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Speaker 1: So many people have really been trying to give me

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Speaker 1: to do a gospel record for so many years, and

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Speaker 1: Thank you for you said that I can touch you

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Speaker 1: when I'm singing with my hands. Thank you. See I

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Speaker 1: You're listening to money making conversations to for Sean McDonald

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Speaker 1: and you're listening to money making conversation. We changed lives

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Speaker 1: over here. Entrepreneurship, entertainment. That is what we promote. That's

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Speaker 1: our brand as the reason you should be listening every

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Speaker 1: time this show cracks the mic. My next guest, she's

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Speaker 1: on the phone. I met her at the Black College Expo.

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Speaker 1: We're just walking around with my program director Adele and uh.

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Speaker 1: We saw her and she had a booth set up

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Speaker 1: and she was marketing her wares to the college crowd,

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Speaker 1: the high schoolers who about to go to call, letting

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Speaker 1: them know. And that's what you have to do as

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. She's a licensed real estate agent in Texas

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Speaker 1: for more than twenty years. She also owns as we

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Speaker 1: said owner and designed a lofty bed skirts that's what

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Speaker 1: she had at the College Expo in Atlanta, Georgia. So

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Speaker 1: she's used it, so she was in the Atlanta marketing this.

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Speaker 1: It's a simple new twist on a classic accessory. Her

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Speaker 1: bed skirts will hire college dum room clutter underneath the bed.

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Speaker 1: What sets Lofty bed skirts apart is the patent of

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Speaker 1: twelve panel design that not only conceals but allows for

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Speaker 1: easy access. She showed that to me too. Let me

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Speaker 1: show you the patent. She flipped it back and flipped

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Speaker 1: it back and went, WHOA I did? I did that

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Speaker 1: van of white will and uh, this u S pattern

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Speaker 1: was approved in December. Don't go out there and steal it.

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Speaker 1: This lady has her think patent and it's been patented

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Speaker 1: and Lofty Best Skirts. It's also available online. Please work

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Speaker 1: on the money making conversation, Xena Bussade. You know I

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Speaker 1: laid you out in that interview and that in the intro.

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Speaker 1: I know that. I know that because you are a

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Speaker 1: business entrepreneur and people need to know who you are

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Speaker 1: and I've learned that. You know, I met you. I

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Speaker 1: met you and um Atlanta and you were selling your

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Speaker 1: your bed skirts and it's called why how did this

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Speaker 1: idea come about. And I'm gonna let you know that

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Speaker 1: by broadcast on Serious XM Channel one for the one

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Speaker 1: which is Howard University, and also broadcast on Serious XM

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Speaker 1: Channel one for the two which HBCU campuses. So know

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Speaker 1: that your audience that you're trying to sell to is listening.

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Speaker 1: And also I'm altion you know Busy Love of Naty

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Speaker 1: listening to. So do your things. So this show us

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Speaker 1: about you. This your opportunity to put your put your

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Speaker 1: put you put your stamp, as they said, the stamp

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Speaker 1: on all lofty bed skirts. And let me let you

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Speaker 1: know that as we speak, I am at the University

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Speaker 1: of Houston, which I believe is your all mamrs. We

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Speaker 1: just get around, We just get around. Now what you're

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Speaker 1: going over Universe Houston? What's happening over there? They have

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Speaker 1: their new student orientations this morning, So again I am

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Speaker 1: here with my UH display set up and and have

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Speaker 1: information available for all the students as they come in

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Speaker 1: as they get ready for their new activities and called

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Speaker 1: careers for the two thousand eighteen for a year. But

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Speaker 1: let me tell you how I got this started back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight when my daughter began college

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Speaker 1: at Sam Houston University. You know, as a proud parent,

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Speaker 1: I'm all excited. Like most proud parents, we have no

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Speaker 1: idea what all they need is start school. And we

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Speaker 1: went to visit her dorm room. And the dorm rooms,

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Speaker 1: of course are very small, but they're not designed to

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Speaker 1: house everything that the kids have at home. So there

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Speaker 1: you need. Uh. The beds are just thirty four inches

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Speaker 1: in height, allow for storage underneath, but yourt typical bed

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Speaker 1: skirt does not conceal, doesn't go to the floor. So

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Speaker 1: all the things that your kids are are forced to

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Speaker 1: put under that bed to hide or the store as

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Speaker 1: exposed to their roommates whoever might come visit, or what

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Speaker 1: have you now, and also the students, you know, all

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Speaker 1: that things that are exposed, and you can't concentrate on

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Speaker 1: your studies because you've got all this jook and all

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Speaker 1: this clutter. So our bed skirts are designed to go

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Speaker 1: to the floor. I designed this for my door in

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Speaker 1: two thousand eight when she went to school. So when

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Speaker 1: usually designed Okay, let's slow down there. What does your design?

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Speaker 1: What is what? How do you design something for your daughter,

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Speaker 1: you know, or you or you your your seamstress, or

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Speaker 1: you know somebody who can sew. How did that come about? Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a seamstress, but I can sew a straight lines.

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Speaker 1: So I made her, you know, I made her for her.

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Speaker 1: And what you know, God gave me the vision of

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Speaker 1: the best skirt, you know, going to the floor. But

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Speaker 1: not only does the best skirt go to the floor,

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Speaker 1: it has five panels on each end. Because I wanted

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Speaker 1: her to be able to get to her things that

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Speaker 1: were stored under the bed, you know, quick and easy

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Speaker 1: because you're running in, gotta run out to go to

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Speaker 1: class without listening up the whole entower beds right, because

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Speaker 1: you know, you didn't want to just just flip one

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Speaker 1: massive flip over. You're not to worry about you just

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Speaker 1: look on one raise one pound, ain't there? Raise that pound?

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Speaker 1: Is ain't there? Raise the middle pound? There you go,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Whether it's something at the end of

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Speaker 1: the bed or the middle of the bed or the

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Speaker 1: head of the bed, doesn't matter where you need to

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Speaker 1: get to. You can get to it quick and easy

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Speaker 1: and grab it and run out the room and go

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Speaker 1: to class. Tennessee, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Alabama, Georgia, all those

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Speaker 1: schools over there, they're just crazy about each other. So

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to bring you back. I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to be I'm a fan of

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Speaker 1: what you're doing because you're a young entrepreneur. Tell everybody

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Speaker 1: how they can buy your product online. You can hit

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Speaker 1: o f t y bet skirts dot com. I just

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Speaker 1: Rashanne McDonald. You're listening to money making conversations. Look, we're

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Speaker 1: having a great show today. Matthew Knows has called in.

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Speaker 1: My next guest has no stop signs. You know. I

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Speaker 1: ran it to him by eight months ago. I was

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Speaker 1: so impressed with him as a chef and his energy

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Speaker 1: that every Saturday on my Facebook, on my Facebook, he

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Speaker 1: posted a video of him cooking something. That's how much

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Speaker 1: I believe in his talents. Is at nine a m.

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Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time on my Facebook, and I got almost

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Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand followers. So it's not like what follows

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Speaker 1: you got on your Facebook. Now, I got eight hundred thous.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of people wants to like Rashawn McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is of a James Beard Honors celebrity

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Speaker 1: TV chef and best selling cookbook author, best known from

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Speaker 1: numerous Food Network shows over the last nine years. Chef

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Speaker 1: Wanted Food Network star on a two time one on

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Speaker 1: Cutthrow Kitchen, and he's currently starting in a new season

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Speaker 1: of Comeback Kitchen. Come Back Kitchen. Please welcome to Money

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Speaker 1: Name Conversation. Chieffer Wealth got well, I've gotten man, I

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Speaker 1: tell the story. I've learned that man. You know you've

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Speaker 1: got to let people know what's going on. Why Why

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Speaker 1: is it important to talk to the chef, your well

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Speaker 1: well thought of all he s Maybe you just cause

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Speaker 1: you cook it and you cut you you a lot

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Speaker 1: of people to think it on my nerves. You know

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Speaker 1: they can do something. They can do a little cag

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Speaker 1: You know people always stop me, I can, I can,

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Speaker 1: I'll bake you or you on TV. Let's stop this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Just somebody puts you on TV. You ain't out baking me, okay,

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Speaker 1: So you can you can tell. You know what you

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Speaker 1: do with that baker now they're putting you can tell,

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Speaker 1: but do it that pound cake? But are you doing

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Speaker 1: it on TV? That's what you do? Share, don't do

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Speaker 1: it on TV? And been doing it for the past

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Speaker 1: nine years and don't can tell us about Comeback Kitchen. Man,

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Speaker 1: just on the Food Network on Sunday nights. You in

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Speaker 1: the competition, Man, I've been watching it the first week. Man,

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Speaker 1: you look shaky, Man, I look shaky, things like they're

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Speaker 1: about to boot you off the show. I've always got,

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Speaker 1: always got everybody out the end that they see. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's one of the major things about Comeback Kitchen is

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Speaker 1: I'm a competitive chef and that's what I've been doing

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Speaker 1: for the pass nine years on Food Network is competing

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Speaker 1: in their shows, and that's one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: they keep bringing me back, not only doing how the

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Speaker 1: entertainment is, but I actually know what I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: when it comes to food and cooking great food because

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Speaker 1: it's about that. To come Back Kitchen, it's one of

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Speaker 1: those shows whether they're taking the from the highest rated

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Speaker 1: seasons and that really has the entertainment planning. They're bringing

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Speaker 1: us back to battle again teach other for another opportunity

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Speaker 1: to own Food Network Stop. What's the what's the goal

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Speaker 1: for you in this business of doing celebrity cooking and

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Speaker 1: also your cater you You make appearances at different festivals

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Speaker 1: around the world. You know, you just came off the

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Speaker 1: tom joined the cruise. You're going down to Ess Music Festival.

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Speaker 1: I should just says festival. Uh and cooking showing your wares.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So what's the goal? What's the end goal

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Speaker 1: for you? Sure if you've got books out there, you

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Speaker 1: got seasoning on the shelves of a major grocery store,

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Speaker 1: what's the goal? Man? I'm lucky I'm talking to you. Man.

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Speaker 1: You might fry me up having to having somebody like

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Speaker 1: you in my corner. That tells me that I don't

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Speaker 1: win it. And I got the favorite God for me

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Speaker 1: most importantly, But my my ultimate goal at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day is to be a household name. I

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Speaker 1: want to be just like the the body plays, the

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Speaker 1: Emerald of God see us all of those. I want

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Speaker 1: to have a household name where everyone knows what's who's chefting,

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Speaker 1: he is, what he does, and everyone wants to cook

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Speaker 1: something that Chef Denard and my ultimately in game, it's

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Speaker 1: the it's the one they have my own show, so

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Speaker 1: I can open up my household and let people see

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Speaker 1: what it's like a day a day with Chef Denard

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Speaker 1: on every day with Chef Denard. Rather, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you my favorite show on it's The Pioneer Woman. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if anybody wants that that woman. You know,

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Speaker 1: she's so engaging and genuine and and those those are

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Speaker 1: the ones that I model myself after when people watch

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Speaker 1: me on shows like come Back Kids and Cut Through Kids,

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Speaker 1: and why they why they're so engaged with me is

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Speaker 1: because I'm that guy that you know, I'm that unhole,

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Speaker 1: that covenant brother, that father, whatever it is. And I

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Speaker 1: go on there and I just give the people just

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Speaker 1: who I am, genuinely. I don't put on the facade.

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Speaker 1: I'm this country guy originally from Mississippi that's only here

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Speaker 1: that loves now. That's that's really great because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, we would look at these people,

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Speaker 1: the Bobby Flays, you look at the Rachel Raise, you know,

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Speaker 1: these people like there a lot of celebrities of TV

647
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Speaker 1: now are moving into the cooking arena and because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's something cool. But when I look

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Speaker 1: at your your special talent, I'm not gonna I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna just say that because I put you on Facebook

651
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Speaker 1: and you are a very special talent because you casually

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Speaker 1: do what you do, and that means you do it

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Speaker 1: effort lely. That's why I love the Pioneer Woman. I

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Speaker 1: watched that woman. She's talking and she's mixing stuff. I'm going,

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Speaker 1: is that woman they're watching what she know story and

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Speaker 1: she's just talking away because that's what she do. That's

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Speaker 1: how passion, that's how gift. It's like Michael Jordan dunking

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Speaker 1: a basketball. Would anybody doubt that Michael Jordan can't talk

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Speaker 1: a basketball even now? He could probably talk a back

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Speaker 1: and if he if he don't talk a basketball, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be shot. Somebody ready to go, somebody ready to go,

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Speaker 1: you know. And so that's how I look at you now.

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Speaker 1: Now this one, I want to make sure not you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be doing no no flipping this time, like

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Speaker 1: even when you the last time and you crack, because

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Speaker 1: of go too far. And it ain't nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with the kitchen. It's outside. When the pans down, he

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Speaker 1: too creative. And when he when he when he went

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Speaker 1: across that floor and flip and crashed, I was like, man, that'

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Speaker 1: when I first recognized it. Boy, this boy right here,

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Speaker 1: somebody need to manage him. You know, somebody put a

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Speaker 1: little buzzer in your head. You know when you when

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Speaker 1: the idea pop up, drop it the far the best

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Speaker 1: boone start Cooking Act. Let's let's tell us about the

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Speaker 1: Comeback Kitchen Man, because I enjoyed talking to you. What

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Speaker 1: is the goal of all the contestants on that show?

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Speaker 1: Tell us tell everybody high works so we can watch

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Speaker 1: it this Sunday. Yes, definitely the kids. They bring back

681
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Speaker 1: of the best of the best chefs, and we're all

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Speaker 1: fighting for in battle and for apart back on Food

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Speaker 1: Network Starts season fourteen, which come Back Kitchen in the

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Speaker 1: part of Food Network Start, it's the prequel, and what

685
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Speaker 1: we're doing is we're fighting for that that one seat,

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Speaker 1: that one seat on the platform to get back into

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Speaker 1: the rain of of food. They were start a battle

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Speaker 1: against electend to Elata more chefs for that title of

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Speaker 1: holding Food Network Start. A lot of people know me

690
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Speaker 1: from season twelve being to run her up. So that

691
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Speaker 1: was one of the reasons between between that and the

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Speaker 1: fact that I have so many fans that Eve Man

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Speaker 1: me on a regular basis saying that they loved me,

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Speaker 1: they want to see me back on TV. It was

695
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Speaker 1: a no brainer that I had to go back. I

696
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Speaker 1: had to go back, just up the mere fact I

697
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Speaker 1: have to give people what they want. When the fans

698
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Speaker 1: called for you, you gotta, you gotta, but you didn't

699
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Speaker 1: call me. You call me ro Sean. They want me

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Speaker 1: to come back on TV. What should I do? I said, boy,

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Speaker 1: if you're don't take your back back on that TV show,

702
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Speaker 1: you know, because he asked me a little common sense

703
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Speaker 1: stuff like, you know, like I'm really managing him. What

704
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Speaker 1: should I do? Boy? That ain't hard to see get

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Speaker 1: back on that show. I lean on you because I

706
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Speaker 1: see you in that light. I really do. And that's

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Speaker 1: why when I called you and I was talking to

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Speaker 1: you about that, you was like, look at you. You

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Speaker 1: ain't been back on TV tell years. And when you

710
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Speaker 1: was on there, you was the run up. If you

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Speaker 1: don't have to get your butt back on you said,

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Speaker 1: I said, all right, That's all you had to say

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Speaker 1: is this is what I gotta do. Run out of time.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that every Sunday, this Sunday in particular,

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Speaker 1: you'll be on the Comeback Catches Round three. Uh Food network.

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Speaker 1: What time is does it air a PM cents or

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Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern NAPM Eastern. We didn'tlantic to NAPIM. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna watch. We're gonna put this on podcast. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: release it early so we can just let people know

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Speaker 1: that this happened. I'm putting on my Facebook page on

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Speaker 1: uh Saturday night. We're gonna put it on podcasts for

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Speaker 1: Apple and I Heart properly by Thursday and to be

723
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Speaker 1: on Serious X And we're gonna get this out here, man,

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Speaker 1: because I'm a fan and the world needs to know.

725
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Speaker 1: And you're gonna be on TV man. One day, I'll

726
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Speaker 1: be saying, my two favorite TV shows are gonna be

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Speaker 1: Chief and The Pine Neer Woman exactly. You know what,

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Speaker 1: they don't make the tune it tick morning cooking segment,

729
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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna make those duty that I made yesterday

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Speaker 1: come back kitchen. You're gonna see we're current on this show, man,

731
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Speaker 1: We're current on this show. We're keeping it real. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: tell your wife Pie you know I love her. He's

733
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Speaker 1: the father of nine kids, seven with his lovely wife

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Speaker 1: that I just said hi to. So he's not only

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Speaker 1: cooking in the kitchen my man is cooking in the badroom. Y'all. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is Tasha Evans and I love to great restaurants

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Speaker 1: and more than that, I love great desserts. So does

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Speaker 1: I love that intro every time I hear it. I

747
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Speaker 1: love it because I'm not if I'm not broke, because

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Speaker 1: that's what we do on money make conversation. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of I'm not broke conversation. But like I

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Speaker 1: said earlier, stop letting you your your reflection, that mirror,

751
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Speaker 1: that what you're looking in that mirror, turn it around,

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Speaker 1: make it positive. Motivate yourself to success by putting forth

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Speaker 1: an effort. My next guest has no problem putting forth

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Speaker 1: an effort. I'm fraternity brother. I got two fra turns

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Speaker 1: to have Matthew knows on earlier my fraternity brother. Now

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Speaker 1: I have another fraternity life memorable make a sci fi

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Speaker 1: He's the leader turning for the families of Trayvon Martin,

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Speaker 1: Michael Brown, Alicia Thomas, Stefan Clark with Sacramento who was

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Speaker 1: brutally shot by the Sacramento Police, Taqisha Clemens who was

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Speaker 1: rastled to the ground by police officers in the waffle

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Speaker 1: house in Alabama. He's a vanguarden to fight against police brutality.

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Speaker 1: He's an entrepreneur, he's an author. Please welcome to a

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Speaker 1: money making conversation by a good friend. Because we talk

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Speaker 1: at least six times a week, Attorney Benjamin Cropp at

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Speaker 1: least six times a week. Talked last night. You talked

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Speaker 1: about five times last week. Ben Uh. You know, man,

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Speaker 1: I first of all, and there's a there's a spurs

768
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Speaker 1: special passion I have for you because of what you do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just watching you grow as a as a

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Speaker 1: as a businessman, as an entrepreneur, as an entertainer. You

771
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Speaker 1: know you just wanted to just practice law. Man, When

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Speaker 1: did it when did the lightbulb in a different direction

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Speaker 1: start happening and the Trayvon mart and you went in

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Speaker 1: there just to uh, you know, you know, just just

775
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Speaker 1: get a verdict of guilty for somebody who has committed

776
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Speaker 1: the crime that was wrong. We have video, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we have we have, we had, we had evidence.

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Speaker 1: This is the audio audio Rishan, And you know you

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Speaker 1: were there at the beginning. I'm a civil rights lawyer,

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Speaker 1: and everything that happens beyond that is just graving. And

781
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: you never know where life is gonna take you. You know,

782
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: when you and I talked, we always talk about don't

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Speaker 1: limit yourself. You know, you never ever put limpus on yourself.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm doing. I'm following a lot

785
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Speaker 1: of good advice from you about this, uh television and

786
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: media branding and such. What we did for tray Vionn

787
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Speaker 1: was just very organic and sincere because it was all

788
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Speaker 1: from the heart. We took the case because his seventeen

789
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Speaker 1: year old child had been killed, and you said that's

790
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Speaker 1: not right, and it became the number one news story

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Speaker 1: in the world from that point. Every time I walked

792
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Speaker 1: in airports, wherever I walk, people recognize who I was

793
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Speaker 1: because I believe the passion that A displayed and advocating

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Speaker 1: for Trayvon. And then after that the phone just kept ringing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so now I'm doing a national law firm to

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Speaker 1: being crump law firms. So we should try to help

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Speaker 1: more people. Uh, We've just sued the National Basketball Association.

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Speaker 1: We think not only will we have that family, but

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Speaker 1: we'll make cod sale changes as it relates to uh,

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Speaker 1: these sudden cardiac events that most high performance after lets

801
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Speaker 1: have a chance of experiencing, and whether they live or

802
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Speaker 1: die is going to depend on the rapid response of

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Speaker 1: appropriate medical attention. I mean these are high school players,

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Speaker 1: college players, and so life is evolving until we have

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Speaker 1: evidence of innocence. To night that you pretty much shepherded

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Speaker 1: me to do, and we talked about what is it

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Speaker 1: if you were giving the platform, would you want to

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Speaker 1: do or tell the world? And I said, if I

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Speaker 1: had my white reshion, I would want to tell them

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Speaker 1: about due process of the law and the fact that

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Speaker 1: we don't always get equal justice, but we need to

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Speaker 1: be educated about it. And you took it from there

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Speaker 1: and said, on these wrong for convictions, everybody needs to

814
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Speaker 1: know that it can happen to you too, and let's

815
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Speaker 1: tell the inspirational story. So it's just been a journey

816
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Speaker 1: with Shine and today is the fulfillment of one of

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Speaker 1: those UH plans that we had that we made reality.

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Speaker 1: Ever there you put a lot of personal time with them.

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Speaker 1: It's a limited serial. Let me just tell everybody they

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Speaker 1: gave us four episodes because it's entertainment, you know, just

821
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Speaker 1: because we have a good spirit, we have a good idea.

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Speaker 1: We want to tell the story, the motivational story about

823
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Speaker 1: people who've been in jail for decades, how they come out,

824
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Speaker 1: how they dealt with the circumstances, how they came out

825
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Speaker 1: real positive people. These are people that you wouldn't even

826
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Speaker 1: know walking down the street would were in jail for

827
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Speaker 1: that long because they didn't let the system beat them.

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Speaker 1: We went to Atlanta, Georgia. We went to Hartford, Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: We went to Dallas, Texas, went to Portland, Oregon. I

830
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Speaker 1: say that to let you know that unjust is happening

831
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Speaker 1: all over this country, correct, Ben Cromp, absolutely going any

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Speaker 1: court room and Americans said in the back and usc

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Speaker 1: justice is anything but equal. Now, why did you do

834
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Speaker 1: this show? We're telling people why it was important to

835
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Speaker 1: do a show because you know it's right in your wheelhouse,

836
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Speaker 1: you know, a vorce for the unheard UH second chance opportunities,

837
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Speaker 1: motivating people to realize that speak up, speak up, don't

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Speaker 1: give up. Yep, you know rashon. Let me tell people

839
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Speaker 1: who might not know. Evidence of Innocence is about wrongfully

840
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Speaker 1: convicted people who have been exonerated by clear and convincing

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Speaker 1: evidence and DNA evidence, And so it was so important

842
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: for me to do this show. Rochane and I were

843
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, what would you wanna do if

844
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Speaker 1: you could communicate to the masses, Because more people watch

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Speaker 1: TV than you, they'll ever know what happened inside of

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Speaker 1: the courtroom. And I said, I would want to try

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Speaker 1: to affect the hearts and minds of future jurors to

848
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Speaker 1: put a very real show on TV different and that

849
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Speaker 1: gives the real experience of what many black people facing

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Speaker 1: the courtroom. And this is one of the most realistic

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Speaker 1: but yet inspirational UH television shows about black people in

852
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Speaker 1: the criminal justice system that has ever been produced. And

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Speaker 1: I mean that from the heart. Don't take my word

854
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Speaker 1: that I want you to watch UH these four weeks

855
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Speaker 1: and you will see that people's faith and families have

856
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Speaker 1: overcome just most horrible injustices you would ever imagine. And

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Speaker 1: as Rashaun and I kept saying to the TV one executives,

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860
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Speaker 1: can happen to their loved ones. There are a hundred

861
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Speaker 1: thousand people sitting in American prisons who are completely innocent,

862
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Speaker 1: didn't do anything, but yet they are there. And unfortunately

863
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Speaker 1: the highest percentage of those people are Black people, especially

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Speaker 1: black men. And that's why I wanted to do this

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Speaker 1: just to show about relationships that business relationship, life relationships,

880
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881
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Speaker 1: All tell the people on the daily basis that you

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Speaker 1: are a brand. Social media has solely totally changed the

884
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Speaker 1: game on how you communicate with people. Um, you communicate

885
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Speaker 1: with them direct messaging. You know, celebrities, you can actually

886
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Speaker 1: reach them through their social media. My next guest, he's

887
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Speaker 1: a twoth star and I'm sure he has that same problem,

888
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Speaker 1: you know, especially you know he raised the bar NASCAR

889
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: on February when he became the highest finishing African American

890
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Speaker 1: driver at the world. Right now, Daytona five hundred, when

891
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: you took the checker flag in the second position. Please,

892
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: welcome to money Making Conversation. Darryl Bubba Wallace. How's it

893
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: going there? If that ain't a race car? Name a

894
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: NASCAR name. Brother, it's there, it's there, man, And you

895
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: threw there and you hung on that there there you dude,

896
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm from Houston Tech. You can't throw out that little

897
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Speaker 1: country and not let me catch you that dare. How

898
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: about there? Hey, I'm from Alabama. So it's so you're

899
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: slid from Alabama and now you're open to Charlotte there,

900
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: and so you just slid across all these Southern states

901
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: every language, that's right. So I was off there. I

902
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: was just telling you that you were based on in Concord, uh,

903
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina, which is right outside of Charlotte. Then my

904
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: daughter used to play a lot of it. She used

905
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Speaker 1: to be a national touring UH tennis player and we

906
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: used to go up to Concorde and play those major

907
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: tennis tournaments. Okay, I know how expensive that that that is.

908
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: That's why you people talk about golf being expensive. That's

909
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Speaker 1: why you see tiger Wood where the rest that well,

910
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: golf's kind of expensive. Same thing tennis. You know where

911
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: the rest of what is on the Serena and Venus,

912
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: that's it. Nobody else it's expensive you know, to put into.

913
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Speaker 1: Now you're going into a sport. My man, whoa where

914
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the checkbook writing is huge. That's right, walk us back

915
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: a little bit before we talk about that, that historical

916
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: moment at Daytona five art and plus we're gonna talk

917
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: about what you're doing the day. But really I want

918
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: to give my my listeners, your fans, and opportunities to

919
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: hear a little bit about your journey the Darrel. I

920
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: remember when I watched the press conference when your mom

921
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: came and to hug yous. You was in tears, and

922
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, it was such an for me as an

923
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Speaker 1: African American. It was such a special moment because even

924
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Speaker 1: in today we got tea, we still sitting records, we're

925
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: still breaking barrious and that's important. And I don't want

926
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Speaker 1: to like gloss over that because of the fact that

927
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: you are a role model, you feel, and being a

928
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: role model that puts additional pressure because people want you

929
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: to repeat it so quickly. Well he's there now, you know,

930
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods has come back from injury. People want him

931
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: to win the Masters immediately. You know, you know, they

932
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: just won't. They won't. They won't results sometimes so quickly.

933
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: So talk about getting started in NASCAR. If if a

934
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Speaker 1: person has a level of interest and walking through the

935
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Speaker 1: ticketr time and walking through the steps. Yeah. So I

936
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: I started out race when I was nine years old,

937
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: Nan years old, Nan years old. That's right. Yeah, you

938
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: don't need a driver's license to drive a NASCAR so, uh,

939
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: you just have the checkbook to go out and buy

940
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: a go cart and to be successful and until be it.

941
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Speaker 1: So uh, I can't let it. See, I'm for fill

942
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: War Texas. I had a god call. My dad put

943
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: a little motor Lawmore engine on the back of a

944
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: little a little, a little thing he created, and we

945
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: raced ing down the street and the dog used to

946
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: chase me. Yeah, well I roll past him. So so

947
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: I had a little go cart. Now come to let

948
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: you know that I had a little NASCAR experience at

949
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: night when my dad's left that law More on the

950
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: back of that gold cart. So I know that cart.

951
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like how you started, right, Yeah,

952
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: that's right. So it's a little bit different. Um, these

953
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: are kind of built the go carts we had are

954
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: kind of built for for racing. An absolute rockcages around

955
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: him and everything. So um so we spent about h

956
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: we spent about two years in each series that we had.

957
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Um that we had you know, been a part of.

958
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: And we would graduate to a bigger and faster car

959
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: and UH work our way up through the ranks, UH,

960
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: grabbing plenty of winds, going through both of the emotions,

961
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: the highs and lows, plenty of wins, plenty of res Uh.

962
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: You learned from the Rex to go back out and

963
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: win the next weekend. So we just stayed. Uh. We

964
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: stayed hungry for each and every race, each and every

965
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: weekend throughout the year, just to just to be better

966
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: and we should be better than than the previous race.

967
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: So UM, so I went about twenty starts thousand, nine

968
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: tells eight other nine rolled around. We had gotten into

969
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: a full size stock car, about four hundred horsepower late

970
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Mitel stock car. UM and UH we had done really

971
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: great that year, and we had gotten a call from

972
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: coach Gibbs, which uh, I think a lot of people

973
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: do for UH football coach for the Redskins Super Bowl,

974
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning right, that's right. So we got a

975
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: call from from their department there to come out and

976
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: try to do a tryout for their race team, and

977
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: UM we were one of the top prospects out of

978
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: that and we ended up signing on with them for

979
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: a handful of years UH running in the can In

980
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: Series or under also under the Drive Diversity program. So

981
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a whirlwindows of stuff

982
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: we had going on, UM but UM, but it was

983
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: a great time that we had. There was was j

984
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: g R all the way up until twenty we had

985
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: switched over to UH jump teams to UH with Jack

986
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: Ralph and Ralph Finoy racing UM and UH had some

987
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: great years there and then now we're finally at the

988
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: top level and the Monster Engine NASCAR Cup Series, UM

989
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: racing for the King Richard Petty. So it's been a

990
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: it's been a long process, a hard thought process, but

991
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: it's all part of it and looking back on and

992
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for anything. Well, you can't. You

993
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: can't because of the fact that you're doing what you

994
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: what you love and UH just talk about the business

995
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: side of being a NASCAR driver because it's beyond your

996
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: talented person, but you also have to be a business person.

997
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: You also have to be a person that advertiser sponsors

998
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: deem a credible investment for their for their fame, for

999
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: their fan base. Is whether you know where your Chick

1000
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: fil A or a target or your forward or you

1001
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: or a gas company. How does that work as far

1002
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: as the business side of NASCAR for you and your brand? Yeah,

1003
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: So I'm representing brands each and every day now, UM

1004
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, whether I'm at the racetrack or not, I'm

1005
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: still an ambassador for for all of our partners that

1006
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: are part of our PM, that are part of our team.

1007
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: UM So you know I slip up and that that

1008
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: that costs heavily for all of us. So we definitely

1009
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: have to you know, athletes are put on a pedestal,

1010
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: which isn't the greatest thing in the world. We have

1011
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: to have to take that initiative and take that next

1012
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: step of being that role model and representing the best

1013
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: way we can UM to UH to make sure we

1014
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: come across and the most positive light. So UM so

1015
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: being able to UH to represent the many brands that

1016
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: we have, such a STP which is but a longtime

1017
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: partner with Richard Petty and everybody at our PM. We

1018
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: represent the Air Force. UM new partners have come on

1019
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: board this year with and UM and and also we

1020
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: just signed on a brand new sponsor for a handful

1021
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: of races with our wide technology out of St. Louis So, uh,

1022
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: there's many other associate sponsors that we are partner it with.

1023
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, for me a personal service, I'm I'm an

1024
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: ambassador for Coca Cola, so excited to have them Chevrolet.

1025
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of partners that make our program happen.

1026
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: So your uniform is like like like like like tattered

1027
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: up right now with that's what that's the goal, right,

1028
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: that's the goal. They have the log right underneath the Yeah,

1029
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: the log goal right underneath the neck. You know. Then

1030
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: all this is the sleeve, the breast area. So man,

1031
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: you're out there looking good. That's what you are, looking

1032
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: good exactly. You got to you gotta represent now. Now

1033
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: with that being said, you know what you you you're

1034
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: selling your brain. You're marking your brand now. The pressure

1035
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: of because of the fact that, let's let's be real,

1036
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: you an in a sport that's that's uh, poorly attended

1037
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: by African Americans. I know NASCAR is making a focused

1038
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: effort to give a more minority participations as far as

1039
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: attendees now, but you but you can't sell your brand

1040
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: as an African American. You have to sell your brand

1041
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: is a brand that that everybody wants to participate in.

1042
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: So that's a responsibility to maintain a universal approach to

1043
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: how you communicate the brand that you're that you're successfully

1044
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: and correct, yes, correct and and uh for us to

1045
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: you know, at the same time of representing all those

1046
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: brands I am, I'm still selling myself, uh for potential

1047
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: partners out there that are that are interested in the sport.

1048
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: So you know, whether it's African American owned company or

1049
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: a response to that that that's been around for years,

1050
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: they're looking for a new outlet. I'm continuing, uh to

1051
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: to you know, sell myself in the best way that

1052
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: I can. I'm gonna tell you this, Darryl Bubba Wallace,

1053
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: you are a true spokesperson for the sport. Use you

1054
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: you articulate um. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation. Yea,

1055
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: I would have waited till July to put you on

1056
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: this show, man, because you have a story to tell

1057
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: and and I want to come out and see you live.

1058
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: I know I have contacted NASCAR if I'm able to

1059
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,680
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