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Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Well you please welcome Jerry Steinfeld. Jerry Seinfeld debuted on

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Speaker 1: HBO in It was the same year he first appeared

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Speaker 1: on Johnny Carson. He was twenty seven years old. Nice

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Speaker 1: to be here tonight, A pleasure to be here tonight.

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Speaker 1: Seinfeld's material stood out. It wasn't about his upbringing or

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Speaker 1: personal relationships. It was about our universal experience of everyday things.

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Speaker 1: For John has have got to be the world's funniest clothes?

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Speaker 1: Who designed them to look that way? Like a little

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Speaker 1: tiny suit? Notice little collar button down and a breast pocket.

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Speaker 1: There's a useful item. Is anybody using the breast pocket

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Speaker 1: a John's? Seinfeld asked questions we wished we'd thought of,

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Speaker 1: then he'd answer them with a casual priss vision that

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Speaker 1: seemed to spin comedy out of nothing. In eight years

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Speaker 1: after his HBO debut, he and Larry David created a

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Speaker 1: weekly series that would change both their lives. This is

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Speaker 1: the show, and we're not going to change it. Right,

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Speaker 1: how about this? I managed a Circus Seinfeld brand for

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Speaker 1: nine seasons on NBC. It was a critical and popular success.

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Speaker 1: The show about nothing, as it's been described, challenged some

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Speaker 1: long established laws of mainstream television comedy. It was brilliantly unsentimental.

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Speaker 1: The characters rarely exhibited emotions other than exasperation what was

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Speaker 1: going on and on set, the writers held strongly to

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Speaker 1: a principle they dubbed no hugging, no learning. The seventies

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Speaker 1: six million viewers who watched the series finale waited to

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Speaker 1: see what would happen next to the performers they've grown

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Speaker 1: to love, and even though conventional wisdom predicted spinoffs and sequels,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld went back to stand up and it wasn't easy.

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Speaker 1: All of the stuff I've never said before anyone. So

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Speaker 1: this hoppen has developed to as you say, it's quite painful.

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Speaker 1: He's done a few other projects as well. The latest

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Speaker 1: on the internet is a show called Comedians in Cars

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Speaker 1: Getting Coffee, which combines some of his favorite things, driving

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Speaker 1: while talking to his friends and drinking coffee. It's funny

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Speaker 1: that you picked at Jaguar, because I have a secret

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Speaker 1: love of Jaguars, but I'm not a car person and

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in spending money on cars. And no offense.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld has it figured out. He isn't destroying himself

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Speaker 1: trying to prove something. He isn't tortured by the challenges

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Speaker 1: of his art. He keeps things simple and clear. Take

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Speaker 1: his regular morning routine. When he wakes up. If my

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Speaker 1: wife is up, I like that because I do not

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Speaker 1: like cat pulling around. I want to get up. Let's go, baby.

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Speaker 1: So the first thing I want, yeah, I want, I

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Speaker 1: want sports radio on. And I and I washed, and

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Speaker 1: I run the faucets and I start splashing my face

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Speaker 1: with water like Mace in the hustler like Mace and

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Speaker 1: the how was gonna see more? Like Joan Crawford before

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Speaker 1: she goes in the studio to see Gleeson And the

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Speaker 1: hustler goes into the bathroom splashes his face with water

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Speaker 1: to revive for the next round. I took that. I said,

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Speaker 1: that's great. I'm gonna do that. That's how you face life.

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Speaker 1: Water the water, if I splash water. What if you

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Speaker 1: go on stage? Is that what you do? Do you?

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Speaker 1: After I come off? You come off? When I come off.

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Speaker 1: The hardest thing when you come off is to return

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Speaker 1: to your actual person out. You've blown your personality up

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Speaker 1: to this. You know, joker Jack Nicholson face. And when

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Speaker 1: you come off stage, I gotta go back to me

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Speaker 1: and I need a minute. People try and talk to

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Speaker 1: me when I come off. I can't talk to him.

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Speaker 1: I got I gotta splash some water. I gotta yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got beautiful towels. Give me. That's how I like

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Speaker 1: to start the morning. Shades up radio, sports radio one

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Speaker 1: splashing yes, and then and then what do you have

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Speaker 1: for breakfast? What's breakfast? Oatmeal, hunting and cinnamon. So there's

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Speaker 1: a kind of a military theme. There's a kind of

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Speaker 1: a military base theme. You at home doesn't resemble a

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Speaker 1: military base. I'm not funny. People die, people gonna get hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want me on that stage? You need me on

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Speaker 1: that stage. Is that how you feel? No? No, you

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Speaker 1: don't know what word do you just use to describe

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Speaker 1: what you do? What word do you use? What describes

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Speaker 1: what you do? Well, there's a term for it. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to describe it with another called stand up comedy.

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Speaker 1: Because you call yourself a comic. You don't call yourself

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Speaker 1: an actor. No, I'm not an actor. You're not an actor.

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Speaker 1: I have acted. Have you ever considered doing anything dramatic?

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Speaker 1: Why to what end? Okay, it's just a waste of time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So when when you saw someone like I mean the

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Speaker 1: it was so remarkable his performance, it was breathtaking. He

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Speaker 1: course you do something like that, but that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But that's his movie. Are you grading me? Am? I am?

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Speaker 1: I not getting it right here. I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm just riffing with you, and I'm just saying that,

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Speaker 1: um what I do is um um the only thing

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that there are people that come out on film,

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Speaker 1: into the movie business. And there's some sense that there's

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Speaker 1: but the improvisatory groups. You know, if they come from

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Speaker 1: UCB or Groundlings Corral is a good example, and they

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Speaker 1: come on. And there was an amount of acting that's

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Speaker 1: required when you did your TV show, there was some

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Speaker 1: acting that was required. So but you don't but you

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Speaker 1: gotta act the whole show. But but some saying, so

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Speaker 1: you don't call yourself an actor that you just say

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Speaker 1: I'm a comic. If I'm on the show acting, then

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Speaker 1: i'm acting. I'm I'm a comedian. Okay, I'm a stand

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Speaker 1: up comedian. That's what I call myself. But I can act.

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Speaker 1: I just see the need for it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the world needs me to do that. This is Paul Rudd.

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Speaker 1: What do you need me for? You got you got

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Speaker 1: a guy for that. We got a guy for that

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Speaker 1: who can do Can he do what I'm doing? Can

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Speaker 1: he step into my shoes? Now? There's many people that

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Speaker 1: you know, you probably splashed a lot of water in

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Speaker 1: your face. Is shoot, you're splashing an inordinate amount of

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Speaker 1: really brisk water. It's almost always three splashes. I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling eight or nine splashes. We went on this

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Speaker 1: morning because you're loaded for bear. We're like in a

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Speaker 1: deposition here. I love talking with you. You know that.

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Speaker 1: I love talking with you. Okay, so um? Who makes

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Speaker 1: And it's a change in your lifetime? What does it take?

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Speaker 1: Who's in show business? Let's answer that question, because I

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Speaker 1: the people that just go I want to be in it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be in it. Do I have the

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Speaker 1: skill set? Do I have a talent? I have something

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Speaker 1: to offer? We'll find out or not. But it doesn't

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Speaker 1: I said to him, what do you do when you

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Speaker 1: do a movie and the other person isn't that good?

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Speaker 1: Like you're doing a scene, and I said, you go

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Speaker 1: them this other And said, no, I never do that.

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Speaker 1: I never do that. No, no, no, I said, I said,

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Speaker 1: what do you do? I? I said, what do you

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Speaker 1: do when the people that you're working with they just

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're so talented, and it's like tennis and

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Speaker 1: and they're not that talented. And he said, Alec, Alec.

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Speaker 1: All of us in the business are talented. Everybody's talented.

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Speaker 1: Some of us are just more talented than others. But

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Speaker 1: kind of talent. Like you'd say, he has a talented

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Speaker 1: for storytelling. He had a talent for this. But you

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Speaker 1: You see a lot of that, don't you think? I

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Speaker 1: think so? Well? In the in the movie business, you

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean they're not what business? What what

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Speaker 1: field of endeavor has the highest bullshit factor? Right? In

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Speaker 1: your opinion? Um, because you've been in a number of

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Speaker 1: different branches. Now, well, I think, well, obviously a government

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Speaker 1: is I think entertainment. Did you enjoy the Anthony Weiner

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Speaker 1: us when when that was going on? Did you were

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Speaker 1: the gears and that's what that was. This is you know,

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Speaker 1: guyses and veils and and you know police, well, they

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Speaker 1: pretend that what you just hit on a very important point,

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Speaker 1: which is that they pretend to some degree that it's selfless.

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Speaker 1: That also, yeah, that that they don't crave power. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing about Weener that I found unusual. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: think I'm capable of saying anything that hasn't been said before.

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Speaker 1: But the idea that you want to take pictures of

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Speaker 1: your genitalia and send it to women that you barely know.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's an unconscious part of him that's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send pictures of my genitalia to a couple

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Speaker 1: I got another pile, and I'm all in on sending

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Speaker 1: this chicken picture of my you know what, of my personality.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that desire, right, I'm not exacts. It's

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Speaker 1: easier to understand than his get off was. Ding. He

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Speaker 1: looks at the phone. Ding, let's it just press send.

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Speaker 1: Where where's the thrill? Everybody has a has some component

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Speaker 1: of them for what I call negative excitement, like what's

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Speaker 1: some weakness of yours? You know what I mean? Some

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Speaker 1: people have food issues, they have drinking. Mine would be yours. Uh,

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Speaker 1: don't need to go off into a room and twist

421
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: yourself into some kind of psychological pretzel to do this work.

422
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: If you can just say the words and you're there,

423
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: you feel connected to the character in and of yourself.

424
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: Do you do you have a desire as an actor

425
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: to be one of those guys, one of those I'm

426
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna take my rib cage and separated. When I was younger,

427
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: I did you did when I was younger, I did

428
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: did you feel you there was there was there a

429
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: role where you felt you got close? Tonight, when I

430
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: did street Car named Desire on Broadway and Amy Madigan,

431
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: I would scream Stella, stella for her to come downstairs

432
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: and Amy would come in. The minute I would touch Amy,

433
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: I'd burst into tears. And remember I didn't I loved

434
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Amy more than any woman I ever loved, you know,

435
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: at that moment, I mean and it was real, right,

436
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: I was in love with Amy. Do you think I'm

437
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: capable of that kind of work? I think you are.

438
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: It would be a tremendous mistake your car, it would

439
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: be a huge would be one of the poorest choices

440
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: probably in show business history, for you to go and

441
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: to say, you want to know, what do you want

442
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: to do? A street car on um. I was in

443
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: an acting class with a guy did have me play Brick.

444
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: But that's kind of know how tin roof He because

445
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: I was able to handle the light comedy so easily.

446
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: He said, you, I need to challenge you more. So

447
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: he had me. Then he said, I want you to

448
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: study the role of Brick. Wasn't that the name of

449
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: the character, And yeah, Maggie and Brick. Yeah. Well that's

450
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: when I left that. There's a girl I could you'll

451
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: you'll appreciate this because you're from Long Island. And I

452
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: met this woman, uh many years later, and even she

453
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: laughed about it. So I can say this, remember Pergament's

454
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: hardware storm. Okay, I went to I went to college.

455
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: I went to g W for three years and I

456
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: went and I took my last year there, my junior

457
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: year before I climbed over the wall there and went

458
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: to end. While you to study acting, I took acting

459
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: for non drama majors. It was a gut course you

460
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: take at GW. I took acting for non drama majors.

461
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: And everyone in the class this was one of the

462
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: things that gave me the the impetus to be an

463
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: actor because everyone in the class was so horrible and

464
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: I could, I could. I squeaked by like I wasn't

465
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: that bad. I was okay in terms of performing. And

466
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: the teacher said to me, I want you to do

467
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: a scene from Canta huntin roof of Maggie Brick scene.

468
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: And your partner is Debbie Pergament, who was the daughter

469
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: and then I don't want to call her the heir

470
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: to the Pergaman fortune, but let's just say that for

471
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: our comedy purposes, Debbie Pergaman and literally she was this

472
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: lovely girl, adorable, gorgeous, really cute as the day is long.

473
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: But she was from you know, like rosalind or somewhere.

474
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: So when she would say she was the only person

475
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: who made brick a bicyllabic where she was like a

476
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: brick brick, I am like a cat's on a Hudson

477
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: roof here, I am so upset. Debbie Pergmant was with

478
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: my partner in a scene study class and it was

479
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: it was eye opening. So where do we want to

480
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: go now? Your your career now? Um you you you're

481
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: seeing another corridor for yourself. Is something you want to explore,

482
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: something you have to offer or be honest with me.

483
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Are you just tired and you just don't want to

484
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: travel and shlap and deal with these idiots you want

485
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: to know? The truth is I want to be more

486
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: like you, really, because you are either re happy, Like

487
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: I look at you when I see to myself, everything

488
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: is always like why aren't you doing what other people do? What? Meaning?

489
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: Like the first thing people would say in the business,

490
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean even outside the business, if they have some

491
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: savvy about it, what they say, did Jerry want to

492
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: ramp up a production company and just print TV shows?

493
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how many sitcoms could you have launched with

494
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: the infra mater of your name, forget it, forget it.

495
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: You could have your own channel, the Jerry Channel. But

496
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: I didn't take that bait. Why because I know what

497
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: it is. I know what it is. That's why you

498
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: can't pull that over on me. What what is? I've

499
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: sat in all the chairs, I've been in all the rooms.

500
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: I know what it is. Look Alec you you've you've

501
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: been there right, Yes, you can't trick me into thinking

502
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: thinking what that's good? That's why, because don't. Most of

503
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: it is not native work and not reaching an audience.

504
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: You want to be on the water. How do you

505
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: want to be on the water. You want to be

506
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: on a yacht. You want to be on a surfboard.

507
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: I want to be on a surfboard. I don't want

508
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: to deal with the yacht. That's a yacht. And you

509
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: just also some people want a yacht to say, to

510
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: see my yacht, And you just didn't want people do you,

511
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: And you also didn't want to ultimately wind up putting

512
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: your name as is often the case. Look at which

513
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: if you're the goose that lays the golden egg, you're

514
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: the successful person and it all emanates you're the godhead

515
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: if you will comedy wise, and you go launch all

516
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: these other shows, and all those other shows they aren't

517
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: maybe as good, And how much of your well, why

518
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: doesn't he want to do it? How much would have

519
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: to even for much for you to be in there,

520
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: for ones of you just to put whatever it is, yeah,

521
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Let me tell you why my TV

522
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: series in the nineties was so good besides an inordinate

523
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: amount of just pure good fortune. And most TV series,

524
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time is spent working on the show,

525
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time is spent dealing with personality, political,

526
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: and hierarchical issues of making something. We spent our time

527
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: writing me and Larry the door was closed, some somebody calls.

528
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: We're not taking the call. We're gonna We're gonna make

529
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: this seem funny. That's why the show was good. I

530
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: didn't want to go from that two. Um you know

531
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: some some H. G. Wells contraption machine you know of

532
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: of trying to control the weather. That's what That's what

533
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: these these deals are. That's what making a movie is.

534
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: What's a movie. It's this giant machine, is this giant ship,

535
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: and everybody gets on it and they shove off and

536
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: nobody knows where it's going, and the captain is doing

537
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: where's the captain's he's getting high and and and and

538
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, and sleeping with the first mate. Period. Yeah,

539
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: so it's too much time and energy spent. That is

540
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: not the juice. The really good stuff is a great line.

541
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: So when when you go out a stand up comedian,

542
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: I can control that. So when you go out on

543
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: stage now, so for now, for you, other than whatever

544
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: other things you're involved with, writing or comedians and cars

545
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: with coffee and so forth, you go out on stage,

546
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: you perform live. How many shows you do on average?

547
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Would you say, I'm not sure. It varies, but you're

548
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: on the road how many? How many shows a year? Um?

549
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Maybe seventy so so you do seventy five appearances a year.

550
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: And is it just very simply a case where you

551
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: walk out there, that exchange of energy between you and them.

552
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: They want what you've got, you want what they've got.

553
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: You're at home, you feel comfortable, you're happy. It's a

554
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a very fulfilling, uh unsolvable puzzle

555
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: that is endlessly um it just because it goes right

556
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: to your soul. Does every night need to be different

557
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: if you can make it, so do you try to

558
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: make it different that there's nothing I can do about that.

559
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be different. It's gonna be different. But if

560
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: I can get him right where I want them and

561
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: and get myself where I want myself, and the thing

562
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: just explodes, well, you know, it's fun. That's life. People

563
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: who perform live. I'll never forget. There was an article

564
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: like an Esquire magazine or somewhere, and they did an

565
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: article about Wayne Newton and they took it was about Vegas,

566
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: and I think it was about Wayne Newton, and I

567
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: love this article. And they weren't mean towards him, were

568
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: diminishing him, and they were saying how they thought it

569
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: was uncanny how the guy went to the show in

570
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Vegas with a stopwatch and Newton came out and he

571
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: did the same thing every show, the same exact thing,

572
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: the same exact beats. It was just it was just

573
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: he just cloned one show after that and he would

574
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: come out, but he would create the dynamic tension that

575
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: this show was different, and he come out on stage

576
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: and people will be screaming, and the women are throwing

577
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: their panties and they're throwing their hotel room keys, had

578
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: him his crowd, and then he sit there and he'd say, um, um,

579
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta we gotta wrap this up. But

580
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: you know I love you people. I'm gonna do someth

581
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sing a song I never sing anymore. And

582
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: the song he just sang, like you know, ninety minutes ago,

583
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: I singing number for you guys, I've never sing anymore.

584
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I never would never break this one out anymore. And

585
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: he just re created the same, uh you know, mock

586
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: freshness of the whole thing, which many performers. I assume

587
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: they do that. Yeah, he used to say, tell him

588
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: locked the doors. They don't want me to go long.

589
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: But but this audience, I don't remember. I don't. I'm

590
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: gonna do something for you never I'm breaking the rules. Yeah,

591
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: and of course you wouldn't right on the button. You

592
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: performed in Vegas all the time. So they throw the

593
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: hotel room key. How desperate is this entertainer, by the way,

594
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: to just pick up d and go I'm heading over there.

595
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm going over there, which one of you was d

596
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh you, I'm sorry, let me give you your key back.

597
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't want that Kike coming up. More

598
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: from Jerry Seinfeld. He's got so many years of stand

599
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: up under his belt. When he travels as he does

600
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: most weekends, every move is planned. It is organized with

601
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: military precision, not an ounce of fat. It's found on

602
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: the day. It's three guys, three suits, three garment bags.

603
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: We're in, we're out, and we have a great time.

604
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: We worked very hard. It's zero dark thirty. It is

605
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: you get the lot and go. I thinker put the

606
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: dead bodies. It's a beautiful thing. This is what I

607
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: was given from the TV series that I could live

608
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: like this now on my own terms. That that's what

609
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: we're looking for on my own terms terms. Right, God,

610
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: that's such a foreign concept to me. Yes, the lack

611
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: of an actor is anything bust acting, but right, but

612
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: this is where we're moving now with Alec God. Yeah,

613
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, on my own terms. More wisdom from

614
00:33:50,800 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld in a moment. This is Alec Baldwin, this

615
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: is alc Old one. When Jerry Seinfeld was ten years old,

616
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: he started feverishly studying the techniques of stand up comedians

617
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: on TV, devouring it everything. That's like, just like my

618
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: daughter does Now, my daughters totally got whatever that gene

619
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: I had, She's got it. She can do any voice, accent,

620
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: takes lines. Her brother said to her, this one she's

621
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: wearing glass. She has glasses. Her brother said, he said,

622
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: are those are those real glasses? She looked at him,

623
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: She said, what do you think that's she's twelve, she's

624
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: already she's not ready to go play iron Rand at

625
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: the local library and the fake glasses. But um, okay,

626
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: so my house, um, I assume my my childhood was

627
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: My relationship to my parents was you do what you

628
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: gotta do. I'll do what I gotta do, and I'm

629
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: just living here untill I can figure something else out.

630
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: That was my house, and to me, that was great.

631
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: We've talked about this. You and I was very independent.

632
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: My father never hugged me, never told me he loved me,

633
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: never threw me a ball. No problem. I'm good. I'm good.

634
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm good. He's You're good. You do whatever you some

635
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: time together, right? Who was the guy who blew the

636
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: horn in the in the when the tower and the

637
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: tower fell over? Remember at the beginning of each show,

638
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I forget what was it? Was it Larry? It was

639
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: another No, Larry Storch was a garn he was. There

640
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: was another enter, Captain Parmenter. He wasn't really funny. But

641
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: there was another guy, another Larry, who was at the

642
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: top of the time the tower would fall over. I

643
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: mean he was that very kind of vanilla looking. Yeah,

644
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't Larry Wilcox went on to do chips. No, No,

645
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: it was another Larry anyway. But yeah, I was Abbert

646
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: and Costello was. I really became obsessed with them because

647
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 1: of the precision word play they were. See, that's where

648
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: they went beyond there was there was Laurel and Hardy

649
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: and then Martin Lewis, but Aben and Costello had this precision.

650
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean, who's on first is a piece of It's

651
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: like that that museum in Spain, you know, the what

652
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: you know? No, the other one that what's his name?

653
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Did that? Yeah? Whose real name is Goldberg by the way,

654
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: yes it is, he changed it in college, Frank Frank, Yeah,

655
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: the what's the name of that museum in northern Bill Yeah, anyway,

656
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: that's what Who's on first? This it's like, what a construction,

657
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: what a brilliant piece of construction. So and when I

658
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: heard things like that. Um, I just would get very

659
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: excited that you could do things like that with words

660
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: and ideas and attitudes and and have laughs. You know,

661
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: I have laughs. I remember when I was a kid

662
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: and my dad would go to work and my brothers

663
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: and sisters would go to school, and my mom was lonely.

664
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: M I probably missed school like thirty or forty days

665
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: a year. You did, and it was a game. I

666
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: was totally full of ship. I said to my mom,

667
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't feel good. Remember like, all right, you get

668
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: in there and go to the breakfast table and pretend

669
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: you're going to school until your father and then when

670
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: he's gone, you can go back upstairs. And I would

671
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: go and lie on the couch and they would show

672
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: the same movie five days in a row, so the

673
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: housewives who could only catch a piece of it here

674
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: and a piece so they show Inherit the Wind, And

675
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: by Friday I was laying in bed. I missed school

676
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: for three days and Friday Spencer Tracy would say, this

677
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: man wants to be afforded the same rights as a sponge.

678
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: He wishes to think, and I my lip sync the words.

679
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I knew that I'm like the door, I became a

680
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: complete movie. So that's where it began. And then when

681
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: we got into the Aaron Spelling years, I abandoned, never

682
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: watched TV again. No Charloie's Angels And now what do

683
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: you watch? Uh? Now, come into your house. It's ten

684
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: forty five at night. Everyone's the wife, kids, babies of sleep.

685
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm reading, you're reading, I'm reading on the internet. I read,

686
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: I read up, I read a book, or I read

687
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: The New Yorker. To get me a sleep, reading we

688
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: get fall asleep. But when I watched TV, God, when

689
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: I NFL, I watched Makeup hooements for NFL sixty minutes.

690
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: I watched MSNBC, I watched h I've watched snippets of

691
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: these shows, you know, like Breaking Bad and these contemporary

692
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, these jokes. I don't have time. I don't

693
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: have time. I don't I don't understand either, And I

694
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: don't know where are they finding the time? Did you

695
00:38:53,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: download House to Cards now? Eight hours? It's the first episode. Yeah,

696
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: I can't do What are they doing? What kind of

697
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: how long are their days? Well? I always would get that.

698
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: I would always be flattered for a moment. There was

699
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: always a double beat there. When someone would walk up

700
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: to me with Lauren and they woke up, they'd say.

701
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: Lauren would say, you know Dave here, Dave Swanson from

702
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, from Comcast, and I'd go high, nice to

703
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: meet you. And he turned to Lauren and go, god,

704
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: you guys, I gotta tell you my son broke his

705
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: leg skiing and he was in bed. He was in traction.

706
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: And we watched seasons two and three of thirty Rock

707
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: and I thought I'd smile, and then I thought, well,

708
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: that's how you get to watch season's two and three three.

709
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: You gotta go and break your leg skiing. You gotta

710
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: go wrap yourself around a tree. Then you can layd

711
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: and binge view all this. I don't understand how people

712
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: are fitting this into their day. So there's not even

713
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: one show that's your I really love Madmen because that

714
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: was my dream growing up on Long Island was to

715
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: get us Sampson I briefcase going along Island Railroad. I

716
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: was going to go in the city and I was

717
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna work at a big ad agency and right funny ads.

718
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: That was my first dream. That was because end up

719
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: comedy that I was seeing on the Sullivan Show. That

720
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: was too far out. That was these are some genius

721
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: alien people. I could never be one of those. I'm

722
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: not gonna get that. But maybe I could be a

723
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: copywriter or or something in the ad game. I love advertising.

724
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: I like I like man I love Manhattan. You remember

725
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: growing up in Massapeko, Manhattan was was oz. It was

726
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: the Emerald City. Tell people when we were kids, there

727
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: was no Bergen County correspondent. The Martians could have landed

728
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: out in in in in in Hempstead. No one cared

729
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: that the Martians did land in because they knew there

730
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: were no cameras out there. When you grew up in

731
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: art generation, it was like the mayor announced today of

732
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: the subway. Today, the cops shot on the I n D.

733
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: The prepetated this, the bank robbery, this, and it was

734
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: all Manhattan, Manhattan, the Garden today, the heavyweight show. Everything

735
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: was Manhattan, not even the other outer boroughs. Right. And

736
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: when you lived at when you lived where we lived,

737
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: that was Saskatchewan to the lead. Remember Alan Burke did

738
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: Jeverse Allen Burke. Yes, And they would come up and

739
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: they never correctly estimated the average height of New York

740
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: of the podium was always way too high, Mr Bike,

741
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I just came in from Mars where the taxi and

742
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: limousine commission there. They would be right back to some

743
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: New York issue. So Madman, that is my family said,

744
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: when did you cross over and decide I could do

745
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: the other thing? Um? It was beginning in college, Queen's College.

746
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: What did you study there? Theater, communications, film, all that stuff.

747
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I was, I was circling the field, you know, going

748
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: how do I how could I? I wonder if I could?

749
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: You know? Did you decide? Then Andy Kaufman happened. There's

750
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: this guy in New York who goes up on stage

751
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: and he plays the bongos and starts weeping. He's crazy

752
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: to So we all ran in to see Andy Kaufman

753
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: at the improv. And as soon as I walked in

754
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: that room and I saw what was going on in there,

755
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: I gotta get in on this. Yeah, I want to

756
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: be one of these. And when you got up there

757
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: and finally through whatever apprenticeship you had, and when you

758
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: got up there and you did that, was here a

759
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: moment where like some guy comes up to you. I

760
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: don't mean to be too Broadway Danny Roses, Yes, there

761
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: was did some guy walcome to and kid, call me

762
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: you got yes, there was you know who that guy was,

763
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Jackie Mason. Jackie Mason alec I was doing comedy about

764
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: three weeks. Three weeks and I mean stumbling nobody three weeks.

765
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm nineteen years old, twenty years old of going up

766
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: on stage. But it wasn't even a stage. There was

767
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: a restaurant where they take a table out and they

768
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: would take one of the lights, the lamp, and they

769
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: would take the shade off it. That was the show.

770
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: He was in the audience people right, was one of

771
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: these cabaret things West forty four Ster was called the

772
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: Golden Lion Pub. He crooks his finger and he says,

773
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: come over here. He takes me over to the bar.

774
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: He says, you have it. He says, you are going

775
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: to be so big. He says, it makes me sick

776
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: to even think of it, how successful you're gonna be.

777
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: And I was just starting wow. And that, I mean,

778
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: that was that was it, because he was, like, you know,

779
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: he was very big comedians, still one of my favorites,

780
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: great comedian. But to have a guy like that come

781
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: up to you as a kid, I had that. That's

782
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: still you know when I talked to you about I

783
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: went in the improv and I saw all these guys

784
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: and I thought, I want to be one of these guys.

785
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: That's still how I feel now. Was there a moment

786
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: when for me one of the real pure joys of

787
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: this business are the people I've gotten to me and

788
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, go on and on on.

789
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: But were there people who came to you that were

790
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: like these godlike figures to you? Were you just admired

791
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: them from your world? They came up to you and said,

792
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: hey man, they went to you said it could be

793
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: it could be Carson across the room out Jack Rollins,

794
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: who I looked up because I saw your movie, which

795
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: I loved, Blue Jasmine great, and I see, like Jack

796
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: Rollins in the credit, I look, he's still alive. His

797
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: daughter was a waitress at a comedy club on the

798
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Upper East Side, and she brought him in to see

799
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: me and Larry Miller and Jimmy Broken, and he watched

800
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: the three of us, and then he sat and talked

801
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: with us afterwards, and he was very encouraging, very flattering.

802
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: That was really big because we were in about a

803
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: year at that point. We didn't know there was no

804
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: business to get into. Even if we could do this

805
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: didn't even exist. There was no place to work as

806
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: a stand up comic in seven didn't even exist. It

807
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: happened in the eighties. Once they were all these guys around.

808
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: Then these clubs started opening around the country. What about

809
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: someone else, someone beyond year old man have exist. In

810
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: the credits of a Woody Allen movie, who was some

811
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: iconic gave stand up figure. I saw Richard Pryor and

812
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: in those days, um he would come into the clubs

813
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: and we say something to George Carlin. No, never said

814
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: anything to me, but just to meet those people. Was

815
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: there one at some point who other than Mason said

816
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: you've got it? Was? No, no, no. If you don't

817
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: need that any any self respecting professional comedian, you don't

818
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: need that. You don't need anyone or anything. You are

819
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: built for brutality. You have this relationship with the audience

820
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: that is private between you and them. You critics want

821
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: to write, people want to talk. We we have our

822
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: own thing that nobody, nobody can break that. Once you

823
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: build that, it can't be broken by outside forces. This

824
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: is the difference between being a comedian that has his

825
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: own thing and everybody else in the entertainment field who

826
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: needs to cooperate to survive. The comedian that you know,

827
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: what do I care what somebody writes about my show?

828
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: What do I care? So even doing the series, and

829
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: even knowing I had these other avenues, I could pursue

830
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: that that's so pure and so perfect and so good.

831
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not easy. It is a rigorous life to maintain that.

832
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I don't hang out on stage.

833
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: You've seen the show. I don't hang out. I'm I'm

834
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm up here to work. I'm gonna work for you

835
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: because I respect this relationship and I want to keep it.

836
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I want to keep it because once you have that,

837
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: you can do what you want. Jerry Seinfeld has meditated

838
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: for over four decades and it shows. He says, it

839
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: makes stress float away. I wanted to find out more

840
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: about Jerry and meditation, so I called him transcendental meditation.

841
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: That that's what I do t M. And how long

842
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: have you been doing that? Since? Um seventy two? So

843
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: so when did that come into your life? You like

844
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: saw a billboard when you were at LA station at

845
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: Oswego State University, where I was seriously rolled because I

846
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: couldn't take senior year anymore. So I left high school

847
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: six months early and got into college and left in

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00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the middle of senior year. Now I know you didn't

849
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: do that because you were handsome and the girls were

850
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: hanging off of you, and senior year was fantastic for you.

851
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: That's what I know. It was a vending machine of women.

852
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: Was well, it wasn't like that for me, buddy boy, Alright,

853
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: So I thought, I got to get out of here

854
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: and start a new life with people that don't know me.

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00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: So I went to Oswego and while I was there,

856
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: and I remember, this is a still in the flora

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00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: and fauna of sixties experimentalism, so transcendental meditation. Somebody told

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Speaker 1: me about it. I don't remember or who, and I thought, well,

859
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: let me see what that's about. And I went to

860
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: the thing and I learned the technique. It cleared up

861
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: my acne immediately. I had this great energy and focus,

862
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: and I've been doing it the rest of my life.

863
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: So you sound when you say you learned the technique

864
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: and clear up your acne and your energy and focus,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you ultimately had the sex that had

866
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: been evading you. Up till then before you went to Laswego.

867
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Speaker 1: What was it? Correct? So the TM was really a

868
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: pathway to two sex? Correct? How can I do it? Like? What? Like?

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00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Where do you do it? You can? You do it anywhere?

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00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: You do it anywhere. I'm going to get you doing

871
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: it now. I want to I want more energy, more

872
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: focused on my acting to clear up. Well, you don't

873
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: need you can't have more energy. You can't even dispose

874
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: of the energy that you have. It's true, but it's

875
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: toxic energy. It's more like a chernobyl than it is

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00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: kind of This is a nice energy, really nice. Here's

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00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: how I'll describe it to you. You know, have three

878
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: times a year you wake up and you go, boy,

879
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: that was a really good sleep. Yes, imagine feeling like

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00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: that every day. Oh my god, that's what it is. Meditation.

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00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: I gotta try that. This is Alec Baldwin and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to here's the thing.