1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: I know that the clock is sticking, and I know 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: that when we've last checked my my account was very low. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: This is my body and no one should tell me 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: what I can and cannot do with it. And I 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: think God is okay with it. The dream of parents, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: that is one of the biggest dreams that we all 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: all live for and work for. Hello everyone, and welcome 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: to another episode of Cheeks and Chill. I'm your host, 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: cheek Ease, and I hope you all had a wonderful weekend. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I am. I had a really good weekend. Actually, I relaxed. 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: I was in pjs, you know, just doing the thing, 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: being more of Jennet than cheek Eas, you know. But anyways, 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: today's episode is something very personal to me. It's a 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: topic that isn't really talked about, especially in the Latin culture. 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel it's kind of, I guess, frowned upon in 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: a way. I always use this word, but it's true, 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of taboo. So a couple of years ago, 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: I revealed my decision to freeze my eggs. It was 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: when I realized that I had assists in my left ovary. 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: I never knew it was there until one day I 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: woke up with a horrible pain. I felt like I 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: was going to die. It was like, I think, like 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: three in the morning, and I had my assistant and 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not one to go to the hospital. I I 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: can really really tolerate pain. So when I called her 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: and I said, I need you to take me to 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the hospital, she knew it was like serious. I had her, 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, running red lights and something. I don't recommend 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: you guys, but I was in so much pain that 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: I just I don't It was horrible. When I got 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: to the hospital, they said, well, you have assists. I 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: guess it turned over on itself. My ovary because the 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: cists was pretty big, and they just said, you can 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: leave it there, you can remove it. I decided to 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: leave it there, and then I went to a specialist 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: and this is how I met Dr Kadeer, and he 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: found out that I had endometriosis, something I didn't know. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: This is something I've never shared with anybody. I want 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: to share with you, guys, but I don't know if 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: this is one of the reasons why I have endometriosis. 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I had a miscarriage when I was nineteen. I've never 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: talked about it ever, and I obviously was afraid. I 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: was scared. I never told my mom, I never told anybody. 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know what was really happening. I knew I 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: was pregnant. I just didn't know how to tell my mom. 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it was a stress 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: I I just started bleeding and stuff started coming out 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: at chunks. It was really really crazy. Apparently I had 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: a miscarriage. I never went to the doctors to take 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: care of it, so they had to go in later 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: like a year later, actually not a out of your letter, 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: like six months, eight months later, and I went and 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: got a pop smere and they're like, you know what, 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: we need to clean up, Like I told them what 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: had happened, and they needed to go in there and 56 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: put me to sleep and basically clean up my uterus. 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: And I've always thought, is it because of that situation 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: that's what happened? And then I thought they had removed 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: my sis apparently back and grew back and they had 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: to remove it again because I don't know. I don't 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: know what happened. I don't know if it was a 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: new sis, if it was the same sis, I don't 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: know it was in the same ovary, so that was 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: also keeping me from freezing my eggs, because if you 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: inject too many hormones in your body, well, I was 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: just going to be feeding that one cis and it 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: was just going to get bigger and bigger and not 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: necessarily my eggs. So that's one thing that had me 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: just you know, I was a little hesitant about it. 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: Now I do wish I would have done it sooner. 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just something that especially as a woman 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: and everything that's in our food and in the air, 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I think of all these 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: things and I'm like, it has to affect our bodies. 75 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: So I think that the sooner you do it, the 76 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: better because it's just kind of like a backup plan. 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get pregnant naturally with my current 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: partner because right now I'm not on birth control. Right now, 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I am just not trying to get pregnant, but not 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: not trying to get pregnant, so I don't know what 81 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: that means. I'm just like, if it happens, and if 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: it's meant to be, then that's what's going to happen. 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: And I just want to have my eggs just in case. 84 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I can't have the baby, I can't get pregnant on 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: my own, or I don't know, maybe I want to 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: get a surrogate. I've thought about that before. I've also 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: thought about my siblings. I know this is weird, but 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: I've thought about like Johnny, you know, if he wants 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: to have a baby with his partner. I know it 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: sounds weird, but I'm like, hey, I'm his sister. You know. 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: I've thought about so many different things. You guys, I 92 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: just feel like it's it's a good backup plan just 93 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: in case I'm not able to get pregnant and I 94 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: would do it on my own or with a partner. 95 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I think right now, I am not even thinking about 96 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: getting pregnant necessarily, like at this moment, but I just 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: know that time is ticking and I have to get 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: it done. And I don't want to feel like, damn, 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: I should have done it, you know, would have, could have, 100 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: should have? You know, I kind of want to be like, Okay, 101 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: I have it. That pressure is kind of off, and 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I can kind of just kill a little bit, travel 103 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more and and do me. You know, 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: I just want to do it sooner rather than later. 105 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: I was talking about it on the reality show, and 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: I met a doctor through the reality shows. That's one 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: of the great things. Actually, there's a lot of really 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: good things about the reality show, and I want to 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: think that and be grateful for those moments, because even 110 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: though it was a lot of hard work and sometimes 111 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: it did bring a little bit of drama in our life, 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: I got to spend a lot of time with my family, 113 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: with my friends, and I also got to meet really 114 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: cool people like the person that I'm going to speak 115 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: to today, which is actually my doctor, Dr Gooder. And 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people ask me, did you already freeze 117 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: your eggs? Cheekys. No, I have not, and I know 118 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: he's very upset with me about it. He texted me 119 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: here and there He's like, when are we going to 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: do this? Cheeks? You know it is time Before we 121 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: get further into the conversation, I want to welcome Dr Gooder. Hello, 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Dr Gooder? How are you? He's here with me? Hello? 123 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Of course, I 124 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: wish you guys could see him. He has the best 125 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: eyebrows in the world at like your hair could. By 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: the way, you thank you very much so, Dr Deer. 127 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: I know that is something that I need to do 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. When do you recommend Dr Deer 129 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: to freeze your eggs? So, first of all, I want 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: to address something that you said. You're not the only 131 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: woman that feels like this. It's a big step for 132 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: people to take, and I usually like to tell people 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: just do it and be done with it, because I 134 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: guarantee you afterwards you're going to realize that this was 135 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: so much easier than you ever thought. It is a 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: quick ten to twelve day process of little injections that 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: we teach you how to administer in your belly, and 138 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: if you can't do it yourself, we are happy to 139 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: help you do them, and we can come into the 140 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: office every day and help you do them. We can 141 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: even send someone to your home and do them. But 142 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: there's a couple of different things involved. The sooner and 143 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: the younger you do this, the better. So everyone's peak 144 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: fertility is probably between the ages of like twenty and 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven. That is your peak fertility as a female, 146 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: and after that time it just begins to decline. Now, 147 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: there are other are things that can affect your fertility 148 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: as well. For example, endometriosis, PCOS and the number one 149 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: thing that affects you eggs is aging. And one of 150 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: the things that you also talked about. I think it's 151 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: very sensitive and should be addressed, is because in the 152 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Latin culture, because so many people do have kids at 153 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: a younger age, this is something that maybe looked as 154 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: taboo or frowned upon or making you less of a woman, 155 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: but it's not. There are many many Latin women patients 156 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: of mind, and to be honest, from all cultures and 157 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: backgrounds that are coming to my office that have become 158 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: very successful businesswomen, accomplished in many different areas of the 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: world and in the world of business, and who are 160 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: just not ready to have a child. And there is 161 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: no reason why you should be giving up the dream 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: of parenthood just so you can go forward with having 163 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: a kid at the wrong time in your life. And 164 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: that's what this allows you to do. It allows you 165 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: to preserve your fertility and your right to make your 166 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: decision about when it's right for you to have a child. See. 167 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. When I first started this process, 168 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: I did hear it a lot, even like on media, 169 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Oh she can't have kids, she's in other words broken, 170 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, And it's not that it's just it's a 171 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: choice of mine because I wasn't necessarily ready to have children, 172 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, this is a way of taking 173 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: the pressure off. And I got things like it's going 174 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: against God's will. I feel that it is my choice. 175 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: It's my body. I'm very, very pro choice in a 176 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of things. So this is something that this is 177 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: my body and no one should tell me what I 178 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: can and cannot do with it. And I think God 179 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: is okay with it. Dr Gader exists for a reason. 180 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: God gave us this technology. I think if it's against 181 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: someone's morals, religious thoughts, beliefs in this world, and they 182 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't do it. But for many people who are out 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: there that they believe in science, and they believe in technology, 184 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and they believe in the field of medicine and how 185 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: amazing we've become and how advanced we are. My field 186 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: of medicine has only existed for thirty years. I mean, 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: that's it. And then it's only been in the last 188 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: I want to say, ten fifteen years that we've become 189 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: really good at it. And I want to say in 190 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: the egg freezing world, it's only been around for about 191 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: ten years. So We've only gotten really good at it, 192 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: i'd say in the last maybe a few years, so 193 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: we're very good at it now. There's been other reality 194 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: TV show stars who came and froze their eggs at 195 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: the age of forty four and came back and had 196 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: those kids at the age of forty six and delivered 197 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: at forty seven and did amazing And I'm sure most 198 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: people know who I'm talking about, But I think it's 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: a very personal decision. I do not think it's fair 200 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: for anyone to judge if it's God's choice or God 201 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: is allowing, or God looks down in your eyes. If 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the person believes that it's against their religious beliefs, then 203 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't promote that for them. But for most people, 204 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: I think science is on their side, and the dream 205 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: of parenthood is one of the biggest dreams that we 206 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: all all live for and work for. And I don't 207 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: believe it's someone's position to kind of be negative about 208 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: it against someone else's. I agree. I agree. I'm all 209 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: about live and let live. Whatever you want to do, 210 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: I respect it. Whatever I want to do, you should 211 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: respect it, you know. And it's not even because of 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: what they've said or what my family may think, or 213 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: some of my family should. I say, I haven't done it. 214 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: It's just has been one thing or another. But I 215 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: know that the clock is sticking, and I know that 216 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: when we've last checked my my account was very low. 217 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: So I guess in a way, I'm a little afraid 218 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: of going and getting all the tests done again, and 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: then what if I they're even lower, which I'm sure 220 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: is going to happen, because, like you said, it's age 221 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: when is too late. There are a lot of clinics 222 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: at the age of like forty close their doors. Some 223 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: clinics close their doors at the age of forty two, 224 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: some clinics at the age of forty four. We don't 225 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: close our doors. Every single patient is their own human being, 226 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: and we like to assess and have discussions. So I've 227 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: had discussions with patients saying that listen, you may make 228 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: very few eggs. But then again, I have had people 229 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: make very few eggs and be successful and do incredibly 230 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: well with the whole journey and the process. So would 231 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: I tell my little sister, oh, you're only going to 232 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: make one or two or three eggs, just don't do it. 233 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I would say absolutely the opposite. One egg on ice 234 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: is better than no eggs on ice. And I think 235 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: that keeping yourself in the game, keeping whatever your body 236 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: is able to help you produce, and keeping it there 237 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: for your future at least keeps a door open. Even 238 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, you will know that you did 239 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: every single thing you could, and we have planned b 240 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: there's always the use of other people's eggs and egg 241 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: donation and things like that. But you're a perfect, perfect 242 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: example of the busy young woman in her thirties who 243 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have the time to do this, a perfect example 244 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: for someone who is a little scared of doing it 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: because no one walks in is excited about this. But 246 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: it's one of those things in life where we do 247 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: it and we need to move on. I tell everyone 248 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the best piece of advice I can give you to 249 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: freeze your eggs is start it, do it, and be 250 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: done with it, because once you start, a month later, 251 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: you're going to bed at night saying, wow, I'm so happy. 252 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: Now my eggs are on the freezers at Dr Gooder's office. 253 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: He's doing all the babysitting, he's doing all the work now, 254 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: and I can go to bed at night knowing that 255 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: I did what I needed to do. And if you 256 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: needed to do it more than once, then people have 257 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: done it more than once. I had one patient that 258 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: did it five times. She said to me, Dr Gadeer, 259 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: I'm going to have my four kids on my timeline 260 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: and I'm going to do everything that I can to 261 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: promote that and to keep my doors open. And she 262 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: did it. She did it five times and she had 263 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: over fifty eggs by the time she was done. Wow, 264 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, well, I'm just gonna pray that 265 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: I have like at least five. I think I'm gonna 266 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: have more than that. I'm just I'm gonna be positive. Well, 267 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned right now it takes ten to twelve days. 268 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: Can you explain the process. So yeah, let's go through 269 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: the process, because I think it's really important for a 270 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: young woman who's out there. First of all, I want 271 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: everyone to check their medical insurance, call HR at their 272 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: office and find out if they have coverage. The saddest 273 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: thing I'm noticing, okay, there are people that have coverage 274 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: and don't even know they have coverage for egg freezing 275 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: and for fertility treatment. That is the saddest thing ever 276 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: for me. So all of the big everyone who works 277 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: at Disneyland, at Disney, Netflix, Apple, Google, Snapchat, any of 278 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: the big tech companies. They all have the most amazing 279 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: coverage that there is now. There are a lot of 280 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: other companies, large companies, law firms, lots of these places. 281 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: They have this amazing coverage that people just don't even 282 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: know what their coverage is. So I don't know about 283 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: your personal employer, but that's the first thing I would do. 284 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: If you have the coverage, take advantage of it. Freeze 285 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: your eggs, take advantage of it. If you don't have 286 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: any coverage, don't be scared because we have financing options. 287 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: So first of all, we put together one of the 288 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: best specials that exists in the world of fertility because 289 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: we're a large clinic and we have the opportunity if 290 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: we want to give back and help people. So we've 291 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: decided for two thousand and twenty two to be giving 292 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: back a lot. So we are going to be opening 293 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: the doors and giving the opportunity. Um if anyone looks 294 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: at my social media channel, which is the Doctor's Shaheen 295 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Gooder channel on Instagram, the specials are popping up left 296 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: and right. Our clinic also s c R C IVF. 297 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: The specials are popping up there as well. We have 298 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: webinars that people can attend, and at the end of 299 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: the webinar they're able to do their consultation for a 300 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: much lower price by doing so. But if with all 301 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: of that you still have trouble, we have options for 302 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: financing that help you get this too, as low as 303 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: like a hundred and sixty seventy dollars. What is the 304 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: cost the class can range. When we do our specials, 305 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: they're in the six thousand plus six thousands something range 306 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: um and when there's no specials there are in the 307 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: eight thousands something range. But with the financing options, we're 308 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: able to help people get it as low as in 309 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: the one and something dollars a month. Now, it varies, 310 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: it varies on your credit, it varies on what you're doing, 311 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: it varies on how many cycles you sign up for, 312 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: but it's there so financially, I think is the number 313 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: one reason people fear this process. Once we have set 314 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: up a consultation and we go over everything in someone's 315 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: health and we go over their menstrual cycle, what their 316 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: goal is. If someone tells me they want to have 317 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: four kids versus one kid, I think it's a little 318 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: different how many eggs they need to have frozen for 319 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: the future. If someone is twenty nine about to be 320 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: thirty and they're ready to go the second day turn thirty, 321 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: it's a little different than someone who's like thirty nine 322 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: about to be forty. So these are all things that 323 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: I need to take into consideration when making an overall 324 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: plan for someone. And I think it's really important that 325 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: we're on the same page. So after the initial consultation 326 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: and this these days, it's super easy. We do them 327 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: by phone. You don't have to leave your home, you 328 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: don't have to leave work, You could do them from 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: wherever you want. And I've noticed that people are a 330 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: lot more comfortable, and I've noticed that people are a 331 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: lot more open with me, and they are much more 332 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: just relaxed doing these consultations on the phone, rather than 333 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: coming to my office in l A, sitting in my 334 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: waiting room, coming and sitting here with me, which would 335 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: give some people a lot of anxiety. So with that 336 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: being said, we've made that as easy as possible. When 337 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: the time comes, and it always happens with your period, 338 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: So people call us on the first day of their period, 339 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: on day two, three, or four of their cycle. We 340 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: generally set them up to come in and do a 341 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: quick ultrasound of their ovaries. It's a vaginal ultrasound that 342 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: looks at the ovary and tells me how youthful, how young, 343 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: and how healthy those ovaries look, and then we put 344 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: them on a birth control pill to stop their natural 345 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: ovulation cycle. Now, if you are already on birth control 346 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: pill and have been on it for a while, we 347 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: usually recommend for people to go off their birth control 348 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: for a month or two before so their natural hormones 349 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: just come back to life and are doing really really well. 350 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: So that's a really important thing for us to do 351 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: um and we kind of do that really quickly, and 352 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: once we have people back coming back to normal, we 353 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: are ready to start. So after about ten to fifteen 354 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: days of birth control, we teach you how to give 355 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: yourself these injections that last for about ten to twelve days. 356 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: They're tiny, tiny little needs. Some people don't even feel them. 357 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Like we get phone calls all the time, like I'm 358 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: so sorry to my nurses. You know, they say, I 359 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm getting the injection, Like I don't 360 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: even feel it. But we see that their eggs are growing, 361 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and we see that their estrogen levels are going up, 362 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: so we know that they are doing well, and they're 363 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: doing they are growing, so they're very small. During those 364 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: ten to twelve days of injections, we usually have people 365 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: come in about three or four times for ultrasounds and 366 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: blood tests to make sure that everything is growing and 367 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: everything is coming along really well. And then towards the 368 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: end of the ten to twelve days, we usually say, 369 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: you know what, you're ready to have your eggs come out. 370 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: We bring patients to our surgery center, which is right 371 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: here in our office. You've been there before. You're in 372 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: there for about an hour, hour and a half. The 373 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: actual procedure is under a light an aesthetic that my 374 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: anesthesiologist gives. You fall asleep, you wake up, and it's 375 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: all done. It takes about three to five minutes for 376 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: the eggs to come out. It's a special little needle 377 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: that goes at the tip of an ultrasound machine. The 378 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: eggs get what we call retrieved, and then those eggs 379 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: then go off to the ib F laboratory and all 380 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: of the eggs that are mature get frozen to be used. 381 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: Whenever you're ready to use them in the future. So 382 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: quote unquote healthy, right, because there are some that are 383 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: come out that probably are not usable. Is that correct. 384 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: So the only thing we're able to check is if 385 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the egg is mature or immature. Now, if you come 386 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: in with a partner and say, this is my partner, 387 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: we want to make embryos, that's when the egg and 388 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: the sperm are put together. When we put the egg 389 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: in this them together, then we watch the embryo grow 390 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: for a week. Whatever embryo makes it to the full 391 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: grown stage at that point, then we are able to 392 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: do a little biopsy, freeze the embryo, and I can 393 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: tell you a week later if the embryo is genetically 394 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: normal or genetically abnormal. That's completely different than the egg. 395 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: The egg I can only tell you is mature. Let's 396 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: say you come back with someone with great sperm a 397 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: few years later, there's a good chance you're gonna make 398 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: a really good embryo. Let's say you come back with 399 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: someone who has really poor sperm in the future. I 400 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you're not going to make as many 401 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: good embryos later. So I can't tell you if your 402 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: egg is gonna be giving you a beautiful, healthy child 403 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: or not until the future when you make the embryo. 404 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: I have some women to tell me. I know I'm 405 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: going to have a kid, and I'm not going to 406 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: be getting married or having a husband. I want to 407 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: use donor sperm. So we use donor sperm and they 408 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: know the result now. But for people that are waiting 409 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: for Mr Wright and I have my eye look an 410 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: everywhere for Mr. Write. For some people, um, I think 411 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: that the best smartest thing to do is freezing the 412 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: egg and that's when you get to use it later 413 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: on in the future. Okay, So within those ten to 414 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: twelve days when you're injecting yourself, are you bloated? Do 415 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: you are you uncomfortable? What's the experience? That's a really 416 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: really good question. So during those ten to twelve days, 417 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: you do get a little bloated. So your ovaries are 418 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: usually small. They're the size of like two little apricots 419 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: or two little walnuts, or whenever you want to call them. 420 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: As these different little eggs grow, they begin to grow, grow, grow, grow, 421 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: grow in an ideal, great world. If you've responded and 422 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: done really well, your two little apricots become two huge grapefruits, 423 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: all with eggs growing around them. Each one is called 424 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: a little follicle. If you have too grapefruits squeezed into 425 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: your belly, you are going to have a sensation of 426 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: feeling full and bloated. And after your eggs come out, 427 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: it takes about a good solid week before those ovaries 428 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: start shrinking back getting to be the small little walnuts 429 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and apricots again, so you're going to have that sensation. 430 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: We also tell people after like the third or fourth 431 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: or fifth day of injections, once they start to feel 432 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: little bloated, to actually not exercise and not have intercourse 433 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: because as your ovary gets bigger, if you decide to 434 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: do a spinning class, you have a chance of twisting 435 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: that over and that could be a disaster called variant torsion. 436 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: It's painful and it's not fun, and it's a life 437 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: threatening emergency where we have to untwist your ovary and 438 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: make sure that it didn't get irreversibly damaged and has 439 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: to be removed. So we tell people to kind of 440 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: take it easy for a week, and also the week 441 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: after their eggs come out, we tell people to take 442 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: it easy for another week. Okay, good to know that 443 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: was gonna be my next question now now that I 444 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: know that, because I'm asking for myself to you guys, 445 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: because I kind of forgot. It's been a while since 446 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: I have gone to see Dr Dear, but I'm I'm 447 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: going to do it next month. I already told him. 448 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: He probably doesn't believe me, but I'm gonna have to show. Okay, guys, 449 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: I just want everyone has to keep this young woman accountable. 450 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: She has made this promise to me multiple times, and 451 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: I cannot beyond this earth and not free because one 452 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: day we are going to be very upset. So I 453 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: need everyone to send her message and show her love 454 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: and support. And I gotta tell you something. We have 455 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: this unbelievable special. It was my idea and my marketing 456 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: department and all my partners loved it. We have a 457 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: special that if you freeze your eggs with another friend 458 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: of yours, you both get a special discount. If you 459 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: freeze your eggs with two other friends, all three of 460 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: you get an amazing discount. We did this because when 461 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: you're coming in here with a man to do this, 462 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: you have each other. You go home, you talk about it. 463 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: You're there for each other. You have someone by your side. 464 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: When you're doing this as a single female, people feel 465 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: very very vulnerable and alone exactly. And as much as 466 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: I care about you and love you, I'm not going 467 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: home and I can't be there at night when you're like, 468 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I doing? And I'm freaking out? Well, 469 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: because it is an emotional process. It is it's a 470 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: very emotional process to be reassessing everything about your life. 471 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Because some women patient somewhere like Dr Goodear, this is 472 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: so depressing for me. I thought at thirty five, I'm 473 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna have three kids and a husband. Instead I'm a lawyer. 474 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: But still I don't know. So whatever it may be, 475 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: whatever it, maybe everyone has their own story. And I 476 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: realized once I had friends come in together to do it, 477 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: and I saw, wow, every time they come in, they 478 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: come in together. Their eg retrievals fell within one day 479 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: of each other. One drove one that day and then 480 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: the other one drove her the other day. They were 481 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: there for each other and it was so amazing. I 482 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: loved the idea that you can do this with your 483 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: best friend, a friend, a cousin, someone. So if you 484 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: could think of someone by next month, I think it 485 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: would be a great idea if you had someone to 486 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: do it with. If not, we're going to be there. 487 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: My team is amazing. They hold your hand. No one's 488 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: going to leave, anyone be a loan. My team is 489 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: amazing and we are there for you. Honestly, you do 490 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: have an amazing team. They're always so nice, so patient 491 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: with me, because again, I've been there so many times. 492 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: You guys, this has been a very hard decision for me, 493 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: especially because you get bloated and your emotional. I'm already 494 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cancer. You guys a very emotional So I 495 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: know that I have to inject hormones, but I know 496 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: it's for a good cause. It's just I'm like, when 497 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: is the right time? So now I'm like, okay, next month, 498 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have more time. I already told him I 499 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: got to do it because I feel young. But you 500 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: know what, my ovaries are saying something else. So anyways, 501 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: I love that special that you guys have. I think 502 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: I have someone already here that they you know, sent 503 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: me a message that they want to do it with me. 504 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: So that's a great deal. Okay, already, that's fantastic. Yeah, 505 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: I swear, Yeah, she just told me. She's like, I'll 506 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: do it with you, cheeks. I don't know if he 507 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: wants me to, like, you know, say her name, so 508 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: I'd rather not. But anyways, so now that we're talking 509 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: about all of this, I'm assuming it's different for every woman. 510 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: During the process. You can either be you know, moody 511 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: and stuff that that's common. So I will be very honest. 512 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I've seen it all. I've had people come and do this. Usually, 513 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: these injections make you feel really good. They make you 514 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: feel rather energetic. Your estrogen levels are going up, so 515 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: you feel great. Okay. Sometimes afterwards, when they come down, 516 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: as estrogen comes down, some people do get a little emotional. Um. 517 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: I have seen people get emotional during the process because 518 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: it brought too much of their life right in front 519 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: of them and they had to address things that they 520 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: did and decisions that they made. But with all of 521 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: that being said, it's okay everyone. Everything in this world 522 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: that is good for you is not easy, okay. Becoming successful, 523 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: becoming a great parent, freezing and thinking for the future. 524 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: All of the things in the world that are challenging 525 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: and important for us our challenges and those are not 526 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: the easiest things in life. But we have to conquer them, 527 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: and we have to know that two weeks from now, 528 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: I will be done. I'm going to go to bed 529 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: knowing my eggs are frozen. And by the way, just 530 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: a couple of myths that we have to address. When 531 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: you freeze your eggs, we are not taking all of 532 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: your eggs out of your body. It's only the eggs 533 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: that we're gonna die off. Anyways, during that one ovulation, 534 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: about a thousand eggs die off. So the more fertile 535 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: you are, the more of those thousand we can try 536 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: to get to keep and freeze or what we call recruit, 537 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: and the less fertile you are, the less of those 538 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: we can get. So you are not going to get 539 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: an earlier menopause. You are not going to get all 540 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: your eggs taken out. You are not going to become crazy. 541 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: You were not going to be gaining weight. You may 542 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: gain a little fluid because your ovaries have fluid in them, 543 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: but it will go down if you don't eat ravenous lee. 544 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: You're not going to get overweight. Okay, So these are 545 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: all the major myths that people are thinking about, and 546 00:26:52,520 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: unfortunately most of them are just not true. Okay, Now 547 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: do you recommend therapy sessions during this time? You know, Um, 548 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: we have an in house acupuncturist. She is so amazing, 549 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: and I have a couple of other acupuncturists in town 550 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: that I adore. First of all, acupuncture helps fertility, it 551 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: helps you overas respond really nicely. They are so calm, 552 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: cool and collected. They've almost become like therapists for my patients. Now, 553 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: if you have a therapist that you talk to regularly, 554 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: absolutely you should tell them from beforehand I'm about to 555 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: do this, I made need to talk to you. You 556 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: should probably schedule something during that time period just to 557 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: have them there at your side. I just think it's very, 558 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: very important to have support, whether it's a family member, 559 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: whether it's a friend, whether it's your doctor and their team. 560 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: You know, you're not going to the right doctor if 561 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: they don't have a great support system there that you 562 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: could pick up the phone and talk to. I hear 563 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: my nurses outside of my door talking to my patients, 564 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: and I just thank God odd they are on my 565 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: team because they are so lovely and so caring, and 566 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: my patients absolutely love them. And just for people to know, 567 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: you know, every time we talk, I have people that 568 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: listen and you're such a beautiful voice that teaches people, 569 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: which I love about you. I've had people from around 570 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: the country reach out to me that listen to you 571 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: and watch you and learn from you. We've had people 572 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: from Miami, New York, and Texas all do consults by phone. 573 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: We start them with their injections, and there are local 574 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: towns with a local fertility doctor, and just before the procedure, 575 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: we have them fly in, get their eggs out, put 576 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: them in our state of the art lab here, which 577 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: is one of the best in the country, and then 578 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: they are good to go back and they are sitting 579 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: here waiting for them, and if not, I try to 580 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: find someone in their hometown. Okay, See, this is why 581 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: I love dr do you guys. He's so informative, he's 582 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: so patient. And I'm telling you because again, I ask 583 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. I asked the same questions over 584 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: and over, but I wanted you guys to hear it 585 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: from him. I have a question that they were asking. Okay, So, 586 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: once they're extracted, are eggs they are literally frozen right 587 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: there there in the fridge. There they're somewhere where you 588 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: you storem right. We have a very very private safe 589 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: location in my building. It has seismic control, so things 590 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: are tied down so earthquakes don't do anything. Um. All 591 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: of the tanks are checked every single day by two 592 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: of my embryologists that go into a walkthrough. They're all 593 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: on cameras, they are all on alarms. They have backup 594 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: generators in case the electricity goes out. So we do 595 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: every single thing to keep your eggs frozen in time. 596 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: So they get frozen and they become almost like a glass. Okay, 597 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: it's like a glass like state. It's called vitrification. And 598 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: this is how fast they get frozen and one second. Okay, 599 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: that's it's called fast freezing. Okay. Vitrification is the fastest, 600 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: the newest and most advanced technique to freeze an egg. 601 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: And that's how we do them in my office. Okay. 602 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: And once we're ready, then you take them out and 603 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: you insert them right with the sperm of your choice. Once, yes, 604 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 1: once you are ready, we thought, okay, and then we 605 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: inseminate them with spurs, we create embryos. We allow the 606 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 1: embryos to grow in our incubators, and then they are 607 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: biopsied and frozen, and the biopsies that one tiny little 608 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: cell off the edge of it goes out for genetic testing, 609 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: and then we can tell you which one of your 610 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: embryos are genetically normal or abnormal, and all the normal 611 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: ones we also can tell you what their genders were 612 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: if you want, you want to know. Okay, nice, Okay. 613 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: So these eggs can be inserted in either in yourself 614 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: or also you can have a surrogate. Correct. Either way, 615 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: the procedure is the same. Correct, Yes, you can. Awesome. 616 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: Now I just have one question before you go. Mr 617 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Deer or Dr Deer. Do you think that maybe miscarriages 618 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: or abortions that affects your fertility? So yes, and no, 619 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: if you've had miscarriages and they were taken care of well, 620 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: like if you had miscarriages, whether of like scraping the 621 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: inside of your uterus like horribly hard, and yes, it 622 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: could damage the lining of your uterus and it may 623 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: be hard to implant. But I've had patients have seven 624 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: miscarriages and they were all done correctly and softly and 625 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: gently and in a smart doctor's office, and nothing ever 626 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: happened to her uterus, and she carried a beautiful pregnancy 627 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: when she was ready. So this carriage is I think 628 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: are nothing can be worried about abortions as well. If 629 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: they're done correctly, they really shouldn't be affecting things in 630 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: the long run. So all the things that have to 631 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: do with your overall fertility should not be affecting the 632 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: freezing of the eggs. Okay. So neither of those two 633 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: have anything to do with how many eggs you have 634 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: or it just happened. It's just age, really right, or 635 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: things that you eat or anything like that. Does that 636 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: affect No, no, no, I have some of this is 637 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: l A, guys, this is LA. We have some of 638 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: the healthiest woman in the entire country who do yoga 639 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: and pilates, are vegetarian and eat healthy and watch their 640 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: way come in and their thirty nine years old old 641 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: and suddenly I have to tell them that their fertility 642 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: is very, very low and there's absolutely nothing we can 643 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: do about it. So okay, So sadly there's not much 644 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: you can do. Okay, Dr Gadeer, I know you gotta go, 645 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: and I just want to say thank you again, thank 646 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: you for taking the time to explain this, for being 647 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: so wonderful you and your staff are great. I want 648 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: you to let people know where they can find you. 649 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: If there's a number of website, anyone that's listening to 650 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: us that wants to do this, absolutely well, let everybody 651 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: know right now so I can be followed at Dr 652 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: Shaheen Gadeer on Instagram. UM, I have my own podcast 653 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: now called The Fertile Life, and thank you so much. 654 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: I am beyond excited to have you on as a 655 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: guest where we get to delve into this even deeper 656 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: and learn a little bit more about your life. It's 657 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: not only about fertility. It's about some really amazing guests 658 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: that I've had and sometimes I just do them alone 659 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: when I just talk about a topic like end demetriosis 660 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: or PCOS. So the Fertile Life podcast is there. Southern 661 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: California Reproductive Center is my center where in the heart 662 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. We have an office in Pasadena and 663 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: office in Ventura County, in an office in Santa Barbara. 664 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: So we're kind of all over Southern California, and we 665 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: are doing consults around the entire country. So if those 666 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: things will definitely help everyone find me wherever they go, yes, yes, 667 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: you guys, and I will be sharing more information on 668 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: my Instagram as well. The good thing is you guys 669 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: can listen to the podcast over and over. If you 670 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: guys miss anything, and if you have any other questions, 671 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: DM me you guys, I'm gonna let you go. Dr Deer, 672 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: thank you again, thank you for being so inspired by 673 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: the way. Thank you, thank you. Before we end this episode, 674 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: I want to just tell you, guys, live and let live. 675 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Just allow yourself to make your 676 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: own decisions. Don't let anyone else rule what you should 677 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: or shouldn't do. It's what are you meant to do? 678 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: What do you what do you want to do? If 679 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: you're not hurting anybody else, it's really no one else's business, 680 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: So you can keep it private. You can tell people 681 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: or not. It's your decision. It's a personal decision. It's 682 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: your body at the end of the day. And just 683 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: the way you shouldn't tell anyone else to do whatever 684 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: they want with their body, no one should tell you 685 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: what to do with yours. This is a production of 686 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Michael Tura podcast Network. Follow us 687 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Michael Dura Podcasts and follow me Cheeks. 688 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: That's c h i Q u I s. For more 689 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: podcasts from my Heart, visit the I Heart Radio app, 690 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.