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Speaker 1: Yeah, hello, everyone, to be creaking and you.

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Speaker 2: Are listening to Eyes up here the iHeartRadio Network or

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Along for the ride is my co host Chad. Chad,

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Speaker 3: what is up? My brother?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Chilling like a villain?

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Speaker 4: Yo?

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Speaker 3: Yo?

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Speaker 4: Yo?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that's right?

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Speaker 4: Yo?

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Speaker 3: Feeling funky today? I was just jamming to her two.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 6: I know, I get caught up in it sometimes it's great.

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Speaker 6: It just it's grown on me, like like.

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Speaker 5: They say the plague.

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Speaker 3: He hated it, guys, I hate it.

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Speaker 5: I just wasn't in love with it.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it from day one and

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Speaker 3: I love it. Now. How's everything doing you good?

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Speaker 5: Great?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to start off pretty hot today. We

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Speaker 2: have a special guest that I'm excited to talk to

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Speaker 2: and he's going to be coming on in just a

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Speaker 2: few minutes. But until he comes on, trying to think

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Speaker 2: of what's happening. We got our bathroom floor done and

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Speaker 2: it looks spectacular. Now I'm looking for a painter, so

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Speaker 2: we're getting it painted, and we're getting new uh, I

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Speaker 2: have quarts now, we're getting new countertops and I think

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Speaker 2: we're getting a new new sinks, double sinks put in

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Speaker 2: and uh so what I'm trying to say is my

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Speaker 2: bathroom is a wreck right now because there's so much

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Speaker 2: work being done on it. But that's what's going on

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Speaker 2: in the Queen's cost. Uh, just the redoing one room

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Speaker 2: at a time, slowly but surely. I know, you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to catch up to your house. Your house is

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Speaker 2: just your house is like one of those houses in

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Speaker 2: Good Housekeeping. Oh my gosh, you open, you open, you

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Speaker 2: open the book and there's the house of the day.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's debute Clark, isn't you abute clerk?

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you saying that, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it ain't easy to keep up.

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Speaker 3: So no, I'm sure it's not. But that's what we've

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Speaker 3: been doing.

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Speaker 2: We've been trying to fix up around here, and slowly

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Speaker 2: but surely it's coming along.

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Speaker 3: The one day I tried to paint, I tried to

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Speaker 3: help out the guy.

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Speaker 2: We were painting the crown molding and we had to

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Speaker 2: remove it.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, I'll help you out. So

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Speaker 3: I did the first.

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Speaker 2: Coat and he comes up to me and he goes,

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Speaker 2: don't do the second one, and he's like, yeah, he goes,

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Speaker 2: You're not really doing it that good.

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Speaker 3: It took me forever to do the first coat, and

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Speaker 3: I took offense to that I had paint all over me.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, you know, try to help people.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't work out. So a painter I am not.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, he finished the job and it looks beautiful.

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Speaker 6: I like I could do it, you know, I like it.

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Speaker 6: We did a couple of there were some accent walls

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Speaker 6: in this house. Yeah, and we did them. But I

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Speaker 6: really gotta be focused because if I'm not, I gotta

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Speaker 6: walk away or it's gonna be real shitty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I said to myself.

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Speaker 2: At first I looked and I was like, oh, maybe

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Speaker 2: I can conquer the bathroom. And then I was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm gonna hire someone.

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Speaker 6: So now we're looking for Bathrooms are tough, Yeah, because

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Speaker 6: of those little little spots where you have vents and

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Speaker 6: the lighting. Bathrooms are super tough.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, but I want my cabinets painted, so

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Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't think I can.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I do that, it's gonna be shitty.

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Speaker 5: Bathrooms are shitty. That's the moral of the story.

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Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be like really bad, so I said, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try so looking for a painter right now.

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Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, tackling one room at

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Speaker 2: a time. We're changing my son's room to Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: We have all we have curtains, we have posters, we

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Speaker 2: have bedding, like everything is Star Wars now. He's really

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Speaker 2: excited because he's been getting into Star Wars. So we're

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Speaker 2: transitioning his room right now into that and just big

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on.

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Speaker 5: So weird, isn't it weird?

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Speaker 6: There's never been a Getmick where there's been a wrestling painter.

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Speaker 6: There hasn't, No, I don't think so. There's been like Beatnicks,

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Speaker 6: but never like a wrestler that's a painter.

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Speaker 3: Nick is a Is that a poet?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: Beat Nick's like a hippie, like a was.

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Speaker 3: The guy that led the what was his name, Adam?

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Speaker 3: Was he a hippie?

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Speaker 5: Adam Rose?

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Speaker 3: Adam Rose.

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Speaker 5: He's just like a party guy.

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Speaker 3: He was a party guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh the Exotic Express the Yeah, we should.

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Speaker 2: Go back and look at some of these gimmicks one day,

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Speaker 2: because I swore there was kind of like a painter.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure our guests would probably enlighten us whenever he

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Speaker 6: comes on, So he probably have a good.

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Speaker 5: Idea of it.

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Speaker 3: I need to ask him.

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Speaker 6: Imagine he's always like so wrapped up in his work

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Speaker 6: that like to go wrestle his match would like distract

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Speaker 6: him and that would be like the start of an angle.

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Speaker 6: Is that you knock over his painting set? Or is

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Speaker 6: a you know, was his easel?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can't remember. I thought there was. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Don't bother me while I'm worshiping on my work of art.

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Speaker 3: There should have been or a sculptor. Was there a sculptor?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, well, you know there's been a wrestlers sculpted.

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Speaker 5: You know who were you know? Made out of works

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Speaker 5: of art?

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Speaker 3: Most of them are what I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Well, listen he is he's been known as the Savior

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Speaker 6: of the Unwashed masses? Is that not the greatest like

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Speaker 6: surname ever for a professional wrestlers.

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Speaker 3: I think he's royalty in NWA, isn't he? He comes

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Speaker 3: down in these elaborate roots.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's got one of the greatest fashion senses

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Speaker 6: I think in the history of wrestling. Now, he's probably

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Speaker 6: one of the greatest overall personalities in wrestling history.

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Speaker 3: He seems like.

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Speaker 2: He's a very distinguished human being to me, Aaron High, Honey.

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Speaker 3: Can you hear us?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm awesome?

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Speaker 3: Thank you Aaron Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, we were supposed to give you this wonderful you know,

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Speaker 2: lead in and he shared the bed number one, So I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: We were we were just having get discussion. Was there

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Speaker 2: a wrestler who was a painter. Do you remember any

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Speaker 2: wrestlers who had a painting gimmick or a painter gimmick?

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Speaker 4: I mean like d X, I know, like painted people

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Speaker 4: of green, but like that, I like I was, I'm

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Speaker 4: assuming you're going in like the Bob Ross vein. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I cannot remember. I can't remember one. I know that,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to think now, h yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's certainly not at a level that was

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Speaker 4: like nationally known, right or internationally known.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that. Maybe think about that for your

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Speaker 3: next gimmick, because.

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Speaker 6: That painter sculptor something like.

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Speaker 3: That, that might be a winner. Aaron.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I will I would try to make

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Speaker 4: it work.

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Speaker 2: Work that down, I think that I would try to

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Speaker 2: make it work. I think you would excel at that.

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Speaker 2: How are you, by the way, thank you for coming

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Speaker 2: on today.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm great. How are you? How is everything doing

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Speaker 4: doing well?

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Speaker 2: I finally got to meet Aaron uh last year, never

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Speaker 2: met him.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny.

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Speaker 2: There are so many people in this business I've never met.

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Speaker 2: I think it's because I don't get out too.

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Speaker 4: Much, exactly like I just did that for Nova.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so at Nova's retirement, which I think he'll come back,

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Speaker 2: I don't really think we're never going to see him again.

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Speaker 2: But Aaron was there, and I was so excited to

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Speaker 2: meet you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was so glad that that we got

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Speaker 3: to talk a little bit and hang out.

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Speaker 2: Did you want that show that night because I kind

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Speaker 2: of powdered after the convention.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: The reason I was there is because you know, Nova said, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm retiring, and he wanted to do a six man

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Speaker 4: because Frankie Kazarian was his partner on the indies for

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Speaker 4: a long time, like in between E c W and WWE,

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Speaker 4: and then he and I were tag partners in OVW

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Speaker 4: on Cornett and everything. So like we we became close.

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Speaker 4: I'm godfather to his daughter.

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Speaker 3: I know you are.

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Speaker 4: I love him. So it's just like he wanted me

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Speaker 4: there and I was like, hey man, yeah, absolutely, like

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Speaker 4: this is your retirement, will do it. And it was

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Speaker 4: just a fun show. But it was funny because Miss

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Speaker 4: Francine got to find out what a horrible independent wrestler

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Speaker 4: I would make.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I just like we did a signing, I was just

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Speaker 4: like not talking to me. I was I just don't

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Speaker 4: have the like, yeah, I don't have the patience for

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Speaker 4: a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: And so here's my take on this. You were adorable.

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Speaker 3: I have to say it.

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Speaker 2: I sat at a table between Kevin Kelly and Nova. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so Aaron was like Caddy Corner at his table, but

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Speaker 2: he was never there. And I'm saying to myself, where

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Speaker 2: is he? Like why isn't he sign? And Novah goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: this kid can't sit still. He's all over the place.

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Speaker 2: You'll never see him sitting still. And every time, like

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Speaker 2: I would sign an autograph and I would look up,

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Speaker 2: he'd be walking that way, or then he'd be walking

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Speaker 2: that way, or he'd come over at us and say

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Speaker 3: I was like, why are you not sitting at your table?

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Speaker 3: And you were just like I can't do this. And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is part of the profession. Do you

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Speaker 3: not like it? Or is it just are you irritable?

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Speaker 3: Are you nervous to me?

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Speaker 4: No, because like, like so the thing is like okay.

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Speaker 4: For when when I was in WWE, which again, and

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Speaker 4: I I will admit this wholeheartedly, for the vast majority

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Speaker 4: of my career, I've kind of been spoiled in the

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Speaker 4: sense of like, look, I've yes, I put in the

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Speaker 4: work to make it, but then I always had someone

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Speaker 4: telling me where to be. I've had a handler to

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Speaker 4: make sure that I I don't have to worry about

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Speaker 4: like exchanging money and like all that stuff like bringing

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Speaker 4: your own eight by tens. I didn't bring eight by

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Speaker 3: Well, you learned, you know now if you need to

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Speaker 4: It was great.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about how you get into business,

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Speaker 3: Anybody can write on Wiki.

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Speaker 4: I can't stand Wikipedia because there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: I wrote them a very kind letter and they're like,

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Speaker 3: A minute, you need a fact checker for you.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, like like someone like some weirdo

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like that was years ago, and I

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Speaker 4: You need to come. No, I don't, I'm retired. I'm

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Speaker 4: I think that's because of a number of reasons, not

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Speaker 4: So his work rate was much higher to their standards

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Speaker 4: and that's because it was presented the right way. So

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Speaker 4: what we're trying to do at NWA is present the

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Speaker 4: You know, we're selling emotion, or at least we're trying to.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to do You don't have to answer this

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Speaker 2: think that cocaine spot from the pay per view impacted

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Speaker 4: Well, no, here's job. I mean, I'll answer anything. Right,

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Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, I don't want.

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Speaker 2: To get your heated, billy, because you know that's the

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Speaker 3: So if you don't want to answer, you don't have to.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think look like with anything with

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Speaker 4: let's let's take this into the real world. Right, Look,

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Speaker 4: decisions are made, right, good, bad, and different. Hey, decisions

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Speaker 4: are made. Now do I think it negatively impacted the company? No?

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Speaker 4: If you want my honest opinion and the long term,

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Speaker 4: we just came off one of the best shows we've

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Speaker 4: the pictures of it, but we have a packed house, right,

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Speaker 4: we have, you know, again, a roster that is growing

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Speaker 4: like what I just said about presenting yourselves a certain

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Speaker 4: every bump in the road, no pun intended, although that's

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Speaker 3: Momentum.

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Speaker 4: No, you know what. And I'll put this in a

442
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 4: simple as simple terms as I can. We are gaining.

443
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: It is a grassroots thing, show by show and I

444
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: actually posted this like or a kind of an abbreviated version.

445
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: Every time we do a show somewhere for the first time,

446
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: people come up and not just one or two like wow,

447
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 4: I never I've never been to a show like this.

448
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 4: This was awesome. This is something for everybody, and it

449
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 4: just goes on and on and on. And there is

450
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: a vibe at an NWA show and again like you

451
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: know Pat Kaney, Simon Diamond, Yeah, you know, Pat is

452
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: talent relations guy there and and he kind of said, like, look,

453
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: there is an EACW vibe in the sense of like

454
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 4: we are the alternative today, Like we're not EASW, We're

455
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: the NWA, but if you look at the product today,

456
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: we are the alternative in fact, like we're the ones

457
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: who you know from Billy, and it's it's comes from

458
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 4: the top as a leader. And I'll speak to this

459
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 4: the kind of leader that Billy Corgan is. You know,

460
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: he has the courage to say, this is the way

461
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: the product should be presented, let's do it, and he

462
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: takes those risks and you know the decisions that he

463
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: makes in terms of giving talent freedom, and it's it's incredible,

464
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 4: like I've never worked for a boss or I've never

465
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: worked in a place where I have had more creative freedom.

466
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 4: And you know the flip side of that is, I've

467
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 4: never worked for a place where I've had more loyalty,

468
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: truly loyalty. A lot of companies they're like, oh, yeah,

469
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: you know, we're our family, and especially that I've worked

470
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: for before, Oh, welcome to our family. No, No, it's

471
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 4: it's jargon. It is corporate jargon like everything else. And and

472
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: that's just it's not a knock, right, it's just it's

473
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: it is what it is. At NWA, we don't say

474
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: we're family because we are. We literally like and I'm

475
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: not this I won't get into because this is behind

476
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: the scenes stuff and it's nothing bad. It's just I

477
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: believe that, you know, when you go into a locker room,

478
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: it's still sacred. And what goes on behind the scenes,

479
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: sure keep that amongst ourselves. So I'll talk about stuff,

480
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: but you'll never see me like throwing people under the

481
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: bus or talking about people unless it's Santino of course

482
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: that I you know, without their permission. So like we

483
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: are truly dependent on each other to make a show

484
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 4: go on. I mean the wedding episode I did when

485
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: I married, like it was back in January or February,

486
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 4: where with my yes with May who I love her,

487
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 4: she's wonderful. Like there was travel issues. Both Billy and

488
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: Pat couldn't make it because there was like twelve hundred

489
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: feet of snow on the ground. Wow, we had to,

490
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 4: Like I mean, you talk about people banning together and

491
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: and really kind of like making something happen. And that's

492
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: it's like that every show. But it's a pleasure to

493
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: work with Billy and like when when people you know,

494
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: for every fan we gain or I should say for

495
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: every hundred fans we gain, right, And it is like

496
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: this is a grassroots it's a brick by brick kind

497
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: of thing that we're doing for every hundred people that

498
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: love us. There's one person with a Twitter account that

499
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: will try to sling shade and post and there was,

500
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: you know, an issue of the internet said one thing

501
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: and like oh, NWA's it's this, it's that, And you

502
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: know where I had a friend of mine call me

503
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 4: and tell me this, and I'm like, hey, dude, you

504
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: know I work there, right like if if I have

505
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: an issue, like I can call my boss or my

506
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: boss is right like I'm I'm fine, Like stop, and

507
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 4: we all kind of went into the show in Sarasota

508
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: of like all right, like you want to talk about us,

509
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 4: You want to kind of like if you need, like

510
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: if if somebody feels a need, you know, if they're

511
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: a wrestling fan and they need to like sling shade

512
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: or put their their hate speech and and someone as

513
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: like this just whipping mule, they will pick us. And

514
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: you know what our attitude is, we don't care because

515
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 4: our product speaks for itself and you can do whatever

516
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: you want. But you know what, we know who we

517
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: are as a company. We know who we are, we

518
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: know where we're going. And you know what, if you

519
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: don't like it, don't watch because there's a lot of

520
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: other people when you see us live and you go

521
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: to a show and you experience the atmosphere there because

522
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 4: the thing is as interdependent and I don't want to

523
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 4: in term close because it's not like everyone hangs out

524
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: after the show, even though we all kind of do like,

525
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 4: but the interdependentness in terms of our livelihoods depend on

526
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: each other. Uh, it is very, very kind of tangible

527
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: and and it translates to our product. And that's you know,

528
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: we've often joked and said we're the Island of misfit toys,

529
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: which yeah, you know something about that. Yeah, which again

530
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 4: another ECW reference. But we are if you look at us, right,

531
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: we're like you know, the ones that people oh they

532
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 4: don't didn't standing in or were a little too individualistic.

533
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: I will not use the term eccentric or crazy in

534
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: my case, but uh, whoever, for whatever reason. Right, But

535
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: it's a place where we want to make something, and

536
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: it's a place where you know, again we can carry

537
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: the banner of the tradition, but we can carry it

538
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: into the future where we want to go.

539
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: And that that is a great answer Number one and

540
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: number two, I.

541
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Think I gave the same speech in nineteen.

542
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: Ninety six because everything that you just said, I could

543
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: say about ECW back in the day, we were that

544
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: alternative brand that we were the island of misfit toys.

545
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: We were the guys that you know, a lot of

546
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: us were homegrown, but a lot of us didn't get

547
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: a chance to, you know, shine in other companies. And

548
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: Paul saw something in us and Billy sees something in

549
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: you guys. So it's it's the same story decades later,

550
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: and I see a lot of us in your locker room.

551
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: Because the way you say we're fighting for each other

552
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: and we're fighting for the company.

553
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: We felt the same way.

554
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, if I make you shine and you make

555
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: me shine, it's good for us as a team, it's

556
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: good for the company.

557
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: So that's a great work ethic to have.

558
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: As far as like the houses go, we've been talking about,

559
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: like we had Bubba on the show Billy Ray right,

560
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: So we were just asking him how impact is growing

561
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: and how they're taking that slow climb and they're starting

562
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: to maybe venture off and do bigger shows after you know,

563
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: twenty something years being around. You see aew and you

564
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: see a lot and I'm not trying to knock them,

565
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: but my point was. You see a lot of empty

566
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: seats in the buildings when they run. And like, my

567
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: philosophy is, why isn't Tony Kahan buying smaller venues, making

568
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: it more intimate, you know, better looking on TV? Because

569
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, fans today with social media is killing this business.

570
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: In my opinion, these fans are just they'll take video

571
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: and take pictures and oh, look it's so empty here

572
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah. You know, it's kind of

573
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: like I just in a way, I'm glad we didn't

574
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: have social media back when when I was working, because

575
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: it can really destroy you mentally and physically as a person,

576
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so for these people

577
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: to be showing the venues half empty and blah blah blah.

578
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: And now you're telling us you guys are taking it

579
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: slow and building it brick by brick. I feel that

580
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: that's the right way to do it, you know what

581
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like Tony Khan has all this money

582
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: and he's dumping it into these fifteen thousand seed arenas,

583
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: and if you're only drawing five to six thousand people,

584
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: why why get that?

585
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: Why waste the money?

586
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again like I would like to your point, Yes,

587
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: I agree with everything you say, Francine. It's I don't

588
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: know what kind of a businessman Tony is like Otherwise

589
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: I've never met the man. Obviously, you know he loves

590
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: the business, which is the not only the cornerstone with

591
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 4: the foundation really of being successful at this you have

592
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: to to some degree love it to the point of

593
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: being able to understand it on the level that you

594
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: need to make money, right, And that's that's kind of

595
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: I know it's a little deep, but you know what

596
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying on that now, if it is doing it

597
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: to create like the illusion of in hopes to say,

598
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: oh yeah, we want more people coming because we're at

599
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: this arena and AW is on par with any other

600
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: company in the world, then hey, if you got the

601
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: money and you're doing it great. Now. If I was

602
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: Tony Kahan, and again I'm not obviously like I would

603
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: focus on creating your stars. There is no need wardlow

604
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: who was hot?

605
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: Right?

606
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: And I don't really watch wrestling, but again, social media,

607
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: what's going on? Why would you cool somebody off like that?

608
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: You know that you need to build stars, and you

609
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: need to focus on stars. There's a lot of rosters

610
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: that are way too big, and if you trim your

611
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: roster down, focus on growing the talent that you have

612
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: and not just throwing things out there. Look like there

613
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: are no three lets WWE is it is an exception

614
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: because again Vince's turned it into a juggernaut, right, but

615
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: no three letters? Like will people say like, oh hey

616
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: that they're in town, let's go buy a ticket?

617
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: Right? Like?

618
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: Because AEW just needs I think more more, just years,

619
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: right for AEW to be a viable company with WB,

620
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: time is the only thing that will make it happen.

621
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: And again with Tony sticking around maybe playing the long game,

622
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: and if that's what he's doing, that's great, that's amazing.

623
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: So again I'm not gonna knock anyone's business strategy. But again,

624
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 4: if I was in charge of creative, they're like, okay,

625
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: like we got some really talented people. Let us put

626
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: the time and effort to building them so the fans

627
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: have equity in them, right, build stars. Stars aren't going

628
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: out doing a match and coming back. No, No, you

629
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: need to plan things. You need to have months in

630
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: advance where you would like to go. How would you

631
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: like the people to perceive this person or not and look,

632
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: these are just things that I mean, hey, I'm just

633
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: a former wrestler kind of just spitballing here, but like

634
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: these are things that you need to kind of think

635
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: about if you want to grow long term. And you

636
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: said something about us believing or Billy believing in us,

637
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: right as talent, there's there's been enough time that has

638
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: gone by in this era of NWA where like there's

639
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 4: been very good talent that's come and gone and for

640
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: whatever reason, they don't go there. But like the really

641
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: kind of like the veteran guys that are there now.

642
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: Not only does Billy believe in us, we believe in him.

643
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 4: And that's that's what makes the NWA different. Like that

644
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 4: is what Like Billy doesn't have, you know, a billion

645
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: dollar reserve like WWE and like aw again, he's not

646
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: poor by any means, but but he has a vision

647
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: and he has given the members of his team really

648
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: and and and again like because we are all a

649
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: team and I'm talking from the announcers, camera operators, the talent,

650
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: like like the people that have been with him and

651
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: you know again like you know who you are, but

652
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: like he's given us the opportunity to kind of showcase

653
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: our craft and help make his company better. And again,

654
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: like at the end of the day, we all have

655
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: the same vision, right we all want you know, we

656
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 4: want to Here's like and I can surmise everything I've

657
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 4: said the NWA. We want to bring the magic back

658
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: to pro wrestling. You know what I mean. And I

659
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: don't need to say anything more on that, right because Chatham,

660
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: assuming you're a fan friend, like you all know what

661
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: I mean by that you want to bring the magic

662
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: back to pro wrestling.

663
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: That that is that's like a presidential slogan. That's like

664
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: a really good slogan.

665
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: I like that.

666
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: Ye should put that on a T shirt.

667
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: But what I like too about you know, the folks

668
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 6: that you have surrounding you in the NWA, Like you said,

669
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 6: the Vets.

670
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 5: You've been around with.

671
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 6: These guys for a long time, a lot of the

672
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 6: folks that you work with, so you kind of have

673
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 6: an idea of what you guys need to do as

674
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 6: well together to make this product magical because you've all

675
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 6: seen where it's gone wrong in the past and you've

676
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 6: kind of all experienced it at different levels together. And

677
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 6: that's what I think is cool about who's there at

678
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 6: this current time and who's in big positions because you know,

679
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 6: essentially there's been pitfalls for a lot of people and

680
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 6: now it seems like it's all coming together and ascending upwards.

681
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. Like again, I'm just the talent, right, I don't.

682
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: I'm only obligated to put on my little blue jacket

683
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: and talk a bunch of smack to people. Right. But

684
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: it's like because and I say, like Trevor Murdoch is

685
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: the same thing. EC three. But we care, we really

686
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: really care. Mike Knox is another guy who's been there.

687
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: Amazing love Mike. You know Rodney Mack, who never ever

688
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 4: got the credit he deserved for being as awesome as

689
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: he is in the ring. And you know, again, anyone

690
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: that has met Rodney and his work with him will

691
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: tell you what an amazing human being he is. And

692
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: that's the kind of like those are the kind of

693
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 4: people we want, like when we go to work, like

694
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: we're genuinely happy to see each other, and that's what

695
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: you want, Like, Okay, what do we got today? Let's

696
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: make this happen. And there's such a again like on

697
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: all levels, like we don't. I mean, look, we have

698
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 4: our own little section of the locker room that we

699
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: change in, but everybody talks to everybody, like people will

700
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: come over and chat with us, we go chat with them,

701
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 4: like it's not like one of those If you talk

702
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: to any of the talent that I know of, our

703
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: locker room has a reputation for being like one of

704
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: the most laid back places there is, and you know,

705
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: again that's what we want. But we also we want

706
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: and we do implement the standards that like the basic respect,

707
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: you know, having consideration for other people, like cleaning up

708
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: after yourself and the look there. I'm not going into it,

709
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: but there have been people that have been asked to

710
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: leave our locker room because like cause again we're the

711
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: most laid back people in the world. Just show up,

712
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: act like an adult, have fun. But if you're kind

713
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: of rocking the boat to the point of like you're

714
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: disturbing the harmony of it, again, you'll you'll be asked

715
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: to leave. And it is a consensus with everybody. And

716
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: it's not just the guys that have been doing it

717
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: twenty years, it's the newer talent, it's everyone that we're

718
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: just like minded individuals to where we welcome anybody. We

719
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: don't care like we don't care who you are whatever,

720
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: just to show up, act like a professional and work hard.

721
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: I mean that's it.

722
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's funny because, like you know, I get

723
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Like in ECW, it wasn't work and

724
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: I looked forward even if I had a six am flight,

725
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: I was so excited to get on that plane because

726
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: I loved being with those people, and I loved the product,

727
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: and I loved working. When I signed with WWE, I

728
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: would get sick to my stomach getting on the airplane.

729
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: It was such a different experience for me because I

730
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: just I didn't have a good run there.

731
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: I didn't have a good experience there, but it was

732
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: it was literally apples and oranges.

733
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: So it really does help when you enjoy what you

734
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: do and you have a good core of people around

735
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: you to spend the time with, because.

736
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: You know, you're on the road a lot, and these

737
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: become your extend These people become your extended family. So

738
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: if you don't enjoy them, you're gonna have a miserable experience.

739
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: So what you said was the same you know with

740
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: I hate keep saying ECW, but it was the same

741
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: vibe in the locker room. So I'm so happy to.

742
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Hear that you guys are experiencing the same thing that

743
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: we had, because I've never had a locker room like

744
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: the ECW locker room. I've never been in something that

745
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: I can honestly say felt like a family atmosphere to me.

746
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: And to this day, I still talk to a bunch

747
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: of the guys we still tour together thirty years later,

748
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: like it's so ridiculous, Like it's crazy. Like if you

749
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: were to ask me in my twenties, do you think

750
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna be friends with this guy thirty years from

751
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: now or even working still, I'd say, what he out

752
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: of your mind? Yeah, But no, we're still doing things

753
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: that were blessed to do and that we love to do,

754
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: and we're enjoying each other's company. And I love that

755
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: you're going through the same experience because you know, sometimes

756
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: I talk to guys and they're miserable and they're you know,

757
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: the they're getting oppressed. They're not letting, you know, the creativeness,

758
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: they're not letting it come out because so and so's

759
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: you know, politicking against them and this and that. So

760
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: when you hear something positive about a locker room, I

761
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: love that I think that's great.

762
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: Thank you.

763
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm really happy for you guys, and I

764
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: think Billy is doing it the right way. And like

765
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: you said, brick by brick, eventually you're going to come

766
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: into bigger buildings and uh, you know, get that TV

767
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: deal and it's going to explode and you deserve all

768
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: of you deserve that. So that's what I hope happens.

769
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean from from day one we said we're

770
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: the little engine that could. And you know, again it's

771
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: uh loyalty, like true loyalty, you see. And look it's

772
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: a business you never know, right, like some people throw

773
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: large sums of money at you. And I don't think

774
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: anyone would hold anything against anybody for doing that, right.

775
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: But again, like see, the difference in my opinion is

776
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: Vince is a businessman. Ted Turner was a businessman. Tony

777
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: Kahan is a businessman. Billy is a businessman, right, I

778
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: mean we're not gonna look if you look at his

779
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 4: commercial success, no one can deny that. But before he

780
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 4: was a businessman, he was an artist.

781
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: Right.

782
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: That is a difference. Where like with me, like I'm

783
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: I would often argue, right, we made the joke like

784
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: Chad and I would like, oh yeah, the painter artist wrestler.

785
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: Like I I kind of like I'm more of a

786
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: performance artist than I am a pro wrestler even when

787
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: I was in the ring full time. Like, but but

788
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: that's who I want to be. That that's just who

789
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: I am.

790
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever see yourself working again?

791
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

792
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: You know what, Fran like, It's it's wrestling, right, like

793
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: we all know how it ends. Like of course at

794
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: some point I may have to put spandex on again,

795
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: right like fine, like vetos are are faithfully in a

796
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: plastic bag with dryer sheets, waiting for the next thing,

797
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: like like do I want to know? I mean, it's

798
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: not like I have this overwhelming because look, I mean

799
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: my thing is I still get to go out there

800
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: and I get to I get people to hate me,

801
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 4: and now I get people like hate us. You know,

802
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: whoever I'm working with.

803
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: You're still you're still entertaining people.

804
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, so like that that's it. And again, if

805
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: I ever have this overwhelming desire to go in the

806
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 4: ring again, I mean I'm sure if I had the conference,

807
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: hey boss, can I you know, I mean, look, I'm

808
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 4: i I'm very confident that could happen to some degree.

809
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: But hey, unless I'm doing anything worthwhile, I would rather

810
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: continue to be a character on TV. So when I

811
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: do have to fall down, you know, it means something

812
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: and people want to see me get my my behind kicked.

813
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Sometimes we take fan questions I

814
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: have I have a question for you.

815
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: And we'll end it on this.

816
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't well, wait till you hear the question. Miss

817
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: Ark one two three four wants to know. Uh, ask

818
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 2: him about the time that he dressed up like Rod

819
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: steel and can you explain the legend of the steel

820
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Man in Ohio Valley Wrestling.

821
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, so there was a Halloween.

822
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: Do you know who asked the question? Uh, that would

823
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: be Nova. I made up the name we call each other,

824
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: miss Ark, but this is Nova. Oneted me. I told

825
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: him we're on today.

826
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: Well, well thank you, Novah. But no, so here was

827
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: this is actually funny. So there was a guy in

828
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: ovw named Rod Steele. He was trained by Rip Rogers

829
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 4: and Seymour Indiana. This is back in like I'm talking

830
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: late eighties, early nineties. Things happened and steel Man went

831
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: away for a little bit. And that's all I'm going

832
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: to say, I got to OVW two thousand and three,

833
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: and this is when Nova and I were attacked him

834
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 4: and this guy came in and he was about legitimately

835
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: six six, had a big, like I mean, just jet

836
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 4: black go tee, was a little you know, like i'd say,

837
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: late thirties early forties kind of thing, you know for

838
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: and had a very timely shall we say it belonged

839
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: to a certain time in a certain era. Look you

840
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: know again late eighties, early nineties. So a long story short,

841
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: Rip Rogers, who was our head trainer and who trained him,

842
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: decided to try to kind of play a joke on

843
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: him or uh, you know for those of you that

844
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 4: aren't familiar with wrestling terms, rib him. So he said

845
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 4: for a finish, you're gonna do ten body slams in

846
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: a row. Well, I mean, look, I'll be damned if

847
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: in three weeks he wasn't. When I say, the most

848
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: overperson on the show, he was like his music would hit.

849
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: It was Stranglehold by Ted NuGen. He'd come out. He

850
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: had this like this gold sequence like cape with the

851
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 4: sunglasses and the goatee and it was just like it

852
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: was super over and one reason or another never ended

853
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: up panning out. But this is look, I cannot make

854
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 4: this stuff up. So I stopped by. I was with Nova.

855
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: It was either last Thursday or the Thursday before, because

856
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I've been I just came in from the

857
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: road the other day and I had my like sleep

858
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: day where I catch up. So we're there Thursday and

859
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: it's great because ov w's thriving. That's the one again

860
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: I equate who I am in the ring today in

861
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: my career to ov W two. I was prayed by

862
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: Kowalski but like like Rip, Danny and Jimmy truly like

863
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: taught me how to work, and that's a that's a

864
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: big deal. But they're talking and you know steel Man

865
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: is or Rod Steele is unfortunately no longer with us.

866
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: But they said like, oh, yeah, his ghost is here,

867
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 4: and I'm like yeah, ha ha ha, and they're like, no,

868
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: they did a ghost hunt here and they picked up

869
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: his EVP and like they said, they'd be talking and

870
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: chairs fall down out of nowhere. It's like a weird thing.

871
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: So the ghost of Rod Steel apparently haunts ov W

872
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 4: to this day, or or not haunts, but is floating

873
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: around the Davis Arena. Interesting that's just yeah, and then

874
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm like, I'm not surprised. So yeah,

875
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: we did a.

876
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Show somewhere I want to see, Chicago and there was

877
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: supposedly a ghost. I think it used to be a

878
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: strip club and Madam was the ghost.

879
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: Didn't Tommy see it? I remember Tommy Sandman.

880
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So the day said when they would walk by,

881
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: she would like talk to them. So I never went

882
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: up there because I was scared to death. But they

883
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: always said they saw her, and I was just like,

884
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: get out of here. So I don't know if you

885
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: believe in that stuff. I guess it could be true.

886
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, Samon also said she was hitting on him,

887
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: so that's why I don't really believe him.

888
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

889
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 6: Before we wrap up, just I gotta go back to

890
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: ov W. I've heard stories of the steal Man because

891
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 6: I got a couple buddies who you were with in

892
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 6: ov W. This this Netflix series that covered OVW and what's.

893
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: Going on there recently.

894
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 6: I've said this to them, I'd love to get your

895
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 6: gauge on it. Can you imagine if there was a

896
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 6: Netflix series about your class in time in ov W.

897
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: Do you think it would even got greenlit.

898
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: That's all he has to say.

899
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: That's all I wanted to know, and I will say this,

900
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: it certainly would have been for lack of content.

901
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 5: That's what I figure.

902
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 6: Eric.

903
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: Where can people find you if they want to follow you?

904
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: On socials?

905
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: On Instagram, my handle is v Aaron Files. That's t

906
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 4: h E A r O n not two a's but

907
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: t h E A r O n F I L

908
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: e s. On Twitter, it's aaronsots or x, it's Aarons thoughts.

909
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: So so yeah, that's it.

910
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming on.

911
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been a fan for years and

912
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: I was so honored to meet you that night. And

913
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: hopefully I mean, I don't know if you're going to

914
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: do any signings, but if you do, you probably won't

915
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: be at your table, but I'll try to catch you

916
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: walking around the building and say thank you.

917
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: And if you ever want to come to n w A,

918
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: we would be honored to have you.

919
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: I would love to come sometime if I'm ever in

920
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: the area. I don't get out much, but if I'm there,

921
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: I'll message you and maybe I can visit.

922
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: That'd be great.

923
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: Sounds wonderful. Well, good luck with everything. I'm rooting for

924
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: you guys, and you know, thank you for coming on.

925
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you for having me, thank you to.

926
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: Take care take care of bye. What a nice men.

927
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

928
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 6: No, I mean that all I needed was that one word,

929
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 6: because it would never get greenlits.

930
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: I'm when I tell you.

931
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: He was constantly walking around that NOVA was like, look

932
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: at this guy, what the hell is he doing? And

933
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't, I don't really know, and

934
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: He's like, he has no he has no merch, he

935
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: has no markers, he has not he had nothing.

936
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: His table was completely bare. We all.

937
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: So it's exactly what I would have thought had.

938
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 6: He not said it, because he's been in that WWE

939
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 6: system for so long he doesn't know any other way,

940
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 6: because he really has had somebody there with them at

941
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 6: every appearance, and they've always.

942
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 5: Had this stuff at the table.

943
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: So I get it.

944
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: I get it.

945
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 6: And now with n w A, they do the same thing.

946
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 6: They set it all up for you.

947
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: You're you.

948
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 6: All you do is show up, you sit down by the.

949
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 5: Boom, you're gone.

950
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 6: And anytime, you know, post WWE, he gets booked by

951
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 6: the promoters. You know, it's just sitting there when you

952
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 6: get there.

953
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was funny. I found it so entertaining just

954
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: watching him float around. He was with the fans, he

955
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: was just walking amongst the fans. It's like, what are

956
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: you doing? But he was so nice and so endearing.

957
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: So I I really hope that things work out for

958
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: them and for him, especially because he seems like a

959
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: really really cool guy.

960
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: Oh, no, doubt completely. I like with him.

961
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 6: I got we got to use big words because he's

962
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 6: so intelligent smart.

963
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very he's very uh scholarly. Yeah. So that

964
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: was a fun interview. So what do we have coming up?

965
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: Now?

966
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 6: I gotta check out get my go on YouTube. Got

967
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 6: a new episode coming to Christmas? Episode uh coming? And

968
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 6: also I just appeared on the It's Husy Hello show.

969
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 5: Oh yes, that's who we did. I was on back

970
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 5: to back.

971
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 6: Episodes I Hello, where we covered some I don't know

972
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 6: if you caught the title of the episode.

973
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 2: Now, well wait a minute, let me tell you. He

974
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: so he demed me and asked me if it was okay? Okay,

975
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: So he asked first, I said, sure, why not not

976
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: anyone anything less?

977
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 6: It is called fran Scene's clickbait Christmas. Yes, a lot

978
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 6: of hot topics that we discussed on that show. But

979
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: then I came back for the following episode where it

980
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 6: is a top five Christmas songs where Hughesy and I

981
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 6: battle it out and we actually have a judge who

982
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: picks who wins each round.

983
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 5: I won't spoil the victor.

984
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: Carry make the list, no neither.

985
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 6: But here's the thing though, outside of one round where

986
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 6: we did potentially sync up, you'll learn something from each

987
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 6: pick about each song, and that's what I like about it.

988
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 5: So yeah, catch me on that.

989
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 6: So you can download it on iTunes wherever, and it's

990
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 6: on YouTube as well, but otherwise at chatty and be

991
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 6: on Twitter, at ib exclusives on Instagram.

992
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,000
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993
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994
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,680
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995
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,239
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996
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997
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998
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999
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1000
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1001
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,320
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1002
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: Diva Francine and remember to make someone smile today.

1003
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