1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: What's up? Its way up with Angela Yee Ikim would said, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: can I stay for this one? Because Jessica White is 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: here the multi hyphen it you know, entrepreneur, cover girl, groundbreaking, model, wife, yes, 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: wife now wife now okay period, but also artist, musician, producer. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Big thing that we're doing right now is we're really producing. 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about it. 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: You're always into something though, Like I've known you for 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: a long time, and you know, I think and obviously 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the modeling because how could 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: we not right now, because you were on America's Next 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: Top Model as a guest judge on an episode. But 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: it's just so many things outside of that that you've done, 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: you know that I think is amazing, just being so versatile. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: We were just talking about what an EmPATH you are also. 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: Highly emotional, very spiritual, but I think that's what life is. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: You're supposed to kind of like live life and experience 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: all the details of yourself and get to explore yourself 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: like that. 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: It's hard being an EmPATH in this world when you 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: watch the news. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: It's hard being an impath in this business. Most importantly, 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this business, this business, It what kind of 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: it tries to desensitize you. And there are times where 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: I think I probably have been, but not in a 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: bad way, because impacts need to have a sense of 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: you got to have a balance. You can't overly give 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: all of yourself. You've got to learn how to operate 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: in that ability to love and to feel for everyone, 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: because a lot of people will take advantage of. 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: That and have and and have for. 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: Me as well. 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been in this business. You've been modeling 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: since the age of twelve, so you've gone and seen 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, raise myself and the modeling has changed 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: so much. And you know, it's interesting because with the 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: America's Not Next Time Model docu series coming out, a 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of people are using you as a meme, you know, 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: for that as well. But you were a guest judge 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: and you were so nice, and I was wondering because 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: I know I've heard people say, oh, they wanted me 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: to be me. I was like, Jessica, can't really be no, 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, I mean critic. 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's ever told me what to do 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: in this bank. I mean, I've been lucky, but even 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: I remember when I went on the show I didn't 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: have any idea of what I was going to do. 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: All I knew was that these young girls were once 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: me and I once looked up to Tyra Banks, and 49 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: I had the ability and the opportunity to become the 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: second African American woman to have signed with Cover Girl. 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Tyra was the first African American. I was the second, 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: and I was sixteen years old when that happened. And 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: I remember making sure I told God, like, I want 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: this particular I wanted in this order. I want Cover Girl, 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: I want Victoria's Secret, and I want Sports Illustrated. And 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: I got all iss you. I got them all back 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: to back. Just I mean my prayers, I can manifest 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: it anything I want, and you. 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Did Sports Illustrated. I think was it thirteen? 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: No? Oh no, no, no, they would die? I was 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: I just turned eighteen. I'm talking about how many thirteen? Yes, thirteen, yeah. 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: But thirteen actually years in a row. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's a major situation. 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Because I mean, to be honest with you, I remember 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: just kind of standing up for girls in the industry. 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: I remember, I'm going to tell you guys something that 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: I've never said before. I got a movie for X 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Men and I got booked for the world. I'm not 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: going to even tell you the character, but it was 71 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: one of the biggest characters in X Men. And I 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: was doing I was doing Sports Illustrated and they had 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: this opportunity for me where the guy, one of the 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: head ups, wanted to have me hand hold a plate 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: of spaghetti. I'm like fall and not be able to 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: like hold a plate of spaghetti. And I looked at 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: him and I was like, I'm sorry, I'm Jessica White. 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm a supermodel. You think I've been taking care of 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: myself since I was twelve years old and I can't 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: walk barefoot and hold a plate of spaghetti. I was like, we, 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: as women, we want to do Sports Illustrated because it 82 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: makes us bigger in the industry. It gives us we 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: become a brand versus a product. We dream about these things. 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: It was like, this is not good, and this is 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: giving off the wrong information to the women that are 86 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: in Sports Illustrated. We worked hard to become these brands, 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: and we can hold a plate of spaghetti right, and 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: we can hold in a conversation. 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: We can spaghetti commercial. I don't understand what. 90 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: The it was, just these little things, these little commercials 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: and videos that they would do trying to be goofy 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: or something, yes, and I just didn't find it fun 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: and I did, and for me at that time in 94 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: my life, I was like, there's nothing funny about this. 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: And so I actually got black Ball from the movie 96 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: because I stood up to that guy. 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: What And so then you've lost the movie and this 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: is the first man. 99 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, it was the second one, the 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: second one. And so I'll tell you this one thing. 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: I kind of now when I look back and I 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: look back at this the documentary with Tyra, and I 103 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: look at back at my life, and I go, I 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't take that moment back for anything in the world 105 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: because X Men was fleeting for me, especially with how 106 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: I was and operating, and I didn't. I marched with 107 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: the beat of my own drum. But one thing that 108 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: never happened is I always stood up for girls. And 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: I just feel watching that documentary. I love Tyra. Tyrant's 110 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: always been a huge supporter of Jessica White. She really 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: truly has. I cannot say that. But it's the producers, 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: and with me being a producer now and doing my 113 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: own shows, it's the producers that have a right and 114 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: the way that they handled that young girl who was 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: sexually abused. 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: Which she was heartbreaking, and then they kept the cameras 117 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: rolling and then pretended as if it was okay. 118 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 2: And I don't appreciate, you know, the scene where Tyra 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: did come back and have a conversation with cheating, Yeah, 120 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: that was perpetuating the situation. She should have kind of 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: stepped outside of that. But I do understand how producers 122 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: can like push you and manipulate and manipulate that situation. 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: So I still hold grace for her with those producers. 124 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: Shame on them. 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say that because I've you know, 126 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: when it's horrifying. Like when I was watching it, I 127 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: was like, this is awful. She's young, she drank way 128 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: too much. 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: And the fact that they had her breakup with her boyfriend, 130 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 5: not break up the camera. 131 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: Imagine she's being abused, she got raped on camera, it's filmed, 132 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: and the boyfriend calls her a wrror. 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we have to watch this. We have 134 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: to watch this, and she has to watch I mean, 135 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: And then she also went on her talk show and 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: they and they play the scene on Tyra's talk show too. 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: That was another thing. She played it and then. 138 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: And then and then she was looking at it. 139 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: But then she even was like, I told you I 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 5: didn't want to see it, So why would you play 141 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: it if they if she told you that you don't 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: want to And I think that's awful. 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: I under like I Also, I'm seeing Tyra gets a 144 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: lot of flak for this. I see people saying it 145 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: wasn't just her though, right it. 146 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: Was, by the way, Tyra wasn't there. And this is 147 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: the reason why I hold the producers more responsible than anything. 148 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: Those cameramen. 149 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Filming, they apologize, They screw the apology. 150 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: You don't keep. You don't apologize to me, But watched you. 151 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: You're filming it, and you keep. They go into the bathroom. 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: You have to have permission. People don't understand how these 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: things work. When you're filming. They cannot come into the bathroom. 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: They went into the bathroom. They're filming. This girl in 155 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: the shower with the man, bed with this guy, and 156 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: she's blacked out, and she's so young. 157 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: And what sucks is that no one knows. No one 158 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: knows the face. 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: She says, she had two bottles herself wine. Let me 160 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: tell you something. I love red wine, don't take me 161 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: out right and grown Yeah, and I'm grown girl with 162 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: a grown liver. 163 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: I have a question. 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 5: So knowing so you you made it and modeling before 165 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 5: you being a model, what do you have been on 166 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: America America's Next Time Model? What do you have like 167 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: been on that as a contestant before you made it? 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 5: What do you think you would have did? 169 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, there's no such thing, because I made it. Of course, 170 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: my first job was American Vogue, so that just really 171 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: wasn't my story. What I can tell you is what 172 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: I have got. I Okay. For instance, so Cover Girl 173 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: used to do these old school like model searches in 174 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: the magazines for like like Team magazines, so they I 175 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: literally would have to take a picture of yourself and 176 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: then sit it in the mail and like it was 177 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: old school things at that time, and I signed up 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: for it, didn't get chosen, and then three years later 179 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: I have the second African American Model too. So I 180 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: believed at that time contestants and shows like that were 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: so important, and they're still important now. It's just that 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: now we're holding people more accountable than God. The industry has. 183 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: Changed drastically for the better in most parts. 184 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: For the better and sometimes for the worst, because we're 185 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: because we're it was were a lot of things I 186 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: didn't experience. I actually had to work really hard to 187 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: become as successful as I am meant to earn the 188 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: right now anybody can. So there's some you know, ups 189 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: and downs about every aspect of how the industry has become. 190 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: Man, listen, just watching that, and you keep saying, as 191 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: a producer, so does this mean you have something. 192 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: I do and something that's very similar to what we're 193 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: talking about? Okay, But I just believe it's about mentoring. 194 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: And actually, one thing that I always hated about my 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: life story was that I had to learn through trial 196 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: and error in the hard way, and I never had 197 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: a mother or anybody that mothered me through the situation. 198 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: So I had to basically become the brains behind my 199 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: own or organization and like figure out how staying power 200 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: was going to be important to me and how I 201 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: was going to be able to do this. And I 202 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: had to do it on my own as well as 203 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: with my producers and you know agents and stuff like that. 204 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: But mostly if the agents are not calling you, you 205 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to make yourself and 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: put yourself back out. 207 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: There was there a time that agents weren't calling you. 208 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: I think there's the time for any model or any 209 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: actress where agents they're constantly working with multiple people. I've 210 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: learned to, you know, one of my greatest pieces of 211 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: advice people would be I had an amazing publicist who 212 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: would be like, Okay, we're gonna invite you know page six. 213 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: You have to be confriended with everybody. You have to 214 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: let them see you as a normal person so that 215 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: you can always stay on the lips of everyone. But 216 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: they have to see you as a real individual, and 217 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: they have to know that you have other talents and 218 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: other gifts. You have to play the game the right way, 219 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: and as a woman, you have to play it masculine, 220 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: but you still have to play your feminine. It's very 221 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: interesting concept. 222 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Because I even think you've always given us a lot 223 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: of yourself personally too, and that matters also when it 224 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: comes to well. 225 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: I didn't give that. I had no choice but to 226 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: give it because I needed to control the narrative because 227 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: the one thing that they were always going to do 228 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: was exploit my love life, and they just didn't realize 229 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: I was a teenager when I was a young girl, 230 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: was in my twenties and I'm dating. I just happen 231 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: to be dating certain people, but they didn't allow me 232 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: the opportunity to get to know these people because it 233 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: would go into the news before I even knew the person, 234 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: Like I don't even know. 235 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: We were just trying to go get something to eat, 236 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: and we had to know each other a little better. 237 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that people had a preconceived notion of 238 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you before really knowing you? Just because I don't. 239 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: Think people really know me now, and I'm okay with that, 240 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: so I don't care about the preconceived notion. I just 241 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: believe that everything that I've gone through and everything that 242 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: I experienced and everything I didn't said in my life 243 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: was at a certain timeline, and those timelines expire and 244 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: here we are again. 245 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you this though, as we're 246 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: talking about your career and decisions that you made. When 247 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: you did love and hip hop, people were surprised about that, 248 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and when you look back at that now, do you 249 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: feel like that was because I know a lot of 250 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: people will talk about doing reality TV and how you 251 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: don't get to really show your whole self because it's 252 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: so edited and there's only a little clip that we 253 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: get to see. How do you feel about that? 254 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: I love the experience, Honest to God, I don't regret 255 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: that experience because I'll tell you this one thing. I 256 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: really had gone through a moment where I had some 257 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: very challenging things going on and I just was done. 258 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: I was like, I just want to be normal. I 259 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: don't want to do any of this, but that's not 260 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: my life. I had producers, black, powerful producers in Hollywood, like, 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: we want you to come and tell your story. They 262 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: I knew there was only so much we could do, 263 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: but I was at a place where I was like, 264 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm just going to heal in front of the world, 265 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: and I'm going to acknowledge and accept and hold space 266 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: for myself and allow it to be so and whatever 267 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: it was, I prayed to God. I was like, just 268 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: let my story be what it's going to be. Two 269 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: weeks into filming, I got sick, got my fallopian tube 270 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: removed on TV like I got literally was going to 271 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: allow my story to be what it was. And my 272 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: story on that show was a story of healing and redemption. 273 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: And that's just the way that my life has always gone. 274 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: I trust the process. 275 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: No, I listen, I really do. 276 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: I think the process is so fucking cool. Life is cool, 277 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: and if you just try not to control it all, 278 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: you can really wake up and really heal and help 279 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: yourself and bless a lot of other people. Like, look 280 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: at my life right now. It's amazing. I never thought 281 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: I would be in there. 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna get it because when I seen that. So, 283 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: first of all, she is a married lady. Okay, so 284 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: congratulations on that. And just by coincidence, her husband is 285 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: somebody beautiful art that I have a piece of art from. 286 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: It's in my study, which is one of my favorite 287 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: rooms in my house. 288 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And that's one of his and my 289 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: favorite art piece. He doesn't even use those color palates anymore. 290 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: He's an abstract artist. Yeah. 291 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like I've seen Nathan. Yeah. And so 292 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I didn't even put it together because I knew you 293 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: had gotten engaged. 294 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: But I didn't really and I didn't realize. I kind 295 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: of got into a place where it was kind of 296 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: really quiet. 297 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: Because I didn't realize it was him until I was like, now, 298 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is the piece of art I got, 299 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: and I believe I had to like go and do 300 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: my own little digging and be like, oh, okay, that's 301 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: who that is. M So you were quiet about that, 302 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: But tell me how that all transpired now that it's 303 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: oh solidified. 304 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so Nathan and I met. We met on Rio. 305 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Okay, because I've heard some people having a hard time a. 306 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Right, oh, but they just I don't know. I don't 307 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: know what was happening. I had no problems on Riya. 308 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Good for but I actually, yeah, well, people can't get on. 309 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: A lot of my friends that are bigger than me 310 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: can't get invited. 311 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I can imagine that your Riya was explosive. It was 312 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: if people saw you. 313 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I was going on Riya. So 314 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: I was going through in vitro on my own, and 315 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: I was single by choice. I was going through therapy. 316 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: My doctor was like, okay, if you want to do this. 317 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I bought my sperm. I had my my my sperm, 318 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: I had my. 319 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: My How did you choose your sperm? 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: Based off of intellect? Them not having any alcohol or 321 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: drug experiences was important. The connection between their grandmother their mother. 322 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: Would you get they show you the guy or. 323 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they show you the guy and then you can 324 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: pay extra for all like the full the. 325 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: History of. 326 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: The boys. He was a doctor, like it was. It 327 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: was things that I just I was. 328 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Like, okay for dating, you just picked one of the U. 329 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: So I had that and I was like, okay, this 330 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: is my sperm. This is for me to do. I 331 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: have my doctor. He specialized in indim giosis. I say, 332 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: this is perfect for me. My producer and my brother 333 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: from Love and Hip Hop who's one of my best friends, Cousbin. 334 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: He was like, you need to get back out there 335 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: and start dating again. I'm like, I'm about to have children. 336 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: He was like, so what. I was like, you know what, 337 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: I could take a lover too. So I got I 338 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: got back because I had deleted the app. I got 339 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: accepted and then deleted the app and got back on 340 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: that same day. I ended up connecting and contacting with Nathan, 341 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: and our first conversation that night was seven hours long. 342 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know how rare that is in 343 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: this day. 344 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: It was just like a swiping app too, right. Is 345 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: it similar to like tender when you swipe or stuff or. 346 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: I don't know about tender. I just know that with 347 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: Riah's very compless. You can't even take pictures of the 348 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: people like or else you'll get like a flag and okay, 349 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: it's all celebrity. Yeah yeah, And then like we just 350 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: had this like long conversation. I was like, oh, he's cute. 351 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, you know you guys are a beautiful couple. 352 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. 353 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: So when was the first date? Like, and when did that? 354 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: How long? Okay? So we started seeing each we started talking, 355 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: but I was traveling and working so was he. So 356 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: we kind of disconnected for like two months, and then 357 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: we got back in contact with each other, and I 358 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: was like, okay, well I got two weeks off before 359 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: I have to start my next season of loving hip hop, 360 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: but I can't leave the South. He planned this two 361 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: week trip, road tripping all across. He did everything. I 362 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: was like, I am, I'm so I told it. I 363 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: was like, I'm so used to having it to do everything. 364 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: I just he did everything. I didn't have to think 365 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: about anything. 366 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: And he knew your style what was yes, and we 367 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: end up falling in love on the trip. 368 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: I got off that trip pregnant baby, and I saw 369 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: a month later pregnant and married the next We moved 370 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: really fast, but it was but I always thought it. 371 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 2: I'm very hard on men in general. 372 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: I've been through, yes I have, and so I. 373 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: Think like a man. But with him, I was just like, 374 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: this is the one and I felt safe. 375 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: And he just sometimes you have to clear this late 376 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: for something good to happen. 377 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: I didn't date for four years and I was celibate 378 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: for four years prior to being with him. I was ready, 379 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, either I was going to do the children 380 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: on my own or you know, but I didn't expect 381 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: for it. 382 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: How long have you guys been married? 383 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: It's only it's not it hasn't been a year yet, 384 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: it's only been congratulations. That's adorable. 385 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: So how long before you guys? He proposed you guys? Wow, 386 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. 387 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's my prayer partner. That is, he's 388 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: my business partner. That's that's I am for sure. Save 389 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: for the first time in my life. 390 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: I saw some artwork too. He's phenomenal. I saw some Yeah. 391 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: I was like, because you know, i'd be looking like 392 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: I like this one too. 393 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, you guys are gonna love his new art work. 394 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: And we gotta you're gonna love. 395 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Because I love the colors that he uses and. 396 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: You know, and the piece that you have, he doesn't 397 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: even use that those colors that color. 398 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: But I do like the Newer one newer ones. 399 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna love them. Ma CoA inspired a lot. I 400 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: have to say, I inspired a. 401 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Lot so Ma CoA. It was your son's name, which 402 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: and I saw that post as well, and I know 403 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: we all praying because I want this to happen for 404 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: you so badly and so but if you said it 405 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: made you guys closer together go through something like. 406 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: That, you either separate or you come closer together. And 407 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: both were on the on the table for both of 408 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: us at the time because it was very challenging, but 409 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: we just well, we locked in. We did grief counseling. 410 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: We still have our therapist. Ma CoA would have just 411 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: been born in a couple of weeks, so I find 412 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: myself even dealing with postpartum depression like it's you know, 413 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 2: it's it's difficult, but we are so locked in. And 414 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: that's my best friend. Nathan really has nourished me over 415 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: and over again throughout this process. And you know, it's 416 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: it's beautiful to see a man stand up for a 417 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: woman like. 418 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: That when you say he's your business partner. What's the 419 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: business that you guys? 420 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm not gonna say it's just yet. 421 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: Okay, I just did we guys missed something, I know. 422 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: But we've got something so amazing going on. Like I'm 423 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: so excited to work with him, like to have that 424 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: freedom to you know, I've never let men in my life. 425 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: They've basically they've never known anything about me. If you 426 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: read it, I'm like, Okay, that is what it is. 427 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: But I'm doing this married life then, and it feels good. 428 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: You deserve it, thank you, you know, and I'm really 429 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: happy for you. And I know that that's a blessing 430 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: for him as well. 431 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm a blessing for him. But I'm also I'm very complex. 432 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: You guys have fanneymoon somewhere. 433 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: We're doing it this year. I was pregnant, so it 434 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: wasn't but it wasn't gonna yeah, on bed rest and stuff, 435 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: but we're gonna do We're gonna do a really big 436 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: thing to celebrate the marriage with our family this year. 437 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so full celebrate celebration. You said that, Now you 438 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: know what, like how to move forward to do this again? 439 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: This process again? What is it that you will do 440 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: differently because I don't I know that it's anything you 441 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: you know. 442 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think that for me, I would probably not 443 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: share as quickly with family or friends about the pregnancy. 444 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: I do believe in evil eye and I want women. 445 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: I really stand on that, let babies develop, hold yourself 446 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: and just kind of cloak yourself, cloak the baby. This 447 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: is a new soul and not everybody who's gonna be 448 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: happy for you, and that is something that is very 449 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: hard for people to comprehend. That's your celebration, right and 450 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: you and that child you got to almost lock in. 451 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: I would never do that again. We were filming Love 452 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 2: and Hip Hop. It was just too many eyes on, 453 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: too many eyes on that boy. And he fought hard, 454 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: he really did. But in the end, right you know, Maca, 455 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: God bless that's my baby. 456 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: Are you doing Love and Hip Hop anymore? 457 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: Or is that we are filmed this is the season? 458 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: Because that's kind of hard for me too, because this 459 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: is this season where you see you see the engagement, 460 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: you see marriage, you see them, but you also see 461 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: me go through the process of well not losing Maca 462 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: because I couldn't film and they wouldn't even let me 463 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: That's why I have such a beautiful experience with love 464 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: and hip hop more than anybody else because these people 465 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: protected me. They really protected me. They wouldn't when I 466 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: was on bed rest. They came to Sonoma to film 467 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: with us. I didn't have to do scenes with anybody videos. 468 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: The only scene idea was with Babby And because we're 469 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: really friends, I honestly haven't. I haven't. I don't have 470 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: bad experiences. 471 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 5: That they're ethical because back in the day reality TV 472 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: show was anything but. 473 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: People to me, even with America's Next Time madel when 474 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: they people are talking about. 475 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: Your know, but I do believe that's the time you 476 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: have to learn. Like it's as much as they're ethical 477 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: with me, if I flipped out, they're gonna be like. 478 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Get the cameras. 479 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: Let letter say that. They will be like the producers 480 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: their job, their job, that's what makes it. 481 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: But when it's fun, that's the thing, when it's fun. 482 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: But also sometimes with with with the show, it was 483 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: dehumanizing and the point that was like, Okay, we get 484 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: a TV. 485 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: But like your mother was a victim of domestic violence 486 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: and they yeah, and then we want you to do 487 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: that too in this picture, like come on more pain. 488 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: You're like, saw that photo? Yeah, I can't imagine. 489 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: It was also weird because then they did the whole 490 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 5: race thing and I thought that, I'm like, but blackface. 491 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: Has never been okay historically, it's always been bad. So 492 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: I don't even understand. 493 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: You can't even and those challenges. You can't even say 494 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this, yes you can, can you? 495 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: Well, I just told you, I just told you a 496 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: whole story. 497 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I don't know. 498 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 2: How do you know? Right? How do you know I 499 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: finished that that, I finished that shoot. I didn't get 500 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: kicked a year. I didn't get kicked out of love it. 501 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: I mean off a Sports Illustrated for standing up for myself. 502 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: They still I still was in that and then came 503 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: back right. He just had a little nudge and got 504 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: me out the movie, but he didn't stop me from being. 505 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: Show We're already Jessica White. But that and these women 506 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: are still trying to get to be I. 507 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: Think the only way that you become who you're supposed 508 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: to be is by standing up for yourself. I, hands 509 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: down have always done that. That's why I can't say 510 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: that in the room with some of these power ups 511 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: and these men who I know are very you know, 512 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: flirty or you know fresh. I don't have that experience 513 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: because Jessica White walked in the room and you were 514 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: gonna know what it was. Since I was a child, 515 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I believe that young girls should be 516 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: respectful of themselves, stand up when you need to find 517 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: a way to say it. Maybe you won't say it 518 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: the way Jessica Waite said it, because I now wouldn't 519 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: say it the way Jessica White would say it back 520 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: in the day. I would say it in the way 521 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: that you would know without. 522 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: Right that look, yes, I see it, because yeah. 523 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the way way we have to teach 524 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: our young girls. If this is the business you want 525 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: to be in, this is how you get to stand 526 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: up for yourself. You have to. 527 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: Because there was that clip of that one girl I 528 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: wish did. 529 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 5: I didn't didn't say her name, but I felt like 530 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 5: literally walking out, She's like, I don't want to do 531 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: this anymore. Yeah, and then Tyer was like, well, you're 532 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: just gonna walk away, and she's like yeah, and then 533 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: she literally just walked away. 534 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: And more power to you. 535 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: You walk away or you get people like Takara and 536 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: you get people like Eva, or you get people like 537 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and you get people I mean, I'm telling 538 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 2: you these girls they stood up for themselves. No, that's 539 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: where they are. They became bigger. 540 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: Than the show because you know, I think there's also 541 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: this misconception that nobody from that show made it, But 542 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: that's not true. People saying that, like Yah Yah was 543 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: in a movie with Oprah Winfrey, right, a lot of 544 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: the women they went on to get contract. 545 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: EVA huge show, like we're not We're not going to 546 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: do that. Yes, nobody was bigger than the She wasn't 547 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: the program wasn't bigger than the people on the show. 548 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: But it's just about what you choose to do with 549 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: the platform that you're given. 550 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: What do you think about a new season now, because 551 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: that's the Tyras supposedly bringing it. 552 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: Said, I don't think that there will be one. I 553 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: don't think I don't think she's gonna Well here's the 554 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: thing that might inspire her to like maybe trying to 555 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: fix it. Well, you know, we live in a world 556 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: now where there's the year of Aquarius and people are 557 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: not interesting. Are you fixing anything? When we see how 558 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: you act it so right, now it's about exposing. So 559 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: the ones that have good souls and the ones that 560 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: you know at least have good character are the ones 561 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: that can fix something. She's kind of been tarnished. So 562 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: she needs to fix that first before she can bring 563 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: a cycle for people to trust her again. And that 564 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: would be my advice to her, get people to trust 565 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: you again before you try to get people to trust 566 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: you when you haven't rebuilt that. And she's never really 567 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: even given a real apology. 568 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: Yet, No, she has because she really, she really I 569 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: think people well people are most upset about it was 570 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 5: see Dodgs accountability to a lover that was like, oh, 571 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 5: are you kneeling the matrix? 572 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: Which would be hard to do, especially when you're trying 573 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: to come back with the season twenty five but or 574 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: cycle twenty five. But we need to get there, but 575 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: we need to give her the grace to be able 576 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: to find the space to do so. I'm sure she's 577 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, and she. 578 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Will see I could see you doing something that's more 579 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: EmPATH mentor based. We would love to see that. 580 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: Well, we touch and agree that that'll happen. 581 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna happen. Listen, I already know because I 582 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: just even in watching you on when you were a 583 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: guest judge, how you interacted with the women, I know 584 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that meant a lot to them because you were very positive. 585 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: And I still talk to these girls. I pride myself 586 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: on Listen. I've been in this business since I was twelve, 587 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: and nobody was ever going to be in competition with 588 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: me because I was my own worst or greatest fan. 589 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: I always wanted to see people have a better outlet 590 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: than me. I had to raise myself. So one thing 591 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: that I wanted to do is if I met a girl. 592 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I remember meeting Joan Smollen. She was having situations with 593 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: her agency. We were getting our hair done and she 594 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: wasn't known at all at that moment, and I looked 595 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: at her and I just like, here, take my email. 596 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you some advice. And now she's 597 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: one of the biggest super models in the world. That's 598 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: how I've always. 599 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Been right, because you're comfortable with where you are and. 600 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: My story in my journey, I always knew it was 601 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: isolated and there was gonna be something different. I took 602 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: my platform and I did what I could do with it. 603 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Anybody else you take yours and you do it and 604 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: if you can go bigger, that's what I want for 605 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: you be better than Jessica White. 606 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: And you also sing. You do music. I do okay. 607 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: And so we saw the scene with Saucy Santana with 608 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: the Vogue. Did you feel like that was a little 609 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: because he was honest about how he felt about it, it 610 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: was a little shady in the Edits a person. 611 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: So that's just what. 612 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: You've been doing music for us. 613 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: I love I love Saucy. One thing about me is 614 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: I kind of I understand this business. 615 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: You don't take it personally. 616 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't take anything personal. I allow people this space 617 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: to say what they want. I also know we were 618 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: shooting a TV show and work out, but my thing 619 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: is I have to just honor where are you? And 620 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: Saucy is very sweet and very kind and loving to me. 621 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Now we have a lot of fun. So things change. 622 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: People get to. 623 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: Know you and those things. 624 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Because he didn't really know you yet, he didn't know me. 625 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so, and he was very much like that. 626 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: This was his first season just like it was mine. 627 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: He didn't know what was happening. It wasn't you know. 628 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: You gotta protect it. 629 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: It was comedy, it was funny. It was a funny moment. 630 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: He's a funny person. 631 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: Think about TV. I've had situations and blow ups with 632 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: everybody on that show. But here's the thing, it's TV. 633 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: We're here to shoot a soap opera. 634 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's shoot okay. So speaking of that, you had 635 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Jenniece Robin on there, and that was something that a 636 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: lot of people were talking about. You know, as a woman, 637 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: you were like, let me go and talk to Yandy 638 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: about something that firsthand. My niece, you know, man DC 639 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: was in her DMS. How did you feel like about 640 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: how all that played out? 641 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: Because I was highly disappointed. It was such a disappointing 642 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: time because I didn't want to do that. And when 643 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: I actually did go down to speak with her, the 644 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: reason why I was crying is because it took so 645 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: long for me to actually get there. I like, the 646 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: producers kept asking me, can we get this scene done? 647 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: And I was just like, I I have seen women 648 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: get so broken hearted by, you know, finding out that 649 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: their partner could have distrust And honestly, I didn't know 650 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: much about what was going on in their relationship, and 651 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: nor am I I don't follow blogs. I'm not one 652 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: of those people. As much as people say she was 653 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: messy on the show, I was doing a job. And 654 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: also I had to do this particular job because I 655 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: was really super isolated. I never talked to people. After 656 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: the show, I go and shoot my stuff and then 657 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: I leave forget. Yeah, you know so, And I really 658 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't don't know anything about anybody's business. I just don't. 659 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: But I was really hurt that I had to go 660 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: and take her that information because it was that was 661 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: a real life situation. This was not more upset I'm 662 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: a cancer. I get very upset, and I don't like 663 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: when a man does that to a woman and embarrasses 664 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: you on TV. And the fact that I would have 665 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: to be a part of the embarrassment of another woman 666 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: when I had just dealt with certain things like that, 667 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: that was not cool for me. But I had to 668 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: do that also because I needed to protect this child. 669 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: And she's still my child, no matter if she is 670 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: a grown woman. And I wasn't prepared for the story 671 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: that she told it, and so that throws Robin under 672 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: the bus. So it just happened. It was just it 673 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: was just. 674 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: That's her real family, and you're like, she was not 675 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: trying to holler it was and she made it. 676 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: Same as though. And I'm sitting there like, and they 677 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: didn't film this. But there's a moment after I walked 678 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: off from having that scene with Mandys's and Undy, I'm 679 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: in the car crying and hyperventilating, and my producers like, Jessica, 680 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: you gotta be quae or was they gonna come and 681 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: film this? And at this point I just wanted to 682 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: go home because I was so upset about it. But 683 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of things you don't necessarily see. 684 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: I needed to like have time to figure it out 685 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: and was very new to this kind of reality. Like 686 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: I did a reality TV show with e it was 687 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: about my love life and I could be my little 688 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: hippie gypsy self and not have to argue with anybody. 689 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: This is a whole other level. Yeah, a confrontation that 690 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm just not what am I supposed to do with this? 691 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 5: You know, how does your family feel about you being 692 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: on reality since sometimes it does intertwine with them. Do 693 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: they feel like more inclined to be involved or that 694 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 5: they kind of want to stay away or is. 695 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: It my family supports anything that I do because they 696 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: know they trust me, they trust me. I am I 697 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: can be trusted when it comes to their protection. And 698 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't bad for Robin. It wasn't bad for Robin. 699 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had her back all the way, back all. 700 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: The way and she she's so beautiful. How can it 701 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: be so bad for her? You know? 702 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: Did you guys make amends like you and Yandy? I 703 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: don't know. 704 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Yandy. I mean honestly, after our last 705 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: scene when all of us were communicating at the table, 706 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: there's some time where you don't film. Then when I 707 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: came back, I was pregnant and engaged, and I had 708 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: a baby inside of me. I was not interested in life. 709 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: Got taken up a different toll for me. I was 710 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: just like, okay, I can't. 711 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like the things that really matter are real 712 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: life thing. 713 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I think it's just my perspective and 714 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: my priorities have been different, and my priorities now are 715 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 2: different even without Mucole. I just I do. I hate 716 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: it seeing the previews because honestly, I filmed in California 717 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 2: this season, Well everybody was in Atlanta, So I'm seeing 718 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: the previews like everybody else, right, I didn't know what 719 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: the hell was. 720 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: Because they're gonna cut it, yeah, but what's gonna make it. 721 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I was in California on bed rest 722 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: and to see the cast, and it's a great scene. 723 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: I watched the first episode like they can't wait this season, 724 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: but I hate it sing you the crying, right, that's 725 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: not anything that you know you want to be proud of. 726 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: I hate that. 727 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy to see where you are in your 728 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: life right now, you know, because watching that last season, 729 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: every time you walk, they be like, oh that's d 730 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: Da Da and his name came up so much. 731 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: They kept saying his name, and I was over. 732 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: They kept saying they kept saying it, you know. And 733 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: so now we're past that, that chapter is closed. You're 734 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: happy and love, That's what I say. Sometimes you got 735 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: to clear the slate and just but I had. 736 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: Been clearing the slate. I have been on the show 737 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty two and I wasn't dating at all. Right, 738 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: It's just everybody else kept bringing up the past. But 739 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, there is no failures right now. Everything is 740 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: learn Everything is a learning process and timelines just go 741 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: away and now you start a new timeline. So you 742 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: don't lose anything. It's just the timeline had had to 743 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: come to an end. 744 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: Well, I cannot wait for the announcement of what's next 745 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like you have a lot of. 746 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: Things I'm so excited. 747 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: About, and I'm excited for you and happy for it. 748 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: Really the best time of my life. 749 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, Jessica White, thank you so much 750 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: for coming. I love you too. We got to get 751 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: you back on lift service too. Oh yeah, next time. 752 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I got a lot. I got a lot of 753 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: information about jess. 754 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Spicy and I already know just by the way that 755 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: she is so spiritual and aligned. 756 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: And you know, they say the spiritual women are always. 757 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: The biggest free absolutely, and I think they meant it. 758 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: And just seeing how after a month, you know what 759 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, engaged and life is life, and I already 760 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: know it had to be amazing. So we'll talk about 761 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: that next time. It's way up