1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Acts, says 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: John Harris longside, the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandermer 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: gonna have a little in the lab, which drew Doerty 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: a little bit later talking a little bit of OTA's Well. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: Mark, I figured i'd hit you to this evening with 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 3: a little either or AFC South Oh boy plus okay 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: style a FC South. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Plus Yeah, which means we'll do it sounds more. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: The new app for the AFC South AFC South plus 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 4: the program related to a South for a small monthly fee. 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Right, exactly, small monthly fee exactly. 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: That's except you don't have to pay you, the listener, 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: don't have to pay the small Molly fee now either 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 2: or you. 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Know it pretty you know it pretty well? Yeah, okay, uh. 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: I present to you a scenario or a thought, and 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: I give you two options, sometimes three, but two, and 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: then you have to decide, you have to explain yourself, 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: and then I give you thumbs up down depending on 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: I really don't but Eddie. 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So here we go. It's gonna start with running back. 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: You hate to face the most in the AFC South. 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three. Maybe not before I see, maybe 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: not after. 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: See where you're going here, Johnny, But right now, Okay, 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: it's a three headed monster. Derrick Henry Titans, Jon the 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: Taylor Colts or Travis Etn Jaguars. Which one would you 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: rather not face? In twenty twenty three? 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 4: Ooh gosh, you know, didn't ETN have a really good 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: game against the I don't like that. 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't like that about him. Gashed us had a 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: good game. I did not like that at all. 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: I did not like seeing that because that was I'm 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: not gonna call it an unexpected development for them last year, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: but it was an unwelcome development. 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: That's a good way of putting, because he welcome. He 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: was hurt his rookie year. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: And then he goes for one oh eight on hold 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: on folks, nine carries, nine carries for one eight Johnny. 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I knew it was bad. I knew it was bad. 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was had he had a sixty 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 4: two yard so that that helps the yard per carry average. 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: And if I'm Sean Pendergast, I'm adding up the other 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: eight carries and dividing it by let's see what it's 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 4: a lot of yards per carry. Still, yeah, okay, it's eight. 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: It's too many. We don't like kefy six yards to carry, 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: not one little bit. So I'm gonna say it's not 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: etn though it's probably I'm gonna say it's Jonathan Taylor. Okay, 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: not that I'm I'm fine with Derrick Henry now not 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: a problem anymore. No, he's always a problem, Johnny Dereck 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: Henry is still a nightmare, and it's gonna take me 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: a long time to get over it. Because his last 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: game against the Texans, Houston held him below two hundred yards. 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: Now we hung up a banner. No we didn't, but 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 4: if we were the Colts. 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: We would have. 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: We should have after the four times before that, because 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: he had that big run against us and I thought, 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: oh no, here we go again. 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: And ye from that point forward, Yeah, it was. It 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: was good that forty eight yard run, right, Yeah. 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: And the rest of the day you kind of he 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: had gashes and he had runs, but you held him 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: in check relative to who he is. 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Right And on a day. 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 4: When Malik Willis is playing, you feel a whole lot 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: better about the situation. When you're getting a lot of 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: third down opportunities on defense, and that's exactly what the 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: Texans did on Christmas. 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Even Nashville won that game that way. 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: So maybe I shouldn't speak too soon because Henry's still 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: a terror and boy banner hanging. Last year, I hung 74 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: up a banner for stop mahone banner stopped Mahomes in overtime. 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: That was one banner. 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: I hung up yeah and held Derrick Henry below one 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards, that was another banner. But I'm 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: gonna say it's Taylor because Taylor back fresh, Colts, re juvenated, 79 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: Shane Steikn, whatever he cooks up, Anthony Richardson being concerned 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: about what he can offer, or if it's Minshew or whatever. 81 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm kind of selling myself on Taylor here. Boy, this 82 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: division is really running back with Henry Etn, Damian Pierce 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: and Jonathan Taylor. It's a good running back division, maybe 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: the best in the league. 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: And I would say it's Taylor. I mean, if you 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: go a step deeper, Ty J. 87 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: Spears are the Titans, Zach Moss with the Colts, Devin 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Singletary with the Texans. I miss seven legit, dudes that 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: if Spears pans out, that's gonna be a problem in Tennessee, 90 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: but we all know obviously revolves Roun Dereck Henry. Okay, 91 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: at the end of twenty twenty three. 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, one thing, let me interrupt you. Okay, 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: you mentioned Zach Moss. Do you remember what he had 94 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 4: against the Texans on closing day? 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh? I think he had like thirteen broken tackles. I 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: know that he. 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: Had one hundred and fourteen yards on eighteen carry. You 98 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: think the run defense in the division it's a little 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: tough last year. I love what Demiko said yesterday when 100 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: he was asked about last year's run defense or whatever. 101 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: Last year? What is I was in San Francisco, So 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 4: what does last year have to do with anything? Jimmy 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: Ward about last year's Texans run defense? 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: You could tell he was withholding a chuckle to like 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with anything. 106 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: I get it because you and I are going to 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: talk about this how they've improved. Yeah, but different personnel, 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: different coaching staff and everything. Dimiko doesn't care what they 109 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: did last year. I don't even know if he's looking. 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: He's probably looking at individual performances last year of guys 111 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: who were still on this squad. But and yeah, he 112 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: probably is looking at some of those stats, but he 113 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: doesn't want to talk about it because this is a 114 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: new beginning. 115 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: You can't you you can't reference last year to this year. 116 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: It's just not wise. It's just not wise. 117 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: And everybody would be asking, hey, what's the difference, and 118 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: I get it now, like asking a question now, But 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: once you kind of that kind of thing of hey, 120 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: how is this gonna be different? 121 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what last year. 122 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I know what last year looked like, but 123 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: I don't know the Dimiko's kind of withholding a chuckle 124 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: with that one. 125 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: But either way, all right. 126 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: Let's move on to this one. At the end of 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, that's the season we got coming up. 128 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, at the end of twenty twenty three, the 129 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: best receiver in the AFC South will be either Michael Pittman. 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Or Calvin Ridley. 131 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Michael Pittman with the Colts, Calvin Ridley and the Jags 132 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: is the only two options you have. 133 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: Now, it might be somebody else completely. 134 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: Treylon Burks might go off, you know, a Texans receiver 135 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: might like Nico Collins might catch one hundred and eighty passes. 136 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying end of twenty twenty three, the two 137 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: options you have as the best receiver in the AFC 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: South Calvin Ridley, who hasn't played since twenty twenty one, 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: like midway through twenty twenty one. So you suspended all 140 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: last year, then traded the Jags Michael Pittman, who now 141 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: has to live life with Anthony Richardson. 142 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: And how does that play a role Pittman, Either Pittman 143 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: or Ridley. It's Pitman, It's Pittman. 144 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: Ridley's best season was twenty twenty the COVID year ninety 145 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: catches for one forty three. Can he get back to that? 146 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: I would say, Look, he's got the quarterback to help 147 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: him get there. 148 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 149 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: And we just talked about their running game, some of 150 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: the other weapons they have, ingram the tight end. In 151 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: other words, the more weapons you have, the more likely 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: you are to have opportunities one on one whatever. I 153 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: don't know, Johnny, I don't know. I think Pittman. I 154 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: think they're gonna design enough stuff for Pittman. I am 155 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: not here. Look, I will not buy in to the 156 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: Colts just being horrible. I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, 157 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: they will not be ignored. Dan they're the Colts. They're 158 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: gonna find a way to try to make at least 159 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: attempt to make my life miserable, because that's what they do. 160 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: They've always done it. It's death and taxes. The Colts 161 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: find a way. They've done it to the tune of, 162 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: you know what, here's what we're gonna do to torment you, Vandermere. 163 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: We're gonna not We're gonna not beat the Texans in 164 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. The Texans will not lose to the Colts, 165 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: yet you will still not feel satisfied. That's how we 166 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: will torment you. What how will that happen? This is 167 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: me prior to twenty twenty two, and then I find 168 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: out later there's a tie, and then there's a win 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: for the Texans, where if you lost, you would have 170 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: had the number one pick. But I'm never gonna be 171 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: disappointed in a win. We've got over this material a lot. 172 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: But that's just the Colts and a nutshell for you. 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: They always fired a way to make me miserable, and 174 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 4: I'm hoping they don't this year. Let's see if we 175 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: could sweep them like we did in twenty sixteen. 176 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: I've heard Landry's mentioned this about Calvin Ridley, and I 177 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: think that is a it was that was a savvy 178 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: move by Trent Balki. That was a really really savage 179 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: move to pull that out. That's a futures move right there. 180 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: That's like buying frozen concentrated orange juice at a low price, 181 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: right and thinking that the price is going to go 182 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: up and we'll see if it does. 183 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh okay, So along those lines, you kind of brought 184 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: it up. Scariest movie character Alex Forrest, Glenn Close and 185 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: Fatal Attraction or Annie Wilkes who was Kathy Bates in 186 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: the movie Misery. 187 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: Oh, Kathy Bates is scarier. 188 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: Are you sure there was some mental anguish that Alex 189 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Forrest put put Dan through. 190 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: This is kind of like when you're picking. 191 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: He deserved it, He deserved it. This is Lebron and Michael. 192 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: Just because you like one doesn't mean you think the 193 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: other guy sucks. Right. Just because you you think Kathy 194 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: Bates and Misery is a lot scarier than Glenn Close 195 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: and Fatal Attraction, it does not mean you think Glenn 196 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: Close and Fatal Attraction is a dream date. 197 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: True. 198 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: I get that, but at least there was some dream 199 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: date moments early on. 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: I mean, the beginning went well. I think, I don't know, 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe not. I'll watch it now. You know there's that podcast, 202 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: the Rewatchables. 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so if you rewatch Fatal Attraction and know what's coming, 204 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: it's not enjoyable at all. 205 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: No, it's not, you know. 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: And even if they're redoing it, they're redoing it. 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: Ses yes, series yet I have not seen. I don't 208 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: know how they changed it. Do they have too many 209 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: boiling rabbits going. I don't know what they're doing, but 210 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: I think Kathy Bates misery and folks who haven't seen it, 211 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, it's so bad. 212 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: He's trapped, he's injured. There's no way out. 213 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: With Glenn close, you feel like, actually, there's not a 214 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 4: good way out of that except for what finally helpened. 215 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: The bathtub. That's what the colts are too. 216 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: They're coming out of the bathtub. You think they're dead, 217 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: and then they they bounce out of the bathtub like 218 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: Mahomes or Brady or one of those guys. 219 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Uh. Fatal Attraction deep dive reimagining of the classic eighties thriller, 220 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: exploring timeless themes of marriage and infidelity through lens of 221 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: modern attitudes towards strong women, personality disorders, and co course 222 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: of control. 223 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: That is going to be a mind bender. 224 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: That there's a lot in that little previous sentence, but 225 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: fatal attracts. Yeah, what you said, I'm not I will 226 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: not be ignored, Dan, I got that movie is just 227 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: ah And now they're making a TV series. 228 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: Speaking of She's calling him at the office and the receptionist, well, 229 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: it's his administrative assistant. 230 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: She's on the phone again. 231 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: He's like, tell her I'm not here, and so obviously 232 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 4: she's already an accomplice almost in his right wrongdoing. And 233 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: it's just the plot gets so thick, and Herman Munster 234 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: is in it. Fred Wynn plays his boss in that movie. 235 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: Way yeah, because he played he played the judge in. 236 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: My Cousin Vinie, My cousin Vinnie. Yeah. 237 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: Oh man, he has some good roles outside of being 238 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: Herman Munster. 239 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean vander Kidd two, the ten year old. 240 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: I've been showing him classic TV series right, Yeah, So 241 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: the one that plays the best for him is Gilligan's Island. 242 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: It's just zany funny. Yeah, you can identify he can 243 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: identify with Gilly I guess I don't. 244 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: Know, but you get to haul up globe trotters coming 245 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: to town or coming to the island. 246 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: Did they come to the island? Yeah? I think it 247 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: was a little later in the run the globe tutters. Yeah. 248 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: I think it was one of the game on the islands, 249 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: made for TV movies later or something. 250 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they were on the island 251 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: during the show. But okay, I'll look it up. It's funny. 252 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: Asked now how they put the whole thing together? Anyway, 253 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: go on. 254 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Ginger and Marianne. I should ask that, but 255 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: that that'll be a question for either. 256 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: Or Ginger or Mary. I'm telling you, though, you know 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: what I forgot about or that could go on forever. Okay, 258 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: you know what I forgot about that? Just since we're 259 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: on the subject. Marianne, in my memory, I thought she 260 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: was really girl next door, very cute, but girl next 261 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: door type. Marianne is blazing hot. Okay, Marianne is short 262 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: shorts and it's she's the same thing in fact, isn't there. 263 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: I think there's a later movie where she plays the 264 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: Ginger part. 265 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: Really yeah. 266 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: It came out years after injury, and she's perfectly capable 267 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: of it. 268 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there it is. 269 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: Maybe she did in the animated one, she did her 270 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: voice or something like that. There's something about Marianne and 271 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: Ginger and there's that one episode where she poses. 272 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: As Ginger and she does a fine job. 273 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, marian Ginger could create I mean there are probably 274 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: some out there going what related? 275 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: No, no, they can dated reference, but it is dated. 276 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: But I think people have looked back on that. It's 277 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 4: it's popular enough. It's almost like pop culture scripture that 278 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 4: passes the test of time. 279 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: Right I I, Oh, that's a good one. What TV 280 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: shows and movies have transcended time? 281 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, James Bond interesting? 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: Okay, this one about the Texans and NAFC South Okay, wit, 283 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: this is This will be a tough one. 284 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 285 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: Which twenty twenty two first round pick of the Textans 286 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: will be the most improved player on the team, either 287 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: Derek Stingley Junior or Kenyon Green? 288 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: All right, I think the easy answer is Stingley. However, 289 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: I think Stingley played pretty well last year. He just 290 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: wasn't available at the end of the year, and I 291 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: think the way the defense was set up it didn't 292 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: showcase him. Right, Yeah, it's a better way. I'm saying 293 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: it for lack of a better way of putting it. 294 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: But I think Kenyon Green is going to really improve 295 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: a lot this year. And he's got to get healthy. 296 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: We all know that he's got to get healthy. And 297 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: the Miko gave an update on him yesterday saying he's 298 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: progressing or whatever he said. And I know we have 299 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: some time here, Johnny, but we're two months away from camp. 300 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: That goes fast, really fast. I don't care what you're 301 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: doing or not doing well. I do care, but the 302 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: point is this two months will fly by, so anybody 303 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: I'll be ready for camp. Okay. Two months ago was 304 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: the owner's meetings. Two months from now is training camp. 305 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: You've got to figure out a way to get on 306 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: the field and make an impact. And assuming he can, 307 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: I think he'll naturally get better this system, the way 308 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: they coach, the old line, I think he'll fit in 309 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: just fine. 310 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I like the way you put that. 311 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: I do think that it's often thought that oh, Sting 312 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: didn't play very well. 313 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't think that was the case. I mean 314 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I thought I thought Sing played fine. 315 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: Now that second game against the Broncos, you know Courtland 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Suton got him a few times. Is Courton Suton's done 317 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: until a lot of a lot of really good defensive backs. 318 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: I got you put it that way because I think 319 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: he played. When he played, I thought he was I 320 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: thought he was solid. But that second half of the 321 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: season where for rookie you typically see that growth and 322 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: that that rise, if you will, we obviously. 323 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance didn't get a chance to see that. 324 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Kenyon, I go back to this, 325 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: I said this yesterday on a round table. You could 326 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: all different questions in every question we talk about with 327 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: the Texans and just NFL teams in general, you. 328 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Just have to couch with but you just got to 329 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: be healthy. You have to be healthy. 330 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was that was seen more so I 331 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: thought with Kenyon last year, I felt like he tried 332 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: to play through some things and that I mean it 333 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: was that Las Vegas game where he went out, he 334 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: went back in, He tried to play through it. I 335 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,359 Speaker 2: think there is a level and a degree of toughness 336 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: with him that I absolutely love. It's just a matter 337 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: of now staying healthy so you can. I think, you know, 338 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: bill O Brown is maybe the first one person I 339 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: first coach. I heard say this, but I mean it 340 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: makes logical sense, especially the rookie or young player. Every 341 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: day that they're out there, they're stacking good days, they're 342 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: learning something more about their game. 343 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: The game is slowing down for them. 344 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: They're just getting uh, they're getting better and improving by 345 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: the minute. But when you're in and out of the lineup, 346 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: when you're not able to play because you're not healthy, 347 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: then it's starting stop. 348 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: It's like Houston traffic. 349 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: It's like you start, You're like, yeah, and oh, the 350 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: injury slowed me down, and then you got to slow down. 351 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: They got back up. 352 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of like that in some sense, and you 353 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: don't want it to be like that in some sense. 354 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm staying here. 355 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people talk about Sauce, and rightly, 356 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: so Sauce is great, and staying it's not over. It's 357 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 4: one year, right, right, he got hurt and Johnny who 358 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: is better defensive talent? In twenty twenty two, the Jets 359 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: are the Texans better defensive talent. The Jets were the 360 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 4: fourth best defense in the league in yards per game. 361 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: Okay, but we got one Jet over here, Seldon Rankins big. 362 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: They were up in total points allowed to. They were 363 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: fourth in the league in scoring d The Jets were 364 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 4: solid on defense last year. They were in year two 365 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 4: of that total team rebuild. I know the Texans were 366 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 4: in year two of Lovey's defensive system. I think the talent, 367 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: though on the New York side of things, maybe a 368 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: little bit better than the Texans last year. I think 369 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: this year, the Texans talent, I'm not saying it's better 370 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: than the Jets necessarily, but it's going to be a 371 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: lot better than it was. I think that the system, 372 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: everything's gonna help Sting. You're gonna see a much better 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: product out there from him and from the entire unit. 374 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: If Quinn Williams, let's just say Quinn Williams were to 375 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: sign with the Texans and not return, say the Jets 376 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: are like, we can't sign them. 377 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Texas like, hey, we got money, we'll sign you. Come on, 378 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: let's go. 379 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: When they work a work a deal, the total talent 380 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: and the overall talent will be better here. Wow, it 381 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: would be there. Quinn Williams can flip that because he 382 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: would be that good. 383 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: They were fourth in the league. I know, I'm not 384 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: saying that they're not, but Quinn Williams is a big 385 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: part of that. 386 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 5: Wow. 387 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: So now you flip Quinn Williams over here, Ann Rankins 388 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: is already over here. That's fifty percent of the four 389 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: man rotation they had last year, and they were pretty 390 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: good inside, very good inside. 391 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: That's why I got really excited about Rankins. 392 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: So if you flip Quinn Williams, no, I think Quinn 393 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Williams will go back, but you know, we'll see. Okay, 394 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: we talked about the ricky quarterbacks a lot, so I 395 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: don't think that's too much at issue, But I don't 396 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: know if there's It's hard to say because you got 397 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: two rookie coaches and Shane Styke and Demika Ryan's put 398 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: it this way, who's on a hotter seat, either Mike 399 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: Vrabel or the field in plus in the South, in 400 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: the AFC SOUTHFC South? Is there anybody even close Doug 401 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: Pearson know any of the rookie coaches know. 402 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: As GM in Indianapolis Gem Is that seat getting warm 403 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: if they don't to perform a lot better, even though 404 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: they're in the first year of a coaching. 405 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: Staff, could very well be. Yeah, you never know. 406 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: I think Rabel's seat, Johnny, it's tough because Rabel's such 407 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 4: a good coach. I know they could go. They could 408 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 4: go five and twelve. Rabel could get fired. He'd have 409 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: a job in ten minutes. 410 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: Two seconds, Yes, it wouldn't I mean two seconds, right, 411 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: he wouldn't even and I home. 412 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: I hope they messed that up. Yeah, I hope they're 413 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: great to get them out of there. 414 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 4: They people around the Titans have such respect for Vrabel. 415 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: Now you wonder how it's gonna go with Ran Carthon 416 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: and that chemistry between them and ownership and everything, because 417 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: so far it just seems kind of clunky. 418 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: But we don't know. It might be great. 419 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: They might be the surprise team of the division this year, 420 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: and maybe it shouldn't be that much of a surprise 421 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: considering Yeah, I know they were replacing a lot of 422 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: old linemen and some other things. But we just talked 423 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: about Derrick Henry and maybe Tannehill's got enough left to 424 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: turn them into a winning team again. We all talk 425 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: about it. How as bad as it was they were 426 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: playing for the division. In that final game of the season, 427 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 4: national television fumbled the ball with a fifth string quarterback 428 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: or whatever. Josh Dobbs, we love him, but he fumbled 429 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: the ball and that happened and the Jaguars won. That's 430 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 4: the other side of this. The Jaguars were that fumble 431 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: and a little extra Tennessee yardage to get into field 432 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: goal territory. Is that what they needed away from not 433 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: making the postseason and that that horrible first half against 434 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 4: the Chargers. You know, as much as we rave about Lawrence, 435 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: and we should give him his due because that was 436 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: a hell of a comeback in the postseason. I mean, 437 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: my gosh, that's historic stuff. He still threw four picks 438 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: in that game, you know, so good for him to 439 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 4: overcome it. 440 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: But he threw four picks in that game. I'm not 441 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: here to. 442 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: Say that, Oh, it's Pro Bowls from here on out 443 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: through the rest of eternity for Trevor Lawrence. You know, 444 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: I'm never gonna give him that Johnny and Tie Chiefs 445 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 4: that I know that. 446 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 447 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 4: I think rabel Seed is hot as there's no or 448 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 4: I mean possibly Chris Ballard in Indianapolis. And that is 449 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: a that's largely due to the unpredictability of ownership, which 450 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 4: inexplicably assigned Sam Ellinger the starting quarterback quote for the 451 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: rest of the season in. 452 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: Week five or whatever it was. 453 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: I get it, give Ellinger a start, but why do 454 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: you have to announce he's the starting quarterback for the 455 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: rest of the season, and then you ultimately didn't follow 456 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: through with that because he didn't play well enough to 457 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: earn that. They went to nick Fole And it's really 458 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 4: funny how things have gone in that market and in Nashville. 459 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: This is pretty interesting. The Jacks had a model of stability, 460 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: well kind of. 461 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: So after the bye week last last year, they had 462 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: a big comeback against Baltimore to win twenty eight twenty 463 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: seven at home. Thought they turned a corner. They went 464 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: to Detroit and got hammered. Yeah, forty to fourteen, got blitzed. 465 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: Then they went to Tennessee the next week and that 466 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: was Tennessee starting to slide, beat him by a couple 467 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: of touchdowns. The next week was Dallas. Remember they were 468 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: down big to Dallas and came back. 469 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Had the bounce of the century. 470 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: Then they got it. But give them credit, right, but 471 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: then they went to the Jets. They faced Zach Wilson, 472 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 2: they held them three points. Then they played us hell 473 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: those three points. They were impressive in those two games. 474 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: I'll give them, that for sure, But they had to 475 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: come back against the Ravens. They had to come back 476 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: against the Titans. They were down in that game against 477 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: the Titans, too, ended up roaring back, come back against 478 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, on their deathbed against the Titans, came back 479 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: and won that. On their deathbed again against the Chargers, 480 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: came back and won that. Now, I'm not gonna sit 481 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: here in dispute. The Jacksonville's not the top team in 482 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: division at this point, but I could see. I mean, 483 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: are they a top eight team in the league. They 484 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: might be the best team in the division right now. 485 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: They have the crown. Crown them not for twenty twenty three, 486 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: but for twenty twenty two. They have the crown, but 487 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: it can get knocked off. Yeah, and even if they 488 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: win the division, it doesn't mean they're one of the 489 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: best teams in the league. 490 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: Listen out to their schedules. 491 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: The first half they go eight bye week eight or 492 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: nine at Colts home, Chiefs home, Texans home, Falcons, going 493 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 2: to London. Oh, I'm sorry, London for the Falcons, then 494 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: London again for the Bills. They come back for Colts 495 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: at home, which they've always beaten. The Colts at New 496 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: Orleans at Pittsburgh. You tack on two London trips in 497 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: the middle of that and road games at New Orleans, 498 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh, at Indy. 499 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they should be a winning team through that. 500 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: I have them losing three in that stretch. 501 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: Then they come out of the bye week. Niners, okay, 502 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: keep going, Titans both those at home at Texans, then 503 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: Cincinnati at home at Cleveland, than home Baltimore at Tampa, 504 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: Carolina at Tennessee. 505 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: To close it, I could see ten and seven, ten 506 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: and seven, that's what I have tenants certainly not over 507 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: eleven and a half. I'll tell you that it's not. 508 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that it's not. It could be, but 509 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: it could also be worse. Injuries. Whatever this happened. 510 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: That two game London trip, I mean, you don't know 511 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: how that's going to take you. I mean, there's no 512 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: precedent for why no, But if your body's going. 513 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: To go through through all that, if anybody can deal 514 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: with it, they can. 515 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: I guess you'd get that feeling you're right about it, 516 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: and it's I don't want to call it a break, 517 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: but like they said, they'd rather play the Bills in 518 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: London than in Western New York, either London or Western 519 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: New York. But Bill Taffia is gonna go to London. 520 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: They're gonna be Oh, they're gonna be all about it. 521 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: They're gonna empty the piggy bangs. Yeah, they're going to London. 522 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: They're all going to London. There's no question about that. 523 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Not going to London. 524 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: And Drew Dordy stops by for in the Lab next 525 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: on Texas All Access. What does having flair, well wearing 526 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: pieces of flair have to do with the Houston Texans. Well, 527 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: stick around because we talk about that right here on 528 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: our in Lab podcast with Drew Doerty and myself John Harris. 529 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: Squad you're with me, But we talked mainly about the 530 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: offensive line. On Tuesday, Tamika Ryans said that the offensive 531 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: line might be the strongest unit on the squad, which 532 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: I know people probably heard that went, wait a second, 533 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: I've seen an offensive line. Is it gonna be Yeah, 534 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna be better. Drew and I talked about it 535 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: right here on in the Lab. 536 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 6: We know ta's yesterday, right smack dab in the middle 537 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 6: of our normal in the Lab talking. 538 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 5: Time, So let's do it today. On a Wednesday question. 539 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 6: I like that, Let's do it, and for the first 540 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 6: time in a long time, it looks like on paper, 541 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 6: knocking on wood, the Texans have a really good offensive line, 542 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 6: and the offensive line will be the strength of this team. 543 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 6: There have been question marks about it for the last decade, 544 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: chunks of the offensive line. Now, you've had a great 545 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: left tackle for the most part in Laramie Tunsel, and 546 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 6: before him he had Dwayne Brown. But there was a 547 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 6: stretch in there where you were kind of had having 548 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 6: to juggle some things cool. There was a stretch in 549 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 6: there where the interior of the offensive line had some 550 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 6: question marks and had some flaws. As a fist, you 551 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 6: have five fingers and a fist. As a fist, sometimes 552 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 6: that fist lacked a bit of punch, but it looks 553 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 6: like you've got some thump behind that fist this year. 554 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 5: Would you agree when you heard. 555 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Dimika Ryans say that yesterday about the offensive line being 556 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: one of the strongest units on a team. 557 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: I do with Mark a lot. What's your gut reaction 558 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: to hearing that. 559 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 6: I like that it's in line with what we've seen 560 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 6: and what we think, and I'm cool with it. I 561 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 6: mean and kind of going off of what you just 562 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 6: asked and what I was saying the preamble. I remember 563 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: Lovey Smith unprompted to me last year when we were 564 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 6: walking onto the practice field at training camp and he 565 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 6: was about to talk to fans. He saw Titus and 566 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: he saw Laramie walking together and he said, Drew, that's 567 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 6: probably the best tackle combo in football. I don't. He's like, 568 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 6: I don't think any other team has a combo at 569 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 6: tackle that good. 570 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 5: And that's saying a lot. 571 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 572 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 6: I mean between them, there were some question marks, there 573 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 6: were some good play, but you know, I think this 574 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 6: year going in it's going to be really really fun 575 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 6: to see. And it's like he said, it should be 576 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: a strength of this ball club, and that's what you need. 577 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 6: That's what this think about. The best Texans team ever, 578 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 6: I think it's twenty eleven. Yeah, and that had easily 579 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 6: the best offensive line in franchise history. 580 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: I think there are a couple of things that aren't 581 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: maybe discussed about the offensive line a lot. I mean 582 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: you mentioned one of them, and that's Titus Howard. I 583 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: think one not often mentioned thing i'l channel Landry and 584 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: John nobody's talking about guy is the fact that Titus 585 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: is playing right tackle for the second year in a row, 586 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: not moving to a different position. 587 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: He's not being bounced around. 588 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: He's got his footwork, he's got his hand placement, all 589 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. He knows how to do it 590 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: at right tackle, and he's back at right tackle. I 591 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: think that is huge to his continued progress and Johnny's 592 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: in year five. Yeah, these guys he's still improving year five, 593 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: So I think that's massive. 594 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: The fact that he stays at right tackle. 595 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: Don't move him around even during OTA's when you know 596 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: Laramie was not there, Charlie stepped in a left tackle. 597 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: They didn't moved Titus over there. 598 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: Now they might, They might in a game if they 599 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: have to, but for his continued to improvement and growth, 600 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: leaving him at right tackle huge. Secondly, I don't know 601 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: that enough has been made about Shaq Mason's impact on 602 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: this offensive line at guard. I am not one of 603 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: those I thought Aj Cann was terrible, horrible. I think 604 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: they're different kinds of players, su Aj Cann and Shaq Mason. 605 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: But I think adding Mason obviously signed a contract, is 606 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: going to be here for a little bit. When you 607 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: put Mason next to Titus. Well, you got something there. 608 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you really do have something there. So I 609 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: think there's that those two things. I don't know that 610 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: I think part of it from me. I'll be honest. 611 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes I forget we traded for Shack Mason. Yeah, so 612 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: let's forget it because we just haven't seen the team. 613 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 6: It was one of the quiet significant rives, not just 614 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 6: by this team, but by any team in the sport. 615 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: Here's the third one. I don't know A lot has 616 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: been made of this move. It kind of happened in 617 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: concurrence with a number of other things that are going on. 618 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: Was Michael Dieter coming over from Miami, who has got 619 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: center experience, He's got guard experience. I think more guys 620 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: that you have on a roster that have got significant 621 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: playing experience at whatever position. But if you have that 622 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: versatility to be able to play center or guard, I 623 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 2: think the addition of Michael Year is going to help 624 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: this line. Whether Deeter starts, whether he's the sixth offensive lineman, 625 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: whatever the case might be. But I feel like those 626 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: those three things, in particular Titus staying at right tackle 627 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: that has been a topic before. Was Ty's gonna play 628 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: right tackle. Well, no, he's a left That's been a 629 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: topic before. Hey just leave my right tackle, leave me 630 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: right tackle. But then once the Texans did, it's like 631 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: everybody quit talking about it because he's now in trance. 632 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: But I think that's gonna make him that much better 633 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: a player. No, by the way, you have arguably the 634 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: best left tackle in the league over on the other side, 635 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: and Laromy Tunsel, who I think will fit this offense 636 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: handy glove. 637 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: Well, you just said something there that's really important. Take 638 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: all the personnel out of it, this offense, this scheme 639 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 6: that you just kind of mentioned. Yeah, how much does 640 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 6: it help offensive lineman, especially ones who have been playing 641 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 6: in the offense that we've seen around here for the 642 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 6: last eight nine years. 643 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I think it helps a lot. 644 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: I think the addition of Chris Strausser is the offensive 645 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: line coach, is gonna help a lot. So you add 646 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: in all of that, then you throw in the three 647 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: things in particular that I talked about amongst others. You 648 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: look at it and Demico is probably he's probably saying that, 649 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: and you know, if he were talking to you and now, 650 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: he probably said the same thing. Hey, look this is 651 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: where it was Hey, we had Chris Strausser's offensive line coach. 652 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Now we've added. 653 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: We now have a scheme that is a little bit 654 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: more offensive friendly potentially. It's been very successful with offensive 655 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: linemen that you know, like Daniel Brunskill. 656 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: You know, they took Spencer. 657 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Buford last year who's from Utsa, played tackle his whole 658 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: career at UTSA. They draft him in the fourth round, 659 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: stuck him in a guard, played guard, started at guard 660 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: the whole year. 661 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: So that was part Burford was. He should have been 662 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: drafted a little bit higher. 663 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: But they took a guy that was a tackle, had 664 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: never played guard, stuck him in a guard, and the 665 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: machine kept running. And that's what you hope you can 666 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: get to because you're gonna have changes on the offensive 667 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: line going forward. But if you're preaching a consistent message 668 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: in the scheme stays relatively consistent, the coaching remains consistent, 669 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: then everything gets better. If all that stays the same, 670 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: then everything gets gets better. And at that point, once 671 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: everything gets better, than all that raises its game up too. 672 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: So I when I heard Demiko say that, I was 673 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: in the back kind of nodding like, yeah, I think 674 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: he's right. 675 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: I think he's right about that. 676 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: I do think the offensive line could be one of 677 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: the better units on the team. So I ask you, 678 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: this is it the best unit right now on paper 679 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: on the team. 680 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: What is it? 681 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 6: If it's not the offensive line, I think it's the secondary. 682 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 6: I think it's the defensive backfield. I think I agree 683 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 6: it's either one two or two to one one of 684 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 6: those two, because you've got the third overall pick and 685 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 6: Derek Stingley out at one cornerback spot, and I think 686 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 6: we saw really good things from him as a rookie. 687 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: I think he gets better in year two, no matter 688 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 6: the defensive scheme he's in. And I think because he's 689 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 6: in this defensive scheme, he's gonna be even better right 690 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 6: then maybe he was in the other one. Then you've 691 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 6: got to really sight above average veteran and Steven Nelson 692 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 6: out at the other corner. You still have Desmond King, 693 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 6: you still have Tavia Thomas who did really really nice 694 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 6: things both inside and outside last year. And then you 695 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 6: add a guy like Shaquille Griffin who's got bona fides, he's. 696 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 5: Got pelts on the walls. Absolutely, I mean that's a 697 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: really really good addition. 698 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 6: Really underrated edition and then you've got a developing Jalen Petrie, 699 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 6: who was lights out your leader on defense in twenty 700 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 6: twenty two, and he's getting better and he's going to 701 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 6: be put in a new position to flourish. 702 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 5: And then you add a guy like Jimmy Ward. 703 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, pumped scording, you know, and he's a leader and 704 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 6: he's doing all that. I mean, he can play so 705 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 6: many different positions, but he's gonna play free safety here 706 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 6: or safety here. Yeah, And I just I'm really, I'm 707 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 6: really excited about that secondary. I really think that that's 708 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 6: going to be a strength of the team. And that's 709 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 6: a good thing. That's a good thing. Now I'll ask 710 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 6: you this, I'll flip the tables back on you. 711 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh, hit that ball back over the net. 712 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: If another position group winds up at the end of 713 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 6: the season being better than those two, which position group 714 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 6: do you think that would be? 715 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: Running back? 716 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, that's a fair one. 717 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: Running back, because I think the top I think the 718 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't like the starters in the offseason 719 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, but especially running back because 720 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: you do have changes, you know, personnel changes and third 721 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: down backs and all that kind of stuff. But between 722 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: Damian Pierce and Devin Singletary not obviously health permitting for 723 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: all of this. But Damian Pierce and Devin Singletary are 724 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: different from one another. And if they're both healthy and 725 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: ones getting rest while the other ones going out in 726 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: their tote and rock or out on the field, you're 727 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: gonna keep them fresh throughout games and that'll help you 728 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 2: keep them fresh throughout the season. Now, with running backs, 729 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: we know guys are gonna get banged up. I mean 730 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: you're carrying, you know, you're getting you know how many 731 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: of our touches in a year. But you know, say 732 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: between them, I don't know. Let's say Damien gets, I 733 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: don't know. Let's say, uh, three hundred, Devin gets. Oh, 734 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: this is say three hundred two hundred, I don't know. 735 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: Let's let's go with that. That's a lot of touches 736 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: amongst backs. But I think that's what you're gonna get 737 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: out of these two. But I think beyond that, somebody's 738 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: coming out of that group of Dargalle, Jared Doakes, Exavion Vallet. 739 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: Somebody's coming out of that group to either be hey, 740 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: one of these guys got hurt. You got to step 741 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: in that role or Hey, we just really love running 742 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: the football and we want to give six to eight 743 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: carries to a third back, kind of like San Francisco 744 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: would do. San Francisco would roll out Elijah Mitchell and 745 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: then they'd put Jeff Wilson in, and then they would 746 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: put uh Rowheem Moster in the game. They'd all get carries, 747 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden the fourth quarter they 748 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: go with the hot hand. Sometimes it was Moster sometimes, 749 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: but they would they would play three backs. So I 750 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: got a feeling that all of those backs, Mike Boone 751 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: being another one in that group, I think one of 752 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: those other backs emerges as a pretty someone you feel 753 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: confident about behind Singletary and Peers. 754 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 6: So you're saying kind of along the lines of twenty 755 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 6: eleven where you had Arion Foster Ben Tate, right, and. 756 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 5: Is it Derek Ward in eleven? 757 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: I think it was Derek Ward eleven, Yes. 758 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 6: And in the next year you had that same do 759 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 6: at the top, but swap out Ward with Justin First 760 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 6: said who would wind up winning a rushing title a 761 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 6: couple years la. 762 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say that's the San 763 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: Francisco Shanahan. You know, Mike Shanahan before him, sort of thing. 764 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: But I think if you want to run the football 765 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: it the math works. The math tells you, yeah, you're 766 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: gonna run it. You want to, You want to run it, 767 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: so you want to run it twenty times in a 768 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: game seventeen games has three hundred and forty carries. Now 769 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: backs when they get three hundred carries and three hundred 770 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: I mean just say three hundred carries because you're gonna 771 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: get touches in other ways too. I mean a back 772 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: getting three hundred carries that just can't have. But if 773 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: you got a back, let's say Dan let's just take 774 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: that twenty carries a game. Seventeen games, three hundred and 775 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 2: forty carries. Let's say Damien catches forty passes. If you 776 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: cut that number to say he carries it two hundred 777 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: and fifty times, then you give him another fifty catches. 778 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: That's three hundred touches. Well, that's that's a ton. So 779 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: where are the other carriers gonna go? Well, one of 780 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: those guys gets banged up, I'd like to see it 781 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: go to Singletary because I think he's shown that he 782 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 2: can handle that load. 783 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: But I think he can be a one two combination. 784 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: But there's gonna come a point in the year where 785 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: you're like, man, somebody's banged up from that that duo, 786 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 2: Pierce Singletay is banged up. Which guy steps into that void? 787 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 2: That's gonna be interesting watch to me. That third running 788 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: back job. 789 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 6: Tuesday at practice, it was steamy. It was in the eighties, 790 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 6: felt like in the nineties. And I look up and 791 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 6: Damian Pierce has on was it? Is it called a 792 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 6: backlova or balaklava, but basically as like a ninja mask 793 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 6: where all yeahs that cut out around his eyes right. 794 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 5: That fascinating to see. 795 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 6: And I hadn't seen it on a Houston Texan since 796 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 6: our good palai Antonio Smith used to sport that so well. 797 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 6: I wonder how much more we're gonna see of Damian 798 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 6: Pierce wearing the ninja hat. 799 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: I like it. 800 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: Keep wearing a ninja hat in the heat, though, why not? 801 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: Why not? 802 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 5: That's a real cavalier. 803 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: Why not? 804 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. 805 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I don't have 806 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: any issue with what guys, why I should I don't have. 807 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 5: An issue with it. 808 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 6: I'm just wondering how much longer will he do it, 809 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 6: and isn't it too hot? 810 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. 811 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 2: If you're gonna wear something with flair like that, yeah, 812 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: then you better be pretty good. You can't be out 813 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: there stinking up the joint wearing a bunch of towels 814 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: and wrapping up, you know, spatting up and doing all that. 815 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: Kind of stuff. 816 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna go out there and have bits of flair 817 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 2: on you, you better be a player. 818 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 5: And he's a player. 819 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: There are some that I can remember that we're not 820 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: players that like to wear their flair. 821 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: And again, let me be clear. 822 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: Flair's good if you're good, Flair not so good if you're. 823 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: Not so good. 824 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: So just it's a pretty simple formula as it pertains 825 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 2: to flair. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, 826 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: then go watch off his space. You know exactly what 827 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. What are pieces of flair for football? 828 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: Spat it up towels? I don't know what Damie was 829 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: wearing the other day. 830 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: It was like a Ninja masak or something. I don't know. 831 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 2: Any and all of that works as pieces of flair. 832 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: All right, let's go round the NFL quickly. When we 833 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: get back right here on a Wednesday edition of Texans 834 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 2: All Access. We got one final segment of this initiative, 835 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: Texas All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. 836 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: I am your host, John. 837 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 2: Harris Football on the side of the report for your 838 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: Houston Texans. Let's go around the NFL and talk about 839 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 2: calf injuries. Apparently in New Jersey Aaron Rodgers. Somebody put 840 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: out a picture showing Aaron Rodgers doing some pre practice 841 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: training exercises, and one of those is pulling the sled, 842 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: a little tiny sledge. You put it on your waist 843 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 2: and you carry it's got weight on it. And apparently 844 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers strained his calf doing those as somebody put 845 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: on Twitter. Eighteen years in Green Bay never did that. 846 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: He did it one day in New York, and well 847 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: there you go. 848 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: So it looks like he's gonna be okay. 849 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 2: So you if you're a Jets fan, but Aaron Rodgers 850 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: not so great. 851 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: Now have not heard an update on Alan Lazard. Al 852 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: Lazard left practice. 853 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 2: It sounded as if he was going to be okay, 854 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 2: but he left practice and apparently. 855 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: He got hit. 856 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: That's the right way of saying that he got hit 857 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: somewhere where. For guys, that's not very good, if you 858 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean. He got hit down south, and 859 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: of course that took him out of practice. So this 860 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: is the power of OTAs though, because those things hit 861 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: twitter al Lazard left practice, never came back, and everybody's like, 862 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 2: oh my god, Terry A. C. L he got Achilles, 863 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: what is it? Stranon hamstring? No, na, na, he got 864 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: hitting the Canadians. I mean, it's it's the power is 865 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: the power of OTAs, man. Everything that comes out of 866 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 2: OTAs is news. We are so craving for NFL news 867 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: that those two those two situations, I don't say blew up, 868 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: but they kind of took over the internet. And that's well, 869 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: it's fun at all, but still still sort of crazy. 870 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: There's still no conclusion to the Washington Commander's sale to 871 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: Josh Harris. Spring meetings took place up in Minneapolis, and 872 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: the owners decided on a number of things, including one 873 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: that I swear I was so mad I. 874 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: Forgot this one. 875 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: But it was decided that the NFL teams can go 876 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: back to a rule that they had in early two 877 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 2: thousands of having a third quarterback on the roster that 878 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: doesn't count against the forty six or forty eight game 879 00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 2: day roster. 880 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: It's an extra player to have. 881 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: Obviously, everybody saw what happened in the NFC Championship game, 882 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: and so if you have forty eight man roster, which 883 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: you can have on game days, if you have eight 884 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: offensive linemen, then you get a forty ninth player with 885 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: your third quarterback. I think that helps the quarterback the 886 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: Texans immenseally, to be honest, I think it really helps them. 887 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 2: Now the third quarterback can only come into a game 888 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 2: if there are injuries for the top two quarterbacks that day. 889 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: So that's definitely something to keep an eye on. But 890 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: interesting stuff coming out of the meetings. But what did 891 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: not come out of the meetings was a sale to 892 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: the commander. 893 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: So there you have it. 894 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: There's the show. Appreciate you guys being here, Appreciate Mark 895 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: and Drew and all of you for listening. We'll see 896 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: next time. 897 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: It as always Go Texans.