1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The search We're missing Coasta 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: mesa woman has turned into a double homicide investigation. Wendy 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Miller and Darren Parch were found shot to death and 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: his Newport Beach town home. I'm Nancy Grace. This is 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. What happened? 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Take listen to CBS two LA and we don't believe 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: that Newport Beach police have anyone in custody yet. Investigators 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: just left this complex a short time ago. This is 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: where the bodies were found late Sunday night. Now, according 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: to the Coroner's office, take a look at the victims. 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: They have been identified as forty eight year old Wendy 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: Miller and thirty eight year old Darren Parch. They were 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: found in Parch's apartment by his roommate, but that roommate 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: says he didn't see any signs of a break in. 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Police haven't said anything about the cause of death, but 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Miller's son put a statement out on social media saying 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: that his mom had been shot. Miller was the CEO 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: of an organization that fought for social justice for women 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: and children. She was lasting Friday night, leaving a bar 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: in Laguna Beach. Friends said she did send a text 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: the next morning. From what I understand, it just said 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: we made it safely, Did you make it home okay? 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Something or along those lines. So she was checking in, 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: but she didn't say where she was and she wasn't 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: at home, A real mystery for friends of the victims. 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Now we are told by police that they are they 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: haven't had any information about a possible suspect. What happened 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: in a double murder case. This is what we believe. 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: The first burglary attempt occurred round eleven thirty at night 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: and was interrupted by a resident. The would be burglar 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: fired a single round from a gun and that bullet 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: was found lodged outside the home we were learning now, 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: remember that said out midnight. Then the second case, five am. 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: What we think happened. The alleged perp leaves the first 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: burglary attempt and moves on. The homeowner has reviewed surveillance 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: video and sees someone tries to open the front door, 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: but no entry was made and the would be burglar 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: runs away. Police began investigating those two incidents. But then 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: what we know is that the man who was being 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: held and suspicion of robbing an attempted robbery of two homes. 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Is now arrested in connection with the murders of a 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: former professional hockey player and a mother of two. Here's 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Michelle Galas at KCALCBS nine LA assaulting. The double murder 44 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: of Wendy Miller and Darren Parch is currently the number 45 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: one priority for the Newport Beach Police Department. Officers say 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: no one has been arrested for the homicides, but the 47 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: community is safe. Without getting into specifics of the case 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: because always, as we know, it's an open investigation and 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: we have to maintain that integrity. I can't tell you 50 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: that by talking with the investigators that we have out 51 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: there that the information that they're yielding that there is 52 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: definitely not a threat to our society. The victims, according 53 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: to friends, had met on the dance floor at the 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: Sam Piper Lounge in Laguna Beach Friday night. Wendy Miller 55 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: drove Darren Parch home to his condominium about a mile 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: from her home in Costa Mesa, A roommate, police say, 57 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: found them Sunday night dead in Villa Siena, Unit number five. 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: A bright Light, unforgettable friend and children's rights champion say 59 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: those who knew the forty eight year old divorced mother 60 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: best Alicia Journey is an advisory board member for Wendy 61 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Miller's nonprofit Wings for Justice, which protects kids in the 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: family court system. Miller's death leads a huge void, Journey 63 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: told me, but her supporters and advocates will see that 64 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: her work is carried on. I want to go straight 65 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: out to Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family lawyer. Kathleen, we 66 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: now know the man that police suspect being involved in 67 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: a double murder is named Jason Bugs. Now what do 68 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: we know about Jemone Bugs's past. He has a very 69 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: very clear record. He has domestic violence allegations and in fact, 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: he should have been tagged as a very dangerous person. 71 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: And the fact that this was not random is concerning. 72 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: This was intentional, Kathleen. When you say it's not random, 73 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: it's intentional, what do you mean. Well, I've learned that 74 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: the killer had been going through his girlfriend or ex 75 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: girlfriend's telephone looking up names of people she's called, and 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: he found one of the victims and that was Darren, 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: and went to Darren's home for purposes of harming him. 78 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: So you know what's interesting to doctor Bethany Marshall's psychoanalyst. 79 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: You can find written doctor Bethany Marshall dot com Bethany. 80 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: At first police say there's no connection, but I believe 81 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: there is. I didn't think there was a connection at 82 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: first either, And how I just learned this on the show. 83 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I thought this was random. And the reason I thought 84 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: it was random is that he appears to have been 85 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: on a crime spree. Didn't it seem that way to you? 86 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he breaks into one house, he shoots at 87 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: the house as he's leaving. There's multiple burglaries. He's driving 88 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: around a neighborhood. Did you see the photo of him 89 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: working out on the beach. He's huge. He's a trainer 90 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: at Equinox. So my thought about this before just now 91 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: learning about the phone that he broke into his girlfriend's phone, 92 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: was that maybe he was in some bipolar episode or 93 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: on steroids. White a minute, White a minute, whoa, whoa whoah. No, 94 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: he's getting away with a string of burglaries and attempted burglaries. 95 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: He is in his right mind. He went through her phone, 96 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: found guys he thought she had called, and tracked them 97 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: down and tried to kill them. But that seems to 98 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: be two different emos. This is what's confusing. There's the 99 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: string of burglaries, but then he's going after the men 100 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: that his girlfriend dated. Doesn't that seem like two different emos? No, Actually, 101 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, While it does seem like two different emos. 102 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: Modus operandi method of operation. To doctor William Maroney, let's 103 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: just say we've been around the block once or twice 104 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: with me, Doctor William Moroney, renowned medical examiner and author 105 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: of American Narcan. You can find it on Amazon. Incredible book, 106 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Moroney. The problem is us. Will we try to 107 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: put on a criminal what their EMO is? Will we 108 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: say things like, oh, it can't be him, it doesn't 109 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: fit his emo. They change their emo. Look at serial 110 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: killers throughout the past. Sometimes they stick with the same emo. 111 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes they depart. I mean, for Pete, say look at 112 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: Ted Bundy. Okay, first of all, he started out luring 113 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: women in with his charm, right, get him my BW 114 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: and I will kill you. No, we'll go out on 115 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: a date, Let's go for a walk, Let's go here, 116 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: let's go there. They end up dead. In the end, 117 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: he was getting anybody in everybody. He murdered one little 118 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: girl who's twelve or thirteen years old, just beat her dead. 119 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Then he goes into the coy Omega house and beats 120 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: everybody dead with a baseball bat. He didn't stick with 121 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the same m O. So for us to say rightfully, 122 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: as Bethany's pointed out, it's a different EMO, doesn't matter. Maroney. 123 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I think evil evolved, has it has to to continue 124 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: to be evil. If it means physical harm to other people, 125 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: it evolves to do physical harm. If it means larceny, theft, 126 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: it means larceny and theft. If it means writing bad 127 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: checks to finance itself, that's It's a very similar situation 128 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: to chronic disease. When people can't breathe, the path of 129 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: least resistance, heart failure, collecting fluids, people change the lily 130 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: they walk and breathe to accommodate their disease. Anything you 131 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: need to do to maintain evil. He's and he's obviously 132 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: wired wrong. Upstairs, Who is this guy? Jaman bugs Take 133 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: a listen to Eileen Frere ABC seven neibor say that 134 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: the suspect moved into this apartment complex here in Huntington 135 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Beach back in September. Now Newport Beach police say when 136 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: they arrested him in connection with the crimes in that city, 137 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: he was already in custody for unrelated crimes in Irvine. 138 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Police alleged Jamon Bugs is behind the double murder of 139 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: Darren Parsh, a thirty eight year old former minor league 140 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: hockey player, and forty eight year old Wendy Miller, the 141 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: founder of the nonprofit Wings for Justice. We care about 142 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: children and believe they need to be protected. Her family 143 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: says she was last seen alive leaving a bar in 144 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Laguna Beach. Friends say she had given part to ride home. 145 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: Their bodies discovered Easter Sunday inside Parch's Newport Beach home. 146 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: My auntshake. Just to know that I even said hi 147 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: to him makes me really uncomfortable to know that somebody 148 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: like that lipcar Bugs. His neighbors and Huntington Beach know 149 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: him as the well built guy. His Facebook page says 150 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: he worked as a personal trainer at Jim's and Marietta 151 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: and Huntington Beach. Not a friendly guy or anything. I 152 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: would see him, you know, just go in and out 153 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: and in and out and all the people going in 154 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: and out. One neighbor, who only wanted to be identified 155 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: as Mary Anne, recalls hearing a recent violent fight inside 156 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: the forty four year olds apartment. I look out my 157 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: window and I see a blonde woman from his apartment, 158 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and then I see him take off after her. But 159 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: I don't know who that woman was. Court record show 160 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Bugs is a convicted felon. He also had a domestic 161 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: violence hearing scheduled next month involving another woman. In unrelated cases, 162 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Police say video captures him allegedly trying to burglarize two 163 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: homes in Irvine over the weekend. He's accused of firing 164 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: his handgun at one of the houses. Police say he 165 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: was arrested Monday morning after a short pursuit and after 166 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: barricading himself in an unoccupied home. He's pleaded not guilty 167 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: to those charges. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Double murder 168 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: suspect Jamone Buggs has a long history of violent crimes 169 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: to Orange County court records. In nineteen ninety four, Bugs 170 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: committed batter and an officer in San Diego. A year later, 171 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five, there was an assault with a 172 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: deadly weapon charge Bugs had firearms violations and a charge 173 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: of grand theft in nineteen ninety six. In two thousand, 174 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: he was convicted of being a felon in possession of 175 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: a firearm. But that's not all you are hearing our 176 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: free and Stacey Butler at k c A L CBS 177 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: nine list. In the following years, he had four domestic 178 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: violence convictions and two DUIs. Just three months ago, oc 179 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: court records show bugs living girlfriend filed a domestic violence 180 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: charge and a restraining order against him. Neighbors in this 181 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Huntington Beach apartment complex say the two lived together in 182 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: this apartment about a year, but they moved out in January. 183 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Buggs moved into this apartment in Huntington Beach and his 184 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: girlfriend rented a room in this Huntington Beach home. Neighbors 185 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: on this quiet street say they often saw the couple 186 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: sitting in his car outside the home together. January fifteenth, 187 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: court records show that the girlfriend filed the charge of 188 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: domestic violence in a restraining order against Bugs. That's when 189 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: a caretaker inside this home says she saw Bugs break 190 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: into the home trying to get to his girlfriend upstairs. 191 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: The caretaker says the girlfriend called police, but before they 192 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: could get there, he took off. She moved out of 193 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: that home. No one we spoke with knows where that 194 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: girlfriend is. Employees that this Huntington Beach jeep dealership say 195 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: they have no idea. The quiet car salesman who started 196 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: working there just over a month ago had a long 197 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: criminal history. Just one week after he was doing court 198 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: for that domestic violence. Here in April eleventh, police say 199 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Bugs murdered thirty eight year old Darren Parch and forty 200 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: eight year old Wendy Miller. The two just met at 201 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: a bar last Friday night. Now he's facing two murder 202 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: charges with special circumstances. That is who Jason Bugs is. 203 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: And would you agree doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanist joining us 204 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: from LA that for every time there is a call 205 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: about a domestic relations a violent act, or when someone's 206 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: actually rested on a crime, there are dozens and dozens 207 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: of other crimes. They're never apprehended for dozens of other crimes. 208 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: And also in terms of the victim, it takes women 209 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: on average nine times to leave a domestic violence infused 210 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: relationship before they are finally able to leave for good. 211 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: So this is not the first time he aggressed against 212 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: this woman that he was in a relationship with who 213 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: finally left him. And good thing he's behind bars, he'd 214 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: probably still be stalking her. To John Cardillo joining us, 215 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: former NYPD man, you've seen it all, John, weigh in. 216 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm looking at this a little differently 217 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: than my colleagues adoptors here. Remember, the only reason there's 218 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: a working theory that he was looking for a man 219 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: that his girlfriend might have been involved with is because 220 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: a detective allegedly said that to a resident. Detectives aren't 221 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: always going to be honest with residents. Also, remember the 222 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: woman miss Miller worked with abused women. So another working 223 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: theory I bet my last dollar on it is that 224 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: they might have intercepted They might have intercepted a text 225 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: in that search warrant between his battered girlfriend or a 226 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: previous one and Miss Miller. Maybe she was counseling her, 227 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Maybe she was getting her some outreach, some help. Now, 228 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: the reason I'm not looking at these as two separate incidents, 229 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: the reason he might have kicked in other doors and 230 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: fired shots. This is an apartment complex, right, because in 231 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: townhouse complex he might have known he was looking. For example, 232 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: a white SUV was parked in front of one residence. 233 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: He kicks in the door, realizes the person he's looking 234 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: for isn't there, and he's kicking indoors until he finds 235 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: his intended victims. But one thing is for sure, Nancy 236 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: readd an estimate back when I was in a robbery 237 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: and gun unit that for every crime we caught a 238 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: guy for, he probably pulled off on average about seven 239 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: that we didn't. So with this guy's history, yeah, I 240 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: completely concur we're looking at a guy with a history 241 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: of violent crime, But I I think the motive is 242 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: still unclear. I do think though, one of the reasons 243 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: you played an initial clip that detectives told the community 244 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: there was no risk. They probably already had him on custody. 245 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: In custody, we're trying to elicit at convention. But had 246 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: the video knew they had the right guy, knew there 247 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: was some more risk to the community. We know that 248 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: professional hockey player Darren Parch and Wendy Miller found dead. 249 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Another thing to doctor William Moroney, medical examiner, author of 250 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: American Narcan The Cops also said that Wendy Miller did 251 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: not suffer that means to me, that very likely shot 252 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: her execution style once in the head. That's usually it. 253 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: There's no sign of bruising, there's no sign of blood, 254 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: there's no exanguination, and it's straightforward and simple. The only 255 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: other thing you'd use. You know, why why do you 256 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: keep saying that? Why do you keep throwing out the 257 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: word exanguination? Why don't you just say it and regular 258 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: people talk. I'm already impressed with you, Ron, I'm very 259 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: impressed with all your degrees and your experience and all 260 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: your books. People too, Okay, what's exegmination? Go ahead? It's 261 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the clinical loss of blood that leads to a fatal 262 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: event and death, usually through a large You mean you 263 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: remember last time you did that. I made you spell 264 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: it and you had to look it up. Why don't 265 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: you just say she bled out out out bled So, 266 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: doctor Moroney, when they say euphemisms like we don't believe 267 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: she suffered, that means she was shot in the head 268 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: and she was dead before she even knew what was happening. 269 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, that's my interpretation of what that 270 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: means to Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family lawyer. Let's talk 271 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: about what doctor Bethany said earlier about how many times 272 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: it takes for a domestic violence victim to finally leave. 273 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: Now we've got Wendy Miller, dad and a pro hockey play. 274 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: You're dare in part not only does it take an 275 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: enormous amount of energy to leave a domestic violence situation, 276 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: but if you're going through the court systems and you're 277 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: a victim of domestic violence, it is horrible, Nancy, It's horrible, 278 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: and they don't get any support. And the woman that 279 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: was killed in this particular case, I believe her name 280 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: is Wendy Miller. She had a foundation that helped and 281 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: supported women and men who are in domestic violence situations, 282 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: what's called Wings for Justice. And I am sickened and 283 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: heartbroken over this whole murder. And I can only say 284 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: to you that ideal on a day to day basis 285 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: with what victims of domestic violence have to go through 286 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: in the family court system, and it's a put This 287 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: guy by the name of jam On Bugs, the defendant 288 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: in this case, is the founder of a personal training 289 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: company called do It Again. All right, We also know 290 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: he has an extensive criminal pass. It's called excuse me, 291 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: do it Again? Nine and that's what I'm learning from 292 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: his LinkedIn profile. He wrote on LinkedIn, Jimon specializes in 293 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: designing trending programs for clients individual goals. I evaluate strength, balanced, flexibility, 294 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: and cardio, which is incorporated in design. In addition to 295 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: Jamon's success, is a performance enhancement specialist for do It 296 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: Again nine. Okay, you know what. He's also a convicted 297 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: felon who had just gone on a spree of crimes. 298 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: And one thing I don't get John Cardillo, former NYPD, 299 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: it's why he was out to start with. Not only 300 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: why he was out to start with. I was thinking 301 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: that us. I was looking at his rap sheet about 302 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: three seconds ago before you came to me, Nancy. But 303 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: think about something else. Who were the morons at the 304 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: car dealership who hired this career felon and allowed him 305 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: access to people's personal information and credit information. They have 306 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: credit card numbers, checking account numbers, social security numbers. I 307 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people dropped a lot of balls 308 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: with this guy over the years. He should have been 309 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: sitting in a cell somewhere, not out to kill someone, 310 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: certainly not out there. How did you put your social 311 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: security number and checking account info down? On a car 312 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Loan aff and trying to figure out what was his 313 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: real connection to Wendy Miller and or Darren Parts. What 314 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: do you think Kathleen Murphy connection to Darren because he 315 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: was stalking and intended to hurt Darren. Wendy just happened 316 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: to be there, and it's a very I'm so upset, Nancy. 317 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm so upset that both of these people were murdered. 318 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: I'm so upset that he was out. I'm so upset 319 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: at the court systems avowing him to even be out. 320 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm Nancy Grace. This is 321 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Take listen 322 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: to CBS two La. Neighbors here were anxious when police 323 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: were searching for the killer who took two lives in 324 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: one of these condos. So they are both reassured and 325 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: shocked by the news that police found their suspect already 326 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: behind bars. Take a look. Forty four year old Jemome 327 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Bugs of Huntington Beach is said to be rained today. 328 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: He is suspected of killing Costa Mesa mom, Wendy Miller, 329 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: and former minor league hockey player Darren Parch. Bugs neighbors 330 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: tell us he's a personal trainer, and his LinkedIn profile 331 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: states that he works at the Equinox Jim and Huntington Beach. 332 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: But when detectives went to look for bugs, they discovered 333 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: he had already been arrested on Monday as a suspect 334 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: in separate burglaries. The victims of the double murder here 335 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: in Newport Beach were found Sunday night by roommate they 336 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: had reportedly met earlier in the evening and had been shot. 337 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: Video now that was released by Irvine Police, which they 338 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: believe shows bugs trying to break into two other homes 339 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and one case, officers say the burglar 340 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: fired a gun when the homeowner interrupted the crime. Nobody 341 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: was hurt. Bugs Huntington Beach neighbors told us they knew 342 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: something was wrong when police entered his apartment with a 343 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: search warrant. The first burglary attempt occurred around eleven thirty 344 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: at night and was interrupted by a resident. The would 345 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: be burglar fired a single round from a gun and 346 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: that bullet was found lodged outside the home. We are 347 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: learning now, remember that's it about midnight. Then the second 348 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: case five am. What we think happened. The alleged perp 349 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: leaves the first burglary attempt and moves on. The homeowner 350 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: has reviewed surveillance video and sees someone tries to open 351 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: the front door, but no entry was made and the 352 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: would be burglar runs away. Police began investigating those two incidents, 353 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: but then what we know is that the man who 354 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: was being held and suspicion of robbing an attempted robbery 355 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: of two homes is now arrested in connection with the 356 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: murderers of a former professional hockey player and a mother 357 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: of two. And one thing I don't get, John Cardillo, 358 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: former NYPD, you and others say no connection to the victims, 359 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: which is very hard for me to believe. Kathleen Murphy, 360 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: give me your theory on his connection to Darren Parch. 361 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: His ex girlfriend had called Darren Parch for reasons that 362 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not aware of, and this stalker was going through 363 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: the phone list of his ex girlfriend's phone calls and 364 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: that's how he came upon Darren. What does that mean? 365 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Out to Bethany Marshall's Yeah, who's this Cardillo? Jump hand? Yeah, 366 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: let me jump in, because you know, I don't think 367 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: there's no connection what I'm saying is the only evidence 368 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: we have that he had a connection to Darren Parch 369 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: and not miss Miller is one anecdotal alleged comment from 370 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: a detective to a resident. That's all we have. We 371 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: have no confirmation of that. I'm as convinced that they 372 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: need to look into his connection to Miller. Miller ran 373 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: a center for battered women. I think the connection. If 374 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: I had a bet on the connection today, I'm less 375 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: inclined to believe that one anecdotal comment at the resident 376 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: who was kind of in shock that a neighbors were 377 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: murdered the accuracy of that statement. Then he found something 378 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: on the phone of one of the women he was 379 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: dating and abusing that connected that woman to Stephanie Miller, 380 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: and Miller probably advising that person to go to a shelter, 381 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to talk to the police, to have him prosecuted, to 382 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: seek a restraining order. That to me is more of 383 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: a motive. And that's why you shoot Miller dead, the 384 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: point blank in the head. You kill her. I think 385 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: he was looking for her, not the retired hockey. Interesting. 386 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Interesting to doctor Bethany Marshall. Doctor Bethany I worked at 387 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Battered Women's center for nine years, and we 388 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: had to keep everything secret, the location, the volunteers, because 389 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: of the very reason Cardillo is describing. That's right. I 390 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: raged abusers will come after you for trying to help 391 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: the battered woman. That's exactly what they do, Nancy. They 392 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: target the whole treatment center, They target the policemen who 393 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: helped the women, They target the woman's families, they target 394 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: the counselors, they target everyone. And in terms of how 395 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: he got to Miller, it's unclear if it's because she 396 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: owned the center or she was connected to a woman 397 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: she was helping. The fact that sticks out to me 398 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: the most, and maybe because I work out at Equinox 399 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: here in Beverly Hills, is that he was a trainer 400 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: at Equinox, and so he had access not only to 401 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: client financial records when he was at the car dealership, 402 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: but you're in a position of trust when you are 403 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: a trainer, and it gave him this sort of legitimacy. 404 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, equinoxes are very swanky, Jim, They're very expensive 405 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: gym memberships. They're all over in the United States, especially 406 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: the West Coast, the East Coast. The trainers there are 407 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: super friendly. They have their Instagrams, they give out their 408 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: information to everybody. Everybody gives and exchanges social media information. 409 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: So to him, he found another job that was kind 410 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: of like a hunting ground. And so this guy went 411 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: under the radar. He is his vicious homicidal doctor went 412 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: under the radar working at a car dealership and then 413 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: at a squeaky clean equinoc and nobody caught him. Nobody 414 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: caught him. Nancy Listen, Wendy Miller's son, fights back tears 415 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: as he reads a letter to his late mother at 416 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: her funeral. And Irvine today and I love you. Friends 417 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: and family packed into Mariners Church to remember the mother 418 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: of two who was murdered along with her friend Darren 419 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: Parch in Parch's Newport Beach home Easter weekend. According to 420 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: court records, the two were shot by Jaman Buggs, a 421 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Huntington Beach personal trainer. A detective believes Bugs left Parch's 422 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: residence and traveled to Irvine to commit another violent crime. 423 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: According to court records, Bugs tried to break into several 424 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: Irvine homes, including this woman's. She says detectives told her 425 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Bugs was looking for someone who was linked to his 426 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend. He was looking for someone with the same 427 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: name as my boyfriend, but he had a picture of 428 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: what the guy looked like it so I think when 429 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: he looked in and saw the two Asian guys playing games, 430 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: he knew it wasn't the guy that he was looking for, 431 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and so he left. In another attempted break in in 432 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: the same neighborhood, police say Bugs's gun went off. Court 433 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: records indicate those bullets were later connected to the bullets 434 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: fired at the double murder scene in Newport Beach, but 435 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: the time detectives linked the break ins to the homicides, 436 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: Irvine Police head managed to arrest Bugs and locate his gun. 437 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: Newport Beach then arrested Bugs for miller and purchased murders 438 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: while he was already in custody. Well, a friend of 439 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Bugs's ex girlfriend, reportedly said that Bugs was trying to 440 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: hurt him and anyone else that Bugs thought his ex 441 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: girlfriend was involved with. The ex girlfriend and Darren parton 442 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: all the message each other a few times. Typically, on 443 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: a murder charge you get life or life without parole, 444 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: but when there are two murder victims, that qualifies as 445 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: mass murder under the law, and that is a special 446 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: circumstance for which the death penalty can be sought. Crime 447 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Her name is Adeia Adaya Shabani, 448 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: Beautiful inside and out, say her close friends, who also 449 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: say they're worried, sick over the twenty five year old 450 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: who's been missing since February twenty third. We just pray 451 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: for her and hopefully she's gonna show up, her acting teacher, 452 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: saying she'd never missed a class until that faithful day 453 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: February twenty third, when she was last seen near her 454 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: apartment complex on Wilcox and Hollywood Boulevard. Since then, say sources, 455 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: her phone has not being used, and the girl who 456 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: used to post daily on her social media accounts has 457 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: gone silence. We are talking about a beautiful young girl, 458 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: a missing model. Well, a body has been found in 459 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: a shallow California grave, But what do we know. I'm 460 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 461 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: with us. Straight out to crime online dot Com investigative 462 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: reporter Lee Egan Crime Online, where you can find this 463 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: in all other breaking crime in justice news. Lee, I 464 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: want to start with how she goes missing. Tell me 465 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: that and then we'll figure out from what we know 466 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: if this is her in the Shallow Grave, Well, Nancy, 467 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: what we know is at around eleven eight m February 468 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: twenty third, twenty eighteen, she sends a text to a 469 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: friend asking for red candles, and then after that nothing, 470 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: There was no activity on any her social media accounts, 471 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: and she was extremely active on all of those no 472 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: text messages, her phone shut off shortly after her last message, 473 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: and then she's just gone completely disappeared. Joining me right now, 474 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Juvenile court judges, trial attorney. You can find her at 475 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot dot com Ashley Wilcot. That's significant. Now, that 476 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: doesn't tell me any intricacies or any details of her disappearance, 477 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: But more and more cops are looking at your cell phone, 478 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: your social media. If you're an active poster or you 479 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: live on your cell phone, you're constantly texting and then 480 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: suddenly it goes quiet. That's a big, circumstantial piece of evidence. Absolutely, 481 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: it's a great clue, especially Nancy, given this, we all 482 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: know that those who enjoy social media don't usually take 483 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: a break or not do it unless they've gone on 484 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: a little weekend trip or a vacation. But then they 485 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: go right back to the social media. So when someone 486 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: doesn't like she didn't on Monday, that's a huge clue 487 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: that there's a problem. The other thing I have to 488 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: say is, boy, does it not give you a clue 489 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: to hear that she went reached out to a friend 490 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: about getting red candles, which to me suggests a romantic weekend, 491 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: a weekend away with someone special and then disappears. Wow. 492 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that at all. I would think ray candles. Oh, 493 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm sticking away a candle holder somewhere that I hope 494 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: and pray to God the twins never lie and burn 495 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: down the house. You think romantic weekend away? Okay, I'm 496 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: just gonna take that with a box of salt. Take 497 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at KTLA. This is Rick Chambers. 498 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: They hit the sidewalk this evening here in Hollywood getting 499 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: the word out about Adia Shabani, who disappeared six days ago. 500 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to think. I 501 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: I just want to find her. The twenty five year 502 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: old actress left her apartment here at the Duet on 503 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: Wilcox in Hollywood last Friday at about noon and no 504 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: one has seen her since, which is out of character. 505 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: This is not her, This is not her. Something is 506 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: going on with her. We don't know where she's it's 507 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: just so sad. We're just hoping she's alive. At first, 508 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: friends thought Shabanni was just busy, but then she missed 509 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: an important class here at the Stella Adler Theater. So 510 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: those same friends asked the LAPD to do a welfare 511 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: check back at her apartment. You know, right there, you're 512 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: hearing what leads up to the announcement that this beautiful 513 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: young actress Adia Shabani has gone missing. It she really 514 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: is gorgeous. In the acting world, you know, you meet 515 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: so many different people. You're constantly going for tryouts and auditions. 516 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: To Karen Start joining me psychologist at Karen Stark dot 517 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: com joining me today out of New York, Karen start, 518 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. You know, Karen, in 519 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: that line of business, you're constantly meeting different people at 520 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: all of these ads. It's not like a lot of 521 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: people go to their office every day and they're around 522 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: the same people every day, So you kind of have 523 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: a smaller group of people to suspect when you're out 524 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: doing auditions, traveling from one place to the next, trying 525 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: to get a gig. It really widens up the scope 526 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: of investigation. It does, It definitely does. But she had 527 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: so many people that she was staying in touch with 528 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: and so many friends that after a while she knew 529 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: enough people that they were worried about her. And I 530 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: success that under those circumstances, they really didn't know her 531 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: and they understood that something was definitely wrong. You know, 532 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about the discovery of a body in 533 00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: a shallow grave. Here is Katie TV's Feel Human Listen 534 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: a shallow grave. This is about fifty miles north of Sacramento. 535 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: The LAPD says they believe the remains are Shabanis. That 536 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: is not one hundred percent. They do not yet have 537 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: a cause of death, or they are saying they believed 538 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: that Shabani was the victim of a homicide. Let's hear 539 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: from Captain Hayes. Los Angeles pushed divers were searching that 540 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: area and walking the shores. There was a water's edge 541 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: where they found what they believed to be a shallow grave. 542 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: When we checked it, we were able to determine that 543 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: it contained human remains, but because of the condition of 544 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: the area, we were not able to recover the body immediately. 545 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go out to our friend, 546 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: doctor William Maroney, Deputy Medical Examiner, Bay County, Michigan, author 547 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: of American narcan on Amazon to doctor William Moroney, how 548 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: do you go about identifying remains that have been out 549 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: in the desert in a shallow grave and what does 550 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: that temperature and those circumstances due to the body. The 551 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: first thing you have to look at is a chart 552 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: of humidity and temperature to judge backwards and calculate how 553 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: old or how long it's been there. And that's going 554 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: to entail entomology, the study of insects that eat carrion 555 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: and carnage and break the body down after gaseous discomposition. 556 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Anybody outside any not anybody like like all you buddies, 557 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: but a body, any body is going to go through 558 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: regular decomposition, which could take you know, a couple of 559 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: days in warm weather, a couple of weeks it's cool. 560 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: But bugs, flies, gnats, and maggots break the body down 561 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: based on temperature and humidity and if they can colllect, 562 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: blow fly, larva and dated. You know, I always hear that, 563 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: doctor Moroni. I always hear when you're looking at forensic etymology, 564 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: in other words, the age of bugs that have been 565 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: attracted to the body. It's kind of it's not terribly new, 566 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: but in the big history of forensics it's new. And 567 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: I always hear about blow fly. It develops at a 568 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: certain rate, and if you look at the rate of 569 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: the development of the maggot, you can tell how long 570 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: it's been there. You know how long it takes for 571 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: a maggot to appear, and that way you can kind 572 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: of determine roughly the time of death. How does it work? 573 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: If you could break it down from in words, we 574 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: can all understand, doctor Moroni. The first insect to be 575 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: drawn to a dead body based on smell and composition 576 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: is the blowfly. And the blowfly sets up eggs that 577 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: hatch in a couple of days and then help decomposition 578 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: and eat tissue, and then they grow through stages that 579 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: take a various number of partial weeks, and then those 580 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: maggots turn into flies themselves and they're able to trace that. 581 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott joining us, this guy, this person of interest, 582 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: Chris Spots. What do you believe was at the heart 583 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: of her murder? Crime of passion? I think no matter what, 584 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: hands down, this is a crime of passion. Something about 585 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: again leaving with the suitcases, with the red candles, the 586 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: fact that she had the trauma that she endured, where 587 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: she was buried, how far away. I think it was 588 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: a crime of passion. And they said, oh, he's got 589 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: to do something with this body, and this is what 590 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. As she Wilcott, I agree with you 591 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: because this guy, thirty three year old Chris Spots, had 592 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: been Adia's boyfriend, okay, and he had been engaged to 593 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: another woman. We know that there was a high speed 594 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: police chase. At the end, he kills himself. Why would 595 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: he do that if he were not somehow involved with this? 596 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: If you have information, tipline two three four eight six 597 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: six eight nine zero. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off 598 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,