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Speaker 1: We're in the building, man, and uh look the countdown
Speaker 1: has begun and it's only a few more. It's only
Speaker 1: a few more days, man, before we get this day
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Speaker 1: my man, the only for the two that we acknowledge,
Speaker 1: my man, Barried Church is in the building. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Big down? Man, I'm in I'm in here, I'm in here.
Speaker 1: Newi Scruss is on the highway. He's trying to get
Speaker 1: money the fly away. But he will be here. He
Speaker 1: will be here. Danny mcraige is still with the cheering
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Speaker 1: the camp at at and T Stadium. We've been talking
Speaker 1: about it all week, but that is a great camp
Speaker 1: that he's only the good calls, man, But you know what,
Speaker 1: don't like I always stought this thing. I always stought
Speaker 1: this thing. We always do a check in, man, and
Speaker 1: look for me. I do this and I check in
Speaker 1: with my people, man, because I want to be present
Speaker 1: for anything that's going on in your life. The same
Speaker 1: with me. You know what I'm saying. So look, man,
Speaker 1: I'm checking your mentals. Brother, how are you today? You
Speaker 1: know what? As usual? Man, I'm extremely blessed. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good. It's a beautiful day. I was gonna get cold.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get cold a little bit, you know, this weekend.
Speaker 1: But right now feeling great. Got to pick up the
Speaker 1: in laws and a couple of days to bring them in.
Speaker 1: You know, kids gonna love that and everything's gonna be sweet.
Speaker 1: So feeling blessed, man, How about yourself, big dog? Man?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna tell you, Like this be
Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a trying day today. Man.
Speaker 1: Woke up this morning to the news of Franco Harris's passing,
Speaker 1: and um, you know it's um for me being that
Speaker 1: you know my uncle is Joe green h. Franco Harris
Speaker 1: is like, uh, it's like a friend of the family,
Speaker 1: somebody that's always there, you know. And I grew up
Speaker 1: seeing this man, you know and uh, man, one of
Speaker 1: the one of the one of the one of the
Speaker 1: just nicest people you ever want to meet. Just a
Speaker 1: great person, always always uh with something encouraging to say,
Speaker 1: you know, um, and not only that man, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. Man. This game is given me so
Speaker 1: much because you know, it's it's helped me. But I've
Speaker 1: been around some of the greatest athletes to ever play
Speaker 1: the game. And when I look back on this relationship, man,
Speaker 1: I've never looked at him like that. I always looked
Speaker 1: at him as you know, Uncle Franco, the man that's
Speaker 1: just around you know. Um. You know, my my son
Speaker 1: had an opportunity when my uncle got a statue outside
Speaker 1: we got a statue placed outside of the University of
Speaker 1: North Texas UM to sit in the press box with Franco.
Speaker 1: And you know, I didn't tell my son right then
Speaker 1: on the spot man, you know who that is, that's Franco.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't do that. I just he sat
Speaker 1: down and he talked to my son and he talked
Speaker 1: her to him about you know what he wanted to
Speaker 1: do with his football career? Where did he want to go?
Speaker 1: What do you want to major in? About life stuff?
Speaker 1: And that's just man, that was just the kind of
Speaker 1: man that he was. And you know, I think that
Speaker 1: you know, from from my uncle, from my family. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm praying for him. Um, but that's that's a tough loss, man,
Speaker 1: because he's losing he's losing his friends, his brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: guys that he played with. And I just, man, it's
Speaker 1: at that point. And so man, for me, it's been tough. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a holiday season. So you know, that
Speaker 1: was not something that I wanted to to hear. But
Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, Bro, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: in the building. You in the building. Man, I'm in
Speaker 1: the building. You know what I'm saying that, And uh,
Speaker 1: I'm here to talk about my cowboys for for sure.
Speaker 1: And uh, the only way to transition to this is,
Speaker 1: you know, offer this a god bless FRANKL. Harrison and
Speaker 1: his wife Dana is his son, uh and the whole
Speaker 1: you know, Stiller's nation family, Uh to everybody. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: Condoles is an R and p um. But I want
Speaker 1: to talk about something man, that's that's been on me too.
Speaker 1: I was wearing on you was wearing on this sky man.
Speaker 1: This guy, this guy Shady McCay. Oh, hang it up,
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta bring this up. He said what he's
Speaker 1: saying on television, man, Man, people weren't listening, like people,
Speaker 1: come on, man, let's talk about it. Man. So yesterday
Speaker 1: on FS one speak um great David Hellman used to
Speaker 1: be be here. David Hellman is now Holly HollyHood the Helman.
Speaker 1: It's on this show with Joy Taylor uh and Emmanuel Acho.
Speaker 1: They have a show and speak and on this show,
Speaker 1: Lashaw McCoy goes into a rendition about Dak pres Scott
Speaker 1: and says that Dak is asked, I asked. That's that's
Speaker 1: what he said. And so to me, like when when
Speaker 1: I heard it, one of the things that I know,
Speaker 1: you know, hates a't hateresn't hate it, and I expect
Speaker 1: for him to do that. And that's what it's letting
Speaker 1: people know that the robbery is real. You've been a
Speaker 1: part of it, it's real rights, it's bad blood and
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get anything. Anybody to say anything positive
Speaker 1: about the other. But to me, it just kind of
Speaker 1: it just stood out to me that this man would
Speaker 1: have the platform to say this about another professional and
Speaker 1: it's no different from me, ESPN or the other ones
Speaker 1: that you have players on and personalities that hate on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But for him to say that Dak Is
Speaker 1: asked to me was just there's a lot of words
Speaker 1: I can't use. Yes, I feel it, I can see it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of words that I can't use what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. It's a lot of words that I can't use.
Speaker 1: But the one word that I will say is that
Speaker 1: that was insulted very much. That was insulting. And so BC,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I want to know from you man,
Speaker 1: when you got there, when you heard that quote? Man,
Speaker 1: what did you feel about that? So I was watching it,
Speaker 1: you know, I was getting to work out in at
Speaker 1: the crib. I'm watching it on the TV, and I
Speaker 1: hear him just just blurt that out of his mouth,
Speaker 1: just you know, as soon as he got on there
Speaker 1: talking about Dak's ass, and I was and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there thinking to myself, like he's been waiting to come
Speaker 1: out and say something because he was off the show
Speaker 1: for counor. What happened, you know, vacation, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: but he was couldn't wait to get that off his chest.
Speaker 1: And for him to say that, I mean, it's extremely
Speaker 1: disrespectful and it's out of pocket, like you don't, dude,
Speaker 1: like you know, you're a professional on National TV. Man,
Speaker 1: this ain't It ain't like we were sitting in you know,
Speaker 1: amongst friends, or you in the locker room chilling. You
Speaker 1: know what your teammates, because I've done that in the
Speaker 1: past when I'm with my teammates and were chilling. We're
Speaker 1: gonna really tell you how we feel about a certain player,
Speaker 1: but we would never go out there and say it
Speaker 1: in public or say it on National TV. And the
Speaker 1: fact that that man had to add as to go
Speaker 1: out there and say that this man was poop poo
Speaker 1: trash but the other word for it, it's just out
Speaker 1: of pocket to me. And the fact that he just
Speaker 1: blurts this stuff out with no factual evidence to back
Speaker 1: it up, like you just saying click bait stuff just
Speaker 1: to say it. At least hellman gets on there and
Speaker 1: he backs it up with stats. My man's just going
Speaker 1: out there saying this dude is poop poo trash. Why
Speaker 1: is he poopoo trash? Shady? Oh, I could just see
Speaker 1: it with my eyes. I can see that the eye test. No, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not I need more to it because
Speaker 1: the man is far from trash for you to go
Speaker 1: out there national television and state that in front of
Speaker 1: everybody like he's just gone, man, that that's out of pocket,
Speaker 1: and it's it's disrespectful, in my opinion, disrespectful. Neuis welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Yes, thank you, Babe lager So, Babe
Speaker 1: Laufenberger ud given us. He his hat to remember and
Speaker 1: it's about his beautiful boy. Um And by the way
Speaker 1: I listened to the show, I was driving. I was
Speaker 1: over at TC was signing day and had to get
Speaker 1: some stuff done with coach Stikes as they get ready
Speaker 1: to go to the the Fiesta Bowl. I'm gonna go cover
Speaker 1: the cover this series out there, um Man. What you
Speaker 1: said about Franco and when I hit you today, Man,
Speaker 1: it touched me when I saw that he passed away
Speaker 1: in the first person I thought of was his uncle
Speaker 1: Joe Breen, who I've been blessed enough. He likes and
Speaker 1: knows me. Man. It's it's crazy, man, and but he's
Speaker 1: losing so many of his guys. Man, and heck and
Speaker 1: I are at that age. You know the football we
Speaker 1: love is is because of those guys. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirteen. I always remember Franco Harris running in
Speaker 1: for that touchdown because the referee got in the way
Speaker 1: of Cliff Harris. Franco running for you. But but a
Speaker 1: class individual. Man, that's the thing about if you've ever
Speaker 1: been had the opportunity, which heck you've had to be
Speaker 1: around those seventies Steelers and seventies Cowboys of just how
Speaker 1: the class overall of those gentlemen. Man, you know, these
Speaker 1: are guys you know when you when you're mad him
Speaker 1: and you walked away, You're like wow. And for as
Speaker 1: great as they were, you would never know it the
Speaker 1: way they act. Bro, You're go in this locker room. Now,
Speaker 1: some of these guys, you make one Pro Bowl and
Speaker 1: you know this man got four rings on its own.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't wouldn't even know it, ma'am. So, so you
Speaker 1: know when you see your uncle man, give him my
Speaker 1: love and and that that I am thinking of him,
Speaker 1: and it is. And you're from Pittsburgh, so so you
Speaker 1: know the legend the picture of him, the statue of
Speaker 1: Franco Airport, you know, yeah, and for us the cowboys,
Speaker 1: for for for folks who grew up on those cowboys
Speaker 1: like heck and I, um, this is a sad day
Speaker 1: because you're losing your losing some of your childhood. Obviously
Speaker 1: you're losing it an uncle, a family member. Um man,
Speaker 1: just just tough. But back to what shady. First of
Speaker 1: I never watched the show. I love Dave Hellman, our
Speaker 1: friend love Himnuel. I chose my friend. But I never
Speaker 1: watched those shows. That's not my So what I do
Speaker 1: see or clips and when when you got we sent
Speaker 1: the tech chain and I looked at the clip and
Speaker 1: I saw it, and I just my first world came. Okay,
Speaker 1: decorum and the whole lack of it as a player
Speaker 1: to about another player. That's one thing when it's the
Speaker 1: Skips of the World saying something exactly exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: but when guys who've played this game, who understand how
Speaker 1: tough it is to play this game, for guys who
Speaker 1: are black, who understand what black quarterbacks go through. When
Speaker 1: I saw that, heck Man, I just said, it's a
Speaker 1: lack of decorum. And another reason, just confirst why I
Speaker 1: never turned those shows on. I never watch them, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm the complete opposite, you know, because this is
Speaker 1: the business that I love and I man, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to and that's why I opened a Monday
Speaker 1: would apologize in the Cowboy nation because there's no place
Speaker 1: to go when it comes down to hearing a rational
Speaker 1: voice unless you come on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
Speaker 1: hear us break down what's going on with the team,
Speaker 1: because everybody has an agenda when it comes down to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. You know, I don't care if it's
Speaker 1: Many Comes, if it's Dan Olowski, I don't care who
Speaker 1: it is. Those guys have And my man, Marcus spears,
Speaker 1: he by himself. Let me just not let me take
Speaker 1: him out of it, because Marcus spears, he will see
Speaker 1: he will would be rational and talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I look at we were talking yesterday about, you know,
Speaker 1: me as a color analyst, how much feel my breakdown
Speaker 1: and what it means to go into a booth and
Speaker 1: be on ESPN and talk about talk about this football,
Speaker 1: football teams and know the inner workings of how teams go.
Speaker 1: I watch film on this team all day. That's why
Speaker 1: I feel so confident in them. I look at other
Speaker 1: teams and I can say, oh, they don't have that.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have one of those. You know,
Speaker 1: we look at our running game. Cee Lamb is capable
Speaker 1: of doing this. But when you could just throw all
Speaker 1: the numbers out, when you could throw everything out and
Speaker 1: just say nah, he trash And I'm just basically off
Speaker 1: of what I see. Look, come on, Dog, oh you
Speaker 1: ain't giving me nothing to fight with you And Dave, Dave,
Speaker 1: you know Dave, my boy man. I loved Dave to death.
Speaker 1: Man and he does a wonderful job of decorum and
Speaker 1: keeping his you know cool because you know me, dog
Speaker 1: and man, I would have words for that man, because
Speaker 1: that's not cool. Man Hack. Going back to what you said,
Speaker 1: you know when you watch one reason why I don't
Speaker 1: watch as I know how the sausage is made. Being
Speaker 1: in TV, I know what they're trying to do. And
Speaker 1: Mike Hill, who's now Fox Sports, used to be the ESPN,
Speaker 1: and before that, Mike hit worked. We worked together the
Speaker 1: NBC five and one day it was a whole cowboy topic.
Speaker 1: Anybody might have been Thursday. They were going at this
Speaker 1: thing with this heavy segment and it's Mike, you know,
Speaker 1: this is days old, and it's not what you guys
Speaker 1: are playing it up to be. And he said, I know,
Speaker 1: but they want to talk about the cowboys. The cowboys
Speaker 1: are are are their cat nip, and but it's days old,
Speaker 1: and and you know it's been you know, it's been
Speaker 1: spot they didn't care, and so manufacturing things about the
Speaker 1: cowboys is a big deal. So over there now it's
Speaker 1: been manufactured former Eagles. Shady hates cowboys. We see what
Speaker 1: it does for stephen A over here. We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: it over here and then bam and resulting in Shady,
Speaker 1: you know, doing what he did with with Helman that
Speaker 1: little bit of clip that I saw. And apparently from
Speaker 1: what I've been hearing and seeing, this is a constant thing,
Speaker 1: Shady versus going after, going after helmet, and the Helmet
Speaker 1: is now put in a position of defender of Dak
Speaker 1: all the time. There's a political show used to be
Speaker 1: an old political show on Fox News called Hannity and Columbs.
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity has got his own show now. But it
Speaker 1: started off as Sean Hannity, the the heavy conservative guy,
Speaker 1: and and and then Alan Combs he was, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was kind of a liberal, but he kind of. He
Speaker 1: just was totally opposite and that was it. And then
Speaker 1: it became after a while it was Sean beating up
Speaker 1: on Combs and then officially he got blowed out right right.
Speaker 1: But but you knew, you knew what the show was
Speaker 1: going to be, and so that once again, I don't
Speaker 1: watch it because I already know. I know how the
Speaker 1: sausage is made here. How much has been put toward
Speaker 1: on air or segments about the Chiefs needing to go
Speaker 1: to over time against Houston, to the level of Dallas
Speaker 1: beating Houston at the end, it's two different things, in't so,
Speaker 1: so that's what it is. Cowboys drive ratings, man. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but when I went to
Speaker 1: the stadium and I saw that this was the Fox
Speaker 1: game of the weekend, really Jackson do but it's the Cowboys, man,
Speaker 1: When in doubt, that's who television executive you used to
Speaker 1: say back in the day, winning doubt, give them the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: So you're doing these shows, you're looking for topics. Your
Speaker 1: producers you know what they do, Oh we got a Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They throw it in there, and but I'm just like, shady,
Speaker 1: How how do people actually listen to that like it.
Speaker 1: I'll be I was one of those I gotta take
Speaker 1: my hand falls off time. I'm like, what is this
Speaker 1: because guess what we're sitting here talking about it. It's
Speaker 1: getting clicks. Low being you know, the low common denominator
Speaker 1: of the stuff now works. That's it's it's it's we
Speaker 1: in our society getting turned on that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh no, really, even though we know the decorum of it.
Speaker 1: Player you know, player towards other player, you know, those
Speaker 1: of us look at it, like come on, but even
Speaker 1: look at look at our look at our political system now. Man.
Speaker 1: The things that people used to say is candidates or
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even think, or stuff that would not you
Speaker 1: would not get elected for We're electing these people now.
Speaker 1: We're electing people who are dumb. We're electing people who
Speaker 1: come out and say the craziest things of the world.
Speaker 1: And our television now and our sports is players who
Speaker 1: used to have there used to be the line of respect.
Speaker 1: It's gone out the door. Man. Now I can just
Speaker 1: sit up here and call you, call you ass and
Speaker 1: with with no facts, nothing and just just because because
Speaker 1: I want to. And oh I'm gonna be the former player,
Speaker 1: So I get the bully you dave hellman because you
Speaker 1: you know so. So that's the formula. And guess what, man,
Speaker 1: people watch it. It's crazy. It's like it's turned into TMZ. Now,
Speaker 1: like what happened is you know, I mean sports talk
Speaker 1: shows where man, now they just emz I seen it,
Speaker 1: He's asked, because I've seen it. What look, man, Well,
Speaker 1: let's helpless Shan McCoy out. No, let's help him. No,
Speaker 1: they don't. He wouldn't help Now, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you this. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean saying no? He said no, no, let's let's
Speaker 1: helpless Sean, because what he did was he missed a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of ass on his way to that because
Speaker 1: we got receipts, we got seated in address that he
Speaker 1: could have found him some other ass to talk about,
Speaker 1: because it's a it's thirty one other one that he
Speaker 1: could have circled underline and highlighted and said that this
Speaker 1: guy isn't getting it done for his team. But to
Speaker 1: go to dak after his winning streak in the numbers
Speaker 1: that you could go to and say, on third down,
Speaker 1: what is Dallas in the league? On third down? What
Speaker 1: is Dallas in the league a scoring since Dak's return
Speaker 1: with all of that Cooper Rush talk and everybody game,
Speaker 1: But they want to move the goalposts every time? Knew
Speaker 1: it when they want to make an argument about that
Speaker 1: with Dakers led the league of the interception since she's
Speaker 1: been back, But they don't look at Josh Allen's numbers.
Speaker 1: They don't look at them. Well, you can't argue chat Challen,
Speaker 1: But how can he contemporary? He's he plays, he plays
Speaker 1: a position. Who else are we going to judge him against?
Speaker 1: To hear people talk, you would think that Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: is still the highest paid quarterback exactly. Not you would
Speaker 1: think that. But okay, are you gonna go on these
Speaker 1: shows and talk about Kyler Murray's numbers and what he's
Speaker 1: been doing Arizona? No, they don't do that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about all the cash of Russell Wilson got and
Speaker 1: what's producing the trash he's been No. Are we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Kirk Cousins and and his bag of bag
Speaker 1: of money and the lack of what he's produced for it. No,
Speaker 1: they don't. Dat moves the needle. It's the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: that's that's a part of it, and this is this
Speaker 1: is what we do. Hey, let's get our first break
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Speaker 1: I'll raise my hand. I probably haven't appreciated his play
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Speaker 1: They're out here protecting, uh, protecting story. Michael Parson's not
Speaker 1: gonna be practice today. He's dealing with an illness and
Speaker 1: miss practice yesterday with an illness. So um our linebacker
Speaker 1: has got some healing up to do there. Layton Vanderesh
Speaker 1: basically says, hey, it's the next singer. I've just got
Speaker 1: to work through it. I've never had a stinger. Don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys had it when you played it
Speaker 1: all it hurt. Yeah, it sounds like but it ain't
Speaker 1: gonna always see your fingertips. Yeah, yeah, No, it's not
Speaker 1: a good. How do you so? How sleeping when you
Speaker 1: have something like that? For you see, I've never had
Speaker 1: one that was like lingering. I had one that lasted
Speaker 1: maybe a mine like you hit your funny bump or
Speaker 1: something like that. I had one. I never had the
Speaker 1: lingering one though, where it kind of just stuck on
Speaker 1: that and I can I can only kind of still
Speaker 1: to be lingering like that, your whole arm goes dead.
Speaker 1: You know. It's feel like you talked about your hand.
Speaker 1: It's like your hand is literally covered in ants. That's
Speaker 1: on five. So immediately just get off the field. And
Speaker 1: when that happen, yeah you get yeah, you get out
Speaker 1: of the way. You know. Again, it's there's I think
Speaker 1: there's degrees of stingers. Obviously the one that he had
Speaker 1: was obviously on the severe end. If he thought initially
Speaker 1: that it was his neck. Yeah, you know, so that's
Speaker 1: that's a whole whole other part um to that. But
Speaker 1: I think what Tyrn Smith a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: ended up having to have surgery, yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: of stingers. So, man, I appreciate what you just said
Speaker 1: about l V because I don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been appreciating him in his linebacker play for
Speaker 1: a number of years. And you gotta think, man, he
Speaker 1: was a part of that Mike Nolan defense. He was
Speaker 1: a culprit there, usual suspect, and he saw a lot
Speaker 1: of bad plays being made. I defended him on that though,
Speaker 1: did you? And and and On this show? Our whole
Speaker 1: thing was and we defended We're like, why would you
Speaker 1: take a guy who's made the Pro Bowl on the outside,
Speaker 1: who's been dealing with nex you shoes and throw him
Speaker 1: in the middle linebacker spot. And then in the same
Speaker 1: with Jailer like you took two guys who seemingly were
Speaker 1: on a trajectory upward and you messed him up. And
Speaker 1: now you look at him. Heck in the second year
Speaker 1: with this dan Quinn defense, and he's playing good football.
Speaker 1: He's playing really good, go far good. He's been helping
Speaker 1: his run defense out a lot, and you see him
Speaker 1: shutting blocks. He's sideline the sideline out there. So he's
Speaker 1: having one of his more productive seasons. And we all
Speaker 1: said going into a contract yet, you either going to
Speaker 1: succeed or you're gonna fail. And he haven't been on
Speaker 1: that succeeding side so far this year. So hopefully he
Speaker 1: can come back because we know this defense is gonna
Speaker 1: need him, especially with that lackings you know, secondary, they
Speaker 1: got a lot of injuries up there. Upfront, Hankins is
Speaker 1: gonna be out, so this defense needed an lv in there.
Speaker 1: So not this week, but hopefully next week he can return.
Speaker 1: And I love this. What I love more than anything
Speaker 1: about dan Quinn is the scheme that he arrived with.
Speaker 1: Um I love it. I mean people don't. Ray Lewis
Speaker 1: is one of the best linebackers in the business ever,
Speaker 1: but no winding he ever gives him credit for playing
Speaker 1: with Tony Sarah Goose and Sam Adams. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He has some beef upfront. And when you
Speaker 1: have guys that big, that gobbler space eaters that allow
Speaker 1: ray Lewis to run sideline the sideline, he can be
Speaker 1: who he is. We are seeing the best version of
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh because of a Jonathan Hankins. We see.
Speaker 1: People don't understand when Carlos Watkins gets a holding penalty
Speaker 1: and you ask himself, how to hell there's a defensive
Speaker 1: lineman get a holding penalty. He's keeping that guy from
Speaker 1: shedding and getting downhill on your linebacker. And when you
Speaker 1: got a guy that's willing to sacrifice his production in
Speaker 1: this way, that's what our guys up front it. Look
Speaker 1: you look at those Diggi Zoor, You look at Neville Gallimore.
Speaker 1: Those are upfield guys. Those they shooting the gall They
Speaker 1: get penetrators. That's what they do. Ankins, Quentin Bohannah, those guys,
Speaker 1: Carlos Walkers, they sacrifice their game so that our linebackers
Speaker 1: can shed and run. That's that's just the name of
Speaker 1: the game. I go back to your town. Two dudes
Speaker 1: in the Hall of fame Jack him, Jack Lambert and
Speaker 1: stealing Bro How easy was it? Look it up front?
Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, I mean Bro White White else you're
Speaker 1: scraping all day long, free, free, free downhill just fun boy.
Speaker 1: I mean your daddy's Christmas cardle should be full from linebackers.
Speaker 1: Thank you, your nephew, I really your nephew, I mean
Speaker 1: your uncle's I mean just really. That's the thing where
Speaker 1: you talk about putting Harry Goosa and those guys there,
Speaker 1: Ray could run and get there, which you know smart
Speaker 1: by by their organizations to realize, heymy this is what
Speaker 1: you need to get. But man, you get a great
Speaker 1: tackle Derek Brooks fantastic. You can't warrant sapping and if
Speaker 1: the booker mcfarre so you you get it right like that, man,
Speaker 1: I mean with Hollywood and Henderson and man, when you
Speaker 1: got Randy White up, it's easy to make some blade.
Speaker 1: You're able to make plays. And when you don't have that,
Speaker 1: cats get up on you. And that's what happened. And
Speaker 1: that's what we saw saw happening to Jaylen Smith. Jaylen Smith,
Speaker 1: he overcame that dropped foot. We saw the best part
Speaker 1: of him when he came back from the drop foot,
Speaker 1: but he was limited dog when guys where he couldn't
Speaker 1: fight off those blocks and gods was coming down on
Speaker 1: him because of that drop foot. He couldn't change direction right.
Speaker 1: So when that misdirection it was going that way and
Speaker 1: had to cut back that way, and that guard was
Speaker 1: already on him. It was like, good night, we'll see
Speaker 1: you see this play man. You got us, you got us.
Speaker 1: So many people are talking about the Cowboys e to
Speaker 1: draft a corner, draft a corner because you know what's
Speaker 1: happened with Lewis and Brown. And I'm like, guys, if
Speaker 1: there's there's some beef up front, you may want to
Speaker 1: think about getting some beef up front because it just helps.
Speaker 1: I mean Robert Smith number fifty five on the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Uh uh, jim coming, Jimmy Johnson's early bad man. Man.
Speaker 1: When you have Russell Maryland, you have Tony Toilbert, you
Speaker 1: have uh Tony Casillus, you have chatted, You've got these
Speaker 1: guys up front. Man, allows your guys to make Ken
Speaker 1: Norton Jr. You know, allows your guys to go and
Speaker 1: make plays. And so in the first round, you know,
Speaker 1: if there's a big up, if there's a big en
Speaker 1: up there. They don't want to think about doing it
Speaker 1: because Warren sappas the greatest one, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: lines I've ever heard, the backdoor work without the front
Speaker 1: of just how much a great defensive line makes everyone's
Speaker 1: life easier. You think about the Doomsday defense, as you
Speaker 1: think about the Steel Kurt, and you think about the
Speaker 1: No Name defense. It was all about up front, Ye, Saxonville,
Speaker 1: we were all the front. Lais Campbell. That's all you
Speaker 1: gotta say, Lais Campbell, good Lord and ye. And then
Speaker 1: so you take someone like a Jalen Ramsey, you know,
Speaker 1: already a supreme corner and you got that up front.
Speaker 1: Now we are right, you're racing dudes. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about PF and I think some of
Speaker 1: the genius that they kind of add to the game.
Speaker 1: When you talk about how Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: working concert to one another, what is the percentage that
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald affects the play that gives Jalen rams To
Speaker 1: his opportunity for success. It's high out of you, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's what the Dallas Cowboys are going up
Speaker 1: against right now. I think teams right now really have
Speaker 1: just gone back to the tape and they found those
Speaker 1: things that really the Cowboys are limited. They found that
Speaker 1: chink in the armor, They found those weak spots in
Speaker 1: that defense, and they are attacking it. At the beginning,
Speaker 1: I think when we saw the Green Bay game, you
Speaker 1: were talking about guys on the outside making business decisions,
Speaker 1: you know, when they were going with that outside zone run,
Speaker 1: when that counter trait was coming out there, and the
Speaker 1: age I was trying, you know, and those and when
Speaker 1: you start seeing guys not well, yeah, they want to
Speaker 1: pin their ears back and come after the you know,
Speaker 1: get the sacks, but they don't want to take on that.
Speaker 1: They don't want to take on that run. One thing
Speaker 1: I would say about you, Barry when you played, which
Speaker 1: was a trip to me, and when I first met you,
Speaker 1: I swear to God, when I saw you, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, because I thought you were much bigger than
Speaker 1: you work, you know, because you played bigger one of
Speaker 1: the first one I've seen other old school guys do this.
Speaker 1: But a safety that would come up and take on
Speaker 1: a tackle off the gap, a bullet tackle, you know,
Speaker 1: and blow it, blow a man back out. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying they just don't make them like that no more. Dog,
Speaker 1: you don't see that kind of physicality in the game anymore.
Speaker 1: And so I think for the Dallas Cowboys, especially in
Speaker 1: this game, Philadelphia understands that there may be a tense,
Speaker 1: a twine of these guys just don't want it. They
Speaker 1: don't want to get ran that and have us come
Speaker 1: downhill on them. You look at the numbers for the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. They're one of the best running teams in
Speaker 1: the game because of how physical they are. And if
Speaker 1: you go back to the game that we lost against
Speaker 1: them in their first half, then when they were up
Speaker 1: twenty to zero at halftime, thought they beat us up?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they pumped them on the trenches. Yes, they
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Speaker 1: his struts and then his Toledo Rockets ended up winning
Speaker 1: the book or a Tobals twenty one to nineteen over Liberty.
Speaker 1: That's the game I picked because I do the picks
Speaker 1: in the morning news. I picked Toledo. And the reason
Speaker 1: I picked Toledo Liberty's coach left. Yeah, you got the
Speaker 1: ball smack regardless, man. You know, but you know when
Speaker 1: a ball game happened in him. Other coaches all out
Speaker 1: of tag, you know, it's like out of that and
Speaker 1: they get the job to the defensive coordinator. He over
Speaker 1: there like, what am this hold on? Guys? Hold value? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, this this whole thing is,
Speaker 1: this thing has changed. And then you got some guys like, well, coach,
Speaker 1: can I come with you to Auburn? You know what
Speaker 1: he sold? Minds or elsewhere? You know? He said no, ye,
Speaker 1: can't you go from Liberty? Hey y'all, hey guy, we appreciate. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I gotta get down here and see what I got. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't feel sorry for these coaches when
Speaker 1: when when players have to transfer, portalduces on them because
Speaker 1: oh it's a new day. It's a new day. You'll
Speaker 1: trust me. I'm hey man, I was a two school
Speaker 1: kid and I had to sit out for a whole
Speaker 1: year after after transferring. So I love the way this
Speaker 1: transfer portal is working, you know. And I love the
Speaker 1: fact that these kids are getting paid. To the quarterback
Speaker 1: paid the kid from North Carolina. I can't think it's
Speaker 1: Drake May May five five millions house on the table.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna got a play off four years,
Speaker 1: Like even when you read up every year, or is
Speaker 1: it five over four? He didn't take it. What the
Speaker 1: coach at Pittsburgh patent our Ducey went on the record
Speaker 1: head he knows there were two schools who offered Drake
Speaker 1: May five million dollars and and made didn't leave it.
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing you gotta understand about that. The
Speaker 1: Carolina quarterback, his brother played basketball there. His brothers Luke
Speaker 1: May hit a shot to beat Kentucky one year to
Speaker 1: make it to the final four and they ended up
Speaker 1: win the national championship. And his dad played played ball there.
Speaker 1: Dad was his dad was a football player. So it's
Speaker 1: in him one more time and they have a leugen
Speaker 1: I love right. And the next thing it tells you
Speaker 1: when you can walk away from five million, you got
Speaker 1: money out already. Yeah, your people's is doing good. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. And this is what talk about Mac Brown. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mac Brown did coach in Oklahoma. He found they found
Speaker 1: some fun. It wasn't five million, but that way walking
Speaker 1: around he walking around you walking around from Brown for Texas, right,
Speaker 1: Mac Brown for Texas? Mac Brown form who yes, but
Speaker 1: he former Oklahoma offensive courtney for Barry Switters. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: just program, Okay. It was always making he found the money,
Speaker 1: he found the bag. Of course he went to sleep
Speaker 1: at night. You know bag, You know right right, he
Speaker 1: didn't get five million, but he's going to get something.
Speaker 1: Drake names go to get something. I mean these schools
Speaker 1: now understanding. No, it's supposedly freshman quarterback. Like that lights
Speaker 1: it up. We we we know we need to take it.
Speaker 1: Max Duggan had had somebody told me that he got
Speaker 1: a raise. He's leaving TCU, but you know they know
Speaker 1: they all understand me. Even like when you play. I played,
Speaker 1: guys were getting paid, but you hated the quarterbacks anyway,
Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks always got preferential treatment if it got hit.
Speaker 1: The never got hidden practice. They never have through the
Speaker 1: same amount of work. You mean to tell me you
Speaker 1: double down on that with give I'm sitting there, I'm
Speaker 1: going to school. My mom was backing on my phone
Speaker 1: cut off, you know, and you getting paid five million
Speaker 1: dollars here hitting over. I'm out here like, oh who
Speaker 1: backs you touch the ground? You ain't gonna I used
Speaker 1: to hate them boys in college, but hell you mean
Speaker 1: it was a rough practice. You ain't even get touched.
Speaker 1: Had just throw a slants. Man play baseball. Guys should
Speaker 1: play base line, Matthew Angler, I should have picked up
Speaker 1: a bat. Yeah, played baseball, shait golf didn't do that.
Speaker 1: But those two man oh heady, yeah, Grandada told me
Speaker 1: a million times. So they called me a Keyshan show
Speaker 1: this morning to go on and talk about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and Eagles. And one of the things that I had
Speaker 1: brought up and spoke about wash Billy. No matter who
Speaker 1: the quarterback is, and I'm expecting garden Minstershire, they gonna
Speaker 1: run the ball. So this is the test of the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got you know, And and they now realize every
Speaker 1: week this is what's going to happen. You got the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they gonna running football next week and then the end
Speaker 1: of season watching they're gonna run the football. So they're
Speaker 1: going to have to buckle up, strap on in here
Speaker 1: and figure out how to stop the run. And and
Speaker 1: this is going into the playoffs whoever they face. Let's
Speaker 1: say they have to go place Tampa Bay. Right now,
Speaker 1: they're gonna run football. So so buckle this thing up here,
Speaker 1: figure it out. But you know, that's what I'm expecting
Speaker 1: to see Saturday night with Philadelphia there. Can you expect
Speaker 1: them to bring me a safety down or do run
Speaker 1: some big nickel or something like that, because I just
Speaker 1: if you go out there in the same type of
Speaker 1: skein y'all had against Jackson, but they they gonna run
Speaker 1: it up on you. They're gonna run the yards up
Speaker 1: on you in the box. So can y'all see maybe
Speaker 1: curse walking down there a little bit more, maybe running
Speaker 1: a big nickel where you got Bland on the outside
Speaker 1: mcquombo on the inside. You're running like a three safety
Speaker 1: scene because they're gonna run it up if they got
Speaker 1: that same skin going in the Philly You know, I
Speaker 1: think you have to mix all of that up, and
Speaker 1: I think all of those things that you just talked
Speaker 1: about is on the table. And also Dallas Goddard is
Speaker 1: back in healthy as well, So that's another part of
Speaker 1: this that makes that an interesting dynamic to the way
Speaker 1: that Philly's gonna attack you. And look, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you like this, I anticipate Jalen Hurst to play. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play. And the reason I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna play is also the way that he finished the
Speaker 1: Chicago game. It wasn't like he went out, he stayed in.
Speaker 1: He made multiple throws after that. I think Philly understands
Speaker 1: that this moment Philly has to have home field advantage.
Speaker 1: This is a win that they need. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: They came a food and the way that people are
Speaker 1: starting to well, you know you're resting players on man,
Speaker 1: that is that that's a loser mentality if you're talking
Speaker 1: about that at this point, Dog, and then you want
Speaker 1: that buy. You want to be able to get healthy.
Speaker 1: That's why teams that came up with the seventeen game
Speaker 1: season was like, look, we need two buys in this
Speaker 1: thing so you can get guys healthy. That's why it's
Speaker 1: when they took it away. They added another team into
Speaker 1: the playoffs and only one team gets to buy. That
Speaker 1: makes the man. That makes the stakes even greater. So
Speaker 1: I love what you're saying about the box safety. I
Speaker 1: think the number one thing has to be stopped to
Speaker 1: run eliminate the big play. Philadelphia has won games on
Speaker 1: the big play. They live, breathe, and die on the
Speaker 1: big play. And when it comes down to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that you know BC is that
Speaker 1: teams are going to eliminate the big play. The look,
Speaker 1: the air is thinner, the windows are smaller. So even
Speaker 1: with Jayalen hurts right now, with this hurt shoulder. That's
Speaker 1: what makes all of this, all of his limitations even
Speaker 1: more blaring, because dog, you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: live like that. You think, I don't think. I get
Speaker 1: they're patient enough to you know, do checktowns and take
Speaker 1: what the defense they nine. They don't think they'll pay,
Speaker 1: they not. And that's why when you come up against
Speaker 1: when it gets to the playoffs and you have those
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna be keying in on that. If
Speaker 1: when you come to the forty nine, it's all it's
Speaker 1: gonna go through the other defenses in the NFC, teams
Speaker 1: are gonna be keying in on that and limiting the
Speaker 1: big play. I'm telling you, if you if you look
Speaker 1: at how Philly's been living, they have been living on
Speaker 1: the big play. And you know that the limited the
Speaker 1: big play is not a given in the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: do we have the back end to be able to
Speaker 1: limit that big play? You just you just answered the
Speaker 1: question earlier. You set the front end. It's gotta you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta get that pass rush there, gotta come up,
Speaker 1: you gotta you got to read invigorate, it's gotta be there.
Speaker 1: There's no way that you give Jayalen Hurst time, and
Speaker 1: there's no where in hell you put Kelvin Joseph on
Speaker 1: A J. Brown. You don't want to see it. Matchups
Speaker 1: that match up. Now see eleven trot out there, come
Speaker 1: one'll check my fantasy lineup. Since you think Jayalen hurts,
Speaker 1: I think he's playing Henna play. I think it's gonna play.
Speaker 1: I do not. I do not see because I think
Speaker 1: Philly wants to embarrass Dallas. I think they want to, man,
Speaker 1: they want to put them down. Because this team right now,
Speaker 1: confidence wise, they shook up this. This is the second
Speaker 1: time that I've seen them since the Green Bay game.
Speaker 1: The Green Bay game was one time I was like, man,
Speaker 1: look at their faces right now. This is the last time.
Speaker 1: I mean, the confidence is shot right now. And that's
Speaker 1: why that's what I want to see this team rebound.
Speaker 1: You said yesterday, they haven't lost two games back to back.
Speaker 1: They have to respond right now. Mike McCarthy did say
Speaker 1: in the press conference, um, right after the game, they
Speaker 1: expected to respond appropriately in so many words, Okay, we
Speaker 1: know this was this was not what we wanted. We're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna come back here and get this thing right.
Speaker 1: Which the response after Green Bay was spectacular. That was
Speaker 1: a minutes olda right when they yeah, that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: So um and to me, the response will just be
Speaker 1: winning the game, you know all they who cares about
Speaker 1: if it's by a point or nine or whatever field goal,
Speaker 1: hell man, whatever, Just just winning for the football game.
Speaker 1: Win a football game against your team. And they still
Speaker 1: have some combination things to kind of figure out from
Speaker 1: their their secondary and just as they get ready in
Speaker 1: the offensive line. So there's there's things they gotta work of,
Speaker 1: I mean, biggest point. But at least he's not just in, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't throw we don't throw Kelvin out there and
Speaker 1: hope cross fingers. They're at least saying, hey man, that's
Speaker 1: not good enough and it's got to be addressed. You
Speaker 1: can't lie to your room. You can't lie to you guys,
Speaker 1: know so, so at least they're doing what they're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. You say, it's about competition, let's go. I
Speaker 1: did see some coming. I thought about this what you
Speaker 1: brought up yesterday, and I think this is the only
Speaker 1: that's the only thing they can do. Diggs has to travel.
Speaker 1: There's there's I don't see them playing it any other
Speaker 1: way said today, I said that today on the ESPN radio.
Speaker 1: It's based off our conversation. Yeah, on the players, so
Speaker 1: I said today, like I'm going to travel digs. The
Speaker 1: rest of them are too little digs in AJ brand,
Speaker 1: they're too little. There's there's no other way. No, there's
Speaker 1: no because as you line up, especially if you're in
Speaker 1: man and guy's traveling with a guy, then yeah, we
Speaker 1: know where what we know what you're in. But when
Speaker 1: you're mixing this thing up all across the board and
Speaker 1: they find that, oh oh yahs, o oh y oh
Speaker 1: is it mquama will you buy? Oh? I mean that's
Speaker 1: all that they're gonna be looking for is to match
Speaker 1: up Nightmare and again Dallas god A being back. You
Speaker 1: have to understand that's gonna be something that our linebackers
Speaker 1: haven't been the best. Anytime you find forty two by
Speaker 1: himself on the line, I mean obviously it's a matchup.
Speaker 1: You know min you you know he had gunslingers, he'll
Speaker 1: put that there. Meant you look for me. We saw
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and what what what they were doing with
Speaker 1: that in Ingram So there's no reason why you know,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're mint you or hurts you don't
Speaker 1: look okay, where's God or that? Let's just let's try
Speaker 1: to find a miss. You know, it's all about trying
Speaker 1: to find miss Matt where so um the expens to
Speaker 1: come up big. But despite all that, you know, we
Speaker 1: sit up here and we talk about we talk about
Speaker 1: it and it looks like gloom and doom. And that's
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys went. You know, we think Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: it'll be all right. Houston gona be AFC South O,
Speaker 1: the Classic, the cut, Classic class you went, you know
Speaker 1: you were two or three? Two out of three ain't bad?
Speaker 1: You know, meet low song three man we go, what
Speaker 1: will will McClay out here? You must be side. Rice
Speaker 1: picked up a quarterback in the transfer a portal, So yeah,
Speaker 1: Rice are has a quarterback. Daniels. He's still balancing around.
Speaker 1: This is fourteen. Yeah, he's been in he's been in
Speaker 1: Cowboy US for USC, then went to Georgia. Started three
Speaker 1: games on the team that won the national championship, but
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennet took it over. So then he left went
Speaker 1: to West Virginia. They were they were good this year.
Speaker 1: So now he's going to Rice. Man you better watch.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you better watch that Rice program. They have
Speaker 1: a kid. They have a kid from right here in Frisco.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good too. So I I just really would
Speaker 1: love to know where's the degree from you start, you know,
Speaker 1: you starting? I mean anybody who's who's transferred, you know
Speaker 1: what's transferred, University of University of Phoenix over there, just
Speaker 1: you know, university. Larry Fitzgerald's doing some endorsements for them
Speaker 1: back in the day. So so yeah, Barry Church, yes today,
Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, good stuff today. And once again, um
Speaker 1: our you know, our our our thoughts and prayers out
Speaker 1: to your your family and especially your your your your
Speaker 1: uncle uncle Joe Green as Franco Harris has passed away.
Speaker 1: And you know Cowboy Nation, Uh like I said that
Speaker 1: those of us who grew up watching those games, um
Speaker 1: it was special Cowboy stealers, man. There was no no better.
Speaker 1: Uh teams of the seventies and those two teams man.
Speaker 1: Um So, another part of of our childhood is leaving
Speaker 1: us here, especially this Christmas. And it was gonna celebrate
Speaker 1: the Immaculate Receptions fiftieth anniversary in Pittsburgh. So and retires
Speaker 1: Jersey which I thought was already retired. That's kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: but okay, uh, I got medium ash coming up the
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