1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Second hour, another hour of the Jesse Kelly 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Show on a wonderful Tuesday, and do not forget. You 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: can email us Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. We are 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: about to finish finally the Rhodesian Bush War tonight. I 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: have no earthly idea how long it's going to take me. 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: It might not even take me an hour. It probably won't, 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: but who knows. And then once we're done with that, 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: that'll wrap that up, and then we'll move back on 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: to politics. Remember if you missed any of the previous 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: four parts, they're all available on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Go 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: download the podcast and give all the background and stuff 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: like that. And always keep something else in mind whenever 14 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: we do history on this show. If there is a 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: topic that intrigues you, I just want to stress this. 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: There is a topic that intrigues you, I want to 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: encourage you that I can't possibly present all the interesting, 18 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: cool parts of it to you. Meaning, if I like 19 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian Bushwart's about to be five hours basically of content. 20 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: If you're fascinated by it. It can be common to 21 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: think this and I know because I used to do this. 22 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: It can be common to think, Okay, well I got it. 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Jesse already told me about it. No, you're getting the 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: parts of it that are uniquely intriguing to me. And 25 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: of course you have an overview now, a basic understanding 26 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: of it. But I only have a basic understanding of it. 27 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: If they're are parts of it that intrigue you, any 28 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: parts of it, go read or listen to podcasts or 29 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: even audio books, like Jewish producer Chris does. If there's 30 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: a subject that fascinates you that maybe we've introduced you 31 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: to on this show, dig into it more yourself. There's 32 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: so much more out there. I had to learn this myself. 33 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I'd read one book on something and think, Okay, I 34 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: got it. That's it. No, no, no, no, no, go 35 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: read ten books on it. There's all kinds of different 36 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: perspectives and angles and details and more things that will 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: come to you if you're fascinated by it. Dig into it, 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: all right. So we got this email Jesse, I'm really 39 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: enjoying the history of the Rhodesian bush War. We got 40 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of these. I'm glad you enjoying it. At 41 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of the century. I completed MSG training and 42 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: was headed to my first post. By the way, MSG 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: is Marine's security guard. Those are the guys who guard 44 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: our embassies. The United States Marines guard the embassies anyway, 45 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: and headed my first post Zimbabwe. I had no idea 46 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: where it was. To complicate matters, the schoolhouse map was 47 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy nine, and I had no idea that 48 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: it had been Rhodesia. The country was amazing, but I 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: arrived just as the economy was collapsing. Not to give 50 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: it away. One of the local guards told me that 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: he had fought alongside Robert Mugabi. I'll get to him 52 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: in a bit. When I asked him what Mugabi was like, 53 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: he gave me this haunting stare and simply said he 54 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: is a cruel man. A very telling statement from his 55 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: former comrade. Anyhow, keep up the good work. I love 56 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: your show. Simplify. Yeah, I'll let the rest of that 57 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: thing go. So now I mentioned yesterday where we are now, 58 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: I won't recap it for you again. I've already done 59 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: too much of that. Nineteen seventy four Mozambique, the country 60 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: east of Rhodesia. They had been friendly to Rhodesia because 61 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: they were controlled by the Portuguese. Mozambique falls, Portugal pulls out. 62 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: They say, hey, you can have it now. Mozambique is 63 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: openly hostile to Rhodesia and the communist terrorists. They move 64 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: into Mozambique in a huge way. Gigantic training camps are 65 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: now open in Zambia and Mozambique. The Soviet Communists are 66 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: pouring money and munitions and training into these areas. The Chinese, 67 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: the Chicoms are pouring money and munitions and training into 68 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: these areas. Rhodesia has its enemies amassing on its borders. 69 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: It has officially one friend left on the planet, and 70 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: that friend is South Africa. South Africa kind of on 71 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: the southwestern border of Rhodesia and South Africa was half 72 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: their air force planes. South Africa would send men to help. 73 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: But here is part of the problem with diplomacy. I 74 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't say problem. It's just the way the world works. 75 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: I shouldn't even call it a problem. Let's be adults here. 76 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: It's the way the world works. Countries like the United Nations, 77 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: or countries like the United States, Organizations like the United Nations, 78 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Countries like the UK. They're not stupid. They understand that 79 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Rhodesia is still held up, at least in part by 80 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: the South Africans. Well, that creates a problem for South 81 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: Africa because South Africa is not powerful enough to withstand America, 82 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: the UN, the UK. So they start leaning hard on 83 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Rhodesia to change. And remember the change they want as 84 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: you read it, as you dig into it, the change 85 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: they've always wanted is one man, one vote, man one vote. Well, 86 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: that would mean the Europeans would essentially have no power whatsoever, 87 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and the various African tribes would take over all positions 88 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: of government. Now pause, by this time, that has already 89 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: happened in several countries around Africa. And every place that happened, genocide, poverty, 90 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: war and misery has followed. The world knows. Everybody knows. 91 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: If you hand it back over, they're going to murder 92 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: everybody and destroy every ounce of progress and it's going 93 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: to be a disaster. And the Rhodesians know this as well. 94 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: Remember we're talking a country that got going in eighteen ninety, 95 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: not that old. We're less than one hundred years old 96 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: on this country here, and these Europeans managed to build 97 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: it into the wealthiest, most prosperous country in Africa, modern 98 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: paved roads the world, and they're looking around at every 99 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: other country in Africa fall and saying we're not giving 100 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: it back. You're outside of your mind. But the idea 101 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: was one man, one vote. Now, sorry, we're folks on 102 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: politics for a moment. We'll come back to combat in 103 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: a minute. Don't worry about remembering these details. I've given 104 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: you too many. There's a lot of details in the story. 105 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: The head of Rhodesia is Ian Smith. Was his name, 106 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Ian Smith. He was trying and obviously failed in the end. 107 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: And the different things you read will give you different 108 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: opinions of Ian Smith. I need to clarify that. But 109 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: no matter which way you shake it, he was trying 110 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: really hard to work with Britain on an agreement of 111 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: some kind that would allow Rhodesia to remain Rhodesia while 112 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe giving Britain enough of what they wanted to kind 113 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: of back off. Hey, back off? Now? Why is he's 114 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: so desperate for them to back off? Remember I told 115 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you before that Rhodesha was so wealthy and so prosperous 116 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: that people were pouring in other Africans were pouring in, 117 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: looking for opportunity, looking for work. Europeans were pouring in. Hey, 118 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: this is a great place, fertile ground, modern, let's go 119 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: have an adventure. Let's go, let's go to Rhodesia. By 120 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: this point in the story, we're at the late seventies. 121 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: By this point in the story, that has changed. Now 122 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: farmers are being slaughtered. Now, if you get caught out 123 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: in the hinterlands by the terrorist groups, with the terrorist camps, 124 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: they'll kill you, rape you, torture you. Now you had 125 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: to have an armored convoy. Let's say you and me, 126 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: throw your fam in the car, all through my fami 127 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: in the car. We're gonna go camp in this weekend. 128 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna go out to the hinterlands. They'd call it 129 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: the bush. We're gonna go out to the bush and 130 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna go fishing this weekend. You can't do that 131 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: anymore in Rhodesia, unless, of course, you have a friend 132 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: in the army, because it requires a military convoy to 133 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: drive out to the hinter lands. Think of it this way. 134 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Salisbury is the main city. It wasn't only Salisbury, but 135 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I'll make it easy. Salisbury's the main city. Consider Salisbury 136 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: your fortress of safety. It's four to five fortress of safety. 137 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: That's fine. You leave that fortress, you might die. You 138 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: go out to any of the rural lands in Rhodesia, 139 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you might die, and you might die ugly. Well. Remember, 140 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Rhodesia may have had an elite military, but still it 141 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: was not a military. The country itself, Rhodesia was not 142 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: a military. It was a country, a country made up 143 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: of people of men, women, young, old school children, churches. 144 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: It was a civilization and people who you would previously 145 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: come to Rhodesia in search of opportunity and adventure. They 146 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to live in a place where a landmine 147 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: might incinerate your whole family when you were driving out 148 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: for a picnic after church on a Sunday afternoon. Things 149 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: have gotten so bad in Rhodesia. Europeans are leaving, thousands 150 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: of them. They're done. The country is coming apart. Will 151 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: continue in a moment. Before we continue this, I want 152 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: to encourage you to make twenty twenty six different. I 153 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: want you to give yourself a gift for Christmas this year, 154 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: a gift that's going to make your entire life better. 155 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: How many gifts have ever made your whole life better? 156 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: A male Vitality stack or a female Vitality stack subscription 157 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: from Chok will do it. And I know that maybe 158 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm over selling it. 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C hoq dot com promo code Jesse. 168 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: Chuck dot com promo code Jesse. We'll be back fighting 169 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: for your freedom every day the Jesse Kelly Show. It 170 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic, fantastic Tuesday. 171 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: You can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 172 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Back to our Rhodesian Bush War history. Now we need 173 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: to pause on Rhodesia specifically for a moment, and we 174 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: need to focus on the terrorists or gorillas, depending on 175 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: which side you're on. Here. As I told you before, 176 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: there are two very very different communists terrorist groups, and 177 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: they're different because they come from the two different African 178 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: tribes that had previously controlled Rhodesia. I won't bother with 179 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: naming the tribes again, that's just a detail. It doesn't matter. 180 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: You can go dig into it. The tribes are known 181 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: as different things anyway, but two different tribes historical hatred, slavery, slaughter, rape, 182 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: historical hatred. Well, one of those tribes backed by the Soviets, 183 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: the other tribe backed by the Chinese. But wait, there's more. 184 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Communists are horrible, aren't they. They're even horrible to each other. 185 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: You see, there's actually an internal communist revolt that kind 186 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: of slows things down for the Soviet backed communists because 187 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: they end up having their leaders arrested and tortured, and 188 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: then they have to arrest and torture the guy. It's 189 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: don't My whole point in this was, don't think that 190 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: it's all hunky dory with the communist terrorists who are 191 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: setting up these camps outside of Rhodesia, and in some 192 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: cases in Rhodesia. It is not now back to being 193 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: in Rhodesia. The Rhodesians are running out of stuff, and 194 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: it really is. It's amazing how how they were able 195 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: to fix planes and fix helicopters with essentially what they 196 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: had on hand. They're patching it all together. I was 197 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: reading one thing from a guy. He was Rhodesian light infantry, 198 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: and he talked all the time about how he would 199 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: have to stitch up his own combat gear because the 200 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: gear they had was so worn out and frayed that 201 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: you couldn't even store anything in it. Remember these guys 202 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: the toughest nails. Their military was excellent, but they're running 203 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: out of things, and they're also hurting for man power. 204 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: Remember yesterday what I mentioned fire force. What it was 205 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: Fireforce were these different quick reaction forces in the country 206 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: and they would they would find terrorists, they'd get load 207 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: up in the heroes, load up in the planes, take 208 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: off towards the terrorists, try to surround them, envelop them 209 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: and kill them. All sounds great, worked really well, was 210 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: a genius idea, But the number of terrorists is seemingly endless. 211 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: The number of Rhodesians is not. They don't have the 212 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: man power to suffer a broken ankle. These fire force 213 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: units were supposed to be one hundred men, one hundred 214 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: and twenty men. They were always going out with seventy. 215 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: People were dying, people were getting hurt. And again, this 216 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: is a tiny portion of society. The man power is limited. 217 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: So let's discuss us somebody briefly here, because he's going 218 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: to matter. In fact, the email brought him up already, 219 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: Robert Mugabi. People who have any understanding of history of 220 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: the region will know the name. Of course, certainly older 221 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: people will know the name Robert Mugabi. Spoiler alert. He's 222 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: the head of one of the communist groups, the Chinese backed, 223 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: actually the Chinese backed communist group that will eventually conquer Rhodesia. 224 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Remember that he is already a monster, a butcher. He 225 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: is known as a butcher. He has advanced Chinese training, 226 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: not just on military stuff, on insurgencies, on everything. He 227 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: is somebody widely known to be a bad, bad person. 228 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned Ian Smith's negotiations with the British government, how 229 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to negotiate some sort of an agreement where 230 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: the Rhodesians can the Europeans essentially can retain control, but 231 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: of course with increased African representation and things like that. 232 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: And one of the things the Rhodesians were passionate about 233 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: was under no circumstances can Robert Mugabi take over this country. 234 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: This was something well known even with the other terrorists, 235 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: the Soviet back terrorists, even they knew, Oh, Robert Mugabi, 236 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: that would probably be bad. He definitely seems like a 237 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: genocidal madman who will kill and torture everybody. We should 238 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: probably avoid that. Now, what kind of things are the 239 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Rhodesians doing. Some of these things you may love, some 240 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: may not. I mentioned yesterday. They're putting up their own 241 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: land mindes, lots of them. They are draining the rural 242 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: areas because now that the Communists are able to come 243 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,479 Speaker 1: into Rhodesia. In the rural areas, the communists are recruiting Rhodesians, 244 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Black African Rhodesians, recruiting them from inside the country. And 245 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: by the way, because they're communists, it's not always lovely rocruitment. 246 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: Recruitment with signing bonuses and candy canes for everybody. They 247 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: operated in much the same way the Vietcong operated. They 248 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: would walk into your African village and pull the village 249 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: elder in the village leader and ask him for twenty 250 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: young men to join the communist cause. And if he 251 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: said no, they gather the whole village around and they 252 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: carve his guts out while he's still alive in front 253 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: of everybody, rape all the women, and chop people's heads off. 254 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's just human rights abuses like you can't 255 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: possibly imagine. Well, now this is making a bad problem 256 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: even worse for the Rhodesians. They're having internal problems, and 257 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: so they start doing things like I already mentioned, draining 258 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: these areas. They're not letting people stay there anymore. Now 259 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: they're having things like curfews where if they catch you 260 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: out after a certain hour, you die. Period. Well, what's 261 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: going to happen? Then you're going to eventually kill innocent people, 262 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: and then that's going to make international news. They're just 263 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: swimming against the tide. So they eventually do pull off 264 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: one of the cooler military things I've ever heard in 265 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: my life that was awesome and wonderful in a complete 266 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: and total disaster. I will explain what that is in 267 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: a moment. Before I explain what that is I want 268 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: to read this email, Jesse. I listened to your radio 269 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: show today and you read an email from a guy 270 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: that donated to preborn. He felt guilty about his past. 271 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: It touched my heart, so I also gave to preborn 272 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: from my past. I hope to save a soul denied 273 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: of life. 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So by now I mentioned already the Rhodesians 294 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: are having to take extreme measures. And keep in mind, 295 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to present them as fluffy and cuddly. 296 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: They're doing some torturing themselves. They are, and they're doing 297 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: things that would make you probably squeamish. For instance, they're 298 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: selling cigarettes, clothing to the communist guerrillas that's poisoned. They're 299 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: poisoning them. These are the kinds of things they're doing. 300 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: Now I mentioned Mozambique and how big of a problem 301 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: Mozambique was. These huge communist training camps were in Mozambique. 302 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Now there's a unit, and I read a wonderful book. 303 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Three SIPs of Gin is the name of the book. 304 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: Three SIPs of Gin is the name of the book. 305 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Three SIPs of Gin is the name of the book. Anyway, 306 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: about this unit I've mentioned before called the Sellers Scouts 307 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: or Selu Scouts. They were in elite unit. As I mentioned, 308 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: more than half of them, and that's going to matter 309 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: for Operation Elan's purposes. More than half of them were 310 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Black Africans. Many of those Black Africans were actually recruits. 311 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: They had been communists and then they got recruited and 312 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: they joined the sellas scouts. This unit did more things 313 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: that I could ever lay out than I even know. 314 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I've only read a few books on the subject. 315 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: They were always tracking people. They were doing they were 316 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: posing as warlords, they were poisoning cigarettes. They were the 317 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: clandestine find a way to find them and kill them unit, 318 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: and they came up with an Operation Gutsy is just 319 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: one way you would describe it. You see, there was 320 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: this large communist training camp in Mozambique. Here is what happened. 321 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: The less Scouts knew when the troops would gather for formation. 322 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: I believe there were a couple thousand troops when they 323 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: would gather for formation in this space in Mozambique. Here's 324 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: what they did. They gathered up in a bunch of 325 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: armored cars, armored cars designed by Armored Cars that were 326 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: the same cars that the terrorists would be using. Keep 327 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: in mind cars that had gigantic machine guns on them. 328 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: I won't break down the details of these machine guns. 329 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Also cars that it's hard to see inside an armored car, 330 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: is it not. These SELU scouts used their black members 331 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: and they put terrorist uniforms on them, so they looked 332 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: like the communists terrorists, and those were the ones who 333 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: were the drivers and the turret gunners, of course, And 334 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: they drive up to the gate of this communist training 335 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: camp in Mozambique while all the terrorists are on the 336 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: parade ground for formation, and of course they get stopped 337 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: at the gate. The communists said, what are you doing here? 338 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: And they pull that thing you've seen in the movies 339 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: a thousand times. They say, I'll have you arrested. What 340 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: are you doing stopping me? You peon? I'm general whatever, 341 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm colonel whatever. I'll cut your hands off. Of course 342 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: it's some I'm sure it's some twenty year old idiot 343 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: kid at the gate. Well, wow, sorry, you guys, go ahead. 344 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: They drive these armored vehicles into the base. They are 345 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: outnumbered on this base sixty to one. They are not 346 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: only outnumbered sixty to one, May I repeat myself, they 347 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: are in a totally different country. They are in Mozambique, 348 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: they are not in Rhodesia. They pull the armored vehicles 349 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: with the heavy machine guns onto the parade ground. The 350 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: troops who are on the parade ground, remember there's a 351 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: couple thousand of them, They want to know what's going on. 352 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: They began to gather around the armored vehicles, at which 353 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: point in time the signal is given and the heavy 354 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: machine guns open fire on the defenseless terrorists on the 355 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: parade ground and they start chopping these guys up like cord. 356 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: They slaughter the African terrorists, no deaths on behalf of 357 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the cellas scouts. When they've done what they can do, 358 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: they peel rubber in their armored cars and drive out 359 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: of the base all the way back to Rhodesia. One 360 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: of the most bold, brilliant military actions I have ever 361 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: heard of in my entire life. Angous success right and 362 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: of course widely celebrated in Rhodesia. But as we have discussed, 363 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: there's always a political aspect to war. Always. I don't 364 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: like it, you don't like it. Kill the enemies all 365 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: that matters, But that's not real life. Operation Eland as 366 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: it is called, was a humongous military success, but at 367 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: this point in history, it is a diplomatic, a political disaster. 368 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: Rhodesia is already coming apart. It is politically on the 369 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: outs with the rest of the world, and Jimmy Carter's 370 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: President of the United States of America. Operation Eland mortifies 371 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: the entire planet. Think about it, a bunch of unarmed Africans. 372 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: And of course the Communists say they were all refugees. 373 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: They don't say any of these guys were terrorists or 374 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: soldiers or gorillas. They act like the Rhodesians rode in 375 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: and mowed down a bunch of women and children. Now, 376 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: what's the one friend Rhodesia has left on the planet 377 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: South Africa. After Operation Eland, the world comes down so 378 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: hard on South Africa. South Africa says, hey, Rhodesia, we're out. 379 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: You are on your own. And they leave and they 380 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: take their men, and they take their planes and they bail. 381 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: Now it's over, I mean, at this exact moment, it 382 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: doesn't end, but this ends Rhodesia. They are a land 383 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: locked country where the modern countries of the world have 384 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: declared them to be the enemy, and physically every country 385 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: now on their border is hostile to them. Not only 386 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: no more trade, most of the countries on their border 387 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: are harboring and training and supplying terrorists pouring into their country. 388 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: Now they know it's over, the only question is what 389 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: do you do? So they came up with a couple 390 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: different plans. There was one plan. One plan was to 391 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: essentially leave the country and burn down and destroy all 392 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: the infrastructure on the way out, essentially fight a rearguard 393 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: action down to South Africa where you'll leave and just 394 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, fill up, put concrete in every toilet, rip 395 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: up every street, leave nothing for the Africans. But what 396 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: happens is they agree to have an election, a one man, 397 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: one vote style election the Brits had been pushing for 398 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: from the very very beginning. Well, how do communists operate 399 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: elections here in the United States of America? How'd that 400 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election go? How do you think Robert Mugabi 401 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: and his political party, how exactly do you think they're 402 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: going to handle an election in Rhodesia. Yeah, let me 403 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: go ahead and spoil it for you. Robert Mugaby with 404 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: some uh shady dealings, if you will, takes power in Rhodesia. 405 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Now We'll just do a couple more sentences on this 406 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: thirty more seconds, because I think you already know how 407 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: it goes from here. It doesn't go very well, all right, 408 00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: hang on, Jesse Kelly returns next. It is the Jesse 409 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: Kelly Show, final segment of the Jesse Kelly Show on 410 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: this hour. Don't worry, we still have an entire other hour. 411 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: It's just going to be our final segment on the 412 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: Rhodesian Bush War. Fast forward. We finally have peace in Rhodesia. 413 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Peace doesn't go very well. Robert Mugabi and his Communists 414 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: take over the government. Now I need to clarify. I 415 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: said there were a couple different plans. The Europeans had. 416 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: One of those plans actually involved now performing a military 417 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: coup and killing them all. But they decided to set 418 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: those plans aside and they walked away. But not all 419 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: Europeans walked away. And I know, given what we were 420 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: going to know here in a moment, that probably sounds bonkers. Hey, 421 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: some angry communists, some murderous time, it just took over. 422 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Why would you stay? Let's remember these are real people, 423 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: and let's remember you might be on your third generation 424 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: in your family farm, in Rhodesia. Maybe your grandfather came 425 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: here eighty years ago. It's easy looking back down, it's 426 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: easy for you. It's easy for me to say, hey, 427 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: you got to get out. That may be everything you 428 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: have it maybe everything you've ever known. I mean you 429 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: may you might be fifty five years old. What are 430 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Go start over? A lot of Europeans 431 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: chose to stay, and Robert Mugabi, who understood the world 432 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: was watching him now, initially tried to play it off 433 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: as if he was just going to be a pretty 434 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: fair guy. Still allowed a few Europeans to be represented 435 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: in the government, didn't immediately start the purges. But he's 436 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: a communist. What do communists do with power? Do you 437 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: think they're different than our than our communists? What do 438 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: they do? They do two things. They reward their friends 439 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: and they punish their enemies. Robert Mugabi begins to fill 440 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: up the government with committed communists. Robert Mugabi also he 441 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: believes he has two sets of enemies in the country, 442 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: not just the white Europeans. Remember those Soviet backed gorillas, 443 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: the Soviet back terrorists. Remember how they were from a 444 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: different tribe than Mugabi. Mugabi starts to get a little 445 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: bit stronger in his rhetoric of these people are the enemy, 446 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: these people are the reason things aren't working well because, 447 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: of course, surprise, surprise, things start to fall apart the 448 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: second you hand the country to the communists. Robert Mugabi 449 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: starts to genocide the opposing tribe. Robert Mugabi starts to 450 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: do things like this. Farmer farmer or white European farmer 451 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: is well aware that white European farms have been attacked, 452 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: few of them lately. Anyway, farmer feels that his family 453 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: may be in danger. He may be in danger, so 454 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: he sends his wife and children into town, into Salisbury 455 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: or somewhere like that, where he thinks they'll be safe. 456 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: And then he wakes up one night to find his 457 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: home is surrounded by gangs with machetes and axes, gangs 458 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: that have been sent there by Robert Mugabi. He calls 459 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: his mother, tells mom what's happening, essentially tells her goodbye. 460 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: His mother, as any mother would, hangs up the phone 461 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: a bit distraught and calls the police. Except who do 462 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: you think controls the police now in what is now Zimbabwe? 463 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Who do you think controls the police. Remember what happens 464 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: in our big cities now with these big city police chiefs. 465 00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: The police don't even answer the phone. That man ends 466 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: up being hacked to death and shot to death inside 467 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: of his home. This became an extremely common tale as 468 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: Zimbabwe slowly but surely descended into what all communist countries 469 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: descend into, a one party state full of torture, death, genocide, 470 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: and now the Jewel of Africa, the wealthiest, most prosperous 471 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: country in Africa, now makes the Jesse Kelly Show crappiest 472 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: country in the World tournament. All it took was twenty 473 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: thirty years of communist rule to destroy everything civilized people 474 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: had built. It is an insanely fascinating tale, a sad tale, 475 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: if we're being honest, isn't it sad? There are people 476 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: who are passionate about Rhodesia. Keep in mind, I remember 477 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: I teased yesterday that we've got a guy who was there. 478 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: He's going to actually join us tomorrow. We've we've reached 479 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: out to him courtesy of a listener of the show, 480 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: actually a Navy Seal listener of the show, which is 481 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: really cool. Center five Brother Navy Seal listener of the 482 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: show knows a veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War, and 483 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: he's going to join us tomorrow, probably just be a 484 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: brief little thing. I just want to touch base with 485 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: him on it. I want, I want to hear from him. 486 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him yet. Jewish producer Chris as 487 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: I haven't. I'm going to talk to him. We'll just 488 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: get his perspective on it. But are there are Rhodesians, 489 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: many of them still alive today, who remember it and 490 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: it is such a point of sorrow, And there are 491 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: people who are just passionate about it, who think about it, 492 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: and it's just such a point of sorrow. And I 493 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: really thought it would be an appropriate lesson for where 494 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: we are and what happens if you don't stop communist 495 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: insurgents from making over your country, from occupying the positions 496 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: of power, they will bring nothing but death and misery 497 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: in the end. And who is better off? Now? Who's 498 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: better off? I'd love to ask the United Nations and Britain, 499 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: in all these countries that helped doom Rhodesia, are you 500 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: proud of yourself right now? There was a wonderful place, 501 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: not just for white Europeans, for Black Africans, employment, civilization, 502 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: modern medicine, and you had to rip it away from 503 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: them with your race activism. And now people starve to 504 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: death regularly, living below the poverty line, hospitals that don't 505 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: have any medicine. That's what happens. A very very sad tale, 506 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: but a very fascinating tale. And like I said in 507 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: the beginning, we're going to get back to politics now. 508 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: Like I said in the beginning, if this fascinates you, 509 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: into your emails, it most certainly does. If this fascinates you, 510 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: go pick up a book on it, an audiobook on it. 511 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple books that I read just because 512 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: they were my favorites. But there are so many. There 513 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: are fascinating YouTube channels. People have done podcasts with these veterans. 514 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: You can go so much more in depth than I 515 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: went into. I gave you the thirty thousand foot view. 516 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: If this war, if this conflict fascinates you, look into it. 517 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: I didn't even go into all the mercenaries that came 518 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: over and fought with them, including Americans, Vietnam veterans, all 519 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: kinds of people fascinating. Anyway, Let's talk about a healthcare problem. 520 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: You may have some emails letting juveniles out of prison 521 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: and more. Thanks