Speaker 1: Yeah, hello, everyone, to be creaking and you.
Speaker 2: Are listening to Eyes up here the iHeartRadio Network or
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Speaker 3: Along for the ride is my co host Chad. Chad,
Speaker 3: what is up? My brother?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Chilling like a villain?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 3: Yo?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that's right?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 3: Feeling funky today? I was just jamming to her two.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 6: I know, I get caught up in it sometimes it's great.
Speaker 6: It just it's grown on me, like like.
Speaker 5: They say the plague.
Speaker 3: He hated it, guys, I hate it.
Speaker 5: I just wasn't in love with it.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it from day one and
Speaker 3: I love it. Now. How's everything doing you good?
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to start off pretty hot today. We
Speaker 2: have a special guest that I'm excited to talk to
Speaker 2: and he's going to be coming on in just a
Speaker 2: few minutes. But until he comes on, trying to think
Speaker 2: of what's happening. We got our bathroom floor done and
Speaker 2: it looks spectacular. Now I'm looking for a painter, so
Speaker 2: we're getting it painted, and we're getting new uh, I
Speaker 2: have quarts now, we're getting new countertops and I think
Speaker 2: we're getting a new new sinks, double sinks put in
Speaker 2: and uh so what I'm trying to say is my
Speaker 2: bathroom is a wreck right now because there's so much
Speaker 2: work being done on it. But that's what's going on
Speaker 2: in the Queen's cost. Uh, just the redoing one room
Speaker 2: at a time, slowly but surely. I know, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to catch up to your house. Your house is
Speaker 2: just your house is like one of those houses in
Speaker 2: Good Housekeeping. Oh my gosh, you open, you open, you
Speaker 2: open the book and there's the house of the day.
Speaker 2: It's a it's debute Clark, isn't you abute clerk?
Speaker 5: I appreciate you saying that, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it ain't easy to keep up.
Speaker 3: So no, I'm sure it's not. But that's what we've
Speaker 3: been doing.
Speaker 2: We've been trying to fix up around here, and slowly
Speaker 2: but surely it's coming along.
Speaker 3: The one day I tried to paint, I tried to
Speaker 3: help out the guy.
Speaker 2: We were painting the crown molding and we had to
Speaker 2: remove it.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, I'll help you out. So
Speaker 3: I did the first.
Speaker 2: Coat and he comes up to me and he goes,
Speaker 2: don't do the second one, and he's like, yeah, he goes,
Speaker 2: You're not really doing it that good.
Speaker 3: It took me forever to do the first coat, and
Speaker 3: I took offense to that I had paint all over me.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you know, try to help people.
Speaker 2: It just didn't work out. So a painter I am not.
Speaker 2: But anyway, he finished the job and it looks beautiful.
Speaker 6: I like I could do it, you know, I like it.
Speaker 6: We did a couple of there were some accent walls
Speaker 6: in this house. Yeah, and we did them. But I
Speaker 6: really gotta be focused because if I'm not, I gotta
Speaker 6: walk away or it's gonna be real shitty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I said to myself.
Speaker 2: At first I looked and I was like, oh, maybe
Speaker 2: I can conquer the bathroom. And then I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm gonna hire someone.
Speaker 6: So now we're looking for Bathrooms are tough, Yeah, because
Speaker 6: of those little little spots where you have vents and
Speaker 6: the lighting. Bathrooms are super tough.
Speaker 2: Not only that, but I want my cabinets painted, so
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't think I can.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I do that, it's gonna be shitty.
Speaker 5: Bathrooms are shitty. That's the moral of the story.
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be like really bad, so I said, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try so looking for a painter right now.
Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, tackling one room at
Speaker 2: a time. We're changing my son's room to Star Wars.
Speaker 2: We have all we have curtains, we have posters, we
Speaker 2: have bedding, like everything is Star Wars now. He's really
Speaker 2: excited because he's been getting into Star Wars. So we're
Speaker 2: transitioning his room right now into that and just big
Speaker 2: changes around here.
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on.
Speaker 5: So weird, isn't it weird?
Speaker 6: There's never been a Getmick where there's been a wrestling painter.
Speaker 6: There hasn't, No, I don't think so. There's been like Beatnicks,
Speaker 6: but never like a wrestler that's a painter.
Speaker 3: Nick is a Is that a poet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: Beat Nick's like a hippie, like a was.
Speaker 3: The guy that led the what was his name, Adam?
Speaker 3: Was he a hippie?
Speaker 5: Adam Rose?
Speaker 3: Adam Rose.
Speaker 5: He's just like a party guy.
Speaker 3: He was a party guy.
Speaker 5: Oh the Exotic Express the Yeah, we should.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at some of these gimmicks one day,
Speaker 2: because I swore there was kind of like a painter.
Speaker 3: I mean there was.
Speaker 6: I'm sure our guests would probably enlighten us whenever he
Speaker 6: comes on, So he probably have a good.
Speaker 5: Idea of it.
Speaker 3: I need to ask him.
Speaker 6: Imagine he's always like so wrapped up in his work
Speaker 6: that like to go wrestle his match would like distract
Speaker 6: him and that would be like the start of an angle.
Speaker 6: Is that you knock over his painting set? Or is
Speaker 6: a you know, was his easel?
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't remember. I thought there was. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Don't bother me while I'm worshiping on my work of art.
Speaker 3: There should have been or a sculptor. Was there a sculptor?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, well, you know there's been a wrestlers sculpted.
Speaker 5: You know who were you know? Made out of works
Speaker 5: of art?
Speaker 3: Most of them are what I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Well, listen he is he's been known as the Savior
Speaker 6: of the Unwashed masses? Is that not the greatest like
Speaker 6: surname ever for a professional wrestlers.
Speaker 3: I think he's royalty in NWA, isn't he? He comes
Speaker 3: down in these elaborate roots.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got one of the greatest fashion senses
Speaker 6: I think in the history of wrestling. Now, he's probably
Speaker 6: one of the greatest overall personalities in wrestling history.
Speaker 3: He seems like.
Speaker 2: He's a very distinguished human being to me, Aaron High, Honey.
Speaker 3: Can you hear us?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm awesome?
Speaker 3: Thank you Aaron Stevens.
Speaker 2: Everyone, we were supposed to give you this wonderful you know,
Speaker 2: lead in and he shared the bed number one, So I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: We were we were just having get discussion. Was there
Speaker 2: a wrestler who was a painter. Do you remember any
Speaker 2: wrestlers who had a painting gimmick or a painter gimmick?
Speaker 4: I mean like d X, I know, like painted people
Speaker 4: of green, but like that, I like I was, I'm
Speaker 4: assuming you're going in like the Bob Ross vein. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I cannot remember. I can't remember one. I know that,
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to think now, h yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's certainly not at a level that was
Speaker 4: like nationally known, right or internationally known.
Speaker 3: I don't think that. Maybe think about that for your
Speaker 3: next gimmick, because.
Speaker 6: That painter sculptor something like.
Speaker 3: That, that might be a winner. Aaron.
Speaker 4: You know what, I will I would try to make
Speaker 4: it work.
Speaker 2: Work that down, I think that I would try to
Speaker 2: make it work. I think you would excel at that.
Speaker 2: How are you, by the way, thank you for coming
Speaker 2: on today.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm great. How are you? How is everything doing
Speaker 4: doing well?
Speaker 2: I finally got to meet Aaron uh last year, never
Speaker 2: met him.
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: There are so many people in this business I've never met.
Speaker 2: I think it's because I don't get out too.
Speaker 4: Much, exactly like I just did that for Nova.
Speaker 2: Yes, so at Nova's retirement, which I think he'll come back,
Speaker 2: I don't really think we're never going to see him again.
Speaker 2: But Aaron was there, and I was so excited to
Speaker 2: meet you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was so glad that that we got
Speaker 3: to talk a little bit and hang out.
Speaker 2: Did you want that show that night because I kind
Speaker 2: of powdered after the convention.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: The reason I was there is because you know, Nova said, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm retiring, and he wanted to do a six man
Speaker 4: because Frankie Kazarian was his partner on the indies for
Speaker 4: a long time, like in between E c W and WWE,
Speaker 4: and then he and I were tag partners in OVW
Speaker 4: on Cornett and everything. So like we we became close.
Speaker 4: I'm godfather to his daughter.
Speaker 3: I know you are.
Speaker 4: I love him. So it's just like he wanted me
Speaker 4: there and I was like, hey man, yeah, absolutely, like
Speaker 4: this is your retirement, will do it. And it was
Speaker 4: just a fun show. But it was funny because Miss
Speaker 4: Francine got to find out what a horrible independent wrestler
Speaker 4: I would make.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I just like we did a signing, I was just
Speaker 4: like not talking to me. I was I just don't
Speaker 4: have the like, yeah, I don't have the patience for
Speaker 4: a lot of things.
Speaker 3: And so here's my take on this. You were adorable.
Speaker 3: I have to say it.
Speaker 2: I sat at a table between Kevin Kelly and Nova. Okay,
Speaker 2: so Aaron was like Caddy Corner at his table, but
Speaker 2: he was never there. And I'm saying to myself, where
Speaker 2: is he? Like why isn't he sign? And Novah goes, oh,
Speaker 2: this kid can't sit still. He's all over the place.
Speaker 2: You'll never see him sitting still. And every time, like
Speaker 2: I would sign an autograph and I would look up,
Speaker 2: he'd be walking that way, or then he'd be walking
Speaker 2: that way, or he'd come over at us and say
Speaker 2: something and then he'd walk away.
Speaker 3: I was like, why are you not sitting at your table?
Speaker 3: And you were just like I can't do this. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is part of the profession. Do you
Speaker 3: not like it? Or is it just are you irritable?
Speaker 3: Are you nervous to me?
Speaker 4: No, because like, like so the thing is like okay.
Speaker 4: For when when I was in WWE, which again, and
Speaker 4: I I will admit this wholeheartedly, for the vast majority
Speaker 4: of my career, I've kind of been spoiled in the
Speaker 4: sense of like, look, I've yes, I put in the
Speaker 4: work to make it, but then I always had someone
Speaker 4: telling me where to be. I've had a handler to
Speaker 4: make sure that I I don't have to worry about
Speaker 4: like exchanging money and like all that stuff like bringing
Speaker 4: your own eight by tens. I didn't bring eight by
Speaker 4: tens because I always thought no le generally, and I've
Speaker 4: been I've been in this since ninety eight, like people
Speaker 4: are going to provide them, like and even in Puerto
Speaker 4: Rico when I was with Carlos, where you know, whatever
Speaker 4: we were going through, you know, like we would well
Speaker 4: whatever drama was going on in Puerto Rico, Like I
Speaker 4: always had kind of a baby's and I just you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's my thing. We all have shortcomings. I have many.
Speaker 4: That is one of them. And I am not a
Speaker 4: very good independent wrestler and I'm not a like I
Speaker 4: just I just don't.
Speaker 2: But when okay, but when Nova booked you for this,
Speaker 2: or Donnie b or whoever you talk to, yeah, let
Speaker 2: me tell you, like bring merch. Because there was one
Speaker 2: point where you leaned over in my ear and whispered,
Speaker 2: I don't even have any pictures, and I just started laughing.
Speaker 4: No. I had to borrow Sharpie from Sargeants slaughter because
Speaker 4: like I I was like, I went over to talk
Speaker 4: to him, We're talking and stuff. I'm like yeah, and
Speaker 4: he goes, oh, I'll just have mine, and I mean,
Speaker 4: God bless him. He was a wonderful man. And that
Speaker 4: was cool about that night, Like I got to see
Speaker 4: people I hadn't seen in a minute, right, and it
Speaker 4: was good. And but like again, there's positives of it,
Speaker 4: which is why I was, I think walking around a lot.
Speaker 4: But I just, honestly, friend, I've never ever just been
Speaker 4: the kind of guy to like, oh, these are my
Speaker 4: eight by tens and set them up. That's just it's
Speaker 4: not something I really like. It's part of the business
Speaker 4: that I'm completely ignorant to for the most part.
Speaker 3: Well, you learned, you know now if you need to
Speaker 3: bring something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but luckily, luckily takes care of that for me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And we're gonna talk.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about you there in a minute,
Speaker 2: but I'll never I'm watching you. I was so entertained
Speaker 2: because you were like, it was like a little wind
Speaker 2: up toy. You were just bouncing from here to there,
Speaker 2: and you had your table was blank, you had no
Speaker 2: merch on your table, and you never sat.
Speaker 3: In your chair.
Speaker 4: It was great.
Speaker 3: You were great.
Speaker 4: You were very, very entertaining.
Speaker 3: I want to start.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about how you get into business,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I want to talk about what I
Speaker 2: liked about you. I loved the angle with you in
Speaker 2: the miss and I'm sure you got that a lot.
Speaker 2: When I watched wrestling, I don't watch much. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: one hundred percent honest. I keep up on social media
Speaker 2: mainly because I don't have time to watch twenty hours
Speaker 2: of wrestling. You know, I got kids, I got a family,
Speaker 2: I got Yeah, But when I did watch you were
Speaker 2: always one of my favorites because and my husband will
Speaker 2: tell you he can back this up. You and the
Speaker 2: miz were so entertaining, and I just I fell in
Speaker 2: love with your character because it was there was so
Speaker 2: much acting wise, not even like working, like wrestling, like
Speaker 2: acting wise. And I did go to your wiki really
Speaker 2: quickly just to just to freshen up a little bit.
Speaker 2: And it says that you want to act, You're aspiring
Speaker 2: to do some acting now.
Speaker 3: Anybody can write on Wiki.
Speaker 4: I know that it said. I I mean no, I've
Speaker 4: like done stuff.
Speaker 3: It says I think if you go there now.
Speaker 2: It said something like he's open to different roles in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 4: I can't stand Wikipedia because there was a lot of
Speaker 4: false information about me on there, and I wrote them.
Speaker 4: I wrote them a very kind letter and they're like,
Speaker 4: first of all, it isn't your Wikipedia page, no one
Speaker 4: owns it. And I'm like, yeah, but like there's a
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff on there that's not true about me
Speaker 4: as well. We'll have our fact checkers. I'm like, dude
Speaker 4: or madam whoever it was. Because they didn't sign it,
Speaker 4: I was like, just hey, I kind of like I
Speaker 4: know what's going on with me, and this ain't it
Speaker 4: you know, wait.
Speaker 3: A minute, you need a fact checker for you.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, like like someone like some weirdo
Speaker 4: took control of my page and I can't even make
Speaker 4: edits to it. And there's so that they have the
Speaker 4: worst picture of me. I think it's someone that doesn't
Speaker 4: like me because they have the worst picture of me
Speaker 4: on there, and I like, out of all the pictures
Speaker 4: of me, it's just horrible. And then there's a bunch
Speaker 4: of false information. No, like I've when I when I
Speaker 4: left WW yeah hard, Why are you putting that on there? Dude?
Speaker 4: Come on wait she had to say this.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, my picture I'm eight months pregnant.
Speaker 4: It was like through my according to that picture, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I can't she had to see it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Call the text message.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, but seriously, it's your page. So you're
Speaker 2: trying to fix things that are false and they're telling
Speaker 2: you we can't do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like that was years ago, and I
Speaker 4: was just like, okay, whatever, I don't like because my
Speaker 4: old thing is when I like, I was in like
Speaker 4: when I left WW. You know, it was a it
Speaker 4: was time for me to leave. Let's say and in
Speaker 4: terms of my relationship with kind of people in the
Speaker 4: administration or the office as we say in the biz biz.
Speaker 4: And it was time for me to leave, and I
Speaker 4: was like, okay, I'm gonna go do acting. And I
Speaker 4: left and Impact I did some shows with them, and
Speaker 4: then there was an administration changed there and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, Okay, I'm good. So I had kind
Speaker 4: of gone out, you know, Hollywood, I've gotten in. I've
Speaker 4: done you know, a bunch of network shows and stuff
Speaker 4: like was actually like did a couple of movies and
Speaker 4: things were we're starting a roll, booked an episode of
Speaker 4: Magnum p I as the lead heel. This was Hawaii
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen. This was like it was like late
Speaker 4: augu Yeah, it was Labor Day weekend and I had
Speaker 4: like three or four days off in Hawaii, so it
Speaker 4: was great. I'm laying on the beach and Billy called
Speaker 4: me from Billy Corgan FORWA, like, hey, we're doing TV.
Speaker 4: You need to come. No, I don't, I'm retired. I'm
Speaker 4: actually like starting this. He goes, well, you already have
Speaker 4: a ticket, just come on. And then when I first
Speaker 4: went to NWA, like I finished up the gig there
Speaker 4: and went to Georgia and I was just like whoa
Speaker 4: Like it was the old school field, the studio. It
Speaker 4: was like the essence of what I grew up loving
Speaker 4: and pre COVID, which we did about I think three
Speaker 4: television tapings, so we had about three months worth the TV,
Speaker 4: maybe four months worth of TV. And from there, you know,
Speaker 4: again twenty twenty happened. Things were on pause as a company.
Speaker 4: You know, we've survived and found ourselves in a post
Speaker 4: pandemic world, and I think in the last several months
Speaker 4: we have truly hit our stride as a company, and
Speaker 4: that is that's just a wonderful place to be because
Speaker 4: it you know, it ignites the pardon me that I
Speaker 4: never thought I would get in touch with again as
Speaker 4: a performer, right because like, acting is wonderful and I
Speaker 4: love it and I know it's great. You know, it's
Speaker 4: it's like it's nice to have a union when they're
Speaker 4: not on strike, which thank god, the strike's ended. But
Speaker 4: there's also like the the instant feedback you get from
Speaker 4: fans and in my opinion, like the live performance of
Speaker 4: it is it's just the coolest thing in the world.
Speaker 4: And when I see wrestling today where it is such
Speaker 4: like and I'm not knocking this, I think they're amazing
Speaker 4: athletes today, but like, the vast majority of what we
Speaker 4: see is choreographed acrobatics and you're seeing that, And again,
Speaker 4: I think that's because of a number of reasons, not
Speaker 4: the least of which is social media, when we consume
Speaker 4: things much faster these days, when it's like we want
Speaker 4: a ten second thing on Instagram or a thirty second
Speaker 4: thing right where it's you see a person do this
Speaker 4: crazy move, oh my god, and then you kind of
Speaker 4: go scrolling onto the next thing. And I think a
Speaker 4: lot of aspiring wrestlers or slash wrestlers today work to
Speaker 4: that particular niche. But I think in terms of the
Speaker 4: overall template of our business where no, we're storytelling and
Speaker 4: you have to care about the people in the ring,
Speaker 4: not the moves they're doing. And I'm not saying like
Speaker 4: for any when that's listening to this, it's not like, oh,
Speaker 4: just because I can't do a four fifty splash, I
Speaker 4: don't want you to do. No, like, do what you do,
Speaker 4: but make them care care about you. Make him care
Speaker 4: about you doing the move, not the move itself. You
Speaker 4: look at Raymisterio and WCW his quote unquote work rate
Speaker 4: And I hate that word because it's used by people
Speaker 4: who have never taken a bump, you know, work rate, Like,
Speaker 4: come on, you don't even know what working is, right,
Speaker 4: So his work rate was much higher to their standards
Speaker 4: in terms of he did more moves, right, he did
Speaker 4: way more moves and way more flashy stuff. But he
Speaker 4: was never more popular than when he was in WWE.
Speaker 4: And although he did amazing things, it was presented in
Speaker 4: a way that the fan could digest and care that
Speaker 4: he was the guy doing it. Like the six one
Speaker 4: nine is not remotely, excuse me, as impressive as some
Speaker 4: of the other moves Ray Asterio does on site, but
Speaker 4: the six one nine is the most overthing he has,
Speaker 4: and that's because it was presented the right way. So
Speaker 4: what we're trying to do at NWA is present the
Speaker 4: product in a way that not only will highlight the individual,
Speaker 4: but is better for the fan to be emotionally invested in.
Speaker 4: You know, we're selling emotion, or at least we're trying to.
Speaker 2: You're trying to do You don't have to answer this
Speaker 2: if you don't want to, but how negatively do you
Speaker 2: think that cocaine spot from the pay per view impacted
Speaker 2: the company as a whole?
Speaker 4: Well, no, here's job. I mean, I'll answer anything. Right,
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, I don't want.
Speaker 2: To get your heated, billy, because you know that's the
Speaker 2: last thing I want to do.
Speaker 3: So if you don't want to answer, you don't have to.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think look like with anything with
Speaker 4: any company, if you look at not just wrestling, Like,
Speaker 4: let's let's take this into the real world. Right, Look,
Speaker 4: decisions are made, right, good, bad, and different. Hey, decisions
Speaker 4: are made. Now do I think it negatively impacted the company? No?
Speaker 4: If you want my honest opinion and the long term,
Speaker 4: we just came off one of the best shows we've
Speaker 4: ever had in Sarasota. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 4: the pictures of it, but we have a packed house, right,
Speaker 4: we have, you know, again, a roster that is growing
Speaker 4: and getting better every single day. You know, there's really
Speaker 4: a move in there where you have the people who've
Speaker 4: been around a little longer trying to teach the younger people,
Speaker 4: like what I just said about presenting yourselves a certain
Speaker 4: way on television to make you a star, Right, because
Speaker 4: it helps you and it helps the product and for
Speaker 4: every bump in the road, no pun intended, although that's
Speaker 4: a funny one. Like we I mean, look, we survived
Speaker 4: the pandemic, you know where people thought we were on
Speaker 4: life support. There are a lot of people that are
Speaker 4: just gaining like.
Speaker 3: Momentum.
Speaker 4: No, you know what. And I'll put this in a
Speaker 4: simple as simple terms as I can. We are gaining.
Speaker 4: It is a grassroots thing, show by show and I
Speaker 4: actually posted this like or a kind of an abbreviated version.
Speaker 4: Every time we do a show somewhere for the first time,
Speaker 4: people come up and not just one or two like wow,
Speaker 4: I never I've never been to a show like this.
Speaker 4: This was awesome. This is something for everybody, and it
Speaker 4: just goes on and on and on. And there is
Speaker 4: a vibe at an NWA show and again like you
Speaker 4: know Pat Kaney, Simon Diamond, Yeah, you know, Pat is
Speaker 4: talent relations guy there and and he kind of said, like, look,
Speaker 4: there is an EACW vibe in the sense of like
Speaker 4: we are the alternative today, Like we're not EASW, We're
Speaker 4: the NWA, but if you look at the product today,
Speaker 4: we are the alternative in fact, like we're the ones
Speaker 4: who you know from Billy, and it's it's comes from
Speaker 4: the top as a leader. And I'll speak to this
Speaker 4: the kind of leader that Billy Corgan is. You know,
Speaker 4: he has the courage to say, this is the way
Speaker 4: the product should be presented, let's do it, and he
Speaker 4: takes those risks and you know the decisions that he
Speaker 4: makes in terms of giving talent freedom, and it's it's incredible,
Speaker 4: like I've never worked for a boss or I've never
Speaker 4: worked in a place where I have had more creative freedom.
Speaker 4: And you know the flip side of that is, I've
Speaker 4: never worked for a place where I've had more loyalty,
Speaker 4: truly loyalty. A lot of companies they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, we're our family, and especially that I've worked
Speaker 4: for before, Oh, welcome to our family. No, No, it's
Speaker 4: it's jargon. It is corporate jargon like everything else. And and
Speaker 4: that's just it's not a knock, right, it's just it's
Speaker 4: it is what it is. At NWA, we don't say
Speaker 4: we're family because we are. We literally like and I'm
Speaker 4: not this I won't get into because this is behind
Speaker 4: the scenes stuff and it's nothing bad. It's just I
Speaker 4: believe that, you know, when you go into a locker room,
Speaker 4: it's still sacred. And what goes on behind the scenes,
Speaker 4: sure keep that amongst ourselves. So I'll talk about stuff,
Speaker 4: but you'll never see me like throwing people under the
Speaker 4: bus or talking about people unless it's Santino of course
Speaker 4: that I you know, without their permission. So like we
Speaker 4: are truly dependent on each other to make a show
Speaker 4: go on. I mean the wedding episode I did when
Speaker 4: I married, like it was back in January or February,
Speaker 4: where with my yes with May who I love her,
Speaker 4: she's wonderful. Like there was travel issues. Both Billy and
Speaker 4: Pat couldn't make it because there was like twelve hundred
Speaker 4: feet of snow on the ground. Wow, we had to,
Speaker 4: Like I mean, you talk about people banning together and
Speaker 4: and really kind of like making something happen. And that's
Speaker 4: it's like that every show. But it's a pleasure to
Speaker 4: work with Billy and like when when people you know,
Speaker 4: for every fan we gain or I should say for
Speaker 4: every hundred fans we gain, right, And it is like
Speaker 4: this is a grassroots it's a brick by brick kind
Speaker 4: of thing that we're doing for every hundred people that
Speaker 4: love us. There's one person with a Twitter account that
Speaker 4: will try to sling shade and post and there was,
Speaker 4: you know, an issue of the internet said one thing
Speaker 4: and like oh, NWA's it's this, it's that, And you
Speaker 4: know where I had a friend of mine call me
Speaker 4: and tell me this, and I'm like, hey, dude, you
Speaker 4: know I work there, right like if if I have
Speaker 4: an issue, like I can call my boss or my
Speaker 4: boss is right like I'm I'm fine, Like stop, and
Speaker 4: we all kind of went into the show in Sarasota
Speaker 4: of like all right, like you want to talk about us,
Speaker 4: You want to kind of like if you need, like
Speaker 4: if if somebody feels a need, you know, if they're
Speaker 4: a wrestling fan and they need to like sling shade
Speaker 4: or put their their hate speech and and someone as
Speaker 4: like this just whipping mule, they will pick us. And
Speaker 4: you know what our attitude is, we don't care because
Speaker 4: our product speaks for itself and you can do whatever
Speaker 4: you want. But you know what, we know who we
Speaker 4: are as a company. We know who we are, we
Speaker 4: know where we're going. And you know what, if you
Speaker 4: don't like it, don't watch because there's a lot of
Speaker 4: other people when you see us live and you go
Speaker 4: to a show and you experience the atmosphere there because
Speaker 4: the thing is as interdependent and I don't want to
Speaker 4: in term close because it's not like everyone hangs out
Speaker 4: after the show, even though we all kind of do like,
Speaker 4: but the interdependentness in terms of our livelihoods depend on
Speaker 4: each other. Uh, it is very, very kind of tangible
Speaker 4: and and it translates to our product. And that's you know,
Speaker 4: we've often joked and said we're the Island of misfit toys,
Speaker 4: which yeah, you know something about that. Yeah, which again
Speaker 4: another ECW reference. But we are if you look at us, right,
Speaker 4: we're like you know, the ones that people oh they
Speaker 4: don't didn't standing in or were a little too individualistic.
Speaker 4: I will not use the term eccentric or crazy in
Speaker 4: my case, but uh, whoever, for whatever reason. Right, But
Speaker 4: it's a place where we want to make something, and
Speaker 4: it's a place where you know, again we can carry
Speaker 4: the banner of the tradition, but we can carry it
Speaker 4: into the future where we want to go.
Speaker 2: And that that is a great answer Number one and
Speaker 2: number two, I.
Speaker 3: Think I gave the same speech in nineteen.
Speaker 2: Ninety six because everything that you just said, I could
Speaker 2: say about ECW back in the day, we were that
Speaker 2: alternative brand that we were the island of misfit toys.
Speaker 2: We were the guys that you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: us were homegrown, but a lot of us didn't get
Speaker 2: a chance to, you know, shine in other companies. And
Speaker 2: Paul saw something in us and Billy sees something in
Speaker 2: you guys. So it's it's the same story decades later,
Speaker 2: and I see a lot of us in your locker room.
Speaker 2: Because the way you say we're fighting for each other
Speaker 2: and we're fighting for the company.
Speaker 3: We felt the same way.
Speaker 2: You know, if I make you shine and you make
Speaker 2: me shine, it's good for us as a team, it's
Speaker 2: good for the company.
Speaker 3: So that's a great work ethic to have.
Speaker 2: As far as like the houses go, we've been talking about,
Speaker 2: like we had Bubba on the show Billy Ray right,
Speaker 2: So we were just asking him how impact is growing
Speaker 2: and how they're taking that slow climb and they're starting
Speaker 2: to maybe venture off and do bigger shows after you know,
Speaker 2: twenty something years being around. You see aew and you
Speaker 2: see a lot and I'm not trying to knock them,
Speaker 2: but my point was. You see a lot of empty
Speaker 2: seats in the buildings when they run. And like, my
Speaker 2: philosophy is, why isn't Tony Kahan buying smaller venues, making
Speaker 2: it more intimate, you know, better looking on TV? Because
Speaker 2: you know, fans today with social media is killing this business.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, these fans are just they'll take video
Speaker 2: and take pictures and oh, look it's so empty here
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like I just in a way, I'm glad we didn't
Speaker 2: have social media back when when I was working, because
Speaker 2: it can really destroy you mentally and physically as a person,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so for these people
Speaker 2: to be showing the venues half empty and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And now you're telling us you guys are taking it
Speaker 2: slow and building it brick by brick. I feel that
Speaker 2: that's the right way to do it, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like Tony Khan has all this money
Speaker 2: and he's dumping it into these fifteen thousand seed arenas,
Speaker 2: and if you're only drawing five to six thousand people,
Speaker 2: why why get that?
Speaker 3: Why waste the money?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again like I would like to your point, Yes,
Speaker 4: I agree with everything you say, Francine. It's I don't
Speaker 4: know what kind of a businessman Tony is like Otherwise
Speaker 4: I've never met the man. Obviously, you know he loves
Speaker 4: the business, which is the not only the cornerstone with
Speaker 4: the foundation really of being successful at this you have
Speaker 4: to to some degree love it to the point of
Speaker 4: being able to understand it on the level that you
Speaker 4: need to make money, right, And that's that's kind of
Speaker 4: I know it's a little deep, but you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying on that now, if it is doing it
Speaker 4: to create like the illusion of in hopes to say,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, we want more people coming because we're at
Speaker 4: this arena and AW is on par with any other
Speaker 4: company in the world, then hey, if you got the
Speaker 4: money and you're doing it great. Now. If I was
Speaker 4: Tony Kahan, and again I'm not obviously like I would
Speaker 4: focus on creating your stars. There is no need wardlow
Speaker 4: who was hot?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And I don't really watch wrestling, but again, social media,
Speaker 4: what's going on? Why would you cool somebody off like that?
Speaker 4: You know that you need to build stars, and you
Speaker 4: need to focus on stars. There's a lot of rosters
Speaker 4: that are way too big, and if you trim your
Speaker 4: roster down, focus on growing the talent that you have
Speaker 4: and not just throwing things out there. Look like there
Speaker 4: are no three lets WWE is it is an exception
Speaker 4: because again Vince's turned it into a juggernaut, right, but
Speaker 4: no three letters? Like will people say like, oh hey
Speaker 4: that they're in town, let's go buy a ticket?
Speaker 5: Right? Like?
Speaker 4: Because AEW just needs I think more more, just years,
Speaker 4: right for AEW to be a viable company with WB,
Speaker 4: time is the only thing that will make it happen.
Speaker 4: And again with Tony sticking around maybe playing the long game,
Speaker 4: and if that's what he's doing, that's great, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: So again I'm not gonna knock anyone's business strategy. But again,
Speaker 4: if I was in charge of creative, they're like, okay,
Speaker 4: like we got some really talented people. Let us put
Speaker 4: the time and effort to building them so the fans
Speaker 4: have equity in them, right, build stars. Stars aren't going
Speaker 4: out doing a match and coming back. No, No, you
Speaker 4: need to plan things. You need to have months in
Speaker 4: advance where you would like to go. How would you
Speaker 4: like the people to perceive this person or not and look,
Speaker 4: these are just things that I mean, hey, I'm just
Speaker 4: a former wrestler kind of just spitballing here, but like
Speaker 4: these are things that you need to kind of think
Speaker 4: about if you want to grow long term. And you
Speaker 4: said something about us believing or Billy believing in us,
Speaker 4: right as talent, there's there's been enough time that has
Speaker 4: gone by in this era of NWA where like there's
Speaker 4: been very good talent that's come and gone and for
Speaker 4: whatever reason, they don't go there. But like the really
Speaker 4: kind of like the veteran guys that are there now.
Speaker 4: Not only does Billy believe in us, we believe in him.
Speaker 4: And that's that's what makes the NWA different. Like that
Speaker 4: is what Like Billy doesn't have, you know, a billion
Speaker 4: dollar reserve like WWE and like aw again, he's not
Speaker 4: poor by any means, but but he has a vision
Speaker 4: and he has given the members of his team really
Speaker 4: and and and again like because we are all a
Speaker 4: team and I'm talking from the announcers, camera operators, the talent,
Speaker 4: like like the people that have been with him and
Speaker 4: you know again like you know who you are, but
Speaker 4: like he's given us the opportunity to kind of showcase
Speaker 4: our craft and help make his company better. And again,
Speaker 4: like at the end of the day, we all have
Speaker 4: the same vision, right we all want you know, we
Speaker 4: want to Here's like and I can surmise everything I've
Speaker 4: said the NWA. We want to bring the magic back
Speaker 4: to pro wrestling. You know what I mean. And I
Speaker 4: don't need to say anything more on that, right because Chatham,
Speaker 4: assuming you're a fan friend, like you all know what
Speaker 4: I mean by that you want to bring the magic
Speaker 4: back to pro wrestling.
Speaker 3: That that is that's like a presidential slogan. That's like
Speaker 3: a really good slogan.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: Ye should put that on a T shirt.
Speaker 6: But what I like too about you know, the folks
Speaker 6: that you have surrounding you in the NWA, Like you said,
Speaker 6: the Vets.
Speaker 5: You've been around with.
Speaker 6: These guys for a long time, a lot of the
Speaker 6: folks that you work with, so you kind of have
Speaker 6: an idea of what you guys need to do as
Speaker 6: well together to make this product magical because you've all
Speaker 6: seen where it's gone wrong in the past and you've
Speaker 6: kind of all experienced it at different levels together. And
Speaker 6: that's what I think is cool about who's there at
Speaker 6: this current time and who's in big positions because you know,
Speaker 6: essentially there's been pitfalls for a lot of people and
Speaker 6: now it seems like it's all coming together and ascending upwards.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Like again, I'm just the talent, right, I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm only obligated to put on my little blue jacket
Speaker 4: and talk a bunch of smack to people. Right. But
Speaker 4: it's like because and I say, like Trevor Murdoch is
Speaker 4: the same thing. EC three. But we care, we really
Speaker 4: really care. Mike Knox is another guy who's been there.
Speaker 4: Amazing love Mike. You know Rodney Mack, who never ever
Speaker 4: got the credit he deserved for being as awesome as
Speaker 4: he is in the ring. And you know, again, anyone
Speaker 4: that has met Rodney and his work with him will
Speaker 4: tell you what an amazing human being he is. And
Speaker 4: that's the kind of like those are the kind of
Speaker 4: people we want, like when we go to work, like
Speaker 4: we're genuinely happy to see each other, and that's what
Speaker 4: you want, Like, Okay, what do we got today? Let's
Speaker 4: make this happen. And there's such a again like on
Speaker 4: all levels, like we don't. I mean, look, we have
Speaker 4: our own little section of the locker room that we
Speaker 4: change in, but everybody talks to everybody, like people will
Speaker 4: come over and chat with us, we go chat with them,
Speaker 4: like it's not like one of those If you talk
Speaker 4: to any of the talent that I know of, our
Speaker 4: locker room has a reputation for being like one of
Speaker 4: the most laid back places there is, and you know,
Speaker 4: again that's what we want. But we also we want
Speaker 4: and we do implement the standards that like the basic respect,
Speaker 4: you know, having consideration for other people, like cleaning up
Speaker 4: after yourself and the look there. I'm not going into it,
Speaker 4: but there have been people that have been asked to
Speaker 4: leave our locker room because like cause again we're the
Speaker 4: most laid back people in the world. Just show up,
Speaker 4: act like an adult, have fun. But if you're kind
Speaker 4: of rocking the boat to the point of like you're
Speaker 4: disturbing the harmony of it, again, you'll you'll be asked
Speaker 4: to leave. And it is a consensus with everybody. And
Speaker 4: it's not just the guys that have been doing it
Speaker 4: twenty years, it's the newer talent, it's everyone that we're
Speaker 4: just like minded individuals to where we welcome anybody. We
Speaker 4: don't care like we don't care who you are whatever,
Speaker 4: just to show up, act like a professional and work hard.
Speaker 4: I mean that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's funny because, like you know, I get
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Like in ECW, it wasn't work and
Speaker 2: I looked forward even if I had a six am flight,
Speaker 2: I was so excited to get on that plane because
Speaker 2: I loved being with those people, and I loved the product,
Speaker 2: and I loved working. When I signed with WWE, I
Speaker 2: would get sick to my stomach getting on the airplane.
Speaker 2: It was such a different experience for me because I
Speaker 2: just I didn't have a good run there.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a good experience there, but it was
Speaker 3: it was literally apples and oranges.
Speaker 2: So it really does help when you enjoy what you
Speaker 2: do and you have a good core of people around
Speaker 2: you to spend the time with, because.
Speaker 3: You know, you're on the road a lot, and these
Speaker 3: become your extend These people become your extended family. So
Speaker 3: if you don't enjoy them, you're gonna have a miserable experience.
Speaker 3: So what you said was the same you know with
Speaker 3: I hate keep saying ECW, but it was the same
Speaker 3: vibe in the locker room. So I'm so happy to.
Speaker 2: Hear that you guys are experiencing the same thing that
Speaker 2: we had, because I've never had a locker room like
Speaker 2: the ECW locker room. I've never been in something that
Speaker 2: I can honestly say felt like a family atmosphere to me.
Speaker 2: And to this day, I still talk to a bunch
Speaker 2: of the guys we still tour together thirty years later,
Speaker 2: like it's so ridiculous, Like it's crazy. Like if you
Speaker 2: were to ask me in my twenties, do you think
Speaker 2: you're gonna be friends with this guy thirty years from
Speaker 2: now or even working still, I'd say, what he out
Speaker 2: of your mind? Yeah, But no, we're still doing things
Speaker 2: that were blessed to do and that we love to do,
Speaker 2: and we're enjoying each other's company. And I love that
Speaker 2: you're going through the same experience because you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: I talk to guys and they're miserable and they're you know,
Speaker 2: the they're getting oppressed. They're not letting, you know, the creativeness,
Speaker 2: they're not letting it come out because so and so's
Speaker 2: you know, politicking against them and this and that. So
Speaker 2: when you hear something positive about a locker room, I
Speaker 2: love that I think that's great.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm really happy for you guys, and I
Speaker 2: think Billy is doing it the right way. And like
Speaker 2: you said, brick by brick, eventually you're going to come
Speaker 2: into bigger buildings and uh, you know, get that TV
Speaker 2: deal and it's going to explode and you deserve all
Speaker 2: of you deserve that. So that's what I hope happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean from from day one we said we're
Speaker 4: the little engine that could. And you know, again it's
Speaker 4: uh loyalty, like true loyalty, you see. And look it's
Speaker 4: a business you never know, right, like some people throw
Speaker 4: large sums of money at you. And I don't think
Speaker 4: anyone would hold anything against anybody for doing that, right.
Speaker 4: But again, like see, the difference in my opinion is
Speaker 4: Vince is a businessman. Ted Turner was a businessman. Tony
Speaker 4: Kahan is a businessman. Billy is a businessman, right, I
Speaker 4: mean we're not gonna look if you look at his
Speaker 4: commercial success, no one can deny that. But before he
Speaker 4: was a businessman, he was an artist.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: That is a difference. Where like with me, like I'm
Speaker 4: I would often argue, right, we made the joke like
Speaker 4: Chad and I would like, oh yeah, the painter artist wrestler.
Speaker 4: Like I I kind of like I'm more of a
Speaker 4: performance artist than I am a pro wrestler even when
Speaker 4: I was in the ring full time. Like, but but
Speaker 4: that's who I want to be. That that's just who
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever see yourself working again?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: You know what, Fran like, It's it's wrestling, right, like
Speaker 4: we all know how it ends. Like of course at
Speaker 4: some point I may have to put spandex on again,
Speaker 4: right like fine, like vetos are are faithfully in a
Speaker 4: plastic bag with dryer sheets, waiting for the next thing,
Speaker 4: like like do I want to know? I mean, it's
Speaker 4: not like I have this overwhelming because look, I mean
Speaker 4: my thing is I still get to go out there
Speaker 4: and I get to I get people to hate me,
Speaker 4: and now I get people like hate us. You know,
Speaker 4: whoever I'm working with.
Speaker 3: You're still you're still entertaining people.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so like that that's it. And again, if
Speaker 4: I ever have this overwhelming desire to go in the
Speaker 4: ring again, I mean I'm sure if I had the conference,
Speaker 4: hey boss, can I you know, I mean, look, I'm
Speaker 4: i I'm very confident that could happen to some degree.
Speaker 4: But hey, unless I'm doing anything worthwhile, I would rather
Speaker 4: continue to be a character on TV. So when I
Speaker 4: do have to fall down, you know, it means something
Speaker 4: and people want to see me get my my behind kicked.
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Sometimes we take fan questions I
Speaker 3: have I have a question for you.
Speaker 4: And we'll end it on this.
Speaker 2: I don't well, wait till you hear the question. Miss
Speaker 2: Ark one two three four wants to know. Uh, ask
Speaker 2: him about the time that he dressed up like Rod
Speaker 2: steel and can you explain the legend of the steel
Speaker 2: Man in Ohio Valley Wrestling.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, so there was a Halloween.
Speaker 3: Do you know who asked the question? Uh, that would
Speaker 3: be Nova. I made up the name we call each other,
Speaker 3: miss Ark, but this is Nova. Oneted me. I told
Speaker 3: him we're on today.
Speaker 4: Well, well thank you, Novah. But no, so here was
Speaker 4: this is actually funny. So there was a guy in
Speaker 4: ovw named Rod Steele. He was trained by Rip Rogers
Speaker 4: and Seymour Indiana. This is back in like I'm talking
Speaker 4: late eighties, early nineties. Things happened and steel Man went
Speaker 4: away for a little bit. And that's all I'm going
Speaker 4: to say, I got to OVW two thousand and three,
Speaker 4: and this is when Nova and I were attacked him
Speaker 4: and this guy came in and he was about legitimately
Speaker 4: six six, had a big, like I mean, just jet
Speaker 4: black go tee, was a little you know, like i'd say,
Speaker 4: late thirties early forties kind of thing, you know for
Speaker 4: and had a very timely shall we say it belonged
Speaker 4: to a certain time in a certain era. Look you
Speaker 4: know again late eighties, early nineties. So a long story short,
Speaker 4: Rip Rogers, who was our head trainer and who trained him,
Speaker 4: decided to try to kind of play a joke on
Speaker 4: him or uh, you know for those of you that
Speaker 4: aren't familiar with wrestling terms, rib him. So he said
Speaker 4: for a finish, you're gonna do ten body slams in
Speaker 4: a row. Well, I mean, look, I'll be damned if
Speaker 4: in three weeks he wasn't. When I say, the most
Speaker 4: overperson on the show, he was like his music would hit.
Speaker 4: It was Stranglehold by Ted NuGen. He'd come out. He
Speaker 4: had this like this gold sequence like cape with the
Speaker 4: sunglasses and the goatee and it was just like it
Speaker 4: was super over and one reason or another never ended
Speaker 4: up panning out. But this is look, I cannot make
Speaker 4: this stuff up. So I stopped by. I was with Nova.
Speaker 4: It was either last Thursday or the Thursday before, because
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I've been I just came in from the
Speaker 4: road the other day and I had my like sleep
Speaker 4: day where I catch up. So we're there Thursday and
Speaker 4: it's great because ov w's thriving. That's the one again
Speaker 4: I equate who I am in the ring today in
Speaker 4: my career to ov W two. I was prayed by
Speaker 4: Kowalski but like like Rip, Danny and Jimmy truly like
Speaker 4: taught me how to work, and that's a that's a
Speaker 4: big deal. But they're talking and you know steel Man
Speaker 4: is or Rod Steele is unfortunately no longer with us.
Speaker 4: But they said like, oh, yeah, his ghost is here,
Speaker 4: and I'm like yeah, ha ha ha, and they're like, no,
Speaker 4: they did a ghost hunt here and they picked up
Speaker 4: his EVP and like they said, they'd be talking and
Speaker 4: chairs fall down out of nowhere. It's like a weird thing.
Speaker 4: So the ghost of Rod Steel apparently haunts ov W
Speaker 4: to this day, or or not haunts, but is floating
Speaker 4: around the Davis Arena. Interesting that's just yeah, and then
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm like, I'm not surprised. So yeah,
Speaker 4: we did a.
Speaker 2: Show somewhere I want to see, Chicago and there was
Speaker 2: supposedly a ghost. I think it used to be a
Speaker 2: strip club and Madam was the ghost.
Speaker 4: Didn't Tommy see it? I remember Tommy Sandman.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the day said when they would walk by,
Speaker 2: she would like talk to them. So I never went
Speaker 2: up there because I was scared to death. But they
Speaker 2: always said they saw her, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: get out of here. So I don't know if you
Speaker 2: believe in that stuff. I guess it could be true.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Samon also said she was hitting on him,
Speaker 2: so that's why I don't really believe him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Before we wrap up, just I gotta go back to
Speaker 6: ov W. I've heard stories of the steal Man because
Speaker 6: I got a couple buddies who you were with in
Speaker 6: ov W. This this Netflix series that covered OVW and what's.
Speaker 5: Going on there recently.
Speaker 6: I've said this to them, I'd love to get your
Speaker 6: gauge on it. Can you imagine if there was a
Speaker 6: Netflix series about your class in time in ov W.
Speaker 5: Do you think it would even got greenlit.
Speaker 3: That's all he has to say.
Speaker 4: That's all I wanted to know, and I will say this,
Speaker 4: it certainly would have been for lack of content.
Speaker 5: That's what I figure.
Speaker 6: Eric.
Speaker 3: Where can people find you if they want to follow you?
Speaker 3: On socials?
Speaker 4: On Instagram, my handle is v Aaron Files. That's t
Speaker 4: h E A r O n not two a's but
Speaker 4: t h E A r O n F I L
Speaker 4: e s. On Twitter, it's aaronsots or x, it's Aarons thoughts.
Speaker 4: So so yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been a fan for years and
Speaker 2: I was so honored to meet you that night. And
Speaker 2: hopefully I mean, I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 2: do any signings, but if you do, you probably won't
Speaker 2: be at your table, but I'll try to catch you
Speaker 2: walking around the building and say thank you.
Speaker 4: And if you ever want to come to n w A,
Speaker 4: we would be honored to have you.
Speaker 2: I would love to come sometime if I'm ever in
Speaker 2: the area. I don't get out much, but if I'm there,
Speaker 2: I'll message you and maybe I can visit.
Speaker 4: That'd be great.
Speaker 2: Sounds wonderful. Well, good luck with everything. I'm rooting for
Speaker 2: you guys, and you know, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you for having me, thank you to.
Speaker 3: Take care take care of bye. What a nice men.
Speaker 5: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: No, I mean that all I needed was that one word,
Speaker 6: because it would never get greenlits.
Speaker 3: I'm when I tell you.
Speaker 2: He was constantly walking around that NOVA was like, look
Speaker 2: at this guy, what the hell is he doing? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't, I don't really know, and
Speaker 2: He's like, he has no he has no merch, he
Speaker 2: has no markers, he has not he had nothing.
Speaker 3: His table was completely bare. We all.
Speaker 5: So it's exactly what I would have thought had.
Speaker 6: He not said it, because he's been in that WWE
Speaker 6: system for so long he doesn't know any other way,
Speaker 6: because he really has had somebody there with them at
Speaker 6: every appearance, and they've always.
Speaker 5: Had this stuff at the table.
Speaker 4: So I get it.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 6: And now with n w A, they do the same thing.
Speaker 6: They set it all up for you.
Speaker 4: You're you.
Speaker 6: All you do is show up, you sit down by the.
Speaker 5: Boom, you're gone.
Speaker 6: And anytime, you know, post WWE, he gets booked by
Speaker 6: the promoters. You know, it's just sitting there when you
Speaker 6: get there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was funny. I found it so entertaining just
Speaker 3: watching him float around. He was with the fans, he
Speaker 3: was just walking amongst the fans. It's like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing? But he was so nice and so endearing.
Speaker 2: So I I really hope that things work out for
Speaker 2: them and for him, especially because he seems like a
Speaker 2: really really cool guy.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, doubt completely. I like with him.
Speaker 6: I got we got to use big words because he's
Speaker 6: so intelligent smart.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very he's very uh scholarly. Yeah. So that
Speaker 3: was a fun interview. So what do we have coming up?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 6: I gotta check out get my go on YouTube. Got
Speaker 6: a new episode coming to Christmas? Episode uh coming? And
Speaker 6: also I just appeared on the It's Husy Hello show.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, that's who we did. I was on back
Speaker 5: to back.
Speaker 6: Episodes I Hello, where we covered some I don't know
Speaker 6: if you caught the title of the episode.
Speaker 2: Now, well wait a minute, let me tell you. He
Speaker 2: so he demed me and asked me if it was okay? Okay,
Speaker 2: So he asked first, I said, sure, why not not
Speaker 2: anyone anything less?
Speaker 6: It is called fran Scene's clickbait Christmas. Yes, a lot
Speaker 6: of hot topics that we discussed on that show. But
Speaker 6: then I came back for the following episode where it
Speaker 6: is a top five Christmas songs where Hughesy and I
Speaker 6: battle it out and we actually have a judge who
Speaker 6: picks who wins each round.
Speaker 5: I won't spoil the victor.
Speaker 3: Carry make the list, no neither.
Speaker 6: But here's the thing though, outside of one round where
Speaker 6: we did potentially sync up, you'll learn something from each
Speaker 6: pick about each song, and that's what I like about it.
Speaker 5: So yeah, catch me on that.
Speaker 6: So you can download it on iTunes wherever, and it's
Speaker 6: on YouTube as well, but otherwise at chatty and be
Speaker 6: on Twitter, at ib exclusives on Instagram.
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