Speaker 3: that they did. The Nuggets shot twelve for nineteen off

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Speaker 3: when they shot the ball immediately twelve to nineteen, including

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Speaker 3: seven of eleven on threes, Yeah, the Nuggets collapsed and boom, boom, boom.

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Speaker 3: Four straight ten assist games. Only Magic Johnson has a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so people were panicking at that nine forty

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Speaker 1: Played a lot of minutes postseason. I believe he's the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to quantify how much it's worn him down,

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Speaker 1: Him too, let's oh yeah, gloss of it like a

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Speaker 1: As you said, fifteen turnovers didn't help Miami heat last

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he had that hot quarter where he had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did as much as he possibly could. He contributed.

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Speaker 3: At this point throw it out there, huh, I mean,

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Speaker 3: what do you have to lose? Yeah, the finals? But yes, no,

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Speaker 3: I think you're saying, just why the heck not? This

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Speaker 1: How about that game delay? We had Bam hanging on

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be going up and down a

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Speaker 3: somebody in the stream said eight minutes, it.

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Speaker 1: Was oh then and then then there was the incident

431
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Speaker 1: with this woman, So find out what happened. I don't

432
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Speaker 1: see a single thing in my reading.

433
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Speaker 3: Somebody wheel chaired off?

434
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like was it?

435
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

436
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: They passed out?

437
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 3: Did they fall?

438
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Speaker 1: Are they just drunk and feeling well?

439
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: That was what she seemed to be with it when

440
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: she was in the wheelchair. But yeah, that was Yeah,

441
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: that was an up and down eight minutes.

442
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like, who's this going to help? Yeah,

443
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure that ou out, just like I mean,

444
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: is it good for Yeah, we didn't know. You never

445
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: know what that You just know it's going to be

446
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 1: a story until it's not, you know, like, yes, if

447
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: a team rips off a run, oh wow, that delay

448
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: helped them and there wasn't really anything from that.

449
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, these nugets continued to play well exactly, They're locked in.

450
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nuggets are the thirty seventh team in NBA history

451
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 1: to own a three one series lead in the finals.

452
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: Only one of those previous thirty six teams went on

453
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Speaker 1: to lose the finals. Everybody knows who they are, twenty

454
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: sixteen Golden State Warriors. But the Cavs coming back. But yeah,

455
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: you gotta be I guess just a die hard Miami

456
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: Heat fan to think they're coming back, because the Nuggets

457
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: just look like they're clearly better team, and they haven't

458
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: even played all that great in some of these games

459
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: and still all pull off the victories. But Malone pointed

460
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: out the defense last night. I mean that was the thing, like, yeah,

461
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: Flowers to Ag Flowers, to Bruce Brown, But it's the

462
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: defense that's like doing a great job taking away the

463
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: three pointers obviously, you know, showing up the defensive glass.

464
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Speaker 1: They're just playing great. They're all they're all committed to that. Yeah,

465
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: and they and they are definitely holding themselves, you know,

466
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: throughout this postseason run. If we're being honest, just with

467
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Speaker 1: this team that knows we're better than all these teams,

468
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: if we just play our game and they they don't, like,

469
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's no the highs there. Highs and low

470
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: zone don't really exist with this team. It feels like

471
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Speaker 1: they're just very composed and that's probably you know, I

472
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: guess we saw a little emotion from Jokic when we

473
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Speaker 1: did a weird little celebration on the sideline after one

474
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: of those threes during the run when he was off

475
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Speaker 1: for the most poor part, they've been even keeled.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see in Jokic extremely pumped, very rare. It's

477
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: never for himself, it's always it's always when a teammate

478
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: bangs went home. As he says, what's the line a

479
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: pass makes two people happy or an assist makes two

480
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Speaker 3: people happy? Deep thoughts check out our video. We did

481
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Speaker 3: a Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy video about Nikola Jokic's

482
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: quotes because he's full of them, and he was full

483
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: of life only when somebody else scores. But as you said,

484
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: they're steady. It's hard not to compare to the Tim

485
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: Duncan Spurs, like you are led by a very steady

486
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Speaker 3: guy and Jokic who doesn't get too high and too low.

487
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 3: And here they are, you know, go through four rounds

488
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Speaker 3: potentially here without an elimination game. I mean, yeah, they

489
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Speaker 3: are they are ridiculously steady. Home court helps a nice

490
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Speaker 3: home court advantage in the finals versus a team that

491
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Speaker 3: didn't have a better record than them. Again, it broke

492
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 3: pretty nicely that the top three teams in the Eastern

493
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Speaker 3: Conference didn't get to the finals because they all had

494
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Speaker 3: a better record than the Denver Nuggets. Yeah, but they're

495
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: so and part of that.

496
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Is because Denver Nuggets like took their foot off the gas.

497
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: At the end of the season, and we all said,

498
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: what is this? What is this blip?

499
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Speaker 2: Right?

500
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: Are they actually you know, taking at some time off?

501
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: Are they riding their horses off into the sunset? But no, Yeah,

502
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: they feel great and Michael Malone is on this team

503
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: and pushing the right buttons. You said the defense. That

504
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: was his pregame speech. Yeah, he said, no one's given

505
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: our defense credit. It's like he had like a playbook

506
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: like first game, we got to come out here and

507
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Speaker 3: win the game. Number three, he said to Jeff Green,

508
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: how many finals you've been in, how many finals you've

509
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: been in, just you know, trying to imply that you

510
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: don't get here every time. And then this time it

511
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 3: was the defense. And so all three wins he's had

512
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 3: a line and it's worked, and it's not the sexy

513
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: thing to talk about. Defense ain't the sexy thing to

514
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Speaker 3: talk about, but that's how they win for sure. Eight

515
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Speaker 3: of twenty five. As you said, from a three point line,

516
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Speaker 3: I can't remember for the first time in the series.

517
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: I think a lot of open threes. Usually there are

518
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Speaker 3: always some open threes that they were clanking, and this

519
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: one they felt attached, they felt ready, something felt easy for.

520
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: The Miami Heat when they scored. You know, we had

521
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Speaker 1: we had the grift King, Kyle Lowry doing his best,

522
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Speaker 1: you know, getting the line, Greg grabbing and doing all

523
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: his things and you know, selling some contact, but like

524
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: it just felt like a slog. Yeah, and that's credit

525
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: to the Nuggets defense, no doubt. So do you think

526
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Speaker 1: this is ending on Monday night?

527
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

528
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Speaker 1: I think this is over. I know you had the

529
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Speaker 1: Nuggets in five, so why wouldn't you can continue with

530
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: your prediction, but you think they'll take care of business.

531
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be a very Miami Heat thing to win

532
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: where they want right when we say they're done, it's over.

533
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: Take that final nail, put in the coffin, and they

534
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: pop up like the undertaker. No, I'm with you. It

535
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: feels like it's a wrap again.

536
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 3: We're shooting series. We're sorry, we're shooting game for their

537
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: best two players in this game, so you expect they

538
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Speaker 3: bounce back. Jamal Murray had his best game in game

539
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: three after a game two for him only eight team

540
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: points in game two. You'd expect them to be bounced back.

541
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Speaker 3: And same with Jokic. Maybe that ankle injury is a problem.

542
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: It just feels like, yeah, they're they're stacked with talent

543
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 3: and the Heater a little guest, and how how can

544
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: get pick the Heat? Really?

545
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: You only have to pray, I think, because like we

546
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: keep saying, well, Jimmy's got to have a big Jimmy game,

547
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: and you know, BAM's got to play better, and like

548
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: these guys have asked been asked to do a lot,

549
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, and for the most part, I think Jimmy's

550
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: played okay. He has not been elite. Same with Bam,

551
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: He's been good, maybe not great. But the Heat are

552
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: only gonna win game five if one, two, or three

553
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: of their guys, their shooters catch fire. Like they need Strus,

554
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: they hit a bunch of threes, They need Gabe to

555
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: d a bunch of threes or Lowry or Duncan Robinson

556
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: or Kila Martin, like they have five or six guys.

557
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Tyler Herrow. Who knows. They need one

558
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: of those two of those guys to just have those

559
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: games where they hit three, four, five, whatever from deep

560
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: because they need those points. They need the math in

561
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: their favor from deep, and then maybe they can get

562
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: it back to Miami. But I just you wouldn't bet

563
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: on that right now. It wouldn't at all. But maybe

564
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: you do out there. I don't know.

565
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sports was pulling out every sort of move.

566
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler always plays the first twelve minutes, and in

567
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: this game he sat after about seven and seven minutes

568
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: and twenty seconds so he could come back before the

569
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 3: first quarter ended for the first time in this series

570
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: and play against the bench unit a little bit more

571
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: and it worked. He hit what was it five points,

572
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, he was seven right before the end

573
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: of the first quarter, got that little run going to

574
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: actually give the Heat the lead going into the second quarter,

575
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: and then he had to play forty five minutes for

576
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: the first time. They're gassing him. I mean, they're exhausting

577
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: every single option here and that other team is just

578
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: too good.

579
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Speaker 1: My only other stat from last night slow start to

580
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: this game. Miami led twenty one to twenty. Yeah, Miami

581
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: was up at the end of the first quarter. Somehow

582
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: forty one combined points, the fewest in the first quarter

583
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: since Game four of the Raptors Warriors series in two

584
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, team which only had forty points in

585
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: that game four. So low, low, low scoring affair there

586
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: in the first quarter picked up as it went on

587
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, I mean the first six

588
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: minutes of that game were rough.

589
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: It was maybe some nervousness. Maybe that was the serge

590
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 3: of Baka game right in game four. So yeah, yeah,

591
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: the second half where he was scorching.

592
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: Half perfect in the third quarter, finished with.

593
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Twenty one that we had forgotten about until you went

594
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: through all those unheralded performances on Friday Show.

595
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Does Bruce Brown suddenly make that list? We had Christian

596
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Brown in game three, Bruce Brown, how many minutes did

597
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: he end up playing last night? Obviously twenty one points

598
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: eleven and the fourth.

599
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting overshadowed because of Aaron Gordon's performance, because

600
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: we want to talk about in order, Jokic, Murray and

601
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: then somebody else. Oh, Gordon had twenty seven. That's good.

602
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, twenty one points in twenty nine minutes and

603
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: we didn't even mention.

604
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: It nine minutes. He just missed the arbitrary cutoff I

605
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: had of twenty minutes.

606
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so he's not going to make this arbitrary list.

607
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: And we didn't even say mpj's name at all. Who

608
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: played well, but I mean he missed him obviously. The

609
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 3: SHOT's just weird. He doesn't have his shot. He's four

610
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: to ten in this game.

611
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: That's great for him, yeah.

612
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: Right now, But you're right, he missed three.

613
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: Four bunnies, no threes. He did have a dunk, did

614
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: get a couple inside around the rim, but he was

615
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: better defensively. You know, he wasn't being completely like taken

616
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: off the floor on that end. I thought he was

617
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: at least like everybody for the Nuggets. Malone got through

618
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: to them like let's let's go take both of these

619
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: here in Miami and passed. And he did pass, not

620
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the most I've seen him pass all the seas exactly

621
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: if they're three or four times.

622
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bad stat would be if he was five

623
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: at fifteen, but he was able to just you know,

624
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: not get selfish, yep, not get ahead of himself, not

625
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: try and shoot him out of shoot himself out of

626
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: the slump, and he moved the ball if there was

627
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: a pass call him in the box score. I think

628
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: this would probably be his highest number, even though he

629
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 3: didn't play a lot of the of the games here

630
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: in the finals, because he just didn't force it.

631
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: I will admit though, because we said it all postseason long,

632
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: especially me and Trey, like we had excuse me, Michael

633
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: Porter Junior as the ultimate X factor to the Nuggets championship,

634
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: right if he plays well, they could do this. If

635
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't, probably not. And he played really well during

636
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: the entire postseason run until the finals, but he's been

637
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: horrible and they're up three to one. Yeah, I mean

638
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: until the point where he's like even getting taken off

639
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: the floor at times. So it's crazy just the depth

640
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: of this squad and everybody that is playing for the

641
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: most part is contributing outside of him struggling with a shot,

642
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: and even KCP played better last night hitting a couple

643
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: of shots. At the top of my head, I think

644
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: he had a couple of threes. Then he did, Yeah,

645
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Speaker 1: anything else from Game four last night?

646
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Speaker 3: No, it was a first shot I think of Nikola

647
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: Jokic's wife, though I'll add that in. I don't think

648
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: we've ever seen her in the seats. I think it

649
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: was on his deep three that he hit camera panned

650
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: to her. Huge clap, huge clap behind. Every man is

651
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: a strong woman, and she she was there. As you see,

652
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: you could see the ferocity. She's intense, very intense. Yes,

653
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: she wants she wants these w's even though I'm sure

654
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: like Yoki, she doesn't want the spotlight. She probably hates

655
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: that anybody would ever talk about her, or that they

656
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: showed her in the crowd. But I don't I don't

657
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: think she usually.

658
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Sits well, she's she's generally there's they just don't show her.

659
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they just don't show sure.

660
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: Her people on playback, I couldn't tell if people were

661
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: kidding or not, but I don't think they were. Like

662
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: some people were like, Yoki is married, right, Yokich has

663
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: a kid? Yeah, you know we were talking about it,

664
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Speaker 1: like people were like, what, well.

665
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler talked about his kid too. He's done a

666
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: good job of keeping that on the download.

667
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough? Yeah, too many dads? Anything else?

668
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 3: My man?

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Speaker 1: No, Well, let's take a break and when we come

670
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: back a bunch of NBA news, So don't go anywhere,

671
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: all right here in the Classic Factory on a weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody for joining us live on YouTube. Hit

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Speaker 1: that like button, make sure you subscribe. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: game four the NBA Finals. We'll talk more about game

675
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: five on Monday's pod. But we do have some NBA news.

676
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: We've got our salves of trade involving absolutely not a

677
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: single player. But according to WOJH, the Denver Nuggets have

678
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: acquired a twenty twenty four first and second round pick

679
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: and a twenty twenty three second round pick in a

680
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: deal with the OKC Thunder for a protected twenty twenty

681
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: nine first round pick way in the future.

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00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: Tests.

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00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: Uh, what do you think about this? These picks being

684
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: traded between the Nugs, who are, yeah, in the NBA

685
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: Finals and the Thunder.

686
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first shocking thing. They're in the finals.

687
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: People are like, can you do this?

688
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

689
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Is this legal?

690
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: You can?

691
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: Is it's weird?

692
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: Claire? The trade deadline happens in February, yep, but I

693
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: guess the deadline stops at some point. It ends because

694
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: the draft day usually is when the deals happen. You

695
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: want me to take this one, or you did a

696
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: great job yesually on playback of breaking this down.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you can see what both teams are

698
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: doing absolutely, which is what this trade makes sense. From

699
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: the Nuggets side of things, they are getting the least

700
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: favorable of Okac's first round pick in the twenty twenty

701
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: four draft. They'll have the thirty seventh pick and the

702
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: fortieth pick in this year's draft, and so they're doing

703
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: this because they are hoping to get you know, low

704
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: cost contracts by finding some guys in the draft that

705
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: they can add to their team to help navigate their

706
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, very expensive squad. They're the luxury tax with

707
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: you'll Kich Murray and Michael Porter Junior and those three

708
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: guys making a ton of money. So you're going to need,

709
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: especially with the second apron and how you'll be penalized

710
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: and how tough it'll be to add you know, guys

711
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: like vets to your squad and stuff like that. You

712
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: need to hit these draft picks. It's going to become

713
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: very very important. So a couple more bites at the

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Speaker 1: apple right, that's it from OKC side of things. They

715
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: got a million of these, so it's like space them out.

716
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, do you need do you need ten first

717
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: round picks? It feels like in one particular draft. No,

718
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: So you know, who knows what's happening in twenty twenty nine?

719
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Will we even be here? Test? I don't want to

720
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: go go, you know, down a rabbit hole, get dark,

721
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: but even way we're going, don't have the smoke.

722
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: And oh okay, just overall? Yeah, yeah, or at this desk?

723
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: I thought you were at first.

724
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: God, I hope. So if we are alive, we'll be

725
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: at this desk. But uh, the Thunder owners bury me

726
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: at this test. The Thunder owned fifteen first round picks

727
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: now through the twenty twenty nine draft, so they're just

728
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: like spacing about. I don't know what the protection is

729
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: on this twenty twenty nine first round pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're called top five. Yeah, I thought it was

731
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: top five for some reason, but I could be in No,

732
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 3: I could be incorrect about.

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Speaker 1: That because OKAC still owns Denver's top five protected twenty

734
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Speaker 1: twenty seven first round pick. Yes, because of the Jamichael

735
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: Green trades. Maybe you're thinking that.

736
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Speaker 3: With the Well, I know that the Nuggets also traded

737
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: away their first round pick in twenty twenty five to

738
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic for Aaron Gordon, Right, but that not

739
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: convey that year because there's some some sort of line

740
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: on that that says it's what is it, it's top five. Anyways,

741
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: there's protections on that too, and if it's not conveyed

742
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: that year, then it goes to twenty twenty six, and

743
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 3: then that thunder one gets bumped. Anyway. Yeah, you're right

744
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: about the Nuggets just trying to hit and get somebody

745
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: on the cheap, essentially because they're paying so much to

746
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: their top three, which doesn't include Aaron Gordon, who great

747
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: extension that he signed four for ninety two. He is

748
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: their fourth highest paid player and then casep So, yeah,

749
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: they're just trying to trying to hit br Brown, is

750
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: the real question. Yeah, it's up to Bruce Brown.

751
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Really up to Bruce Brown because he could make.

752
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: More money, He'll make more money somewhere else.

753
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Does he want to try and run it back and

754
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe build a little dynasty here in Denver?

755
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, he's got a player option for six

756
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: point eight he could take it, get get opt out

757
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: of that, get a raise, not a huge raise, and

758
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: then in the twenty twenty four five season, make more

759
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: with the Denver Nuggets. You know, it's sort of maybe

760
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: take a little less to maybe make more later if

761
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: you want to, if he wants to stick with the team, or.

762
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: You could opt out, which we think you will anyway,

763
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: and then make a whole lot more.

764
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: Money, hell lot more money because the Nuggets are unable

765
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: to pay him. So yeah, Sam Presty just taking calculated

766
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: risks that the Nuggets will be worse, you know, six

767
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: years from now, and you know, balancing their draft capital.

768
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool to have the foresight to say, twenty

769
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: twenty nine, I want this happening. That's yeah, just balancing

770
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: out every pick that he has in I covered.

771
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: So yeah. And I think it was Brian Windhorst I

772
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: heard on a mini podcast this morning or that they

773
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: did late last night, you know, saying this to wind

774
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Horse excuse me, sort of says that the Nuggets are like, oh, yeah,

775
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: we're running this back next year or we like our

776
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: chances to continue to build this team. We have this

777
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: squad and we need to do like I said, we

778
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: need to find your Christian Browns. And you know they

779
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: got Watson there. They're pretty high on, like you gotta

780
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: you gotta keep replenishing those young guys in these like

781
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: second round picks and stuff like that. Just cheap contracts

782
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: that hopefully guys can still contribute when they're when they're

783
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: asked to, like we saw Brown did in Game three.

784
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, good little trade there.

785
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: I think Ishmael Smith has played for thirteen teams, the

786
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: most in NBA history. Going to get an NBA title here,

787
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: but I think he's going to be playing for a

788
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: fourteenth next year just because of how much he makes

789
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: four point seven million. They got to work around the

790
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: edges here and find somebody cheaper. So he's going to

791
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: take that that mark in NBA history to another team.

792
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: I think he's pretty wild he's going to play on

793
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: another team.

794
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I assume anyway, DeAndre Jordan's going to have a ring

795
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: before Chris Paul. How do you feel about this? All right?

796
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: Our next piece of news here. Earlier this week, Damian

797
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Lillard appeared on a podcast talking about the Heat and

798
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: Nets as a possible trade destination that prompted an intense

799
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: discussion on ESPN's Get Up program featuring McCollum talking at

800
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: length about the possible abilities of a d move and

801
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: why this summer's rumors seemed more intense than past years,

802
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: and then later CJ doing the car wash on first take,

803
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: he dropped the money headline here quote CJ McCollum, the

804
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: market will dictate what happens here dot dot dot. If

805
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, I would say this is

806
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: the last that we've seen of him in Portland, him

807
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: being Damian Lillard end quote. What do you think Dame's

808
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: buddy here? CJ? Former teammate chiming in with his two cents.

809
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: I thought this would make bigger headlines. If I was

810
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: a betman, I'd say the impressions on this should have

811
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: been higher. His teammates saying yes, yes, yes, teammate for

812
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: a very very very long time. Yeah, saying I think

813
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: he's done with the Blazers. That's my guess. Not that

814
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: he would ask out, but as we talked about earlier

815
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: this week, when Dame did an interview with Brian Custer

816
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: and he said, oh, those opportunities look pretty good. I

817
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: still want to be with Portland, but those other opportunities yeah,

818
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 3: I'd love to play in Miami. Yeah, I'd love to

819
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: play in Brooklyn. Those specific two scenarios.

820
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Because of BAM and mckillbridges.

821
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: Because of friends, his dogs. His dogs won a gold

822
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: with BAM and did he went gold with BAM. He

823
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: played with him internationally. They always get convoluted. Yesterday I

824
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: had we had j D on the playback saying that

825
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: his son was playing Foeba and not FIFA and got

826
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: me all confused. It was like, I says, I get

827
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: confused with the Phoeba World Cup in the Olympics.

828
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: My basketball guy, I just slipped out, yeah, And I

829
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 4: was like, I don't.

830
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: Think there's a Phoeba game. I haven't stayed up to

831
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: do it on my video games, but I'm pretty sure

832
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: he meant.

833
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: And I loved how you went off playback because I

834
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: do this as well. But you're still lurking in the chat.

835
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: You're off video, but you're still back there, you know,

836
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: because he just turned the camera off and then we

837
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: started saying Phoeba. There's a FOBA game. He was in

838
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 3: career mode in FIBA. Yeah. Also, I'm also a basketball guy,

839
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: but FIFA a far better game than FOBA if there

840
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: is a FIFA game, Probably not. FIFA is a good game,

841
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: but uh yeah, Dame is pretty open to a move.

842
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: I'd say, I feel it's feeling more and more Kevin

843
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: Garnett like right where we're like, we're at the threshold here,

844
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: and it might be the threshold for Joe Cronin and

845
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: the Blazer's front office too. Playing incredible, But how many

846
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: more incredible years are you going to get where you

847
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: get the trade value that you could get right this second.

848
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: I guess I said the same thing last year, I know,

849
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: probably the year before, but he had an incredible year.

850
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Kevin O'Connor, he says his sources say Portland's

851
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: interest in building around Lillard is genuine, so they are

852
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: continue continuing to tell us that at least, or at

853
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: least the sources are telling that to guys like koc

854
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: front office, those exploring deals for the number three pick,

855
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: and it's also open to moving Anthony Simon's tasts, and

856
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: so that immediately has everybody going, can you get you know,

857
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: a jail In Brown, Can you get a Siakam? Could

858
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: you get a Mikail Bridges? Could you get a player

859
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: of that caliber? For that type of package, three Simons

860
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: and what are whatever else it would take to to

861
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: bring like a star player back. So we'll see, I

862
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: mean we we It's funny because this is the most

863
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: it feels like Dame has sort of not hinted at

864
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: or at least uh talked about going to these other

865
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: destinations for reasons, but then continues to say he wants

866
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: to be there, and it feels like Portland doesn't want

867
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: him to go anywhere. But if that's the case, then

868
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: they got to do something like like as currently constructed,

869
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't think adding either Brandon Miller or Screw Henderson

870
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: to the to the Blazer's roster as it is, is

871
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: going to do anything next year, right, They're not going

872
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: to be competing for a championship. No, Well, okay, so

873
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: that means something has to be done if you're keeping

874
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: Dame and you're going that way, and what do they have, Well,

875
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: they have the number three pick and Simon's a very

876
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: promising player that's that scores a lot and sort of

877
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: plays a similar position to the Dame.

878
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's silly season, baby, and I guess trades are

879
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: allowed now, so let's start talking about them. I can't wait. Well, yeah, well,

880
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: I think every day this, you know, around from the

881
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: draft to free agency, we should be talking about this

882
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: stuff because it's it's interesting. Dame to Brooklyn, as he implied,

883
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: to go play with mckel bridges, do they have enough

884
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: in return? I don't know. I just don't see Brooklyn

885
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: trading mckil bridges. So why, why why would that happen?

886
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: You mentioned we've all talked about the Miami scenario. What

887
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: would Miami give up for Dame?

888
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: How about Bam? He's a dog.

889
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: He's a dog. Though they would they would literally be

890
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: like six four and under. Yeah, that's and then if

891
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: you don't trade Bam, if you play with Jimmy and Bam,

892
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: Tyler heroes.

893
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 1: Tyler, the biggest name is that really moving the needle?

894
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: Does that move in the needle? Pat Riley would have

895
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: to work something very creative to make that happen. I

896
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: would say, amongst those two teams.

897
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: Og or Siakham, it starts to make some sense to

898
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: me from the Blazer side of things, right, and then

899
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm from the Raptor side of things, like if they're

900
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: infatuated with a guard that can score reports, say Van Vleet,

901
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: and Gary Trent Junior are gone, they're gonna need some guards.

902
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: You get a young, promising one in Simon's. I know

903
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: he's a people are very high on him or very

904
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: low on him. It feels like he's a polarizing player.

905
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: Is still very young, but maybe something there.

906
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: And then yeah, I feel you, I feel you with

907
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: that one and the Jaylen Brown scenario, just to balance

908
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 3: out the team a little bit more. It sounds crazy,

909
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: but if Jalen Brown was on the table last year

910
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: for potential Kevin Durant deal, now he's one year closer

911
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: to making that max deal, on the doorstep of making

912
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: that Max deal. I mean, it's a lot to give up.

913
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 3: That would probably be the best player that the Blazers

914
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: could get. Now we know, disrespect could just.

915
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: Do Damian Lillard for Jaylen Brown. We could just swap stars.

916
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: But Dame doesn't want to play in Boston. Oh yeah,

917
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: he does the one team he seems to have admitted.

918
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Jason Tatum commented on that, it's like, oh yeah, yeah,

919
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: just can't be more clear, buddy, you don't want to play.

920
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: We get it, man, We'll see. We'll be talking about

921
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: it all summer long until nothing happens, and he's just

922
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: there all right. Golden State Warriors, they have an uncertain offseason. Obviously,

923
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Bob Myers, their front office head honcho, he's gone. They

924
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: got this looming second luxury tax apron coming up for everybody,

925
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: But the franchise appears committed to maximizing the title window

926
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: here around Steph Curry, and they are expected to remain

927
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: as competitive as possible. This is from Tim Kawakami at

928
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: the Athletic, obviously plugged in with the Warriors. Quote. I

929
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors keep

930
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: most of this together for at least one more season.

931
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: That's what Curry wants. His opinion sort of matters. End

932
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: quote there from Kawakami at the Athletic. This was part

933
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: of a mail bag that Tim did, and the question

934
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: was the direction of the Warriors, and there being a

935
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: lot of talk about trading Pool or Wiggins or Kuminga

936
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: for another sort of aging star. Let's say, to push

937
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: for one more title, but couldn't they go the other

938
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: direction and see you later, dre see it later, maybe

939
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Clay and sort of try and stay viable over a

940
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: longer period. But that was him answering to that was

941
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: Tim's answer to this that he thinks because of Curry,

942
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: mainly like, we're going to bring the band back together.

943
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: Here, and the band means Clay playing beside him, and

944
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: it's likely Draymond. Yeah, it's what it means. It's what

945
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: it means for sure. I just want to know what

946
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: the contract is that with the Draymonds innair. But yeah,

947
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: it's all lining up for a last dance, I think

948
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: because Clay is off the books at the end of

949
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: next season, the twenty three to twenty four season.

950
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: So Steve Kerran Clay will be entering contract years.

951
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: Sure, right, Yeah, it's Phil Jackson esque, like like Kerr's

952
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: mentor one of his mentors, I guess. So it kind

953
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: of feels like it's all lining up. We're questioning. I

954
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: think we all were questioning the Bob Meyers leaving. Does

955
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: that mean the end of this team?

956
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Right?

957
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know. The last year kind of felt

958
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: like the last dance, but that was coming off a championship.

959
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: Now this is the last last dance. I think they're

960
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: going back one more time. But the Draymond question is

961
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: huge for me because that's the only guy they really

962
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: have to sign. But if it really felt like with

963
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: Bob Myers leaving like that was the first piece to

964
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: this thing dismantling, you think they're coming back for one more.

965
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: I think they probably will, but as currently constructed, I

966
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of faith in them to win

967
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: another title, like with the age really showing for your

968
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Draymmonds and your clays, unless you know, fount in the

969
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: youth suddenly it's installed there in the bay. I I

970
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: don't like because they've tried to do the hole. We

971
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: got the young guys and we're going to blend them

972
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: into obviously our our champion guys, and they've done a

973
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: poor job of that.

974
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: It hasn't worked out so far. But they tried that.

975
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: They got rid of wise men, and they didn't get

976
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: to this this next evolution of their team until like

977
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: twenty games into the season, and then they went and

978
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: got back Gary Payton the second Wiggans was gone for

979
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 3: was gone.

980
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: That is a big part of this equation.

981
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: That is fair Ken kuminga grow a little bit. You know,

982
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: mood he has shown he's solid. I'm buying it. Oh

983
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: that goes that light, That light is moody.

984
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I want to work on a weekend. Also, they could

985
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: move Jordan Poole. I mean that could be a piece

986
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: that you actually trade. His value probably went down quite

987
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: a bit during the this postseason.

988
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: They don't want to do the two timelines.

989
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, exactly, just to get enough, just to

990
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: get another piece to really push for a title.

991
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: Here.

992
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: If this is what they're talking about doing here, and

993
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, when you got Curry on your team, you

994
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: are in the running. That's that's the honest truth. Yeah,

995
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll get over there. JD's fixing it right now.

996
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: It's all right, you can. You can deal with this

997
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: in a little bit of the dark here. Final one

998
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: here tasks.

999
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought this one was important. You want to

1000
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 3: tell you, I'm really interested.

1001
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: About this one. So I'm I'm interested to hear you

1002
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: take because I wasn't even gonna put it in. But

1003
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Bucks forward Chris Middleton he underwent successful surgery on his

1004
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: right knee shortly after the playoffs to address an issue

1005
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: that plagged him during the past season. Middleton is expected

1006
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: to fully recover should be back on the court come July,

1007
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: so it was not a major surgery here, per the

1008
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: athletic sources, clean up procedure to his right knee was

1009
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: planned and scheduled prior to the season coming to a close. So, yeah,

1010
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: why'd you want this one in here? Talk Middleton a

1011
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: little bit to me.

1012
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Well, this is a guy who's the second best player

1013
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: on a championship team two years ago. He's got a

1014
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: forty million dollar option over forty million dollar option coming up.

1015
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: He just had another surgery coming off a season where

1016
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: he was injured. He was in all the meetings with

1017
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: the Unistetakoumpo when they were courting a head coach and

1018
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 3: Adrian Griffin. He was part of that. So he's seemingly

1019
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: part of the future there. But he's in his thirties

1020
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 3: another surgery. He's getting older. Brook Lopez really old. He's

1021
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: a free agent. This team has just gotten older real quick.

1022
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: And they you know, they were old last year when

1023
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: they had Drew Middleton and brook Lopez three starters in

1024
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: their thirties. I guess we're talking about the Warriors in

1025
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: a similar way besides Unisteta Cupo. But this team wants

1026
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: to win a championship right now, and I just wonder

1027
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: how healthy Chris Chris Middleton is going to be. I

1028
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: know this was a planned surgery, but anytime you go

1029
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: in it's not a good sign. And I saw Nate

1030
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: Robinson former NBA players say this guy could be done. Well,

1031
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: does that mean anything? Does that mean does Nate Robinson

1032
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: know something? Maybe yes, maybe no. But he is obviously

1033
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: part of the future here because he was in all

1034
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: those meetings with Adrian Griffin and they this is their

1035
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: number two. This guy is really really important, and he

1036
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: couldn't be himself in the playoffs and that's why they

1037
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: got bounced. If he was excellent, maybe it's a different scenario,

1038
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: but he wasn't able to get to that level. This

1039
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: is Yanni's prime and this is his number two guy,

1040
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: and he was key in winning the titles. So if

1041
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: he's not anywhere close to where he was, if Nate

1042
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: Robinson is somewhat right, even this is bad news Bears

1043
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: for yanisaid Goupo in the Bucks.

1044
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what did Middleton do with this player option?

1045
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: Like you said four million for the twenty three twenty

1046
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: four seasons, so next season and he needs to make

1047
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: a decision on that option by June twenty first, so

1048
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm less than two weeks here. Yeah, But like is

1049
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: he opting out signing a different deal to stay with

1050
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: the box. Is he going somewhere else that feels unlikely,

1051
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: or is he just gonna, you know, try and just

1052
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: take that totally fair paycheck of forty million dollars and

1053
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: have a better season because I had forgotten, like, oh, yeah,

1054
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: this guy had wrist surgery last off season, missed a

1055
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: bunch of time at the start of season, comes back,

1056
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, tries to get back in game shape, and

1057
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: then hurts the knee and missed another you know, basically

1058
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen twenty games whatever.

1059
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: It was.

1060
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: So, yeah, a really rough year for him, only playing

1061
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: like thirty or so games. But maybe he just yeah,

1062
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: keeps that final year of that contract and tries to

1063
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: build back up his value. He is thirty one, is

1064
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: that right?

1065
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: Right?

1066
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: But he's a good player.

1067
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: He's a very good player. But he didn't have a

1068
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 3: good season last season. I mean, his numbers are fine,

1069
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: but he wasn't able to play enough.

1070
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: No, really exactly. All right, that's our NBA news round up.

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Speaker 1: We'll take one more break, got the lights back on.

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Speaker 1: That's great, good job, JD. And I've got a couple

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Speaker 1: tweets of the night for you don't go anywhere. Well, JD,

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Speaker 1: you might have to come back and unplug that light

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Speaker 1: because people were enjoying the mood lighting. Yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe you we're too bright.

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Speaker 3: And after dark type of scenario.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I hear what they're saying. It's a

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Speaker 4: it's a bright yet dark set. I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 4: not a lighting director.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. What is going on with that

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Speaker 1: light though it's been causing us some problems over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also not an electrician or an engineer, but

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Speaker 4: that is my role here.

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Speaker 1: You do it all, man, You do it all, including

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Speaker 1: playing the sting for tweet of the night.

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Speaker 3: Tweet of the night.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got a few tweets for you. First one

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Speaker 1: from Bleach to report Luca looking lean. Photo of Luka

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Speaker 1: Doncic potentially looking lean. I mean, okay, sure looks great.

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Speaker 1: Looks like an athlete to me. But my favorite part

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Speaker 1: of this was our guy Alex Wong at Stephen Underscore

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Speaker 1: Lebron Ben Simmons working out Dame says he wants to

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Speaker 1: win in Portland. Lucas looking lean. The official start of

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Speaker 1: the NBA off season is near. That's right, big facts there.

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Speaker 1: We already talked about Dame wants to stay in Portland?

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Speaker 1: Does he? Probably this Luca photo? And I know you

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Speaker 1: saw the Ben Simmons photo him working out in the gym,

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Speaker 1: getting sweat on, shirt off, looking gray.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be one hundred percent honest. I didn't see

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Speaker 3: that photo. Which one the Ben?

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Speaker 1: You're a lucky man, because I did.

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Speaker 3: I saw him a few weeks ago. I'm always seeing them. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: he's working out, right, he was working I was back.

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Speaker 1: Was that the one I saw him playing basketball like

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Speaker 1: it was an action shot.

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Speaker 3: He's in the gym, that's different. I saw him working

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Speaker 3: out on the the Oh, he's doing rear we're delt

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Speaker 3: work or whatever. He was pulling back backwards. Yeah, well

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Speaker 3: he's he's trying to improve his back. Had back problems.

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Speaker 1: Show me a photo of him practicing free throws?

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Speaker 3: What was he doing this video?

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Speaker 1: Who gives a ship? He's an athlete. He looks chiseled.

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Speaker 1: Of course he's in the gym.

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Speaker 3: He hurt his back.

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Speaker 5: What U?

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Speaker 3: What was he doing in this workout you brought? You

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Speaker 3: made the tweet?

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Speaker 1: He was I don't know, he's driving? What do you mean,

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Speaker 1: he's like dribbling the ball, I think if I remember correctly.

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Speaker 1: But this Luca thing, this is just as much bullshit.

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Speaker 1: What are people talking about?

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Speaker 3: He took a shower, his hair is wet.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what he looks like. What are

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Speaker 1: we talking about? I don't get this. And we did

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Speaker 1: this stuff last year too. Oh, the league ain't ready

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Speaker 1: for Luca looking lean. He was in great shape. Remember

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Speaker 1: those photos.

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Speaker 3: Well, he played in Foba in the video game.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that was the summer before. He was only

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Speaker 1: playing FIFA and apparently he was fat. He was playing

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Speaker 1: actual Foba fat. Anyway, Stephen Lebron's right, those three things.

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Speaker 3: Man, he looked all right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, he looked like that all season long.

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Speaker 1: He just wasn't wearing a Mavericks jersey. It's so weird.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. He looked pretty spelt in the waistline.

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Speaker 1: It's insane. What are you guys talking about?

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Speaker 3: Also, it happens every year Hardened the same thing. Harden

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Speaker 3: goes from skinny to obese in five hours. True.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Texas jerseys or they add twenty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody knows that. But you're right, like you could

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Speaker 1: take a photo of any one of us. You could

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00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: look very skinny, oh wow, looking ripped, looking svelt, And

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Speaker 1: then you could take a photo from a different angle

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00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, looking a little that's wrong with him? Yeah, bloated?

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Speaker 1: So yeah anyway, okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Perfectly placed workout Matt right behind him too. Just notice

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Speaker 3: that he was on the mat doing a little dominoes.

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Speaker 1: Was he doing yoga? Oh okay, I don't know. The

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Speaker 1: final tweet of the.

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Speaker 3: Night, Oh okay, we got another one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's from one of my favorites on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: in real life, the kid Marrow. All right, Marrow tweeted

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Speaker 1: in all caps locks as he does. Nah, the Zion

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00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: shit is crazy. It's been weeks already. Also, do y'all

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00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: remember how horny you were at twenty Imagine being that

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: horny and instead of privately making beef sorry I can't

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Speaker 1: even get it out, and instead of privately making beef,

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00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: stroking off in front of your laptop.

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Speaker 3: Stroke.

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Speaker 1: This is an incredible line. You could hop in the

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Speaker 1: DMS of the same people you make in Hot Salami too.

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Speaker 1: That is the iconic kid Marrow there tweeting about the

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Speaker 1: story that everyone wants to us to address tasks. And

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Speaker 1: that is the Zion Williamson story of the last week

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Speaker 1: or so. Do you have any thoughts because I love

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Speaker 1: that tweet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my number one thought. I had never heard

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Speaker 3: that term before.

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Speaker 1: Making beef stroking off in front of your laptop.

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Speaker 3: I grew up with the Internet. I grew up with

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Speaker 3: a laptop in front of me. I thought I had

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Speaker 3: heard every single slang euphemism that came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Beef's stroking off. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Interesting. You can

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Speaker 3: slide into your d ms and everybody in the NBA

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Speaker 3: has the capacity to make those dreams come true very quickly.

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Speaker 3: So interesting stuff do I have? I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: don't have anything on that much.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how much did you do on

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Speaker 1: the Zion story?

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Speaker 3: I did as much as I did for the baby

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Speaker 3: groc I watched I watched one video somebody who decided

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Speaker 3: to do a report on it. The old Twitter report

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Speaker 3: points up, this is the tweet, that is the person.

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Speaker 3: This is the tweet. So that's that's Oh I did?

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Speaker 3: How much did you do?

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Speaker 1: I definitely read way too many tweets from Is there

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Speaker 1: a name Mariah Mills? The woman that was putting him

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Speaker 1: on blast because Ion announces that he's having a baby.

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Speaker 3: With congratulations, I guess now partner.

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Speaker 1: At least the baby's mama. And then this other woman

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Speaker 1: goes nuts on Twitter with a lot of details of

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Speaker 1: their you know, relationship, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, the idea that he could slide in the

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Speaker 1: DMS instead of making beef stroking off and just do

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Speaker 1: it in real life. I mean, look, he's got himself

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Speaker 1: in some shit here. But he's a horny twenty year old.

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Speaker 3: He's not twenty Okay, you know what.

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: He's a horny young guy with millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Still horny at twenty two.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess he's having a baby. Congrats, yes,

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Speaker 1: question mark Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Period, period, Yeah, congrass period. We've done enough. We've done

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Speaker 3: enough on this, I said, Nate Robinson knows Chris Middleton's

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Speaker 3: knee history. That that was that, that's that's a stretch.

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Speaker 3: This also, we don't know anything. No, no, anyway, Oh man,

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Speaker 3: it sucks.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like Zion's got himself in some mudwater is a

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Speaker 5: comment from Sarah in the Stream Team. Fascinating he's a copywriter,

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Speaker 5: Great stuff, Sarah from the kid Marrot Good and from

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Speaker 5: Alex Wang and Bleacher Report for showing us Luca looking

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Speaker 5: exactly like he always looks, but he's looking lean again.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand you, thought, why aren't you saying he

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Speaker 1: looks good during the entire regular season?

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Speaker 3: Is the part I don't get j D's right cause

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Speaker 3: jerseys add fifteen pounds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: those are the tweets of the night. That's it for

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Speaker 1: us here on Saturday. Thanks for joining us live, hit

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Speaker 1: the like buttons, subscribe. We'll be back on Monday here

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Speaker 1: from the Classic Factory at ten am Eastern. Get you

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Speaker 1: ready for Game five, and then later on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: You know it, we're on playback again, second screen experience

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: for everybody here in the States. International League Pass users,

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: you're watching the game with us. We have had so

1228
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: much fun during these a lot of people tuning in.

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Speaker 1: So come join us here in the Factory at ten

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Speaker 1: o'clock on Monday morning and then later at eight thirty

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Monday night to watch the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 1: win the NBA Championship. There's your bulletin board material.

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing tying a bow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wrapped up that gift. There you go, put a

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Speaker 3: bow on it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, guys until Monday, Clipper Brows. You

1238
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember I haven't wrapped a

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: present in years. Now that I remember, I don't know

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01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: what you were doing sighing a bow. Usually I'm bag

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01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 3: throw a tissue paper, carry it. I don't gonna go

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: home and wrap.

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Speaker 1: A gift, but you got somebody Berkeley coming up.

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Speaker 3: Every day is a gift with my wife. I should

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Speaker 3: give a.

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Speaker 1: Gift about you, guys, Say what about you? Guys? I

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01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: guess I gotta go wrap a gift.

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Speaker 4: Albert, I'm waiting. I'm getting a gift next week. It's

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Speaker 4: Father's Day man.

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, eight days from fathers.

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Speaker 1: There's too many dads man to embrace the weekend people.

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Speaker 3: Goops. Thank Clipper bro.