1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. He is part of the 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic universe. Welcome back to another addition of the 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hanzas, and 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosa. Thought what up, boys can 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: crafted another drop straight from the pen? You could tell 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the ones that come from our listeners, which come from 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: us and then come from our producer who is just 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: all hyped up about Marvel products And what's kind of 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: NuRD tree was that? Guys? Guys, Come on, I'm just 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: trying to keep you guys in flow. What's happening in 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: the real world. It's not just all about the real 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: world Marvel trailer. Real world just dropped, okay, and I'm 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: trying to keep you guys in the know here, Okay, 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm helping you guys. You pend that money I did? 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: That was me. I've actually used it before, but I 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: thought I'll bring it back since it was time a dressing. Mark. 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Thank you, Control, Yeah, thank you for joining 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: us today. You run a Ferris Bueller type day off 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: yesterday and you already told us before we started spending 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: today that if we're not done in team minus forty 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: four minutes, you're walking out of the studio. So it 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: seems like we're heading in a certain direction with you 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: as a member of this group the show. Uh, you know, 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: it's in real time. It's about two something PM and 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: my shift ends at three, and I'll be leaving at three. 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Gret your thoughts about this with mid season reviews coming up, 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: employer reviews. Yeah, no, you don't want to be You 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: don't want an employee that's counting the hours, that's a 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: clock puncher or what do they call that. I like 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: to see it that I'm giving you a clear, defined 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: boundary about what my availability is. One of our Twitter followers, 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: by the way, yesterday said that they'll no longer listen 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: to the show because they're tired of all the bickering. 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: They think we don't get along with you. Uh well, 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: that seems to be a big loss on our part. 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how we're going to move forward without 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: that deeply serious person. Speaking of bickering. We need to 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: get your opinion on the last at least the last 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: five years of the show. Friends. You frame it, what 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: a silly way to frame it? Yeah, It wasn't the 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: last five years of Friends. It was Friends in general 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: as an empty in the nineties. I thought Friends is 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: It was a very solid sitcom for what it was 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: trying to be, from beginning to end. What's the that's 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: a what is this that? Yeah, I've gotten a lot 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: of My Twitter feed was blowing up this morning with 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: all Friends heat. West was straight threatening to block people 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: over let the record show. I never did block anybody 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: over Friends, but I really did really want to block 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: the defeat ones. What is that? You know? Like all 52 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: the male characters on Friends were very defeat They were 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: dominated by the women on the show. Oh that see, 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: this is what we were talking about in the cafeteria 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: West as a whole theory. We don't even have time 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: to get into it. Just yeah, I just know we 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: all know at this point where West stands on Friends, 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: one of the definitive sitcoms of the We have a 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: a big, big, big preview show. It is week eight, gentlemen, 60 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: were where it was moving on. We're almost halfway through 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: the season mark. I see the Glinton You're ay, you 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: already see the finish line. It is not even close 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: to being halfway when you factor in the playoffs. It's 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: like around week twelve is when we're at the midpoint. 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: What if you factored in the preseason, Well, the preseason 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: doesn't count. That's the worst that's the worst month of 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: the year. Well, I don't know, that's in the past. There. Yeah, 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: we move forward and we have a full slate of games. 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I guess what we should do now is get into 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: the games. Let's talk some football, because, as we said, 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: we're against the clock. Here Sessler, who's already got his 72 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: time card in his hand. Uh so we'll start. But 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: before we get to the games, we need to wrap 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: up the Thursday night game, of course, the Thursday night 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: game that we were very excited about previewing, and Wednesday's show, 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: the San Diego Charters against the Denver Broncos. Will throw 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: it to the late guys tonight to recap the game. 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan, and welcome to Around the NFL Podcast. 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: After Arc Here in a dim studio sixties six, just 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: watched the Denver Broncos dispatch our team of a t 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: L San Diego Chargers thirty five one. But it was 82 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: a fun game. Chris Westling, is this Broncos team better 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: than they were? A year ago. Yes, and I think 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: significantly better because they could have the best defense in 85 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Wow, it's so crazy. I mean, did you 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: pick the wrong year? Last year? You were kind of 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: you were on the Broncos train early on, you said 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the greatest offense ever. You're kind 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: of that was your team. You got a sign to 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: him each week. I think you picked the wrong year 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: because this team is a lot more fun than the 92 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: year ago. I couldn't agree more. I really liked their 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: offense last year, and since the beginning of this year, 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I really liked their defense. Von Miller he's in the 95 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: conversation with J. J. Watt now for Defensive Player of 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: the Year because I just put him in there. You're 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: not allowed to do that on your own. Everyone else 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: has to No, Actually, it has to go through me. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't agree. You can't really take away what J. J. Watson, 100 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: But you're right. If it wasn't for what Miller's next 101 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: in each game he seems to dominate a little more. Yeah, 102 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: he's leading the NFL and sacks and he's the thing 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: about Von Miller that most of the country just isn't 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: on board with. Yet He's one. He might be the 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: best run stopping linebacker in the NFL. It's not just 106 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: the pass rushing. Two tackles for loss in the run 107 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: game tonight, three quarterback hits and the sack. And you 108 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: know our guy DJ Daniel Jeremiah Jeremiah does the great 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast with t D. See without Dan here, 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: we'll just get it plugs. There'll be no negative talk 111 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: about a t D is loving it right now. Uh. 112 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: He made some plays today against d J Fluker von Miller. 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: That is that just made Flucker look like like an 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: also ran. And that's a pretty good player, d J Flucker. Well, 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jeremiah's point was, with DeMarcus Ware on 116 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: one side handling left tackles, von Miller is just putting 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: clown suits on right tackles. Right. I forgot his point 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: because I went off on my own stupid tangent. But 119 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: this defense made life so hard on Philip Rivers tonight. 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: I think the Charger's offense especially gave a pretty good effort, 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: at least the passing game. I think Rivers had to 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: play pretty well to average six yards per attempt because 123 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: he was under durest the whole game. He got hit 124 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: six times, two sacks. The Denver defensive line absolutely dominated 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: the Chargers in the run game, so every time it 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: was third down, it was third and long, and yet 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers kept moving the ball. It took 128 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: an a game or you know, a minus B plus 129 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: game from one of the best players in the league, 130 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: just the kind of keep up and keep it somewhat 131 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: interesting against Denver. I think you have to give Brandon 132 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Oliver a pass because he had absolutely no holes to 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: run through twelve carries for thirteen yards until a meaningless 134 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: even when he caught the ball. They had a spy 135 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: on him on defense, and there was always a defender 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: within an inch of him as soon as he caught it. 137 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: I think if there's one weakness, Rivers played great. If 138 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: there's one weakness that thinking dunk offense isn't set up 139 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: to come back against a quality team like the Broncos. Yeah, 140 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: that's true. They just needed to make one play. You know. 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I put something up on Twitter. It took the Chargers 142 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: longer for their two first two touchdown drives then it 143 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: did for the Broncos first four touchdown drives combined by 144 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. So that it takes a lot 145 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: for them to move the ball down the field. But 146 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, if they got a couple of breaks here 147 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: or there. You know, Eric Weddle had an interception of 148 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: Manning in the red zone that put him on your 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl Bellot, just just do it. If you're listening, 150 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: just put Eric. He's been incredible and it was overturned 151 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: by a bogus penalty. If that doesn't go against the Chargers, 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: they're still in the game at that point, can maybe 153 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: make it a one score game. Wet Will also forced 154 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: a fumble that the Chargers didn't recover. West Welker, who's 155 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: been silent as a receiver, made a nice play to 156 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: recover the ball. So some breaks went against them there 157 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: without their cornerbacks. But those are excuses and they're now 158 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: a b in a position where it's too late to 159 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: catch up to the Broncos. They have two division losses there, 160 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: two games back in the division, and I look at 161 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: the Broncos and I'm thinking, is this team even gonna 162 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: lose three games? The hardest part of their schedules over 163 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: they look at the teams they've faced so far, all 164 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. They've they've taken them 165 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: out Arizona, San Francisco, San Diego, Seattle, Indianapolis. I mean 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: those are five of the teams that are in everyone's 167 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: top ten of the Power rankings, and Denver's just mowed 168 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: through them. We haven't even talked about their offense, right, Yeah, Well, 169 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: Peyton Man, he's Emmanuel Sanders has a career game. He 170 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: was spectacular. H Ronnie Hillman to me, monte Ball, forget 171 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: about getting your job back, Ronnie Hillman. Ronnie Hillman looks fantastic. 172 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: You were. I think at one point you just you 173 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: couldn't help yourself. You're like, man, look at the speed 174 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: on that guy. He is fast. I know t D. 175 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: I think TD likes Ronnie Hillman. I do. He's on 176 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: my fantasy team with just like West was saying, he 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: just he just hits the whole harder. He's a lot 178 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: he does. And he had a thirty three yard touchdown 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: called back on penalty, and he stepped out of bounds 180 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: by about a centimeter on another one that could have 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: been a touchdown. He could have had in seventy five 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: yards and two scores tonight. It's funny sometimes you know, 183 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: a script gets written on a player right away because 184 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: of your first impression, and all anyone thinks of his 185 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Ronnie Hillman as some bust who was fumbling early in 186 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: his career and wasn't ready. Well, he's twenty one years 187 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: old at the time. He's only twenty three, and he's 188 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: younger than right. He's twenty three in his third season. 189 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: And you know what, sometimes players improved. Now they've got 190 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a one two punch. I don't know. I think Ball 191 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: might get get the starting job back. Maybe not. I 192 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: didn't want split carries. But Hillman shown that he's a 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: huge factor. Emmanuel Sanders might be making that Pro Bowl. 194 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean he's starting to pile up some big games. 195 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: To Barrious Thomas gets a hundred yards every week. He's 196 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: now leading the league in receiving yards. You can survive 197 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: if you're the Broncos. A game where Julius Thomas and 198 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: Welker doesn't do anything. Steelers fans have to be scratching 199 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: their heads and ask him, where the heck was this 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: guy in Pittsburgh. He was dropping and passes, running the 201 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: wrong routes, getting injured, and all of a sudden, now 202 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: he's one of the most fundamentally sound playmakers in the NFL. Well, 203 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: you said, doesn't have something to do with pet you Manning, 204 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: because heard a lot of how Pat you Manny, how 205 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: the coaches is why we've seen this DJ on the 206 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: moon Sis podcast, you spoke about how we spent sounds 207 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: of the Wife series after practice and you got to 208 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: give profits to Peyton. Absolutely stole my point. TD. Not cool, YEA, 209 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: because one of the things when I look back, we 210 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: watched Emmanuel Sanders all the snaps last year over the offseason. 211 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: We had some disagreements and one of the big things 212 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: with him and there were there was a lot of 213 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: miscommunication between him and Ben where they weren't on the 214 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: same page. But you don't see that with him in Peyton. 215 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: So what's the difference here? Peyton makes him get on 216 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: the same thing. I think he runs a lot more 217 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: vertical routes now in Denver two whereas he was in 218 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: the slot a lot in Pittsburgh. They're so good it's scary. 219 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they're the best team in the NFL. And 220 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I think this is the best defense Peyton Manning has 221 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: ever had. We went back, I went back and looked 222 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: there was a really good statistical two thousand seven co 223 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: team that was actually ranked number one in points allowed, 224 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: number three in yards allowed. You didn't remember them as 225 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: a dominant defense. They went thirteen and three. They actually 226 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: didn't even get out of the first round of the playoffs. 227 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: They lost to these Chargers and Philip Rivers. I think 228 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: this defense seems like the year Bob Sanders was Defensive 229 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. They have freny and mathis. Yeah, 230 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: it was the year the Patriots went undefeated. The Colts, 231 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: I like didn't even get to them. But I don't know. 232 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you throw in Brandon Marshall has been a 233 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: revelation at linebacker, Chris Harris a keep deliver, both playing 234 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: at a Pro Bowl level. Bradley Roby's a solid player 235 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: where he more made some place tonight. I mean they 236 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: have the Yeah, they're loaded with town and they're fast 237 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: on defense. They are a different team than the one 238 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: that was embarrassed in New Jersey. When was that just 239 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: uh what eight months ago now? And and I don't 240 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: know the way things are looking at it just seems 241 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: like the road through the a f C. I know 242 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: it's early, but it just is looking more and more 243 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: like the road through the a f C. Is gonna, 244 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, go through Denver. Think back to all those 245 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: names you just mentioned on defense. How many of them 246 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: were there in the Super Bowl? Practically not of them 247 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: on defense. Yeah, it's incredible. All Right, that's enough. Broncos 248 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: love makes me sick for the night. Now, Actually, I'm 249 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm liking this team. This is this is 250 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: the most likable Broncos team since Jake Plumber was in 251 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the mix. Alright, Alright, let's send it back to the guys. Alright, 252 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: that was good work there by the B team. As 253 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: we know, Cessler said, any team that he's not on 254 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: as the B team, good job, B team. That's not 255 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: accurate how I phrased that, but that was more of 256 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: a B team combination. All right. So let's move to 257 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Sunday and we have a nice slate of games, a 258 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: tough slated games of you, if you pick games every week, 259 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of very uh games that could go 260 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: either way. It's not one of those weeks where you 261 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: think you know what's gonna happen and then you you're 262 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: proven wrong. It's actually weak where you go in not 263 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: sure what's gonna happen. So let's start with three games, 264 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: as we always do every week, that jump out to us, 265 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and we'll start with the Packers and the Saints. The 266 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers playing perhaps better than any team in 267 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: the league right now. They're just rolling over the opposition. 268 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: And then on the other side you have the Saints, 269 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: who are two and four and are welcoming the Packers 270 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: into their building. In past years, maybe we would say, 271 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: all right, now, the Saints are gonna get healthy, they're 272 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: in their building, they're gonna take care of business. But 273 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: we don't know what to make of the Saints right now, 274 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: even in their own building. How do we see this game? 275 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: I wallfoed on this one. I originally picked the Saints 276 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: because they play so much better at home, and I 277 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: think they're a little bit better than their record. And 278 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: then I thought about it and decided they're not better 279 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: than the record, and they haven't played well at home 280 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: this year, and they're Jimmy Graham was a non factor, 281 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Pierre Thomas is injured. I just feel like the Packers 282 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: are so much better right now that I can't pick 283 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: against him, and they're actually Green Bay's defense is a 284 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: big factor here. I mean, I know it's tough to 285 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: hold Drew Brees and company down at home, but they 286 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: are second in the NFL with four team takeaways and 287 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: no team is holding quarterbacks to a lower past A rating. 288 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: That's not something we often say about the Packers. We 289 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: we've talked about how good that secondary is, and it's deep, 290 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: and they're starting to get some production. Clay Matthews had 291 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: his best game of the season, and it's been a 292 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: very disappointing year for Clay Matthews until last week. Nick 293 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: Perry's playing well and they've been kind of looking for 294 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: someone else to emerge from that front seven. But I 295 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: still took the Saints getting the hero pick on it 296 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. I'm gonna get it right because well, 297 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: first of all, it's not a crazy pick. They haven't 298 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: lost with Sean Payton as the coach for nineteen games. 299 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I watched them last week in Detroit and I thought 300 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: they were really turning things around. The defense played much better, 301 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: the offense played well, did much better against the Lions defense, 302 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: for instance, than Green bathed earlier. There, did better than 303 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: anyone's done, and I thought that was a step in 304 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the right direction. And they gagged at the end. But 305 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: this time Sunday night, the home crowd, I think they 306 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: get it done. Here's here's the person I'm looking forward 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: to seeing this game, Drew Brees. We talked West. You 308 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: know how I love my trustee week, my research notes, 309 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: the great people in NFL media. A lot of work 310 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: goes into this, pages and pages of info. Drew Brees 311 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: ten consecutive, ten consecutive in completions last week. That's something 312 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: he hadn't done ever in his career. The previous high 313 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: was uh at seven straight in completions in two thousand twelve. 314 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is not Drew Brees right now? And how 315 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: how do we factor in? How do the Saints get 316 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: back on track if he's not playing at the levels 317 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: were used to. I still think something's wrong with him. 318 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: I thought last year he was the most composed quarterback 319 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Under pressure, was great in the pocket, 320 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: escaped pressure like it was so nonchalantly, like it was nothing. 321 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: And this year, according to Mike Triplet of ESPN, he 322 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: has the worst quarterback rating in the NFL when he's 323 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: under pressure or or getting hit. It's just something's not 324 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: clicking with him. Well, first of all, that there he's 325 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: getting more pressure the offensive line is not playing. Jimmy 326 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: Graham not being healthy is a huge factor. Brandon Cooks, 327 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't know he can scheme plays for him, but 328 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's getting open Cols Than's a 329 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: year older. Breeze has always been a risky quarterback. People 330 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: forget a couple of years ago. He led the league 331 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: in interceptions in two thousand two interceptions. He's gonna keep 332 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: throwing and that's why I got in trouble last week 333 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: with that late interception. He was trying to make a play, 334 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: and this year I don't think the people around him 335 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: are nearly is good. I know we hate talking about 336 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: must win games, but I'm sorry, if you're New Orleans, 337 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: you have if you really realistically want to talk about 338 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I understand they're in a bad division. 339 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: Not just sneaking into the playoffs, but making a statement 340 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: you've got to take care of business here at home. 341 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: Two and five is pretty brutal. I felt like their 342 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: home aura was punctured last time they were home, which 343 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: it took a crazy comeback to beat the Bucks. I mean, 344 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: of all team, the Bucks, and this could be the 345 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: one that kind of all, right, enough of this Sunday 346 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Night Football. Every time they're on Sunday Night Football at home, 347 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: they win by thirty. This would seem to be the 348 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: week that would end. We turn this into a must 349 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: win game, and yet the Panthers play the Seahawks this week. 350 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Panthers could be three four and one. Even if this 351 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: Saints go to and five, they're fine. I'm looking more 352 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: because we called in the Super Bowl. I actually think 353 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: they would be. The idea has to start playing well 354 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: and start winning games. They haven't really done anything. A 355 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: step last week, but not really. If you fall to 356 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: two and five, yes, in this division, you're not dead. 357 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: But if you look at their schedule their next five weeks, 358 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: there is not a gimme in the group. So they 359 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: cannot fall too far behind because then they're their margin 360 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: of very gets smaller and smaller, and all of a sudden, 361 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: you hit the seven loss and we know they're not 362 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: a team that's gonna win games in the playoffs on 363 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: the road or any games on the road. At this point, 364 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: they're not for real. Right moving forward, the Baltimore Ravens 365 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a f C North showdown. They took over first place 366 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: last week, moved to five and two and they're beating 367 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: teams soundly, and now they go to Cincinnati. The Bengals 368 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: haven't won in about a month. They started out uh 369 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: three and oh then they had the bye week, they 370 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: lost a tie, another loss, So the Bengals have lost 371 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: their way a little bit. They're still without Adrian Green. 372 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be back this week, isn't. We're not 373 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: expected to it. We know for until Sunday, So no A. J. Green, 374 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: and we know what that means for Andy Dalton. However, 375 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: they are at home. We've talked about it before. They're 376 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: very good home team. Will that be enough to hold 377 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: off the Ravens, who suddenly looked like a real a 378 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: f C contender a couple of weeks ago. I thought 379 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: I picked him to beat the Panthers because they were 380 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: so good at home over the last you know, fifteen months, 381 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: and they tied the Panthers, who are a very mediocre team. 382 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: To me, the Bravens are just so much better than 383 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: the Mangos right now. And even like we we think, 384 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: the Bengals secondary held a lot of quarterbacks to the 385 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: worst game of the year, and they've been torched the 386 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: last few games. This was in Week one when they 387 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: played each other. The one game from Baltimore where their 388 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: offense did not look the way we thought it would. 389 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: He threw what forty it was no. Sixty sixty two passes, 390 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: which was the debacle from last year's opener against the Broncos. 391 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: They have completely followed the skirt the script that we 392 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: thought they would sense with Gary Kubiak's offense, Like, really, 393 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: this is an interesting division, but if they if they 394 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: take care of this one, this is the team that 395 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: suddenly is separated itself from the rest of a very 396 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: schizophrenic pack in the a f C North. And yet 397 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: you took the Bengals. I mean when I looked at 398 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: the picks, I was just hoping some suckers would take 399 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals. MA take It's It's fantastic. The Ravens are 400 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: such a better team right now. I think they're one 401 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: of the best three or four teams in the entire NFL. 402 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: And the Bengals, if they don't have a great defense, 403 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: I don't think they have much of anything, and they 404 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: haven't the last few weeks. Couldn't happen to a nicer organization, 405 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: But I will say that weird has happened. Yes, the Ravens. 406 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: It's so weird week to week that I have no 407 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: problem taking the Bengals. I'll tell you why. I don't 408 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: know problems taking the Bengals. You have. We know the 409 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: Bengals are great in the regular season at home, they are. 410 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: They were great Green in the lineup. I'm just going 411 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: over it's a new season. Although last week we were 412 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: saying they were fine without A. J. Green. Let's calm down. 413 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I didn't take them last week either. You were the 414 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: only one that picked everybody point. They are not, nor 415 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: have they ever been fine without Greg. Speak with respect 416 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: to the hero king of the group. Now you got 417 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: that one wrong. Six hero picks six out of eleven. 418 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: Uh So deal with that reality. Ten oh and one. 419 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: The Bengals are at home since last year, No A J. Green, 420 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: but they are a very good home team and one 421 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: since last week. And wow, you got to get that right. 422 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: I'm just taking the sample size. You got to get 423 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: that right. If you're gonna drop that hammer, you gotta 424 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: get right. They tied two weeks ago. That's that's not 425 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: a winning rod. Let's move forward from that. Well, they 426 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: also what are they rely on right now? They were 427 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: a team that you talked about the defense and the 428 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: offensive line. Andre Smith, who Chris Collins was talking about 429 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: as the best right tack on the league, has gotten 430 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: thrown around like worked worked. I mean he got thrown around. 431 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, I swear did not really have that bad 432 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: of a game. It was just that the entire offense 433 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: around him was so wildly dominated that no quarterback, you know, 434 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: save maybe a top five guy, was gonna do anything. 435 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: That week. They had twenty one yards in the first 436 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: twenty four plays something like that, And really it wasn't Dalton. 437 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: It was everybody out and one thing about are they 438 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: okay without Green? They were starting to learn that. Scoring 439 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: thirty seven points, which is what they did against Caroline 440 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: without Green the week before, is what every team is 441 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: doing against Carolina's defense. Right now, we'll see And even 442 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: though you know you picked the Bengals by the way, right, 443 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: yeah said, I'm fine with that, alright, I'm rolling with 444 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: the hands is on this. Wee just wait until Sunday night. 445 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: Don't in the words the guy in the purple and 446 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: the guy that got very dressed up for the podcast 447 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: will be eating the words, alright. Moving forward, the Philadelphia 448 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: Eagles head to Arizona to play the Cardinals. Got another 449 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: good home team, the Cardinals, but this is a matchup 450 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: where the Cardinals maybe haven't been that impressive overall and 451 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: uh and getting out to a nice start the season. 452 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: The Eagles, on the other hand, are coming off there 453 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: by I believe right five and one, Uh, this is 454 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: a very competitive game. So to five and one teams? 455 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? I feel like, what's so funny? No, 456 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: this is very well said, good intro to the game. 457 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: Let's proceed. I feel like I've picked each of these 458 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: two teams wrong every single week of the year, and 459 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I probably will pick it wrong again this year. This 460 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: week I picked the Cardinals because they're so good at home, 461 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: but I'm not convinced they're better than the Eagles. No. 462 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles we don't know if their offensive 463 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: line is going to be all the way back for 464 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: this game, but they did have some guys back at 465 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: practice this week, Jason Kelsey and Evan Mathis, and I 466 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: think that performance against New York before they went to 467 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: their by was enough to convince me that they're kind 468 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: of turning the corner. I I like the Cardinals, but 469 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: I think they're kind of a fraudulent five and one team, 470 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: and the Eagles are a legitimate content about fraudulent. I mean, 471 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: I I don't to be honest, I have no virtual 472 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: memory of who I picked in this game, but I 473 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: hope I picked Arizona because they've earned my trust at home. 474 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: How are the Eagles not a fraudulent five? They were? 475 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: And that's why I haven't been able to thank you 476 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: for asking Greg about that. Now you're right, uh, And 477 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: you don't believe in their quarterback. I don't they Cardinals 478 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: have a better quarterback in this game. People saying that 479 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer's arm strength is diminished after the shoulders, I 480 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: don't see it. He looked and he looks fine. He 481 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: looked better this week, the week before and his first 482 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: game back, it was but even then completing some passes 483 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: deep out yards down the field that that's what you 484 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: need your quarterback to do. So I don't think his 485 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: arms was a problem the week before. I don't know. 486 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't trust this defense, and I think the Cardinals 487 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: defense and the Cardinals eventually all the lack of talent 488 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: that they have right now and what they've lost has 489 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: to show up. That's what I say every week, and 490 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I get burned. I'm not sure I really trust Philadelphia's 491 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: defense either though. I mean this is this is a 492 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: hard one to pick for the fact that there isn't 493 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: that dominant group against total weakness. I think it's gonna 494 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: go right down to the end. West, you took the Cardinals. 495 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Why do you think they would coin flip hashtag analysis? 496 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: Just just because their home and they play so much 497 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: better at home than they do on the road. My 498 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: favorite part of the week is when Mark learns, what 499 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: who did you think you picked? I think I picked 500 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Arizona and switched it to Philly. It looks like you 501 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: might have got this right. Eagles are your pick, patra 502 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: Cessler and Greg, I'll picked the Eagles, West and I 503 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: took the Cardinals. So another split right there? Not feeling 504 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: good about that one. This one could be interesting, all right, 505 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: So let's move on to the part of the Thursday 506 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: show where we we talk about you know, we all 507 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: make our picks, and sometimes one of us is on 508 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: an island, an island all alone. They pick a team 509 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: they believe in him. They're the only one. We call 510 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: this segment Defend your Hero, Defend your Hero and this 511 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: is really it's going to be an exciting defend your hero. 512 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler back in the saddles to two killer hero picks. 513 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to but why don't we start first 514 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: with Kevin Patra, who is obviously not with us, but 515 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Chris Westling step in two Patrick's shoe 516 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: is Uh. Patrick probably at a gym somewhere getting yoked. 517 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: That's what he does and working out his aggression that 518 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: that's one of the things he does. Yeah, one of 519 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: the things, one of the many things. But anyway, so 520 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the New York Jets have lost every game they've played 521 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: since Week one. Uh. They just acquired Percy Harvin, who's 522 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix at least on special teams 523 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit on offense. Uh. They are 524 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: now hosting the Buffalo Bills, who are four and three, 525 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: a surprise team. They're winning. They're winning, uh, perhaps lucky, 526 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: but they're winning. Kevin Patra took the team that's winning, 527 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: lucky over the team that's sliding, and he was the 528 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: only one to take the Bills. So I ask you, 529 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, the Mailman defense Patrick's hero. Well, this is easy. 530 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Every week. The Bills have the more consistent quarterback, they 531 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: have the best offensive weapon in the game, and Sammy 532 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Watkins they have. The Jets are supposed to have a 533 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: better defensive line, but they don't. The Bills do. To me, 534 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: the Bills have a stronger team by the way, Greg, 535 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: you did. And this isn't really your fault, but because 536 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people react the same 537 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: way when when West said that they have the more 538 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: consistent quarterback play, you went oof. But it's a painful 539 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: world you're living in when Kyle what Kyle Lorton, as 540 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: much as we all have our fun with him, is 541 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: doing a job. He's not playing base fine, but it's 542 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: a bad sign for your organization when a guy signed 543 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: out of retirement a month ago is more consistent than 544 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: your future quarterback. Well but once, I mean, they're throwing 545 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: ninety more yards per game with Orton and he's they're 546 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: playing a defense that's given up more points six games 547 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: in a row. I don't know why I checked the Jets. Well, 548 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: they almost just beat the Patriots in New England. They're 549 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: they're not playing They're not a good team. You know. 550 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: I've been pounding the table with that all year long, 551 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: but they're not quite this bad. I don't think they're 552 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: really a one in six team, and I think they 553 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: play the Bills well at home, and I just see 554 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: this being a game. I feel very confident, so confident 555 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: in fact, that it is my dirt a cell, which 556 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: is an amazing, amazing battery, very strong battery company. The 557 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: life of that battery is outrageous. I picked this is 558 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: my lock of the week. I think the Jets will 559 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: get back into the wind column over the Bills at home. 560 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: I feel very confident about it, and I and I 561 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: have a sessler that we will see a impact Percy 562 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: Harvin special teams play. M Can I take off my 563 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: patrack hattan put my own hat back. I think the 564 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: Jets will win despite what I just forget everything I 565 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: just said two minutes ago. The Jets will win, and 566 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: I I mean, look look at their offense. They go 567 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: from David Nelson and T. J. Graham at wide receiver 568 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: to Eric Decker and Percy Harvy. And let's not make 569 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Orton into uh, you know, Johnny Unitus or anything. 570 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: They had ten points against the Vikings in about twelve drives, 571 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: and one of those was a short field where they 572 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: only had to make one play, so they essentially their 573 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: first ten drives against the Vikings at home last week 574 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: amounted to three point It's in a short field touchdown. 575 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: It's not like the Bill's offense to me, has been great. 576 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: It's if they don't have a running game. They're injured 577 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: at running back. Even when they had Spiller and Jackson, 578 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: they weren't really running the ball very well. There's been 579 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: a lot of debate in the fantasy football community about 580 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Dixon versus Bryce Brown. You don't trade a mid 581 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: round draft pick for Bryce Brown and then have both 582 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: starting running backs go out and not even play him. 583 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly why they traded for him, 584 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: because they knew Spiller was a free agent and they 585 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: wanted to see if if Brown could become that role 586 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen. To me, it's a no brainer. 587 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: Bryce Brown should get more of the work over the 588 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: next month. This is one of those hero picks that 589 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: annoys me though, you know, I'd like to just change 590 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: my pick to the Bills, just despite well Well and 591 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Greg we had we had an early I M conversation 592 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: and we almost did exactly that, and we didn't. And 593 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Greg, you and I were both 594 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: on the same page twenty four hours ago. I thought 595 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: that this seems to be shaping up with That's why 596 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I took the Jets. I wasn't waffling on it or anything. 597 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: I just I just don't like it when a four 598 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and three team has a hero pick against the one 599 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: in six team. That's fair. That's a very fair point. 600 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: All right, all right, now let's get it too sessless picks. 601 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: We'll start with the one that is a little less controversial. 602 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: What Mark did. He took two teams and this will 603 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: be a spoiler for the second game that are one 604 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: in twelve combined on the season. But he's got a 605 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: both win in this week. And we'll start with the 606 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, who coming off a big win or there's 607 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: some connective tissue here actually over the Cleveland Browns last week. 608 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna beat the Miami Dolphins, Mark says, who 609 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: have played very well. Actually since Ryan Tannehill has kind 610 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: of put his game back together after Joe Philman's genius 611 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: motivational ploy to not name him starter ahead of the 612 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: London game. Mark, you think the Jaguars will win two 613 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: straight after losing their first six. You think the Dolphins 614 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: will once again stub their toe, Please defend your hero. 615 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Couple reasons for this thinking. Number one, not everything is logical, 616 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: so let's start right there. And I'm not I'm not 617 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna eight every mathematical turn to this thing. But well, 618 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: because it's that's a hero, sons, just you're you just 619 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: get a feeling, right but rewatching the Jacksonville Browns game 620 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: the godfather of feelings. It well, then often they're incorrect 621 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: and that could be happening led you to a first 622 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: place right now? So far lead in the pack out 623 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville's defense. I saw another game behind by the way, 624 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: who he says he's going to overtake me, But now 625 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: eight games I liked Dan. Now he told me he 626 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: now no longer cares if he wins the competition. He 627 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: just wants to bury first place person. Now, all right, well, 628 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: you got to care about this Jacksonville game because this 629 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: is your chance to back in the first place. Yeah, 630 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: I care. Nice trying to get back to the discussion here, 631 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: so uh, I mean for me, Jacksonville's defense against the 632 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: run has done a very nice job. Three of the 633 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: last four weeks surprisingly good, and their secondary, especially their safeties, 634 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: did an excellent job against Cleveland, shutting down their past 635 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: in game last week. Miami point to is one of 636 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: the more inconsistent teams in the league, and you'll go 637 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: do what they did last week, and because of that, 638 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: will go pick him to win a second one. I 639 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: don't think so. Jackson is going to take this something 640 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: interesting because your boy, Bill Laser his clearly has made 641 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: some strides. He were Tannehill coming together. Here is what 642 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: he's done. And I wrote a post about this today 643 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: on around the NFL. They they've cut down and downfield 644 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: passing because Tannehill can't do it. They've shrunk the field 645 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: and the results are there. He has Tannehill in his 646 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: past three games is completed sevent his passes for eight yards, 647 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: six touchdowns, three picks. He has three straight games. They're 648 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: even running some read option. He has thirty five yards 649 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: or more in the last three games. The guys moving 650 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: the ball, they know how to use them potentially Now 651 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: the Laser he was, your boy, looks like he's making 652 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: some real progress. Not this weekend, I don't I don't 653 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: even think it's the short field as much as they're 654 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: giving him quick read and he doesn't have to read 655 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: the field as much that I think that's what the princess. 656 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: And when when he does have to read the field, 657 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of time to do. So. I 658 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: mean that touchdown to Mike Wallace last week. He had 659 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: about ten seconds back there and he goes from left 660 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: to right and he goes to about his third or 661 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: fourth option was Wallace for the touchdown. One of the 662 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: turnarounds of the season no one wants to talk about 663 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: because it's not exactly like a fun, happy go lucky story. 664 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Is the Miami offensive line completely completely rebuilt from the 665 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: embarrassment of last year, and they're playing really well run 666 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: blocking and past blocking that this weekend we shall see. 667 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: So that is the first year old pick. By the way, 668 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: when I was talking to West about the standings, the 669 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: look in his eye is the same look when someone 670 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: challenges him in the cornhole ranks, and he has that 671 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: look of fire and desire. I could see it vanquishment. 672 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: The difference is he always wins at cornhole and it's 673 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: a lot of weeks, a lot of a lot of 674 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: take my chance. At this point, I'd be lying. If 675 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: I said I felt more confident right now about these 676 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: games and I do it about feeding anyone in l 677 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: A and corn what a player, I would honestly say, 678 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: not to get to sidetrack, but West. If I had 679 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: to pick one person in the entire Los Angeles County 680 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: to play cornhole and be victorious, it would be Chris Wesling. 681 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: He's in this room right now, so autographs after the show. 682 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't think cornholes really hit l A yet. West 683 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: is better at cornhole than anyone I know is better 684 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: at anything, all right now except Philadelia ping punk. All right, 685 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: so we moved to now the second hero game. Mark 686 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: obviously distressed after the Browns loss last week to the Jaguars. 687 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: As we just talked about now, Mark believes that the 688 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: Browns will become the first team in the history of 689 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. This is stat according to Drew Christiansen of 690 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: NFL Media's research team, the first team in the history 691 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL to lose back to back two winless 692 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: teams who had no wins after week seven or weeks 693 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: seven or later. You think the Browns will lose at 694 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: home to the Raiders, who stink God and and I 695 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: said downstairs. I was just I was a little disappointed 696 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: cause I feel like this is not the Mark that 697 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: I know, that I've known for so long, that is 698 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: loyal to his team, but it's also smart. He picks 699 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: against the Browns sometimes, but this is not the time 700 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: to pick against the Browns. So the better team and 701 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: they're in their own building. Mark, I don't know how 702 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna do this well. I mean, it doesn't make 703 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: me happy, but I think this is the perfect time 704 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: to pick against the Browns. You know, I've been living 705 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: with this organization since nineteen. It's a different world, man, 706 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: it might be and I and I would love to 707 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: see them make a mockery of my hero pick. But 708 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: let's be like your hedge and your bets a little 709 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: bit here. I don't think I am. I know, I 710 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: can understand why that was brought up, but I think 711 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: they caught Jacksonville at the wrong time with a rookie 712 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: quarterback and a team that was coming close to getting wins. 713 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: And again not super logical, but the Raiders played the 714 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: Chargers very tough, and they played the Cardinals right down 715 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: through three quarters last week. There are issues and they 716 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: can't run the ball and that's a big problem from them. 717 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: But I think Derek Carr is going to get a 718 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: win pretty soon. And this sets up well for what 719 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: would be an utter meltdown for the Browns because this 720 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: would trigger a quarterback change number one, probably at halftime, 721 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: and then from there in Less Manziel shines, which is 722 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: an absolute question mark with what's going on with their offensive. 723 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: Were already looking ahead Plawyer bench in Manziel is. What 724 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm sort of feeling is just a sense of doom. 725 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: You are a factory of deadness. This to me and 726 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: Less as a grim because this is everything Less has 727 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: been pushing for. This. It shows me the poison is 728 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: so deep within your veins you can't get it out. 729 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: You want it out, but you can't. The first sign 730 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: of distress and you you're pulling out, You're putting up 731 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: the white flag. I just feel that there's major turning 732 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: points in every Brown season where things go south, and 733 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: it feels like that turning points you think it's going 734 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: to be a replay basically of last year, when they're 735 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: not a replay, No, not that, not that dire, but 736 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: when you start changing quarterbacks, losing to the Raiders and 737 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars back to back is as dire as well. 738 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: They didn't win another game all year, Like, I don't 739 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: see that, but I'm just feeling like this is going 740 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: to trigger a quarterback change. I'm grinning because if I 741 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: just said all of the things that Mark said, you 742 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: guys would be killing me and saying that I was 743 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: torturing Mark. I have actually changed my opinion after what 744 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: I've seen week. I'm fascinated by what you've said because 745 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: you have a better read, you have better intuition on 746 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: the Browns than we do. The difference between me and 747 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: West is I'm not rooting for this to happen. I'm 748 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: not rooting for it to happening. By the way, late 749 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter the weekend before that Jaguars game, 750 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: they're beating the Steelers three at home. To say that 751 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: one bad week and you're you made the point earlier 752 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: and it was the right points why I picked the 753 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: Jaguars last week that they kind of were going into 754 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: a bad spot there. This is not a bad spot. 755 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: I might be overestimating this, and I know you don't 756 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: feel strongly about this stand, but the difference of losing 757 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Alex Mack and having to move Greca over to the center, 758 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: and everything they do comes off the right side of 759 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: that line. They looked like a completely different football. That's fine, 760 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: but who's going to take advantage of it? On the 761 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: Raiders Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack is one player, Charles Woodson 762 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: is having a nice season, but there's nine other guys 763 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: on that defense that aren't playing very well. I mean, 764 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: you have Terrell Brown and Carlos Rogers and Miles Burris 765 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: and all these jokesters who are getting hammered by pretty 766 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: lousy offenses. And there's no reason to think that Kyle Shanahan, 767 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: West's boy from the other week isn't going to dial 768 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: up some nice big plays and they score thirty points. 769 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: You know what makes me, I think I know what 770 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: it is. I hit on it because it's such a 771 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: lost season for me as a Jets fan. I look 772 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: at to you as a Browns fan as someone that 773 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: has some hope, and you're thrown away all the hope. 774 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: And it's too early to throw away though. Well, by 775 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: the way, whether Cape or not has zero impact on 776 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: the game if they win. Don't distance yourself as a 777 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: fan either. Come on, this seems like it's coming from 778 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: a natural place to a dark place. Unless disappointed in 779 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: the pick, I just don't think it'll wind up being right, 780 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: and then you'll kill yourself for it. Because I think 781 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: the Browns are a good team. I think they're going 782 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: to be an eight and eight type of team, and 783 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a week where they instead of collapsing, 784 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: they'll respond to what was a down week last week. 785 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: I think Greg, if I get Jags Raiders correct both heroes, 786 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: I'm going Odell Beckham, I'm gone for a month. I'll 787 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: just come back that that would be amazing if you 788 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: pull this off. So we'll see how it all shakes out. 789 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the rest of the games. 790 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: We will start with the Detroit Lions, who came out 791 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: that great comeback, went over the Saints in their building. 792 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: Now they go to London. It's the wake up at 793 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: Wimbley game and get excited. Greg downstairs actually talking like 794 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: a kid on Christmas or Hanka exciting the Rosenthals. That's 795 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: cheating getting up in the morning. Much better format. One 796 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: big day. It's great. Oh Hanakah is just part of 797 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: the Christmas gifts. That's just one big event. Well, we 798 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: just did Christmas. We're not really, they're just saying the format. 799 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: As kids, we fought for one day, big smorges Borg Christmas. 800 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: That's better than the drying out over the Gentiles. When 801 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: I was a kid, you be jealous of the Jewish 802 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: kids at Honaka because you would say, oh, they're getting 803 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: a gift every day. But then really, if you peek 804 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: behind the curtain, because I had some Jewish friends, so 805 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: I saw it was really going on. It really got 806 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: like one gift on the first day that was good, 807 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: and maybe one on the last day it was good, 808 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: and the rest is a bunch of guards well, and 809 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe on a Christmas morning. Enough enough people gifts on 810 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: Christmas Morning, depending on what's coming down the post. That's 811 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, maybe not to be so jealous. Anyway, 812 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: they don't have some fresh green tree sitting in their 813 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: living room in the middle of December either. I had 814 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: a fake tree. We have gotten to the holidays are 815 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: about that. Don't get me started on fake Christmas tree. 816 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: And I have a real one now in my home. Alright. 817 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: So the Detroit Lions, they had a really nice one. 818 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Now they go to London to play the Falcon. We 819 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: are all out on the Falcons. If there was a 820 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: anti team of a t L maybe it would be 821 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: the Tytoons. But if it wasn't the Tytoons, it's probably 822 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: the Falcons. We're none of us like watching the Falcons there. 823 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: They make everyone look good. They play horribly on the road. Uh, 824 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: they waste a great quarterback. There's no way the Lions 825 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: stubbed their toe in London, right the wake up when 826 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: you were thinking about it, you were thinking until I 827 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: thought it was in Atlanta and then I realized it 828 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: was London. It's possible. Right, We've been saying the same 829 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: things we've been saying about the Falcons defense. We've been 830 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: saying about the Lions offense, that they make every defense 831 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: look good. And if you don't have Calvin Johnson, I 832 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: don't know. I could see this game being wacky and 833 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: the Falcons coming out on the chance they will have 834 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson. There's some optimism, although they do have a 835 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: bye week next week. The biggest mismatch, though possible, in 836 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: the NFL right now, is the Detroit defensive line against 837 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta's passportation. I mean, that's as bad as I think 838 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: They're starting center speaking of centers, is a undrafted free 839 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: agent now because they're down there down two centers now, 840 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's going to go over very well. 841 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: With what the Detroit has going on and their first 842 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: round left tackle hasn't blocked anyone since you had an 843 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: ankle spring a month ago, and are making the leap, Guys, 844 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: Ziggianza playing better and better every week. Got one right. 845 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: Moving forward, The Seattle Seahawks, coming off another loss, now 846 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: travel to Carolina, the former team of at L the Panthers. Gentlemen, 847 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: the Seahawks at some point we think are going to 848 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: get back on track. But are there concerns now and West? 849 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: I'll ask you because you were high on him a 850 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, still being in the Seahawks, is 851 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: this a team that we should be at least moderately 852 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: nervous about being a little adrift right now? Sure? I 853 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: think um I liked them better because of their offense, 854 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: and I really don't have any concerns about their offense 855 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: at all. Look what they did in St. Louis. That 856 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: wasn't why they lost. There was their special teams and 857 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: defense really couldn't run the ball, which was a little weird. 858 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: But when your quarterback is responsible for four yards all 859 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: by himself, your offense is fine. Um, but their defense. 860 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: Uh Ian Rappaport sent Greg and I an email saying, Look, 861 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: if you guys do any film study, you got to 862 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: talk about how much Cam Chancellor is killing the Seahawks. 863 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: And it's something that I think Greg and I probably 864 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: saw even earlier in the season that he's just not 865 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: playing like he was the year before. Byron Maxwell's out, 866 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner's out, They're playing guys like fer Old Simon 867 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: and Burley at cornerback, the Legion of boom Any. They're 868 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: not getting any turnovers at all this year. No, they're not. 869 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: I think teams aren't in all of them like they 870 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: used to be. I think the Seahawks game last week 871 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: is one of the rare cases where a team psychologically 872 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: was not necessarily in the right place to play a game. Yeah, 873 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure they were shocked by the Horseman trade. I'd 874 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: give the Panthers a chance because I think Cam Newton 875 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: is good enough. He's coming off a disastrous game right 876 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: after right after we was talking about him as the 877 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: top five quarterback. He had by far as worst game 878 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: of the year, didn't really make mistakes early and then 879 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: they fell down twenty one nothing. It's just this defense. 880 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: I agree. That's why I took the Seahawks. We all 881 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: took the Seahawks because I don't trust the Panthers defense 882 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: to hold Russell Wilson under points. And that's a lot 883 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: to ask Kim Newton to do. Do we think that 884 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: someone like Doug Baldwin, you know, he had his best 885 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: game in three years last week when they tried to 886 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: when they remove Percy Harvin from the equation. They had 887 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: three straight eighty plus yard drives to close the game. 888 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: The offense, like you said, look good. I wonder if 889 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: if this is the case, we're removing Harvin from the mix, 890 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: is going to help Seattle down the stretch. Not on 891 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: special teams, but well, he really kind of seemed to 892 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: bog things up for them when he was on the field, 893 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: and offense they didn't. His stats were un like, disturbingly 894 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: not good to me. That seems like the justification for 895 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: the trade. I don't remember anybody complaining about Harvin when 896 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: he scored three touchdowns right in a robe against the 897 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: Redskins and they were all called back on penalty. Everybody 898 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: was praising him then, like you win a super Bowl 899 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: with Baldwin and and Curse as your top t wife receivers. 900 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be easy. That's a week. There's 901 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: no way that's not gonna be a weakness all year. 902 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: Moving on to two teams coming up big wins. The 903 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: Rams we just talked about that. They beat the Seahawks 904 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: in their own building last week. The Chiefs went to 905 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: San Diego and beat the Chargers. So these are two 906 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: teams that are flying high right now, still in the mix. 907 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: Both teams, uh, the Rams are flying high? Well, of 908 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: course you're flying how you just beat since one is 909 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: beating the defending champions, not license to fly high. I 910 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's funny like one winning you're flying high now. 911 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: I guess beating the champions isn't a big deal anyway. 912 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: So the Rams and the Chiefs are playing West. Since 913 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: you know all the answers, you you analyze this one, 914 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the better team. So I picked him 915 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: to win, all right. This is why he gets paid 916 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: the big bucks. The interstate seventy uh rivalry. I mean, 917 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be in a household split up 918 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: this week between Into City St. Louis fans just a 919 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: few hours apart in the Midwest. Those guys, get let 920 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: me reset this and let's try to take this seriously 921 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: as UH employees of the company. Austin Davis, Alex Smith. 922 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: Who do you rather have as a quarterback going forward? 923 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: Alex Smith? Question, he's the next Kurt Warner. Austin Davison. 924 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: You listen in one of those two in that a 925 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: f C West, I mean, Kansas City has to take 926 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 1: care of business here at home. I picked them too. 927 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: But you've got the Denver in San Diego five and 928 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: one and five and two. They played, and they played 929 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: Thursday night. His team is set up to go on 930 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: a run. You got St. Louis this week. You got 931 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: the Jets next week. He got six or final ten 932 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: games at home. They had a really tough opening slate 933 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: of games, and they've they've survived it. At three and three. 934 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: The defense is playing good team defense. Remember how bad 935 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: they were at the end of last season. They were 936 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: up and down, but they've they've really played pretty well 937 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: overall this year. Despite in the secondary it seems like 938 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: they're not talented at all, but they've played well John 939 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: Smith's having a good year at corner bit all right. 940 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: Moving on the Chicago Bears. A lot of tumult in 941 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: Chicago after a loss to the Dolphins last week. We 942 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: heard the behind closed doors screaming or yelling. So there's 943 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: a lot of animosity right there, potential even now they 944 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: go to Foxborough. The New England page is always good 945 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: about They always seem to catch teams at a very 946 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: weak point where their constitution is that it's it's one 947 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: of those classic Belichick Brady era type situations. So now 948 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: the Bears get the Bears have to limp into New England. 949 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: I think we know what's gonna happen. I think it's 950 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: going to be a shootout. Without Chandler Jones on the field, 951 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: I think the Bears are good for about five yards 952 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 1: every other week. People are acting like their offense hasn't 953 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: done anything this year. They've had some explosive games, and 954 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: I think this will be a game in the thirties 955 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: for both. And that makes sense because what the Jets 956 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 1: were able to do last week and again that came 957 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: real close to winning, was just run right at New 958 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: England's defense, and they had no issues with that. I 959 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: mean New England might be in a number of shootouts 960 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: down the stretch, but the bottom line is they're gonna 961 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: be six and two and that's halfway to twelve and four. 962 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 1: Same old story in New England and then again break 963 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: some new ground here and defend j cutlery well, I mean, 964 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: he's two weeks ago. He's coming off the Falcons game 965 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: where he throws for four hundred yards and the Bears 966 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: offense looks unstoppable. He has one bag game and everyone's 967 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: acting like he's he's a problem. He's having I think 968 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: the best completion percentage and passer rating of his career 969 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: through seven games. It's weird because of all the games 970 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: to go crazy on Cutler afterwards. That wasn't that terrible 971 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: Cutler game. He had two turnovers. If Alshon Jeffrey holds 972 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: onto a pretty well thrown bomb to start that game, 973 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: he's got another sixty yards, they go up seven. Nothing. 974 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: I mean, little plays like that change things. He missed 975 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: a couple of deep throws by just a little bit 976 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: of It wasn't a terrible game. Band Brandon Marshall had 977 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 1: never played for the Dolphins. This wouldn't be a talking 978 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: point all week, right, and if the if the Dolphin, 979 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if the Bears defense could get Miami off 980 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: the field. I mean the Bears didn't have the ball 981 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: at all in that game because Miami held onto it 982 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: so long. And yet they are very average team in 983 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: a number of categories there, three and four. And that 984 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: is a disappointment for what we were hoping from Mark 985 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: Trustman in year two. All right, let's move on to 986 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: the worst game of the week to last place teams, 987 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers scaring off 988 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Uh. Mark, it is your turn this week 989 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: to make the one game that doesn't seem that exciting. 990 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: Exciting by the way, I initially had the Bucks in this, 991 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: which would have been I think a hero pick. Is 992 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 1: it not? Two of us have the buck? Okay, Well, 993 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: Dan and I Dan, I have failed you entirely. I mean, 994 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: here's what I want to see if I'm after what 995 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: happened with Minnesota last week. Every game where they're running 996 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: all over Teddy Bridgewater and the lines crumbling, we see 997 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: him not playing the way he could. In the one 998 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: game against Atlanta, I thought Bridgewater was a very interesting 999 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: quarterback and I'd like to see what happens this week 1000 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: against that Bucks defensive. Mark your loose grasp of our 1001 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: pick segment never sees this to stop entertaining. Well, I 1002 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: am busy working on, you know, high content that needs 1003 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: to be published immediately and read by many people. I 1004 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: don't have time to sit around and glance at the 1005 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: picks page all day long. All right, Well, you're in 1006 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: first place, so it's working out something that is. Maybe 1007 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: that's the big takeaway we got to talk about here, 1008 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: is that Mark has no idea what's going on, doesn't 1009 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,919 Speaker 1: even know who he's picking, and he's beating all of us. Well, 1010 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: I do know what's going on. Just once I've made 1011 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: the picks, it's gone. I'll let it go. I have 1012 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: other things to think about. I'm just wondering how this 1013 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: bus defense is going to recover from the Dai Kwan 1014 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: Bowers suspension. I'd just like to say that A. J. 1015 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: Green is wrong. It's the Buccaneers who are the scum 1016 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: of the crop. How dare you there? Do they're the 1017 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL. I actually agree with you, 1018 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: and yet I picked them just because I thought these 1019 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: are two of the worst four teams right now in 1020 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'll take the home team. Let's stop talking 1021 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: about this game. Let's move on to the Tennessee Titans 1022 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: at home. The new quarterback, Zach Mettenberger. We are we 1023 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: are in the Zach Mettenberger era because they came out 1024 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: and said today Ken Wizen and said that he's the quarterback. 1025 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: It's not just that Jake Locker has a hand injury. 1026 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: Jake Locker is the second string quarterback now. Clip Ward Jesus, 1027 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: he has plenty of time now to work on those 1028 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: chords up down, down, up, up down and down up 1029 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: because he's the third string quarterback. So this is the 1030 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: game the Houston Texans going to Nashville face the Titans. 1031 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: Texans are not bad team, and I think they're gonna 1032 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: take care of business against Did I pick them? Yes? 1033 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: Against a rookie quarterback says a lot to me about 1034 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: Ken whizzen Hunt. And I like this about him, that 1035 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: he is got the skill to put players where they 1036 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: can succeed. And that's what he's doing with Charlie Whitehurst. 1037 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: Let's get him the practice time. You know who disagrees 1038 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: with you, by the way, that Ken is an unsanswered 1039 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: Matt Leiner, who went out tweeted, I believe that. Uh, 1040 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: I guess lockers out and soon the coach will be too. 1041 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: Just now he said, he said, same old story. Well 1042 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: he did say that. He also said same old story. Basically, 1043 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: was wiz in Hunt not able to coach up a 1044 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: quarterback change in plans? Matt Liners still upset that he 1045 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: got benched for Hall of Famer Kurt Warner, who took 1046 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: the teams to the Super Bowl. Matt Liner, way to 1047 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: go out and prove wasn't hunting wrong the rest of 1048 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: your career. By the way, the Texans are not a 1049 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: good team. You said that to start there a mediocre team. 1050 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: They're a team with Yeah, you said there, you said 1051 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: they're not. But I think they are a bad team. 1052 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: I think they're a six win team that had a 1053 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: really easy schedule to start and has one of the 1054 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: best players of all time on it and Ryan Fitzpatrick 1055 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: is not long for that starting job. No, that's a 1056 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: good point. Although the beat they just got a witness 1057 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: game and we all picked them to win. I believe, 1058 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: yes we did before you even knowing about is an 1059 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: inherent flaw on your logic. There By the way, to 1060 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: say that the fact that one of the best players 1061 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,959 Speaker 1: at all times on the team is a reason why 1062 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: they You can't say that. I'm not saying it's one 1063 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons. I'm saying they're a bad team that 1064 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: happens to have J. J. Watt. I don't know. Whenever 1065 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: that comes on, I feel like someone's punch, feel like 1066 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm under attack, like a swat team is kicked in 1067 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: the glass and there's a smoke bomb in the room. 1068 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: Never again do we think. I think the Titans are 1069 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more interesting now. I want to watch 1070 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback play. Anything helps. Let's be honest, Burger 1071 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: was he wasn't interesting in the preseason two. I like, 1072 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: if anything, Yeah, you're kind of giving up on your 1073 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: season number one. I mean there's there's that, But also, okay, 1074 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: in Jake Locker we're learning right now, is not that 1075 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: he's not going to be the future if wizzen Head 1076 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: sticks around. So your point. I also kind of team 1077 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: whiz on this because finally a coach said, I'm done. 1078 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: I'm done with this Jake Locker stuff, with always dealing 1079 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: with the injuries, and when he's playing, he's not consistent. 1080 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: Why do I want to be tied to that, let's 1081 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: move forward and see what you find. Ian rappaport Our 1082 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: NFL Media Insider, added a lot of good insight, which 1083 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: is essentially they want to see if Mettenburger can be 1084 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: a guy that plays so well that will prevent them 1085 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: from drafting a quarterback because they've already made their decision 1086 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: on Locker. There's no chance that Locker is going to 1087 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: be their quarterbacks, so they might as well give it. 1088 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we're kind of acting like this is normal. 1089 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: It's a sixth round pick. I can't remember a sixth 1090 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: round pick starting the game over a veteran and good 1091 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 1: very poorly. I think there's an asterix there though, because 1092 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: he was coming off the a c L surgery, Mettenberger 1093 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: we saw him in the preseason, had a strong arm 1094 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 1: and was not afraid to take chances down the field 1095 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: throw in the tight windows. I think he might break 1096 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: the record for strip sacks though, because he has a 1097 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: throw emotion that looks like nineteen seventies super Juck Toy 1098 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: where he just takes his arm all the way back 1099 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: and throws like a javelin. It makes me think of 1100 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: the late season reports last year where Tennessee what or 1101 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: whatever they thought about Locker this summer, we're rumored to 1102 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: be going after Jake Cutler if he had become a 1103 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: free agent. I mean they there. This is the second 1104 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff in two years that's come to this decision. 1105 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: West You, I believe, have a sixteen to five lead 1106 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: on in the Whare Miller verse J J. Watt sack 1107 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: competition we're having. I could get seven or eight sacks tonight. Honestly, 1108 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: I could get three sacks. Didn't Derek Thomas have eight 1109 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: in the game once? But he has the record? What 1110 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: could do that? Especially if if he's matched up against 1111 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: Michael Or? Has there been Has there been a worse 1112 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: free agent signing than Michael Or in Tennessee? It was 1113 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: bad just because how did you expect him to do 1114 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: anything different than what he did in Baltimore? And by 1115 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: the way, Clowney looks like he'll be playing at least 1116 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: a little bit in this game. So I haven't answered, 1117 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: though there is one worse. Lamar Woodley five tackles on 1118 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: the season. Now he's out for the year. He playsn't playing. 1119 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: He played six games, including five starts, and had five 1120 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: tackles and no sacks, and they gave him a two year, 1121 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: twelve million dollar contract. Yeah, Reggie mackenzie deserves another year. Sure. Alright, 1122 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: Moving on the Cults and the Steelers, two teams coming 1123 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: off wins. Shutout win for the Cults of course, over 1124 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals. The Steelers beat the Texans with that wild 1125 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: end the second half propelled him to victory. So now 1126 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: these two teams face off. This to me is a 1127 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 1: very tough game to figure out. Let's see how we 1128 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: went as a group. We all picked the Cults a 1129 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: little surprised there, very surprised they actually everyone pick it. 1130 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: This could be a zero pick. Uh, The Steelers at 1131 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: home are going to get beat by the Cults. Why 1132 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 1: do we think that it wouldn't shock me at the 1133 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: Steelers one. But I just this to me is like 1134 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens Bengals games in the Packer Saints game. I 1135 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 1: just think the Cults are playing at such a high 1136 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: level right now that I'm not going to pick against him, 1137 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: especially against the mediocre team like the Steelers. It's been 1138 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,439 Speaker 1: a long time since I picked against the Steelers at home, 1139 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: and I think it says to just how inconsistent they've been. 1140 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: You know, it was a kind of a freaky end 1141 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: of that half against the Texans. But the same thing 1142 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: about Pittsburgh is they had the talent to play with 1143 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 1: anyone when that talent is playing well. But the Colts 1144 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: defensively been much better lately. And it's Andrew Luck. I 1145 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: just I go Andrew Luck here. Andrew Luck didn't even 1146 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: play that well last week. He was okay. It was 1147 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: an average Andrew Luck game and they trounced the Bengals. 1148 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's the guys around him now that are 1149 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: playing at a different level. Luck's gotten better, but the 1150 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: offensive line now is so much better. The defense is 1151 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: just blowing up plays. I mean they played with a frenzy. 1152 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: Trent Richardson had his best game as a cult. Yeah, 1153 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: that's his status. He that's right when he had a 1154 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. I don't think it's gonna be Serrian practice 1155 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: to the end. It's not going to make a difference. 1156 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't think in them winning or losing this game. 1157 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: I am surprised we all took the Colts, but they've 1158 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: played like one of the two or three best teams 1159 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: in the league. And the Steelers, even in that Texans game, 1160 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: didn't impress me. That much. I have a nightmare settler 1161 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: about this being a zero pick. I haven't regret. Can 1162 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: I switch into it here? Sure? Sure, I I never 1163 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: have a problem with with the problem with switching. You're 1164 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: the guy I want to open open the floodgates to 1165 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: switching all over there. You can't know you can't take 1166 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 1: away someone's hero pick on the switch. That's that doesn't 1167 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: seem fair. A lot of times when we see mean nothing, 1168 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dad, they wait a second. They don't mean 1169 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: anything to you, but they mean a lot to Greg. Now, 1170 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: I'll admit it, but I don't really care about the 1171 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: hero picks. And if there were no hero picks, we 1172 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to hear Dave Grohl on our podcast. 1173 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: We pay a handsome sum to do that. Let's move 1174 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: to the final game of the week, the Monday night game. 1175 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Actually, sorry, Dan, not to interrupt you. 1176 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: It's now three o'clock. It's past three o'clock, mark, So 1177 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: do you want to get you want to get? Okay, No, 1178 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: don't really go. Please, he was gonna go, he was 1179 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna actually go. It's actually three oh eight. You gotta 1180 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: go sit there. You have to sit down with the show, 1181 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: I'll stick around, and we need to talk about just 1182 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: not cashing them checks. You know what I mean. Because 1183 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: you got a long term deal, it doesn't mean your 1184 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: motive will not sit here. And have you compare Mark 1185 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: to Albert Haynesworth. That is yeah, that is not fair. Finally, 1186 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: the Monday night game, the Washington Redskins head to Big 1187 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: d to face the first place Dallas Cowboys. Uh now, 1188 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: west is it? Can I say the Dallas Cowboys are 1189 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: flying high? Absolutely? Oh yeah, they all fly in nobody. 1190 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: They have a they have a Tony Romo playing. Where 1191 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: is Tony Romo? And Greg Rosenthal's QB in dex right now? 1192 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: All the way up to number five? And uh, where 1193 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: is Colton McCoy on that QB to be decided? All right, 1194 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: So Colton McCoy is gonna play that Jake Rudin who 1195 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't want to be a jerk 1196 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: about it, but the charisma did not carry over from 1197 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: John to Jay and this in this family tree. I 1198 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of joy out of watching his 1199 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: press conferences, but he he announced on Thursday that they're 1200 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: not gonna make a formal announcement on O R. G 1201 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: three's availability until seven thirty pm Eastern time of Monday 1202 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: night before Monday Night football. But you could read between 1203 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: the lines. It's very obvious. He said they're preparing with 1204 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. He's the starter. He's getting the first start. Mark, 1205 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: I'll I'll open let you open this discussion up amongst 1206 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: us all because you named your son after this guy. Well, 1207 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: I think Call McCoy through the preseason and what little 1208 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: we solve him last week has been efficient, if nothing else. 1209 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't like the whole look and feel of the 1210 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: Redskins because it's not even November. You're on your third 1211 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: quarterback and I can't help. But remember how growd And 1212 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of framed the RG three conversation when he was 1213 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: out there. Isn't the guy necessarily the Grooden feels is 1214 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: his long term answer. They just seemed to be issues 1215 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: with the Redskins, and I'm not sure that even when 1216 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 1: RG three is back, it's going to change much. Call 1217 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,479 Speaker 1: McCoy won the job over Cousins, but that tells us nothing. 1218 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: Neither one of them might even be in the league 1219 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: two years from now, who knows. I don't think Cousins 1220 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: will be with the Redskins next year. Well not with 1221 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: the Redskins. I mean they could have traded him for 1222 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: a third round pick to the Browns. They missed out. 1223 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't wasn't that the report that the Browns they 1224 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 1: were going to do that. That is a depressing I mean, 1225 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: not this year. I'm talking to the last year. They 1226 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: had their chance to get rid of him, and you 1227 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: gotta give him a shot. I don't blame him for that. 1228 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: We all picked the Cowboys obviously, and and they can't 1229 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: assume they're going to stub their Tony Moore, but watch 1230 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: them do it this week. But I want to just 1231 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: throw it out to you guys, just while we're here 1232 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: for posterities. It's ten October Cowboys final record at the 1233 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: end of the regular season. I just want to see 1234 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: how invested we are in the Cowboys. Greg, We'll start 1235 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: with you. I want to look at the schedule. If 1236 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a big prediction like this, no, just 1237 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 1: say it, just let it rip. What are they now? 1238 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Six and one, six and one, eleven and five. I'm 1239 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,919 Speaker 1: ten and six. I'm going twelve and four, Okay, Yeah, 1240 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the eleven twelve boat. Myself, you 1241 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: think they're gonna come down down to earth, West, I 1242 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: don't think they're as good as six and one. Eleven 1243 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: and five is coming down to earth even I mean 1244 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: that's five and four. The rest of the way. You 1245 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: have to I think when you look at the Cowboys, 1246 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: you have to say, like any human being, your greatest 1247 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: strength can also sow the seeds of your destruction. Give 1248 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: me a seconds three covering from the go ahead. Why 1249 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: why do you say that? Because they are running, they 1250 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: are resting on DeMarco Murray's brittle shoulders, and this is 1251 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's never been able to stay healthy. We 1252 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: can't say that in the heavy workloads make a running 1253 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: back more injury prone during during that specific season. The 1254 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: stats don't bear that out, but I think mathematically the 1255 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: more touches you give a running back, the more likely 1256 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: is to get injured. If you're giving a running back 1257 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: and eight touches, which he's on pace four, he's more 1258 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: likely to get injured. It's one player that you actually 1259 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: you really have to factor the injury possibility. But I'm 1260 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: not doing that in my prediction. If they if they 1261 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of continue at where they are, I think that 1262 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: they're set up to have a twelve win type season, 1263 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: no question, wouldn't this be the delicious week for it 1264 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: all to turn around? Cult McCoy, the Texas Kid goes 1265 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: into Dallas, and if this was a made for TV 1266 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: movie about Colt McCoy's life, this is the apexy to 1267 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: win against the Cowgar miss In one element, what if 1268 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: something happens to Tony Romo and it's Cult McCoy verus 1269 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden. No, I don't actually, I mean, I'm just 1270 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: thinking that would be an outrageously matchup for you though, 1271 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: would be a little interesting. It would be fascinating question 1272 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: for Greg. I know we don't. They don't tend to 1273 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: rip on owners in this podcast, but not typically. But 1274 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: you're whipping boy general manager Jerry Jones. He should be 1275 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: giving him a little bit of credit for what he's 1276 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: done with this team. I think we have been for 1277 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,479 Speaker 1: weeks though, haven't we. I don't know that we've been saying, 1278 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, has you have for picking up the offensive 1279 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: line he did? Jerry Jones did a great job um 1280 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: getting convinced by everyone around him not to take Johnny 1281 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Man's out, even though that's what he did, and months 1282 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: later he regretted it and talked about that if he's 1283 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: strained hard enough, you can see that Jerry Jones had 1284 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: a vision with this offensive line. He drafted Givin Escobar 1285 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: in the second round. Now they're running two tight end sets. 1286 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Escobar is coming off his best game as a pro. 1287 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford, they drafted in a third round, is playing 1288 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: awesome at defensive end. They've got a lot of good 1289 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,479 Speaker 1: ingredients that Jerry Jones picked up. They've had a couple 1290 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: of good drafts and the offensive line. I was kidding before, 1291 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: you should give him a ton of credit and give 1292 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 1: the organization a ton of credit for building that line 1293 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: up because it's all homegrown after seventeen years of not 1294 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: doing so, let's just be honest, all right. So that 1295 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: is it for Thursday's edition to be around the NFL Podcast. 1296 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,919 Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday night as we are 1297 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: every week to recap all of these games. So thank 1298 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you for listening. As always, this is Dan Hansons signing 1299 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: off for the Sizzler, the Mailman, the Boss, Untid behind 1300 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: the Glass until Sunday