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Speaker 1: Really really dalks look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: This this Morning Combat. It is a marvelous Monday right here.

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Speaker 3: June sixth, twenty twenty two. Morning Combat is back in studio.

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell. We are the hosts of this

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Speaker 3: program and we are delighted to be back with you today. BCEE,

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Speaker 3: how was the drive in? You know as I hear

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Speaker 3: all the people in the back top, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're still gooding. It's still a work in progress here,

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Speaker 1: but I'm here. I'm happy. They want the bod. Here's

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Speaker 1: the hot rod if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: This one's iron, this one's steal. If this don't get you,

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Speaker 3: this one wheel.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, Luke, we are back here because this is

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Speaker 1: where we belong.

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Speaker 3: This is where the show should be. The show over

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Speaker 3: zoom is not really this is it?

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Speaker 1: Remember one happy Gilmour was like go back to your home,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like like this is this

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Speaker 3: Dude? You know what I'm saying, Move's overrated, super orated.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is it's a little.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not overrated? Is all this stuff we're

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Speaker 3: going to get today. So we've got let's see Volkov

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Speaker 3: beating rosenstrike stroke whatever. We've got the Hani and Cambos's results,

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Speaker 3: We've got some stuff from Showtime, Fulton and Roman, plus

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Speaker 3: have you seen this ship? Plus dms from Donks and

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Speaker 1: More So, it's an uncomfortable level of energy between us

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Speaker 1: that can only be consummated right here on this day.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Angry Sext editorial wise thumbs up

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Speaker 3: on the video. If you're watching on YouTube, please stay subscribe,

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Speaker 3: and if you are listening on podcasts, do us a stall.

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Speaker 3: Give us a last review there as well. BC. How

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Speaker 3: was your weekend? Was it good?

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Speaker 1: I was in Minneapolis for the show travel. I want

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Speaker 1: to hear this? Let's bring it right in here, dear

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Speaker 1: the sport of boxing. We we we love certain arenas

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Speaker 2: I need to enter the armory in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: In that discussion, Luke Thomas, I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: But you go to enough fights in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, like sometimes it can because it's not always a

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Speaker 1: they like the taste of the weed too. A lot, okay,

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Speaker 1: a lot luke and that's fine, and you know they

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Speaker 3: I mean that Cuban dude went to David where else? Right,

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Speaker 3: for today. I saw a Top Gun.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got okay. So there's one scene where they

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Speaker 3: it's tremendous, all right, but we also had fights to

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Speaker 3: get to from the weekend, so one of hermind. Folks,

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Speaker 3: Combat at gmail dot com is the place to be

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 1: And how about David Appleton at Friday's fan submissions normally

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Speaker 3: I said this on Twitter. Folks like, oh, you should

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Speaker 3: get him on RSD Room Service diaries. Yes, open invitation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for us, big Eie, we will, we will put

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Speaker 1: You'll be in Delta eight. That's roy, that's where you'll be, okay,

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Speaker 3: like to say, oh yes, Showtime dot Com is the

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Speaker 3: And then what else am I forgetting?

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Speaker 1: I think that's oh you know who else said they

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Speaker 1: okay more Ronalo said he would sit on that couch.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't send anybody's couch these days.

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Speaker 3: Right. Also a reminder Morning Combat dot store. I think

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Speaker 3: We start with the UFC as we usually do. Alexander

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Speaker 1: In fact, in a lot of ways, he's going in

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Speaker 3: Was it okay?

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Speaker 3: These are ranked consecutively four to three to two. Curtis

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Speaker 3: Miocich is two. Now Miocich can wrestle, but assuming he is,

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Speaker 3: Blades would be that guy blaze because Tuey Vasa and

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Speaker 2: Hey tooy, let's bang, let's bang. It's hard, it's hard

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Speaker 3: Did you see episode one of season three of The Boys?

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of the Boys?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, season three episode one. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: Here really really not talking me into it yet, Luke, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Nope, but it's like a locker room. I forgot too.

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Speaker 3: Do you even ask? Oh? Yes, the Blades one, the

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I can agree with that.

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Speaker 2: What I can't agree with is you remember the nineties

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, come on, that was Denise Richards. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But and I and by the way, I stand by

437
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Speaker 1: that movie as being good, not great, but it's good.

438
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,359
Speaker 2: It was good in the thing, well good for what,

439
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,360
Speaker 2: good for a few things.

440
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Speaker 3: Good.

441
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,080
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a left dive into the off the

442
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,720
Speaker 1: highway into the ditch on the level of Million Dollar Baby.

443
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Speaker 1: And I'll never forgive my dad for recommending the movie

444
00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,320
Speaker 1: or Clint Eastwood. But looke, it does take a hard

445
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,359
Speaker 1: left turn when Kevin Bacon comes out of the shower

446
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Speaker 1: and they and they show is dong and it's like,

447
00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, I used to think, okay, well, maybe that's

448
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,920
Speaker 1: like like the entry fee we had to pay to

449
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Speaker 1: get that other scene that we're talking about. Oh I see,

450
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Speaker 1: So in that regard, do you think that's a good

451
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,520
Speaker 1: trade off. It's like, you can see Nev Campbell and

452
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Speaker 1: Denise Richards and a threesome with this guy, or you could.

453
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Speaker 3: Would you have to look at the dick of Kevin

454
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Speaker 3: Bay I.

455
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Speaker 1: Mean, you know, the thing is like that scene was

456
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Speaker 1: so gratuitous and unnecessary. I wonder if like Bacon heard

457
00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,240
Speaker 1: like they might be into it. He's like, oh yeah, dude,

458
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Speaker 1: what was the what was.

459
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Speaker 3: The movie Eastern Promises where Vigo Mortensen has to fight

460
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480
Speaker 3: for his life nude in the shower And I'm like, listen,

461
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Speaker 3: this is already graphic enough.

462
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Speaker 1: There's a scene like that in Borat with the with

463
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Speaker 1: the fat which one where they wrestle naked. It's it's unbelievable.

464
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Speaker 3: I mean it is.

465
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Speaker 1: It is so far like left field over the fence,

466
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Speaker 1: Like do.

467
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Speaker 3: You remember what his t shirts said at the professional

468
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Speaker 3: wrestling event? No? This assholes just for shitting. I mean,

469
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Speaker 3: we've been in the studio five minutes and we're like

470
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Speaker 3: dick and balls. All right, anything else to add on

471
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Speaker 3: the UFC main event? But which direction it goes? By

472
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Speaker 3: the way, if I'm just speaking out loud, please if

473
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 3: we don't have to have that many UFC main events

474
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,000
Speaker 3: for fight nights, I'd be okay with that.

475
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Speaker 2: If we don't have to have like what if we

476
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Speaker 2: can have.

477
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Speaker 3: A contenders fight between two highly ranked people in another

478
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Speaker 3: division other than I just know like these heavyweight fights,

479
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,879
Speaker 3: there's there's not that, there's no value to them. But

480
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Speaker 3: as headliners, they're not.

481
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Speaker 1: Flight card out without them, without heavyweight in Cole Maine

482
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Speaker 1: or the main event. It seems sometimes I know, but

483
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Speaker 1: it was.

484
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Speaker 3: Do you think it's a little much like I would

485
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Speaker 3: have rather had Ega Egay? And no I was.

486
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Speaker 1: I was okay with this, really okay with this?

487
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Speaker 3: All right? All right, Well, with that in mind, we

488
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Speaker 3: transition now to the second topic. Let's talk about that

489
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 3: comin event, about a real hammer. Yeah, dude, unbelievable performance

490
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 3: by this guy. Most start again. I'm not trying to

491
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Speaker 3: pronounce his name, and I watch the fights on mutes.

492
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Speaker 3: I don't know how they said itv Loev. He basically

493
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Speaker 3: had what I would argue is maybe the best performance

494
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Speaker 3: of his entire career against Dany Egay. Wouldn't be a

495
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Speaker 3: unanimous decision. He didn't put him away, and all of

496
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: his fights have gone all the distance every time the BC.

497
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Speaker 3: You know the term ubl no not usama bin laden

498
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Speaker 3: upper bound limits. After watching what he did, I thought me, let.

499
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Speaker 1: Me Jim Gray you until you inappropriate in this time.

500
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Speaker 3: He was like my glock's on it. Tank h what

501
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Speaker 3: is the upper bound limit ofv Loev?

502
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Speaker 1: I asked you before this fight, Will we end the fight?

503
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Speaker 1: Will we come into MK on Monday and stay? You know,

504
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: let's add this guy to the Russian hammer list, And

505
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: what that list basically is is people born in Russia,

506
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: usually Augustan or former Russian bordering countries that look.

507
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Speaker 2: To have next in this entire sport.

508
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Speaker 1: Luke, I didn't think, you know, knowing how good Hega is,

509
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Speaker 1: even with the odds what they were, I didn't think

510
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Speaker 1: I'd be putting his name on the list. Dude, his

511
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Speaker 1: name is not only on the list. I'm trying to

512
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Speaker 1: figure out how close to Shavkott rockman Off this guy

513
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Speaker 1: should be, you know, how close to all these other

514
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: Russian hammers coming on that we love. You get my point, Luke,

515
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Speaker 1: He's coming on and I know you said, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: I haven't watched all of his fights. It hasn't always

517
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: looked like that, but how it looks right now. Everything

518
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: he throws and lands is hard, it's efficient, it's short,

519
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 1: he's got a motor and a half. He's no joke

520
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 1: on the ground, and to wrap it up in a bow.

521
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Speaker 1: He seems to have that backbone from that that side

522
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Speaker 1: of the world seems to produce in the fight game.

523
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Speaker 1: I mean, he he looks like he's a train coming on.

524
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Speaker 1: And it was said to see Ega take on so

525
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Speaker 1: much damage when I know he didn't seem to have

526
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Speaker 1: the firepower to do anything to have loft to dissuade

527
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Speaker 1: him at all.

528
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Speaker 3: Loops the firepower may have been an issue too, But

529
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Speaker 3: I honestly thought the thing that stood out to me

530
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Speaker 3: was you look at you like when they had the

531
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Speaker 3: tail and tape, you can just see Evloe is just

532
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: so incredibly good shape. But honestly, the thing that this

533
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: stood out to me was to his fight, IQ is

534
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: super high. When you go back and you watch this fight.

535
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Speaker 3: The thing that stood out to me was he never

536
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Speaker 3: elected to fight on Egay's terms. When Egay would blitz

537
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Speaker 3: or try to get into some kind of strike, guess

538
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: sometimes he had to roll and absorb it, but most

539
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Speaker 3: of the time he was out of the way, out

540
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: of the way, out of the way or out of

541
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Speaker 3: the way then countering or just finding Egay in between steps,

542
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: in between punches and then getting under need for takedown.

543
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: In other words, he initiated his offense on his terms,

544
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Speaker 3: not on Egay's ever, and it must have been so

545
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 3: frustrating for egay, because yeah, he could land a little

546
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Speaker 3: bit here, land a little bit there, but he couldn't

547
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Speaker 3: put anything substantive. There was no two three punch combinations

548
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 3: that were ever available. Even the ones that landed were

549
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: kind of deflected. And then on top of that, you know,

550
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 3: he yes, he could stop a couple of takedowns, but

551
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: in the end, he's just so relentless. His timing is

552
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: so good, and his understanding of when to press the

553
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 3: gas in the fight, when to hit the brakes, when

554
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 3: to go for the takedown when not, plus BC when

555
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: he gets you down there, his control from the back,

556
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: his risk control. He doesn't threaten a lot of submissions,

557
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: but he just makes his opponent work on his terms.

558
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: Everything is he is a brick. Yeah, dude, he's a

559
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Speaker 3: sensational afft.

560
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Speaker 2: He knows his way around the gym.

561
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Speaker 3: Also, he's just got great genetics. You know, I've worked

562
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Speaker 3: out a lot in my life. I've never never looked

563
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Speaker 3: like that.

564
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Speaker 2: Look, would you say?

565
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Speaker 1: The scary thing about ev Loev and other guys like

566
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Speaker 1: him right now who seem to be coming on And

567
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: it's not just the insane grappling ability and the pressure

568
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Speaker 1: that they can put on in the gas tank that

569
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Speaker 1: they have with that and that sort of exterior aor

570
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: but you can also see it coming from the internal toughness.

571
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Speaker 1: But like, dude, the IQ, like you're saying, they to

572
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Speaker 1: know how to I mean the idea they're going after

573
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Speaker 1: the gas tank and the heart and will of their opponent. Yes,

574
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Speaker 1: and they're doing it in such a calculated manner that

575
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know where the hole is. That's what I'm saying.

576
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about cambosis in his morning games.

577
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: But there's a real big difference between the bullshit he

578
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: was trying to pull on Saturday and what someone like

579
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: evloev does, which is I mentioned it before. Look at

580
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Speaker 3: how Dan Egay, who by the way, is a black

581
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 3: belt in jiu jitsu, highly experienced competitor. Right, you could

582
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: say he's fallen short against the upper limits of that division.

583
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: But against Gavin Tucker, who I take very seriously as

584
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: an opponent, he dusted him off inside of a round.

585
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: Like he is a very good fighter. He had to

586
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: constantly reinforce his own composure. He had to constantly find

587
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: this balance between urgency and composure. Because what Evlof does

588
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: is again I'm going to only launch my offense on

589
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: my terms, never yours. You can never kind of build

590
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Speaker 3: on what you're trying to do. And then on the

591
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Speaker 3: ground you are always playing catch up with him. He

592
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: is always won two steps defining what's next, and you're

593
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 3: just trying to cover the distance of what he has

594
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: done just to keep up. Now the big knock on him,

595
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 3: and I think it's fair. He is not a devastating finisher.

596
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: He has zero finishes in the UFC. All of his

597
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: fights have gone the distance.

598
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: But but don't you have zero fear because everything he

599
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: throws is heard heavy in those damage.

600
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Speaker 3: Look, I'm glad you brought this up. I have zero

601
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: fear against guys maybe seven to ten. I gotta tell you,

602
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: I think that might cost him down the line. And

603
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't know when.

604
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Speaker 1: Against style is set up to accumulate damage though, So

605
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Speaker 1: that's maybe why I don't fear it his style.

606
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Speaker 3: I mean, if against Volkanovski, that shit ain't gonna fly.

607
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 3: It's not gonna fly, It's not gonna work at all.

608
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: He is gonna take all that shit where you're defining

609
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: the terms because against the.

610
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Speaker 1: Beat too, it won't happen.

611
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: But if you ever fought yeah, if the beat ever

612
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: stopped being a doctor and came back to fight, but

613
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: agains the guy like Volkanofsky who's gonna make you react

614
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: and make you think and then make you zag when

615
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: you're supposed to sig, and he's gonna take advantage of it.

616
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Has a very much of a weight style weight weight

617
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Speaker 3: weight go. He's almost like a much more polished Uel

618
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: Romero a little bit. He's just a much more calculated,

619
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: careful where Romero didn't get in these like wild exchanges

620
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 3: all the time. As he developed as a striker, it

621
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: was I'm going to weight block, block, roll, slip, blah

622
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: blah blah, and now when I want to go, I'm

623
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: going to go. Now. He would have these wild blitzes

624
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: which Evloev does not have. But the idea of like

625
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: taking my time, it's going to be on my terms,

626
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: not on yours. We're not going to have these exchanges.

627
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of that. And I'm going to

628
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: bring up the rankings. Here, tell me who you would

629
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: favor against him Evloev in the one hundred and forty

630
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: five pound division.

631
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: All right, love this game, all right?

632
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: Now? You know, granted he has ranked in a different spot.

633
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: But I'm going to read you the top top seven.

634
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: How about that? Actually top eight? Fuck it, let's do

635
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: top ten. Because Egay was well, we need to we

636
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: need as a hammer, Yeah, Egay, and we have a

637
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: hammer on set because we need to ring the bell. Okay,

638
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 3: So he beat Egay pretty cleanly. This is a phenomenal fight.

639
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: I saw people suggesting this one should be next Bryce Mitchell. Wow,

640
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: exactly right rate. Now here's the difference between them. Bryce

641
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 3: Mitchell grabs the fight by the scruff of the name.

642
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he'll he'll chew coffee, grinds Luke. We've

643
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: seen that, We've seen.

644
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: That's not that big a deal. But yeah, what do

645
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: you think, what's your gut tell you?

646
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: If Evlof is as good as he appears to be

647
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: in some of those other intangible character categories including IQ

648
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: to adapt and and you know, have ground game obviously,

649
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: but if the difference in them comes down to the

650
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: damage that he can land, yeah, I'd pick him right

651
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: now off that performance. Seriously, I would I would get

652
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: at Chakazi.

653
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: See, I would favor Evo f more against Jakazi that

654
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: way against Mitchell. Right, because one of the things that

655
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: a guy like EVLF can do is catch a kick

656
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: for a takedown, and kicking is a huge part of

657
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: Jikazi's game.

658
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: Seven and again, Bryce Mitchell has handled a couple of

659
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: guys with more ease than you expected, and he's a.

660
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: Better finisher as well. Sorry Bryce. Seven Josh Emmett. It's tough.

661
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: It is tough, and I love Josh Emmett, but I'm

662
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: taking flo at this point.

663
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: Okay, now here's where he started getting into the real

664
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: heavy hitters, at least metaphorically speaking. Six Arnold Allen. Now,

665
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: Arnold is very high fight ike as well. He's taking

666
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: almost no damage in his career.

667
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: For some reason, I still need to see a little

668
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: bit more from Arnold.

669
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's been steady and solid, and I know

670
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: his last finish was was real quick, right hooker.

671
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: It was.

672
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: It was the kind like it was the kind of

673
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: performance that he had been missing up to that point.

674
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: So I do realize the momentum is on. I don't

675
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: know if he could be that flow if I don't know, Okay.

676
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: Five Korean Zombie. I take Vlowe over Zombie because he

677
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: can control him on the ground.

678
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, thank you.

679
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: Oh we got the hammer.

680
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: We got the Russian hand at the mat.

681
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you?

682
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, four. Calvin Cater Now that's an interesting one too.

683
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting one because Cater can can really box.

684
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't, man, my gut's telling me to go to

685
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: the Russian hammer. But but you know, eventually, like you

686
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: don't know what, you don't know if you haven't been there,

687
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: you don't know that the bridge.

688
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: No, dude, okay, here's where yet. Real interesting. Three. I

689
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: hear Rodriguez. See, here's the thing. This is not hard

690
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: to pick. Rodriguez is such a phenomenal striker. But if

691
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: Max can take him down and hold him, you have

692
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: to imagine Evilo Wev can do that too. Brian Ortega,

693
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: Now that's a little bit dicey because Brian Ortega's got

694
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: a hell of a ground.

695
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: Okay, but Brian Ortega needs to make a major change,

696
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: and that's his lust to get into you know, boxing

697
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: matches that quickly.

698
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: Turned into life and death brawls like Luke.

699
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: He's got to get off that shit. And while he

700
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: was able to rescue his name against Volkanovsky to a

701
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: certain degree by the drama of his like out of nowhere,

702
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: submission threats. We haven't seen a like balanced, strong performance

703
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: from him since the Korean Zombie comeback fight, where it

704
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: was just dominant, but like he seemed to go away

705
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: from that now. I know that you can't fight like

706
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: that against everybody. He had the distinct speed advantage against

707
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: the Korean Zombie and that's a big part of why

708
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: that looked like the masterpiece it was. But dude, when

709
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: the he's just dude, he's he's ready to get He's

710
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: ready to go all the way in the first date, Luke,

711
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: every moment of every fight, you know what I mean,

712
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: And probably it probably is in reality as well, because

713
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: he's got a Derek Jeter like run going.

714
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: But my point is, Luke, that nobody loves Ortega more

715
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: than me.

716
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: Nobody loves to talk to the talk people into the

717
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: idea that in any given matchup, this guy can beat anyway.

718
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: And I mean we've seen it, we've seen the flashes

719
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: of brilliance.

720
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: I think take us a little smarter than you're giving him. Crudit.

721
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: No, he's very smart, but he's too content to lean

722
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: on his intangibles. He's too content to like, I'm just

723
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna go in there and have fun. But I'm not

724
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: going to panic if I fall down, because I know

725
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I can rescue myself. He leans on the on the

726
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: ability to rescue, I think far too easily.

727
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: Gives you a real appreciation for what Charles Olavera has

728
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: done with something of a similar game.

729
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Very true, So would you would you bang the hammer

730
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: for of love against Ortega? We're getting a little ahead

731
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: of ourselves. I mean, he did look ray, but Danny

732
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Gay is also I mean, let's not bury this, bury

733
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: this hammer up?

734
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: You ask he Danny Gay?

735
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: As much as I love him, Luke is showing a

736
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: trend of his upper bottom limits as well. You know,

737
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: is this a little bit of a fool's gold or

738
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: is this sixteen? And oh ev Louev ready to join

739
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: that list that also has islam Matchev.

740
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: Maybe last two, of course would be Halloway and Volkanowski.

741
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: I would favor those two over him. But you get

742
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: the idea, like you can at least imagine a world

743
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: to be. And then there's the beat who's not even

744
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 3: relevant by the way, wanted him, by the way.

745
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: Who wins versus lo? Oh did you have You're not

746
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: been watching except watching, except for that one round against

747
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: cater Have you not been watching?

748
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: Have you not been watching? Okay, Well, with that out

749
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: of the way, BC, let's move on now to topic

750
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: number three. We'll talk about a little bit of boxing.

751
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: We'll come back to the UC card in a minute.

752
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit of boxing. Topic number three.

753
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: Here we go. How about it be C Devin Haney

754
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: outclassed George Campbell.

755
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I hate to say I told you so, like to

756
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the world.

757
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: To you is VC is very upset and all the

758
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: angry dms he got, So I'm gonna let him have

759
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: first word in here. Obviously, he becomes now the undisputed

760
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: lightweight champion. I want to come back to the fact

761
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: that there's like three fights three fighters in the last

762
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: year that I've gone undisputed. I don't think I've seen

763
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: that in a while. But point being, is this beyond

764
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: capturing the belts BCE, what did Devin Haney prove with

765
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: this performance? What do you show you?

766
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: He showed me that the flashes of brilliance we've seen

767
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: in this most recent run of you know, pretty good

768
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: names that he's beaten from Gamboa to to you know

769
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: where he got rock laid against Lenaris, and on and

770
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: on through the most recent victory against Diaz.

771
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: It showed me that all the stuff I talked.

772
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: On Friday's show about who I think Devin Haney really

773
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: is at the end of the day, did you have

774
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: a little hiccup against Lenaris, Yes, did they have things

775
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to question, yes, But that skill is different and it's

776
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: potentially great, and I mean really great, which is why

777
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: when we had that sort of debate Friday, I said, look,

778
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: when you look at him, do you see a future

779
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Spencer Crawford?

780
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this performance answer that question.

781
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: So I don't see that.

782
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: It did not solidify it for a few reasons, but

783
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: does it take you in that direction? It starts to

784
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: take you in that direction because this is who he's

785
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be. And when the stage was the brightest

786
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: flying too. I mean, he's twenty three years old, and

787
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: when you know a little bit more about his backstory,

788
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: like he had the chance to go to the Olympic

789
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: root in the amateur root and instead his dad and

790
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: him made the decision at age seventeen.

791
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: To turn pro.

792
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Only you can't get a license in the States at seventeen,

793
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: so he went to Mexico and was fighting in Mexican

794
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: bars basically and put together like a run of fights

795
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: and got experienced against all different styles, says a seventeen

796
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: year old Luke. Then they went shopping for a promoter

797
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: and had everybody coming after them.

798
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: So they've been very calculated to get to this point.

799
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: And Luke, I know that.

800
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I always say, let's not compare anyone to the suit,

801
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: to the real grades, like let's never compare to someone

802
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: to Floid, because Floyd is so different so specially Yet

803
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: what am I doing. I'm going Kirrse Stevenson. If anyone

804
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: looks like a pretty boy Flood, it's him. There are

805
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: some elements of Hani that are that are almost Floyd like.

806
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: And I think this for me, who's been a big

807
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: boaster of him despite some of his growing pains. And no,

808
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: he's not a big commercial asset. I get that he

809
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: is who he is though you know who he is.

810
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: He's a great boxer and at its corps, I said,

811
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: coming in, and let's not forget. Twenty three years old

812
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: went to enemy territory forty plus thousand, booing the national

813
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: anthem of the of his home country.

814
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: The whole scenario with his dad flying.

815
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Down there last minute. Yet he went in there and

816
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: he just he sees those titles. And I do have

817
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot to say about cambosis. But to just stay

818
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: on the Haini side. First, what did he show me?

819
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: He's going to spead a lightweight champion of the world

820
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: at twenty three and he's beaten good names to get

821
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: to this point. And if none of that, all that

822
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: pregame stuff was gonna mess with him. And this was

823
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: just a matchup of skill versus skill. Not only did

824
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I like him Luke, I liked him big now. I

825
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: ended up predicting he would win eight rounds to four.

826
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: It's funny that two of the three scorecards were that,

827
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: even though none of us think it actually should have

828
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: been eight rounds to four. I scored it ten rounds

829
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: to two watching it, you could have scored it, you know,

830
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: twelve nothing if you wanted to. He absolutely dominated this

831
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: fight and there were a lot of our hungry, aggressive

832
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Australian boxing fans that DM slid me hard with the

833
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: cleats up, saying, you know, I'm gonna screenshot this, I'm

834
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: gonna remember this. You're you know, you're all over hany

835
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: No if all is even and it turned out to

836
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: be Saturday night when they touch gloves and none of

837
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: that stuff was an excuse or anything. Dude, Haney is

838
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: special and it's going to be boring at times because

839
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: there's some there's some floid in him. His ability to

840
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: move his head, to set up his offense, to work

841
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: from distance, to have an educated but hard jab, and

842
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: to you know, not waste his right hand.

843
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, is he as exciting as you would want

844
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: to be?

845
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: No?

846
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: Did he did he dial in and go for the finish?

847
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: Not really?

848
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: In this fight, it was about controlling the terms.

849
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: But Luke, that's maybe that may be more who he

850
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: is down the stretch, but that's not going to stop

851
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: him from winning big fights.

852
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: Will it stop him from certain commercial game.

853
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Maybe, But that ability, whether he needs to, if he's

854
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: under pressure, or whether he just wants to to basically

855
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: say I'm going to out box you from this distance,

856
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it. Show me guys

857
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: that can beat that.

858
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: There's not a ton that can beat that.

859
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: Luke, it was incredibly special. I mean, you're right, like

860
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: there is I think a fair criticism of Devin Haney

861
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: that he is going to be how would you put it,

862
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: maybe opponent dependent, given how exciting he will be. So

863
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: in this case, heiny was so far past Cambosis that

864
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: Cambos has had Dude, Cambosis's offense barely fits into the

865
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: picture of this fight.

866
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: I got a lot to say about it.

867
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: There's almost yeah, there's almost nothing to say about his

868
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: offense because it barely ever materialized. I think he picked

869
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: up on something we should just really harp on one

870
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: more time. A twenty three year old kid flew all

871
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: the way to Australia to fight the hometown guy who

872
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: was coming off the most celebrated win maybe of the

873
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: year in boxing, certainly his career. Went into a stadium

874
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: with forty thousand of his countrymen. There was all those

875
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: Greek slash Austin guys chanting in the corner like a

876
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: like soccer hooligans, and he silenced all of them through

877
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: thirty six fucking minutes of boxing by being vastly better

878
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: than George Camboses. I was saying this like heading into

879
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: the twelfth I'm like, look, man. After the eleventh round,

880
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: I was like, look, is it possible that Cambosis could

881
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: pull a rabbit out of his hat in the TWELFTHI

882
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: as it's possible, but skill for skill, these were not peers.

883
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: Devin Haney was far superior and to have that composure

884
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: because I was thinking about this was the Is Camboss

885
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: the toughest fight that Devin Haney has had? No, it's not.

886
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: It's not the toughest fight. But the circumstances tell you

887
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: everything you need to know about his upside, the distance

888
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: he's put himself between himself and Cambosa's craft. Yes, his craft,

889
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: I want to say this, but the guts it took

890
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: as a competitor. And by the way, credits to Cambosis

891
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: for doing.

892
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: What he did of a seventeen year old going into

893
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: like box.

894
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: Major major fucking cohonas on that guy and his composure

895
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: when he's getting booed in the whole nine dude, he

896
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: shut up forty They were quiet as a fucking church mouse.

897
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: What do you like?

898
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: What do you because I see a lot, but I

899
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: might be overdoing it. We're gonna find out. What do

900
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: you like about his game up to this point?

901
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: Heiny, Yeah, his jab was phenomenal, His job was phenomenal.

902
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: He builds behind it doesn't quite have the same mte

903
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: or gumption that Spence does. I do think that there's

904
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: a big difference between them.

905
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Not offensively inclined as a bud or a spense to

906
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: finish a guy when he has.

907
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: But he's got extremely high fight IQ. Again, the job

908
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: is phenomenal. He can build stuff behind it. And dude,

909
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: he was boxing. He was boxing literal circles around him.

910
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: Dude, his head movement is so and he hasn't wasted either.

911
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Some guys were just constantly moving and that's their style.

912
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: Think Dom Cruz an Mma or what have you. Although

913
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: there's calculation between what Dom does. You get that, But dude,

914
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: his I mean, he sees everything and he's out of

915
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: the way of it. So again, this is a great

916
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: It's an elite win given the stakes. But at the

917
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: end of the day, I had questions and concerns. Of course,

918
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: is Cambosos potentially an elite opponent or somebody who just

919
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: in the best case scenario in his favor against Lopez

920
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: pulled the perfect upset and had to get off the

921
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: canvas around ten to do that. I think Luke this

922
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: for cambosis was he was who I thought he was

923
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: coming in and I know that we overlooked.

924
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: Which is what a good lightweight, which.

925
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Is a good lightweight who on given knights could give

926
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: great lightweights some issue or.

927
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: Or beat them.

928
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: But he's not great, and it's not a knock against him.

929
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: He's he's kind of overachieving to some degree. But I

930
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of issue with how he fought this fight.

931
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: You know what he fought like Luke. He fought like

932
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: a guy with a guaranteed rematch in his back pocket,

933
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: and that's.

934
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: Essentially what he has. Look, let's not lie like he might.

935
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: He dominated the free agent market after the win over Lopez,

936
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: meaning cambosas he had suitors everywhere him and loud Debella.

937
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: They ended up going with ESPN and in Bob Merriman

938
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Topprank as their co promoter. Then they got they used

939
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: that to lure hey Nei to come over. But Cambosa's

940
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: had an automatic rematch that you normally only see for

941
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: the champion in situations where the champions, you know, marketing

942
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: size is so much larger compared to the opposit is.

943
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: A rematch clause automatical because he was a mandatory there's

944
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: a oh, what's the rule there? In boxing where you

945
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: have the a side automatically gets the rematch, although sorry,

946
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 3: the beltholder automatically has the rematch clause. No, I don't.

947
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know specifically what they're referencing. This was a situation,

948
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: as far as my knowledge, what was negotiated in, which

949
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: is obviously smart to do.

950
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: The problem with this is there's a major problem one.

951
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: Cambosis fought like a guy who basically said, and he

952
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: said this afterwards, he's, you know, when they asked about

953
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: him losing, he's like, look, I had a game plan

954
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: and I carried it out, and everything he talked about was, well,

955
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: don't worry the I'm gonna make the adjustments for the rematch.

956
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: He fought like a guy who came out there thinking

957
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: and knowing, I'm going.

958
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: To get two fights.

959
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: So in fight one, let me try my best to

960
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: beat him this way, which turned out to be boxing

961
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: from a counterpuncher position, and if it doesn't work, don't

962
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: worry about it. As long as I don't get knocked out,

963
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: we'll just do the rematch. The problem, obviously, is that

964
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: nobody wants to see the rematch, and nor should they

965
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: after that type of performance. I never saw Cambosis, although

966
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: he did land a single punches, had a few okay moments,

967
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: but not only did he never put stuff with it

968
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: to combine because he couldn't catch.

969
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: Up to Haney.

970
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: He never went for broke and the reason why that

971
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: in the end, and that'll look you can argue from

972
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: a strategic standpoint, if he realized he's gonna lose it

973
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 1: with plan A, is it better to not get knocked

974
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: out if you're getting the rematch anyway?

975
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Strategically, is it better for him?

976
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

977
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: You could argue that, but it's not better or the

978
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: commercial side of this or anyone's care level. And I

979
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: think he screwed himself. And what do I mean by this?

980
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: We had fears that Hani might secretly have a bad chin, right,

981
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: It was that hook against Lenaris in nine rounds nine

982
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: and ten that put Hani running around, you know, covering up,

983
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: doing everything he could to avoid contact. But we never

984
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: saw that again from Haiti. The times that Devin Haney

985
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: puts himself into trouble or near trouble is usually when

986
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: he's up big in a fight and he gets very comfortable.

987
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: Think when he put it on Lenaris for eight straight

988
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: rounds and you know, look when he's in control. Then

989
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: sometimes the safety comes off and Devin Haney starts to

990
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: let his hands go, and those are the moments when

991
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: you can catch him with something. Cambos has never allowed

992
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: himself to get to those moments, meaning he was almost

993
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: too responsible defensively. He never went for broke and tried

994
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: to lure Hane enough into a fight. When Luke tell me,

995
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong in a skirmish, is going to end

996
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: up being Campbos' is his best chance to take advantage

997
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: or steal the fight right by wobbling Haiti. By doing that,

998
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: he's trying to counter with a guy who is light

999
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: years ahead of him in terms of actual boxing craft, speed, timing,

1000
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, and to be a counterfuntier against.

1001
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: Somebody That ingles he was using are ridiculous.

1002
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: And Haney was so great because once he realized that, oh,

1003
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: this guy's only going to counter me. That's part of

1004
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: why Haini didn't go. Hany wasn't more offensive and more exciting,

1005
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: And again I think that's just gonna be who he is.

1006
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: If you come after him, he'll be exciting because he

1007
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: has to. But if you're not going to make him

1008
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: do that, he's just sort of like, yeah, man, I'll

1009
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: win here all day, and I'm fine with it. Cambosis

1010
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: never tried to make him do that, Luke, and I

1011
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: hope it wasn't just from the idea of Okay, this

1012
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: one didn't go our way, but we'll do it again,

1013
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: because seriously, nobody wants this fight. So even if if

1014
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: they have to make it, you know, because it's a

1015
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: it's a contractual thing, you know, then go ahead and

1016
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: make it. But there's not gonna be What do you

1017
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: what do you what do you tune it in for?

1018
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: How do you tell you how do you sell the

1019
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: rematch other than Cambosis can pull the cord the rip

1020
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: chord on the contract, and short of that, what on

1021
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: earth would be the sales? Real quickly? How did you

1022
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: score it in your mind? Ten rounds to two, That's

1023
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: how I had it, the four rounds for Cambosa's Let's

1024
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: be very clear about that. That is fucking generous. That

1025
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: is very generous. I'm scoring so when you lose ten

1026
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: rounds and the two he scored, frankly one of them

1027
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: to me was a bit of a pity round, but like, okay,

1028
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: either way, he got two rounds at least cleanly. Maybe

1029
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: Let's say, dude, why the fuck do you sell that?

1030
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: Like he barely did anything into two rounds.

1031
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: Anything he hate about it the most, Like why did

1032
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: he make his name?

1033
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: He made his name by being Lopez.

1034
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, going after Lopez and learn him into a fight and.

1035
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: Taking don't forget the whole drug Lopez in the first round.

1036
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was gonna say before that drop, he

1037
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: got his ass kicked by Lopez in the first round.

1038
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Until that drop. That's why that round was one of

1039
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: the best of you know, one of the most wild

1040
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: rounds we've seen in years. Dude, he didn't go after

1041
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: it and try to seize it again. He played with

1042
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: some He played like somebody knowing he had them all again,

1043
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: knowing he had a second chance, He had a he

1044
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: had an immunity, idol, whatever you want to call it.

1045
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: Only nobody's gonna care now, I mean, if you're Bob

1046
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: Barram and I did see there was a quote from Aaron.

1047
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know the context of it, but he said, look,

1048
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I love I love the match Haney in the future

1049
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: against Lomachenk.

1050
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: Of course, of course he would. We would love that, Look,

1051
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be great.

1052
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: We don't really know Lomachenko was Curren't standing as it

1053
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: relates to the Ukraine conflict and whether or not he's

1054
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: willing to go training and all that, although it seems

1055
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: like Oosik is and what is going to enter camp

1056
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: for Joshua this summer.

1057
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: But if you can find a way.

1058
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: As ESPN and top rank to say, okay, okay, if

1059
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: we still owe we still owe Camboss this rematch, But hey, Cambosis,

1060
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: will you take a little step aside money Lomo, you

1061
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: ready because we can make Devin Haney potentially into a

1062
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: into the star that his ability screams he might have

1063
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: the potential to be. Imagine him against Loma on pay

1064
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: per view for all four belts, like like, that's what

1065
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: I want to see next. I don't I don't think

1066
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: we need this. And I'm not saying the second fight

1067
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: couldn't be better and it couldn't be closer. Dude, if

1068
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Cambosis goes for broke, he's got a shot to try

1069
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: to he can't try.

1070
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: To bring in the two what would have to be

1071
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: different the second time? For me, one of the big

1072
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: differences was there was a couple of like very fleeting

1073
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: moments where you saw a little inkling of this. He

1074
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: has got to get handy up on the ropes. Yeah,

1075
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: if hany has room to move, he can't win. He

1076
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: cannot win. He has to corral this guy either into

1077
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: the corner or on the rope line and then press

1078
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: them there. Of that, what would be the adjustment? I

1079
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 3: honestly don't even know at this point.

1080
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: And dude, I'm not mad at like Campbell's like, he's

1081
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: he's funny, He's an opportunist, he worked hard to get

1082
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: to this point. I'm just he he didn't show who

1083
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: he was in this first way at all. Don't you

1084
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: want to go out swinging? Don't you want to earn up?

1085
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: Saying well, it's easy for a consumer to say. But

1086
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: the thing that got me was when he missed weight

1087
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: initially on Friday. So then he makes it and it

1088
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: wasn't he was huge over. It was just point three

1089
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: six pounds. But you know, rules of rules, we had

1090
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: to make it.

1091
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: And he made it, and he claimed that the scale

1092
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: was off at the hotel.

1093
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 3: And dude, and then then he says it's part of

1094
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: mind games. Well, what fucking game? Like? I saw all

1095
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 3: twelve rounds, I didn't see any fruit from that tree

1096
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: being planted. Like he was too clever by half with

1097
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: this bullshit, like we were talking about, well, I'm gonna

1098
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: play mine games with this guy. Dude, you missed weight.

1099
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: That's there's no game here. You can you can lie

1100
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: to the crowd, you can say to whatever media will

1101
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: just repeat what you say. That's fine, but like the

1102
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: reality was not that he wasn't up to the task

1103
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: or you know again, he beat Lopez fairly and he

1104
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: earned this opportunity and by the way, be credited with

1105
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: him as well. All that rastledus and stuff he talks.

1106
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: It is good for selling the fight, yes, but at

1107
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: some point you have to be self aware, like that's

1108
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: not enough to beat Devin Haney, even when he's flying

1109
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: all the way across the other side of the earth

1110
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: to come fight you. At the end of the day,

1111
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: it's about skills and dude, Devin Haney is better by

1112
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: a lot, so.

1113
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: In the rematch, I think he would perform better because

1114
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: I think he's, you know, nothing else to lose.

1115
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: He's got to be himself.

1116
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: I also think that could speed up his exit, and

1117
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna be If there's any hook about the second fight.

1118
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: For me, it's gonna be if Cambosis comes out and

1119
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: really tries to win it like he should. Can Hany

1120
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: then stop him? Can Haney stay out of trouble and

1121
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: finish him? That'll be the hook and the look what

1122
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: to look for in the rematch. But man, it's tough

1123
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: because like, No'm wondering, what were they gonna screw Haney?

1124
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean you look at those scores, two judges, eight rounds, the.

1125
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: One sixteen, one twelve, and here's the thing he has,

1126
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: here's the thing. It wasn't like the crowd was in

1127
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: that fight.

1128
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: So let's say let's say Cambosis, you had on two

1129
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: rounds where he actually where you legitimately could have said,

1130
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: oh yeah those are his rounds, like two more rounds,

1131
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: only two more, telling me that would have been to draw,

1132
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: Like are you fucking kidney off?

1133
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: That? So what?

1134
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: So we could have gone to that rematch like, oh,

1135
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: Haney needs to get justice for us life like this.

1136
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: These are some of those moments boxing, right, These are

1137
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: some of those moments where you're just like, I see you,

1138
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I see you?

1139
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: Is the rematch? Is it? I know he has a rematch? Clause?

1140
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 3: Does the rematch call for the fight to also be

1141
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: in Australia.

1142
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't know the terms of the rematch clause.

1143
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: And again I'm hoping that if you're Bob Berryman Company

1144
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: in ESPN, you can try to try to find a

1145
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: way to say, Okay, well, can we do it a

1146
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: little bit later, you know, can we push it off?

1147
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: Because you can't run that.

1148
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: Thing right back.

1149
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean, in the end they may have to.

1150
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: What we saw Deonte Wallader go to court to make

1151
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: sure he got that third fear fear right won the arbitration. Yeah,

1152
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: that's fight.

1153
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, a deal is a deal.

1154
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: I have no issue with that. I have an issue

1155
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: with not putting your best foot forward the first time

1156
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: around and seemingly just going no, don't worry, mate, we'll

1157
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: see it. We'll see at the rematch.

1158
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: You know, I think that the Lopez fight the Haney

1159
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: fights are really what you said it was. Now we

1160
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: have a much better sense of him, which is do

1161
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: I put him on par with I don't know how

1162
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: high Ryan Garcia is to be canning with you, but

1163
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: he certainly got a big name in terms of no

1164
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: in terms of like who are the better guys at

1165
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: one thirty five. I wouldn't put him at the very

1166
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: very top of the list, I don't think, but I

1167
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: think you're right. If they don't take him seriously, he

1168
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: can absolutely beat them, dude. But if they do take

1169
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: him seriously, and Hani looked to be fucking dialed in,

1170
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it's hopeless, but it's an uphill climb.

1171
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Hanier and Ryan Garcia, by the way, fought four times

1172
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: the amateurs they went to and two well, they have

1173
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: like a legit history and they both fight or Hani

1174
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: used to fight for his own so it seemed like

1175
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: it was no brainer matchup.

1176
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: They never were never able to have.

1177
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: A question for you though. Yeah, we have witnessed in

1178
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: the last year because I think Canelo fought plant and

1179
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: what like November, right, so not twenty two, but twenty

1180
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: twenty one, he unified one sixty eight. Then we had

1181
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: this one unifying lightweight. Then we had Jamel Charlow a

1182
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: week or two ago unifying. Dude, is in my imagination,

1183
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: are guys going forward in boxing in ways they haven't

1184
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: gone forward in quite some time.

1185
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I've been saying this, Have I been saying this on

1186
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: the air, Yes, But now you have like.

1187
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: This proof, Like people are literally unifying titles in ways

1188
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: that you just don't see very often.

1189
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: The guys want the smoke in this new and I

1190
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a reaction. Things are cyclical. And again,

1191
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: like Floyd handled his business in a way that no

1192
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: one can ever equal. I mean, he was amazing at

1193
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: it in terms of matchmaking, making money, always having the advantage,

1194
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: and I think too many guys tried to like model

1195
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: that and do that.

1196
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: But like you know, to be a legend and to

1197
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: be really great, you got to beat the best.

1198
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: The guys seem to want to beat the best now,

1199
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: so it was always hard in the four belt era,

1200
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: which people always say, what does that mean the four

1201
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: belt era? People will argue, some people think the four

1202
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: belt era starts in like nineteen eighty nine when the

1203
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: fourth belt was launched, but the fourth belt wasn't recognized for.

1204
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: Like a long ass time.

1205
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Some people argue it wasn't really recognized until right around

1206
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: like two thousand and four to two thousand and five

1207
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: or even later. So like a lot of boxing, it's

1208
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: all kind of how you look at it in a

1209
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: little bit bullshit. But to see this trend run right

1210
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: now where these fighters not only want to become undisputed

1211
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: where they basically they're not just like, oh, I want

1212
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: this money fight, in this money fight, They're like, I

1213
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: want the belts and what comes with that, the legitimacy,

1214
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: the critical respect. So to do that, I got to

1215
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: fight everybody was a champion. And it's obviously in this

1216
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: in this era of networks being so align with promotions,

1217
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: it's harder to do than ever before. Yet we're doing it.

1218
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: So some of that also, we have to shout out

1219
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: the alphabets, the four sanctioning bodies who are hard to

1220
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: shout out because of some of their own sins or

1221
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: suspected sins. But yet at the same time, we didn't

1222
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: used to have four bell on the speedy champions because

1223
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to do that and the sanctioning bodies don't

1224
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: like to work together. Or wait, you know what if

1225
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: your WBC and your mandatories do.

1226
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: And why does that matter?

1227
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Because every time you fight with that title, every time

1228
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: you fight with that title, you have to pay the

1229
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: WBC or the WBA to fight.

1230
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: For it and represent it.

1231
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: It's a little ridiculous, but the whole point is that

1232
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: now it seems like they're doing less of like, well,

1233
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to strip you because you're taking that fight.

1234
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: We want you to fight this fight.

1235
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, they're working together. So dude, I think it

1236
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of started with Usik right in twenty eighteen, right,

1237
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Cruise Away and Crawford did a one forty, and eventually

1238
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Taylor did a one forty. But in between you had

1239
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: a couple of times on the women's side. But more specifically,

1240
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you know, Dremel just did it. Canelo hany,

1241
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's now Steven Fulton Junior. We're going

1242
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: to talk about a second on I love it because

1243
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: there's way too many thousand boxing we've already established this.

1244
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: But the rare times that you don't have doubt, the

1245
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: rare times that it's one name, one face, one division,

1246
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: as Deontay Wilder used to say, like yeah, that's when

1247
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: you can it's easier to follow, You start to take

1248
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: it more seriously because there's not a lot of people

1249
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: claiming their champions. No, we got ann disputed champion. Yeah,

1250
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: this is what dude. Things are happening in boxing.

1251
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: Right fucking awesome. I mean, damn, it really is quite exciting.

1252
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: While the MMA fans hating on It's dude, I you're

1253
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: an MA fan, you don't like boxing. I'm not gonna

1254
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: hear to tell you like like what you like, dislike

1255
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: what you dislike. But if you're going to say bad

1256
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: things about boxing, they better be truthful. They better be truthful.

1257
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: And the idea that like right now things are shitty

1258
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: either promotionally or from an athletic competition standpoint, is just

1259
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: so far removed from reality. I barely know what to say.

1260
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: All right, we move on topic number four BC. You

1261
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 3: are there there on Saturday night in Minneapolis. Stephen Fulton Junior.

1262
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: How about this guy? What a fucking marvel he is?

1263
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: Just let's just say it out loud. He outclassed Danny

1264
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: Ramond and it wasn't especially close ever, wide scores the

1265
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: whole way through BC. I would love to get your

1266
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: take on this, but here's one thing I would just

1267
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: want to say. I'm not going to say that Stephen

1268
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: Fulton Junior did everything he wanted, but he basically did

1269
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: everything he wanted. Danny romand different than kem Bosa's I

1270
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: actually thought he did try to go for at times. Yeah,

1271
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: but Fulton was just way too good.

1272
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: He made a very good, sometimes great fighter and Danny Roman,

1273
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: a former unified champion just two years ago. He made

1274
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: him look average.

1275
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean I hopeless is what I felt, well and.

1276
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: Was the betting favorite.

1277
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: You were a little bit higher than I was on

1278
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: the idea that this could be one sided like this.

1279
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: Look, we looked at this saying this could be the

1280
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: fight of the year.

1281
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Why because we saw Fulton and Angela Laoe early last

1282
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: year in a great war for the title. Then we

1283
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: saw him against Figueroa, which was my fight of the year.

1284
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: This was not a fight of the year.

1285
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: This was one sided and he made it look easy,

1286
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: which means he's even better than we thought he was

1287
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: it and you know, we were starting to stay man

1288
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: a couple too many wars in a row. Has he become?

1289
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Is the affility fighter?

1290
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: Is he got? You know?

1291
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: Is he his own worst enemy? No, he's better than

1292
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: we thought he was. And he explained it to me

1293
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: in the post fight interview. Look, do you remember how

1294
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: much Brandon Figuerot went to the body and that was

1295
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: a big part of why that fight was so close.

1296
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Roman could not sniff his body and Fulton did

1297
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: that your body before he smells like what he smells like.

1298
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look his ability to hold that distance by

1299
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: being sharp with the right hand, by having an active jab,

1300
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: and most importantly with the footwork. I mean again, he

1301
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: made Danny Roman look slow and and you know, this

1302
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: was a Danny Romond who a year layof which was

1303
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: the longest of his career. Like, he knew about the

1304
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: reputation against him that he's a late starter. He came

1305
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: out hot and aggressive. But man if Fulton can do

1306
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: that to elite level talent and do that, I mean,

1307
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was easy. He worked his ass off,

1308
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: but to make it look that easy and to not

1309
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: take big damage in return, then he's uh, someone really special.

1310
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: And we talked, you know, could he crack.

1311
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: The pound for pound? This is funny, I asked him,

1312
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, I already been in that. I

1313
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: don't care whose list you're talking about. And you know,

1314
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: it's hard going to be hard to argue with performances

1315
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: like this. He was on he was in the Fight

1316
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: of the Year discussion last year. Now we added this

1317
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: performance on top of it. You know that of course

1318
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: we want to talk about, you know, could next or

1319
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: how soon could we do this four belt against Mr

1320
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: John Achmadalia of the guy who beat Danny Ramon by

1321
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: a split decision two years ago. But do you know

1322
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: that Fulton not only wants that fight next, he wants

1323
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: a new way to move up and he wants to

1324
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: fight him after that. Like this guy, Stephen Fulton Junior,

1325
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: cool boy, Steph Scooter, He's got a million you know names,

1326
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: you can call him dude. He wants the smoke, but

1327
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: like he actually looks to be good enough that that.

1328
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: Don't don't sleep on this guy.

1329
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 3: My only criticism moment is that rat tail I just

1330
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: don't quite understand.

1331
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: But short of that, you know, I'm almost was going

1332
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: to ask him about it during the interview.

1333
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: I didn't want to get in trouble or whatever.

1334
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: Maybe you know think I'm going in a weird direction,

1335
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: but uh, it's a badass move. It's you know, who

1336
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: can pull off the very last Matista pulled it off Matisi.

1337
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: But when we were kids in the nineteen eighties, kids

1338
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: had that all the time. Yeah, there were lots of

1339
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: kids of rattails.

1340
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of a Hector Camacho type

1341
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: thing to have that to get the curly.

1342
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but let me say this. Granted, different sport, but

1343
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: we started today's conversation talking about whether Rosenstruk has in

1344
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: the UFC has different ways to win. Obviously boxing is different,

1345
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: but this is what I wanted to make. The reason

1346
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: why I was a little higher on Fulton Junior than

1347
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: you were heading into this file that we both had

1348
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: the same pick was that I did not think Roman

1349
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: could do what Figueroa did in terms of making the

1350
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 3: fight just as fucking brawl. And if Figueroa can't beat

1351
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: Fulton at Figaroa's style of fighting, I didn't think Roman

1352
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: had much of a chance, and that's exactly how it

1353
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: played out. Yes, dude, Fulton can fight you anywhere, any style,

1354
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: any stance. Boots gets all the credit from Philly for

1355
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: being this like genius, but I'll say this, I don't

1356
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: know if Fulton is the genius that that Boots is.

1357
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: Maybe he might be, by the way, I'm just saying,

1358
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'll I know this for sure,

1359
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: he is either at on par or pretty close to

1360
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: it and battle tested against guys who are proven champions.

1361
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: Fulton Junior can win any numb of different ways against

1362
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: any number of different fighters. That is scary.

1363
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: This was this was a statement performance, so it wasn't

1364
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: just the ability to limit what Roman's doing. And Roman

1365
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: tried everything, like he tried to go to the body,

1366
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: he tried to be a one punch counterpuncher, he tried

1367
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: to get off of this jet. None of it would work.

1368
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: Did you notice though? In the seventh round, Roman finally

1369
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: got inside for a little bit. So for like a

1370
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: minute a half, You're like, Okay, I'm gonna give this

1371
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: round to Roman. He's oh wow, we're gonna We're finally

1372
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna see this action fight we were promised. Dude, Fulton

1373
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: switches to south paw and could fractions him with the

1374
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: left hand. Just absolutely look at these guys up here, Luke, look.

1375
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 3: At this dude, you look so red on national Tell.

1376
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because my skin is the color of red lobster.

1377
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: But that's you know, that's great.

1378
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: But uh uh, you know, dude, I did. I did

1379
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: pull off that tweet there, no, no.

1380
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: You look good. And the questions were great, you pulled

1381
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: it off quite smooth. I just thought I was like,

1382
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: is he going to burst into a strawberry here in

1383
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: a minute, Like, well, wow, the kool aid man lost,

1384
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: wait and put on a suit and now he's interviewing

1385
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 3: fighters next to my wife a picture.

1386
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, your husband looks good. She's like,

1387
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: you look like you're you're going to be a busboy

1388
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: at the local country club or something. I was like,

1389
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm like, like Luke Thomas, even I can't.

1390
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: Win at it, Yes you can't.

1391
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 2: Well, who can win?

1392
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: Is Fulton home more Away? But you know his ability

1393
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: to do that. And then he tried to get the

1394
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: finish and in round eleven he started coming on and

1395
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: walking him down. I don't know what else you could

1396
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: have asked for. It's gonna be tough that no one

1397
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: finishes Daniel Ramon, but nobody beats up Daniel Roman like good.

1398
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: So the only question I have about this is not

1399
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: how good he is? He is insanely good. How literally doable?

1400
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: Is the Akmedalia fight? For folks who don't know merge On,

1401
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: Akmadalia is a fucking hammer as well. I saw his

1402
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: spot you can catch it on YouTube against Daniel Ramon

1403
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 3: over on his own.

1404
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: That was another fight of the air contentder.

1405
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: That fight akmadaliaf can fight his ass off.

1406
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: What do you think I think Fulton will be favored.

1407
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I think Fulton is more so how doable? That's the

1408
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: key question is can you make this fight?

1409
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: Currently?

1410
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: Akmadalia fights on on his own. He's got a fight

1411
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: coming up against Ronnie Rios, which is a decent defense

1412
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: of his titles. But Luke, if you're gonna have a

1413
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: chance at undisputed, this fight's not gonna be big enough

1414
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: for a pay per view or a two network.

1415
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: It's not.

1416
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: It's not possible. Can they work out a deal for

1417
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: him to fight on this network? And you know, given

1418
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: the four well, I think it's possible. And talking to

1419
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: Steven Espinoza, like you and I have, you know, on

1420
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: camera or whatever, he has never backed a way when

1421
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: it's brought up of the idea of making this happen. Showtime,

1422
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: as we know, has made a giant commitment to this

1423
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: division and it's worked out and we've got player players.

1424
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: But to have an underspeted champion, you're gonna need MJ

1425
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: as they call him, machmadalie'. So I have confidence that

1426
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: they can make it.

1427
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: Now would that be next?

1428
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

1429
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how quickly.

1430
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's going to work.

1431
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: But conversations are going to have to be made, and

1432
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: to have this run and this chance at history, I

1433
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: think it would be working.

1434
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: I think just a year ago I thought acmcadalia was

1435
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: unbeatable in this division, and now I'm like, no, he's beatable.

1436
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll lose.

1437
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a machine. He can he can box,

1438
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: but he's just forward pressure. He's coming after you.

1439
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Uzbekistan. Yeah yeah, well, well that area they

1440
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: produced the hammers. They produced the hammers, all right, BC

1441
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: Topic number five will end with this in the entirety

1442
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: of the Combat Sports Weekend. So that could be boxing,

1443
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: could be UFC, could be whatever you saw who impressed

1444
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: you other than the names we've talked about.

1445
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a surprise given my love

1446
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: for the one hundred and fifteen pound.

1447
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: Division in the uf on Instagram or just in general and.

1448
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: In the women's side of things.

1449
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Seriously, Carolina Kolevokeyevitch, I don't want to win a job

1450
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: saving win against a now retiring Felice Harrigan their rematch

1451
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: from their twenty eighteen split decision. But Luke, you talking

1452
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: about a feel good moment that was feel great to

1453
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: see the emotion on her because basically here's where Carolina

1454
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: was at. She was losing against good names, but then

1455
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: they were starting to add up, and then suddenly you're

1456
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: on a five fight, losing streak your a name.

1457
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: Her performances before the sung work just life and.

1458
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: In all five were It started with that brutal knockout

1459
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: law she had against Androge with the left hug, where

1460
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: you were just like, oh wow. But what she started

1461
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: to realize was she believed there was more stuff left

1462
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: in her at thirty six. She believed that she was

1463
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: better than she was showing. But she knew she was

1464
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to shake things up. So she was the

1465
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: one who made the call to Yoanna Young Jake Check,

1466
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: her former foe.

1467
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: And was like, how do I get into Att?

1468
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: I need to get into this because previously she'd been

1469
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: training with her husband and her sort of you know,

1470
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: more of a local team and stet up not at

1471
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Super Jim, but she left her animals, her husband and

1472
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: went to Florida, got into Att s barring with you

1473
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: wanna regularly. She basically went all in on what's left

1474
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: of her and I'm not going to act like beating

1475
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: sending Harrigan to retirement. Me, she's ready for a title

1476
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: shot tomorrow. But there's a difference between being ready for

1477
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: a title shot and where we go. You know, sorry,

1478
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: you gotta go. And if she had lost six in

1479
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: a row, you gotta go for her to do that

1480
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: and show you, Luke that like there's something still there.

1481
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there was the mean streak that they were

1482
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: talking about in the broadcast team. They were hammering that home.

1483
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: But like I also liked heavy straight strikes on the ground.

1484
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: She was so aggressive. You saw her twice go after

1485
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: the submission and eventually getting it to see somebody kind

1486
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: of lose it all before your eyes, but then not

1487
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: end up in BKFC and actually put it all back

1488
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: together to kind of see what's left.

1489
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: Like it's inspiring at the end of the day.

1490
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: I think we lose it often in the sport. We

1491
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: talk about skills, how good is their job, and footwork

1492
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: and cardio and all this kind of stuff, but really

1493
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: what binds it all together is confidence. What kind of

1494
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: competitive confidence does this person do they really believe And

1495
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: when you get knocked out and stopped and choked and beaten,

1496
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: do you really believe you can beat other people anymore,

1497
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: other elite fighters. Do you really believe you can do that? Like,

1498
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: it's a very important question. If you don't believe, it

1499
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what skills you can produce in the training room,

1500
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: it all goes away on those nights. And for a while,

1501
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: it really did for her to salvage this in the

1502
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: way that she did and get the finish on top.

1503
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: It was like she eked out some like, ah, you

1504
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: can kind of give her the nod. No, no, no,

1505
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: she she finished her opponent. That was big. And I

1506
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: have to say, you know, certainly, I'm you know, I

1507
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: don't think you want any Dijake and our best friends,

1508
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 3: but I will really tip my hat. What a knob

1509
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: that is, what a teammate. You have to be selfless

1510
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 3: in the way that she was to bring over kobl Keevich.

1511
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 3: And you know, look when sometimes in life, sometimes there's

1512
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: no other way to get where you want to go

1513
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: except for someone giving you a hand. You need someone

1514
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: to pull you up off the floor. He cannot get

1515
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: off by your off the canvas by yourself. Dude, you

1516
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: want to j chick did that. She gave her a

1517
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: hand to pull her out of this. I don't know

1518
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 3: what you want to call it, this terrible place.

1519
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: She's similar to me pulling you out of bucks, and I.

1520
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: Don't think that's the right analogy. I would actually look

1521
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: at it the other way. But the point I'm trying

1522
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: to make here is we see in all sincerity, don't

1523
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: you really I kind of appreciate that.

1524
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all.

1525
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: Really, that's a genuine that's not a competitor thing. That's

1526
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: a human thing.

1527
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: It is, and I'm not And I don't know you

1528
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: want as much as we play up this whole thing,

1529
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: but like to see her being called a bully in

1530
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: the first roast fight, to get the humility of losing

1531
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: her title by knockout, then losing the rematch, and then

1532
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: you know she's come around and her and Rose are

1533
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: like this now they've trained together a few times, so

1534
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: not to see you want to give the same you know,

1535
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: edge to a former foe. And they had a you know,

1536
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: a very very good title fight that Carolina fought well in.

1537
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: But they're they are country women at the same time,

1538
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: So to see that, I just, you know, you'd like

1539
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: to see somebody figure it out. And that was a

1540
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: good moment for Carolina. I don't know where she can

1541
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: go with this, how far she can take it, But

1542
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: you did get the feeling looke that this wasn't just

1543
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: a fielded story, but that there's something in the tank, right.

1544
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, title shot. I don't I don't know what that means,

1545
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: but yes, Like, do I think that police Harrig is

1546
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: the only one fifteen that she can beat based on

1547
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: the way she looked? No, I think she could probably

1548
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: get some other good wins. Now, it's a tough division,

1549
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: so you know, could her next might be a bad loss?

1550
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: That yes, and that wouldn't even be some kind of indictment.

1551
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: It could just be that's because you fight enough of

1552
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: these top one fifteen ers, bad shit happens.

1553
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: But she's no longer just following her opponent around, that's right,

1554
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: you know. Then that's that's a big key right there.

1555
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: Quickly on harrog though, because.

1556
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: Pop Quiz I called her pro debut.

1557
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: So how you tweet that? And I was like, what

1558
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: what was the situation for?

1559
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: So she was she was she had done kickboxing, so

1560
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: I didn't that she had had a decorated career in

1561
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 3: kickboxing prior to that. So this was her MMA debut.

1562
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 3: And I think it was like two seven, two thousand

1563
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 3: and seven or eight or nine. I was calling fights

1564
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: for an organization called the UWCAS basically in the campus

1565
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: of George Mason was the then Patriots that are now

1566
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: Eagle Bank Arena. And she fought I forget oh, she

1567
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 3: fought a girl who was like it was funny. Harrig

1568
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: was brought in as like something of the beast to

1569
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 3: the local angle. This woman had been homeless and was

1570
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: living in the tent and blah blah blah. And by

1571
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: the way, they're just doing construction here behind us. I

1572
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck is that we get a

1573
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: shot of these guys and the like, hey, let's just

1574
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: let's just get ladders out in the middle of these

1575
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 3: motherfucker's points all anyway, I was just trying to point

1576
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: out that I called her pro debut at MMA, which

1577
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: tells you I'm an old piece of shit. That was

1578
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: obvious promotion.

1579
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: Did you say the promotions?

1580
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 3: Then it's called u W Ultimate Warrior Challenge. I think

1581
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 3: someone bought the rights to it because the guy who

1582
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: was running it passed away. But James Helwig, the Ultimate

1583
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: Warrior was he running? That was his name? James Helwig

1584
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: who shook the Road. Yeah, it was.

1585
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, it's weird for Lisa's not like

1586
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, she's kind of a pioneer. I wouldn't call

1587
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: her a legend, but she's been notable for a while.

1588
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, she's always been a tough out and she

1589
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: was in a phenomenal condition for this fun and to

1590
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: hear her own SOB story in a good way. I

1591
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: say SOB because you know it was emotional of coming

1592
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: back from two ACL surgeries and being like, no, I

1593
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: want to end my career on my own terms, knowing

1594
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: I gave my best effort. She came in in the

1595
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: shape that showed you she was going to give the

1596
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: best of what's left, and she fought scrappy and hard,

1597
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: and I mean she fought off that first submission.

1598
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: It was like a life or death.

1599
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, not everyone's gonna be champion, not

1600
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: everyone's going to be in title fights, not everyone's gonna

1601
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: be in pay per view.

1602
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: But she fought everybody from that era.

1603
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: That's right. But I believe please Harrig fought very tough competition,

1604
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: had a lot of success, and had a very commendable career,

1605
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: and she should be quite proud of herself.

1606
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: By the way, we forget sometimes that Carolina once beat

1607
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: Rose in a number one time fight.

1608
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 3: That's a great win. Yeah, I don't know if those

1609
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: days are coming back now. I think that has probably passed,

1610
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: but that she could recapture some potential lost glory for sure.

1611
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 3: To answer the question about who else impressed you, Jeff

1612
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 3: Molina impressed me a little bit. Had a good win

1613
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: over the guy's zooma Google. I can ever pronounce his

1614
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 3: last name. That was pretty important. But did you see

1615
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: he wore? The reason I shot him out was one.

1616
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: Do you see the tattoo of Columbia on his back?

1617
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see the Columbian test.

1618
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 3: It's a little hard. It's a little hard to see

1619
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: because it's the shape of Columbia. Most people don't know

1620
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: what the shape looks like.

1621
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: We're seeing the tats on the big screen here.

1622
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on his back, on his left shoulder.

1623
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: If anyone can pull it out, it's gaff he pulls

1624
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: it out anywhere.

1625
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: With him or Phil. It's on his back, left shoulder.

1626
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to make is it was

1627
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: hard to see because if you look at the Columbian flag.

1628
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: It's got three colors, but they're not even Yeah right there, yes,

1629
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: right there, but you can see he's got mostly blue there.

1630
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 3: But the reality is the Colombian flag is mostly yellow,

1631
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: so it's a little hard to see. But in any case,

1632
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: he wore Pride colors, which is like, if they want

1633
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: to wear them and they don't want to wear them,

1634
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter me, like you live your life. But

1635
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, I'm gonna wear the Pride colors.

1636
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: And then he had all of these fucking troglodytes and

1637
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: his mentions tearing him up. So then at the post

1638
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 3: fight press conference, shouts to Jeff Molina took them all

1639
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: to task. Well, the only thing I would say, it's

1640
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: to Jeff is Jeff, phenomenal win. You're a great guy.

1641
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: But welcome to MMA. This is this is kind of

1642
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: what it is, bro. And by the way, I saw

1643
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:40,959
Speaker 3: a lot of people being like, oh, it's the MMA

1644
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: fans are so terrible. Well, listen, I've interacted with a

1645
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: lot of MMA fans in person and they've never been

1646
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: that way. So a couple of caveats. One, it's certainly

1647
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: not all of them. Two it's mostly just the online

1648
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: brand of them. And three, I'll say this BC, it

1649
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 3: ain't just the fans. It ain't just the fans, it's

1650
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: the it's the fighter sometimes the meat. Yeah, sometimes the promoters.

1651
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: Not all to the same extent. Everyone's got a different

1652
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: kind of responsibility there, and you know, and not everyone

1653
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: is that way. But like to just say, oh, all

1654
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: the toxic ideas in MMA come from a certain subset

1655
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: of the online culture. From the fan side, it's accurate,

1656
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: but it's in a sense that they're guilty of that.

1657
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: But they're not the only ones.

1658
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: We should be very very clear about that study where

1659
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: they checked the supporting backgrounds of all the jan sixers

1660
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: that run up the steps and like sixty eight percent

1661
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: had done mm A training. Just make that up.

1662
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I believe it. I know you're gonna

1663
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: believe it. I believe it.

1664
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: But in any case, for some reason, they all stopped

1665
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: after getting their white belt.

1666
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 3: There's yeah, yeah, what happens, but shats definitely in a

1667
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: solid win. And you know, it takes a lot of

1668
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: courage to uh, you know, go against yes, the fervor

1669
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: sometimes of the online communities be whoever they what do

1670
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: you think these motherfuckers are just playing charades back here

1671
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: and dragons? It's great, you know, just you know, fucking

1672
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: off on the job, leaving ladders around, and these the

1673
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: hardy boys they about to have the tables what is

1674
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: it called tables, ladders and chairs? About to have one

1675
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: of these TLC matches. I heard these motherfuckers Jesus Price.

1676
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: All right, that's it for the Top five.

1677
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, here you go.

1678
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: There for more on MMA. Can they watch extra credit?

1679
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do it tomorrow morning.

1680
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't have time to do it today because you know,

1681
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be like, Luke, how

1682
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: could you talk about this weekend and not talk about

1683
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: which fight night?

1684
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm going to get to bow Nickel on

1685
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 3: the extra credit and I'm gonna talk about busheha and

1686
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: some other stuff as well. So extra credit is going

1687
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: to come. Uh okay, But that's it for our Top

1688
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 3: five PC. It is time for us to no longer

1689
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: answer each other's questions. Well, we'll probably do that too.

1690
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 3: It's time for us to answer y'all's It's d MS

1691
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: from the Diggity Dolls. Yes we've got mail, all right

1692
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: from punch drunk piece.

1693
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh shout out to you know, the darling of the

1694
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: YouTube message board Nicola Nicola, Oh you mean the comments. Yeah, yes,

1695
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: she's from the UK or Scotland.

1696
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 3: Or the Wales, one of the Scotland's in the UK

1697
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 3: A tokay of those.

1698
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: She wasn't doing well, but then we shouted her out

1699
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: and she had some health setbacks and she's on the comeback.

1700
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: So well done, MK viewers.

1701
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna get back. And also if anyone knows

1702
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,959
Speaker 3: about health stetbacks, it's these two washed pieces and shit talking.

1703
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 1: So much love to our very few female viewers.

1704
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Here's some more producers is walking around with headstets. Who

1705
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 3: they're talking to? I don't know me?

1706
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: Come real quick, good model. This is the best piece

1707
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1709
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1710
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Speaker 3: It's great, honey, super comfortable.

1711
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the logo is nice and it's nice too because

1712
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: if you throw a jacket over you can cover the

1713
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: MK logo and it's just like you.

1714
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's great, that's great. They're ashamed of associations

1715
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: like this one. All right from Punch Drunk Pete BC.

1716
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 3: What are the top five biggest fights you could make

1717
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: in boxing right now? And where would a Tank Davis

1718
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 3: versus Ryan Garcia fights rank on that list?

1719
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 2: I think that is on that list.

1720
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: So we're talking about largely commercial but also like meaning

1721
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: at the same time.

1722
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think big, I mean sales, big important fight.

1723
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: What I think the biggest fight you can make in

1724
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: the sport are I still think if aj B two

1725
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: is sick, then aj versus Fury in an English soccer

1726
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: stadium for all heavyweight championship is the biggest you can

1727
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: make right now?

1728
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 2: Two Spence versus Crawford for the welter way.

1729
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, my Coppentery VSPN reporting over the

1730
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: weekend that they're almost almost that they're.

1731
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: In discussions for October. No announcement of the network or

1732
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 1: anything like that, but crossed that'd be amazing and I

1733
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: don't you know there could you create matchups that could

1734
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: potentially outsell that maybe, but that's huge. Canalo versus somebody

1735
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: who should somebody be? Is it Canelo versus Benavitas? That

1736
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: would make this list?

1737
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 3: And you're at No. That wouldn't be the biggest Canelo

1738
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 3: versuspense G.

1739
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: You're right, Canelo Triple G three is going to get

1740
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. Who knows, it could be a

1741
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: great fight. But after that, I think it's after that

1742
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: would would you say it's it's potentially really the the

1743
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: these big name lightweights right now? I mean Boot, you know,

1744
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: Boots versus Keith Thurman, Boots versus the winner of Spence,

1745
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: you know all that, Yes, but right now, in terms

1746
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: of like I mean, if you can make right now,

1747
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: I think Gervanta Davis versus Ryan Garcia probably would get

1748
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,839
Speaker 1: the most eyeballs on it, given their social media backgrounds,

1749
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: given that it's a pretty much a guarantee somebody's gonna

1750
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: get knocked out. Yes, but look at this division, Haney

1751
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: with all four belts, Lomachenko the former champion who's still

1752
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: had very high form, Dravante, the big money maker of

1753
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: the group, uh Tayo Fimo is trying to go to

1754
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: one forty but still around in lingering. There are some

1755
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: combinations within that as well that I think do just

1756
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 1: as good, if not better. I mean, if tomorrow Dravante

1757
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: was fighting Lomachenko, belts or not that might that might

1758
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: outsell all those because you're fighting the former pump for

1759
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: punk king, right, Yes, so any combination of those I

1760
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: think are in this. What are we missing though?

1761
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 3: What else? So let me ask you this. When we

1762
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 3: say biggest sales, I also count the gate. Yes, if

1763
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: you did it in Ireland? How big is Taylor Serrano? Two? Yeah?

1764
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I think that that's in discussion for this.

1765
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: For that, I don't know if it's top five, but

1766
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: it fills top five, I mean it would be.

1767
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: It would feel even bigger there. And that's saying a

1768
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: lot because it was like if.

1769
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: They put that in it was just a medicine square garden.

1770
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 3: They took that with the broken park like that would do.

1771
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: And also like European viewership would probably be very high

1772
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: for that. That's a big one. Yeah.

1773
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: Who am I missing here?

1774
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: Jake Paul, serious question, Jake Paul Anderson Silva. How big

1775
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 3: is that? I think it's like a little he hate

1776
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: to admit how big that is is? Probably no?

1777
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: No, what's the ceiling for pay per view buys on

1778
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: that in this era? Six hundred thousand?

1779
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, four four to five I think five.

1780
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's that's the level.

1781
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: I think it is too.

1782
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that's not small. I'm not saying that

1783
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: that's not significant.

1784
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: It is.

1785
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: I think it would beat Jake's other recent ones, right.

1786
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Woodley ones did. I couldn't

1787
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: tell you, all right, even though it worked for show

1788
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: time sometimes I don't know.

1789
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: But the answer that guy punched drunk Pete is a

1790
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: real MK fan and is boxing too?

1791
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right? From tv GC MMA, does Bill Haney

1792
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: this is the father of Devon. Relaxed support of allowing

1793
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 3: and pushing Devon to train with different coaches his whole career.

1794
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: Show what Tayl lacks mentally with his dad and coach relationship.

1795
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 3: First of all, we got two boxing questions off the

1796
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: top our MMA fans are losing their fucking minds right now.

1797
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 3: But what do you think to some degree?

1798
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: Yes, now, you know Tayo in that initial rise when

1799
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: he became champion, did have Joey gamac A, who's a

1800
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: trainer trains Auto Vailin in the corner. But then he

1801
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: suddenly wasn't there when he lost to cambosis. And and

1802
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: you know, is explained a way that Taylor was running

1803
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: out of money. So they had to keep dead. But

1804
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: in general, has Bill Handy gone out of his way

1805
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: to expose Devin to so many different things from turning

1806
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: pro in bars in Tijuana. Yes, they have Yoel Judah,

1807
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: the father of ab Judah and trainer as the second

1808
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: chief second.

1809
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: There has been a lot of exposure.

1810
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: Throughout the year.

1811
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, Bill Hanes is a smart guy, and

1812
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: it was it was obviously the kind of feel good

1813
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: to see him arriving at the airport and son and

1814
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: father reunited. And I know sometimes you can turn people

1815
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: off because he's you know, trainer and manager and sometimes

1816
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: the mouthpiece for Devan, but uh, he knows what he's doing.

1817
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: And I find that boxing dads there's not that stability

1818
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 2: with tail and no.

1819
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 3: No, I find that boxing dads are much better at

1820
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: the early stage, early to middle stages of the career.

1821
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 3: It's when they get into trouble late Yeah, that's when

1822
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,919
Speaker 3: the dad connection becomes questionable.

1823
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's been some talk. I don't know

1824
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: if it's true, but like you know.

1825
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: Did Sean Porter and his dad in the corner have

1826
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: a very rough relationship down to stretch and did that

1827
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: retirement have anything to do with it. I mean, we've

1828
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: got Sean about it and he says no, and I'm

1829
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 1: not saying I don't believe him, but like it's always

1830
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: ify when the sun becomes a star, and then at

1831
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: some point the dad feels like he's losing the control

1832
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: he once had or what have you, or the credit

1833
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: at times, you know, I mean, I mean, I don't

1834
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: know if you remember for the third Tarford fight when

1835
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: Roy Jones brought his dad back into the corner.

1836
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't want that way.

1837
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: Not only did it go disastrouslessly, but Roy would say

1838
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: in an honest moment afterwards that he didn't want to

1839
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: win and he purposely stopped trying to win because he

1840
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: didn't want his dad to get the credit because he

1841
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: knew his dad would take it and steal it from

1842
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: That's some ft up. Yeah, like you know Hallmark movie Star.

1843
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 3: I don't think my dad even Yeah, all right.

1844
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you in Vegas on TV tonight, I

1845
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: need you run an errand I need you to check

1846
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: that property for me.

1847
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 3: They haven't paid. That's literally true. I told my dad

1848
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: I was in Vegas for work. When we were there

1849
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 3: for Canelo, he asked me to do errands. For him

1850
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 3: for like real estate he wanted to do.

1851
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: You could really get his attention if you go fucking

1852
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: demand that money from those people.

1853
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 3: Are amazing, all right from at dog dot Stone, that's

1854
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 3: a better question, all right. In the early days of MMA,

1855
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 3: were there any martial arts you guys were bummed to

1856
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 3: don't have my fucking glasses bum to discover weren't effective

1857
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 3: in combat? And are there any martial arts you wish

1858
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 3: could somehow be effective just with the entertainment value they

1859
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 3: would bring to a fight. I will say this, the

1860
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 3: early UFCS would have guys and they looked you know,

1861
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 3: if you if you didn't know their like martial arts affiliation.

1862
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking like you know UFC single digits here,

1863
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 3: so like you know two three, four five, that kind

1864
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: of thing where there were guys who were like, oh,

1865
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: this is uh Joe Son. Yeah, no, no, no, no,

1866
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 3: Like this is like Terry Smith and he's some fucking

1867
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 3: redneck from Manitoba and he was like his style was nijitsu.

1868
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 3: And because you know, the only thing you know is

1869
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 3: like a little let's seen ninety ninety four, ninety three,

1870
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 3: I was thirteen or fourteen, I don't know, you know

1871
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: one knew shit about niujitsu other than what you saw.

1872
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: In the movie that was the Joe Sun situation.

1873
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: He wasn't ninjitsu, no he was.

1874
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: He was Josondo. He named after what I'm saying.

1875
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 3: Like I had watched as I can't overstate this, all

1876
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 3: the martial arts movies in the eighties all featured ninjas.

1877
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 3: Ninja's were like the thing, right, teenage mutant ninja throws

1878
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: the whole thing. So you're like, oh, wow, I guess

1879
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: ninja's looked like rednecks down at the pool hall. But okay,

1880
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: you're talking about Harold Howard is No, he was ninjitsu

1881
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 3: something else.

1882
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: But I remember fighting a wife Peter.

1883
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: He did fighting a wife Peter. But I remember Pat

1884
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 3: Smith bought this guy who looked like some kind of

1885
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: you know, January sixth er and who claimed to be

1886
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 3: niu jitsu, and Pat Smith mounted him, but you know,

1887
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: like in the early days where you kind of found

1888
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 3: it accidentally, but then hammered him into unconsciousness with his elbows.

1889
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: Sure he got like an extra four shots before it's

1890
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: broken up too, And I.

1891
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, yeah, big time. Macarthy's just watching and

1892
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 3: being like wow, I guess I'm gonna witness the death

1893
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: because this was before the rules were what they were.

1894
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: Well, they tried to sell UFCS face as a death

1895
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: for a while, and I.

1896
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 3: Remember thinking watching now, I was like, wow, dude, ninjas

1897
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: ain't shit. This is so disappointing. Yeah, I was really hurt.

1898
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: It took karate a while, every kid took karate and

1899
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: no to find its footing as a legit lead art

1900
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: in mixed martial arts.

1901
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 3: Correct, you know, yes, actually was an early pioneer that

1902
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: no one ever talks about. His name was Jeff Newton.

1903
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: He actually fought in the UFC a couple of times.

1904
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 3: He did a lot of karate and this was like

1905
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: in the UFC like forties and fifties something like that.

1906
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: He actually brought in karate early, which just never got

1907
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 3: really good with it. It wasn't until like the Machida

1908
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 3: guys came through Wonder Boy, Wonder Boy where you were like, oh, wow,

1909
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 3: these guys can actually do something with karate.

1910
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: And you know, Judo's had up and up and down moments.

1911
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: You just had a mixed mixed uh you.

1912
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, has anyone have better highlights than kiro

1913
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: Parisian's first three UFC fights in terms of just taking

1914
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: people by like the Adams Apple and dragging them right

1915
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: front down.

1916
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were pretty incredible to you.

1917
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: But there are other gold medalists who didn't. Like hide.

1918
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 3: Hiko Yoshida was the gold medals of the ninety two

1919
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 3: Games and Pride. He had some great moments, but you

1920
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 3: know a lot of that was weird matchmaking. Makoto Takimoto

1921
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 3: was another gold medalist.

1922
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: Do you like that they're called players title players, They're

1923
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: not called juitle players.

1924
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 3: You can call them that as well. Well, no, that's

1925
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: what you call jiu jitsu guys. You can call them

1926
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: ju jittaro's, but they're really jiu jitsu players.

1927
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: It's just it's something, there's something off about that.

1928
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Speaker 3: It just you don't play boxing. You can play jiu jitsu,

1929
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: all right. From n Y fly ninety one, does the

1930
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: UFC having a forty two year old champion Glover to show,

1931
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 3: I mean just assaulting them already mean that they don't

1932
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 3: have the best two of fivers in the world or BC?

1933
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: Is he actually that good even at his age? How

1934
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: would he do against the two of five champs in

1935
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: other MMA promotions? So the other ones would be Well,

1936
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: I guess that's a little bit disputed off Cory Anderson. Well,

1937
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: obviously he fought Corey and Corey beat him. Perhaps things

1938
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: would be different another go round. Memkov did not have

1939
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: a great showing against Anderson, but I.

1940
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,799
Speaker 2: Think I would beat him. I thought it was no contest.

1941
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: Were talking about, no, no, Corey Anderson lighting Glover. Okay,

1942
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is, would you favor nim Kov to

1943
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 3: beat Glover? I'm light, I'm light. Yeah, I mean.

1944
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: Obviously it comes down to style matchups and all of that.

1945
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: You know, Glover's in that fight and may have.

1946
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 3: You know what, you know what if Anderson takes him down,

1947
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: Glover's ground game is phenomenal, Glover could be him.

1948
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: In some ways, this is a perfect Cinderella story and

1949
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: it's getting that rightful attention. You know, the second oldest

1950
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: champion ever. But in other ways, he never stopped being

1951
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: really good Glover. He just you know, had a many

1952
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: peaks and valleys in the in the in the in

1953
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: the area between post John Jones and now Luke. There

1954
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: hasn't been a disastrous standpoint. There was there was there

1955
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: was that one specific one where you're like is he

1956
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: on the way out? I mean that he got knocked

1957
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: out by Rumble. I mean Rumble sent him to the

1958
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: bottom of.

1959
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 3: The earth, Luke. Yeah, and then his teeth went flying. Yeah.

1960
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: So but you know he damn I got a lot

1961
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: of respect for Glover, and not just because he said

1962
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 1: he christened that couch.

1963
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: Over here that couch.

1964
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, by the way, people have suggested that moving forward,

1965
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: im room service diaries to keep you off of that

1966
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: really tall chair.

1967
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: I like the chair more than that fucking couch. That

1968
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: couch is like the couch from get what's it called

1969
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: get Out? Where you just fall into the sunken place.

1970
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: What about the loose spring on that chair though? That

1971
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: gives you a little how at your father if you sit.

1972
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 3: On it wrong. Yeah, that is uncomfortable. I mean the

1973
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 3: whole sets of.

1974
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: Disass on prostate exam, Luke, every third time you sit.

1975
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like we're going to host a podcast lash

1976
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 3: colon oscopy here today. It's gonna be great.

1977
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: Any more of this bullshit.

1978
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: The point I'm saying about Glover is, you know, someone

1979
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 3: asked me this would twenty fifteen DC twenty fifteen John Jones,

1980
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 3: would they beat twenty twenty two Glover to share it. Yes,

1981
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 3: they would, wouldn't they? Yeah, Okay, here's a better one.

1982
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 3: Would twenty fifteen. I know they already fought back to

1983
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen Vtur would beat them. Maybe maybe, But I'll

1984
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: say this, and I know they already fought and that

1985
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: this guy won, But I'm asking it in a new way.

1986
01:19:54,200 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 3: Does twenty fifteen Alexander Gustafson beat twenty twenty two Glover

1987
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: to share? So the the gust of sen that because

1988
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 3: he wasn't going back to his wrestling at that time.

1989
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: That fought coormeated five beautiful rounds.

1990
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: Well again, Gustuson already beat Glover over the course of.

1991
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: Four round but people don't talk about that fight enough.

1992
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 3: Here's my point. I Glover has gone back to his

1993
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: wrestling in his jiu jitsu in a way that he

1994
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 3: didn't quite as much back then, and it has I

1995
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 3: think it's elevated his profession.

1996
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: I think he still favored twenty fifteen gust of him.

1997
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: But dude, why don't you ever talk about how great

1998
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: that gust is in DC fights, One of.

1999
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 3: The best, one of the best life Haavaway fights ever.

2000
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember and to find out how little

2001
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: d C was paid for it, and like, I mean,

2002
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 1: he put his life on the line for the ship, wasn't.

2003
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 3: And that need that Gustuson hit him with came that

2004
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 3: fucking close.

2005
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: D's battle tested a ship. I love that man, you know, seriously,

2006
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: like super battle test. And he's a great investor, whether

2007
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: you like is announcing or not.

2008
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: Like he's a great embass I like his commentary. I

2009
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: don't like the fact that he kind of stumps for

2010
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 3: UFC pay he carries their water, Yeah, a little bit,

2011
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: but I mean certainly as a competitor, it's impossible, Tony.

2012
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you have to carry

2013
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: some water for your bosses.

2014
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: I mean we do it.

2015
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: I mean I'm drinking water out of the sea, you know,

2016
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: name the water this CBS water bottle right here. Okay,

2017
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: that's what I'm drink it. I'll carry it for him.

2018
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: You know. All right? Last question from cha underscore Vita

2019
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: worst name ever? All right, see very simple your favorite

2020
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: movie soundtrack. I know exactly the answer to this one,

2021
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: all right.

2022
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: I saw Forrest Gump first night, first showing, and then

2023
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: walked into the wall about that bought the soundtrack. That's

2024
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: an incredible soundtrack just because of the total volume, you know,

2025
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: really aimed at that late sixties rock.

2026
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 3: Do you know the Forest Comes?

2027
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: It's fantastic, Luke Yep. I've always had a favorite two

2028
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: of them on the on the rock side. One of

2029
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: my favorite movies, probably my second or first is now

2030
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: Beautiful Girls from nineteen ninety six. You know that that

2031
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: Buddy movie high school reunion movie.

2032
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: You know, No, I don't watch bullshit.

2033
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: Timothy Hutton. You don't know that movie, Matt Dyllan. It's

2034
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: an incredible movie. I can't believe you've never seen that.

2035
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you've never seen any movie by Koris Sawis.

2036
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, that's got a really good one. The other one,

2037
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: Luke is in the hip hop world. I know other

2038
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: people say of the Rim, but Juice is the soundtrack.

2039
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: Okay, both of those, Both of those are the wrong answer.

2040
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 1: No, Juice is a phenomenal soundtrack, Dude, that is really

2041
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: really good.

2042
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 3: Okay. The answer is Judgment Knight, the Judgment Night's soundtrack.

2043
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 3: They took what movie is Judgment in nineteen ninety three, Dude,

2044
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 3: I saw that in the theater.

2045
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: That's Jeremy Pivens, Yes, And who's the bad guy in it?

2046
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 3: I think Ice he was in the movie briefly. Yeah,

2047
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 3: it's mis Larry the Bag. This is nineteen ninety three.

2048
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 3: You understand that at this time this is extremely can

2049
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: I fucking finished? This is extremely experimental? This listen to

2050
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 3: these songs? Just another victim? Who did it? House of

2051
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 3: Pain with Helmet track two, dal La Soul and Teenage

2052
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: Fan Club Run DMC with Living Color, Biohazard and Onyx

2053
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 3: Ice Team did a song with Slayer called Disorder Faith

2054
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 3: No More and Dinosaur Junior Sir Mixed a Lot and

2055
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 3: Mud Honey, Cypresshill and Sonic Youth. They took a big

2056
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 3: rock band and a big rap act and they made

2057
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: them do songs together and they put it all on

2058
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 3: the Judgment Night's soundtrack. When this came out in nineteen

2059
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 3: ninety three, this was completely unheard of, and it kind

2060
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: of rald did you know a little bit new metal

2061
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 3: where they would, you know, sort of combine the elements

2062
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 3: of rap and DJing with with like sort of heavy rock.

2063
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 3: But it showed like people always asking why would you

2064
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: make this? But when I was a kid, he has

2065
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: a soundtrack? Are you serious? Judgment You've never heard. The

2066
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 3: Judgment Nights soundtrack is one of the most innovative, interesting

2067
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: soundtracks of all the time.

2068
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: Is one of those fun ones that slipped in the

2069
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: cracks in the nineties that no one talks about anymore.

2070
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: No, But the point I wanted to make was, when

2071
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: you were a kid, if you grew up in the

2072
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 3: eighties and nineties, like we did roughly the same time,

2073
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 3: the coolest motherfuckers you knew were either like the hardcore

2074
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: amazing rap guys or like these awesome metal bands or

2075
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 3: hardcore rock bands, and they before anyone ever did. The

2076
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: Judgment Night. Folks put them together to make a soundtrack,

2077
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 3: and some of the songs hit, some of them myths,

2078
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 3: but it was so experimental, so out there, and a

2079
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: lot of it actually worked. That is your answer. Judgment

2080
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 3: Night nineteen eighty three. Suck a fucking damn, I suck

2081
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 3: a fucking yeah. Yeah, all right, you see the time

2082
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: for your bullshit? Oh how about this pearl jam in

2083
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: side for sell mid a song called real Thing? What else? Yeah,

2084
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: that's it. That's one of the good ones.

2085
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,480
Speaker 1: What I do Luke every Sundays I scoured the globe.

2086
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: For the do you scour the globe? Does that mean

2087
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 3: the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between?

2088
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 2: From combat sports?

2089
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 3: The globe is actually just the physical representation of the Earth.

2090
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 3: When you say the globe, you don't actually mean the

2091
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 3: Earth act. You're saying I just took a map and

2092
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: I turned it just some point that out. Did you

2093
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: eat my balls? Eat my balls?

2094
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 1: Thank you to Jeff Pierre for corraling all this absolute bullshit.

2095
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: It's called have you seen this ship?

2096
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 3: Oh God?

2097
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: Out out, Luke.

2098
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 3: I want to do hammer home.

2099
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: How feel great that Carolina covid Cavich victory was at

2100
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: Carolina carry Yeah, okay, UFC fight night in Vegas, Luke.

2101
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: Let's listen to her response of getting the tap.

2102
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 4: Carolina submits FC finish for Polan's total head chops, five

2103
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 4: straight coming in total.

2104
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not here to clowner. I'm here to say, like,

2105
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: that's some that's let's just wait for that echo. Thank

2106
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: you manage, very well done. Luke's in all seriousness like

2107
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: that's like goosebumps right there. I mean, that's somebody who

2108
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: put everything they had into something kind of like me

2109
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: every show, every single show.

2110
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: I don't think that's you. But yeah, that's an incredible moment.

2111
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 3: That's real, that's real human emotion, and she couldn't contain it.

2112
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Luke, let's watch how far the mouthpiece of Biggie Boy

2113
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: God sent flying by vocal mop Wow. Dude, I think

2114
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: that's actually what made the ref stop it. Herb stop

2115
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: it because he's like, this dude's gonna lose his teeth

2116
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: if I don't jump in.

2117
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: He also is just so wobbly he was. He was

2118
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 3: protesting the stoppage. It was, in my judgment, I'll say

2119
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 3: this a little a little early, but not early in

2120
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 3: the sense of bad, early in the sense of could

2121
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: he have maybe let him get into the land of

2122
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 3: wind and ghosts? He could have, He could have, but

2123
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 3: he did him a favor, like.

2124
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Please, Luke Light heavyweight to Lonzo. Menifield had issues with

2125
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: Ascar Masharov's record. So this one got a little violent

2126
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: and look at the crucifix.

2127
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 3: Did you hear what he said about him? Yeah? Was

2128
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 3: this guy racist or something? Because Menifield was like, I

2129
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 3: just imagined that this guy thinks and this is his words,

2130
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: that I'm a monkey.

2131
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he used that as motivation. I don't

2132
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: know if there's proof that this guy is a racist.

2133
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: But they clearly didn't like each other, and there's a

2134
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: lot of bad things going back and forth. But dude,

2135
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: is it You've once told me it's white belt hit

2136
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: to get crucifix like this.

2137
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 3: In the No, no, no, no, no, it's no there's

2138
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 3: it's a little more complex than that man's chest. Look

2139
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 3: at that did he has fucking yoked. No, it's not

2140
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 3: quite as simple as that, because very good, very good

2141
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 3: grapplers can't get put there. It was a little bit

2142
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 3: more of a nuance about the particular situation.

2143
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a bonus ko luke from Cambach Global as

2144
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: Moses Diaz needed just six seconds to dispose of Carlos Doba.

2145
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: Fon dude, fon Seka. By the way, a great Columbian

2146
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: band like them a lot.

2147
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: Max Bratos on the call here our good friend Max

2148
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Brettos and h. Yeah, that was a nice That was

2149
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: a nice KO shout out combined.

2150
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 3: Jab super wide jab boom, good night. Wow.

2151
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some showtime boxing from Minnie Applis,

2152
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: cool boy Steph showing off the rat tail as I

2153
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: mentioned a bold, a bold fashion choice.

2154
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you bring the rat tail of the boxing ring.

2155
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 3: You get that fake and he draws out the jab

2156
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: and then comes over with the left. He is a

2157
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: fucking genius.

2158
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's pretty damn good.

2159
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 3: He's so clever.

2160
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I like his swagger. I like his I like a

2161
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: big fan, big fan, all right.

2162
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 3: He does give short answers to questions, though, Yeah, I

2163
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: noticed that. I noticed that was the one, not like

2164
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: you did poorly, you did great, but I noticed that

2165
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: there was like a He'd be like, yeah, that was

2166
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 3: the plan, and then they'd be like a, there'd be

2167
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 3: like a two second pause as you like teed up

2168
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: the next one rather than a flow. But short of that,

2169
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: he he was like, you know.

2170
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:00,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know how I was gonna fight was dependent

2171
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: upon how I woke up this morning.

2172
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: As you can see, I woke up fucking great, and

2173
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: I was like good.

2174
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, you did, you did all right, Luke.

2175
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: In the co main event, Cuba's David Morrell Junior, not

2176
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: living in Minneapolis, improved to seven and oh with six

2177
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: Ko's Luke. The crowd loves the shit out of this guy. Yeah,

2178
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: he's only twenty four years old. He has the secondary

2179
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: WBA title at one sixty eight.

2180
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: This was probably his best performance.

2181
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying the guy he'd beat Hot Sauce

2182
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: Henderson is a you're gonna you know that. You'll see

2183
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: a lot of them moving forward. But you know what

2184
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: his manager and advisory label Morrell is Louis de Cubis Senior,

2185
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: who is a very decorated manager in boxing history. He

2186
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: told me after this fight in the ring, he goes,

2187
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I've seen every Cuban boxer over the last thirty years.

2188
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: No one's as good as this guy.

2189
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 3: I'll say this for him.

2190
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Now, that's a dude from that guy.

2191
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's his guy.

2192
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 2: He's trying to hip him up by but I'll.

2193
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: Say this, Here's what I thought abou him something very

2194
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 3: quickly tim which he thought. I thought his offense was

2195
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: super dynamic and he was beat the ship. This poor

2196
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: guy's hot sauce. He did get touched up a little

2197
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 3: bit more than I would care for.

2198
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: I think he for the k on the first run.

2199
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: So the question was how much was he making himself vulnerable?

2200
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: But still he was. He was impressive as ship.

2201
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: We talked about Hanny Hanny Hamy versus Cambosis from down

2202
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Under Luke on this Cole main event, forty three year

2203
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: old Lucas Brown was a plus fourteen junior fog and

2204
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 1: he sent junior fog dade.

2205
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 3: They fall on their arm like that, you know what

2206
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean? Like that's such a bad uh? He was.

2207
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: And by the way, a couple of things. One Eugene Barman,

2208
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 3: the head of City Kickboxing, was in Junior Fo's corner.

2209
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: You don't say that could be coming up?

2210
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, hold on. The reason I wanted to point

2211
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 3: this out was, uh, dude, the ref didn't do any

2212
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 3: favors here. He gets knocked down the first time, and

2213
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 3: yes he beat the count, but for example, you go

2214
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: back to the Roly fight. Remember the ref made him

2215
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 3: walk and it was only after he walked in he

2216
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 3: was still kind of snanky leg and he called it. Dude,

2217
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 3: Junior fag was worse than that, and reff was like,

2218
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 3: fuck it, let's go back out, and sure enough he

2219
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 3: he gets fucking demolished. Isn't there you go? I mean

2220
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 3: his feet are hanging off the ring. I mean, this

2221
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 3: is not a great stoppage.

2222
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 1: Brown looks like he came straight from eating flesh before

2223
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: entraining this fight.

2224
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, they found orcs the fight man. Yeah.

2225
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: So, as we mentioned Luke so much for the undefeated

2226
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: c KB or Oh, by.

2227
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: The way, his coach Barman in the corner of Junior five.

2228
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 3: By the way, Junior Fall was a minus fifteen hundred

2229
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 3: favorite and gets dusted in the first.

2230
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: I said plus fourteen hundred underdog was Brown and there

2231
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: is coach Eugene. Tough night for the faz Luke. Also

2232
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: Luke Real recognizing Real.

2233
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 3: In the ring.

2234
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Maloney of the Maloney Twins.

2235
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 3: He was in the Komaine right, Yes, yeah, he beat

2236
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 3: what's his face the.

2237
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Ashton plekde Yes, and look it looks good in that

2238
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: that top.

2239
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah he does man shouts of Volkanowski.

2240
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of Maloney, Luke, he delivered Aston polikte on a

2241
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: one way ticket to hell with this finish loose.

2242
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, what a shot that was. And this

2243
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,879
Speaker 3: dude beat the count two. But we'll sort of big.

2244
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: Win for Maloney and he needed it. I don't know

2245
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: if we'll get to see it again here if you

2246
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: missed it the first time.

2247
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 3: But by the way, can we talk about how esp

2248
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 3: you were working so you didn't get to appreciate it

2249
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 3: and listen some people like Joe Testatour. Some people don't.

2250
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 3: Some people like Timothy Bradley, some don't. I like Timothy Bradley,

2251
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 3: I like Joe Testatur. But you had that knockout with

2252
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 3: Junior Fi in the first round and they just vamped

2253
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 3: for a motherfucking hour. Yeah that happened.

2254
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, did they did? They show Cold

2255
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: Left sitting on the couch that time before the canlo

2256
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 1: but we're there with the pillow and he's laying down.

2257
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: No. No, And then they showed a bunch of high packages,

2258
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 3: so it wasn't just Bradley and test Store going on

2259
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 3: and on. But I was like, I said us on Twitter,

2260
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 3: I believe it. If you get a if you have

2261
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 3: an if you have an hour of broadcast time to kill,

2262
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 3: and I'm watching on ESPN Plus, give me the house speed.

2263
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 3: Because there were fights going on in the background, they

2264
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 3: weren't even showing them.

2265
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: We mentioned Bill Haney got that last minute clearance on

2266
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 1: his visa to travel as the father manager trainer.

2267
01:31:58,439 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: Of Devin Haney.

2268
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: Here's for of him. Arrived long time at the airport.

2269
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Thats been a long ass flight.

2270
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 3: I guess. I guess because I guess they fought in Melbourne.

2271
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 3: So obviously it depends on where in Australia you go.

2272
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 3: But I'm told that there is a short enough flight

2273
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 3: where it can be fourteen hours from California. Okay, what

2274
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: was the longest flight you've ever been on?

2275
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I haven't done that bad I've done I've done direct. Really,

2276
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: just direct from from Hartford to LA would probably be

2277
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: the longest.

2278
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 3: The longest, my dad tells me. As a kid, I

2279
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 3: was on longer flights than this, but as an adult,

2280
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 3: the longest one I can remember is I flew from

2281
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 3: DC to Istanbul and that was twelve dude. I was

2282
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 3: ready to hurt people yet last time we left, because

2283
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 3: then you have to get off and then you have

2284
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 3: to go through customs, and then you have to get

2285
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 3: your back and they have to go to a hotel.

2286
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: I drove to the airport with Jimmy Lennon Junior, the

2287
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: classy Hall of Famer, and and he is, by the way,

2288
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 1: he's flying today to Japan for the Nonito Don air fight.

2289
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 1: And I was just talking to him, you know.

2290
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 3: The fights tomorrow morning. Yeah, he's just going to go

2291
01:32:58,880 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 3: right to Japan like that.

2292
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a he's a beast. He's a Hall

2293
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 1: of Famer, And you know, I was like, look.

2294
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, does is it is?

2295
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: It? Is it wound you? Because I go I get

2296
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: off the plane in La sometimes and I'm wounded for

2297
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a day and a half. He's like, oh, yeah, it

2298
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: wounds you. Yeah, that's that's the that's the price. Okay,

2299
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Bill han he paid that price. Yeah, he saw what happened.

2300
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, did you hear in the corner

2301
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 3: when Mark Kriegel asked fucking Bill Haynes or Bill like

2302
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 3: when he came here. I guess it was like second

2303
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 3: or third round, and I think Kimbos's had just landed,

2304
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 3: like maybe a decent punch or two, Like it was

2305
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 3: a little bit like not the tide was turning, but

2306
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 3: it was looking a little bit better than it was

2307
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 3: because he was just getting the space jabbed off in

2308
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 3: the first and Mark Kreegle was like, all right, let's go, Mark,

2309
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 3: let's go to the you know, to the corner with

2310
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 3: Mark Kriegel, who's there was Bill Haney And he was like, Bill,

2311
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 3: was it really worth the trip? It's like, well, the

2312
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 3: fucker he just like, what like kind of a question

2313
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 3: is that okay, yeah, Luke.

2314
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia wanted to make sure that Dravante was watching

2315
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: the fight. He tweeted at Dravante, you watching this stuff

2316
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: we fight, don't let it be like this and as

2317
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: you can see, Gravante with a very Luke Thomas like response,

2318
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't tell people.

2319
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 3: I only tell you to shut the fuck up. I

2320
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 3: don't tell like people on Twitter.

2321
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Wow, that's not true it Luke bonus Ko. Yes, actually

2322
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: some are saying the Ko of the year. This was

2323
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: on his own from Cardiff, Wales. Joe Cordina captured his

2324
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: first final look this shot, sending Ogawa I don't know

2325
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: the guy's first name to uh to weigh down under

2326
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Below Australia with that one.

2327
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 3: Luke, did you rarely see high level boxers get hit

2328
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 3: that clean? Yes?

2329
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: After this fight Shakers I think was sha Kerr said

2330
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: he would get on a plane tomorrow and fight this guy.

2331
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 3: Look at Eddie heard Eddie Hearn is not even pretending

2332
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 3: to be like promoting.

2333
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: I think we got to watch out for Joe Cordina

2334
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: now I think we do.

2335
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 3: That was unbelievable.

2336
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 2: Let's see it one more time.

2337
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 3: If you looked at the odds ahead of time. It

2338
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,600
Speaker 3: was actually pretty close you think it was it was

2339
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: this one.

2340
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: Hundred and thirty pound I think it was Shirquer Stevenson,

2341
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,879
Speaker 1: who's willing to fight this guy in England.

2342
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know if we're.

2343
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Going to get to see it again. I'm hearing no

2344
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: communication from Martino. Oh here we go, here we go live.

2345
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: Just you rarely see something like that at the high level.

2346
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: Us that you know what?

2347
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: That almost made me rock hard with emotion, which is

2348
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: a great transition here because we almost set a world

2349
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 1: record from the one.

2350
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: Championship card Friday morning.

2351
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: Luke, his name is Marcos Almeida and he got up

2352
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: off this that's Bosha, It's not bo it's Boudonga. After this, Luke,

2353
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 1: this man has a phoner. Getting that stoppage made this

2354
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: guy so excited.

2355
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 3: Luke, what I didn't even notice that you are the

2356
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 3: most don't say you tell our audience.

2357
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: I mean I got this dropped in my DMS like

2358
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: seventy five.

2359
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that's his dick and balls. First of all,

2360
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 3: I think it's just the shorts riding up.

2361
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, this is on and look he

2362
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 2: has like Neo p that towel to cover it. They're like,

2363
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 2: over that dick up.

2364
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's you can't camp out

2365
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: right here. You can put set a ten up like

2366
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: that right here.

2367
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 3: I often wonder why, like my family just ignores me.

2368
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: And now I know because look at me on a

2369
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 3: Monday morning. We're examining the dicks of athletes and what

2370
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 3: could be what could be worse?

2371
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: Honest wow, speaking you know who doesn't remind you of right,

2372
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and when it comes to combat sports, boner's look, it

2373
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: does remind you.

2374
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Now this one was a full on I mean

2375
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 3: that thing. I was like, I was like, did Connor

2376
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: go to.

2377
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: The black draw tryout?

2378
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: Ye? No, no, no no, It's like why is why

2379
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 3: does he have a frozen steak in in his dungarees?

2380
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean that thing, that thing was, That thing was.

2381
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: We laughed. But apparently boners for fighters are a real thing.

2382
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, just ask heavyweight Chris Ariola.

2383
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 3: Speaking of Ariolas fighting, man, I honestly get a bone

2384
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 3: them when I'm about to fight. It makes you feel

2385
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 3: there's no better competition for me than boxing, he said.

2386
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 3: He I was talking about getting a direction next to

2387
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 3: a clearly prepubescent child to his left. All right, speaking

2388
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 3: of Chris al.

2389
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 1: If you want to hear more about Bowatchina's boner, you

2390
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: could check out Luke's extra credit, but I'll show you

2391
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,879
Speaker 1: this boner from b Nickel with a beautiful yeah, finishing

2392
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: his MMA debut. Although Luke it does look like he's fighting, well, he.

2393
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 3: Fought the manager of Lahwah. I mean, let's be real

2394
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 3: about that.

2395
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: But I'm not even sure like what that guy's wearing.

2396
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 1: He might have been wearing that on the street corner

2397
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: and they were.

2398
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 3: Like, we're gonna talk about this on extra credit. But

2399
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 3: the reality of this is this, dude, this is how

2400
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 3: I keep saying this to people. This is how regional

2401
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 3: MMA works. You had a guy, by the way, in

2402
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 3: the case of his opponent, who had had some previous

2403
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 3: amateur experience. They were both O and O's pros. Was

2404
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 3: it clearly a mismatch that.

2405
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Looks like txaw Jim Duggan?

2406
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing here, bro, hextaw Jim.

2407
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 3: Nothing is more like it. I mean the one I'm

2408
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 3: trying to make here is but zero versus zero guys,

2409
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 3: especially when there's a big imbalance in skills athletically is

2410
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 3: super com This is how the industry works. Everyone being like,

2411
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 3: I don't mean ship. Yeah, it's his pro debut. What

2412
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 3: are you supposed to take from it? His pro debut?

2413
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean a whole lot in the end, But like,

2414
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 3: was this matchmaking unethical? Only if the sport is that's it.

2415
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, CM Punkat had to be

2416
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: tested a little bit better in his pro debut, right.

2417
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was and what was that? That was

2418
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 3: a giant mistake.

2419
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: It was a giant steak, Luke, All that hassle for

2420
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: the taskle brother, I wouldn't know.

2421
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop out. But these people enjoyed graduations, Luke.

2422
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 3: Check out this boy off the stage of his graduation. Yeah,

2423
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 3: you fucking dope.

2424
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: But he plays it off.

2425
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 3: They should re send your diploma if you do that.

2426
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Watch how he plays it off, Luke. Oh yeah, man,

2427
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: do you think it was planned?

2428
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: Do you think it was planning now that you.

2429
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 3: See that, I think it was planned. No, I think

2430
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 3: he's a dumbass.

2431
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to the next stupid Speaking

2432
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: of graduation dances, let's see this man celebrate himself.

2433
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: Now, Is that cool or is that lame?

2434
01:38:59,080 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 3: Luke?

2435
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 1: I mean it's aggressive.

2436
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 3: I mean if your degree is in like bedpan technology,

2437
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 3: it's pretty lame. Oh.

2438
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: Look, you know we haven't done the elder abuse in

2439
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: a while, so let's check in sleeping on that first.

2440
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Let's check out an old person win, because you say,

2441
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 1: all I ever do is send old people to hell.

2442
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 2: How about this old guy?

2443
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 3: Win?

2444
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: Look at your dad at the weather reception, Luke, Wow,

2445
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 1: my man can move.

2446
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 3: He's a better dance of than you and me combined.

2447
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 1: How it looks like your dad doesn't.

2448
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 3: No, my dad's not that mobile.

2449
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: Let's shout out this old lady on her one hundred

2450
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: and fourth birthday, second birthday.

2451
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 2: I don't know who's counting at this point.

2452
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: Why don't Oh she.

2453
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 3: Played it off well though, Look right, one hundred and two,

2454
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 3: she's looking pretty good.

2455
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's see old people getting hurt. Luke, you

2456
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: ever walked by a punch machine and think? You know,

2457
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm an old guy, but I still got it right. Power?

2458
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: This power is the last thing to go.

2459
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 3: Look, I think, is what they say to look at

2460
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 3: this fucking.

2461
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: We popped the boys in the room with that one.

2462
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 3: Luke. Wow, look at this fucking oh god, oh bro,

2463
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2464
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: If this next one is legal, Luke, or if this

2465
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 2: lady's old enough.

2466
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 3: But those, by the way, don't real quickly before he shows.

2467
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 3: Those are always the guys at like ball games who

2468
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 3: talk the most shit. It's like, old man, I could

2469
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 3: end your life very quickly, very I could end your

2470
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 3: life just by dodging, and then you just fall.

2471
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know what's going on here. If

2472
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: we can legally show this, but hopefully like a sneak

2473
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: it in. Luke watched this white van closely and this

2474
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: lady you know she walked it off though she did

2475
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 1: walk it off. Wow, right, I think that's why we

2476
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: can show it.

2477
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 3: Bro.

2478
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 1: That's the shittiest uber I've ever remember that time I

2479
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: tried to show that circus guy getting uh yeah, he's.

2480
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 3: Like I got this guy. He dies in this whole clip.

2481
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 3: Is that cool? I'm like, I don't think so, I don't.

2482
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 3: I don't know it's funny because it's true. Where in

2483
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 3: bumpfuck North Florida is this? You know how? You know

2484
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 3: how you can tell it's like somewhere in the shitty

2485
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,520
Speaker 3: South because look, there's no sidewalks.

2486
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Get them Gainsville, right.

2487
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 3: There's just enough pavement for cars. The people who the

2488
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 3: people who plan the city were like, listen, we don't

2489
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 3: care if people walk anywhere. Just is you know?

2490
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, let's go get drunk.

2491
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

2492
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: Let's check it on internet drinking legend Ronnie Deutsch. Luke,

2493
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 1: here's his latest.

2494
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 3: Bid, hero of men. Yes, what do they call these

2495
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 3: yards of beer?

2496
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 2: Yes, that is a lot of beer.

2497
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 3: That's a shit.

2498
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: He's a tall drink of water. This fellow six foot

2499
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,759
Speaker 1: five Luke, former D three power forward.

2500
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 3: All right, so in other words, he's like, okay at basketball,

2501
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 3: I don't know how he stays jacks by YMCA standards.

2502
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: This guy's incredible. We got to do, you know, feel

2503
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 1: in the groove, do the bull dance.

2504
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 3: You know, you know this segment is not possible without

2505
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 3: white folks.

2506
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: Well, speak of white folks.

2507
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 1: I was supposed to show the greatest video in the

2508
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,560
Speaker 1: history of the segment, but apparently we don't have it.

2509
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: We'll get to that next week, but we do have

2510
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 2: this one.

2511
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 3: Luke.

2512
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: This brings new danger to shotgunning a beer.

2513
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean get.

2514
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 1: The commitment is admirable.

2515
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 3: This guy a stupid mother. I mean he's a U

2516
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 3: n stee. Boy, go, Duke, you don't walk off. You know.

2517
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Were two things that don't go together, well, Saint Patrick's

2518
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:17,440
Speaker 1: Day and trust.

2519
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 3: Falls dude.

2520
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: From South America.

2521
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 2: Oh boy, she just went south, that is for sure.

2522
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Wow. Look at them trying to set this up Luke

2523
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: the other end, Yeah.

2524
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 3: That's because you know what, she a little bit of

2525
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 3: a caboose. They weren't ready. They didn't know about that sickness.

2526
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: I knew about it, Luke.

2527
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: You know you've been called secretly the fun Police on

2528
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: this show, Luke, but here are some great moments in

2529
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: fun Police history. You would love this, Luke. This guy

2530
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: jumped the fence to propose to his girlfriend at at

2531
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Disney World. But because it's on the stage where the

2532
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: general public isn't allowed, this beefy fellow was intercepted.

2533
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, whose titties are bigger? I don't know. Now.

2534
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: Look, since you hate public, yes, people.

2535
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 3: Who do this deserve to be beaten with baton.

2536
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: So you support this one? Police?

2537
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course. Okay, everyone going out there, people

2538
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 3: who like I've said that before. If you go out

2539
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 3: and you like basically forcibly recruit other people to either

2540
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 3: participate in or admire your wedding proposal. You're the world's

2541
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 3: worst person and deserve to be set to guantanamo where

2542
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 3: you have forced rectal feedings. Oh fuck, you're alive.

2543
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, let's go back to this fun police man.

2544
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: Apparently art is not recognized everywhere, even at the ballgame, Luke,

2545
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: as they make this, it's just.

2546
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, look at this, Look at this, Look at

2547
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 3: this old mask.

2548
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people said this is Luke Thomas in

2549
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: thirty years when they said the thirty.

2550
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 3: Years thirty minutes. I'll do that this weekend at the

2551
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 3: NATS game.

2552
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of you and I, Luke, check out this reenactment

2553
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 1: of me every time I get you vaping on set.

2554
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 3: By the way, I haven't veigd on set in a while.

2555
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: Can that white trash shoot off the car? By the way,

2556
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: don't you love that? Our staff who set up our

2557
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: our room service diary studios, which is right there, they

2558
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: had to rolled up one hundred dollars bill in the

2559
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: ash tray on our first episode.

2560
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean with Glover, was it real the whole time?

2561
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2562
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 2: No, it's a fake.

2563
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: One hundred bill but rolled up like like someone on

2564
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: the staff was. Yeah, like they're trying to like they're

2565
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: giving MK that image, right, Yeah, not really all right? Uh, Luke,

2566
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 1: you know that old saying nobody puts BC in the corner.

2567
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 2: Let's see some dirty dancing done right from these drunk gunkles.

2568
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 3: Look at this? Wow, what the fuck?

2569
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: There's a preview of Ashley from Malca's wedding. That's that's

2570
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: coming up soon.

2571
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:54,600
Speaker 3: It's vaguely racist. Come on, vague it's not like you know,

2572
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 3: white Hood January six races.

2573
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a that's a dirty dancing wind. So

2574
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: all good things must be followed by a vicious fail.

2575
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 1: So let's go to this Dan sequence.

2576
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 3: Luke, yo yo, Spike this bitch god it what do

2577
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 3: they call that? The RKO?

2578
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: She had the time of her life?

2579
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 3: Luke?

2580
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: That looks like androsh versus not me unis.

2581
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 3: Wow, that's great, it's so great.

2582
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go for some food fun, Luke.

2583
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 1: Would you shop at this grocery store if you and

2584
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: I both got divorced and moved in together.

2585
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not going to say if this is vaguely

2586
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,799
Speaker 3: racist or not. I'm going to let the audience decide.

2587
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the title.

2588
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 3: I have a feelings vaguely all right, I.

2589
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: Guess we could move out if that's the case. Luke,

2590
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: you tweeted this at me. I think you texted it

2591
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: at me too. On the highway after an accident. This

2592
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: this eighteen wheeler produced fifteen thousand pounds of the grocer

2593
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: shit inside of hot dogs, which I can't tell if

2594
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I'm like getting nervous, then all that

2595
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 1: great waste just went to waste, lucor if my liver

2596
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,440
Speaker 1: is folding back up invertedly.

2597
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was like, there's a lot of sad

2598
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 3: beasts out there in the wall today or hot dog list?

2599
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: What do you think that's made out of?

2600
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 3: I don't want to know.

2601
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: That's one of those things I just don't want to know,

2602
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, just like we all like a good burger,

2603
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: nobody wants to go to the go to the you know,

2604
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse and watch it being made.

2605
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 3: Right. Uh, have you ever seen an animal slaughtered? No?

2606
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 2: And I don't want to.

2607
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 3: First time I had to butcher a deer, that was, Oh,

2608
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 3: that's so gross. That was that was That was an

2609
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 3: interesting experience. That's watching all their guts.

2610
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 1: That's what made you so hard.

2611
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 3: We had to take the skin and then peel the

2612
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 3: skin off piece by piece. Wait for what the army? No, well,

2613
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 3: just hunting. We killed a deer. Yeah, we we ate it.

2614
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 1: Dude, you are so much closer identifiable with the MMA

2615
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: fan base than you realize.

2616
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, except I you know, I read books and don't

2617
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 3: hate black people.

2618
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh look, big week for gore violence. Let's bring that

2619
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: to Have you seen this ship? This is in Yellowstone

2620
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 1: National Park? This boorg going wild?

2621
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 2: Whoa wow?

2622
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Yo, you know what. I've actually not been to Yellowstone,

2623
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 3: but like you know, my dad's inm Oklahoma, so I've

2624
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 3: driven by places where you can see bison in the wild. Yeah, dude,

2625
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 3: in half of America. Just the thing that's separating you

2626
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 3: from the bison is merely like a little sense was

2627
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 3: taken clear, So the real answer is, like, what separates

2628
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 3: you from the bison. It's supposed to be your discretion

2629
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:16,799
Speaker 3: and these these yeah yeah, yeah yeah, these these special

2630
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 3: needs people live, no stops. It's a girl.

2631
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 2: She lived, which is why we can show it.

2632
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I hope someone researched that.

2633
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 2: I will say that that wow.

2634
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 3: Well, Luke, don't fuck with the bison. How hard does

2635
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 3: this say?

2636
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with the bulls because you might not get gourd,

2637
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 1: you might get double gord like this mother effort.

2638
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 3: Luke, check this shit out? Oh oh.

2639
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: Good lord, looks like Lawrence Taylor and Joe Thus.

2640
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 3: You know you want me to say I feel bad,

2641
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 3: but I actually feel good? You feel good?

2642
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's some gore violence. How about some liquid violence, Luke?

2643
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: And this children is how I went blind at age

2644
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: twenty one?

2645
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 3: Oh no, this dumb fucking idiot.

2646
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that was the second time that happened.

2647
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: Or that This is this a prom nightly the first

2648
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 1: time she was drinking though.

2649
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 2: That's not good. Okay, uh, let's go to some X

2650
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 2: game ship that'll kill you, Luke.

2651
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: Check out this half pipe.

2652
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you it's just all whites today. We got

2653
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 3: the wrong order here.

2654
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: First, let's check check ship attack of the soda bottle man.

2655
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 3: They put the mentos in it and then it goes, hey.

2656
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 1: Wow, soda will kill you.

2657
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

2658
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: It's like a missile, dude.

2659
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 2: All right, now it's time for some X game ship that'll.

2660
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: Kill This is my colon. After I eat you buy

2661
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: the group on for the for the half pipe. You

2662
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: got to make sure it's not busy that day. Luke,

2663
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: you gotta watch where you're going. Wow, wait, wait, blow

2664
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: that up, you sports bro just took that chicken?

2665
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Wait, that's a girl who hit her.

2666
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 3: Oh it looks like Terry Tait off this line back curse.

2667
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wow. That's unbelievable. Let's go to this h

2668
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: this other gnarly BMX accident that we've got here. Let's

2669
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: check this ship out. Oh boy, this guy should not.

2670
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 3: Be on that bike. Yeah, you're about to eat it. Yeah,

2671
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 3: that's a w No, watch I know it keeps going.

2672
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 2: Oh oh that'll leave a mark.

2673
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow that is I'm still not sure

2674
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 1: we should have shown that.

2675
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 3: Let's keep it going, though. Let's go to this is.

2676
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 3: This is a very good edition of this. I'm actually

2677
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:21,560
Speaker 3: loving it.

2678
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 1: Let's go to the skateboard accident.

2679
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 3: All right, what do we got here?

2680
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh boy, sadly.

2681
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 3: All of these morons castrating themselves. Yeah, just my favorite party.

2682
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 3: He went on to live alone the rest of his

2683
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:33,839
Speaker 3: life in the coffin.

2684
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the bike ramp and let's

2685
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: keep let's see if we could top that.

2686
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 3: Let me get his balls.

2687
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure we can't.

2688
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 3: Here we go, but let let's like South America.

2689
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably is. Let's hit the slow moo button.

2690
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 3: Look at this, oh now serving scorpion. Wow, dude, yo,

2691
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 3: So here's this trick. I'm gonna hit this ramp and

2692
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 3: then I'm going to break my fall with my face

2693
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 3: and my stern them for twenty five yard.

2694
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: I listened to the winds of change, right right.

2695
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 3: I like how his feet carry the bike forward as

2696
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 3: he as he lands. Watched watch watch his feet, Watch

2697
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 3: his feet, they hold on and they just keep the

2698
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 3: bike going. Wow.

2699
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 1: Uh, let's go to let's go back to the skateboards. Look,

2700
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 1: this is an aerial view of a fantastic accident. Oh

2701
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: wrong one, Let's see what this brings us.

2702
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 3: Are these the people that guard us Emperor Palpatine? Yeah?

2703
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 3: Pretty much? That is. What was the what was the

2704
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 3: dude from last Jedi? What was his name? The one

2705
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 3: that they cut in half? I forgot who was the

2706
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 3: guy that snow snow? Yeah?

2707
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 2: This was like new camera guy.

2708
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 3: New camera guy knows she's like snow bitch.

2709
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,879
Speaker 1: All right, we haven't had anything. Got a new camera guy, Robed.

2710
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,799
Speaker 3: He was just doing just construction.

2711
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,919
Speaker 1: He definitely looks like a like a European midfielder.

2712
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I was like, can we not

2713
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 3: do task rabbit fulfillment in the middle of our show? Please? Rob?

2714
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Are you Serbian?

2715
01:50:58,439 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 3: Bye?

2716
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: By nature? He's Italian. He looks like a like a

2717
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Serbian midfielder. That's what I would say. That's not racist

2718
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: at all.

2719
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, that's a little race.

2720
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's sorry about that, Rob. All right, we

2721
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: got it.

2722
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 2: We got an aerial view of this next skateboarding action.

2723
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 3: This is this is great, Luke, this is today.

2724
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's not an aerial actual woo.

2725
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one, right there. Tag it.

2726
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 1: Tag you have c t there it is yeah, no

2727
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: tag backs.

2728
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I already sprayed. Okay, I don't know what.

2729
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 3: The next one is.

2730
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Is it more more crashing? Do we have the aerial view? No,

2731
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 1: we don't, Luke.

2732
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 3: Before they play this, I've seen this one.

2733
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 1: Probably because when it has been sent everywhere, I actually

2734
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 1: think this may be the greatest knockout in the history.

2735
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 3: Of have you. It's pretty good.

2736
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Let's see it. Let's go to the video tape.

2737
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 3: Bob Bob Bob oh.

2738
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 2: Good right into the coffin too person.

2739
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 3: So Emily Ducatti had one like this when you get

2740
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 3: him with a big shot and they don't fall, but

2741
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 3: then they kind of lean and stumble and then they

2742
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 3: take one clean after that. Those are usually like the

2743
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 3: worst knockouts. Thank you.

2744
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 1: To are very aggressive and I wouldn't say talented, but

2745
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 1: really it's just a bunch of our p one fans

2746
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 1: who have so much time on their hands that they

2747
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 1: fill my dms with these great videos. Thank you Jeremy

2748
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 1: Oakman and company. That's the share of the week. Luke,

2749
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: I hope you saw it.

2750
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed it.

2751
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: But Luke, we have speaking of breakfast at Wimbledon Tuesday morning.

2752
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning, there's Big Time Championship Boxing.

2753
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 3: Yes, five am is the main card, starts on ESPN Plus.

2754
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 3: If you're a UFC fan, you should have it. It

2755
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 3: is between what's Itaway's first name, uh Nioa Nioa in

2756
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 3: a way and Anito Donair. This is big So in

2757
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, this was arguably the fight of the year.

2758
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 3: I think it won the fight of the year for

2759
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 3: many of these folks. It was my fight of there

2760
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 3: and Donair broke in a way's face early, but then

2761
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 3: in a way scored a late stoppage and what was

2762
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 3: an absolutely insane back and forth. Why does this fight

2763
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 3: matter and why should folks pay Okay? At its core,

2764
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 3: it matters because it's a unification about it.

2765
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighteen pound division bantamweight, two champs coming

2766
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: against each other. Why it matters even more because they

2767
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: put on what Luke mentioned was not only the fight

2768
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: of the year in twenty nineteen. I want to echo

2769
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:07,560
Speaker 1: this because people ask me all the time in my

2770
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: DMSBC give me ten boxing fights to watch it it'll

2771
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: make me a fan, And I throw this fight into

2772
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: that list sometimes because it's that great.

2773
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 2: The first time they met and.

2774
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: Luke, the reason why that first fight was such a

2775
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: great viewing experience is part of the storyline. Donito Dolnaire

2776
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: was kind of like on the app we thought we

2777
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: seen the best of him, future Hall of famer, something

2778
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 1: like a three or four division champion. But when he

2779
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 1: moved up to featherweight about six seven years ago and

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01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: he fought all the best, he got knocked out a

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01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 1: few times, Luke, and it was sort of like, Okay,

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: that's it. I never would have guessed he would move

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01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: back down to weight classes.

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01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 2: Did I spit in your eyes?

2785
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 3: No, I like scratched it or something that hurts.

2786
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 2: And that he would become relevant again. And now what

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01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 2: is he?

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01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Thirty nine nine? He went in there against a guy

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01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: who's in the top three some people, he's their proper

2790
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: prom king and the monster in a way who blows

2791
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 1: people away is just such a powerful and destructive force.

2792
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: Broke that guy's face, then took everything in a way,

2793
01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: had the rest of that fight, by the.

2794
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 3: Way, in a way, no excuse me, I'm sorry about

2795
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 3: my eye, but in a way. Is known as an

2796
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:08,520
Speaker 3: extremely dynamic puncher. Right, it's heavy, heavy.

2797
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 2: You can do it all great boxer.

2798
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 3: He's the I'm not saying that's all he is, but

2799
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:13,480
Speaker 3: his power is extraordinary.

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01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: And so this rematch comes after Donaire once again reinvented himself.

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01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 2: Last year.

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01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 1: He was in the Fighter of the Year conversation because

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01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: he had two big wins, both by knockout, to win

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01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: a title.

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01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 3: And defend it.

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01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 2: And this is, uh, this is must be viewing.

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01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 1: So uh, I mean, if it's really good, I might

2808
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:29,799
Speaker 1: as well just do like an MK instant els.

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01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 3: You should, right, and I think listen. If it ends

2810
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 3: up being stucky, I guess you could skip, But I

2811
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 3: honestly don't think it will be. I don't know how

2812
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 3: long it will go.

2813
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: So the main that's the part I can't The main

2814
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 1: event will be about seven.

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01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 3: Am, seven seven thirty something like that.

2816
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 2: They're going to check that out.

2817
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: I have to get up early because if you've got

2818
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 1: nothing to do tonight, and some of our p ones

2819
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 1: they don't, and I respect that where they're where there

2820
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: people like Reggie the Cat, Reggie Jackson, he's he's weird

2821
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: and everyone hates some of the house, but he picked me.

2822
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm his person, right, So like to some people out there, Luke,

2823
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: we're their person. We're there people like if they got

2824
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: close enough, they'd kill us. But for now, like, we're

2825
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: there people. So I don't know why I was going

2826
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: in that direction.

2827
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either.

2828
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 2: But what I will tell you is.

2829
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: You should watch the fight.

2830
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2831
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: Oh, if you've got nothing to do tonight, because we're

2832
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 1: your people, watch the first fight, go check it out,

2833
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: search for it.

2834
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. You can't be disappointed, you really can't.

2835
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 1: Just like us, in the show, Luke, we're about to

2836
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: film right after these cameras turn off a lot of

2837
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: really good shit for the future.

2838
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a lot of stuff going on and

2839
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 3: some special guests as well, so it should be a

2840
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 3: lot of fun. Maybe even a resume review people like

2841
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 3: that pretty much. Thumbs up on the video. If you're

2842
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 3: watching it on YouTube, please subscribe if you haven't already

2843
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 3: listening on the podcast platform, of course, give us a

2844
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 3: nice note. We're back on Wednesdays. Shoot us an email

2845
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 3: for fan subs or dead wrong Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Again,

2846
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 3: as a reminder, showtime dot com is the label that

2847
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 3: pays thirty days free trial. If you want to try it,

2848
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 3: you can keep it if you like it. If not,

2849
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 3: you can move on. Showtime dot com is the place

2850
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 3: to do that.

2851
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, in the Top Gun in the reboot, is

2852
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: there any mention of el Kemler's character or is he

2853
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: in it? Or what's the deal?

2854
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 3: I'll just say as a general answer to those three questions.

2855
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes, did you watch the val Kilo documentary? No, it

2856
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: is worse your time, dude, basically his entire life as

2857
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 1: an Actually, they.

2858
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 3: Literally took scenes from the original Top Gun and fed

2859
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 3: him into like not dream sequences, but like remembering. So

2860
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 3: they did it right. So there's actually old footage in

2861
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 3: the new movie.

2862
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Vell Kilmer's documentary.

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01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 1: Basically, he's been filming everywhere, He's gone every movie except

2864
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: for his entire career. He's constantly filming all the time.

2865
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: And they put together a look at his career, and

2866
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: you forget how great of an actor he is. Less

2867
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: you're a super fan of him, it's like, oh shit,

2868
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't that. When I think of him, I think

2869
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: of real genius. I think of Twobstone. You know, those

2870
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 1: were the big ones. But obviously he's done a lot

2871
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: more and commercially had a huge run. But he's a

2872
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: he's an artist, he's a legitimate he's amazing. His his

2873
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, he's got a condition now that

2874
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't make a lot of public appearances.

2875
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 3: Because he's something like that. His his his role in

2876
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 3: this movie, I'll just put it is, you know, it's

2877
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 3: pretty limited.

2878
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 2: Because I don't think he can perform on the same level.

2879
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 3: There is way is that they explained that through the character.

2880
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at that. But yes, Top Gun

2881
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 3: two thumbs up. From this guy.

2882
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: What about this chick Kelly McGillis, if she still loves shooting?

2883
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 3: You know the romantic parts of the movie, they definitely

2884
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 3: go over them a million times. That to me was

2885
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 3: like the least interesting part of it. The first top

2886
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 3: gun there was. They had real chemistry, they had that

2887
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 3: sexual tension. I didn't really feel it this time around.

2888
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 3: I felt like two old wash motherfuckers just trying to

2889
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 3: bump uglies. But which is kind of like he would

2890
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 3: meet at a totally speaking, but the movie itself, I

2891
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 3: just cannot say enough good things. It's such a fun

2892
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 3: take kids.

2893
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 2: My kid's at fourteen A love it.

2894
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 3: Yes, totally appropriate too, especially if they've hit puberty and

2895
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 3: the other hornballs.

2896
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 2: All Right, I don't check their search history, all.

2897
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 3: Right, And there's a reminder morningcombat Dot Store for everything else.

2898
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 3: That is Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Tons of stuff

2899
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna be shooting today, are gonna be coming out

2900
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 3: later feeling a lookout for in a way versus Donator two.

2901
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 3: Tomorrow morning we might have some coverage of it. Either way,

2902
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you folks on Wednesday. Until then, that's Brian.

2903
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 3: I'm Luke, May all of your gains be loyal