WEBVTT - Jerry Seinfeld 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.440 This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:16.520 Well you please welcome Jerry Steinfeld. Jerry Seinfeld debuted on 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.720 HBO in It was the same year he first appeared 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.200 on Johnny Carson. He was twenty seven years old. Nice 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.279 to be here tonight, A pleasure to be here tonight. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.680 Seinfeld's material stood out. It wasn't about his upbringing or 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:35.880 personal relationships. It was about our universal experience of everyday things. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.640 For John has have got to be the world's funniest clothes? 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.160 Who designed them to look that way? Like a little 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:47.800 tiny suit? Notice little collar button down and a breast pocket. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.720 There's a useful item. Is anybody using the breast pocket 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.560 a John's? Seinfeld asked questions we wished we'd thought of, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.680 then he'd answer them with a casual priss vision that 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:05.680 seemed to spin comedy out of nothing. In eight years 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.160 after his HBO debut, he and Larry David created a 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.200 weekly series that would change both their lives. This is 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.320 the show, and we're not going to change it. Right, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:27.360 how about this? I managed a Circus Seinfeld brand for 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.959 nine seasons on NBC. It was a critical and popular success. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.119 The show about nothing, as it's been described, challenged some 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:42.119 long established laws of mainstream television comedy. It was brilliantly unsentimental. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:48.520 The characters rarely exhibited emotions other than exasperation what was 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.880 going on and on set, the writers held strongly to 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:56.080 a principle they dubbed no hugging, no learning. The seventies 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.080 six million viewers who watched the series finale waited to 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.240 see what would happen next to the performers they've grown 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.600 to love, and even though conventional wisdom predicted spinoffs and sequels, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:14.280 Jerry Seinfeld went back to stand up and it wasn't easy. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.600 All of the stuff I've never said before anyone. So 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:23.480 this hoppen has developed to as you say, it's quite painful. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.640 He's done a few other projects as well. The latest 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.000 on the internet is a show called Comedians in Cars 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.240 Getting Coffee, which combines some of his favorite things, driving 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.400 while talking to his friends and drinking coffee. It's funny 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.880 that you picked at Jaguar, because I have a secret 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.440 love of Jaguars, but I'm not a car person and 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.840 I don't believe in spending money on cars. And no offense. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:55.520 Jerry Seinfeld has it figured out. He isn't destroying himself 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.240 trying to prove something. He isn't tortured by the challenges 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.040 of his art. He keeps things simple and clear. Take 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.840 his regular morning routine. When he wakes up. If my 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.560 wife is up, I like that because I do not 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:13.600 like cat pulling around. I want to get up. Let's go, baby. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.800 So the first thing I want, yeah, I want, I 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.760 want sports radio on. And I and I washed, and 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.760 I run the faucets and I start splashing my face 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:29.160 with water like Mace in the hustler like Mace and 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.240 the how was gonna see more? Like Joan Crawford before 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.840 she goes in the studio to see Gleeson And the 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:38.040 hustler goes into the bathroom splashes his face with water 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.960 to revive for the next round. I took that. I said, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.080 that's great. I'm gonna do that. That's how you face life. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.320 Water the water, if I splash water. What if you 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:52.720 go on stage? Is that what you do? Do you? 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.560 After I come off? You come off? When I come off. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.160 The hardest thing when you come off is to return 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.840 to your actual person out. You've blown your personality up 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:08.320 to this. You know, joker Jack Nicholson face. And when 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.920 you come off stage, I gotta go back to me 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.760 and I need a minute. People try and talk to 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.120 me when I come off. I can't talk to him. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.480 I got I gotta splash some water. I gotta yeah, 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:27.440 I got beautiful towels. Give me. That's how I like 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.800 to start the morning. Shades up radio, sports radio one 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.719 splashing yes, and then and then what do you have 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.719 for breakfast? What's breakfast? Oatmeal, hunting and cinnamon. So there's 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.520 a kind of a military theme. There's a kind of 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.880 a military base theme. You at home doesn't resemble a 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:51.600 military base. I'm not funny. People die, people gonna get hurt. Yeah, 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.520 you want me on that stage? You need me on 0:04:55.680 --> 0:05:00.560 that stage. Is that how you feel? No? No, you 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.720 don't know what word do you just use to describe 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.200 what you do? What word do you use? What describes 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.000 what you do? Well, there's a term for it. I 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.560 don't need to describe it with another called stand up comedy. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.359 Because you call yourself a comic. You don't call yourself 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.359 an actor. No, I'm not an actor. You're not an actor. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.640 I have acted. Have you ever considered doing anything dramatic? 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.640 Why to what end? Okay, it's just a waste of time. Yes, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.599 So when when you saw someone like I mean the 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.880 most you know, blaring example is when Jerry Lewis does 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.680 King of Comedy and crushes it. When Jerry Lewis comes 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.320 in there and plays that kind of just arid, I mean, 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.480 it was so remarkable his performance, it was breathtaking. He 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.039 was breath. You don't remember the movie, yea, I thought 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.560 he was breath And you don't see yourself doing that 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.840 kind of in the hands of someone like that. Of 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.119 course you do something like that, but that's what I'm saying. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.640 But that's his movie. Are you grading me? Am? I am? 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.080 I not getting it right here. I'm just I'm just 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.360 I'm just riffing with you, and I'm just saying that, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:11.640 um what I do is um um the only thing 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.039 that makes sense to me. But I'm not disagreeing with you. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.359 I'm saying that there are people that come out on film, 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.000 you know, comics, stand up comics clubs, performing, maybe they 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.000 go into sitcoms with the shows or just be b joke, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.080 be b joke, they tell jokes, and then they go 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.440 into the movie business. And there's some sense that there's 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.320 going to be and again not just stand up people, 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.960 but the improvisatory groups. You know, if they come from 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.680 UCB or Groundlings Corral is a good example, and they 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.440 come on. And there was an amount of acting that's 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.479 required when you did your TV show, there was some 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.599 acting that was required. So but you don't but you 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.200 gotta act the whole show. But but some saying, so 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:49.640 you don't call yourself an actor that you just say 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.120 I'm a comic. If I'm on the show acting, then 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.800 i'm acting. I'm I'm a comedian. Okay, I'm a stand 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.159 up comedian. That's what I call myself. But I can act. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.600 I just see the need for it. I don't think 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.320 the world needs me to do that. This is Paul Rudd. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.200 What do you need me for? You got you got 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.600 a guy for that. We got a guy for that 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.800 who can do Can he do what I'm doing? Can 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.240 he step into my shoes? Now? There's many people that 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.800 can do that thing and I and I wish them 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.200 all the luck and success. But my thing only I 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:25.040 can do my own head. My thing is too just 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.720 you know, you probably splashed a lot of water in 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.960 your face. Is shoot, you're splashing an inordinate amount of 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:35.360 really brisk water. It's almost always three splashes. I'm trying. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.280 I'm feeling eight or nine splashes. We went on this 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.640 morning because you're loaded for bear. We're like in a 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.560 deposition here. I love talking with you. You know that. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.600 I love talking with you. Okay, so um? Who makes 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.320 it in comedy? Who are the ones that make it? 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.800 And it's a change in your lifetime? What does it take? 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.160 Who's in show business? Let's answer that question, because I 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:56.920 have I'll tell you who's in show business. You know 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.760 it's in show business? Like who wants to be more 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.720 than anyone else? Those are the people that are in it, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.200 the people that just go I want to be in it. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.240 I'm going to be in it. Do I have the 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.400 skill set? Do I have a talent? I have something 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.280 to offer? We'll find out or not. But it doesn't 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.800 I may not. I take on that with between Paccino. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.120 I said to him, what do you do when you 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.000 do a movie and the other person isn't that good? 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.120 Like you're doing a scene, and I said, you go 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.240 up to the director and give them notes, say tell 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.720 them this other And said, no, I never do that. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.440 I never do that. No, no, no, I said, I said, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:33.800 what do you do? I? I said, what do you 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.120 do when the people that you're working with they just 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.800 I mean, you're so talented, and it's like tennis and 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.040 you and you're and you're hitting the ball with some 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.680 and they're not that talented. And he said, Alec, Alec. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.760 All of us in the business are talented. Everybody's talented. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.840 Some of us are just more talented than others. But 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.440 everybody in the room when you're working, they've got some 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.240 kind of talent. Like you'd say, he has a talented 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.880 for storytelling. He had a talent for this. But you 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.600 are saying that people who determination is a big part 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.200 of it. I'm saying it's most of the people we 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:11.040 see in in the arts are there not because they 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.360 had the most to offer, but because they wanted to 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.560 be there the most. You believe. So when you're in 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.679 clubs in your early years and you'd see people who 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.120 were working, did you have did you not? Not that 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:24.720 you cared about this or you were focused on this, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.480 but would you Sometimes because my friends who were in 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.360 clubs and who were comics, there was a lot of 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.040 evaluating of each other in the competition. It was very competitive, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.880 and would you look at people and say, I think 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.560 he's got it or she's got and they're gonna make 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.080 it and they don't or this one doesn't. And and 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.400 a big part of your saying it is just the 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.120 drive as they want it. They're a dog on a bone. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.200 You see a lot of that, don't you think? I 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.040 think so? Well? In the in the movie business, you 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.360 can see people who they put it before everything else, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.000 you know, I mean they're not what business? What what 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:59.040 field of endeavor has the highest bullshit factor? Right? In 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.760 your opinion? Um, because you've been in a number of 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:08.200 different branches. Now, well, I think, well, obviously a government 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:13.400 is I think entertainment. Did you enjoy the Anthony Weiner 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:19.760 Show this season or not? The show put on for 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.720 us when when that was going on? Did you were 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.800 you disgusted? Were you going? I love this? I I 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.319 loved it because to me it was the visible man. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.760 Let's take off the face of the clock and watch 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.600 the gears and that's what that was. This is you know, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.839 we're talking about people our ownership show business because they 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:42.280 want to be he wants to have he just wants it, 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.960 wants and most of most of them have all the 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.840 guyses and veils and and you know police, well, they 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.960 pretend that what you just hit on a very important point, 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.720 which is that they pretend to some degree that it's selfless. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.679 That also, yeah, that that they don't crave power. But 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.160 the other thing about Weener that I found unusual. I mean, listen, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.320 this is I'm not going to say anything. I don't 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.680 think I'm capable of saying anything that hasn't been said before. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.880 But the idea that you want to take pictures of 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.520 your genitalia and send it to women that you barely know. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.400 I wonder if there's an unconscious part of him that's like, 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.960 I'm gonna send pictures of my genitalia to a couple 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.959 of women who I don't even know that well, and 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.280 let's see what happens. Let's let's roll the dice here. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.600 I'm putting all my chips on black. I'm all in. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.680 I got another pile, and I'm all in on sending 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.360 this chicken picture of my you know what, of my personality. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.199 I don't have that desire, right, I'm not exacts. It's 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.840 easier to understand than his get off was. Ding. He 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.760 looks at the phone. Ding, let's it just press send. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.319 Where where's the thrill? Everybody has a has some component 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.400 of them for what I call negative excitement, like what's 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.760 your thing you want to do that that you indulge 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.000 some weakness of yours? You know what I mean? Some 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:02.800 people have food issues, they have drinking. Mine would be yours. Uh, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:07.160 I don't think I mean beyond tomato sauce. Maybe. I mean, yeah, 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:12.600 that's not that you are. And for people who don't 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.760 know you, see, this is the thing that in all honesty, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.840 I always when I think about you, the list of 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:23.000 things I think about is is how not just professional 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.080 and committed in all those other kind of lame were 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.920 you know, lazier words, but how you know, just just 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.520 focused and hard working. You are Like a lot of 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.040 people look at you and view you as someone who 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.240 is but let's be very candid. I mean you're someone people, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.679 but people view you as someone who is this incredibly 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.360 gifted person. I love this show, right, and no you are. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.320 But the point is that you like you don't work. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.679 It's like you do things like like you going on 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.960 on a trip to go do some gigs. It's kind 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.960 of a thing. You're probably just doing a favor for 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.840 someone that's more you. I don't think that's the general perception. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.839 I think that's you. I think you're amn to me 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.520 or what you think. Yeah, I think that's your sense 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.400 I'm projecting. Yeah, I think you're projecting. But you know 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.640 that that's not me. No, no, not at all. You 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.880 know that I love to work. You've incredibly so, but 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:19.680 but not um, I'm not driven by anything very healthy healthy. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.240 I'm not driving by anything unwholesome. But you're healthier. But 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:26.040 you are healthier than anybody else I've ever met in 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.040 your profession. Everybody else I've met in your profession, it 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.319 was you could do Saturday Night Live and be roaming 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.920 the hallways of that building. Yeah, for over the course 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.080 of you know, it's really more like four days, not 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.400 a full week, and you're around them other people. I 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.120 did a sitcom with other people. I've been around a 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.120 lot of people who make their living in comedy. I 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.319 made films with them, and some of them you'd be 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.240 around them. You know, within ten minutes you understood what 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.760 was really their deepest problem that they hadn't resolved. Some 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.200 of them took a question a few days. You don't 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:59.200 have any problems. No, I don't, but I do relate 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.920 very deeply to to all of those people. Describe. In fact, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.559 I was watching the Emmys. Is the only part of 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.760 the Emmys that I like when they do the Comedy 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:11.040 Writing Award and each Comedy writing staff puts up funny pictures, 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.560 and then when the the actual staff comes up on 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.200 the stage and you see these gnome like cretans just 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.720 kind of all misshapen, and and I go, this is me, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.440 this is who I am. This is that's my group people. Yeah, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:31.560 but you don't. Yeah, do you see that in me? Okay, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.400 well then you've learned something here today. What did I learn? 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:39.359 You learned that despite maybe I am healthy and somewhat functional, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.680 but I can I see myself as one of those 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.920 guys that that that that group of Colbert Report writers 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.160 that are just it looks like we would never let 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.720 them speak to Colbert must Now those that's where I 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.480 want to hang out with those guys. You do, Yeah, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.720 like Barry, Yeah, yeah, you're more comfortable with the berries 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:06.760 of that. I'm only comfortable only with those people, really. Yeah, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.040 describe Barry, you have a special relation. Harry Martyr is 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.040 my very special friend. Barry is the author of the 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.080 Letters from a Nut Book under the nom de plume 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:22.160 ted L Nancy, and he is UM. He's also fascinating 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:28.960 compilation of function and dysfunction, which any interesting person is. UM. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.560 He's a guy Who's what I love about Barries. I 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.800 can call him right now it's eleven thirty that he 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.600 will just say hello. He's always there, always at home. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.680 He's got a red couch. His living room looks like 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:45.040 a murder scene. This, you know, uh, very scary looking 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.240 stains on a white rug. He lives into Lucca Lake 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:53.880 to Luca Lake, and we talk every day, usually an 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:58.360 hour on a good day, two hours. And UM were 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:05.480 talking yesterday about chantics, the quit smoking drug commercial where 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.960 they list the side effects, and one of the ones 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:13.240 that people have experienced with chantics is weird dreams. And 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.920 now we're trying to figure out, well, what's a weird dream? 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.240 And do they have a hotline that you can call up? Say, Bob, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.400 I got a guy here's you know, woke up. He 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:28.080 dreamt he had orangutank feet. Is that weird? And he goes, no, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.520 I've had that one, you know, that's that's weird. Who 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:37.000 who doesn't have weird dreams. There's no dream. It's not 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.520 weird exactly. It's to be done to. I had a 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.440 dream last night. It's funny to say that because I 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.840 don't dream. Do you dream? Or you a dreamer? Everyone dreams. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.480 I don't remember my dreams very rarely. You're a good sleeper, Yeah, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.520 the super healthy man that you are, that man the water, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.600 the revel e, the up in the morning. I don't 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.840 want a cat pour around. That man sleeps well. He 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.480 sleeps well. Yeah, because I I have and you lay 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.480 down in yours to people have nothing to keep me up? 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.480 Is that what kop up? That? I don't think I 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.640 do bad things to people. You know, in the Jewish religion, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.240 we have a day to day of atonement. It's your 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.600 own kipper. When you think of the things that you 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.520 did during the year. Uh, and you repent. So when 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.720 you say so for you, that's a very short it's 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.000 almost like a moment. Yeah, exactly. You walk down the street, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:26.440 you kind of looked down at the crack of the 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.560 cyber food and counter three and go, okay, I'm done. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.719 I don't you thought I did. I did snap at 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.000 that woman when she spilled the coffee on my I 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.600 would never do that. You would never do that. No, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.320 I would never snap at somebody, never, never, never. I 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.600 wish I could say the same thing. I have snapped 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.600 at some people in my life. But a certain breed 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.199 of people, people I thought were nothing, gets to me 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:53.880 more upset than than you paying attention to those. Yeah, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.479 I don't like that. I do have because you're one 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.080 of the great entertainers that I try to glorify and 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.879 call it like I have like a Swayne syndrome. I 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.520 gotta put that cape on, I gotta get the door, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.640 and I gotta straighten these people out. In my mind, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.199 that light is flashing. Commissioner Gordon is flashing that light, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.119 and I gotta go downstairs, get in the car, go 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.520 out the tunnel, and Robin and I have to go 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.040 beat the living ship out of as many photographers as 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.880 we possibly can. You talk to him for an hour 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.800 or two hours? Is it? Is it a therapy for you? Yes? 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:27.160 Because yes, because we don't talk about anything important, no agenda, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.359 and we could just go on'm bored of this and 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.560 then it just and then just change yourself. You don't 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.440 even say I'm bored of this. I'll just change the subject. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.560 You just are on the same frequency, the two of you. Yeah, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.919 we love the sipping coffee and allowedly you know on 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:52.720 the phone that you know this this sound. Yes, I 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:57.440 like to tighten my too. I do type. Do you 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.560 get back to Barry? Because I have a friend like that. 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.280 My friend an adopts no. But I find that we 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.320 all have to have a person who is that kind 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.640 of a soul mate. You can really talk. And it's 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.240 interesting that it's a guy like my wife. Now it's 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.199 very close to that. I mean I can tell her anything. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.200 I can say anything. I can say anything and she'll 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.560 look at me and she and there will be some judgment. 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.040 Because all women want to fix the man. Therewith. I 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.040 want to think that they have some that they're they 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:28.360 have some kind of supervisory function in our lives. I've 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.719 learned to have my wife take my inventory, tell me 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.800 what's really going on, show me what I'm missing about myself, 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.359 see what you're not seeing is. And now what I 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.879 do is I sit there and I go, first of all, 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:45.040 I go like this, and then's just say, are you 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.119 listening to me? I'm like, yes, I'm every word. I 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:49.800 agree with you. You're totally right. I do do that. 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.160 It's wrong, it's wrong, and I really need to thank you. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.560 I need to look at that more closely, Like if 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.720 you're bringing that, I call Ronnie, who's my Barry. There's 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.760 none of that, there's no there's no judgment, there's no 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.840 supervisory function. Is that the way it is with Barry Um? 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.400 If I ask for it, I will often I will 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:13.439 ask him, uh, the most challenging questions of life to me? 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:18.320 Had he work related? Work related? Personal? You know, you know, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.720 almost every call we have it's why are we what 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.520 are we doing? Why are we here? Why are we 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:29.080 even alive? And he's give me an answer. He'll give 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.160 me an answer. What does he say? Why are we alive? 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:37.919 According to Barry Um, he would probably say, um, to 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.520 sit on the stained sofa into Luca Lake and think 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.200 the great thoughts. Yeah, that's right, to laugh, to have fun, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.880 to enjoy ourselves, Yeah, to enjoy ourselves happy. Now he 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.960 gives you professional feedback? Is there someone when you were 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.160 coming up? They gave you a professional feedback? You were 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.159 completely self determining? Yes, Why do you think that is? 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:03.800 You never turned to people? Not that I'm saying this 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:05.560 is good or bad. You never turned to somebody's like, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.040 how do you think I'm doing? No, Look, my mother 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.920 is an orphan. My father left the house probably eleven 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.040 years old to work on the street and make a 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.280 living on the Lower East Side. You know, they got 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.199 married in their forties. They had no concept of what 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:24.199 a family should even be. And all I craved was 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:31.080 the same fierce independence that they had in their lives. Instructible, indestructible, 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:36.000 self contained, self reliant people. This is not great going 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.520 into a marriage, may I say? You know? And I 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.000 was that guy saying, well, I gotta go now, I 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.040 gotta go to work. And you don't think that this 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.240 might be a problem for a person that's not used 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.280 to being around that. So it took me a long 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:50.960 time to learn that. You know that you have to 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:55.879 be understand because to me, to me, this life, my life, 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.560 what I would call my life in comedy, is a 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:04.359 life of sacrifice that I am only too happy to make. 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.560 All my relationships I got married at forty five. All 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.840 my relationships were as disposable as a dixie cup. Excuse me? 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.480 With women you made, Yes, I gotta work, you've gone. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.120 But well if you don't, if you don't want you know, well, 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:19.679 if you if you're gonna be on the road that much, 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:24.159 we can't be together. Goodbye, goodbye. This is this my 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.520 I have had a sense of mission. You were like 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.080 Lee Strasburg in The Godfather Part two. Yes, when he says, 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.600 if I come back here, I have a partner. I 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:37.280 know I have a partner. If it's not, i'll know, 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.200 I don't, I'll know, I don't what he said, I'm 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.760 going in the other room. It's the last time a 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:44.679 really out of shape man took his shirt off in 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:48.240 a movie and it wasn't bad. Hair on the top 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:52.640 of the shoulders, a little little little like a little 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:56.080 tumbleweeds of hair. Yeah, did you know him? Did you 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.600 know when I studied acting at this school on fift Street, 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.840 When I went and why you I went to Strasburg. 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.440 They assigned you to the studio. You went to Adler 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.919 Strasberg's up. I went to Strasburg, and I had wonderful teachers, 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.280 Marsha how Freckt and Jeffrey horn Is a wonderful too, 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.040 beautiful people. But you know the method of Strasburg was 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.280 very uh severe. Did it work for you? One of 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:19.280 the well it opened up your eyes to the idea 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.320 of whatever word you want to use. I'm never going 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.880 to use the right word for everyone. To mind your 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.480 past and mind your emotional fabric to get where you 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:33.440 want to go. Whereas Strasburg and Stanislavski, both people don't 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:37.840 necessarily stumble across this fine print and all these writings 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.679 of their where what Stanislavski and Strasburg both said is 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.639 that the method, so to speak, is something that you 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.399 apply only if the inspiration fails you. You don't you 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:47.879 don't need to go off into a room and twist 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:51.520 yourself into some kind of psychological pretzel to do this work. 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:53.680 If you can just say the words and you're there, 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.800 you feel connected to the character in and of yourself. 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.159 Do you do you have a desire as an actor 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.280 to be one of those guys, one of those I'm 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:06.080 gonna take my rib cage and separated. When I was younger, 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.080 I did you did when I was younger, I did 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:09.840 did you feel you there was there was there a 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:11.520 role where you felt you got close? Tonight, when I 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.119 did street Car named Desire on Broadway and Amy Madigan, 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.600 I would scream Stella, stella for her to come downstairs 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.800 and Amy would come in. The minute I would touch Amy, 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.040 I'd burst into tears. And remember I didn't I loved 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:26.080 Amy more than any woman I ever loved, you know, 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.600 at that moment, I mean and it was real, right, 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.160 I was in love with Amy. Do you think I'm 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.200 capable of that kind of work? I think you are. 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:37.120 It would be a tremendous mistake your car, it would 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.040 be a huge would be one of the poorest choices 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.760 probably in show business history, for you to go and 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:43.240 to say, you want to know, what do you want 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:47.240 to do? A street car on um. I was in 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.760 an acting class with a guy did have me play Brick. 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.080 But that's kind of know how tin roof He because 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.520 I was able to handle the light comedy so easily. 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.840 He said, you, I need to challenge you more. So 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:58.399 he had me. Then he said, I want you to 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.960 study the role of Brick. Wasn't that the name of 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:09.000 the character, And yeah, Maggie and Brick. Yeah. Well that's 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:10.440 when I left that. There's a girl I could you'll 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.280 you'll appreciate this because you're from Long Island. And I 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.159 met this woman, uh many years later, and even she 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.959 laughed about it. So I can say this, remember Pergament's 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.720 hardware storm. Okay, I went to I went to college. 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.320 I went to g W for three years and I 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.280 went and I took my last year there, my junior 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.760 year before I climbed over the wall there and went 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.920 to end. While you to study acting, I took acting 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.439 for non drama majors. It was a gut course you 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.680 take at GW. I took acting for non drama majors. 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.600 And everyone in the class this was one of the 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.280 things that gave me the the impetus to be an 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.720 actor because everyone in the class was so horrible and 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.960 I could, I could. I squeaked by like I wasn't 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.479 that bad. I was okay in terms of performing. And 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:52.199 the teacher said to me, I want you to do 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.720 a scene from Canta huntin roof of Maggie Brick scene. 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.960 And your partner is Debbie Pergament, who was the daughter 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.240 and then I don't want to call her the heir 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.439 to the Pergaman fortune, but let's just say that for 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.000 our comedy purposes, Debbie Pergaman and literally she was this 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:10.440 lovely girl, adorable, gorgeous, really cute as the day is long. 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.400 But she was from you know, like rosalind or somewhere. 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.120 So when she would say she was the only person 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.600 who made brick a bicyllabic where she was like a 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:25.640 brick brick, I am like a cat's on a Hudson 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:31.080 roof here, I am so upset. Debbie Pergmant was with 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.760 my partner in a scene study class and it was 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.840 it was eye opening. So where do we want to 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:42.480 go now? Your your career now? Um you you you're 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:46.400 seeing another corridor for yourself. Is something you want to explore, 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.560 something you have to offer or be honest with me. 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.040 Are you just tired and you just don't want to 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.360 travel and shlap and deal with these idiots you want 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:56.600 to know? The truth is I want to be more 0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:01.399 like you, really, because you are either re happy, Like 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.120 I look at you when I see to myself, everything 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.440 is always like why aren't you doing what other people do? What? Meaning? 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.679 Like the first thing people would say in the business, 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.000 I mean even outside the business, if they have some 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.359 savvy about it, what they say, did Jerry want to 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.440 ramp up a production company and just print TV shows? 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:22.080 I mean, how many sitcoms could you have launched with 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.840 the infra mater of your name, forget it, forget it. 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:29.240 You could have your own channel, the Jerry Channel. But 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.000 I didn't take that bait. Why because I know what 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:37.879 it is. I know what it is. That's why you 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.320 can't pull that over on me. What what is? I've 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.240 sat in all the chairs, I've been in all the rooms. 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.680 I know what it is. Look Alec you you've you've 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:52.560 been there right, Yes, you can't trick me into thinking 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:58.119 thinking what that's good? That's why, because don't. Most of 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:04.200 it is not native work and not reaching an audience. 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:05.879 You want to be on the water. How do you 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:06.960 want to be on the water. You want to be 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.320 on a yacht. You want to be on a surfboard. 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.359 I want to be on a surfboard. I don't want 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.480 to deal with the yacht. That's a yacht. And you 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.600 just also some people want a yacht to say, to 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.040 see my yacht, And you just didn't want people do you, 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.240 And you also didn't want to ultimately wind up putting 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.280 your name as is often the case. Look at which 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.040 if you're the goose that lays the golden egg, you're 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.200 the successful person and it all emanates you're the godhead 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.439 if you will comedy wise, and you go launch all 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.240 these other shows, and all those other shows they aren't 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.520 maybe as good, And how much of your well, why 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.560 doesn't he want to do it? How much would have 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.240 to even for much for you to be in there, 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.720 for ones of you just to put whatever it is, yeah, 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.640 whatever it is. Let me tell you why my TV 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.040 series in the nineties was so good besides an inordinate 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.760 amount of just pure good fortune. And most TV series, 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.240 fifty percent of the time is spent working on the show, 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:02.080 fifty percent of the time is spent dealing with personality, political, 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:10.120 and hierarchical issues of making something. We spent our time 0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.840 writing me and Larry the door was closed, some somebody calls. 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.000 We're not taking the call. We're gonna We're gonna make 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.560 this seem funny. That's why the show was good. I 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:24.000 didn't want to go from that two. Um you know 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:29.960 some some H. G. Wells contraption machine you know of 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.680 of trying to control the weather. That's what That's what 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.080 these these deals are. That's what making a movie is. 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.520 What's a movie. It's this giant machine, is this giant ship, 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.080 and everybody gets on it and they shove off and 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.920 nobody knows where it's going, and the captain is doing 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.560 where's the captain's he's getting high and and and and 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.000 you know, and sleeping with the first mate. Period. Yeah, 0:29:55.160 --> 0:30:00.960 so it's too much time and energy spent. That is 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:05.160 not the juice. The really good stuff is a great line. 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.480 So when when you go out a stand up comedian, 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.320 I can control that. So when you go out on 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:13.320 stage now, so for now, for you, other than whatever 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.760 other things you're involved with, writing or comedians and cars 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.160 with coffee and so forth, you go out on stage, 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.200 you perform live. How many shows you do on average? 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:23.760 Would you say, I'm not sure. It varies, but you're 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.200 on the road how many? How many shows a year? Um? 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:30.400 Maybe seventy so so you do seventy five appearances a year. 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:32.840 And is it just very simply a case where you 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.280 walk out there, that exchange of energy between you and them. 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.880 They want what you've got, you want what they've got. 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.240 You're at home, you feel comfortable, you're happy. It's a 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:48.960 it's a it's it's a very fulfilling, uh unsolvable puzzle 0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:54.760 that is endlessly um it just because it goes right 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.640 to your soul. Does every night need to be different 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:57.880 if you can make it, so do you try to 0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:59.520 make it different that there's nothing I can do about that. 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.920 It's gonna be different. It's gonna be different. But if 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.280 I can get him right where I want them and 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.680 and get myself where I want myself, and the thing 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:12.560 just explodes, well, you know, it's fun. That's life. People 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.600 who perform live. I'll never forget. There was an article 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.040 like an Esquire magazine or somewhere, and they did an 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.959 article about Wayne Newton and they took it was about Vegas, 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.760 and I think it was about Wayne Newton, and I 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.840 love this article. And they weren't mean towards him, were 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.480 diminishing him, and they were saying how they thought it 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.360 was uncanny how the guy went to the show in 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.200 Vegas with a stopwatch and Newton came out and he 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.320 did the same thing every show, the same exact thing, 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.760 the same exact beats. It was just it was just 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.400 he just cloned one show after that and he would 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.960 come out, but he would create the dynamic tension that 0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.400 this show was different, and he come out on stage 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.080 and people will be screaming, and the women are throwing 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.160 their panties and they're throwing their hotel room keys, had 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.239 him his crowd, and then he sit there and he'd say, um, um, 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.600 you know, we gotta we gotta wrap this up. But 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.240 you know I love you people. I'm gonna do someth 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.280 I'm gonna sing a song I never sing anymore. And 0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.560 the song he just sang, like you know, ninety minutes ago, 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.640 I singing number for you guys, I've never sing anymore. 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.600 I never would never break this one out anymore. And 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.600 he just re created the same, uh you know, mock 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.360 freshness of the whole thing, which many performers. I assume 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.320 they do that. Yeah, he used to say, tell him 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:15.280 locked the doors. They don't want me to go long. 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.440 But but this audience, I don't remember. I don't. I'm 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.160 gonna do something for you never I'm breaking the rules. Yeah, 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.040 and of course you wouldn't right on the button. You 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.480 performed in Vegas all the time. So they throw the 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.680 hotel room key. How desperate is this entertainer, by the way, 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.120 to just pick up d and go I'm heading over there. 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.640 I'm going over there, which one of you was d 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.560 Oh you, I'm sorry, let me give you your key back. 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:44.600 I'm sorry. I don't want that Kike coming up. More 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.280 from Jerry Seinfeld. He's got so many years of stand 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.000 up under his belt. When he travels as he does 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:55.240 most weekends, every move is planned. It is organized with 0:32:55.360 --> 0:33:00.480 military precision, not an ounce of fat. It's found on 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.520 the day. It's three guys, three suits, three garment bags. 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.520 We're in, we're out, and we have a great time. 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.640 We worked very hard. It's zero dark thirty. It is 0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:16.600 you get the lot and go. I thinker put the 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:21.880 dead bodies. It's a beautiful thing. This is what I 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.160 was given from the TV series that I could live 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:30.360 like this now on my own terms. That that's what 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.120 we're looking for on my own terms terms. Right, God, 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.120 that's such a foreign concept to me. Yes, the lack 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.840 of an actor is anything bust acting, but right, but 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.960 this is where we're moving now with Alec God. Yeah, 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:50.720 oh my god, on my own terms. More wisdom from 0:33:50.800 --> 0:34:04.320 Jerry Seinfeld in a moment. This is Alec Baldwin, this 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.239 is alc Old one. When Jerry Seinfeld was ten years old, 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.759 he started feverishly studying the techniques of stand up comedians 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.040 on TV, devouring it everything. That's like, just like my 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.239 daughter does Now, my daughters totally got whatever that gene 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:24.720 I had, She's got it. She can do any voice, accent, 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.600 takes lines. Her brother said to her, this one she's 0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.879 wearing glass. She has glasses. Her brother said, he said, 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.000 are those are those real glasses? She looked at him, 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:44.680 She said, what do you think that's she's twelve, she's 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.640 already she's not ready to go play iron Rand at 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:57.680 the local library and the fake glasses. But um, okay, 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:02.640 so my house, um, I assume my my childhood was 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.759 My relationship to my parents was you do what you 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.120 gotta do. I'll do what I gotta do, and I'm 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.120 just living here untill I can figure something else out. 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.839 That was my house, and to me, that was great. 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.280 We've talked about this. You and I was very independent. 0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.520 My father never hugged me, never told me he loved me, 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:27.239 never threw me a ball. No problem. I'm good. I'm good. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:32.800 I'm good. He's You're good. You do whatever you some 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.800 time together, right? Who was the guy who blew the 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.000 horn in the in the when the tower and the 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.279 tower fell over? Remember at the beginning of each show, 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.000 I forget what was it? Was it Larry? It was 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:47.600 another No, Larry Storch was a garn he was. There 0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:53.000 was another enter, Captain Parmenter. He wasn't really funny. But 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.200 there was another guy, another Larry, who was at the 0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.040 top of the time the tower would fall over. I 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.319 mean he was that very kind of vanilla looking. Yeah, 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.160 it wasn't. It wasn't Larry Wilcox went on to do chips. No, No, 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:10.120 it was another Larry anyway. But yeah, I was Abbert 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.120 and Costello was. I really became obsessed with them because 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:18.479 of the precision word play they were. See, that's where 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.560 they went beyond there was there was Laurel and Hardy 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.320 and then Martin Lewis, but Aben and Costello had this precision. 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:30.719 I mean, who's on first is a piece of It's 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:35.120 like that that museum in Spain, you know, the what 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.400 you know? No, the other one that what's his name? 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.480 Did that? Yeah? Whose real name is Goldberg by the way, 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.680 yes it is, he changed it in college, Frank Frank, Yeah, 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:53.640 the what's the name of that museum in northern Bill Yeah, anyway, 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.080 that's what Who's on first? This it's like, what a construction, 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.120 what a brilliant piece of construction. So and when I 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:05.080 heard things like that. Um, I just would get very 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.040 excited that you could do things like that with words 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:12.080 and ideas and attitudes and and have laughs. You know, 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.040 I have laughs. I remember when I was a kid 0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.520 and my dad would go to work and my brothers 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.120 and sisters would go to school, and my mom was lonely. 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.399 M I probably missed school like thirty or forty days 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:26.000 a year. You did, and it was a game. I 0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:27.520 was totally full of ship. I said to my mom, 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:32.239 I don't feel good. Remember like, all right, you get 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.319 in there and go to the breakfast table and pretend 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.000 you're going to school until your father and then when 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.919 he's gone, you can go back upstairs. And I would 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.480 go and lie on the couch and they would show 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.279 the same movie five days in a row, so the 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.440 housewives who could only catch a piece of it here 0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.200 and a piece so they show Inherit the Wind, And 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.000 by Friday I was laying in bed. I missed school 0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.279 for three days and Friday Spencer Tracy would say, this 0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.040 man wants to be afforded the same rights as a sponge. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.080 He wishes to think, and I my lip sync the words. 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.640 I knew that I'm like the door, I became a 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:09.520 complete movie. So that's where it began. And then when 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.799 we got into the Aaron Spelling years, I abandoned, never 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.080 watched TV again. No Charloie's Angels And now what do 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:20.319 you watch? Uh? Now, come into your house. It's ten 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.439 forty five at night. Everyone's the wife, kids, babies of sleep. 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.040 I'm reading, you're reading, I'm reading on the internet. I read, 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.520 I read up, I read a book, or I read 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.200 The New Yorker. To get me a sleep, reading we 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.799 get fall asleep. But when I watched TV, God, when 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.520 I NFL, I watched Makeup hooements for NFL sixty minutes. 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.880 I watched MSNBC, I watched h I've watched snippets of 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.080 these shows, you know, like Breaking Bad and these contemporary 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.560 you know, these jokes. I don't have time. I don't 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.480 have time. I don't I don't understand either, And I 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.440 don't know where are they finding the time? Did you 0:38:53.600 --> 0:39:00.719 download House to Cards now? Eight hours? It's the first episode. Yeah, 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:03.800 I can't do What are they doing? What kind of 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.480 how long are their days? Well? I always would get that. 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.320 I would always be flattered for a moment. There was 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.200 always a double beat there. When someone would walk up 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.560 to me with Lauren and they woke up, they'd say. 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.839 Lauren would say, you know Dave here, Dave Swanson from 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.279 you know, from Comcast, and I'd go high, nice to 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:19.960 meet you. And he turned to Lauren and go, god, 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.759 you guys, I gotta tell you my son broke his 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.400 leg skiing and he was in bed. He was in traction. 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.200 And we watched seasons two and three of thirty Rock 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.279 and I thought I'd smile, and then I thought, well, 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.000 that's how you get to watch season's two and three three. 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.479 You gotta go and break your leg skiing. You gotta 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.799 go wrap yourself around a tree. Then you can layd 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:40.479 and binge view all this. I don't understand how people 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.719 are fitting this into their day. So there's not even 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.600 one show that's your I really love Madmen because that 0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.520 was my dream growing up on Long Island was to 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.480 get us Sampson I briefcase going along Island Railroad. I 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:53.680 was going to go in the city and I was 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.560 gonna work at a big ad agency and right funny ads. 0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.400 That was my first dream. That was because end up 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.440 comedy that I was seeing on the Sullivan Show. That 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.360 was too far out. That was these are some genius 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.799 alien people. I could never be one of those. I'm 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.400 not gonna get that. But maybe I could be a 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.880 copywriter or or something in the ad game. I love advertising. 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.439 I like I like man I love Manhattan. You remember 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.080 growing up in Massapeko, Manhattan was was oz. It was 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.640 the Emerald City. Tell people when we were kids, there 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:31.240 was no Bergen County correspondent. The Martians could have landed 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.000 out in in in in in Hempstead. No one cared 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.000 that the Martians did land in because they knew there 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.120 were no cameras out there. When you grew up in 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.040 art generation, it was like the mayor announced today of 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.200 the subway. Today, the cops shot on the I n D. 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.680 The prepetated this, the bank robbery, this, and it was 0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.280 all Manhattan, Manhattan, the Garden today, the heavyweight show. Everything 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.680 was Manhattan, not even the other outer boroughs. Right. And 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.600 when you lived at when you lived where we lived, 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:58.759 that was Saskatchewan to the lead. Remember Alan Burke did 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.480 Jeverse Allen Burke. Yes, And they would come up and 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.799 they never correctly estimated the average height of New York 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.479 of the podium was always way too high, Mr Bike, 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.080 I just came in from Mars where the taxi and 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.759 limousine commission there. They would be right back to some 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:21.279 New York issue. So Madman, that is my family said, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.719 when did you cross over and decide I could do 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:28.680 the other thing? Um? It was beginning in college, Queen's College. 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:34.640 What did you study there? Theater, communications, film, all that stuff. 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:39.040 I was, I was circling the field, you know, going 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.120 how do I how could I? I wonder if I could? 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:47.759 You know? Did you decide? Then Andy Kaufman happened. There's 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.880 this guy in New York who goes up on stage 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.920 and he plays the bongos and starts weeping. He's crazy 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.200 to So we all ran in to see Andy Kaufman 0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.120 at the improv. And as soon as I walked in 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.160 that room and I saw what was going on in there, 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.320 I gotta get in on this. Yeah, I want to 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:06.879 be one of these. And when you got up there 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.279 and finally through whatever apprenticeship you had, and when you 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:12.719 got up there and you did that, was here a 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.360 moment where like some guy comes up to you. I 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.560 don't mean to be too Broadway Danny Roses, Yes, there 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.000 was did some guy walcome to and kid, call me 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.440 you got yes, there was you know who that guy was, 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:28.040 Jackie Mason. Jackie Mason alec I was doing comedy about 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:33.680 three weeks. Three weeks and I mean stumbling nobody three weeks. 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.319 I'm nineteen years old, twenty years old of going up 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.120 on stage. But it wasn't even a stage. There was 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:40.799 a restaurant where they take a table out and they 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.279 would take one of the lights, the lamp, and they 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:44.919 would take the shade off it. That was the show. 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.759 He was in the audience people right, was one of 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.920 these cabaret things West forty four Ster was called the 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.359 Golden Lion Pub. He crooks his finger and he says, 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.319 come over here. He takes me over to the bar. 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.879 He says, you have it. He says, you are going 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.680 to be so big. He says, it makes me sick 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.080 to even think of it, how successful you're gonna be. 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:15.480 And I was just starting wow. And that, I mean, 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.680 that was that was it, because he was, like, you know, 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.720 he was very big comedians, still one of my favorites, 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.480 great comedian. But to have a guy like that come 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:28.680 up to you as a kid, I had that. That's 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.279 still you know when I talked to you about I 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.120 went in the improv and I saw all these guys 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.200 and I thought, I want to be one of these guys. 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.440 That's still how I feel now. Was there a moment 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:43.600 when for me one of the real pure joys of 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.759 this business are the people I've gotten to me and 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:48.200 I don't want to, you know, go on and on on. 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.440 But were there people who came to you that were 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.600 like these godlike figures to you? Were you just admired 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.200 them from your world? They came up to you and said, 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.120 hey man, they went to you said it could be 0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.000 it could be Carson across the room out Jack Rollins, 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.000 who I looked up because I saw your movie, which 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:08.960 I loved, Blue Jasmine great, and I see, like Jack 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:13.360 Rollins in the credit, I look, he's still alive. His 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.400 daughter was a waitress at a comedy club on the 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.200 Upper East Side, and she brought him in to see 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.200 me and Larry Miller and Jimmy Broken, and he watched 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:22.600 the three of us, and then he sat and talked 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.719 with us afterwards, and he was very encouraging, very flattering. 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:27.960 That was really big because we were in about a 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.360 year at that point. We didn't know there was no 0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.759 business to get into. Even if we could do this 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.960 didn't even exist. There was no place to work as 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:40.440 a stand up comic in seven didn't even exist. It 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.680 happened in the eighties. Once they were all these guys around. 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.800 Then these clubs started opening around the country. What about 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:50.120 someone else, someone beyond year old man have exist. In 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.840 the credits of a Woody Allen movie, who was some 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:56.600 iconic gave stand up figure. I saw Richard Pryor and 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.520 in those days, um he would come into the clubs 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.239 and we say something to George Carlin. No, never said 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.320 anything to me, but just to meet those people. Was 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.719 there one at some point who other than Mason said 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:12.040 you've got it? Was? No, no, no. If you don't 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:17.560 need that any any self respecting professional comedian, you don't 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.480 need that. You don't need anyone or anything. You are 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:26.000 built for brutality. You have this relationship with the audience 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:31.520 that is private between you and them. You critics want 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.359 to write, people want to talk. We we have our 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:39.680 own thing that nobody, nobody can break that. Once you 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:43.520 build that, it can't be broken by outside forces. This 0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:47.000 is the difference between being a comedian that has his 0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.120 own thing and everybody else in the entertainment field who 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:56.560 needs to cooperate to survive. The comedian that you know, 0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.560 what do I care what somebody writes about my show? 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.560 What do I care? So even doing the series, and 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.960 even knowing I had these other avenues, I could pursue 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.640 that that's so pure and so perfect and so good. 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:15.640 It's not easy. It is a rigorous life to maintain that. 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.320 You know, I don't I don't hang out on stage. 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.120 You've seen the show. I don't hang out. I'm I'm 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.360 I'm up here to work. I'm gonna work for you 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.480 because I respect this relationship and I want to keep it. 0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.040 I want to keep it because once you have that, 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:44.520 you can do what you want. Jerry Seinfeld has meditated 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.520 for over four decades and it shows. He says, it 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:53.480 makes stress float away. I wanted to find out more 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:58.920 about Jerry and meditation, so I called him transcendental meditation. 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.279 That that's what I do t M. And how long 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.520 have you been doing that? Since? Um seventy two? So 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.279 so when did that come into your life? You like 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:12.200 saw a billboard when you were at LA station at 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.440 Oswego State University, where I was seriously rolled because I 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:21.360 couldn't take senior year anymore. So I left high school 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.000 six months early and got into college and left in 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.160 the middle of senior year. Now I know you didn't 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:31.000 do that because you were handsome and the girls were 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:34.279 hanging off of you, and senior year was fantastic for you. 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.400 That's what I know. It was a vending machine of women. 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.840 Was well, it wasn't like that for me, buddy boy, Alright, 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.600 So I thought, I got to get out of here 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.440 and start a new life with people that don't know me. 0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.399 So I went to Oswego and while I was there, 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.320 and I remember, this is a still in the flora 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:59.080 and fauna of sixties experimentalism, so transcendental meditation. Somebody told 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.160 me about it. I don't remember or who, and I thought, well, 0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:03.680 let me see what that's about. And I went to 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.560 the thing and I learned the technique. It cleared up 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:11.200 my acne immediately. I had this great energy and focus, 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:14.279 and I've been doing it the rest of my life. 0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.960 So you sound when you say you learned the technique 0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.360 and clear up your acne and your energy and focus, 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.600 it sounds like you ultimately had the sex that had 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:25.760 been evading you. Up till then before you went to Laswego. 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:27.600 What was it? Correct? So the TM was really a 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:32.040 pathway to two sex? Correct? How can I do it? Like? What? Like? 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:33.960 Where do you do it? You can? You do it anywhere? 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.799 You do it anywhere. I'm going to get you doing 0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:41.960 it now. I want to I want more energy, more 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.279 focused on my acting to clear up. Well, you don't 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.640 need you can't have more energy. You can't even dispose 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.600 of the energy that you have. It's true, but it's 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.040 toxic energy. It's more like a chernobyl than it is 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:56.759 kind of This is a nice energy, really nice. Here's 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.879 how I'll describe it to you. You know, have three 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.560 times a year you wake up and you go, boy, 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.920 that was a really good sleep. Yes, imagine feeling like 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:13.880 that every day. Oh my god, that's what it is. Meditation. 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:19.399 I gotta try that. This is Alec Baldwin and you're 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.000 listening to here's the thing.